archived-modding-development

[cunning lagoon]

to prove a point

[floral furnace]

ahhh good reason

[river eagle]

@copper nacelle Did you get it working with the sprite I sent?

[cunning lagoon]

yea

yea

[river eagle]

yea

[ember bloom]

Ultimatum feels good as a boss

[cunning lagoon]

i disagree

[ember bloom]

Why?

[cunning lagoon]

i like the concept of the new attacks and stuff but balance wise its a mess

i think both the pogo phase and the last phase are really cool

but i don't enjoy doing radiant attempts because many deaths feel very cheap

[ember bloom]

It doesn't have higher hp, right?

[cunning lagoon]

not sure

[warped sinew]

radiant ultimatum radiance is giving me cancer

[cunning lagoon]

yea i tried it for like 30 minutes and i got to climb

and i just dont feel like playing it more

i dont think it does a good job at providing a fair challenge

unlike, say, mantis gods or lost lord

[warped sinew]

i got to the top about 8 times and died like a retard

[compact sedge]

smh u guys calling radiance rng (/s)

[warped sinew]

the fireball attack is just a bit too op

[cunning lagoon]

yeah

[warped sinew]

yeah i 100% agree its not fair

like sometimes you just will die

[cunning lagoon]

also pretty sure sometimes the vertical spears just dont leave a gap

[warped sinew]

yup

also the fireball attack usually overlaps into another attack, in the platforming bit its hell

[trim totem]

oh dang

[warped sinew]

i think it needs some tweaking but can be a very good boss

[cunning lagoon]

yup

i think concept wise its a really cool boss

[trim totem]

graig did you see my pv edits

[cunning lagoon]

with the pogo only phase etc

[trim totem]

just tell the creator to change it

[warped sinew]

who made the URad mod?

[cunning lagoon]

@civic hare

[compact sedge]

clearly it's designed to be played with blackmoth

[trim totem]

list your grievances

[warped sinew]

@civic hare ill give you my balancing notes tomorrow when i wake up :p

also khan i did not see it

[trim totem]

i added arm to some sprites

should i dm it

[cunning lagoon]

just post it here im

o

[warped sinew]

^

[trim totem]

kk

[warped sinew]

post away

[trim totem]

i haven't done any new ones since thr stagger

[floral furnace]

wait he didnt have arms before

[cunning lagoon]

🤔

[rain cedar]

[cunning lagoon]

[warped sinew]

looks alright i guess

why did you do it though?

you dont like the normal sprites?

[trim totem]

i don't like the lack of arm

[warped sinew]

you should add an extra arm to everyone in the game

and make an extra arm mod

[trim totem]

they actually had three arms, i just removed one

[cunning lagoon]

i died to the 4th fight again

[warped sinew]

what are you doing?

[cunning lagoon]

rad absrad 5 times in a row

maybe that will convince some people that the boss is more consistent than they think

i'd be happy with 4 too

[warped sinew]

i did it 2 times in a row All Bindings once during practice.

its not that rng

fucking try URad if you want rng ;_;

[cunning lagoon]

[warped sinew]

[trim totem]

ngg 5 times in a row

[warped sinew]

just normal kill him?

could probably do it now days

hitless though, fuuuuuuuck that

ima try abrad 5 times

see how i go

[cunning lagoon]

[leaden hedge]

do absrad 5 times at once

with one controller

[cunning lagoon]

not possible

with one keyboard, maybe

[ember bloom]

Mantis Lords and other boss mods work with newest release?

[cunning lagoon]

yea

[ember bloom]

Okay, thanks.

[warped sinew]

yeah i got like 3 in a row then i died, im too tired right now hehe

im going to bed, good luck on your 5 in a row

[cunning lagoon]

thanks!

good night

[flat forum]

Good Night Graig!

[trim totem]

[cunning lagoon]

welp

i got 4

im uplaoding this one

it will have to do

also the death on the 5th fight is completely my fault so really no one can fucking complain

no bullshit no rng

oh nvm the recording doesnt exist apparently so i guess ill just go and die

i guess ill just do it again 🙂

[mortal trout]

🙂

[flat forum]

okay

I am

going to play HK

for the first time in like at least 2 months

[cunning lagoon]

yep

[ember bloom]

So far UltiRad is good, could use some balls adjustment and vertical spikes

[cunning lagoon]

yeah those are the 2 things i would change

[copper nacelle]

yes

[cunning lagoon]

what i find funny is people in the subreddit calling her more fair (fairer?) than absrad

[copper nacelle]

[hollow pier]

absrad is bullshit and rng so i agree

[ember bloom]

Well, if those 2 things would change it would be* more interesting to me than AbsRad

[cunning lagoon]

more interesting for sure

it's a cool fight

56 how do i find my video

i dont want to go through thguis again

it just doesnt exit

[hollow pier]

go to videos

[cunning lagoon]

no its not there

it vanished

im 99% sure i was recording

[hollow pier]

ok you weren't

[cunning lagoon]

i literally check the REC: 00:00:00 thingy every fight

[copper nacelle]

this is why you use replay buffer

[cunning lagoon]

the video is longer than 5 imnutes

[copper nacelle]

you can set replay buffer to be longer

[cunning lagoon]

shut up

[copper nacelle]

I have mine set at like 8 and a half minutes

but you could make it like twenty

[hollow pier]

mine is set at 5m but it made a 2:08 long replay

pretty sure i had it active longer than that

[cunning lagoon]

obs sucks

56 how do i get back my video

[copper nacelle]

idk

it should just be in the videos folder

[cunning lagoon]

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[copper nacelle]

Same

[hollow pier]

desolder this weekend

[leaden hedge]

just point a camcorder at your screen

[cunning lagoon]

ill just splice 300 kills ina video

actually i dont have 300 kills yet so not that

also i have a new sick climb strat

which ios not worth at all and its super risky

[ember bloom]

Yep, spikes are dogshit

[azure vessel]

randomizer mode didnt give me mantis claw after getting every reachable charm/ability

[cunning lagoon]

x

are you playing hardmode

[azure vessel]

yeah

i had to pogo on primal aspids

to get to places

[copper nacelle]

x

have you gotten ismas

[azure vessel]

nope

[copper nacelle]

.

do you have dash

and fireball

[azure vessel]

dash, double jump, fireball, crystal heart

[copper nacelle]

[cunning lagoon]

[copper nacelle]

nice checking every location

[azure vessel]

i literally did

[copper nacelle]

you can get to isma's

for one

[cunning lagoon]

have you been to sanctum

[azure vessel]

yea

[copper nacelle]

spike tunnel skip urself

[cunning lagoon]

dont you need claw to get to isma's in the first place

because of the wall you have to cdash off of

[azure vessel]

i deleted the save

its hopeless

its me just pogoing into shit

for 5hrs

what mod should i try now

[copper nacelle]

[cunning lagoon]

[azure vessel]

lightbringer?

is it good

.,.

[buoyant obsidian]

I recommend Lightbringer

[mortal trout]

I wonder why

[cunning lagoon]

:

wtf

[mortal trout]

🤔

[cunning lagoon]

there we go

[young walrus]

try rando on not hard mode

did you clear crystal peaks?

cuz you can full clear that with what you have

hard mode is meant for speedrun tech and hard skips. not really recommended for people who don't know all that stuffs

[fair rampart]

i had a dream that in the PV fight there were two PVs

[cunning lagoon]

nightmare god pv

[vapid cape]

That was me that called her more fair, and I said it on the basis that I SWEAR the laser is slowed down and that I'm not seeing any real overlaps in attacks. Everything else though is way the fuck harder and some attacks like vertical swords can give you a pattern you just can't do anything about, but usually there's a way through.

I don't think I keep that opinion though

[flat forum]

DLK

help

how do not succ at gaem

[vapid cape]

It'll probably change the moment I go back to normal absrad and re-examine her

[ember bloom]

Well, spikes coming from top are bullshit

[cunning lagoon]

i don't think this is even up to discussion

this boss is not balanced

[vapid cape]

There's usually a way through though, even if you don't have big gaps nearby. Usually. Not always.

[flat forum]

waitwhat?

[ember bloom]

I moved to Lost Lord for now

[cunning lagoon]

they hated him because he told the truth

[mortal trout]

I wonder how much people in total think absrad is fair

[cunning lagoon]

not many

probably not more than a few dozen

[mortal trout]

sad tbh

[ember bloom]

"can't bet bos, iz unfair"

[cunning lagoon]

[mortal trout]

literally spent 7 hours on a radiant kill and I think it's fair

[trim totem]

kurosh are you using spells for your 5 radiants in a row

[cunning lagoon]

yeah

[vapid cape]

The only thing I find bullshit about absrad is the first octolaser, 80% of the time I get hit it's because of that, and I'm READY for it. But, it's not a bullshit boss just because one attack can blindside you from nowhere.

[cunning lagoon]

wdym

the first one of the fight?

[mortal trout]

getting blindsided is different from undodgeable attacks

[cunning lagoon]

or the first one of the 3

[vapid cape]

As in, the first of the three.

[cunning lagoon]

id say its reasonable to struggle with that

[vapid cape]

The tell is split-second and it gets me often

[cunning lagoon]

its hard to react to

[ember bloom]

Only thing that disturbed me in AbsRad were balls spawn in platforming.

[vapid cape]

for whatever reason, I don't have this problem with ultimatum radiance and I'm not sure why

either I "got better" or they nerfed it somehow.

[copper nacelle]

it's not

nerfed

[cunning lagoon]

shoulda left it at "it's not"

[copper nacelle]

it lasts for less time I guess

but it's the same speed

effectively faster

[cunning lagoon]

look into manipulating where she spawns in the last phase thanksss

[vapid cape]

Then I suppose I just improved and overcame my only real obstacle.

Hell, I feel like -I- could do 5 radiant absrads in a row now if I could keep this laser reaction up.

[trim totem]

yeah sometimes i feel way better at dodging the lasers randomly

[vapid cape]

they were really the only thing holding me back.

[trim totem]

it might just be your reaction time physically varying

[cunning lagoon]

for me theres not really one attack in particular that gets me

but after 3 or 4 fights mistakes are bound to happen

[vapid cape]

Also, I officially take back my "ultimatum feels more fair" statement in this case. Half my reasoning was that laser didn't feel as unforgiving. Now that I know it's JUST as unforgiving, there's not really a question anymore.

[cunning lagoon]

well even if the laser was slower there was no way that statement was true

both the orbs and the vertical spears need tuning down

[copper nacelle]

ultimatum balls

eeeee

[trim totem]

56 can you give pv the radiance lasers

[cunning lagoon]

on top of thatshe's bugged

[copper nacelle]

yeah but why

also should I disable shade cloak for lost lord or is that dumb

[trim totem]

lost lord?

idk about that

[cunning lagoon]

on the spike pogo section she's only supposed to do 1-2 fireballs then change attacks but if the's doing that as she transitions phases she does like 8 fireballs in a row

without changing attacks

[copper nacelle]

yeah I got that bug too

it's like 8 slow fireballs

[ember bloom]

At least they are slower

[cunning lagoon]

also as she transitions into the sword rain she can just do double curtain

[copper nacelle]

Yeah

[cunning lagoon]

which is literally 100% unavoidable without ddark

[copper nacelle]

i got that too

[vapid cape]

I got that in my video, yeah.

[cunning lagoon]

vertical spears dont leave space to dodge

[trim totem]

make sure to give alek some suggestions for these

[copper nacelle]

I ddark curtains like 80% of the time tbh

[cunning lagoon]

orbs can literally spawn on top of you

this one also happens with absrad but that one gives you way more than enough time to react

for you to move out of the way

in this the orbs literally just hit you

[vapid cape]

I think orbs are fine myself. The only time they REALLY suck is if you're already in her face when she starts.

[copper nacelle]

x

orbs are illegal

[cunning lagoon]

like there is a 0% chance this boss is more fair than absrad even if the lasers were slower

[trim totem]

56 you should give pp radiance lasers except with void tendrils

[vapid cape]

But that's being greedy.

[cunning lagoon]

and orbs on p2 is just absolute nonsense

more like

ultimatum nonsense

this guy

lmao

i find it funny he says "it still shares the RNG probs AR has in the middle part of the fight where it can either be short and easy or take forever to do, I'm really not a fan of the waiting game."

i've killed her maybe 40-50 times today

and every single fight has been 1:30-2:00 long

eh not 40-50 mroe like 30-40

[vapid cape]

I DO agree that platforms phase is less restricted here though, just because of the removal of overlaps. Not that I'm saying overlaps are totally undoable and that you need to hump the bottom always forever, because you don't, but in absrad there really are positional disadvantages people get into, that aren't really in the ulitimatum version. You can be about anywhere and still have the same odds of getting through things.

[cunning lagoon]

yeah because p2 is absrad with hard orbs

and an easier curtain

and dont tell me that a 3rd nail wheel matters because it absolutely doesnt

[trim totem]

i think ultimatum radiance has a lot of interesting ideas

the nice thing about it is that we know that it might actually be changed unlike absrad

[cunning lagoon]

why would absrad need to be changed 🤔

[trim totem]

to be buffed of course

[cunning lagoon]

oh i see

[trim totem]

where's my falling spears pogo phase

[ember bloom]

Does Lost Lord got same hp as Lost Kin?

[cunning lagoon]

its something like 1.5k iirc

yeah 1.5k

[trim totem]

dan

[carmine igloo]

what mod are we talking about

[cunning lagoon]

lost lord and ultimatum radiance

[ember bloom]

So, Radiant is gonna get it's normal value or further increased?

[carmine igloo]

okay

thank

[cunning lagoon]

that's a good question

it's probably just 1.5k

[ember bloom]

That or 1.65k

Or whatever it was

[cunning lagoon]

probably not but might as well ask @copper nacelle

[trim totem]

did any of these boss buffs add attacks from other bosses

[ember bloom]

I will take Lost Lord/Ult Rad over doing those shit Pantheons any day

[cunning lagoon]

no for the most part its just their normal attacks but modified

so like lost lord does jump lunge into dive and sends out a bunch of infection blobs

etc

[ember bloom]

And 2x faster dash

[faint blade]

just discovered what this Ultimatum Radiance thing was about

[trim totem]

i was died on uumuu

[cunning lagoon]

on which attemt

[trim totem]

fiftieth

[native wing]

dan

[trim totem]

on p3 of course

[ember bloom]

When you ben when Uumuu die

[cunning lagoon]

Good jod

[ember bloom]

Uumuu without abilities is

[cunning lagoon]

ah yeah i saw your video

congrats on that one

its sick

[ember bloom]

Only Uumuu is dog shit

[cunning lagoon]

[trim totem]

oh it's up

I'll give it a like

[fair rampart]

uumuu more loike

uwu

[vapid cape]

notices ur nerf

[ember bloom]

So, NGG doesn't work with new updates right?

[cunning lagoon]

it does

it's part of infinite grimm now

[ember bloom]

Okay, thanks.

[mortal trout]

so is ultimatum radiance harder than ngg?

[cunning lagoon]

no lol

not even close

[vapid cape]

NGG is waaaayyyy harder

[young walrus]

ultimatum radiance?

[vapid cape]

Beating Ultimatum on attuned took me all of 2 tries. I haven't pushed NGG to phase 2 even once.

[young walrus]

she telling you to propose by a certain date or something?

[cunning lagoon]

[vapid cape]

I gave NGG like... 20-30 goes before I fucked off from it

[fair rampart]

ultimatum radiance eat ten mask

[cunning lagoon]

18 upvotes btw

[hollow pier]

probably most hype thing

18 upvotes

kthx

[young walrus]

wow. no reddit post for the new 100% wr

sad

[hollow pier]

post it yourself

[cunning lagoon]

reddit downvotes glitches

[hollow pier]

ez

[exotic venture]

reddit downvotes everything that isn't either clickbait or a bad meme

or a public vote

[hollow pier]

wd juggle

[cunning lagoon]

[carmine igloo]

what is NGG

[cunning lagoon]

nightmare god grimm

a modded boss

[carmine igloo]

oh okay

thank

screw that shit

[cunning lagoon]

yeah who plays mods

[hollow pier]

qol

[cunning lagoon]

qol more like hardlock at monomon 😂 👌

[young walrus]

^

ikr

[copper nacelle]

@ember bloom radiant won't affect lost lord hp

[cunning lagoon]

56 dont read the bully above

[copper nacelle]

Cause I set it manually

also ptkyr die

[hollow pier]

get a time

[copper nacelle]

h

[cunning lagoon]

acrid is harder to beat now

[copper nacelle]

I'll get a time this week

[cunning lagoon]

i'll desolder my e key this weekend

[copper nacelle]

e

Probably Thursday

I don't think I have anything of value on Friday

[cunning lagoon]

is thursday the 2nd or the 4th day

[hollow pier]

acrid still just as easy to beat

[cunning lagoon]

4th right

[hollow pier]

if he gets a mid37 that's harder

[cunning lagoon]

also if you make fun of me for saying a word wrong i can just play the "Its npt my first languence" card

so i win

[ember bloom]

Thanks 56

[cunning lagoon]

np

[hollow pier]

dnde estoa al bliboitehc

[cunning lagoon]

🤔

i take offense to that

[hollow pier]

amgio eu np habal epnsoal

[cunning lagoon]

thats portuguese

[ember bloom]

Kurwa

[cunning lagoon]

cyka

whats the purpose of this emoji

[ember bloom]

In case horher boi rejoins server

[native wing]

'horher'

gross sounding

tbh

[cunning lagoon]

you went back to the grimmkin

[native wing]

gay grub

[cunning lagoon]

whats wrong with being gay

😡

[native wing]

grub hot

[cunning lagoon]

@copper nacelle when is sub 2 30 pop

you told me youd do it

[native wing]

should kill

[cedar flicker]

has anybody here actual idea about what modding api will allow me to do?

is there a documentation?

[cunning lagoon]

actually dont do pop

you might bop me

[cedar flicker]

I dont understand you

My bad, it is pinned

To be clear, I am no longer pirate, as I have purchased Hollow Knight today

[wispy sigil]

[civic hare]

so, i should probably fix the thing where nail rain is sometimes literally impossible to avoid huh

[native wing]

it allows you to play mods the end

also pirated hollow knight

[cedar flicker]

Yeah, Im not interested in playing mods, rather making them

[mortal trout]

could've just asked how to make mods

[cedar flicker]

Well, that is not exactly what I wanted to know. I easily figured out how mods were created just by installing ModInstaller. I was interested in documentation and summary to its potential.

[mortal trout]

ah, ok

[cedar flicker]

But still, I dont know answer to THE question: Is there a way, any way, to influence games save file path? I was thinking about recompiling System.dll, with crooked System.IO.File, but it doesnt seem to be there...

[cedar flicker]

Found System.IO.File in mscorlib.dll, will try to modify it

[copper nacelle]

r u ok

[cunning lagoon]

[copper nacelle]

if you've read the docs as you said

you should've seen the save file name hook

might be able to just pass ../../../etc

[cunning lagoon]

56 calm DOWN ⬇

[copper nacelle]

Or you could just On hook the SaveGame function

You might be able to runtime detour the extern property get on Application.persistentDataPath as well, but I'm less sure about that

[hollow pier]

now that i have access to it

good

[cunning lagoon]

[native wing]

56 calm DOWN ▶

[copper nacelle]

It's in Assembly-CSharp btw

You could also override Platform's GetSaveLocation thing

It just does Path.Join(Application.persistentDataPath, saveName) iirc

Just change the first arg there

@cedar flicker

[cedar flicker]

my gosh, thanks

I havent actually noticed that in doc

[cunning lagoon]

👁

[cedar flicker]

but is there a setter method?

wait, my bad, those are not methods but hooks

okay then

thank you @copper nacelle

[cunning lagoon]

np

[copper nacelle]

yw

idk how well the .. thing will work on windows with Path join but if that doesn't work On.Platform.GetSaveLocation or whatever is super easy too

[cunning lagoon]

the Path of Join

[cedar flicker]

to be honest, on second examination, I am a bit sceptical about the hook

[native wing]

the Path of Jon

banega

[vapid cape]

Well, I got a radiant ultirad kill. I'm not happy with it. It's not... fun or exciting.

All you do is just burst her down and luck can make it look super fuckin easy

[cunning lagoon]

nice

[vapid cape]

Like, platforms had her do light walls twice, orbs, then swords. Then the phase was over.

Because she doesn't have the health to actually MAKE you dodge her all that much.

[mortal trout]

last phase of ultirad looks really fun

[vapid cape]

overcharmed shaman stone strats just melt her in 2 minutes and 20 seconds of that is the intro/her stagger.

[copper nacelle]

not using qol intro speed up smh my head

[cunning lagoon]

not wilfully getting hardlocked after killing Monomon the Teacher lmao my ass off

[copper nacelle]

u

fixed

[vapid cape]

I may try to redo this charmless later.

[copper nacelle]

like 13 days ago

[cunning lagoon]

wait until alek does some rebalancing

[vapid cape]

Because this current kill is... snoooore.

[cunning lagoon]

in my imo

[vapid cape]

Yeah, I'll do that.

wait for at least next update, then work on charmless radiant

[copper nacelle]

Do NGG while you wait

[vapid cape]

I'm MUCH more proud of the video I did upload. I got hit 3 times in it but at least I like... dodged shit, and engaged with the boss, and had a little fun with it.

[copper nacelle]

If you don't rush down the boss in under two minutes are you really fighting it

[vapid cape]

lmfao

I do think in the meantime I'm gonna get a Lost Lord charmless radiant kill up to show on my channel.

I did him charmless with lvl4 nail on my first casual modded run, I see no reason why I can't hitless him on the same circumstances

[cunning lagoon]

on an unrelated note my hand is still dying

i still have the red circle

[copper nacelle]

does it hurt or anything

[cunning lagoon]

not at all

it looks like im shedding skin

[civic hare]

⭕

[cunning lagoon]

it looks more like

or 🔴

which one is more efficient

soul eater or spell twister

assuming i dont heal

and the notch cost is irrelevant for this made up situation

[hollow pier]

uh

eater i think

2 hits per cast

[cunning lagoon]

ok

[hollow pier]

twister is 24% per cast

but 22 each 2 hits

[cunning lagoon]

but you can kinda "store" spells with twister

[hollow pier]

i guess

[cunning lagoon]

you get 8 instead of 6 at max soul

[copper nacelle]

twister is basically 4/3 right?

[cunning lagoon]

eater still better probably

[copper nacelle]

and eater is like 1/2

lower is better

easy

[cunning lagoon]

get out of here with your math and your numbers

dont do math kids

[copper nacelle]

Same

[cunning lagoon]

you know what would have made the absrad fight infinitely better

a new sick ass theme

composed by the man himself

Christopher Larkin

[civic hare]

i wish i didn't just make pretentious glitchy synthwave, if i could fake orchestral shit then ultrad would have its own theme

[cunning lagoon]

boi

that would be so cool

btw 56 when is sisters of battle playing on man5tis gods

unless that already happens in which case disregard

[hollow pier]

55555555

[cunning lagoon]

🤔

[copper nacelle]

uhh

soon tm

I can take a look at it today I guess

[civic hare]

if yall think that ultrad doesn't have enough heath then i can just spawn in a second one

[cunning lagoon]

nightmare god radiance

[weak lodge]

yes

also waddup bois

[vapid cape]

Oh, she has "enough health" for sure. Giving her more would just make it a slog for all but the top tier strats.

[cunning lagoon]

[vapid cape]

charmless is a good length, overcharmed radiant rushdown abuse is different

maybe a BIT more health

like, prenerf absrad amounts

100-150 per phase or so

[civic hare]

making her harder by just increasing health a bunch felt like it'd be cheap. rn the only additional health is for the new phases

[weak lodge]

absrad needs a 800 hp buff kthx

[vapid cape]

Idk, it's a hard balance to strike. I don't think there's anything necessarily WRONG with a short fight if you're going maximum advantages

[civic hare]

speaking of cheap, i'm about to release an update that fixes the impossible overlapping nail rain thing, there's now just barely enough of a gap that you should be able to dodge any pattern

[vapid cape]

so if she stayed as she is I'd be happy. I'd just think radiant kills on her looked stupid.

[civic hare]

she's definitely not optimized for hyper-optimized play, simply because i don't do hyper-optimized play

i made the mod for myself first and foremost, the fact that lots of people are talking about it is a surprising bonus

[weak lodge]

ah shit he had a little over 200 hp remaining

kill me

[cunning lagoon]

markoth?

[weak lodge]

yeppo

[cunning lagoon]

oof

[weak lodge]

also dont you love it when you get good rng and he does sheild bash over a platform so i got 6 hits in

[cunning lagoon]

good rng whats that

[weak lodge]

ikr

well i died again

consistent 2nd phase tho

[vapid cape]

Yeah, that's the thing, if you base her around hyper optimized play then when it comes time to NOT use the top tier radiant junk it drags on.

[civic hare]

yeah

[weak lodge]

I COULD HAVE DONE IT

ahh

as soon as i die he does a sheild cyclone as he was entering 2nd phase

[glacial panther]

alek do you have any ideas for buffing the sword walls

as far as I could tell they were unaffected

[weak lodge]

make them curve ;}

[glacial panther]

you could do the boring thing and make them move faster

[mortal trout]

hollow knight is definitely the best anime ever released, dunno if it was the best manga though

[civic hare]

the easiest way to buff the sword walls would be to make them appear faster. idk, i'm really unenthusiastic about this attack

maybe i should just remove it, like how lost kin removes headbang

[weak lodge]

kurosh...

he had less than 200..\

ree

[cunning lagoon]

[civic hare]

anyway new ultrad version's in the launcher, fixes unavoidable nail rain patterns

[glacial panther]

I don't know how hard this would be but you could make a second identical wave spawn shortly after each one so dashing is required

[civic hare]

oo that would be cool

[mortal trout]

btw does ddark remove the spikes in ultirad or no

[glacial panther]

no

not when it's full floor at least

[mortal trout]

nice, that's good, no cheese

[glacial panther]

well even if you could cheese it with ddark, the side spikes in lance rain are coded to reappear immediately

so it wouldn't be TOO cheesy

[compact sedge]

how would you guys feel if I made ultimatum radiance 10 times harder as a shitpost

[civic hare]

bring it on

[mortal trout]

not too bad, once it's possible

[compact sedge]

no it would be impossible without maybe blackmoth or maybe godly rng

gimme a sec

[weak lodge]

i like the sound of that

i wanna help make the attacks and cause pain

[glacial panther]

I'd like to see a trend of making easy bosses absurdly hard with mods

like gruz mother and sheo

[weak lodge]

i wanted to do that with tmg tbh

[glacial panther]

I can imagine making tmg more difficult would be hard without just turning him into ngg

[weak lodge]

oh uhh

[glacial panther]

did you hear my idea for NKG with radiance attacks

[weak lodge]

angle tell him

[glacial panther]

replace fire rain with lasers, bats with homing orbs, spawn light wall during dash, etc

[weak lodge]

i had a much more uhh sinister idea

making him able to chain attacks and play mind games if you make 1 false move

[glacial panther]

that's pretty neat

what if he could spawn pufferfish hell from the animation for bats

[weak lodge]

like being able to cancel uppercut and backstep to shoot bats upward then corkskrew up with an uppercut etc

[glacial panther]

yeah that sounds awesome

[weak lodge]

thank

[glacial panther]

you could easily make that hard as fuck without speeding him up that much

[civic hare]

i thought it would be funny to make a turbo version of gorb that launches like 10 waves of needles in rapid succession. and he'd be called "THE GREAT MIND" with a fullscreen title card

[weak lodge]

im still gonna give him a speed increase tho

not as fast as nkg but relitively fast

but most importantly i have to continue learning c# , i bearly know anything and im gonna devote a portion of my time into it now that i have ideas

[civic hare]

the hollow knight steps up to the platform and challenges the sun. it rises up, revealing a snake body underneath. it disappears. with a huge explosion, gorb appears and goes "HOOOOOOOOO"

title card: THE GREAT MIND

tho tbh ultrad is enough "oh what if existing boss but more" for me, at least for awhile

since hk is a metroidvania, the most exciting modding possibility for me is changing and adding stuff to the world. but map editing tools don't really exist yet

i heard someone is working on something though

[weak lodge]

i also wanted to change and edit stuff about the world but i guess i cant

[cunning lagoon]

Yeah Draco has been working on Cherry Madness

It's looking promising

[civic hare]

of course

i meant uh, nes's thing

[compact sedge]

lul u can still cheese spikes by DDing into them and taking 1 dmg while on radiant difficulty and using the iframes

[weak lodge]

i also asked about creating new encounters with npc's but i guess that's also unlikely

[compact sedge]

or alternatively taking 1 dmg until you have fotf

[cunning lagoon]

they dont kill you even on rad diff?

[cunning lagoon]

drugs you went back to the grimmkin

now go back to drugs

[compact sedge]

they do 1 dmg

I read the code

maybe that gets boosted to infinite tho

idk

[cunning lagoon]

but did you try it ingame

[copper nacelle]

aa big smart

[compact sedge]

it uses HeroController.instance.TakeDamage

[cunning lagoon]

everything kills you in 1 hit

[copper nacelle]

yeah TakeDamage checks Boss state dungo

and then sets it to 999

[compact sedge]

ok

nvm

me dungo

[cunning lagoon]

🤔

[compact sedge]

alright time to test this monster I made

[glacial panther]

999 is a classic instant kill value but I think it would have been even funnier if they had found the maximum health you can get with charms and lifeblood cocoons

under the assumption that anyone would ever do that

[copper nacelle]

should've used int.MaxValue

[cunning lagoon]

shouldve used 69402

not fixing it

[compact sedge]

402

[civic hare]

402 balls it

fun fact: originally the plan for ultrad climb was to add a path of pain-style platforming section, still with the laser going. and then for the final phase you'd pogo on buzzsaws instead of spikes

but copying shit from other scenes was too annoying to do so i scrapped it

[mortal trout]

that sounds fun

[compact sedge]

lul I made the lasers spawn so fast they despawned before they could do dmg

[civic hare]

lol

[mortal trout]

what if you made the lasers so slow that they overlapped with every attack

but

you made every other attack faster

[weak lodge]

what if you made it so that she rotate's the lazers while firing slowly

legit a 360 digree attack

[mortal trout]

what if you made it so that nkg spawned during the last phase

[civic hare]

i wanted to have three radial laser bursts show up and then fire, like antic-antic-antic-PEW-PEW-PEW. but the way the fsm is laid out would make that a bit torturous to implement

it's only designed for one set of lasers at a time

i wanted to do the same for orbs, but ran into the same problem. so if you're mad that they aren't telegraphed long enough, blame tc

[glacial panther]

I think a neat way to buff orbs would be having a lance spawn at the same point and fire in your direction

[mortal trout]

tc worst dev team amirite 😂 💯 👌

[civic hare]

lol i just imagined ngg spawning in the last phase but then immediately divekicking into the abyss and dying

[compact sedge]

alright 3 lasers at a time

hope this works

so uh

what happens is the lasers despawn before they can fire

u know how long it takes for them to fire?

ima set eb extra time to 5.5 secs just to test

[weak lodge]

FUCk

ahh

under 200 again

this time like only 180 smthn tho

[mortal trout]

just stop dying easy

[weak lodge]

you try ;}

[mortal trout]

u

[cunning lagoon]

just stop dying easy

[weak lodge]

too bad

[civic hare]

the first laser fires at .425 seconds, the 2nd and 3rd fire at .35 seconds

[weak lodge]

ah

[copper nacelle]

just stop dying

[weak lodge]

yes wise words of kurosh must follow

[mortal trout]

those were my words though

[copper nacelle]

just hit the boss until its health reaches 0 without TakeDamage having been called

[civic hare]

here's the scene dump i used if it helps

[copper nacelle]

u

[civic hare]

u

[copper nacelle]

u

[cunning lagoon]

just ddark into spikes lol u only take 1 damage on radiant

i saw the code

[civic hare]

it had a 1

[weak lodge]

tbh kurosh said it best, 56 go back to spamming fireball at rad

[copper nacelle]

no

[weak lodge]

ok

[native wing]

when youre tsf

[cunning lagoon]

😂

thank you for censoring the swear word

wouldnt want 56 reading those

[compact sedge]

oh good it always goes EB 1 -> 2 -> 3 so I can just make 3 take a long time and 1 and 2 super fast

u guys are screwed

if I coded it right

[civic hare]

in platform phase (EB789) lasers take a leisurely .5 seconds to fire

i still have no idea what EB456 is for. it is a mystery

[compact sedge]

nope nvm

doesn't work the way I hoped

[hollow pier]

fellas i think we have qga at like 50% now

[cunning lagoon]

wow thatss like 10x higher than before

[native wing]

cuddle with grub

[hollow pier]

it's skurry's stream

gives me luck

[cunning lagoon]

i see

well, he did beat the game NMG in under 35 minutes

so i'm not surprised he's your lucky charm

luck charm or lucky charm

[hollow pier]

lucky

[cunning lagoon]

ok

[hollow pier]

or like

good luck charm

[cunning lagoon]

understandable

[weak lodge]

damnit markoth

[cunning lagoon]

@copper nacelle this seems to be you

[copper nacelle]

no

[cunning lagoon]

pp should just be like 4x as big

[copper nacelle]

[cunning lagoon]

he should take u'p the entire screen

[mortal trout]

🤔

[cunning lagoon]

Nightmare Ming Kimm 🤔

[hollow pier]

don't tell anyone but i dlkuroshed on qga once

[cunning lagoon]

👀

[hazy sentinel]

did you post it in the dlkurse

[native wing]

whats dlkurse

[cunning lagoon]

not much whats dlkurse with you

[native wing]

oh look oblobbles are related to monomon i guess

[cunning lagoon]

did you rad this in #hk-lore

[weak lodge]

rad

[cunning lagoon]

🎺

[compact sedge]

ok I'm like 2 tests away from releasing

the greatest mod ever

it's possibly doable in redwing. that's all I'll say

[ornate rivet]

TELL US

[copper nacelle]

possibly

[ornate rivet]

will it release today?

[mortal trout]

make it part of the redwing mod tbh

if it's only doable in redwing

[copper nacelle]

watch someone beat it tbh

[ornate rivet]

@compact sedge
ping me when it releases

[mortal trout]

ping @ everyone when it releases 😩

[native wing]

ping @ kieldor when

[hazy sentinel]

ping @ modders when u need help installing mods

[copper nacelle]

@ornate rivet https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0756VMDV5

[cunning lagoon]

ping <@&283547423706447872> when you need help installing mods

[native wing]

yes

[mortal trout]

kurosh no

[ornate rivet]

<@&328354344313421825>
How do I bring up menu in debug mod

I accidentally deleted it

[young walrus]

F1

[copper nacelle]

.

[cunning lagoon]

.

[compact sedge]

I present. ATOMIC RADIANCE

[buoyant obsidian]

is this a meme

[ornate rivet]

I tried pressing f 1

[compact sedge]

GLHF

too lazy to rename dll

[ornate rivet]

but it doesnt do anything

[native wing]

grub

[young walrus]

then it's not installed

[ornate rivet]

I keep pressing f and 1

but nothing happens

[young walrus]

[ornate rivet]

I think your mod is bad tbh

[young walrus]

f and 1

top kek

naisu

[compact sedge]

alright hope y'all enjoy my totally serious totally doable mod

also inb4 dl actually beats it

[cunning lagoon]

not even gonna install it

[mortal trout]

sad

[native wing]

sad

[weak lodge]

you know what else is sad

[copper nacelle]

u

[native wing]

u

[mortal trout]

u

[copper nacelle]

u

[weak lodge]

my markoth 2nd phase deaths and me, haha checkmate 56

[mortal trout]

markoth and knightmere is the best ship tbh

[weak lodge]

wait how can i feel sad when i cant feel anythign anymore

[ember bloom]

Dying to Markoth in 2k18

[mortal trout]

dying to anything in 2018 😂

[cunning lagoon]

2018 😹

[compact sedge]

just play some radiant atomic radiance, you'll have a much easier time knightmere

[copper nacelle]

atomic radiance seems doable

[compact sedge]

oh right forgot to do something

@ornate rivet

[copper nacelle]

unless p2 is like way worse

[cunning lagoon]

@ornate rivet

[mortal trout]

@ornate rivet

[copper nacelle]

@ornate rivet how do i install debug mod

[compact sedge]

if you think it's doable I wanna see dl do it

[weak lodge]

@ornate rivet how do i install the modding api

[copper nacelle]

@ornate rivet how do i breathe

[hazy sentinel]

e

[mortal trout]

@ornate rivet how do we stop pinging you

[hazy sentinel]

@ornate rivet blocked

[mortal trout]

sad

[compact sedge]

btw what do you think of my lasers @copper nacelle

[copper nacelle]

still dodgable

[compact sedge]

well yeah

it's not like... impossible

[hazy sentinel]

shoot 5 laser spreads at the same time

[cunning lagoon]

spread ur legs

wait no

[civic hare]

climbing phase is extremely good

[vapid cape]

lmfao first attempt at atomic radiance went... south fast

[cunning lagoon]

this madman actually went and killed wof with an enchanted sword

[compact sedge]

I give it 1 day before DL submits an atomic radiance clear. he sure loves doing shitpost challenges

[cunning lagoon]

ok i cant wait to prove you wrong

[hollow pier]

is that mobile

[cunning lagoon]

yeah

[hollow pier]

pain

[compact sedge]

you can't prove me wrong, you already did NGG, on two different versions @cunning lagoon

it's too late

[weak lodge]

YES

YES

YEs

YEs

[cunning lagoon]

]

[mortal trout]

gj

[copper nacelle]

is there anything other than the obvious p1 stuff

or no

[mortal trout]

is that radiant all bosses

[copper nacelle]

yeah

[civic hare]

atomic climbing phase is 10/10

[cunning lagoon]

shortly after killing wof

[weak lodge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/430116169375154189/501520148725891075/unknown.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/430116169375154189/501520194028699668/unknown.png

[hollow pier]

why did he have a drax pre-wof

[cunning lagoon]

gz

thats a mobile bug

they just show up on shadow chests

[hollow pier]

oh

[cunning lagoon]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hollow pier]

should've used the drax to kill him

[cunning lagoon]

doesnt seem too viable

[hollow pier]

if you just break every block how can wof survive?!?!/11/!?

free kill

[cunning lagoon]

u right

[ornate rivet]

@ornate rivet
pls stop pinging me

[copper nacelle]

@ornate rivet no

[ornate rivet]

@copper nacelle
no u

[hollow pier]

@quartz olive

hmmmmmmmmmmmm

[ornate rivet]

@ why is leth always online

[cunning lagoon]

lets ask him @random wagon

[ornate rivet]

oh no

[hollow pier]

@cunning lagoon

[cunning lagoon]

[mortal trout]

@

[civic hare]

@civic hare help how do you dodge orbs

[copper nacelle]

who ping

[ornate rivet]

idk

[hollow pier]

blocked

[ornate rivet]

some dungo ghost pinger

[hollow pier]

some dungo ghost new messager

[native wing]

who pinged me

[trim totem]

atomic radiance?

[copper nacelle]

ultrarad but it's bs

[cunning lagoon]

oh so ultrarad

[copper nacelle]

you get uhh

ultrarad +

lasers

always

[cunning lagoon]

cani get a uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[copper nacelle]

lasers

[cunning lagoon]

laser

[copper nacelle]

they intersect at random points

and overlap with everything

[cunning lagoon]

atrad is bullshit adn rng

[copper nacelle]

also the normal lasers don't go away after shooting till the attack ends

[ornate rivet]

I got to last phase hitless

[copper nacelle]

and the climb thing

[ornate rivet]

ez pz

[civic hare]

hey can i get a fuckin uhhhhhhh pufferfish

[ornate rivet]

just fly up with redwing

only problem is, I am too fast for radiance

[weak lodge]

well kurosh do i deserve the rank of DLK now

[vapid cape]

I've gotten to pogo phase 3 times

[cunning lagoon]

bop my infinite grimm scores first

[weak lodge]

well shit

[cunning lagoon]

or either of my pop times

[weak lodge]

ok i can tackle PoP

[civic hare]

i havent played ngg, would you say that ultrad is more or less bullshit than that

[weak lodge]

what's the record?

[cunning lagoon]

ngg has 2 phases

p1 is more fair than ultrarad

p2 is significantly worse than ultrarad

[vapid cape]

NGG is hard to the point of being unfun IMO.

I don't like it. It's not enjoyable.

[weak lodge]

i like watching kurosh ddark it

[mortal trout]

what about ultirad

[vapid cape]

It was a fun rush at first but getting serious with it just pissed me off.

[cunning lagoon]

record is 2:20 by yours truly

[weak lodge]

nice

2:19 here i come

[cunning lagoon]

alternatively you could try doing king's pass in 6 jumps or hitlessing ngg

[weak lodge]

but seriously tho have i done good?

[cunning lagoon]

if you end up getting burnt out on pop

yeah ofc

[mortal trout]

you can do king's pass in 6 jumps

?

[weak lodge]

well my mentor is proud of me

[cunning lagoon]

boi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR9mKQy3K-U

you are in for a treat

[mortal trout]

gonna try that tbh

[cunning lagoon]

nah u wont

[copper nacelle]

he might try it

[mortal trout]

probably true

[copper nacelle]

he'll just give up

in like

[cunning lagoon]

yeah you might try it

lol

[copper nacelle]

10-20 seconds

tops

[cunning lagoon]

just watch the vid tbh

[ornate rivet]

just use debug mod and do it in 1 jump

[civic hare]

doesn't it rely on like 2% rng or something

[ornate rivet]

you all make this too complicated

[cunning lagoon]

yeah its ridiculously hard to execute and it has a shit ton of rng on top of that

[mortal trout]

kurosh why tf did you do that

[hazy sentinel]

he's a krythom alt

[mortal trout]

makes sense

[native wing]

whos krythom

[mortal trout]

[cunning lagoon]

some random guy

[native wing]

you mean you

[cunning lagoon]

hes not even that good at the game tbh

cant even beat the game in 18 nail presses

[copper nacelle]

edited messages don't ping right

[cunning lagoon]

<@&328354344313421825>

[copper nacelle]

for roles

ok good

[vapid cape]

alright so, completely unsurprisingly, atomic radiance is utter bullshit. But NOT undoable, at least as far as platforms phase goes.

If you get lucky I don't see why this can't be done.

she's still got "free" moves and has moments where she just doesn't do shit.

[mortal trout]

milky are you gonna beat this

[copper nacelle]

can you heal after lasers on normal abs rad

[vapid cape]

If you can string together a run that nukes her before she goes "jk I'm impossible" a kill is feasible

[copper nacelle]

cause you def can on atomic rad

[cunning lagoon]

you can heal everywhere on normal absrad 🤔

[copper nacelle]

i never tried

[cunning lagoon]

same

[vapid cape]

I might actually try to beat this for an hour our two

[mortal trout]

an hour our two

[copper nacelle]

why

[vapid cape]

I don't know what fuckery awaits at the climb, but I imagine I'm going to quit when I see it.

[hazy sentinel]

a power shower hour our tower or two

[cunning lagoon]

lmao who shower

s

[mortal trout]

lmao who has good personal hygiene

[cunning lagoon]

same

[mortal trout]

[copper nacelle]

oh boy

[native wing]

not elderbug

[copper nacelle]

nice climb

oh b o y

[native wing]

🤢

[cunning lagoon]

🤢 💉

yo whjere tf is gfradow

is he dead

[trim totem]

56 did you make any progress on pp

[copper nacelle]

no

[cunning lagoon]

well yes my pp hgas grown quite a lot

thank you for asking

[copper nacelle]

.

[copper nacelle]

\🤢

[hazy sentinel]

\😬

yw

[cunning lagoon]

🌞

:)