archived-modding-development

[mortal trout]

seanhorheristo?

[copper nacelle]

@fair rampart what are you trying to do w/ that

[solemn rivet]

sean human resources

[fair rampart]

you told me to use gamemanager.setplayervariable so I did

IDK how to use it

[copper nacelle]

h o o k

i t

to be tbh

[solemn rivet]

wait

so we have a NEW AA?

wtf

how am I supposed to deal with this

two dlk, two AA

[copper nacelle]

weary

[mortal trout]

sad

ban angle

ez

[iron crown]

Why are there two DLKs wtt

wtf*

[solemn rivet]

I think they should divide into two teams

[mortal trout]

@weak lodge @cunning lagoon

[solemn rivet]

and fight

[fair rampart]

but Angle is so much better than me.

[iron crown]

I enjoy typing on mobile

[fair rampart]

I suck

[iron crown]

DLKnightmere

More like

Just Knightmere

[mortal trout]

tbh yeah

[copper nacelle]

why do generics not have hooks

[solemn rivet]

so DLKurosh + Avenging Angle versus DLKnightmere + Abyssal Alchemist

[copper nacelle]

i could've sworn this was added

[iron crown]

Don't worry Alc I regard any mod above Redwing even if it's not functional

[mortal trout]

yeah but knightmere was in the server before kurosh

[floral furnace]

better start using them nordic As

[copper nacelle]

but kurosh has more wr(s)

so he wins

easy

[mortal trout]

makes sense

[floral furnace]

DLKush

[solemn rivet]

and kurosh has watched me stream more than knightmere has

[floral furnace]

🍁 🔥

[iron crown]

Yeah but nobody cares about Kurosh

Haha who is nerd they aren't even horheristo smh

[floral furnace]

Same, i will never acknowledge Kuro as a speedrunner until he fucking admits that Dashmaster and Sprintmaster are good

[mortal trout]

horheristo is god of gods

[weak lodge]

Who pinged me

[mortal trout]

md

[weak lodge]

Was it 56

[mortal trout]

me*

[copper nacelle]

@weak lodge

[iron crown]

How can you not accept the usage of dash and sprintmaster

[mortal trout]

@weak lodge

[weak lodge]

Edgy knight stop lying

[floral furnace]

I know right?

[weak lodge]

It was 56

Dingo.

[mortal trout]

u

[iron crown]

Reminder: The mod installer (https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe) and other modding resources can be found from the pinned messages.

[weak lodge]

me

[mortal trout]

reminder I WANT YOUR MOTHERFUCKING CREDIT CARD NUMBER

[weak lodge]

I’ll have to report you for impersonating 56 out mantis lord and savior

[copper nacelle]

out

[sic]

[weak lodge]

out

speaking of out

[mortal trout]

is this bad memes that I should stop participating in

[weak lodge]

Let’s all die

Nice good job we have all killed ourselves... what now

[floral furnace]

only half of these are good emojis tbh

the rest are trash

[iron crown]

Nothing we're dead lmao

56 stop typing we're meant to be dead

[copper nacelle]

@fair rampart On. hooks don't support generics do you could IL patch something with DynamicMethod or just make your own pretty easily with new Detour or new Hook

basics on that are here

https://github.com/0x0ade/MonoMod/blob/master/README-RuntimeDetour.md

[fair rampart]

thx I'll be reading that.

[copper nacelle]

IL is better because you don't kill any other mods which want to hook that

also harder but e

[copper nacelle]

    // switch expression                                                        
    // then switch should be exhaustive                                         
    // break <value_of_switch_expression> syntax for blocks                     
                                                                                
    final String attr = switch (day) {                                          
      case 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 -> "weekday";                                          
      case 7, 1 -> "weekend";                                                   
      // it is possible to do this without a block and break                    
      // so default -> "unknown"; is enough here                                
      default -> {                                                              
        break "unknown";                                                        
      }                                                                         
    };                                                                          

c# cases with commas when

that's part of java 12 btw

[floral furnace]

oh yeah now java has one thing thats redeemable /s

but real shit looks alot cleaner and better tbh

[copper nacelle]

yeah

      case 2:                                                                   
      case 3:                                                                   
      case 4:                                                                   
      case 5:                                                                   
      case 6:     

vs

case 2, 3, 4, 5, 6

[floral furnace]

better than making 40 cases on top of each other

[copper nacelle]

afaik the closest thing in c# is var-when statements for that

case var _ when new int[] {2, 3, 4, 5, 6}.Contains(val)

or

case var _ when 2 <= val && 6 <= val

but that'd only work for like ints and stuff so it wouldn't work for a bunch of small strings that you're comparing against e.g "1", "@", ","

i think the array would be way way worse performance wise tho

the lambda stuff is also kinda neat but the comma cases are way way better than a bunch of cases on top of each other for small stuff imo

for like long enum names i could see a bunch of cases on top of each other being better

[floral furnace]

can you also not make an array of different data types

[solemn rivet]

wut

like a tuple?

[floral furnace]

i think?

hol up

[cunning lagoon]

amateur

[solemn rivet]

in c# you have tuples, classes and structs, all doing basically that

[floral furnace]

oh yeah i see i see

didnt even know they existed

[dusky lion]

yall mind if i

[floral furnace]

its not dynamic tho, since you have to explicitly declare what type of variables has to be in it

[dusky lion]

i dont know anything about this language tbh i just found it one day

[floral furnace]

anything else is better than javascript tbh /s

[rain cedar]

https://scratch.mit.edu/

[copper nacelle]

.NET 3.5 doesn't have tuples tho

[dusky lion]

Python has a special place in hell

[floral furnace]

it isnt? oof

[rain cedar]

Python is pretty good though

[floral furnace]

heard it was hell to debug tho

i mean if youre not used to it at least

[copper nacelle]

it can be

[quiet marsh]

Any mod recommendations for a playthrough?

[dusky lion]

chaos mod

[rain cedar]

rng mod

[dusky lion]

darkness

[rain cedar]

The holy trinity

[hollow pier]

pretty sure that's sean, icono and the src leaderboards

[copper nacelle]

😩

[floral furnace]

sean why

literal iconogod

[hollow pier]

i think a close second is thetimesink, good pace and elderbug

[cunning lagoon]

f you have spell twister the soul meter should light up whebn you have 24 soul

[civic hare]

MonoMod is my favorite dreamer

[hollow pier]

same

[floral furnace]

whebn

[trim totem]

someone stream

[hollow pier]

kuro

[dusky lion]

56 stream homework

[cunning lagoon]

[trim totem]

56 yes

[hollow pier]

tbh we both streamed already 56 should

[cunning lagoon]

yea

[floral furnace]

no dreamers killed true ending run when

[trim totem]

i will listen to you doing homework 56

[hollow pier]

anyone know if is a game sprite

probably not right

[trim totem]

what like just the head?

[hollow pier]

the emote

is a sprite

[cunning lagoon]

i dont think so

[floral furnace]

its when they run right

before you murder their asses

in that FK room

[hollow pier]

idk

[copper nacelle]

i think this supports .NET 3.5

https://www.nuget.org/packages/System.ValueTuple/

if it does i can put in modcommon later

[cunning lagoon]

this is how they look when they run

not even close

[trim totem]

56 stream

[hollow pier]

if it's a game sprite i'll add it to ffz real quick

[cunning lagoon]

why not just

[trim totem]

damn u rite

[cunning lagoon]

use

[hollow pier]

what

if it's from an artist they can get mad monkamega

[cunning lagoon]

ok

@ simo who made maggot

[hollow pier]

:mago

gg

[cunning lagoon]

this is pissing me off

i cant run if i dont fix my lag issues

[hollow pier]

lower res

[cunning lagoon]

i might have to

[civic hare]

:mgaggoggto:

[hollow pier]

good

may i suggest 896x504

[cunning lagoon]

the knight looks so silly when he dives

[hollow pier]

no you silly xd

[cunning lagoon]

56 learn 106

[copper nacelle]

u

[cunning lagoon]

yea

[copper nacelle]

fuck

can u don't

[hollow pier]

56 do something

[dusky lion]

56 stream homework

[cunning lagoon]

pete learn 106 too

[floral furnace]

56 breathe

[hollow pier]

no i just learned nsoob

i can learn 100% i guess

[copper nacelle]

value tuple doesn't support 3.5

i can copy over mono's tuple i mean what

https://github.com/kekekeks/MonoLib/blob/master/MonoLib/Tuples.cs

[cunning lagoon]

wtf thief

[copper nacelle]

open source

™

[hollow pier]

i can make a steam group chat then not include 56 in it

[dusky lion]

good idea

[cunning lagoon]

Pog

do that

[hollow pier]

too late veru already did

[floral furnace]

// THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND,
// EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF
// MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND
// NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHORS OR COPYRIGHT HOLDERS BE
// LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY, WHETHER IN AN ACTION
// OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION
// WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE SOFTWARE.
//

Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining

damn it

[cunning lagoon]

yo so how do you god cycle

[floral furnace]

now we cant sue 56

[hollow pier]

it's pretty easy

just jump at the right pixel

[dusky lion]

ostracize 56

[hollow pier]

or be fast enough to actually make it

but no one does that lol it's not as cool

[cunning lagoon]

but making it fast enough would be faster right

[hollow pier]

yeah but is it cooler than a pixel perfect jump

[cunning lagoon]

idk i feel like breezing through the entyire room as fast as possible is pretty cool

[hollow pier]

ok then do it

[cunning lagoon]

ok i will

[floral furnace]

kuro will you play hollow knight 112 in AGDQ 2036

[cunning lagoon]

112

[weak lodge]

Kuro go run at GDQ tbh

[solemn rivet]

^

[hollow pier]

any kick tkm

[weak lodge]

You’re really skilled

didn’t khan say to inv him tho?

If you want you can kick him

[dusky lion]

i am at least steam friends with knightmere

[cunning lagoon]

[weak lodge]

I’m not sure if 56 will play terraria so what’s the use of having him in there

[dusky lion]

hey wait a second

i have terraria

i have access to motor functions

[weak lodge]

Also what do I call you ptkyr or Pete

[hollow pier]

either or

[cunning lagoon]

11043753891211241552174222332611

[weak lodge]

Pete it is

[hollow pier]

can someone find out what my name means so i can change it thanks

[trim totem]

ptkyte

[weak lodge]

But yea kick him if he’s just gonna stay there but I guess if he accepted means at some point he would join

[trim totem]

did he accept tho

[weak lodge]

Yea

iirc

[cunning lagoon]

imma be pissed if you kick my boy

[weak lodge]

Kurosh will piss better run :skrrt:

Also I like the fact we did only half the total bosses

[trim totem]

speed run terraria

[hollow pier]

could tbh

but it's long

[cunning lagoon]

rng

[iron crown]

Why Pete though

[hollow pier]

do seeded runs

[cunning lagoon]

still a shitton of rng in them

[weak lodge]

Will veru do a seeded run?

[cunning lagoon]

voodoos plantera spawns etc

[hollow pier]

yeah but that isn't that bad

[weak lodge]

I thought next time we playing calamomeme

[hollow pier]

really only meme is plantera

do runners still do that screencap look for pink thing

[cunning lagoon]

plantera not spawning ends like 80% of runs

[hollow pier]

i would probably die to a pillar

[weak lodge]

Lucky for us a planters bulb spawned I. The most open area In The jungle

[hollow pier]

vortex to be tbh

[iron crown]

Dies to stardust pillar

[weak lodge]

Also Pete thanks again for that sandstorm bow

Shu’s wrath?

[cunning lagoon]

np

[weak lodge]

Carried me till solar eclipse

Kurosh Pete alt

[hollow pier]

pretty ok bow

[iron crown]

I always knew kurosh was ptkyr

[hollow pier]

same

[dusky lion]

kurosh

you psychopath

[trim totem]

what is that

[cunning lagoon]

wow stalker

[dusky lion]

payday 2

defeating every single contract on death sentence with one down

[trim totem]

is that good

[dusky lion]

yes

[hollow pier]

but he still has two left lmao noob

[weak lodge]

Kurosh didn’t you say payday 2 has like 1k achievements

[dusky lion]

it does

[weak lodge]

Ohh Shit

[iron crown]

I'm sure 100%ing it is fun

[dusky lion]

not the most achievements of any steam game

That goes to "Running through Russia" with 4k

[weak lodge]

I’ve only gotten 1 perfect game

Anyone whose friends on steam with me knows that that is

Or anyone with common sense tbh

[dusky lion]

It has a Positive score and has a sequel

[floral furnace]

🅱ayday

more like

[dusky lion]

nice job knightmere

[floral furnace]

i got your dlc right here

[weak lodge]

Wait 52 hrs in the past 2 weeks

Did I really

[trim totem]

dang

[hollow pier]

the cheevos are just like 20 of each key on a qwerty keyboard

and then symbols

and some emotes

[dusky lion]

DVORAK weary

[hollow pier]

colemak imo

[weak lodge]

Na DVORAK gay for me

I’m a left handed boi

[cunning lagoon]

ok no more runs lost to dark rooms

now im ready to take wr

[copper nacelle]

x

e

[cunning lagoon]

lol shut up 56 you dont even have A Time

[copper nacelle]

x anyways

[cunning lagoon]

outsmarted by a 15 yo yet again

[floral furnace]

who cares about history they all died anyway :triumn

ph:

[copper nacelle]

:triumnph:

[floral furnace]

too lazy to edit

[copper nacelle]

understandable

[leaden hedge]

the only good empire is the british empire

number 1 or nothing

[cunning lagoon]

just ddark lol

how do elevators work

how do i tell it to go up or down

[floral furnace]

goddamn redcoats not gettin of r' property' /s

[cunning lagoon]

k weirdo

[floral furnace]

you first buddy

[trim totem]

56 stream homework

[cunning lagoon]

khan stream whatever you are doing at the current moment

[trim totem]

i need to get my cereal first

[cunning lagoon]

[trim totem]

i'm streaming myself eating cereal

[dusky lion]

cant wait

[trim totem]

i started

[dusky lion]

this is pretty epic

[trim totem]

do you have your audio on

[dusky lion]

yes

mmmmmm

https://www.twitch.tv/khana6n2 reminder

khan asmr reading origami book

[cunning lagoon]

@copper nacelle it's your turn to stream

if you are awake

if you are asleep then wake up

[cunning lagoon]

fuck your homework

[copper nacelle]

yes

[cunning lagoon]

YES

(this is where you stream)

@ Khan#6742 academy

my 3 key broke too

time to stop playing numpad i guess

[copper nacelle]

buy a good keyboard

[cunning lagoon]

no

[dusky lion]

fellas

my keybard has a shit numpad

[copper nacelle]

my keyboard doesn't have a numpad

[dusky lion]

fellas

why is there no backspace near numpad

[cunning lagoon]

?

can i make it so these 6 keys dont do anything when playing hk

[dusky lion]

just replace the numlock by stretching the backspace button next to it closer to the numpad

[copper nacelle]

why

You could autohotkey them to other keys if you want to use them for movement or something

[dusky lion]

because who in the whole wide world actually uses numpad as scroll lock

[cunning lagoon]

alternatively

how do i unbind num lock

so i use num lock /* 789

at least it's nice to know it wasn't me making mistakes and it was my keyboard messing with me

pog

[warped sinew]

@copper nacelle that UI is great

Is the soul black in the orb?

[copper nacelle]

it's black except full soul because full soul hates me and idk why

[warped sinew]

TC code

[copper nacelle]

Would it be better to have it stay a tiny bit under full for the main orb in the UI while the vessels fill or just leave the main orb white

[warped sinew]

Yeah 98 soul vs 99 is no different

[copper nacelle]

ok i can make the ui stay black then

pog

[warped sinew]

Well I guess it is kinda diff cos only get two spells from an orb..

Can you just mod Max soul to 100 then set it to Max fill 99. So it stays black?

[copper nacelle]

it'll go to 99

[cunning lagoon]

i took the keycap off and cleaned it a little bit and it worked 50/50 times

hopefully it stays like that

[copper nacelle]

but if i remove the max cap white thing

then it'll just look like 98

the vessels will still fill and it'll actually be 99

[cunning lagoon]

how do i unbind num lock

[copper nacelle]

rebind it to 5

or meta3 or something

[ember bloom]

Fuckin pings

when me sleep

smh

[copper nacelle]

you can't just have it do nothing and still use it in game

[cunning lagoon]

@ember bloom

wtf

thats bs

[copper nacelle]

@🅱eraloth

[ember bloom]

Yes, this is Sprintmaster + Dream

[copper nacelle]

yes

now invert knight doesn't give you a seizure if you use sprintmaster

[cunning lagoon]

ok so how do i rebind it

[copper nacelle]

AutoHotKey

[cunning lagoon]

ok

[copper nacelle]

https://www.autohotkey.com/

[cunning lagoon]

so unmlock will be my cdash key

do i rebind it to 4

[copper nacelle]

rebind it to anything

anything non-dumb

[cunning lagoon]

[ember bloom]

When Doritos of Battle

[cunning lagoon]

ok i think i know what you mean

[ember bloom]

Recoloring is ugh

[cunning lagoon]

44444444

haha it works

hackerman

[ember bloom]

Fuckin AHK

I used it for DMC4 because game goes nuts if you hold more than 2 keys

[cunning lagoon]

this is some pog shit

[ember bloom]

Is that fuckin numpad

No

[cunning lagoon]

yeah

now unfortunately i will have to change my nohboard again

[copper nacelle]

if you rebind numlock to what your old keys were

nohboard will still work

[cunning lagoon]

no

i changed everything 2 rows up

[copper nacelle]

rebind everything in ahk back down

easy fix

[cunning lagoon]

no

this is garbage though

its so uncomfortable

[copper nacelle]

mouse

[cunning lagoon]

i guess i could use 789456

still garbage

[copper nacelle]

buy a new keyboard

[cunning lagoon]

or i could use . as quick cast

i'll do that

[copper nacelle]

what in fuck

[cunning lagoon]

or i could play controller tdogRat

[copper nacelle]

[silk jetty]

lol

[floral furnace]

whats so funny? hes just asking, thats a legit question

1. Buy it from sly
2. Theres one in the City of Tears
3. Ancient Basin
4. Right side of Colloseum

/s

[cunning lagoon]

Lmao nice xD

[floral furnace]

how bad is it that everytime i open VS it keeps notifying me to recover a file

[cunning lagoon]

4 bad

[floral furnace]

oh ok no worries so long as it doesnt become 5 bad thanks again kuro

[cunning lagoon]

nproblem

[copper nacelle]

n🅱ro🅱lem

[cunning lagoon]

shut up im still mad you left te terraria world and didnt stream

[floral furnace]

terraria more like starbound

[copper nacelle]

shut up im still mad you didn't do 1.75x pv

[cunning lagoon]

im ,mad you are not learning 106ç

[copper nacelle]

cedilla

[cunning lagoon]

Lool

[copper nacelle]

no

stop

you all have ruined lol

now it's

ddark looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

[cunning lagoon]

what's the lore on tha<t

[copper nacelle]

just go to #hk-lore looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

i now want to kill myself even more

thank

[cunning lagoon]

Lol

[floral furnace]

kuro will fucking melt the moment he enteres lore

[ember bloom]

56 if you want rest of sheets recolors then deliver

Tea Dog Trigger

[cunning lagoon]

yeah i dont wanna entere it

[floral furnace]

lore will steal your pop wr strats

[copper nacelle]

@ember bloom

[ember bloom]

Fuck u

I hope horher makes Lost Lord videwo and make milion of shekel

[cunning lagoon]

whats more correct

elsewhere or somewhere else

[floral furnace]

depends on your dialect

[cunning lagoon]

😔

english

[floral furnace]

🅱nglish

fack i dont know how to proceed with this mod, doing a structured guide and goal might be more efficient, but who the fuck would do that lmao

[cunning lagoon]

whaat mod

[copper nacelle]

aa

whavenging anglet mod

[floral furnace]

anti air

[cunning lagoon]

Lol

[floral furnace]

dlk play iconoclast so i can ask you about it and youll provide me inspiration

[cunning lagoon]

i can play hollow knight instead

Sesan

[floral furnace]

Sesan

[ember bloom]

Bad Zote

[floral furnace]

OH YEAH now i remember im supposed to do that shitty boost thing

[cunning lagoon]

WHY ARE YOU YELLING

[floral furnace]

IM SORRY 🆗

[copper nacelle]

HI SORRY 🆗

[floral furnace]

HI HI SORRY 🆗 (edited)

[cunning lagoon]

man thats dope

for real how do elevators work

[copper nacelle]

FSM

they parent your knight's gameobject to the elevator

so that movement of the elevator changes local pos

iirc

or do you mean irl

[elfin urchin]

faint whispers from behind witchcraft

[cunning lagoon]

ok but how do you make them go up or down

i got stuck at sanctum yesterday because i wasnt able to make the elevator go down

[floral furnace]

oh wait is this the shade soul room?

[elfin urchin]

[rain cedar]

I heard someone had iconoclasts questions

[copper nacelle]

@floral furnace

[cunning lagoon]

but how do i make it go the way i want it to go

[elfin urchin]

[floral furnace]

was there horizonal boost from charge shots to the left and right or was it only for jump boosting upwards

[rain cedar]

Yeah horizontal too

[floral furnace]

downward?

[rain cedar]

Yeah

[elfin urchin]

You can only go up when you are already at the lowest point

[floral furnace]

ech, ty ty

[cunning lagoon]

no

[rain cedar]

The horizontal boosts last indefinitely as well

[copper nacelle]

add the thing where you get boosted up a bit when you kill an enemy so we can run gun mod with cool new skips

[floral furnace]

wdym the boosts last?

like it doesnt pull you down immediately?

[elfin urchin]

gravity doesn’t exist?

[floral furnace]

otherwise using RecoilLeft/RightLong isnt gonna work because gravity fucking pulls you down the moment you trigger it ech

[rain cedar]

You still have gravity just you keep the speed

[floral furnace]

OH

i see

[elfin urchin]

Hmm

[rain cedar]

It lasts until you stop holding the direction or land on an upward slope sometimes

But there's no slopes in hk

[floral furnace]

aight aight i got it, recoil left isnt gonna be enough i guess im gonna have to apply the force directly to the players position instead

also wdym 56

[cunning lagoon]

taco when are you bopping sean

[floral furnace]

[copper nacelle]

when you kill stuff you go up

thetim2FishJump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsOkGLUbXiA

[rain cedar]

Yeah

[floral furnace]

wouldnt that be awkward tho 🤔

[rain cedar]

You have to press jump again

It's not an intentional mechanic

Idk how this is even a bug

[floral furnace]

oh i see

so hit something => press jump => get boost?

[rain cedar]

Yeah you've just gotta jump during the freeze frame when you kill something

Hit me up if you decide to implement airswim too

[rain cedar]

Oh yeah

The friction is way more when you're on the ground

So it's basically impossible to get boosts unless you jump

Also if you switch direction same frame you shoot you get the boost in the new direction but the shot goes in the old one

And you can cancel out of down-boost by attacking

Please implement all of this

Or bad mod

[cunning lagoon]

oh is ttacco making an iconoclasts mod for hk?

[rain cedar]

Idk why else would he be asking about it?

[floral furnace]

Probably will go for the simpler ones then move my way on to the more complicated stuff but yeah ill try

[cunning lagoon]

i thought he was going to run iconoclasts

and was asking you about the tech

[floral furnace]

boi i just wasted all my cash on some mmo i dont have m o n e y

[cunning lagoon]

to learn how to do it

[floral furnace]

also it was the gun mod i posted earlier

[cunning lagoon]

didnt see it

[floral furnace]

way way earlier

like

7 early

[cunning lagoon]

hollow point?

[floral furnace]

ye

[cunning lagoon]

oh

[floral furnace]

[copper nacelle]

[cunning lagoon]

[rain cedar]

Oh

Another thing

You can't do both a double jump and a gun boost

It's one or the other

[floral furnace]

but but how are you supposed to fly to the stars at dirtmouth then ?!?!?!?! /s

real shit what would happen

[rain cedar]

You would go off the top of the screen

Pretty interesting

[floral furnace]

understandable

is there nade boost btw? it shouldnt be too hard tbh (this is what i always say and it ends up hard) but something like if youre hit by the nade hitbox just call the mushroom bounce method

[cunning lagoon]

makeshift explosion pogo

[civic hare]

those steam discussion posts about dark souls being reasonable but hollow knight being way too hard are especially weird to me now that i'm playing dark souls and getting my ass kicked way more than I ever was in hk

[cunning lagoon]

i think it's because they are not similar games at all and different people struggle with different games

[civic hare]

tru

[cunning lagoon]

but that's just me

[civic hare]

I played a lot of tricky platformers before hk, but basically no third person action rpgs before ds

[floral furnace]

taurus run = "its part of the experience"
mantis run = "wtf useless backtracking wtf"

[rain cedar]

There's no grenade boosts

[floral furnace]

aight aight, but wouldnt do harm if i added it eitherway yes

[civic hare]

anyway, the point is I died to ornstein when smough was dead and he had a tiny sliver of health left and now my hands are shaking

[floral furnace]

nice

you now have the best upgrade in the game

oh wait did it register as a kill?

[civic hare]

no

[floral furnace]

ech

[copper nacelle]

o&s is the only hard boss in ds1

imo

[civic hare]

this is not a clutch victory story, it's a tragedy

[cunning lagoon]

gael is free lmao just get good

[copper nacelle]

and they're not even very hard

[floral furnace]

machete dog demon if you count "bullshit" in it

[copper nacelle]

that boss 🚮

[floral furnace]

yeah

[copper nacelle]

but it's still not hard imo

just kinda reee

[floral furnace]

literally rename it to "who can run the fastest on the stairs"

[cunning lagoon]

fastes

[floral furnace]

u

[copper nacelle]

also the game gets boring after o&s

imo

[floral furnace]

same

all my runs end at Ornstein

[cunning lagoon]

no it doesn't that's where the real game begins

[copper nacelle]

i explored lost izalith a bit after that

killed like 2 bosses

[floral furnace]

i think i only did AotA once and the finished the game once, but i have like 6 characters who has beaten OnS

[copper nacelle]

and then died of boredom

i even started an sl1 character

[floral furnace]

it loses the exploration part which is the best one because of linearity

[copper nacelle]

yeah

ds1 has really good exploration and worse combat than the rest

[floral furnace]

tho ymmv some loved the last half

[copper nacelle]

yeah

[floral furnace]

dunno ds1 had poise original joke i know

[copper nacelle]

but

4 direction rolls

etc

[floral furnace]

oh yeah REMASTER still has no omni direction movement

[copper nacelle]

at least imo ds3 really improved on the combat compared to ds1

[cunning lagoon]

yeah

[copper nacelle]

so after the exploration died

it was just

meh combat

[floral furnace]

from what ive read and experienced 2 has the best combat but the worst exploration, IMO

[copper nacelle]

i've heard that 2's combat is either love or hate

it's apparently very different from the others

[floral furnace]

like 2 allows you to DUAL WIELD ZWEIHANDER

[copper nacelle]

more methodical

compared to ds3

which is

yeet i can roll

and roll

and yeet

for 3 years

[floral furnace]

by good you mean you have more weapon choices, cool shit attacks, and stuff like that
by bad you mean it throws too much enemies at your face as ""difficulty""

[civic hare]

i love the spacial interconnected shit going on with the map in ds
stuff like the aqueduct shortcut in the undead burg tower is extremely my shit

[floral furnace]

real shit at some point youre question if youre playing dark souls or dynasty warriors with how much they throw at your face

yeah those are my fav part alek

but late game it loses that tbh

[copper nacelle]

ye

[civic hare]

aw

[copper nacelle]

ds3's big levels have a bunch of connections like that w/in them

but no actual connections between levels

really good level design but worse world design

also ds3 combat is god

[floral furnace]

i think ds3's combat suffered by following bloodbornes principle, being more faster but the problem with this is that it made rolling the status quo until your enemies stop slashing

hence i can see some people joke about it as DS3 being the PC bloodborne port

[copper nacelle]

understandable

i enjoy that part of it

[cunning lagoon]

whats the prepare to die edition

[copper nacelle]

old ds1

[floral furnace]

but its still MILES ahead of 1, tho i heard other opinions from that

yeah

[copper nacelle]

there was ds1, ds1: prepare to die (ds1 + dlc), then ds1 remastered

iirc

[floral furnace]

PtD edition is the PC port of DS

[copper nacelle]

DsFix editiion

[floral furnace]

cuz originally it was for X360 and PS3 only, but they saw people petitioning about it and they replied "ok sure but no promises because we havent made a single pc game in our entire lives"

[cunning lagoon]

This is the true good version of the game.

I feel sorry for those who can only get the "remastered" version which is TERRIBLE, and BROKEN

Dark Souls: Prepare to Die - pretty much a great game in all aspects... sure its got its quirks and cancers, but thats all part of the fun.

If you never played this version nor bought it, im sorry... dont waste your money on the remastered though... its terrible, and its population of players dropped off almost instantly... where as THIS version still hosts a healthy playerbase.

[floral furnace]

and so the port was shit

[cunning lagoon]

[copper nacelle]

if you set it to 60 fps some physics breaks

but 59.9 works

good game

[cunning lagoon]

meat boy completely breaks at >60

[floral furnace]

anddd you cant buy PtD anymore since you can only buy the remaster by default

[copper nacelle]

[floral furnace]

real shit i play in 60 fps ds1 and i never had physics problems

[civic hare]

i'm on ptd with dsfix

[copper nacelle]

same

[floral furnace]

nice

[copper nacelle]

my fps was fine in blighttown too

except for

one section

[cunning lagoon]

so why cant you buy it anymore

[copper nacelle]

when i touch the door to queelag

my fps goes to 1

[floral furnace]

because they delisted it

[copper nacelle]

for like 4 seconds

[floral furnace]

and replaced it with the remaster

[copper nacelle]

and then it's fine again

[cunning lagoon]

ok

[floral furnace]

so people would buy the remaster instead, but you get to keep the og at least

OH that 56

[cunning lagoon]

lame

[floral furnace]

i get that sometimes with the high res texture pack mods

[copper nacelle]

i have like 8 of those

[floral furnace]

iirc i read that the game doesnt use that much ram, so whenever you go to area transitions it has to load the textures

[copper nacelle]

o

makes sense

[floral furnace]

hence the 5 second freezes

then normal

[civic hare]

it's just like lost lord

[floral furnace]

my major fps problem was on the crystal attacks of Seath

Seath the Scaless more like Seath the FPSless ayy gottem

[copper nacelle]

finna

sleep

[floral furnace]

yeah you better run

[cunning lagoon]

where mystreama t

[copper nacelle]

the future

[floral furnace]

dnail 56 to get dream stream

[cunning lagoon]

🤢

[iron crown]

Ask it politely

[ember bloom]

Hollow Knight Remaster

[fair rampart]

whoever made the lost lord mod is satan himself

[iron crown]

But isn't Lost Lord the easiest modded boss

[fair rampart]

oh yeah, mantis gods is a thing

[azure vessel]

cant wait for pale prince

[iron crown]

56 call it pale prince if you want me to personally make sure you stop breathing

[fair rampart]

oh no are there more of these unholy bosses on the way

[iron crown]

Shoutout to infinite Uumuu

[fair rampart]

oh hell no

[flat forum]

56

@copper nacelle

I want a mod that adds 4 more phantom Markoths

hey guys teaser from Super Gorb

[solemn rivet]

Queelag, more like, the real bug waifu

Yeah, I'm late to the party

Why not God Gorb

Gorbd

[flat forum]

I want a mod that triples the Mantis Lords!

[azure vessel]

nice creative ideas

[elfin urchin]

Gradow, Gorb or already is god

[hazy sentinel]

Gorbsonaro

[iron crown]

Gorb

[solemn rivet]

shush veru

[floral furnace]

Gorb, The First Godseeker IMO

[solemn rivet]

Gorbseeker IMO

[hollow pier]

make gorb like expert boc

[fair rampart]

Wait, do I see multiple Gorb in that screenshot?

Or is he just teleporting so fast that he creates an afterimage?

[iron crown]

multiple gorbs

[fair rampart]

I was looking thru the possible ways to trigger an event on an enemy death, and came accrossed this; private void EmitCorpse(float? attackDirection, bool isWatery, bool spellBurn = false) tf is "isWatery"?

[leaden hedge]

should be if they died by falling into a liquid

[fair rampart]

But they don't render the corpse then?

Couldn't they just despawn the corpse when it sinks?

[leaden hedge]

doesnt it emit a splash instead

[fair rampart]

Is that what it does?

I was thinking it made the corpses drip or something.

I thought the splash would be something else

but I guess that makes sense

[leaden hedge]

looks like its used for if you fall into acid and it makes steam

[fair rampart]

is there a way to target a specific enemy with ModHooks.Instance.OnRecieveDeathEventHook += EnemyDied?

[compact sedge]

does that hook even exist?

imo

On.HealthManager.TakeDamage

is the only reliable hook for enemies taking damage

[solemn rivet]

well

take a look at enemyhpbar

see how I get enemies there

[weak lodge]

Henlo

[cunning lagoon]

friendship ended with sanctum now hive is the worst area in the game

[hollow pier]

same

[cunning lagoon]

@weary oyster any tips to get the stupid fat bee to break the waLL without it bumping into every single fucking platform in existence

thanks

[hollow pier]

rng like everything else in the game

[cunning lagoon]

gonna run fucking celeste

hk is pissing me off

im not but jfc this is annoyingf

[weary oyster]

uhh just try to get him to ram between the 2 small platforms in the air

and hope hes not a dickhole

[cunning lagoon]

[weary oyster]

honestly not even sure what i do differently from when i started but eventually it started working out better

[cunning lagoon]

also whats the best way to finish off collector

spam cyclone spam hits or dnail and spam wraiths

[hollow pier]

doesn't ax fluke then ddark

[weary oyster]

6 flukes when hes spawning, dnail the first spawn and 2 ddarks

[hollow pier]

or when he's dead

i think shriek works

[cunning lagoon]

yea i mean when he's dead

[weary oyster]

oh

[hollow pier]

just nail to be tbh

[weary oyster]

just nail hits and if you have soul throw some wraiths in there

[cunning lagoon]

aight thanks

[fair rampart]

        {
            if (global::GameManager.instance.targetScene == "GG_Grimm_Nightmare" && global::PlayerData.instance.gotCharm_40 && global::PlayerData.instance.equippedCharm_2)
            {
                if (global::PlayerData.instance.grimmChildLevel == 4)
                {
                    global::PlayerData.instance.SetInt("grimmChildLevel", 5);
                    eventAlreadyRecieved = true;
                }
                if (global::PlayerData.instance.grimmChildLevel == 5)
                {
                    global::PlayerData.instance.SetInt("grimmChildLevel", 4);
                    eventAlreadyRecieved = true;
                }
            }
            if (global::GameManager.instance.targetScene == "GG_Hollow_Knight" && global::PlayerData.instance.gotCharm_36 && global::PlayerData.instance.equippedCharm_2)
            {
                if (global::PlayerData.instance.royalCharmState == 4)
                {
                    global::PlayerData.instance.SetInt("royalCharmState", 3);
                    eventAlreadyRecieved = true;
                }
                if (global::PlayerData.instance.royalCharmState == 3)
                {
                    global::PlayerData.instance.SetInt("royalCharmState", 4);
                    eventAlreadyRecieved = true;
                }
            }
        }``` this gives me error wrong return type. how do I fix?

ignore the global. dnspy won't let me get rid of it.

[copper nacelle]

dnSpy?

What

[fair rampart]

Is that not what you use to compile stuff?

[copper nacelle]

No

[fair rampart]

...

i am idiot?

[copper nacelle]

Yes

[fair rampart]

VS?

[copper nacelle]

Visual studio yeah

Or Rider

dnSpy is for assembly patching and decompiling

[fair rampart]

That might explain why I get so many errors

[copper nacelle]

[fair rampart]

especially when I turn on "show hidden compiler generated methods"

[copper nacelle]

That's fine

If you're not

Coding in it

which is bad

Won't last between patches, shitty to use, etc

[fair rampart]

how do I make the dll into a vs again?

[copper nacelle]

Export as project iirc

[fair rampart]

YES

DIE GLOBALS

DIE

Wow there are a lot of globals in here

[cunning lagoon]

i just dlkurosh'd 3 times in a row

[dusky lion]

excelente

[fair rampart]

remember, the charge time for cdash is 0.800000011920929 seconds... apparently

according the Knight.txt fsm dump I got from here anyway

[cunning lagoon]

oh i didnt know that

thats pretty cool

[fair rampart]

Its weird, cuz the fsm viewer says 0.8 flat, but the dump shows 0.800000011920929

i guess it can only display the first few decimals

[solemn rivet]

float rounding error

[fair rampart]

ah

cs1001, you are the bane of my existance

        {
            float num = (float)BetterCharms.ShadowDashCD.GetValue(HeroController.instance);
            if (this.isNinja && num <= 0f)
            {
                HeroController.instance.StartCoroutine(BetterCharms.<DashPressed>g__Ninja0_0());
            }
            return false;
        }```

I cannot escape thee

[cunning lagoon]

yooo so we have 2 AAs now

[fair rampart]

Call me AA Jr

[cunning lagoon]

no

do you prefer abyssal or alchemist

[fair rampart]

ok

better?

[cunning lagoon]

pog

[fair rampart]

Aeternalis the Abyssal Alchemist is my steam

I'll just use the first part

[cunning lagoon]

yea i've seen you on the steam forums

[fair rampart]

speaking of steam, mine glitched and all my hk notifications turned into 'message deleted'

on the plus side, the number is no longer in the high double digits

[cunning lagoon]

[fair rampart]

this is the second time it glitched in the past week

the first time i went from 90ish notif to 48

now i'm at 3

Seriously, what wrong with cs1001? why doesn't the error go away when you fix it?

[cunning lagoon]

i actually hate hornet 2

why does she parry spells and why does she empty hop so much

[fair rampart]

Wait wat

She parries spells?

how and why

[cunning lagoon]

she just does

same thing with thk

[fair rampart]

does she parry other dmg sources?

Or just nail and spell

[cunning lagoon]

pretty sure grimmchild still hits her without triggering the parry

so i'd assume she also doesn't parry weaversong and all that crap

[fair rampart]

i thought as much

though the idea of her trying to parry the dcrest stink cloud amuses me

wait what about flukenest?

[cunning lagoon]

flukenest doesn't trigger parries either

at least not on thk

hornet 2 is probably the same

[glacial panther]

flukenest doesn't trigger parries or damage against PV

[fair rampart]

cs0117 'BetterCharms' does not contain a definition for ''

[cunning lagoon]

are you sure about the damage thing

[fair rampart]

i'm sorry wat

[glacial panther]

it damages him during certain animations

[cunning lagoon]

because i do believe it damages thk

can't speak for pv in particular though

[glacial panther]

yeah THK it works fine as far as I know

[fair rampart]

I wasn't aware I had to define something that doesn't exist

[fair rampart]

Okay, I'm down to 1 error

cs0407

[cunning lagoon]

this fucking guy claims he does collector radiant all binds without spells/na and you watch the fuckin video and he's fighting the attuned version of collector

same guy who says absrad is the worst fight in the game btw

[fair rampart]

When he says flies i assume he means the squits

theres no way he means aspids

right?

[cunning lagoon]

it's not even radiant collector

it's the easy enemies

i didn't watch the video but i think he just kills everything that is not a vengefly so collector hits the spawn cap for enemies

[fair rampart]

Oh woops

[cunning lagoon]

which obviously wouldn't work if he was fighting the colosseum enemies

[fair rampart]

I misread attuned as ascended

[hollow pier]

turns out the fight was bugged dude

[fair rampart]

brain fart

[hollow pier]

why are you so mad it was bugged

don't blame him

just a bug

[cunning lagoon]

however you might be able to do something similar by not killing baldurs and hugging the walls

[hollow pier]

you know i think not checking the sub is a very good idea

[cunning lagoon]

but if you are going to put that much effort into cheesing him why not just learn the fight

yeah you are right

[hollow pier]

i've already employed it

[solemn rivet]

there's a better sub anyways

[hollow pier]

r/waifuism

[cunning lagoon]

don't say r/hollowknightmemes or ill crush your skull

[hollow pier]

that's a thing

[solemn rivet]

okay, I won't say it then

[hollow pier]

now i gotta go check it

[solemn rivet]

yeah, ptk, and it's the best subreddit ever

[hollow pier]

[solemn rivet]

it's like

[cunning lagoon]

yeah good memes

[solemn rivet]

r/dankmemes x r/hollwoknight fanfic

[vapid cape]

Doing that with Collector isn't really... feasible

[hollow pier]

ahahaha who did this

[cunning lagoon]

so garbage x garbage

[vapid cape]

I gave it a try and while it WORKS, it's just miserable

[cunning lagoon]

yeah i can imagine th<t

[vapid cape]

the fight lasts 5 years

[cunning lagoon]

also

Yeena is typing...

[solemn rivet]

is this u ptk https://i.redd.it/remcjt6pq2v11.jpg

[hollow pier]

i see forest of bones is a hot topic in this sub

[cunning lagoon]

send it again will ya

[hollow pier]

you know if your meme has more than like fifteen words it's definitely shitty

[solemn rivet]

why is discord stupid

[cunning lagoon]

why would it be discord's fault

you linked the image and sent it

[hollow pier]

surprised the image wasn't deemed explicit

[solemn rivet]

cause it sent it twice

[cunning lagoon]

so it shows up twice

[hollow pier]

sometimes the message doesn't send and the send button still works

so you press send twice when it shouldn't happen

so it's discord's fault

[cunning lagoon]

also why do half the posts in that sub have (challenge) in the title

[solemn rivet]

basically

[hollow pier]

it's a challenge

[cunning lagoon]

??????????????????????????????

[fair rampart]

I am so confused

why THK?

[cunning lagoon]

fuck if i know man

😂 😂

[hollow pier]

because the fight never ends because he has like 600000 hp looool that's a lot

[cunning lagoon]

i think this one is kinda decent

[hollow pier]

xxxxxxxxx

[cunning lagoon]

hey i didn't laugh at it

it's just better than the average post in that sub

[fair rampart]

analysis: its cardboard, Skipper

[cunning lagoon]

hmm same

[hollow pier]

what

[solemn rivet]

dat ant

[cunning lagoon]

real question is

why does gradow like these memes

[solemn rivet]

cause I have the heart of a 13 yo

[hollow pier]

gradow do you actually like these memes

[cunning lagoon]

i think i like the normql sub more than the meme one

that's how much i dislike these memes

[hollow pier]

same tbh

[cunning lagoon]

on the normal one i can at least laugh at people for getting stuck at absrad

[hollow pier]

i think you could post anything in this sub and get like 30 upvotes

[cunning lagoon]

man someone should make a hk server

[hollow pier]

just comment the partnered link

[cunning lagoon]

discord.gg/hollowknight

11.5k

also this is gold

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_vWi0MXCZI

[hollow pier]

wow knowing there are 11.5k members when kuro is a 6k

this hurts

[cunning lagoon]

excuse me

im a 500 but i left and rejoined

[hollow pier]

🤔

[cunning lagoon]

?whois ptkyr

[autumn shard]

Ptkyr#0204

@hollow pier

Status

online

Joined

Fri, Apr 13, 2018 7:47 AM

Join Position

4523

Registered

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ID: 312979597023117312 · Oct 29, 2018, 11:35 PM

[cunning lagoon]

lmao newbie

[hollow pier]

wait it's really 4.5k

damn

i thought it was lower

[solemn rivet]

I didn't even know this subreddit existed until a few days ago

[hollow pier]

should be like 2k i think

[cunning lagoon]

pretty sure you mentioned you left and rejoined a while back

[hollow pier]

no i mean

[solemn rivet]

I don't really dig memes tbh

[hollow pier]

my fake one i thought was lower

[fair rampart]

In response to that video, why did he just stand there while the squit charged at him?

[cunning lagoon]

o

he's a new player

[hollow pier]

yes i am

[cunning lagoon]

The Hornet

[fair rampart]

The fact her name is "Hornet" is weird when you think about it

[hollow pier]

if he can pogo he can beat hornet

[cunning lagoon]

if he can pogo he can beat fungal wastes

can yuo complete the game without pogoing?

pretty sure you can

[fair rampart]

Can you?

[cunning lagoon]

the purple mushrooms are not required

[hollow pier]

no you need spire pogo lol

and explosion pogo

[cunning lagoon]

u right

[hollow pier]

and mantis pogo

even though i missed that

but it's also impossible so

[cunning lagoon]

3 mantis is impossible

[hollow pier]

wtf

[cunning lagoon]

virgin 3 mantis pogo vs chad 2 mantis

could do that for many things in this game actually

[hollow pier]

i do 3 because i kill the mantis

[cunning lagoon]

virgin over the platform vs chad under the plat

[hollow pier]

if i didn't kill him i would do 2

[cunning lagoon]

idc still virgin