#archived-modding-development

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cunning lagoon
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should i put former wr in the title or just remove the word

copper nacelle
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what was the run time btw

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the old one

cunning lagoon
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2:20.84

civic hare
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replace WR with OLD

cunning lagoon
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new one is 2:17.04

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that .04 stings GWbratWhy

copper nacelle
cunning lagoon
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.09 sorry

copper nacelle
cunning lagoon
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insane pace

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make it transparent imo or its gonna be unwatchable

copper nacelle
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it's transparent in obs

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iirc

cunning lagoon
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ok

copper nacelle
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why did i have a vs split and a hornet split

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top 10 questions humanity can't answer

cunning lagoon
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what

hollow pier
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what

copper nacelle
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i had vs and hornet both in the autosplitter

cunning lagoon
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why does 56 think having a vs split and a hornet split is weird

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top 10 questions humanity can't answer

hollow pier
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hmmmmm

copper nacelle
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wait

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you ever forget sanity

hollow pier
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i hate having a vothwing sloak split

copper nacelle
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same

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you ever forget a resting grounds split

cunning lagoon
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shit

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i submitted my pop time as wp

copper nacelle
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ascended

cunning lagoon
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@zinc berry help

hollow pier
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godlike

cunning lagoon
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how do i fix this

hollow pier
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technically it is wp

cunning lagoon
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can mopds just move them around

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or do i submit it again and delete the other one

zinc berry
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yeah 1s

cunning lagoon
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phew

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thanks

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dont say it ptkyr

hollow pier
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yeah .04s

civic hare
zinc berry
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I didn't even notice you submitted the wrong category lol

cunning lagoon
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lmao

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sorry for the inconvenience

copper nacelle
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why does acrid not have a fake bench thingy split

hollow pier
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it splits after you break out fun fact

cunning lagoon
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pretty sure he does

mortal trout
copper nacelle
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shit u right

hollow pier
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do i comment bruh you god on his video

copper nacelle
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@ornate rivet die

cunning lagoon
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whats up with the hotdog

mortal trout
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no because I already did

ornate rivet
copper nacelle
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don't bs

hollow pier
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the hot dog is a good emote

copper nacelle
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pinging me in art gallery

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and discussion

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die

ornate rivet
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ahhhhhhhh

cunning lagoon
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@no one

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what

copper nacelle
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u

cunning lagoon
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i dont get it

hollow pier
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@no one

cunning lagoon
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when is stream

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ok i guess never i ll just go to sleep

copper nacelle
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soon

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tm

cunning lagoon
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its been SOON for TOO LONG ๐Ÿ˜ก

copper nacelle
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i haven't even finished splits

cunning lagoon
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why would you finish the

hollow pier
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if you just deleted acrid

cunning lagoon
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if you jsut deleted yourself

copper nacelle
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i forgot greenpath

azure vessel
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go sleep

cunning lagoon
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no i just want 56 to stream

azure vessel
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sleep and watch stream later

hollow pier
cunning lagoon
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why would i watch the stream later

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the fun part is shittalking him in real time

azure vessel
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true

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why am i telling u to sleep anyways

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its 2 am at my time

cunning lagoon
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dash go to sleep

azure vessel
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no i still have like 2 hrs

copper nacelle
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also if i do a run rn i'll just die to wk

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and then 8 cycle uumuu

cunning lagoon
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thats the kind of content i expect

copper nacelle
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h

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should i do a run like that

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i mean i can

cunning lagoon
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yes

copper nacelle
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ok

cunning lagoon
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do no resets

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especially when starting out

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who cares if you lose 2 seconds to a suboptimal aspid arena

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when you have minutes of timesave everywhere else

copper nacelle
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ok stream

cunning lagoon
azure vessel
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choose a color

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u can have a custom color with twitch prime

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for 4.99$ a month

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buy it now!

civic hare
vapid cape
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Oh, now you're just challenging me.

ornate rivet
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what is this

corpse.RemoveAction("Init", 9);
corpse.RemoveAction("Init", 1);
corpse.ChangeTransition("Pause", "FINISHED", "BG Open");
corpse.AddAction("Pause", corpse.GetAction<Tk2dPlayAnimation>("Blow", 9));```
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@copper nacelle

ember bloom
ornate rivet
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looks hot

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@civic hare
Your code is documented much better than 56's, good job

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and thank you

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Aeraloth, how long did it take you to fix all the knight's sprites

copper nacelle
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die

cunning lagoon
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like u to explosion pogo ๐Ÿ˜ฉ ๐Ÿ‘Œ

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like u to hornet*

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like u to a zombie*

ornate rivet
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why so hurtful today 56?

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you've told me to die twice now sadgrub

dusky lion
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56 is a man of one word/letter response

cunning lagoon
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u

dusky lion
copper nacelle
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@ornate rivet die

cunning lagoon
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h

ornate rivet
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no u

dusky lion
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@copper nacelle dont die

copper nacelle
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no

ornate rivet
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I already did

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if I die does that mean I won't have to procrastinate any more homework?

weak lodge
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How much times has 56 said โ€œnoโ€ thinkgrub

ornate rivet
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5258 times

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I am more worried that he has said die 863 times

weak lodge
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I see

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how about โ€œuโ€

copper nacelle
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die

ornate rivet
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2714

weak lodge
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56 how do you expect me to die

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When Iโ€™m already dead

dusky lion
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.

weak lodge
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Do I die again

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?

mortal trout
dusky lion
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Wow that's more than double the amount of times I've said gay

ornate rivet
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wow I've only said gay 26 times

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I am pure

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either that or I am racist

runic skiff
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Yo what is there was a mod that turned Vengeful Spirit into a lashing tentacle

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if*

ornate rivet
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how would it be better than upgraded fireball (besides looking cooler)?

dusky lion
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what if there was a mod that added forest of bones and was hornet dlc

runic skiff
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Mainly itd just add variety

ornate rivet
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also who would draw the animation for the knights

dusky lion
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and also delayed hollow knight 2

weak lodge
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Wish there was a mod that changed your nail into a lance and modified charms

runic skiff
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there's already at least one boss attack of that sort so

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if it could be ripped and resized a bit, it might work

ornate rivet
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yea but how would it come out of the knight

weak lodge
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Wish there was a mod that made mantis Lords harder, you guys should make it tbh

runic skiff
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Just use the same animation as upgraded vengeful spirit

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for the knight himself

dusky lion
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wish there was a mod that made scary-dream lord grim infinite and gradually sped up as and recorded your damage at the end and had a hard mode

weak lodge
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Damn everyone forgets shade soul

runic skiff
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shade soul, that's the name

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anyway just use the knight's animation for shade soul and replace the projectile with a tentacle

weak lodge
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;)

runic skiff
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higher damage, but lower range

weak lodge
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So flukenest?

runic skiff
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shit I forgot about that

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uhh

weak lodge
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or I mean you can rip part of the pure vessel sprite

runic skiff
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maybe flukenest overwrites the tentacle attack?

weak lodge
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He does the exact attack

ember bloom
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Mega Gay

runic skiff
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yeah thats what I was referring to before but i didnt want to drop his name because it's a spoiler

weak lodge
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Add it to pure knight imo

civic hare
weak lodge
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I see

frigid gale
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mhm

mortal trout
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gonna try out ultrad tomorrow

civic hare
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The next update after this will probably buff her health in ascended/radiant, so nowโ€™s the best time to get an easy radiant kill zote

ember bloom
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"i did pre nerft ultrarad fug off"

cunning lagoon
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that changelog looks sexy

dusky lion
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Stylus font formatted to 5 bullet points ๐Ÿ˜ฉ

ornate rivet
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where is modlog.txt located

copper nacelle
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die

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saves

ornate rivet
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I cant find a folder named die

cunning lagoon
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i'ts ok saleh i'll help you out man

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go to %APPDATA%\..\LocalLow\Team Cherry\Hollow Knight\

dusky lion
cunning lagoon
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it's there

ornate rivet
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thanks kurosh but it was pinned already

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[ERROR]:[API] - Couldn't check for new version.System.IndexOutOfRangeException: Array index is out of range.```
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why

hollow pier
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arrays start at 1

ornate rivet
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?

hazy sentinel
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test

cunning lagoon
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verulean what

hollow pier
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i like it

native wing
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whats veruleans pfp

mortal trout
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veru it looks cool

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but

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what is it

cunning lagoon
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finnish dreamshield

native wing
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mmmmmh

weary oyster
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wtf verulean

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let it die

ornate rivet
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so the mod I made wouldn't work when I created my own project but it works when I replace an already existing project

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why is that the case?

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if someone knows why then pls ping me because I am going to bed good night

cunning lagoon
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@ornate rivet

floral furnace
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probably missing references?

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im guessing your new project didnt have them unlike the existing one

weary oyster
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why is your pic a taco but sans but the knight

floral furnace
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uhhh

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yes

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youre about to have a bad day kiddo

cunning lagoon
hazy sentinel
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pfp when

cunning lagoon
weary oyster
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i told you you needed the clickbait title

hazy sentinel
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i think i deserve my dlkurse deleted for that

weary oyster
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like what the fuck is impressive about all radiant bosses when the dlc is out for 2 months already

floral furnace
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shouldve mentioned "my girlfriends and i just started our anniversery so we decided to beat the WR speedrun for PoP"

hazy sentinel
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girlfriends

floral furnace
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i mean, if youre a true player hollowlenny

hollow pier
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what the fuck is impressive about doing pop fast when it's been out for a year

cunning lagoon
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this tbh

weary oyster
floral furnace
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shouldve added a throwaway fanart too

weary oyster
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get sub 2:10 with tas, then i'll be impressed

dusky lion
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ttacco delete your pfp thanks

floral furnace
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no

astral swift
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Random question

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Was it possible for ultrad to have made the last platform at the end disappear entirely? And only come back briefly if you fell into the pit, ala the air sections of Collosseum of fools

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Or was that just a limitation that they had to deal with at the time

cunning lagoon
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dont mind me i need the link

compact sedge
ember bloom
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Is that Jojo reference

civic hare
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@astral swift I probably couldโ€™ve but I didnโ€™t feel like it

astral swift
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Don't get me wrong, I think a lot of the stuff you did in that was pretty cool, but I was pretty disappointed it didn't go all the way at the end

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absrad's "beats" were largely inferior to the normal version of that boss because of the extra phase

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But taking that and instead moving the feeling of it being utterly cornered and unable to do shit about you no matter how hard it tries, how hard it flails out of the cutscene into actual gameplay?

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That would have justified it easily, and I had wondered if ultrad was going to do that

vapid cape
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I like the platform being there just because pogoing radiance in exclusivity sucks ass. She can pretty easily drop you and 90% of the time you're totally offscreen and it looks stupid.

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having that platform to pogo on is good.

astral swift
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Eh, fair

floral iris
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Dream fight with dashmaster, who wants it?

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you've gotta race him to a finish line while he throws attack at you

glacial panther
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dream fight with dashmaster where it's just a worse version of pale lurker

vagrant leaf
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dream fight of pale lurker

dusky lion
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oh god is pale lurker in hall of gods

vagrant leaf
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modders put pale lurker in hall of gods pls

dusky lion
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dont

vagrant leaf
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add him to third pantheon

hazy sentinel
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pale lurker in PoP

cunning lagoon
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pale lurker in a hidden room behind the colosseum of fools

vagrant leaf
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that's a shitty idea

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@copper nacelle hive knight buff

cunning lagoon
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@copper nacelle qga nerf

vagrant leaf
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nerf flukemarm

glacial panther
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I think a hive knight buff would be interesting

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bee vomit now spawns 3 bees at a time

vagrant leaf
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56 has said he will make it

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after pv

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he's been talking about it since lifeblood came out to be h

trim totem
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replace bee vomit with cg lasers

hazy sentinel
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replace every bee with an absrad laser sweep

glacial panther
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replace pollen spikes with abs rad lasers

trim totem
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this but unironically

glacial panther
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what makes you think I was being ironic

vagrant leaf
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u ever realize hive knight would be a good difficulty for his point in the game if they just removed the stupid gaps between his attacks and gave him more health

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you can heal between almost all attacks

copper nacelle
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if he didn't stagger

trim totem
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just do him no jump lol

copper nacelle
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had less time between attacks

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and did 3 damage

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he'd be pretty good

glacial panther
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tbh stagger is hive knight's hardest attack

vagrant leaf
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he needs to be more oppressive in general

glacial panther
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every time he attacks above me I get hit by his stagger

copper nacelle
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nice idea

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air dash => quick fall

ember bloom
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Nail Arts , No Abilities PV is dog shit

vagrant leaf
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make pollen spikes continuously appear in the center of the arena

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when he's not doing bee rain

glacial panther
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make his jump create a shockwave

trim totem
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56 are you still streaming

vagrant leaf
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56 stream hunter

copper nacelle
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what if i spawn double the bee rain so the only way to dodge stuff is to parry it

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and then i make other stuff parriable

vagrant leaf
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56

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no

hazy sentinel
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bee rain every time you take damage

dusky lion
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bee rain every time you dont have wayward compass equipped

vagrant leaf
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56 replace hive knight with radiant absrad

dusky lion
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or do it ngg style

trim totem
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make the bees parryable

vagrant leaf
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just put absrad in hive knight's arena

dusky lion
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where it just comes periodically outsourced of the attack that spawns it itself

cunning lagoon
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@trim totem 56 stopped streaming because qga is too hard for him ๐Ÿ™‚

trim totem
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56 continue streaming

vagrant leaf
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56 make it so fast that by the time he starts roaring you're already dead because it's so fast causality can't keep up

dusky lion
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56 make it kill you

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but if you die in the game you die in real life

hazy sentinel
trim totem
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b

vagrant leaf
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make it require grimmchild

cunning lagoon
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ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooof

copper nacelle
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u

trim totem
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me

copper nacelle
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no

trim totem
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me

copper nacelle
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no u

ember bloom
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u both gay

copper nacelle
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u

dusky lion
copper nacelle
trim totem
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me

copper nacelle
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ok

ember bloom
cunning lagoon
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top 10 anime battles

copper nacelle
ember bloom
cunning lagoon
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aeraloth its 5am

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go to sleep

ember bloom
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No

copper nacelle
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kurosh it's 5:09 am

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sleep

cunning lagoon
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good point

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i will

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adios

copper nacelle
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wow nice

ember bloom
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Bueno

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๐Ÿ“ธ

trim totem
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i slept at 3

trim totem
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56 stream

compact sedge
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Hey @trim totem, ima take your advice

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watch this.

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Hey @thorn comet. Ya know. I'm not a perfect person. I make a lot of mistakes and I often speak my mind where I shouldn't, and joke about things I probably shouldn't joke about. I make dumb meme mods literally about/for one person.

But at the end of the day. I just wanna make #archived-modding-development a better place, and more importantly, make Hollow Knight modding better for other people. I've spoken a lot in it. In fact about 10% of all messages in the entire history of the channel are mine. I've created a special place for hosting the api and installer and modcommon so that modding developers can track the download stats on this. I've created a dedicated place for KDT to host their guide. I've added classes to modcommon to make mod development easier. I've worked with Gradow on the API itself to fix a few of its nastier bugs.

I can't promise if you choose, and I fully understand this is at your discretion, to give me the modder role I will be able to instantly change everything for the better. But I can say two things. 1) I won't blow anything up. I care waaay too much about our little modding community to want to hurt things and more importantly, while I may be brash with my words. I am infinitely careful with power. As they say:

#1) Respect the privacy of others.
#2) Think before you type.
#3) With great power comes great responsibility.

And I can promise I will follow two of these to the letter.

  1. If there is any way I see that I can help our modding community, I will be more empowered to do so. I will have the resources to communicate with the other modding mods about any ideas I might have in private as well as the power to enact minor change when it's agreed upon. When someone posts a link to a useful resource I will be there to pin it.
dusky lion
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is avenging finally going to get modder role

compact sedge
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eh probably not but it's worth a shot

dusky lion
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if you dont i will make ascended god gorb

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except i have to change the name because i accidentally predicted Godmaster

trim totem
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nice essay

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And I can promise I will follow two of these to the letter.

compact sedge
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Well I'm not gonna lie

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I definitely don't think before I type. If there's one reason I don't deserve any power it's because of that

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I'm not gonna tell anyone to jump off a bridge

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but I will say stupid things like that I think simo doesn't trust me

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when realistically if I were a better person

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Mys would still be mod

dusky lion
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avenging

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i will rejoin hallownest and stay there if you dont get modder role

compact sedge
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yes I do blame myself for it. I know it wasn't all me but goddamn it I do blame myself

trim totem
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chill

compact sedge
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@dusky lion don't fuckn join hallownest for me. If you don't like it and it has nothing to offer you then I don't want your life to be even one ounce less convenient because of me. It's cool. I understand. it's a niche and it's not one that you might fit into. You've made your own damn server so you should know well what you like and don't like. Don't punish yourself on my behalf or if you do do it for a worthier cause than a role in a discord server.

dusky lion
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its a discord server not a declaration of war

compact sedge
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yeah but you have your community here and they (presumably, I haven't been very active in #hk-discussion recently) care very much about you and you them so I say embrace it.

copper nacelle
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why does the API have bool values and int values when it uses json util but saves have actual stuff

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like x: 2

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instead of int values: keys: x, values: 2

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it sucks

compact sedge
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because the API save file code isn't using any of the game's code for saving stuff

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it's using its own custom code

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that I stole for angle integration

copper nacelle
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but it uses json utility

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doesn't it

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The same thing the game uses on save game data

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Which is just pd + scenedata

compact sedge
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TGlobalSettings

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is I believe a thing in the api

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but not the vanilla game

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JsonUtility is just a way to write objects to json files

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and TGlobalSettings only has four things. bool, string, int, float values

copper nacelle
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yeah but shouldn't they serialize similarly

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when using the same serializer

compact sedge
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I mean ur github is the one with the api that's on the drive on it

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so uh if you wanna change anything you don't even need to send a pr

copper nacelle
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you're not wrong

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idk why too

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I submitted a pr to the actual repo

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maybe because it has properties and not fields

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Would just using fields in your settings class even work

compact sedge
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uhhh

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don't ask

copper nacelle
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alright

compact sedge
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I mean

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uh

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it's a thing that we aren't using github for because my other team members dunno how to git

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so we're using unity's collaboration thing

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which sucks ass

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limited to 3 people

copper nacelle
compact sedge
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and I made some very stupid gameobjects for the game but it's very much work in progress til we have an idea what we're doing

copper nacelle
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I made my cs foundations partner use GitHub to collab

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he can now fix merges

compact sedge
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well this is for a student club and I'm the only coder on my team

copper nacelle
compact sedge
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if u want my.... totalllllly amazing source code for it tho I could make a git repo for the assembly csharp maybe

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idk

copper nacelle
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woke

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also I found out why settings is the way it is

dusky lion
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how much do i have to pay you to never use // notes

compact sedge
dusky lion
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on that unity project

compact sedge
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oh don't worry

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I already don't

copper nacelle
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It's because mod settings are put into save game data

dusky lion
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dont let anyone else read it

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its off limits

copper nacelle
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As a dictionary

dusky lion
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deflect them away with the power of var not variable

copper nacelle
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Also those are called comments

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finch pls

dusky lion
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u

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notes sounds better

compact sedge
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also thanks kate for the spell checker dunno waht I'd do without you

dusky lion
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not be able to spell check or have red underline under things

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ez

compact sedge
copper nacelle
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why the else

compact sedge
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idk why not

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same as putting if

copper nacelle
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why not just if (x || y || z || a)

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instead of if (x || y) return yeet; if (z || a) return yeet;

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also my auto correct tried to correct yeet to great about 6 times

compact sedge
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what so convert my massive switch into a massive if statement?

copper nacelle
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no

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make the two ifs into 1

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and then do that to all of the ifs that can do

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that

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and then make those into when statements and make the default 1

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and then make it bitwise constants

compact sedge
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because that would be good code

copper nacelle
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Yes

compact sedge
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I'm not writing good code. I'm writing code my small mind is capible of producing quickly.

copper nacelle
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They all return 1 at the end so just drop that to default and you can collapse the ifs into whens

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oh

compact sedge
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see the smart way of doing it is if I ordered my enum so the counters would always be after the countered by

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and then

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take advantage of that order and do a simple < or > check

copper nacelle
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yes

compact sedge
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but I knew that would be the smart way when I wrote this code

copper nacelle
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if you make it bitwise you can do that and abuse bitwise

compact sedge
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and I didn't wanna think about the bitwise things in my head. I wanted it written and done in 3 minutes

copper nacelle
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understandable

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(BindingFlags) int.MaxValue

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I think -1 might work too

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I think I know how to do settings without the dicts (as another option so it doesn't break mods ofc)

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global settings should be easy at least

trim totem
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got o sleep

copper nacelle
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I really should

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Wait can't you just put fields in settings and not use the dicts or am I dumb

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cause primitives are all serializable and stuff

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I'll try it in the morning

azure vessel
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?rank racer

autumn shardBOT
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@azure vessel, you left Racer.

floral furnace
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~~why am i getting false memories that theres a shroom bounce method for horizontal movements GWchadMEGATHINK ~~

exotic venture
#

eldergun when

floral furnace
#

CP3

ember bloom
#

Can you rush B

azure vessel
#

๐Ÿ…ฑ๏ธirthmouth

trim totem
#

what's happening in this gif

floral furnace
#

supposedly when you charge and shoot below it should propel you upwards (like a boost or someshit) i just forgot to set it to down attack only

azure vessel
#

recoil doesnt make u fly

floral furnace
azure vessel
#

kool

floral furnace
#

unfortunately im just abusing the recoilleft/recoilright methods in the herocontroller so it looks too snappy/fast

#

ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

azure vessel
#

dont abuse it

#

๐Ÿ˜ก

floral furnace
#

too late

#

๐Ÿ˜ฉ

azure vessel
trim totem
#

this looks pretty good dude

floral furnace
#

still needs alot of improvements tho

#

but thx

native wing
#

shoot elderbug

cunning lagoon
#

why do we do it like that

#

because its a loading screen?

hollow pier
#

yes

#

gives an accurate measure for when to stop the timer

cunning lagoon
#

Perfect

#

i shall tell him that

#

We use a loadless timer to time our runs (that way people with better computers don't have an unfair advantage on the leaderboards). The timer is stopped after the cutscene because there's a loading screen there, so stopping it there is the best way to make sure the timer is accurate.

#

is this fine

#

im gonna post this imo

#

pete help

#

is this fine

#

whatever i clicked send

#

who cares

hollow pier
#

no it's garbage why would you ever send that

cunning lagoon
#

is it

hollow pier
#

no it's sarcasm why would you ever detect that

cunning lagoon
#

ok

#

๐Ÿ˜ƒ

#

ah i forgot a word

#

welp

hollow pier
#

pretty much everyone can beat ngg

cunning lagoon
#

ok go beat him

#

fixed it kinda

copper nacelle
#

pain

cunning lagoon
#

๐Ÿ™‚

copper nacelle
cunning lagoon
#

do the wingmoulds have a 2:17.09

#

didnt think so

copper nacelle
#

does the acid have a terrible half finished run

#

Didn't think so

leaden hedge
#

theres nothing grammatically wrong with thought to be unbeatable by most ๐Ÿค”

cunning lagoon
#

oh

#

thats even better then

hollow pier
#

dlkurosh you must believe in yourself

cunning lagoon
#

na

azure vessel
#

i saw that reddit comment and couldnt be bothered to reply

floral furnace
#

boycott team cherry until hollow knight multiplayer comes out

cunning lagoon
#

Taco we already have dreamshield coop

#

WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANT

floral furnace
#

Oh shit im sorry ๐Ÿ˜”

#

but Dreamshield Coop has no Vbucks integration

cunning lagoon
#

@weary oyster may i get some 106 splits please tyvm

azure vessel
#

multiplayer should be able to pogo on each other

floral furnace
#

yeah and Superforge can finally make his "TOP 5 SKIPS AND TRICKS IN MULTIPLAYER HOLLOW KNIGHT"

azure vessel
#

NUMBER 15 YOU CAN POGO WITH UR FRIEND TO HOWLING CLIFFS

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TO GET THAT JUICY GRIMM TROUPE

hollow pier
#

asking ax for splits

#

get ready for a 6gb file

cunning lagoon
#

pete when are we playing terraria

hollow pier
#

idk

floral furnace
#

calamity mod

cunning lagoon
#

sasns from undertale

cunning lagoon
#

i just got 3 parries in a row, an attack, then 6 parries in a row

#

isnt thk a wonderful boss

copper nacelle
#

๐Ÿ˜ฉ

cunning lagoon
#

man

hollow pier
#

are you hitting his parries

cunning lagoon
#

no

hollow pier
#

hmmm

cunning lagoon
#

unless i hit them accidentally in which case yes

#

trinomi told me that hitting them was a dps loss or some shit like that

#

i dont remember

copper nacelle
#

but is it as rng as low jump v e n g e f l i e s

cunning lagoon
#

no

#

also i see that you forgot a word there ๐Ÿ‘€

hollow pier
#

hitting them super early is ok

cunning lagoon
#

ok

#

๐Ÿ™‚

weary oyster
cunning lagoon
#

thanks dad

weary oyster
flat forum
#

I feel betrayed

cunning lagoon
weary oyster
#

tfw the post of the guy killing all radiant bosses has 1300 upvotes

#

end me

cunning lagoon
#

yo ptkyr you lied to me

#

wait no

#

is dropping down at the beginning of thew dnail platforming section faster

#

ax

weary oyster
#

yea about 1 second loadless

#

it makes the moth spawn in 5 seconds instead of 10

cunning lagoon
#

ptkyr told me it was 1 rta second faster and no difference igt GWbratWhy

weary oyster
#

lol trusting ptkyr in 2018

hollow pier
#

rta = igt

cunning lagoon
#

shut up i cant trust you anymore

#

what if attacking thk's parries is slower GWbratWhy

copper nacelle
hollow pier
#

it is

#

but not if you hit them early

cunning lagoon
#

thats what you said about the dnail drop

weary oyster
#

no you basically always want to avoid hitting hk parries

#

if you can

cunning lagoon
#

sorry i have to second guess everything you say

hollow pier
#

dnail drop is useless

cunning lagoon
#

you are useless

hollow pier
#

u

cunning lagoon
#

how do you learn the stags in 106

#

do you use the map or do you have some sick ass trick like the any% one

hollow pier
#

map

#

or just know

cunning lagoon
hazy sentinel
#

learn mandarin

cunning lagoon
#

ill just run english

hollow pier
#

hmmmm

cunning lagoon
#

on english

hazy sentinel
#

run spanish

cunning lagoon
#

isnt spanish slower

copper nacelle
#

run FastText

hollow pier
#

donde esta la speed

weary oyster
#

idk i just learned how many times i have to press at every spot

cunning lagoon
#

that sounds like hell

weary oyster
#

ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

#

you do just kinda learn the order as you go

cunning lagoon
#

hmm ok

weary oyster
#

you only buy like half of them anyway

cunning lagoon
#

ill probably end up using the map tbh

hollow pier
#

hidden station :)))))

weary oyster
#

yea ik a lot of people go by the map

#

but thats slow

cunning lagoon
#

understandable

#

i guess ill have to learn mandarin

hazy sentinel
#

just fc the game 50 times and internalize the station list order

cunning lagoon
#

what does fc stand for

hazy sentinel
#

fifth cedilla

cunning lagoon
#

i take offense to that

hollow pier
#

failed champion

cunning lagoon
#

full combo?

hollow pier
#

almost got it

cunning lagoon
#

idk

#

help

#

what is it

hollow pier
#

clear

cunning lagoon
#

oh

#

ofc

hollow pier
#

ofullclear

cunning lagoon
#

also of course should be oc and not ofc

#

Of Course OC

hollow pier
#

obv

cunning lagoon
#

O F Course OFC

hollow pier
#

D L Kurosh DLK

cunning lagoon
#

same

copper nacelle
#

P T Kyr PTK

cunning lagoon
#

real shit what does ptkyr stand for

#

is it pete kyr

copper nacelle
#

It's split on his channel iirc

#

To like Pt Kyr

hollow pier
#

5 6 fifty six CANNOT DNAIL

cunning lagoon
#

is it peet or pee tee

copper nacelle
#

with a maggot avatar

cunning lagoon
#

just ddark lol

copper nacelle
#

ยฑ

cunning lagoon
#

cg2 used to do 1 contact damage instead of 2?

copper nacelle
#

ยฑโˆš2/2

#

Sounds like something TC would do tbh

cunning lagoon
#

i'd ask pt kyr but he can't be trusted anymore

copper nacelle
hollow pier
#

ok time to lie to kuro 50% of the time

cunning lagoon
#

havent you been doing that all this time

hollow pier
#

no

#

yes

cunning lagoon
#

this but unironically

hollow pier
#

yes

cunning lagoon
#

is a quadruple hit possible

#

with shade soul

copper nacelle
#

Yeah just get 4 crawlids to stand in a row

cunning lagoon
#

i mean what

copper nacelle
#

Couldn't you get two double hits on both watcher knights

cunning lagoon
#

im actually laughing so much at that

#

no i mean 4 hits on an enemy

hollow pier
#

edit it back i wasn't here

cunning lagoon
#

its not even funny

hollow pier
#

i got quad hits on cp

#

only triples on 1221

cunning lagoon
#

in which area of crystal peak

hollow pier
#

hmmmm

cunning lagoon
#

do you get 4 on a single knight

hollow pier
#

yes

cunning lagoon
#

doubt

hollow pier
#

i think the roll is slightly different

cunning lagoon
#

cp confirmed optimal patch

#

im pissed that 112% is a main category and 106% is a misc cat

weary oyster
#

PepeHands

river eagle
#

also uh

#

does anyone here know how to compile cpython stuff?

cunning lagoon
#

just do the thing

#

@copper nacelle

river eagle
#

He just left for classes GWchadThink

#

so next target..

#

@compact sedge halp

cunning lagoon
#

@solemn rivet

river eagle
#

@๐–พveryone help

cunning lagoon
#

<@&328354344313421825> help

#

maybe this helps

river eagle
cunning lagoon
#

Hmmm I see

river eagle
#

doesn't say complete or anything like that

cunning lagoon
#

that seems to be the case yes

compact sedge
#

I just got back from classes reee

#

uhhh

#

are you building using WSL and copying it over?

#

I would compile on the remote machine imo

river eagle
#

I'm using a docker container

#

Rhel7

compact sedge
#

isn't it called cython

#

or am I wrong

river eagle
#

So at this point i've succesfully cloned cpython

#

and did ./configure --with-pydebug

#

but then it gets stuck on creating Makefile

compact sedge
#

or am I wrong?

river eagle
#

doesn't say complete or anything?

#

it's cpython

compact sedge
#

oh it's a different thing

#

wow til there's more than one python -> c things

river eagle
#

anyways, do you know if it's supposed to stop there?

#

currently on step 1.3.1

compact sedge
#

lemme git clone it. I've never used anything but cython tbh

river eagle
compact sedge
#

this is wsl?

#

or cygwin

#

or what

river eagle
#

Docker

compact sedge
#

what distro?

river eagle
#

rhel7

compact sedge
#

you need these

#

or something like this

river eagle
#

I've already got centos

compact sedge
#

sudo yum group install "Development Tools"

#

to pull in gcc/make, etc

#

the compiler toolchain requires bootstrapping so you cannot compile it locally and just use that because it requires a compiler to compile which is the chicken and egg problem

#

so you do need to preinstall it.

#

anyway I'm running ./configure to see if it works for me

river eagle
#

alright hold on

#

I already have gcc and git installed

#

and centos

compact sedge
river eagle
#

could I just yum install make -y

compact sedge
#

no, pull in the entire development tools group so you also have tools like autoconf etc

#

if you don't have make then the fact is you don't know what you are missing

river eagle
#

I already have the other stuff I need though

compact sedge
#

you don't know that

river eagle
#

alright well then

#

also sudo doesn't seem to work on powershell lol

compact sedge
#

try groupinstall

#

all one word

river eagle
#

oh wait it's trying to look for a mirror now

#

maybe it did work

#

still looking

compact sedge
#

also the thing says to do yum --setopt=group_package_types=mandatory,default,optional groupinstall "Development Tools" which idk if you need to or not. I'm just confused because you said you're using powershell but it says bash.

#

if sudo doesn't work it means either 1) you are already root, which I guess you would be for the docker container. 2) sudo isn't installed. also probably likely

#

no reason to have sudo if you are just gonna run everything as root

river eagle
#

I'm running rhel7 bash on powershell hollowwoke

compact sedge
#

...ok I'm not even gonna question it. I know so little about WSL/docker

river eagle
#

alright well now it's installing a bunch of stuff

#

81 in total

compact sedge
#

but I guess this is like a VM then?

river eagle
#

it's like a vm, but better

compact sedge
#

I mean I personally consider kvm to be perfect but sure I'll take your word for it.

#

ok but ur host os is windows, your host libraries/bins are windows libraries/bins so they aren't sharing anything with that.

#

it would only matter if you had multiple docker instances on that one machine.

river eagle
#

well this works and that's what matters

compact sedge
#

me_irl!

river eagle
#

yet it doesn't go any further

compact sedge
#

alright once it's done creating the makefile

#

you should be able to do make -j 4

river eagle
#

so should I like wait?

compact sedge
#

no it finished creating the makefile

#

that's why you see bash-4.2#

#

it means the command finished

river eagle
#

k

compact sedge
#

and you can enter a new one.

river eagle
#

something

compact sedge
#

you need to install openssl

#

yum install openssl

#

in theory

#

it might say it's already installed and up to date

#

and if so then you will have discovered the reason why I absolutely hate and never use RHEL/cent OS

#

hopefully not tho

river eagle
#

what would you use then rather?

compact sedge
#

(I mean radiance.host is running on gentoo but I would recommend debian)

#

or ubuntu

river eagle
#

well it's too bad the server is rhel

compact sedge
#

h

#

is the server running that version of cpython?

river eagle
#

uh oh

compact sedge
#

you might need an older version that works with the older version of openssl.

river eagle
#

how can I check if it's running it?

compact sedge
#

python --version on the server

#

or maybe just on your container

river eagle
#

on the server

#

2.7.5

#

on the container

#

3.7

compact sedge
#

oh 2.7.5

#

that's

#

5 years old

#

gimme a sec

#

I'll get u the right version of cpython

#

3rd one on this page

#

also make sure you install python 2 on your docker image

#

and also check what version that is

#

actually before you download cpython 2.7.5 do that

cunning lagoon
#

you can dnail goams!?!?!?

compact sedge
#

maybe try python2 --version @river eagle

#

it probably is already installed but invoked with a different name

river eagle
#

hold on I'll have to go

#

I'll be back

#

soon

compact sedge
#

h

#

ping me when ur back

river eagle
#

k

cunning lagoon
#

also angle i can check redwing out tomorrow

compact sedge
#

thanks dl

mortal trout
#

I played redwing when it was stupidly broken iirc

compact sedge
#

it has always been stupidly broken. only in this new alpha are some changes that make stuff less dumb

mortal trout
#

huh, I'll check it out as well then

wild stirrup
#

Hollow knight players too op

river eagle
#

@compact sedge alright I be back

compact sedge
#

ayyy it actually had an openssl package?

#

well uh

river eagle
compact sedge
#

2k doesn't have that

#

but at any rate

river eagle
#

god damnit

compact sedge
#

you wanna use the version of cpython that is the same as the version of the python on remote imo

#

so go download that old-ass one

river eagle
#

it's just that for some reason 56 wanted me to get this version

#

maybe he has something on mind?

#

or forgot that the server is running 2.7.5

compact sedge
#

I just want to be sure that the libraries it links against are the same as the ones on the server ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

river eagle
#

and yeah the dir is pretty strange I know

#

I accidentally installed it there

compact sedge
#

can you uh do for me python2 --version on your local docker thingy?

river eagle
compact sedge
#

ok yeah I'd get cpython 2.7.5 then

#

just wget that tar.gz file

#

on the github

#

and untar it

river eagle
#

so do I uninstall the cpython I have now

compact sedge
#

it isn't installed. the make failed

#

but yeah you can delete the half-compiled one

river eagle
#

so I'll just rm cpython.git

compact sedge
#

rm -r if it's a folder

#

and uh after wgetting it just tar xf cpthon.2.7.5.tar.gz or w/e
./configure
make -j4
make install
should work

#

maybe

river eagle
compact sedge
#

yeah you can delete that whole folder

#

cd ..

#

rm -r cpython

river eagle
#

gone in the wind

#

also I'm using yum for pulling stuff

copper nacelle
#

no stop

#

โŒ

#

@river eagle clone the new one again

#

@compact sedge can't run 2.x for async code

#

Need 3.6+

#

And I'd have Hal just use a binary I compiled but rhel7 has shit for libs

river eagle
copper nacelle
#

it's libc is like 7 years old

river eagle
#

alright then

compact sedge
#

ok but you still want the 3.x version that the remote server is using

copper nacelle
#

which is why he's compiling it

river eagle
#

I'll clone the one back

compact sedge
#

right?

copper nacelle
#

It doesn't have py3

river eagle
#

this time I could actually clone it in a better dir

copper nacelle
#

yeah do cd

compact sedge
#

yeah it's running 3.7

#

or something

#

idk

river eagle
#

So I'd clone it in root?

compact sedge
#

but if 3.7 requires a new openssl then it won't work when you compile the things and put it on the server @copper nacelle

#

because it will be linked against the wrong openssl

#

and I bet my bottom that a discord bot needs ssl because it's like a super common internet library

copper nacelle
#

yeah

compact sedge
#

hal might need an older version of py3 assuming he can use py3

azure vessel
#

yes

compact sedge
#

I thought you were using py2 because zote was written in py2

copper nacelle
#

Can't

#

pretty sure zote uses await

#

Which is 3.6+

river eagle
#

yeah zote uses 3.6

compact sedge
#

so then get python 3.6

#

and use cpython 3.6

copper nacelle
#

I guess

river eagle
compact sedge
#

ideally the highest version of 3.6 you can

#

and don't git clone

copper nacelle
#

checkout the commit for the release for 3.6

#

imo

compact sedge
#

git clone gives you unstable dev version

#

download the branch

#

either using checkout

#

or just wget

#

the tar.gz

river eagle
#

which one to listen? ๐Ÿ˜ฉ

copper nacelle
#

checkout is better imo

compact sedge
#

checkout takes more bandwidth

#

and has no advantages

river eagle
#

so git checkout 3.6

compact sedge
#

unless u already git cloned it

#

in which case do checkout

azure vessel
#

yeah get checkout

river eagle
#

I've already cloned it

azure vessel
#

its better imo

#

its faster

river eagle
#

done

azure vessel
#

ok now try again

river eagle
compact sedge
#

ok but wait

copper nacelle
#

That's not how it works

#

You need the commit hash

compact sedge
#

checkout 3.6.5

#

don't do 3.6.0

river eagle
azure vessel
#

ok write git checkout 3.7

river eagle
azure vessel
#

hal

#

it says 3.7

#

not 3.6.5

river eagle
#

@azure vessel why would I want 3.7 when I need 3.6

azure vessel
#

and 3.6 isnt working right

river eagle
#

what?

#

@copper nacelle what is this man talking about?

azure vessel
#

google it

copper nacelle
#

ignore him he's bad

#

Checkout 3.6.7rc2

river eagle
#

Anyways I now have cloned the latest version of cpython in the root directory and inside the cpython dir I've done git checkout 3.6

#

alright

copper nacelle
#

if that doesn't work you do 4893861

river eagle
copper nacelle
#

Yeah

#

Now do the stuff

#

configure and make -j4

#

Thanks

river eagle
#

./configure --with-pydebug?

#

alrighty

copper nacelle
#

Yes

#

@compact sedge howmst the fuck have you not used cpython btw

#

just running python is cpython

river eagle
#

no swearing on a christian server

copper nacelle
#

Cython is some python to c compiler

river eagle
copper nacelle
#

Cool

#

make -j4

compact sedge
#

I use cython last time I needed it

river eagle
compact sedge
#

but yeah compile and install python 3.6.5r2, which looks like you just did

#

then compile and install cpython 3.6.5r2

river eagle
#

I guess I just did that

compact sedge
#

do make install

#

in python

#

after make

copper nacelle
#

but cython isn't even normal python it's a static compiler

#

normal python is cpython

compact sedge
#

yeah

#

I know

#

but I rarely need to compile python

copper nacelle
#

Yeah

river eagle
#

so I'll do what angle said?

copper nacelle
#

So you should be using cpython more often

#

No

#

I mean if you want to test it sure

#

But you want to transfer it out of the container so you can actually use it

river eagle
#

alright then what I'll do?

compact sedge
#

wdym no. he did make now he needs to do make install so that the system python3 is 3.6.5 and not 3.7

copper nacelle
#

Because that container is useless

#

It's entirely for compiling python

river eagle
copper nacelle
#

So that the uni server can use the compiled version

compact sedge
#

but you need to first compile and install python 3.6.5 before you can compile and install cpython, right?

#

or can you just compile and install cpython on its own?

copper nacelle
#

what

#

Cpython is python