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#archived-modding-development
cunning lagoon
is that p2
cunning lagoon
drugs 
copper nacelle
so i can see how they do the turn around mid-slash shit
native wing
you will always be drugs to me 
ornate rivet
do you all still use the fsm mod thing where you have to go to the boss whose fsms you want?
cunning lagoon
copper nacelle
i use all 3
there's the one from assets in pins
there's the fsm mod one which just gets them on deserialize
and there's modcommon dumping
i do all 3
because sometimes assets is a pain to find stuff
modcommon shows gameobject and component stuff
and flowcharts when you can't find stuff is still nice
ornate rivet
ok thankee
cunning lagoon
np
cunning lagoon
no clue i dont do such foolish things when fighting him
copper nacelle
.
ornate rivet
maybe that's why you suck at hollow knight kurosh
cunning lagoon
maybe i should start dashing through bosses
and using sharp shadow
that seems to work for reddit
copper nacelle
delete this
cunning lagoon
just dash through nkg with sharp shadow 😂
ornate rivet
will kdt ever finish the modding doc
weary oyster
how much hp this bitch got
copper nacelle
1.5k
weary oyster
dan
copper nacelle
is it enough
cunning lagoon
copper nacelle
ok he definitely turns around
if you dash through the first slash
oh
they added FaceObjects
anyone who shade dashes through pv is fucked now
cunning lagoon
oh no, not the FaceObjects
native wing
drugs😋
copper nacelle
is 3k hp for pale prince too much
ornate rivet
I shadow dash through pv though 
ornate rivet
how
copper nacelle
🙂
he turns towards you after each slash
so you'd dash through the first
and get hit by the second
etc
copper nacelle
| > u
u | >
u < |
u die
ornate rivet
I dont dash through that attack
copper nacelle
good
native wing
that was a bad visualization of what would happen tbh
copper nacelle
i tried ok
cunning lagoon
i agree
cunning lagoon
why does he have a big pp
weary oyster
I IU
II Iu
native wing
for me to cut it in half
native wing
whats 
for
cunning lagoon
it has to be doable no movement upgrades thank you very much
copper nacelle
just like abs rad right
native wing
no, thank you
cunning lagoon
yes just dont add a climbing section
copper nacelle
why does he have slash recovers
he should be murdering
not recovering
tc please
river eagle
@copper nacelle wait so the lost lord doesn't stagger at all?
river eagle
great, since it's the stagger sprites that are broken
weary oyster
and the headbang ones right
river eagle
like this I mean
ornate rivet
yea
copper nacelle
skurry is about to get wr
cunning lagoon
dont jinx it 
native wing
skurry about get wr
cunning lagoon
dont jinx it
copper nacelle
cunning lagoon
copper nacelle
jesus -16.4
cunning lagoon
does vys have a good thk
ornate rivet
56 I just tested pv and it does not turn back when you shadow dash
ornate rivet
oh I thought you meant they updated the game
copper nacelle
i wish
cunning lagoon
boi
copper nacelle
he's done it
native wing
Very nice
river eagle
by a couple of seconds
ornate rivet
why doesnt lost lord have hit animation
copper nacelle
yeah
azure vessel
ok ty
solemn rivet
no, for that randomizer you need to first use the donate button
only then it unlocks a full new set of mods to install
azure vessel
sellout 
river eagle
@copper nacelle the uncompressed version of the sprite file is 32mb 
copper nacelle
exotic venture
high quality, dang
compact sedge
the sprites are poorly compressed pngs. They aren't completely uncompressed pngs or they'd be even bigger, but they are bad enough that I can usually get about half the size opening them up and saving them in krita
and png compression is completely lossless
river eagle
ouch
compact sedge
so it's not like jpgs where you get artifacts
river eagle
so what was that site again where you could quickly share files?
cunning lagoon
ah you finally went back to a readable name
distant fern
Did someone @ everyone, cause I got a notification here
distant fern
Me?
distant fern
How did you get me, my username is dave
copper nacelle
probably
cunning lagoon
Same
weary oyster
have you killed this guy
cunning lagoon
I hitlessed it old nail only
cunning lagoon
No lol
weary oyster
spells?
cunning lagoon
So no spells
weary oyster
okay what
weary oyster
what charms
copper nacelle
cunning lagoon
Strength qs mop ln
copper nacelle
glad to hear it's not too easy tbh
cunning lagoon
There arent manu pther options when banning spells
hazy sentinel
empty hop out of the arena and softlock the player
ornate rivet
cunning lagoon
So does "old nail only" imply no move ugradesbor what
I always took it as using your nail as the onlyvsource of damage
weary oyster
i dunno its interpretable many ways
civic hare
hey could i get access to the drive
weary oyster
pins
hollow pier
think he means adding things to the drive
civic hare
^
cunning lagoon
This tbh
civic hare
my real name isn't secret so whatever
cunning lagoon
Ok Alex
native wing
what if
native wing
no
cunning lagoon
And the grimmkin
native wing
that was just a phase
weary oyster
why did you make the blobs smaller
river eagle
@copper nacelle it's 3am so I'm gonna go commit sleep. So if there's any changes you'd like to be made on the sprites just ping me and I'll check them tomorrow
I mean, today, but later
cunning lagoon
Unless you sleeo for 21 hours 🤔
river eagle
native wing
men who dont sleep for 21 hours 👌 
weary oyster
oh okay i guess lost lord isnt that bad when you figure out you can literally shade dash towards him on any attack he does
vapid cape
I do Lost Lord with dash slash
civic hare
ultrad is designed around shade dash. there's a bit where you're supposed to pogo where i had ddark deal damage when you hit the spikes though
double beam sweep with just shade dash is pretty exciting. after you easily dodge through the first one, the second chases you to the edge of the screen until shade cloak finally refreshes, and then you can finally dig your heels in and dash through it, and there;s always only just enough time
copper nacelle
oh yeah and for the gdrive if you want access pm a modder your email
civic hare
k
compact sedge
and swear on the cross that you won't delete any files on the drive
and by cross
I mean radiance t posing
civic hare
radiance kinda tposes when she casts
copper nacelle
it's just going to radiance in HoG right?
oh boy
i still need to add a new lever to lost lord and stuff
because i still want people to be able to do lost kin w/out disabling the mod
wtf
lasers
pain
@civic hare you should tell #hk-discussion about this they'd love it
ornate rivet
there's an ultra rad mod now?
civic hare
this mod proves that regular absrad isn't bullshit
native wing
yes
civic hare
going back to it is like training with weights on
copper nacelle
can balls
like
not exist
jesus
i got to spikes
and then ddarked to get rid of them
before i realized my mistake
and died
civic hare
got em
ornate rivet
it wont prove anything to #hk-discussion aka lets hate on abs rad channel
copper nacelle
cause shade dash gets rid of them too
civic hare
just ddark
though the spikes are constantly being sent to UP, so it goes straight into the 2 second antic instead of waiting longer
copper nacelle
oh ok
i get to spike floor with like 2hp
and then i unexist
any tip for balls
civic hare
if you have horizontal space, use it
civic hare
jump to get the balls some vertical momentum and kite them into the ground easier. you have to pay attention and weave between them most of the time since there's always going to be multiple at once. the properties of the balls themselves are unchanged
vapid cape
is ultrad finished!?
copper nacelle
first release is out
would highly recommend
might go for hitlessing this before ngg
tbh
it's super fun
vapid cape
Fuck yeah you do. I'm on this like @cold olive to False Knight's ass
vapid cape
Your stream did that well enough without me
copper nacelle
got to sword rain
vapid cape
It's not on Mod Manager. There a manual link floating around above I should look for?
copper nacelle
civic hare
adding it to modlinks.xml rn, should only take a second
copper nacelle
Pog
vapid cape
I already got it manual. Bout to jump in
copper nacelle
civic hare
modlinks.xml uploaded, should be in the launcher now, i probably didn't fuck shit up
ornate rivet
ok ult rad is amazing
civic hare
thanks!
vapid cape
FUCK almost first tried her ass
I died because you TOOK AWAY MY PHASE 6 PLATFORRRMS
You're such a dick, I love it
ornate rivet
we need more platforming bosses
vapid cape
My initial thoughts on that one try and that one try alone, WOW that's good stuff. That "new" phase is brilliant. I don't know if I'd call this "fair" but it's sure exciting
civic hare
I don't know if I'd call this "fair" but it's sure exciting this is the best possible endorsement
my primary design goal was to freak people out
cold olive
Do I need to download a new mod installer to get ultra radiance on there?
copper nacelle
no
civic hare
it should appear in the installer if i did it right
cold olive
I'm not seeing it in there.
civic hare
for now you can download it here https://github.com/crazya02/hollowknight-ultimatumradiance
copper nacelle
did you delete the old modlinks
civic hare
i renamed it
copper nacelle
eee
civic hare
h
copper nacelle
on the installer now
copper nacelle
yeah
native wing
why is rain world bad
native wing
u
civic hare
i
vapid cape
GOT HER
Second try. That is my favorite modded boss by far
AMAZING fucking work here
civic hare
thank you!
urban olive
glacial panther
from hearsay I approve of all the changes except making climb lasers faster
civic hare
the laser cue is the same length, but the shot ends faster and it goes to the next one much faster
glacial panther
oh that's fine
honestly lasers ending faster might make it easier because you can't shade dash into the end frames of one
vapid cape
Yeah, my winning run actually flawlessly did the climb
luck was an element sure, but it's not as bad as it sounds
platforms phase is, as usual, the hardest part IMO
civic hare
yeah, platforms got the least amount of special attention. it’s plenty hard enough already
I could’ve added spikes to it, but I’m a better person than that
glacial panther
adding spikes that randomly swapped between platforms would be neat
but probably super fucking hard to implement
vapid cape
The final phase actually might do this already?
civic hare
final phase just has some spikes on the one specific platform, the other one always disappears
vapid cape
Final phase seems like it might be a touch random. My death happened because the right platform fell away, and the left was still there unobstructed from my glance. Winning run, neither of the platforms went away, and one had spikes.
ornate rivet
nighty night time for me
civic hare
wait what
vapid cape
Maybe I just didn't see the spikes the first time.
civic hare
if 2nd plat doesn’t die before spikes, that’s a bug
vapid cape
But I'm pretty sure both platforms stuck around on my winning run
I was scared of it vanishing from under me anyway so I still pogo'd the spike platform
unborn badger
no i want to experience it for myself
copper nacelle
u
unborn badger
oh did you make this
copper nacelle
thanks i try
ornate rivet
remove cutscene from the abs rad fight and make it how the regular radiance works pls
PLS
copper nacelle
qol has that but better
copper nacelle
Same
ornate rivet
????????
@civic hare
bug
https://clips.twitch.tv/CreativeSnappyDadPoooound
did enough damage to trigger next phase but radiance didnt start next phase yet void came up anyways
weary oyster
oof
civic hare
What the fuck
civic hare
oh ok so I can just blame tc
ornate rivet
that happens in abs rad too?
hollow pier
yes
ornate rivet
nito
solemn rivet
gwyn
weak lodge
yea if you go high enough you can trigger the void to climb
vapid cape
@civic hare Posting once again to say, ulti radiance rules and I love you for making it.
THIS feels like a proper superboss.
civic hare
thanks
vapid cape
I'm trying to radiant kill it with no charms but I may just... not.
This doesn't feel like a boss that's MEANT to be hitless'd.
civic hare
Yeah I’ve never done hitless. It sounds like you’re already better at the fight than I am though, so who knows lol
vapid cape
It's possible but it probably would end up pretty lame. I imagine a radiant kill of the boss would "skip" too much of it to be exciting
if she does horizontal daggers and you got 2 shrieks loaded, she basically handed you a third of her health right there.
cold olive
@civic hare I want to chime in too and say that Ultimatum Radiance is EXCELLENT
vapid cape
pogo phase can also be entirely skipped in one attack if she does orbs.
cold olive
Sure it has some RNG patterns that can't be avoided at times, but it's INCREDIBLE
vapid cape
It wouldn't be too exciting a watch
cold olive
@civic hare I approve of the cool things this mod allows though https://clips.twitch.tv/FancyLaconicSwanPartyTime
civic hare
Yeah I was surprised by how playable the super orbs ended up being, they’re the most drastically sped up thing in the mod
Nothing’s more satisfying than kiting 8 orbs into the ground at once
compact sedge
I approve of those orbs
cold olive
Yeah, dodging all those orbs while continually dealing damage to radiance
Felt SO good
By the way I meant to ask but forgot @civic hare I didn't notice any change in the side nail walls. Was there supposed to be a change or?
Or did I just not notice one?
civic hare
Nah, I felt like they wouldn’t really benefit from being sped up
cold olive
I agree on that front, I was just wondering if there was some other change.
The extra nails from the sky is cool because it creates these weird patterns you gotta slowly walk in
Side nails can't really get that
cold olive
Or, put another wave in there like the normal Radiance.
Normal Radiance has 4 waves, not 3.
😛
Though that might just create even more overlapping patterns so probably not a great idea.
vapid cape
I guess there's nothing wrong with em being a breather attack either.
cold olive
Oh, if I can make a suggestion though @civic hare
During the pogo phase, please make the floor spikes reappear quicker.
I keep being thrown off by how long they take to respawn.
deep flicker
Hello. I'm wondering if anybody has a list of Launch Options for Hollow Knight on Steam.
copper nacelle
the only ones i know of are
-screen-fullscreen 0/1
-popupwindow
-window-mode exclusive
vapid cape
fuckin-
I had charmless radiant on lock without even trying
and then died to final phase cause I got nervous
fair rampart
Hey yall, I finally got around to fixing that hiveblood cost bug with exaltation
it should work properly now
mmk, there we go
v1.0.4.3 is the one you're looking for
copper nacelle
i mean what
floral iris
i mean what
copper nacelle
i mean what
thick glacier
may i ask were I could find all the mods
copper nacelle
📌
fair rampart
hiveblood fix officially works gamers
game is playable again
i also added a new one while I was at it
sprite to be replaced, idea stolen
compact sedge
like, it spawns the spell?
fair rampart
it spawns the spell's projectile
it's not affected by upgrades etc
still a spirit, not shade soul even if you haveit, etc
copper nacelle
probably spell1prefab
copper nacelle
@floral iris e
compact sedge
inb4: "hey can someone help me download dreamshield coop?"
but if it is that pls spit it out
civic hare
quick minor ultrad bugfix update, platform at the end should always disappear now https://github.com/crazya02/hollowknight-ultimatumradiance/releases/tag/v1.0.1.0
copper nacelle
rude
compact sedge
(don't mind me subtly sneakilly git cloning this repo)
fair rampart
🅱ost 🅱ord
civic hare
more like last lard amirite
copper nacelle
.
civic hare
with the new ultimatum radiance mod, absolute radiance is now obsolete radiance
floral iris
ok so here's my Massive Moss Charger redesign.
first things first, to hopefully deter cheese, the two walls of the arena are covered in thorns and the boss doesn't take as much knockback. and the left exit of the arena is locked until you kill the boss. you don't get soul from hitting the boss since you're not actually hitting it, you're just hitting leaves. the boss can pop out of the ground on either side of the arena, even if the player is standing right where it pops up. this way the player is forced to stand in the middle and simply react quickly, the way the boss was intended to be (i assume).
so after you defeat mmc, all the little bois run and burrow into the ground, and then two slightly less massive moss chargers (but still larger than normal moss chargers) come out of the ground at the same time. one charges and the other leaps. they are immune to knockback (so that the timing doesn't get messed up and they always pop up together). the side they pop up from is random, so sometimes they're together, and sometimes they're on opposite sides. this goes on until you kill one, at which point the bois burrow again and two normal moss chargers pop out. they behave like normal moss chargers, except that they never come out at the same time so that they're more frequent and less bunched together. after you've killed the larger one it also splits into two moss chargers. then the player just has to defeat a constant stream of moss chargers. after they're all dead the gate on the far side opens up the end
copper nacelle
jesus
floral iris
yeah it shouldn't be too hard since it's an early game boss
trim totem
just upgrade a good boss
copper nacelle
terrible kill
but also it's almost 1am
and i can't be bothered getting another one
trim totem
is this radiant
copper nacelle
no
trim totem
nub
trim totem
I'm going to finish editing the sprites first
copper nacelle
also pretty sure this improved my abs rad like 300%
my abs rad was really really trash before this
trim totem
absrad no charms nail only
copper nacelle
even if this kill is really bad cause i'm tired as fuck
also pv now faces you after each slash as requested
it's really painful
compact sedge
im not gonna lie it looks like there's some undodgable patterns if you get bad rng
not 100% sure tho
compact sedge
I'm worried about constant spamming of beams on the all the floor is spikes phase
copper nacelle
floor of spikes is the easiest phase tbh
if you want to
you can farm soul for a bit
then just tank a hit and shriek like 5 times
also did you know removing the recover states on slashes is a terrible idea
the collider stays active forever
so you can parry air
compact sedge
also what happens if you dd the all spikes floor
copper nacelle
u die
compact sedge
are the spikes special I guess
copper nacelle
but if it starts balls right before spike phase
you get like 8 slow balls
wtf
explain this
Slash1
Slash 2
Slash 3
what is consistency
trim totem
can you not change it
warped sinew
yeah im gonna need that radiance mod
in my life
that final phase is the best thing ever
you should spawn two of her in the platforming phase lol
copper nacelle
graig tries to kill everyone, 2k18
warped sinew
you can dive rads spikes btw
warped sinew
oops
floral iris
hey
warped sinew
ok
floral iris
hey graig
what do you think of my massive moss charger ideas :p
(you'll have to scroll up lol)
warped sinew
is that for like the ascended version or something?
floral iris
idk, i was more think like straight up replacing the old fight in greenpath
vapid cape
I settled. I am uploading an Attuned ultrad
warped sinew
like as a mod?
copper nacelle
yeah he has to move onto ngg
vapid cape
just because I think that fight I did looked REALLY cool
cold olive
Yeah, that's the reason I saved my fight too Milky 😛
floral iris
well it's just hypotheticals for now, but yes, a hypothetical mod
warped sinew
im having a break from ngg lol i got to like 3k damage ten times now hitless then i take a STUPID hit, i cry every time
vapid cape
I was going for Ascended but I realized the way I was trying to do it just didn't... fit.
warped sinew
it sounds like a cool mod
floral iris
thx
vapid cape
I wanna SHOW OFF the boss. This meant I was throwing out runs because I passed phases before it used a particular attack.
ascended is just too unforgiving to not only win, but hold out for the perfect showcase run.
warped sinew
but i dont think it should replace the normal boss in the game, it would be cool if it spawns after you kill the normal one
floral iris
you mean like a dream boss or something?
copper nacelle
🅱scended
cold olive
@vapid cape Speaking of showing off the boss, d'you think my run did a good job of that? 😃
vapid cape
I didn't actually see it because I was jumping into stream. Relink me!
cold olive
warped sinew
yeah dream boss works well.
floral iris
mhm
cold olive
I feel like it showed off the boss pretty well
Maybe a slightlu fast platform phase
But the dodges during the platform phase were fuckin' sick though
floral iris
maybe i'll try and actually make it. it shouldn't be too complicated, i mean most of the assets are already in the game
cold olive
Shoutouts to the random host during the climb that cost me a hit btw :^)
vapid cape
My net can't HANDLE this 60FPS shit. ...Or maybe it's my comp clogged with rendering?
cold olive
You can't watch the video? :<
vapid cape
gimme a sec to find out.
warped sinew
that radiance should do three damage i think
vapid cape
It's a GREAT modded boss, Graig
cold olive
3 damage would be too much IMO
warped sinew
yeah looks really fun
vapid cape
it's kinda bullshitty at more than one point but it rules
cold olive
The higher intensity patterns is already "bad" enough so to speak
It really doesn't need increased damage per hit as well
warped sinew
i take it its on the mod drive?
vapid cape
can always challenge it Ascended!
cold olive
@warped sinew I really love that that boss has a fully aerial phase.
It's super cool to have to stay in the air at all times
civic hare
wow @cold olive i just watched that kill and that clutch ending at one mask was super good
cold olive
Yeah one mask for the whole final phase was tight
The only thing I dislike about Ultimatum Radiance is the climb tbh
The lasers fire so damn fast
civic hare
interesting that you just pogoed on radiance directly, i thought people would pogo off the spike platform more
cold olive
Everything else is really good
Nah fuck that, I ain't pogoing down there
Running the orbs off the top of the screen despawns them
civic hare
yeah that makes sense
cold olive
Being up top is legitimately safer than pogoing a stationary platform
silk jetty
imma commit awaken't, gnight 
civic hare
you're still staying in the air all the time so it's cool
cold olive
Also I had Sharp Shadow so my dash range is pretty long
Unsure if you can do that pogo strat without that
The extra dash range helps me reach her to continue the pogo even if she goes across the whole screen.
But yeah I thought the boss was very exciting
You did a very good job 😃
Also I love just how COOL it looks when you successfully dodge the super orb patterns.
vapid cape
It took some effort but, I saw it. Nice fight!
I'm uploading my battle now. Give it, oh... knowing my internet... fucking tomorrow?
cold olive
How did you like that orb dodge? 😛
vapid cape
Ballsy!
civic hare
good shit
cold olive
You can also kinda tell in that video that I'm not super familiar with the dash range of Sharp Shadow
During the climb I overshoot platforms very often
vapid cape
My video isn't quite as gutsy, I took it slow and "showcased" stuff.
cold olive
I think I did a pretty good showcase though 😛
vapid cape
So I made it to platforms without damage, just kinda showing off "this is how you act here."
cold olive
Yeah I'm terrible at the big platform phase
I mean I went pretty low during that fight but overall I think I played it pretty well
I just stumbled a bit at the very end
Also, it was funny going back to Absolute Radiance after Ultimatum Radiance, she felt so slow
vapid cape
I only got hit 4 times! 3 technically. The third hit also threw me into a pit for a 3 damage wombo combo
I got hit by... I think an orb on platform phase, and I also embarrasingly slipped off into the void when manuvering around
cold olive
It's also pretty funny to go back to the normal Radiance after doing all this
Normal radiance is legit so slow I only took damage from walking into attacks because I was distracted/just being dumb
vapid cape
She's... pretty much a Vengefly, now.
The bar's been set so high by absrad, let alone this one.
cold olive
Godmaster really just pushed our skill level so high.
civic hare
remember the halcyon days when normal radiance was the hardest boss
cold olive
Back when I struggled with beating normal radiance with old nail only FeelsGoodMan
vapid cape
Is it sad that I kinda wanna do a p5 all bind run with this boss involved just to flex?
What a dumb question. of course it is.
copper nacelle
do it w/ mantis gods, lost lord, ngg, and ultimatum radiance
and pale prince whenever it's finished
easy
cold olive
Mantis gods is bad IMO
copper nacelle
u
cold olive
Doesn't give any new interesting patterns, just sped it up to just about the limit of human reaction time.
vapid cape
I think mantis gods may break SoB so I'd rather avoid them anyways.
I SHOULD include Lost Lord and Pale Prince tho
cold olive
If you manage a full bindings p5 run with all those mod bosses, I'm not joining you on that mountaintop.
That sounds way too difficult for me.
vapid cape
Lost Lord shouldn't be too terribly tough with practice, he's kinda immensely weak to dash slashes, markoth style.
Just would have to adjust to his speed, find the absolutely safe openings, and bammo
copper nacelle
did you know you can fuck up people using shade cloak by making pure vessel turn towards them after every slash
the more you know
compact sedge
u monster
I love it
but tbf to do PV radiant I had to unlearn shade cloak dodge of slash attack
and learn jumping
cuz jumping is just better against it
vapid cape
...Well, I did some basic testing for this "modded boss p5" thing and found out there's some issues with Lost Lord, too
copper nacelle
?
vapid cape
He effects Broken Vessel in weird ways. BV's drop shots are blue, his "lunge forward" animation seems to be borrowing from LL and it sends him forward a pathetically short distance, too.
copper nacelle
whatmst've the fuck
vapid cape
I also went to check on normal Radiance. She acts 100% normal.
copper nacelle
also lost lord doesn't exist in the pantheons
wait what
i just battled broken vessel and nothing different than normal happened
vapid cape
Let me restart the game and have LL enabled totally solo
vapid cape
Where do I find it? I already closed out.
copper nacelle
nice
cold olive
❤
vapid cape
I just wanted to check his AWESOME NLUE PAINTJOB
but he was orange on stream. Maybe because I looked at BV first?
fair rampart
whats pale prince
fair rampart
so u could say that pp is hard
copper nacelle
.
fair rampart
trim totem
did you make pale prince
copper nacelle
started
the face object thing tc uses is dumb as fuck
i made my own in like 30 seconds and it's like 50 lines less
trim totem
they're like dream bosses
copper nacelle
the incentive is having fun
vapid cape
Almost all modded bosses remix the fight in some way, too. They're rarely just numbers
fair rampart
i have a cold empty soul.............. i can have no fun..................
vapid cape
Lost Lord is a MUCH different boss to Lost Kin for example
and the brand newly released Ultimatum Radiance is a little... different from absrad too.
fair rampart
in any case i can understand how it could be interesting for peeps who are challenge-seekers but I'm not a challenge-seeker at heart
copper nacelle
try being a challenge seeker at heart
fair rampart
u
vapid cape
Mantis gods are fairly boring though, and while I have mixed feelings about NGG my ultimate conclusion is I don't think he's very fun.
fair rampart
- vanilla already has a lot of difficult stuff like radiant bosses and the bindings
vapid cape
NGG is fun in the "wtf is THIS, why!?" kind of way. Actually fighting him? Ehhhhhh.
fair rampart
i'm not good enough or patient enough to radiant all bosses like verulean etc
copper nacelle
i found ngg pretty fun
fair rampart
i'm a casual
vapid cape
My problem with NGG is he's so... one-note. You basically just do the same thing again and again and try not to slip up on your reactions. It's one of those fights that are kinda already scripted "for" you and I'm not really a fan of those
copper nacelle
¯_(ツ)_/¯
fair rampart
tbf that's how a lot of bosses are
absrad in particular is a few patterns taken to their extreme
it comes down to muscle memory more than timing
i think PV is the best designed boss in GM in that regard
vapid cape
Boiled down to bare basics, yeah, that can describe a lot of HK combat
but I think NGG takes things too far.
fair rampart
he has a lot of patterns that interact well and muscle memory is equally as important as playing smart
cold olive
It's probably also why Ultimatum Radiance feels so spicy right now
She actually forces different patterns than Absolute Radiance
vapid cape
If you don't do him the "right" way, you're turbofucked. End of story. Can't really carve your own path with it.
You see one NGG fight, you pretty much seen em all.
fair rampart
i like normal nkg but i'm glad ngg exists
copper nacelle
graig vs kuro is descently different
fair rampart
i know some people who just want to make everything as hard as humanly possible
so them having a way to do that is nice
reminds me of a friend of mine who played modded MC but included as many mods as possible while fully knowing he wouldn't play most of them
it's like
dude u don't have the ram for that
cold olive
Yeah but the options tho
vapid cape
That's just my opinion tho. I don't find NGG a great experience. A nice challenge, easily, but I don't think I'd really wanna go challenge him for the joy of it. I'd do it to "prove" something.
fair rampart
he didn't know what most of them did, he just wanted a pack with as many mods as possible
i like to make my own packs since I have a lot of options and also know how to interact with em
vapid cape
Lost Lord and now ultrad are modded bosses I DO find fun in that flexible kinda way
fair rampart
ultimatum radiance is such a weird name though
the definition of the word works well but the word itself clashes completely in a name
final radiance, ultimate radiance, utmost radiance, and supreme radiance all come to mind as names that do the same thing but work better as actual names
you could also go mega radiance for full JRPG
vapid cape
Speaking of mods! I wanted to mention that I also took a cursory glance at the new glorified charm.
fair rampart
it wasn't fully done and was implemented by accident but as it was functional I did some polish and tossed it in
vapid cape
I... advise moving that effect somewhere else or take the soul cost from it. Being frank, it's something a player may not WANT, and may find it really intrusive if all they want is dreamwielder's vanilla effect.
Maybe make it fire off if at full soul or something
fair rampart
ye that occurred to me and I was gonna remove it but it accidentally made it in
i was thinking that dreamnail hits should give a free spell cast instead, but I dunno if there's hooks for tracking that
cold olive
What does the new dreamwielder do?
fair rampart
nail hits have a chance to consume 10% soul and fire off a vengeful spirit, in addition to the vanilla ver
that's exaltation's variant
fair rampart
in playtesting it worked alright with sagesoul but comboing shouldn't be the be-all for a charm
except ones that are designed around comboing like dcrest
yeah, there's still no api hooks for dream nail hits
maybe I can find the vanilla hook
copper nacelle
fsm
rain cedar
It's not fsm though
fair rampart
so I should be able to hook that and add onto it, presumably
dream nail guy = get a free spellcast, not stacking
seems decent, maybe too strong
copper nacelle
wow ruining my 1 cycle uumuu plans
fair rampart
i dunno if spell soul cost can be modified like that but it probably can
ah well
most people who use exaltation are probably busy stacking spell charms like i did anyway
I remember an old variant i had for grimmchild called something like "troupe melody" that gave you a different buff every second
cycling in a set pattern ala the notes of a song
copper nacelle
why is there no skin color variants for weary
:weary::skin-tone-5:
🏿
good emote
🏻
trim totem
😩
copper nacelle
🏼
trim totem
because it's yellow
trim totem
56 aer you brown
copper nacelle
wow doxed
rain cedar
u
copper nacelle
yes
trim totem
yusuf more like yusuck lmao got em
copper nacelle
.
copper nacelle
no
rain cedar
Yes
copper nacelle
u
rain cedar
Same
copper nacelle
@trim totem https://streamable.com/864ra i think this is too slow
copper nacelle
it requires better timing
if you get too close to the edge of him he just slaps you
maybe i'll make it so he goes the same distance as slash 1 on each slash
copper nacelle
no
tight swan
sad
copper nacelle
sorry not sorry
tight swan
copper nacelle
ok i fixed it
now he murders you
shade dash dead
should i make it so he can flip at any time during the dash
trim totem
dude make it so they can keep slashing for like 10 hits while progressively getting faster
anime shit
ember bloom
Just give him Markoth's shield.
copper nacelle
wdym
i can randomly throw attacks together with no connecting animation
aka close enough
trim totem
can you actually make animations from individual sprites
copper nacelle
probably
trim totem
then i might come up with some suggestions
you could also use some of the unused animations
copper nacelle
did you know that if he turns around he still goes in the wrong direction
ok fixed it probably
now he'll kill shade dash
copper nacelle
ee
leaden hedge
just do it
copper nacelle
the trick here is to just sleep
because the website will probably work in two hours
adios
ember bloom
Still waiting for Markoth with 4 shields
ember bloom
Give Nails shield
leaden hedge
give markoth 4 shields, and all his shields 4 shields too
ember bloom
And apply Death's Gambit UI for more
cold olive
Just give Markoth 8 shields, with 4 of them circling around him and 4 of them continually cycling the extend/retract pattern that he does
tight swan
also give 4 extend/retract shields to the 4 extend/retract shields
cold olive
Also give each of those 4 shields their own 4 shields that spin around them
Also each of the shields are actually invulnerable primal aspids 
tight swan
I think we are getting somewhere
trim totem
give him 4 shields but three of them are tiny and invisible so they randomly hit you constantly
ornate rivet
once the majority of the bosses get upgraded, doing a modded play through with something like redwing or lightbringer might not be as op
weary oyster
tfw hk subreddit
cunning lagoon
cunning lagoon
🤔
river eagle
wow papers no swearing here smh
flat forum
Hi Hal!
frigid gale
Foldy: Plays it off with a greeting
river eagle
cunning lagoon
flat forum
who made Ultimatum Radiance?
cunning lagoon
alek
flat forum
hm?
cunning lagoon
?
flat forum
Doesn't ring a bell
cunning lagoon
ok he still made it even if you dont know him
pallid cobalt
where would you recommend getting mods for HK?
cunning lagoon
wdym
pallid cobalt
A good site to get mods
river eagle
google drive
cunning lagoon
use the installer
flat forum
you can check the pinned messages here
there's one from me with a Google Drive link
or you can use Gradow's installer, right below it
river eagle
then don't die
cunning lagoon
true 😂
hollow pier
hmmmmmmmmm
cunning lagoon
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
u ever just
frigid gale
gj
mortal trout
kurosh I did that like 10 times
cunning lagoon
oof
ember bloom
We all did
mortal trout
except it was on the last phase occasionally
hollow pier
lmao just jump
mortal trout
or dash
cunning lagoon
i did it was just a really small hop
weary oyster
another one falls to the floaty double jump pepehands
honestly dont really get that design choice
cunning lagoon
you mean when you tap djump and you go super high?
weary oyster
no the fact that it doesnt activate immediately
you can see the wings appear for a split second before you die
cunning lagoon
i didnt even djump there
look at the nohboard
but yeah it's a really annoying there
thing*
weary oyster
no wait yea thats the new death fx
cunning lagoon
so is shriek rng or what
hollow pier
everything is rng
cunning lagoon
damn you tc
hollow pier
hits 3 more than 4 to be tbh
cunning lagoon
8 upvotes btw
hollow pier
who is dizzle
tranquil glen
floral furnace
kuro how do you do the Super Mega Fast 11 Slash Hit Omega Combo NKG Fire Pillar Special
i tried doing it awhile ago and i just d i e
cunning lagoon
hit the nail button 11 times
floral furnace
alright thank you
cunning lagoon
just watch the gif
and copy what i do
i shall post it again in case someone hasn't seen it yet 🙃
floral furnace
well i try, then i mix it up and fucking step on the lingering flames like its a fuckin landmine
floral furnace
yeah but its still trash so who would
cunning lagoon
you
cunning lagoon
x
floral furnace
greencheckmark
exotic venture
i'd run heavy blow
cunning lagoon
Heavy Bl🤢w
cunning lagoon
pp
copper nacelle
pale prince
cunning lagoon
pins
im getting real tired of this 5 rad absrad in a row thing
can someone else do it for me
floral furnace
but why