archived-modding-development

[copper nacelle]

😩

[ember bloom]

F

S

M

[copper nacelle]

yes

[floral furnace]

is it located at the same scene 🅱ar🅱o🅱h is in?

[lapis pine]

[flat forum]

56

4 phantom markoths

add 4 phantom markoths outside the terrain

[solemn rivet]

papy

[river eagle]

what happend to your beautiful pfp gradow?

[solemn rivet]

wdym

this is garbodow

my new fursona

I believe it was ttacco who made it for me

[river eagle]

The master of photoshop has given you their blessing it seems

[solemn rivet]

I see you are a man of culture as well

how did you know it was photoshopped?

[warped sinew]

@copper nacelle the bindings mod i think is broken

well at least in the Ultimatum radiance fight it is, it just makes you invincible and you cant cast spells and you cant even pause the game

have to alt f4 to close the game haha

[cunning lagoon]

classic 56 mod

[flat forum]

Oh well

[compact sedge]

https://twitter.com/fckeveryword/status/1063318249415294977?s=21

Fuck Every Word 2.0 (@fckeveryword)

fuck redwing

Twitter

[floral furnace]

how does it feel to be at the very top

[compact sedge]

this is only gonna happen once in my life

[buoyant obsidian]

fuck redwing

there, it happen twice

[floral furnace]

753 no chill

[flat forum]

Hey

Why the hecc the RoomUpdate hook not work

[flat forum]

@solemn rivet come 'ere and help

The NewRoom/RoomUpdate hook seems broke

I'lltry again and hope it works this time

[compact sedge]

sushi guy ignored me

[hollow pier]

wow he's a modder

[young walrus]

modder focker

[buoyant obsidian]

that guy seems like a Terraria modder

am I wrong

[young walrus]

no, you're 753

[weary oyster]

i think it fucking works

[lapis pine]

soo what do you guys talk about here?

[flat forum]

modding the game

[buoyant obsidian]

shitposts

[lapis pine]

oh

is there someone working on a actual mod here?

[flat forum]

raises hand

[lapis pine]

what will it add?

[flat forum]

it adds nothing, just the way I contribute nothing to this world

it kills everything in Hallownest

and makes it a very sad and lionely place

except Elderbug

because he's sweet

[lapis pine]

and does nothing bad

[flat forum]

I'll try and add a bunch of dialogue to him where he urges you to go back down and explore

[lapis pine]

looks interesting

[flat forum]

Gotta take care of a bunch of stuff still

by the way

anybody know what the (what I presume to be is a particle effect) Deepnest things that crawl on your screen are called?

[lapis pine]

@everyone tell this man what he needs

[cunning lagoon]

[young walrus]

uh, those are spiders

[copper nacelle]

@compact sedge ping him with a screenshot of his code

[compact sedge]

smart

how do you extract dllf rom terraria mod file

?

[copper nacelle]

tmodloader comes with a mod reader

[young walrus]

very carefully

[copper nacelle]

you go to mods

More info

And then click extract

It won't work unless you've modded the exe tho

Because it tries to hide the dll

I've got a patched version if you want it

If you don't do it, I will

to be tbh

ping him with a screenshot of the code and say thanks for open sourcing your mod

[cunning lagoon]

56 you are evil :o

[copper nacelle]

[solemn rivet]

don't expect any help here until you buy yourself the game

[cunning lagoon]

gradow is a senile old man now

talking to himself

[scarlet shoal]

nah nah i deleted my comments that he was replying to so i don't seem like too much of an ass

[compact sedge]

56 can you convert it to a dll for me and send me the dll and then I can decompile it

since you already have it patched?

and then zeeezle left the server

[cunning lagoon]

gradow bullied a newcomer into leaving the server

when will this madness stop

[mortal trout]

when he bullies you into leaving the server

[compact sedge]

alright ima try to do the thing 56 said

[cunning lagoon]

steal all their code 😈

[compact sedge]

actually terraria isn't installed, do I just need the patched exe or does tmodloader require other files too?

ur patched exe makes terraria not launch installing it on a fresh thing @copper nacelle

[copper nacelle]

Oh that's the windows exe

I think

[cunning lagoon]

any streams

i need something in the bg while i run

[rain cedar]

u

[young walrus]

Soon tm

[cunning lagoon]

[hollow pier]

100%

[cunning lagoon]

i will tune in when thjis run dies

[weary oyster]

imagine being able to stream

without dropping half the frames

[flat forum]

imagine being able to stream

[cunning lagoon]

the universe doesnt want you to get rekky

btw on the way to cyclone im pretty sure the left side of kp is faster than going through the fury tunnel

i uhh forgot to stop my cdash the other day and i golded it so i timed it and its like 1 or 2 seconds afster

[trim totem]

56 stream

[hollow pier]

bUt WhAt aBtuotr Fyruys?? of th eslfasfalnne!??!/

[cunning lagoon]

boi i just got a 50 kp

[hollow pier]

[cunning lagoon]

blessed day

50.98

[hollow pier]

post

[cunning lagoon]

gimme a sec

[compact sedge]

50 kilo pence?

that's like

500 pounds

[cunning lagoon]

https://youtu.be/QKAC8UYdgVw

nutty

[compact sedge]

more like, 51 kp

[hollow pier]

tied with tri

weary

[weary oyster]

o shit kurosh :o

3rd in the world

[hazy sentinel]

kur :o sh

[cunning lagoon]

excuse me tied 2nd thanks

[weary oyster]

but the left side thing, monstah told me right side is like multiple seconds faster

[cunning lagoon]

so am i doing something wrong then?

[weary oyster]

ive switched like 3 times between them when someone tells me one is faster

idk

[hollow pier]

hey ax just going oob and over is faster

[cunning lagoon]

i trust monstah more than myself tbh

[weak lodge]

meme menn

[cunning lagoon]

i'll do some more testing later

[weary oyster]

sounds good

[hollow pier]

mick live

[cunning lagoon]

who tf liked my h3 unlisted video

[flat forum]

took

fucknig long enough

Radiant Lost Kin done

fukc

[cunning lagoon]

nice

how many times did he empty hop on you

[rain cedar]

I thought you were mad it took mick so long to go live

[cunning lagoon]

same

[flat forum]

Way

too goddamn many

Also getting cornered by ghosts I didn't kill enough

[cunning lagoon]

just 🅱🅱ark

[hollow pier]

https://youtu.be/xVaPyti7G9Y rate my movement

actually sloppy but

the main part is the lumafly thing at the start

[flat forum]

(Note - he was, like all other Radiant bosses, done Charmless)

(and with minimal spell usage)

[cunning lagoon]

damn you found an uumuu skip

congrats

archives IL when

[hollow pier]

hmm

i messed up the tombo cdash that was very interesting

[cunning lagoon]

i always get hit by thatr stupid lumafly at the beginning

[hollow pier]

that's my strat

it's like 80% consistent

[cunning lagoon]

doesnt really matter because uumuu is not dangerous in 106

[hollow pier]

better for any% i guess

if the small jellyfish is really low you can just not jump

dash straight off the plat

[cunning lagoon]

i think they only activate when you get close

so its probably just about having a dash ready when you are next to it

but yeah i dont really bother with it in 106

[hollow pier]

archives il actually sounds pretty cool

[cunning lagoon]

i unironically think a birtplace il would be dope

[hollow pier]

@ sean

[cunning lagoon]

make one il for every room

rekky gets put into the segmented run ax has been working on

[dark wigeon]

more screenshots but some of the levels look more messed up than others

still need to figure out how backgrounds are done because those aren't showing up

[civic hare]

i'm excited about level editing ngl

[verbal isle]

Will the 1.4.2.4 randomizer work on current patch?

[rain cedar]

Yeah

[verbal isle]

With current patch API?

[rain cedar]

Yes

[verbal isle]

Ok thank you

[ornate rivet]

@cunning lagoon
Should I slow down the parry attack hornet does or only slow down the part where the grub beams spawn after the parry?

[cunning lagoon]

former

just dont make it instant

[ornate rivet]

ok

[cunning lagoon]

the beams dont really matter because ifg you have time to see the parry itself you know 100% the beam is coming

[ornate rivet]

yes sir

the reason why the beams were hurting hornet was because the fsm that controls whether the beam hurts the enemies or not is named damages_enemies and I thought it was damagesenemies

[cunning lagoon]

nice

[ornate rivet]

@copper nacelle
Is there a way to check which direction a gameobject is facing?
I tried gameObject.transform.getRotation() but that doesn't work

[copper nacelle]

localPosition

x

[ornate rivet]

many thanks

[copper nacelle]

negative is left and vice versa

[ornate rivet]

@cunning lagoon
Should I have the beams only move in sync with hornet's direction when she does the throw attack or should I have it do that when she does the parry as well?

wait no, I'll make it so that the beam goes in both directions when she does the parry

so nvm

[copper nacelle]

is this lightbringer

[ornate rivet]

this is if hornet installed lightbringer, yes

[ornate rivet]

@cunning lagoon
Sorry for pinging you so much but is the indication good now?
https://gph.is/2zXf49H

[cunning lagoon]

seems good

[ornate rivet]

yay

[fair rampart]

You might want to make some differentiation between player weavers and enemy weavers

[warped sinew]

can you make her needle throw attack like go out in a fan of directions around her? That would be cool

[ornate rivet]

like pure vessel?

[trim totem]

interesting

[ornate rivet]

I wonder how much lag I can make if I spawn 20 at the same time

[compact sedge]

honestly. I hate every attack that this game has that is a fan in every direction

aka p much just the radiance and pv as far as I remember

[ornate rivet]

but why

[compact sedge]

cuz

im bad at dodging it

:p

[trim totem]

can you make her needle track

[ornate rivet]

I mean I know PV's is too easy to dodge

maybe

[trim totem]

try dodging it without shade cloak

[ornate rivet]

but the boss was designed with shade cloak in mind

I cant seem to turn hornet's needle at an angle that is not verticle or horizontal

[floral furnace]

inb4 the needle has its own fsm

[ornate rivet]

it does

[floral furnace]

ech

[ornate rivet]

that kind of helped me actually tbh

[weary oyster]

make the needle throw spawn a row of vertical needles as it travels

[ornate rivet]

mah

nah*

I already did that with something else

[weary oyster]

👀

[warped sinew]

mfw i get the IG flame pillar bug three times in a row

[hazy sentinel]

IG flame pillar feature

[warped sinew]

make that 5 times now lol

wtf

side note, invert knight is looking amazing with the HUD inverted too

20/10

[ornate rivet]

Nearly done with DoH me thinks
@warped sinew
https://gph.is/2BbOIT0

All I have to fix now is stopping hornet from floating in the air in her third phase

[ornate rivet]

Alright, can someone test the mod for me: find any glitches and tell me if something is too rng/too easy?
Here is the github link and .dll file
https://github.com/SalehAce1/Daughter-of-Hallownest

Don't report on the third phase though, it's so buggy and dumb that I am probably going to change it completely

[compact sedge]

wow more sick gpl mods this is amazing. What is this not terraria?

[mortal trout]

looks really cool saleh

[ornate rivet]

thanks

[weak lodge]

saleh is god

well

not as god as 56

[dusky lion]

seanpr's collection of anime tiddy games is god

[weak lodge]

where is 753 when you need him tbh

[hollow pier]

just @ him

[weak lodge]

@copper nacellealt

shit

wait f#

dafuq

[hollow pier]

well why would you ping 56 and not 753

[weak lodge]

cause 56 is god

duh

56 explain this f# business

[dusky lion]

F# is a strongly typed, multi-paradigm programming language that encompasses functional, imperative, and object-oriented programming methods. F# is most often used as a cross-platform Common Language Infrastructure language, but it can also generate JavaScript and graphics processing unit code.

[copper nacelle]

It's a functional language which still uses .NET

Got bored and it's kinda neat

@compact sedge the trick is to make your code gpl and have a confusing game

[ornate rivet]

wtf does gpl stand for

[copper nacelle]

that way when someone wants to do something they borrow code and they're gpl'd

Gnu public license iirc

Terraria is too easy to mod

[compact sedge]

the trick is to not make an anti free software modding api as anti free software as the terraria one

[copper nacelle]

too many mit examples

[compact sedge]

hey like

KSP is very easy to mod

and like

[copper nacelle]

and example mod is super comprehensive

[compact sedge]

70% foss mods

or more

[ornate rivet]

oh I just chose that because you did

[compact sedge]

you chose that

because you had no other choice

[copper nacelle]

you're also legally required to

[ornate rivet]

well then good

[copper nacelle]

but no one actually gives a shit

[compact sedge]

apparently the sushi guy does

also can u send me a decompiled dll pls

I don't wanna rebuild ur patched api

for linux

[copper nacelle]

Seriously what the fuck is with terraria and the lack of open source mods

yeah I can do it when I get home

[compact sedge]

thx

[copper nacelle]

Like there's a list

And it's like 13 long

[hollow pier]

is fargo's open source

[copper nacelle]

Yes

I've contributed to it

[hollow pier]

ok fargo's isn't that shit

[compact sedge]

the other mod I asked about was creature something or other and the dude was like I have thought about it and have no intentions of doing so

[hollow pier]

can i stop exploding now fargo

[compact sedge]

didn't really give me any reasons but like

[hollow pier]

i expect a reply within 3 months

[compact sedge]

if ur accepting free art from the community you should give back

and many of these people do ask for free sprite art

[copper nacelle]

I mean the tmodloader hiding assets shit is weird as fuck

[compact sedge]

yee I kinda hate that modding api ngl

[copper nacelle]

it's not even hard to bypass if you're competent

It's like 4 IL instructions

[compact sedge]

it's just anti developer friendly

imo

[copper nacelle]

You just turn on show compiler generated methods

And you're done

[compact sedge]

it's very user friendly

but very dev unfriendly

esp since that modding api

also used to be closed source

[copper nacelle]

The fucking build process is cancer

[compact sedge]

very dev unfriendly

[copper nacelle]

you've got to build using tmodloader

Or have it as a post build event

It's annoying as shit

And the way you do cross mod stuff with like actual refs

[compact sedge]

also guess what

[copper nacelle]

Is you don't ref

You write the code with red text

[compact sedge]

tmodloader is uh.

[copper nacelle]

And have tmodloader check it

[compact sedge]

well IDK if it's actually open source

[copper nacelle]

It is

[compact sedge]

well ok

its open source

IDK if it's actually free software

lemme clarify

[copper nacelle]

I think it's mit

[compact sedge]

agplv3 but

there's also these terms you need to agree to apparently:

By downloading tModLoader, you agree to everything in this disclaimer and agreements.
I am not responsible for anything that happens to your computer if you download tModLoader. Common sense stuff.
Do not use tModLoader to do anything that breaks the Terraria Forums rules. In other words, the rules for making and sharing mods are the same as the rules for sharing mods on these forums; no removed items, no console content, etc.
Mods uploaded through the Mod Browser are tagged with your Steam username, so we will know if you do something bad.
You are allowed to mod tModLoader (similar to how tModLoader is a mod of Terraria), given that you provide a link to this thread.

[copper nacelle]

Tf

What if I want to make a weird mod that isn't allowed

[compact sedge]

explicitly, conditions 2: Do not use tModLoader...
and the last one: you must link a thread...

I know you are allowed to mandate people give you credit so that's possibly acceptable

but you cannot say how people can't use your software without making it not foss

[copper nacelle]

yeah that's cancer

[compact sedge]

like you can say don't upload any mods that break rules to the mod database and have separate terms for that

that's totally fine and smart

[copper nacelle]

Is that even legally binding

[compact sedge]

uh

I don't wanna find out

[copper nacelle]

don't write mods that don't follow random online forum rules

doesn't sound particularly legally binding

but maybe I'm bad

[compact sedge]

idk open source stuff that isn't foss is ultragay

I understand it in plenty of cases

and think it's just fine sometimes

but like I still hate it

like I'm cool with asprite doing as they do but synergy for example is omega dumb

synergy the mouse/keyboard sharing program

[copper nacelle]

synergy is paid but open source right

I remember getting off the AUR

[warped sinew]

lol i just got the weirdest bug, i did a dive in the ultimatum radiance fight

and the dive aura around me stayed on me after the dive finishes

so i just had a damage aura around me after that

[copper nacelle]

Nice

[warped sinew]

yeah and because radiance has no collision hitbox it worked extra well

hehe

[compact sedge]

no that's asprite. asprite is paid but open source but not FOSS. synergy was paid but open source but now is closed source with the devs for v2 taking much of the free code they got from v1 and using it in this closed version.

[copper nacelle]

wow nice

I think I used v1

Because of that

[civic hare]

woah graig

guess it figures that adding a method to the dive state would break something

let’s call it an exciting Easter egg

[copper nacelle]

[civic hare]

congrats you found the speedrun strat

[copper nacelle]

If you want I could add a try catch to insert method

It's a really simple action

[warped sinew]

i got it one times out of like 1000

so i wouldnt worry too much

[copper nacelle]

I could have it use API logs like ModHooks do

[vagrant leaf]

h

[copper nacelle]

h

[civic hare]

u

[copper nacelle]

so no try/catch or it doesn't matter or

[civic hare]

idk what causes this bug and i have no interest in fixing it so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[copper nacelle]

nice

[warped sinew]

@civic hare thanks to your boss i got to make my best video ever

https://youtu.be/Nc3vnEWAroE

watch her get DeStRoYeD

[copper nacelle]

lmao

floor too strong

[warped sinew]

I had to clip it lol

[wispy lynx]

thats unlucky

[hollow pier]

relatable

but that's why you just equip steady body

[civic hare]

it's great to see pro play of my boss

[compact sedge]

seeing graig play is just 😩. him and kurosh

oh just watched the ending

sad

[silk jetty]

not related to hollow knight but it's good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GtbY1XWGlQ&t=123s

[silk jetty]

why is exaltation constantly updating for me

[compact sedge]

b/c the sha1sum is wrong

reeee @fair rampart @copper nacelle

wait what's xhuis's new account

[cunning lagoon]

he ded

[ornate rivet]

I cant make the needle accelerate toward the player like the soul master orbs

https://giphy.com/gifs/TH2edA8lP54MFHmp0s

[weak lodge]

Maybe put the needle on a dash interval @ornate rivet

It will lunge once it lines up with the player and so and so seconds have passed

[ornate rivet]

hmm ok I will try that

[fast hearth]

oh my mantis gods...finally did it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGC5tlFuZ30

[mortal trout]

gj

[weak lodge]

nice

[copper nacelle]

@compact sedge why me wtf

[compact sedge]

cuz u set the sha1sum I thought

[copper nacelle]

I set it for the first version

[copper nacelle]

@fast hearth did 2nd phase for gods of battle seem fine

or RNG as shit

[copper nacelle]

@compact sedge e

[compact sedge]

thank you

[ember bloom]

Disgusting double jump cheese

Reeeee

[ornate rivet]

Why cant I instantiate a gameobject in a coroutine

[copper nacelle]

you should be able to

afaik

[dusky lion]

virgin afaik vs the chad iirc

[copper nacelle]

hmmm

[dusky lion]

If I Recall Correctly

[ornate rivet]

how bad is using a for loop in update I wonder

[copper nacelle]

[fair rampart]

Are you able to make a mod that just makes every box or enemy zote?

Npc not box

[ornate rivet]

how do you misspell npc as box

[fair rampart]

It autocorrected it

[ornate rivet]

ok

[fair rampart]

I’m on my phone

[ornate rivet]

uhh, there is an enemy randomizer mod which replaces every enemy so I would assume that it is possible

[fair rampart]

Also the characters for npc are right next to the characters for box

[copper nacelle]

npc is box 1 right

[hollow pier]

m[v is npc 1 left

[copper nacelle]

that's 1 right tho

[hollow pier]

well u right tho

[compact sedge]

what part of imksushi's mod should I send pics of?

this lack of ctor usage?

[cunning lagoon]

avenging angle you are evil 😈

[copper nacelle]

No that's not recognizable

Send an item

With the item desc and everything

That's easy to tell as his

[compact sedge]

what's your favorite imkSushi item?

[hollow pier]

the ankh shield

[cunning lagoon]

wow asking intimate questions already huh 😊

[compact sedge]

what's it called @hollow pier

that don't exist

[copper nacelle]

that's a meme

that's just a normal item

[hollow pier]

it was a joke because you never care enough to farm for the ankh shield in vanilla but imksushi makes it free to get

[compact sedge]

well I wouldn't know

[copper nacelle]

desert token 😩

idk

[compact sedge]

ok

how this for a screenshot

[copper nacelle]

remove the tokens

[cunning lagoon]

type imksushi u gay lmfao

in all caps

actually nv

[ornate rivet]

Deleting the fsm for the needle fixed all my problems

yay

[compact sedge]

im waiting for the ban

nah

idc

[cunning lagoon]

send screenshots

[copper nacelle]

^

[ornate rivet]

that's going to be my go to solution from now on

[copper nacelle]

I mean if you want to recode half the game's FSMs be my guest

[cunning lagoon]

drama 🤤

[ornate rivet]

all in favor of me giving hornet a markoth shield say I

[mortal trout]

fuck no

[copper nacelle]

why

please

[ornate rivet]

wtf?

what does this mean

[compact sedge]

here's some dank compact mode

also

why is there a classwide var that's private and unused in this item class

private Player player = Main.player[Main.myPlayer];

why

[cunning lagoon]

i like how this is lookin so far 👀

do tell us when he answers

[ornate rivet]

I need to make them more compact and bend toward the player
https://gph.is/2Be1Dny

[copper nacelle]

what the fuck

normal throw kinda looks out of place with the rest tbh

[cunning lagoon]

yo thats so cooool

[trim totem]

can you make her throw it normally but at an angle

[ornate rivet]

Yea I will fix that 56.
What do you mean Khan?
If I make her throw only one at an angle, wouldn't the odds of it hitting the knight be really low?

[copper nacelle]

To how many decimal places are floats accurate

[mortal trout]

saleh, I can't wait to play this

[ornate rivet]

according to the internet @copper nacelle

[copper nacelle]

ok so 9

ty

[ornate rivet]

Thanks Edgy

yw

[copper nacelle]

weary

y pos

[ornate rivet]

what's wrong with it?

[copper nacelle]

nothing

it's great

I'm labbing soft fall kp

[ornate rivet]

ok

[copper nacelle]

You're onGround for a frame even when the floor beneath you has broken when you get soft fall

someone said sometimes you move a few pixels up as you go onto the platform

[ornate rivet]

(I think linking other discord servers is not allowed)

but benji never checks here so we are good

[cunning lagoon]

why wouldnt it be allowed

we post invites to the global emoji servers all the time

[compact sedge]

it's not because it's "advertising"

[mortal trout]

no advertising rule

which is big meme

[compact sedge]

but it won't be enforced for not hallownest

so eh

[cunning lagoon]

it's not even advertising

[compact sedge]

no it's not I'm posting it as a reference for 56

incase he wants to see the meme conversation I have

[cunning lagoon]

also why does that rule even exist

everyone posts their videos all the time

[compact sedge]

I mean what

[cunning lagoon]

hm i see

lmfao

they deleted your messages nice

spicy

[compact sedge]

I know

sad

[copper nacelle]

lmao

[cunning lagoon]

gotem

[ornate rivet]

well time to make my mod (which is totally not an exact replica of 56's lost lord) closed source

[hazy sentinel]

MITn't

[copper nacelle]

i can actually sue for that

gpl is nice

[cunning lagoon]

[ornate rivet]

but I'm just a child

[cunning lagoon]

so is he

[mortal trout]

send nudes

[cunning lagoon]

^

[ornate rivet]

ok

brb

[cunning lagoon]

[copper nacelle]

wtf

[weak lodge]

u gud

[hazy sentinel]

what the wtf# the fuck#

[ornate rivet]

dont tell benji

here it is

[mortal trout]

disappointing

[ornate rivet]

are you body shaming edgy?

[mortal trout]

yes

[weak lodge]

nice makeup hiding true ugliness

show your real face

no makeup

[spice niche]

is there a mod that turns hornet into a proper boss?

[weak lodge]

yes saleh is working on that rn

[hazy sentinel]

hmmm

[cunning lagoon]

nice code

[weak lodge]

gg

[spice niche]

nice

[weak lodge]

verulean is a knight of catarina

[compact sedge]

alright sorry guess the imksushi thing is ded no more reason to look in that server

[weak lodge]

wait what

?

[cunning lagoon]

but we are still waiting for the final boss imksushi himself to show up and argue with you

[compact sedge]

oh yeah I hope so

we'll see

[weak lodge]

what happened in the imksushi server

was it gay

[ornate rivet]

I tried to send nudes but couldn't, sorry Kurosh

[cunning lagoon]

damn owner of Hollow Knight ruining my nuts

[ornate rivet]

it's no nut November though

[weak lodge]

wait what i was expecting a mspaint drawing saleh u gud

[ornate rivet]

Benbo is personally saving you from nutting

[hazy sentinel]

benbo is a robo hamster

[weak lodge]

alright here's me dont judge

see saleh

no makeup

[cunning lagoon]

dam u ugly

[weak lodge]

but i am u

[copper nacelle]

no kurosh would be able to get more than 3k

[cunning lagoon]

😎

[weak lodge]

u get more than 6k 😎

[copper nacelle]

okay

[weak lodge]

dam u rite

[cunning lagoon]

petition to change the past tense of nut to nat

[weak lodge]

petition to clear all speedrun.com hk leaderboards and have kurosh at #1

[cunning lagoon]

no need to clear anything for that

just only look at pop and nothing else

[copper nacelle]

any%

oh ok

[weak lodge]

then demote seanpr for multiple instances of unproffesionalism

[copper nacelle]

proff

[cunning lagoon]

look at kp`too but i sandbagged on that one to let ax get #1

[weak lodge]

shit

[cunning lagoon]

and im tiedwith tri on purpose too

[copper nacelle]

should i write a hive knight buff in f#

or get above 6k

or do nothing

[cunning lagoon]

get above 10k

[copper nacelle]

maggot

[weak lodge]

no that was a joke no need to declare your power over me i accept 😩

[cunning lagoon]

zoteZote

[copper nacelle]

i still want to play infinite grimm

and try and beat some score

[cunning lagoon]

beat graig

[copper nacelle]

You ever just get 8 outdated messages

[cunning lagoon]

if you beat him you replACE Him as lead `lpaytester

thats a known fact

[copper nacelle]

do you have a inf grimm save

all my saves are in godhome

or ngg

[weak lodge]

yes

i have 1

[copper nacelle]

give

[weak lodge]

o nvm

[copper nacelle]

haha yes

[weak lodge]

kurosh gotem

[mortal trout]

kurosh gay

[copper nacelle]

u

[mortal trout]

u gayest

[copper nacelle]

thou

[ornate rivet]

thou cringer

[copper nacelle]

[fossil oxide]

[copper nacelle]

@cunning lagoon is quickslash just worthless

[fossil oxide]

It makes you slash

But quicker

So no

[cunning lagoon]

you do a lot of damage at first but for more than half the fight you won't be able to make use of it

[copper nacelle]

ic

[cunning lagoon]

so i just focus my build on the 7k+ part of the fight

like you can barely get 2 hits in on the pillars and one on bats

etc

so qs gets worse as the fight goes on

but you can use it if you wanna just breeze through the first half of the fight

[copper nacelle]

what's a non-shit score

[cunning lagoon]

prob around 9-10k

it's roughly where grimm himself stops getting faster and the timescale starts increasing

[silk jetty]

do you think it would be cool if randomizer 3 started you with like 2000 geo

just to reduce farming

[copper nacelle]

what farming do you even do

[hollow pier]

if you get a movement in a shop i guess

[cunning lagoon]

lantern HappyJack

[hollow pier]

but that's really minimal

[silk jetty]

well, it would mostly be for the lantern

[hollow pier]

why get lantern when you can do the free itemless shade skip

[cunning lagoon]

i'd actually rather do that than dark room

[copper nacelle]

do you have any tips for that btw

or is it just don't suck

[cunning lagoon]

you talking ig or itemless shade skip

[copper nacelle]

itemless but ig tips would be cool too

[cunning lagoon]

prejump everything

[copper nacelle]

is this darkroom

[cunning lagoon]

the bats spawn on him then go up and down

so if you are really close when he spawns them they spawn on you

so keep a bit of distance

[copper nacelle]

[cunning lagoon]

enough to hit him while they dont hit you if that amkes sense

[copper nacelle]

yeah that makes sense

[cunning lagoon]

avoid parrying the uppercut unless you need the iframes

[copper nacelle]

understandable

[cunning lagoon]

avoid being in the air between attacks unless you are confident you can dodge the divekick

because he aims it where you are when he spawns

thats the gist of it

other than that just play a bunch

[hollow pier]

run gh nmg that's the only tip for itemless

[copper nacelle]

is the fireball easier than the damage boost back up

[hollow pier]

way easier

[copper nacelle]

pog

[hollow pier]

the dboost has an inconsistent second half

fireball is 500% consistent if you don't suck

[copper nacelle]

Can your 3rd hit on divekick be shade soul

[cunning lagoon]

wym

i pogo him twice

[copper nacelle]

pogo dash/move pogo ss

[cunning lagoon]

or thrice if he's near the wall

remember that a nail hit does more damage than an ss hit

[copper nacelle]

wait

oh shit

urite

[hollow pier]

tfw ss useless

pls buff ss

[cunning lagoon]

if you are late to the bats you can do nail ss nail but ideally you'd get 3 nail hits

[hollow pier]

woah what if you had qs to use your nail more

[cunning lagoon]

go ahead

also im pretty sure the time it takes him to teleport away after bats is random

sometimes he waits and sometimes he goes away instantly

[copper nacelle]

i don't prejump the uppercut enough

and i always try and jump it

[hollow pier]

is this optimal

[copper nacelle]

hmmm

[cunning lagoon]

if you see you are not gonna make it to the jump you can swing your nail early to parry

and or dash away

[copper nacelle]

o

[cunning lagoon]

also even if you dash you can get 2 hits in but it's pretty hard when he gets fast

also yes 1 pixel is the optimal width for twitch chat

[hollow pier]

i could just hide chat instead of doing that

[cunning lagoon]

then you wouldn't see me shittalking you

[hollow pier]

here is 10px chat

what is this

[cunning lagoon]

where we droppin

[hazy sentinel]

frames every 3 seconds

[cunning lagoon]

@ Ax2u#1284

[ornate rivet]

I think this is the last thing I am gonna add to DoH. I was going to do the Markoth shield because phase 2 is a bit lacking in content but I am tired.
https://gph.is/2S0J6k3

actually no, I'll add markoth shield because it should be really easy

[silk jetty]

just give her a soul master ball when she does the throw

or 3

[ornate rivet]

I tried bringing attacks from bosses outside of hornet but they get deleted when I copy them to the hornet room

[silk jetty]

oh

damn

[ornate rivet]

I'll figure that out one day

or I'll wait for someone to do it in a mod so I can copy it

[copper nacelle]

You reparent them to your go

and set them to DontDestroyOnLoad

it's in enemy rando

[weak lodge]

thanks for that ill need this also

[copper nacelle]

hmmmm

when you mod in 2020?

[weak lodge]

2056

[copper nacelle]

hmmmm

mod faster

or i'll make hive god in f#

[ornate rivet]

oh so it probably didn't work because I didn't do the whole parent thing

because I did do dontdestroy

I really want to add other boss attacks now but I also dont want to spend all of next week modding as well

[copper nacelle]

You shouldn't need the reparenting

[cunning lagoon]

just have 56 do it for you

[copper nacelle]

Did you check if there were FSMs on the object

Lots of FSMs destroy their host

[ornate rivet]

I did not

but I am pretty sure the mantis boomerang does have an fsm named Control connected to it

[copper nacelle]

it does

I modify it in Mantis Gods

it also destroys itself

[ornate rivet]

ok so I need to destroy it before it destroys the object

or modify it

[cunning lagoon]

oh, dose it?

[copper nacelle]

Could probably just disable it

Yeah when it goes off-screen it disappears iirc

[ornate rivet]

Destroying is more fun

[copper nacelle]

Yeah but then they'll be non-functional

[ornate rivet]

oh but then I have to add the movement to it

[copper nacelle]

Yeah

[cunning lagoon]

are there any sequence breaks with shade soul

by hitting enemies through walls

i was thinking about the shield guy in watcher's spire but that's not a big thing

dont even know if you can hit him i assume you can

nvm

[copper nacelle]

?

[hollow pier]

hmmm

[mortal trout]

thinking

[cunning lagoon]

toxic channel

[weak lodge]

#hk-discussion

[cunning lagoon]

wait pete itemless ahde skip is not a viable alternative to the dark room

you may not have vs

[hollow pier]

if you get vs or wraiths then it is

dark room is free anyways

just learn both

itemless shade skip is faster i think

[cunning lagoon]

doesnt matter i dont play rando lmao

well the shade skip opens up cot so thats better right

[hollow pier]

yeah

[ornate rivet]

@copper nacelle
What is the purpose of reparenting a gameobject?

[dark wigeon]

the loading part of the editor is pretty much done now. here's some screenshots in persp/ortho. not perfect but should be good enough to edit.

[cunning lagoon]

hot

[weak lodge]

did someone say hot

[cunning lagoon]

2 lb masks 🤔

[hollow pier]

obviously equipped lifeblood heart

[cunning lagoon]

i see isee

[ornate rivet]

Can people test my mod again? This should be the final version.
Here is the .dll file and the github page
https://github.com/SalehAce1/Daughter-of-Hallownest

[cunning lagoon]

sometimes the needle fan has a small hole in it

is that intended or is the weaverling still blocking projectiles

[ornate rivet]

uhh, idk why that hole happens. I dont think it's the weaverling and it's definitely not hornet

for now it's a feature

it probably happens because I cant do basic trig but idk

[cunning lagoon]

https://youtu.be/GZlysvTfv0U

not sure if i couldve done something differently there

but this happens pretty frequently and unless there's something i'm missing it's not really dodgeable

[ornate rivet]

oof, I was using sharp shadow so I didn't realize that

[cunning lagoon]

lmao nice

[ornate rivet]

will fix it

alright I made it so that she disabled her shield if she does a needle throw attack

should I give the .dll file?

[cunning lagoon]

sure

also for some reason hk decided it was a good idea to overwrite my res settings

so i guess im going back to 1080p

[ornate rivet]

nvm she gets stuck now

ok I think I fixed it
https://github.com/SalehAce1/Daughter-of-Hallownest

[cunning lagoon]

aight

doing some runs now will check it out later

[ornate rivet]

big thanks, good luck on your runs

[solemn basin]

Nice! I will give it a try too when I get off work or tomorrow morning. Just depends. But looking forward to trying it.

[mortal trout]

also hyped to try it

[silk jetty]

does anybody know if normal uumuu has his shell broken by jellyfish?

[warped sinew]

You gotta test bosses with no charms

When you make them otherwise you might overtune something

She looks good from the vids I'll try it out tonight

[cunning lagoon]

she's very fun

highly recommend giving it a shot

also mandatory fuck soul sanctum 🙂

gonna start just recording at 480p because this is pissing me off

[silk jetty]

wait, how do I use the file for that mod

[cunning lagoon]

you click on DoH.dll to download it

then you drop it into your mods folder

[silk jetty]

where is my mods folder?

[cunning lagoon]

your hk folder/managed/mods

if you are on steam its like steam/steamapps/common/hollow knight or some shit

[hollow pier]

now 480p aint bad but it's no 288p

[cunning lagoon]

i'll just slowly downscale until i no longer lag

[hollow pier]

pog

[cunning lagoon]

it already looks like trash

hopefully this is good enough

[hollow pier]

hk actually looks pretty good at 480

[cunning lagoon]

not compared to what it could look like

[silk jetty]

beat saber looks like shit below 720p

[cunning lagoon]

🤔

[silk jetty]

okay

so I have the DoH mod but hornet 2 doesn't have any different attacks, she just has the different title and different description

@ornate rivet the mod doesn't seem to work for me

it changes text but not any attacks

[cunning lagoon]

are you on godseeker mode

[silk jetty]

yes

does godseeker mode break it?

[cunning lagoon]

yes

[silk jetty]

ah

okay

[cunning lagoon]

this game really wants me to quit

[hollow pier]

it wants you to savequit haha

[ornate rivet]

oh yea still have not figured out how to fix that

tbh I haven't tried either

[silk jetty]

wow, I like the messages she gives

like saying that healing is for the weak

[ornate rivet]

yea I wanted to add some in game dialogue

[silk jetty]

and she has fury grubberfly which is pogger

[ornate rivet]

yeeeee, I got excited when I realized I could add that

might have over done it

[silk jetty]

I think it should start at 1/4 health instead of 1/2

because it's fury

and she should have normal grubberfly at full health

which won't last that long lol

wait, can you make the fury grubberflys do 2 mask damage?

[ornate rivet]

it does

it should do double damage already

[silk jetty]

oh

I didn't actually bother looking

lol

[copper nacelle]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[ornate rivet]

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmh?

[silk jetty]

yeah, they do

[ornate rivet]

yay

[silk jetty]

your coding is good

other than it just not working in godseeker

[ornate rivet]

uhh the code is definitely not good

[silk jetty]

well, good enough

[ornate rivet]

and it wouldn't work without 56

he taught me everything I know

Senpai 56

[mortal trout]

56 send nudes

[silk jetty]

ever jsut have discord? lag to hell

[ornate rivet]

sometimes

[mortal trout]

adrian why dont you ask for speedrunner role

dont you have like 3 speedruns up

[silk jetty]

yeah

but they are all pantheons so I don't count them really

[mortal trout]

im pretty sure you can get the role with that but ok

[ornate rivet]

every bee that drops in the hive knight boss is a separate fsm kill me

[silk jetty]

wait, really?

what the fuck

[ornate rivet]

yes

[cunning lagoon]

i actually cant believe sanctum maed it into the game

AND it hasn't been fixed yet

[hollow pier]

@tc patch 1221 sanctum

[cunning lagoon]

what are you trying to say

it's just as bad on cp except it doesn't lag

unless they have actually changed how twisters work but i dont think they have

its actually so beyond stupid

[hollow pier]

just don't get hit

[cunning lagoon]

yes you are right

i should just go faster

[hollow pier]

glad we resolved this

[silk jetty]

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[cunning lagoon]

and i mean both sm and st are rngfests

but im really not expecting them to make them more consistent just for speedrunning

but twisters are just completely absurd

that is it i am done venting

gonna try to foc us on getting a pb already

[glacial panther]

soul master is bullshit and rng

[cunning lagoon]

soul master not sdo much but tyrant yeah

for speedrunning specifically ofc

[glacial panther]

yeah I can see soul tyrant being a huge problem

I've never run anything other than any% though

[hollow pier]

no 6 orb attacks weary

[cunning lagoon]

thats the one you want

[hollow pier]

that's why i said no 6 orb attacks weary

[cunning lagoon]

i thought weary was for good things

[hollow pier]

using weary for bad things weary

[cunning lagoon]

smd pete

[hollow pier]

any time dad

[warped sinew]

@cunning lagoon I'm thinking of upgrading to a 2080ti. I might post you my old 1080 to donate to your cause lol

[river eagle]

Where do you need a 2080ti?

[warped sinew]

I won't be happy till I get dlk 1080 vids

[river eagle]

Apparently it's not that much better than the 1080...

[warped sinew]

Yeah but when its free why wouldn't I?

[river eagle]

wtf stealing is wrong ok

[warped sinew]

OK not free but heavily reduced cos its a tax write off

Gametester = nearly free haedware

To the tax man

[river eagle]

[warped sinew]

Hey I gotta test the game to the limit! Its legit for work I swear.....

[cunning lagoon]

wtf are you made of money

although i dont think

1 sec

can only talk on cutscenes

dont think its my gpu its a newish 1060

i think my cpu is just dying

it's really old

i'll buy a new one soon

[river eagle]

@cunning lagoon Hollow Knight is quite a CPU intensive game (FSM's) so a shitty cpu can usually work as a bottleneck for your GPU

[cunning lagoon]

yea thats probably it

any suggesitons

[ornate rivet]

here I am using a 3 year old laptop to mod hollow knight

[cunning lagoon]

btw graig how is that 106 learning going 👀

[river eagle]

Just get an i5

You really don't need an i7

[cunning lagoon]

i have an i5

[river eagle]

and i3 is just trash

What model though?

[cunning lagoon]

Intel(R) Core™ i5-4570 CPU @ 3.20GHz 🙂

its the same one i got when i built my computer like

[river eagle]

ok that's quite old really

[cunning lagoon]

5 years ago maybe

[river eagle]

what would be your budget for a new one?

[hollow pier]

lol not having 2.3ghz

[river eagle]

also note that your motherboard also limits your choices

[cunning lagoon]

i feel like something within the 200€ range is something i can reasonably afford

[river eagle]

or you'd have to get a new motherboard too

[cunning lagoon]

could go a bit higher

[floral furnace]

rgb motherboards tbh

those if you set the colors to red you get 20% more speed

[cunning lagoon]

🧐

[warped sinew]

I started learning it but I just can't be bothered anymore. I have full completed this game too many times I just don't really enjoy it like I used too. I will run the pantheon categories cos that's fun. I'm enjoying modded bosses right now.

[cunning lagoon]

lol thats fair

[river eagle]

well unfortunate for you but the 1150 socket your current CPU and thus your motherboard too is pretty old

so for around 200€ You can't get anything better than what you already have

[cunning lagoon]

aight thats okay

[warped sinew]

I'm waiting on you taking the WR tho

[cunning lagoon]

what about 300€

[hollow pier]

hey graig i can playtest for you

[warped sinew]

But I see you keep dying... Pick up your game m8!!

[cunning lagoon]

i'm working on it

[warped sinew]

I was steel soul running when you were in diapers!!!!!

@hollow pier OK I'll subcontract out my testing to you

[hollow pier]

👀

[warped sinew]

I'll take 30%

[river eagle]

@cunning lagoon Also note that it's black friday in like a couple of days

[hollow pier]

good enough

[river eagle]

so you could get a new CPU for a good discount

[cunning lagoon]

nice

ok so lets say 300

what does that get me

i just want to be able to speedrun hk

[river eagle]

god tier i 56600k

Are you seriously not getting at least 60fps?

[cunning lagoon]

it runs well for the most part

when i get to cot it dips a lot

until like

ancient basin or so

[river eagle]

do you have a fps display on?

[cunning lagoon]

i do wanna upgrade regardless though

it's not only hk

well i don't really play other games atm

[floral furnace]

Nvidia / Hollow Knight collaboration special prebuilts when

[cunning lagoon]

but yeah i need to upgrade

[warped sinew]

What is your CPU now?

[cunning lagoon]

so hk running like garbage gives me a good excuse

Intel(R) Core™ i5-4570 CPU @ 3.20GHz 🙂

[floral furnace]

what that cpu is even better than mine, then again i dont stream

[cunning lagoon]

also i play at 504p 😄

[hollow pier]

288p streams are calling