#archived-modding-development

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mortal trout
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t

analog ermine
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I have

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In c++

mortal trout
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well send it

river eagle
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then. post. it.

analog ermine
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But need c#

copper nacelle
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post it anyways

analog ermine
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C# will be true

copper nacelle
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.

exotic venture
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post your damn code since i'd say you wrote nothing

mortal trout
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we don't care if it doesn't work just show us whatever work you've done

analog ermine
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Give me a Day to rewrite it

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Its not that hard

exotic venture
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we're not giving you a day give what you have NOW.

analog ermine
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I think

river eagle
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fuck sake just post whatever you have right now, doesn't matter if it works or not

trim totem
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i found their code fellas

analog ermine
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From c++ to c#

mortal trout
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please just post whatever you have

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nobody here who can give you help believes you so

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you should post it

river eagle
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alright, seems like this isn't going anywhere. I'd just recommend ignoring him totally until he posts any proof.

mortal trout
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agreed

analog ermine
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But i cannot lie

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I cannot

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Nah...

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Why...

mortal trout
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please post your code

analog ermine
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Tiso Why? notlikequirrel

trim totem
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does this code happen to say hello world

mortal trout
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does this code happen to have nothing in it at all

vapid cape
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legendary bully

native wing
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we shall shut the up until it is done

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the proof

analog ermine
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Theres no half measures

trim totem
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tomorrow at 1:15 pm pst

exotic venture
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@river eagle will you delete his walls of "mod information" if he posts them

analog ermine
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If i have to show it

hollow pier
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just ask 56 he's modder

river eagle
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yeah since it's quite literally just spam before he posts any proof

analog ermine
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I need to show real working charm

exotic venture
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o yeah

vapid cape
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Ambitious projects are super commonly vaporware so I never expected much to come of it. It's a neat idea, but probably nothing more

hollow pier
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mys asking a mod to delete GWbratWhy

trim totem
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vaporwave?

mortal trout
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draco, I think you're lying 100%

trim totem
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oh

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ware

vapid cape
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vaporware, as in, never releases

mortal trout
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sorry but you refuse to post proof

trim totem
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i wish it was vaporwave

native wing
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vapor

analog ermine
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Since i cannot show the proof. Why you are spaming? Just like you said you dont must belive me right now. When i Got to show i will show it.

native wing
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Dir

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t

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dir

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t

copper nacelle
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but you can

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you could show the code that doesn't work

analog ermine
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Theres no half measures

hazy sentinel
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theres no doomed shrek

analog ermine
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Ok

mortal trout
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ok draco, then stop asking for help until you post proof then

analog ermine
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Dont belive me right now

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But dont spam

exotic venture
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we just won't believe you

native wing
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doomed shrek

analog ermine
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Ok

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Dont belive me if you want

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Its all okay for me

hazy sentinel
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ok i dont believe u

native wing
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Headed for a bright and prosperous future shrek imo

analog ermine
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"I will comeback"

mortal trout
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ok draco

hazy sentinel
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my father will hear about this

exotic venture
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come back with something that works instead of some nonexistent code

copper nacelle
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could've just posted non working code but ok

hollow pier
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then i would post qol.dll

native wing
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it is ok

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i have already hear

hazy sentinel
solemn rivet
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Ptk has got a point

copper nacelle
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I love mobile

hollow pier
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nice

solemn rivet
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Me too 56

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So handy

hollow pier
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never forget the 10 seconds i had a message pinned

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basically a modder at this point

native wing
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10 seconds

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1 second tbh

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but yeah basically a modder

hazy sentinel
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cherry madness and in it: no half measures and doomed shrek (lagre area)

native wing
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prosper

analog ermine
native wing
weak lodge
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elderbug what are we making fun of today? a corpse? me? same thing

native wing
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kill elderbug

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now

mortal trout
native wing
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what is this

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a comment on steam discussion

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?

mortal trout
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yes

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this is the review

dusky lion
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30.5SPACEhours

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At least he tried

mortal trout
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wait

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30 hours

native wing
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damn

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he only didnt recommend it because he felt he was to old to have the time

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TWICE

analog ermine
native wing
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what

analog ermine
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writing

mortal trout
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he recommended dead cells, even though he said he didn't like going over the same parts of the game again

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so

native wing
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Hmmmmm

mortal trout
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idk if it's a troll or not

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but

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it doesn't seem like it

native wing
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yeh

analog ermine
hazy sentinel
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is this code

native wing
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It's hot

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i guess

analog ermine
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Thanks to Daunter

native wing
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do yer work

trim totem
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good art

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now your part

native wing
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wait

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so would that e the charm symbol

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icon

exotic venture
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okay you have your texture

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now make it work

compact sedge
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this looks like valid code to me

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I mean just look at all the epoxy

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it's so glued together it might as well be Redwing.

dusky lion
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big yikes angle

exotic venture
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sunk the ship he was on just to drown the captain

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absolutely savage

weary oyster
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in infi grimm why does the flame pillar sometimes insta spawn under me

hazy sentinel
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that's a feature

upper grail
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"speed"

exotic venture
native wing
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Damn

dusky lion
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giving that a yikes for please stop

hollow pier
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where did kuro go

exotic venture
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he ascended

native wing
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sorry son

daring snow
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Ascended Kuro in HoG

native wing
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What would that be like

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im liking where this is going

cunning lagoon
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That's a bug

daring snow
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a dead bug

native wing
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wh

cunning lagoon
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When it happens its always the firsg time he does the pillar attack in a fight

hollow pier
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wow you didn't die

cunning lagoon
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So it's ki da annoying but it wont happen deep into a fight

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What

civic hare
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new WIP of Ultimatum Radiance. Vertical nail sweeps are sped way up now, fixed a bug where the second big beam sweeper sometimes wouldn't spawn, and the name "Ultimatum Radiance" actually appears at the start

hollow pier
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almost draco just gotta have 60 more lines buddy

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keep at it

native wing
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HELP

civic hare
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Next up: do something for horizontal sweeps, also there's a couple environmental hazard ideas I wanna try

native wing
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BUZZING

dusky lion
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Is Ultimatum firing diagonal light lances achievable

civic hare
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mmmaybe, i'd have to look into that

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haven't looked into the code/fsm that handles actually firing the lances, only the control fsm that handles frequency

hollow pier
native wing
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Ehmm

leaden hedge
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they don't

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unless you have nmg

hollow pier
leaden hedge
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grubsong :thonking:

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not dreamwielder

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the only good 1 slot charm

hollow pier
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wtf dood thorns is so good

native wing
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Eh

dusky lion
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What about thorns

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Not exactly good against rad absrad but it's great when you don't give a shit when travelling through areas

analog ermine
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thorns + baldur

leaden hedge
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calm down there

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we don't want to break the meta

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using charms that are too good

civic hare
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I myself keep heavy blow on at all times

daring snow
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you do heavy blow at all times?

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cocaine is a hell of a drug

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should probably relax a bit

weary oyster
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this pillar bug is actually so annoying

native wing
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No

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baldur shell smh

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my head

dusky lion
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not using king soul

cunning lagoon
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It shouldnt be happening that often

hollow pier
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ax is just cursed

weary oyster
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its like every 3rd tryt

cunning lagoon
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Wtf

hollow pier
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having to try 3 times omegalul

weary oyster
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guess ill just try to always be in the air on the first pilar attack

cunning lagoon
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It happens to me like once nn hour or sonething

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Damn

weary oyster
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ok why am i dealing like double dmg to him

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my nail is doing 98 per hit

hollow pier
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he's actually two nkgs

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you've been prank'd

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tricked into doing ngg phase 2

weary oyster
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D:

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wtf every time i save and quit my nail does 50 dmg more

somber cedar
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I want that

native wing
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thats p hot

weary oyster
tranquil glen
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don't distract him he needs to do kp

dusky lion
native wing
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whats kp

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please inform

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be direct

tranquil glen
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kings pass

fair rampart
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Is the randomizer any good? I've seen it mentioned a few times.

tranquil glen
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he's doing a segment in my low jump run for me

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the kings pass segment

native wing
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oh

dusky lion
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also use the enemy randomizer if your computer is physically possible enough to load every scene at once

rain cedar
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That's not what it does

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It loads most scenes in a row and caches the enemies

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So all that's loaded at once is enemies

fair rampart
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can someone link me a guide to get the randomizer going? it has me curious

rain cedar
compact sedge
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@civic hare do you have source code for your project? I'm interested in seeing what modifications you do to the radiance in particular.

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and how you do em

weary oyster
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angle do you have any idea what caused my damage in inf grimm to get tripled

compact sedge
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uhhhhhhhhh

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idk how you did that

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did it go back after you died

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?

weary oyster
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nah

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it just was like that after i save and quit

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and then i save and quit again and it was even more

compact sedge
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oh no

weary oyster
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only other mod installed was qol

compact sedge
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ohno

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that means

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I forgot to do -= on one of the hooks I added

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probably the fotf hook

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so it got added multiple times

weary oyster
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oh yea maybe if you quit out inside the dream

compact sedge
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ill fix it in like 45 minutes but I need to eat something because I'm kinda sick rn

weary oyster
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it doesnt reset the damage

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or something

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yea cool just letting you know

compact sedge
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no that's good to know lul

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now keep quitting while inside the menu and go set a high score

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it won't count

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but do it anyway

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just to rub it in DLs face

weary oyster
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lol

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i tried with 180 dmg nail and still couldnt so

compact sedge
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well obviously you just need 1800 nail damage

copper nacelle
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@compact sedge

compact sedge
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ayy

copper nacelle
rain cedar
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copper nacelle
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Same

compact sedge
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oh blessed I couldn't find the link from google searching "ultimatum radiance"

civic hare
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i was just about to tag lol

compact sedge
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sorry my dude about ponging you then

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ooh ngg code

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well uh just gonna throw this out there but if you want you should use modcommon which has fsmutil built in

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and then you could get rid of two of your classes

leaden hedge
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it says its based on lost lord 🤔

dusky lion
compact sedge
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nice

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My first thought was NGG because:

BossFinder -> AbsFinder

and an FsmUtil file

leaden hedge
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lost lord is a rip off of ngg tbh

copper nacelle
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u

leaden hedge
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it has KinFinder

copper nacelle
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yes

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i should fix that

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it's bad

compact sedge
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honestly so was IG version 0.4 and below until I tore it down and rewrote half of it.

civic hare
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original AbsFinder do not steal

compact sedge
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anyway I only noticed it because no offense but [bossname]Finder is a dumb class name. and I say that as someone who uses the absolute worst class names ever. Like mine make everyone elses look like they were picked by a masters in CS

copper nacelle
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but that's literally what it does

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unlike kdt's GotEm

compact sedge
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oh cuz kdt's is called BossFinder and it not only finds the boss but also does everything else

leaden hedge
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well it originally only found the boss

rain cedar
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Yeah lower_underscore is pretty disgusting

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I agree

civic hare
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now that you mentioned it, I have taped a few things onto AbsFinder now that don't have anything to do with finding the boss

leaden hedge
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but if it finds it, it might aswell change it too

civic hare
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I'm too good for silly things like "code quality"

compact sedge
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absolutely me irl

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honestly the worst part is not even lower_undercase

leaden hedge
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just remove all the changing code, and put it in boss changer

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and make it all static functions

compact sedge
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it's that half the classes have a completely useless adjective

leaden hedge
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and use that intenseface

compact sedge
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and also

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redwing_flamegen_retuns is the most meme name of any cs file ever

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it's accurate but it's still meme af

leaden hedge
compact sedge
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Zee module is complete

rain cedar
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So I decided to test how bad you can make class names

compact sedge
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ohno

leaden hedge
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gunz2 has similar names for all their classes too

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although I can't find the src on my pc

copper nacelle
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delete this

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you can have emoji and stuff in classnames iirc

trim totem
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56 fight that guys absrad buff

dusky lion
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highly cursed image

trim totem
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and stream it

copper nacelle
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i would

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but like

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latin test

trim totem
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oof

leaden hedge
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replace all the letters with the emoji letters instead

dusky lion
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is every unicode symbol applicable

rain cedar
trim totem
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do u just put in thw whole sprite sheet

civic hare
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to enforce code quality across hollow knight mod repos, i'm creating a script to detect boss finder classes called BossFinderFinder

rain cedar
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1011 characters

leaden hedge
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🇧 🇴 🇸 🇸 🇫 🇮 🇳 🇩 🇪 🇷

copper nacelle
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The spec details are here. Essentially, any unicode character (including unicode escapes) in the character classes Lu, Ll, Lt, Lm, Lo, Nl, Mn, Mc, Nd, Pc, and Cf. The first character is an exception and it must be a letter (classes Lu, Ll, Lt, Lm, or Lo) or an underscore. Also, if the identifier is a keyword, you must stick an @ in front of it. The @ is optional otherwise.

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i know monomod did something like that

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to stop it from autocompleting

dusky lion
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use this

copper nacelle
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it'd probably work tbh

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or at least _☭

leaden hedge
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use that for shared common libraries

dusky lion
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put it in the class name for communist radifesto

leaden hedge
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mod☭

dusky lion
copper nacelle
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that's just editing assets

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it doesn't have any classes

rain cedar
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It let me take a function name to 1023

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So the limit is different

copper nacelle
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☭M☭o☭d☭, ☭I☭T☭o☭g☭g☭l☭a☭b☭l☭e☭M☭o☭d☭

rain cedar
civic hare
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hmmm maybe ultrad should detect if glorious comrade is installed

copper nacelle
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have fun doing that

rain cedar
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I wonder if there's a limit for local variables

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Since the clr loses those names

leaden hedge
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average the colour of radiances sprite

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if red then its installed 🤔

copper nacelle
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yeah but that's like effort

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you have to blitz the texture

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pain

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ok what

rain cedar
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Wow

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I meant name length

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That's even worse

compact sedge
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glorious comrade cannot really be installed

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the way it's made is bad

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and it won't even work on the latest patch

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so don't bother

rain cedar
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It gives me a warning that the name is too long for the debug info btw

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But still compiles

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So no limit on local

copper nacelle
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nice

civic hare
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oic it's not an api mod?

copper nacelle
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no

compact sedge
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lol no it just replaces a bunch of random asset files

civic hare
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alright then yeah that's dumb and i don't care

cunning lagoon
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Rude

copper nacelle
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You'd have to blitz the texture to a rendertexture to make it readable

cunning lagoon
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@ vwrulean

copper nacelle
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and then check a pixel

civic hare
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the vessels are obviously the proletariat anyway, the radiance is the last remnant of the bourgeoise establishment

rain cedar
copper nacelle
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scuse me

native wing
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excuse you

copper nacelle
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i prefer naming all my variables @this

rain cedar
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It doesn't work

copper nacelle
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wtf

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int @int

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tbh

rain cedar
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int @string

copper nacelle
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yes

trim totem
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void

copper nacelle
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you can do that

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int @void

civic hare
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void = abyss;

rain cedar
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void *@void

civic hare
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u ever just shade soul when you meant to ddark

native wing
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no

rain cedar
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no

copper nacelle
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no

solemn rivet
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yesno

cunning lagoon
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no

rain cedar
copper nacelle
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wtf

rain cedar
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My personal favorite letter is (w + c) / 2

copper nacelle
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same

cunning lagoon
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That doesn't even make any sense! What?

copper nacelle
cunning lagoon
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No

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Ah, it is

copper nacelle
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since when do you capitalize stuff

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that's sean's job

rain cedar
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no

copper nacelle
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except for the words 'no' and 'u'

rain cedar
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i'll capitalize What i want bitch

copper nacelle
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why can't i cast bools to ints

rain cedar
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Try Convert.ToInt32(bool)

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Might work idk

cunning lagoon
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My phone does it for me

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I aint capitalizing anything

leaden hedge
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try bool ? 1 : 0; 🤔

copper nacelle
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but that doesn't look as fucked up as ((char)(int) true * 5 + 'w')

cunning lagoon
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5+w whats this

leaden hedge
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(char)(int)bool ? 1 + bool ? 1 : 0 + bool ? 1 : 0 + bool ? 1 : 0 + bool ? 1 : 0 : 0 + 'w';

copper nacelle
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u right

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that does look more fucked up

leaden hedge
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all problems can be solved with more ternary

dusky lion
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wow

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the amount of sins radiating from this is staggering

copper nacelle
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Console.WriteLine(((char)(true ? (1 + (true ? 1 : 0) + (true ? 1 : 0)) : (0 + (true ? 1 : 0)) + (true ? 1 : 0) + 'w')));

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valid code

rain cedar
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leaden hedge
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put the 3rd, 4th and 5th ones inside the 2nd one

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and the 4th and 5th in the 4rd one

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etc

rain cedar
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Or just (char)3 if you don't hate people

copper nacelle
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Console.WriteLine(((true ? (1 + Math.Pow('h', ' '/'e') + (true ? 1 : 0) + (true ? 1 : 0)) : (0 + (true ? 1 : 0)) + (true ? 1 : 0) + Math.Pow('w' * 2, 'h'))));

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i should cast e to a float

leaden hedge
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write code, then use reflection to look at the codes bytes

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then use that as your number

copper nacelle
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highly woke

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e as a float gets you 7.35572114127302

rain cedar
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Wait really?

copper nacelle
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i mean in that whole set of nonsense

rain cedar
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Oh ok

leaden hedge
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it should be 2.7 🤔

copper nacelle
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Console.WriteLine((int)((true ? (1 + Math.Pow((long) 'h', ' '/(float) 'e') + (true ? 1 : 0) + (true ? 1 : 0)) : (0 + (true ? 1 : 0)) + (true ? 1 : 0) + Math.Pow('w' * 2, 'h'))));

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or as i like to call it

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7

subtle rapids
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I don’t know why I come here

rain cedar
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I dOn'T kNoW wHy I cOmE hErE

copper nacelle
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how can i make this worse

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Math.Sinh((double) 'h')

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good idea

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ok

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    Console.WriteLine((int)((true ? (1 & (int) Math.Log('p')) + (1 + Math.Sinh((double) 'h' / 'w') / Math.Pow((long) 'h', ' '/(float) 'e') + (true ? 1 : 0) + (true ? 1 : 0)) : (0 + (true ? 1 : 0)) + (true ? 1 : 0) + Math.Pow('w' * 2, 'h'))));
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needs more ternary

dusky lion
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hey 56

copper nacelle
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i can cast the math.log to a bool if i clamp it

dusky lion
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what do i need to tell you to make you stop

cunning lagoon
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Oh you flipped your pfp

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Nice

leaden hedge
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can you reference that line of code to look at its bytes

copper nacelle
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(bool) (int) Math.Clamp(Convert.ToInt32(false), Math.log('h' * 'w' / 'e'), Convert.ToInt32(true) * true ? 1 : 0)

leaden hedge
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and use that intenseface

copper nacelle
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can you tbh

leaden hedge
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pretty sure yeah

copper nacelle
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nice

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wow this math doesn't have a clamp

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ok

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i'll make my own local clamp function

rain cedar
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Wait no that's .net core

copper nacelle
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yeah

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that's the one i was looking at too

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@dusky lion

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    Console.WriteLine((int)((true ? ((long) Clamp(Convert.ToInt32(false), (int) Math.Log('h' * 'w' / 'e'), Convert.ToInt32(true) * (true ? 1 : 0)) + (1 & (int) Math.Log('p'))) + (1 + Math.Sinh((double) 'h' / 'w') / Math.Pow((long) 'h', ' '/(float) 'e') + (true ? 1 : 0) + (true ? 1 : 0)) : (0 + (true ? 1 : 0)) + (true ? 1 : 0) + Math.Pow('w' * 2, 'h'))));
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or as i like to call it

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4

rain cedar
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You're forgetting my boy bitwise operators

copper nacelle
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shit u right

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i had one

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(1 & (int) Math.Log('p'))

cunning lagoon
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did ax bop me

copper nacelle
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but i need m o r e

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(true ? 'h' << 2 : 0)

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ascended

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Console.WriteLine((int)((true ? ((long) Clamp(Convert.ToInt32(false), (int) Math.Log('h' * 'w' / 'e'), Convert.ToInt32(true) * (true ? 1 : 0)) + (1 & (int) Math.Log('p'))) + (1 + Math.Sinh((double) 'h' / 'w') / Math.Pow((long) 'h', ' '/(float) 'e') + (true ? 'h' << 2 | 3 : 0) + (true ? 1 : 0)) - (1 << 1): (0 + (true ? 1 : 0)) + (true ? 1 : 0) + Math.Pow('w' >> 5 * 2 >> 3, 'h'))));```
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420

cunning lagoon
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🤔

copper nacelle
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i need to shift stuff the other way

dusky lion
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all of you are sinners

trim totem
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56 did you see the pv gif i posted

copper nacelle
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no

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@trim totem post

trim totem
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i did four frames

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gimme sec

cunning lagoon
trim totem
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lol

copper nacelle
native wing
#

ugly

copper nacelle
#

u

native wing
trim totem
#

h e l p m e

cunning lagoon
#

what are you trying to accomplish

native wing
#

ok give address

trim totem
#

add arm

cunning lagoon
#

oh

compact sedge
#

metal THK

cunning lagoon
#

do you have a gif of armless pv for reference

trim totem
#

i can't post it cuz it's on my computer and my internet is fuck

cunning lagoon
#

f

compact sedge
#

@lone rune post that picture you have

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of all the PV sprites with missing arms

lone rune
#

sure

trim totem
#

it's more than half of them

compact sedge
#

yeah that's right I'm summoning a lore person into modding, fite me 56

cunning lagoon
trim totem
#

sacrilege

lone rune
cunning lagoon
#

tc_why

lone rune
#

yes

cunning lagoon
#

lmao

copper nacelle
#

when i see thk's fsm

trim totem
#

it would help if i actually knew what i was doing

cunning lagoon
#

when i reset on kp to vengefly rng for the 20th time in a row

trim totem
#

oh wait

compact sedge
trim totem
#

i think i have it

lone rune
#

Khan are you going to fix their sprites? GWchadThinkeyes

copper nacelle
cunning lagoon
#

unironically make pp have the armor on

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in the fdight

copper nacelle
#

that's like effort

cunning lagoon
#

if it sposible

copper nacelle
#

i can't art

#

making stuff black is free

cunning lagoon
#

understandable

trim totem
#

someone else is doing that

copper nacelle
compact sedge
cunning lagoon
#

that kinda looks like thk's explodey attack

trim totem
#

wait is pp going to look different?

#

that's probably the jump

copper nacelle
trim totem
#

pv doesn't have the stab

#

woke

copper nacelle
#

yeah but he has the infection explody thing even tho he doesn't have it

cunning lagoon
#

pv doesn't have the explodey attack either

trim totem
#

yeah

dusky lion
#

what if i gave him laser eyes on every frame

lone rune
#

TC probably just recoloured all sprites first and then decided on the attacks

cunning lagoon
#

yeah

dusky lion
#

i have the equipment and resources needed

#

all that remains is effort

compact sedge
#

finch

#

I dare you to make ANY mod

trim totem
#

they just did the idle and daggers pretty much

lone rune
#

yeah

cunning lagoon
#

finch make eldergodhu so i dont have to

#

thanks

copper nacelle
#

ax bop dlkurosh so i dont have to

#

thanks

cunning lagoon
#

did he like infinite grimm

copper nacelle
#

idk

#

i think so

lone rune
#

Khan are you actually planning to add an arm to all sprites? those four frames you did already look so much better

cunning lagoon
#

pog

copper nacelle
#

except for the pillar stuff

#

ofc

trim totem
#

do pv no movement abilities

#

probably

dusky lion
#

i would if hk modding was in any way enjoyable at all

trim totem
#

i only stopped today because i have to study

cunning lagoon
#

ill do pv no movement abilities old nail only

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if you do kp lo jump

#

low

trim totem
#

i really shouldn't have done it at all because now I'm fucked for midterms

dusky lion
#

no spells

trim totem
#

of course

tranquil glen
#

kp low jump will just be passed from one person to another without anyone actually doing it

trim totem
#

old nail with spells would be easier

cunning lagoon
#

lmfao

#

hopefully i'll get it soon

trim totem
#

that's what it deserves

cunning lagoon
#

you are not wrong

#

king's pass hell is an appropriate name

native wing
#

whays low jump

copper nacelle
#

jump but low

native wing
#

oh

cunning lagoon
#

^

tranquil glen
#

I routed out how to beat hollow knight in only 19 jumps

cunning lagoon
#

you cant hold jump for more than .1s

tranquil glen
#

I'm still trying to go lower

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but that's as far as i've gotten it so far

cunning lagoon
#

low jump lower than low nail when

copper nacelle
tranquil glen
#

its kind of funny they ended up the same number tbh

cunning lagoon
#

yeah

dusky lion
#

rapid 56 nickname change but it sucks

tranquil glen
#

but maybe I can get low jump lower

#

idk

copper nacelle
#

i mean what

cunning lagoon
#

accordion 🤔

tranquil glen
#

low nail could be like 13 if you didn't have to break hollow knights chains

dusky lion
#

according

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really makes u think

copper nacelle
#

hollow knight chains GWbratWhy

cunning lagoon
#

what about cyclone

rain cedar
#

low nail could be like 0 if you didn't need nail for anything

tranquil glen
#

yeah I know

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but i feel like hk chains have a chance to be skipped some day

leaden hedge
#

if the entire map was flat you could do 0 jumps

cunning lagoon
#

how do you deal with hk chains

#

atgm

copper nacelle
#

cyclone

#

iirc

rain cedar
#

By hitting them

cunning lagoon
#

oh

tranquil glen
#

6 presses

cunning lagoon
#

damn

tranquil glen
#

1 press = 3 chain hits

cunning lagoon
#

wait so are all nail presses on kp + hk alone?

rain cedar
#

Lurien elevator

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And claw

tranquil glen
#

kp is 10

#

hk chain is 6

#

1 for lever to get claw

#

2 on lurien elevator

cunning lagoon
#

how do you kill dreamers

copper nacelle
#

cdash

cunning lagoon
#

lmao

tranquil glen
#

I've tried a ton of stuff to skip one or more lurien elevator presses but I haven't managed anything

cunning lagoon
#

now

leaden hedge
#

how do you get past fk to get fireball

cunning lagoon
#

backwards pop when

tranquil glen
#

skip fk with claw

copper nacelle
#

claw first and then claw oob

tranquil glen
#

we actually do that in any% now

leaden hedge
#

glitches bad

tranquil glen
#

I found the skip by accident doing low nail, used to get wings + claw to skip fk but then during a run I accidentally did it without wings

#

wings was 0 presses anyway but it saved a lot of time

#

and now we use it in any%

copper nacelle
#

any% is just low time

tranquil glen
#

doing claw first saves like 30 seconds overall

rain cedar
#

Pretty sure low time is king's pass ng+

copper nacelle
#

u right

leaden hedge
#

whens debug%

rain cedar
#

Mag already did that

tranquil glen
#

yeah, even if you weren't including IL categories Myla% all glitches is fastest

rain cedar
#

A long ass time ago

cunning lagoon
#

the game already has bugs

leaden hedge
#

lets me dreamnail into the ending cutscene

cunning lagoon
#

silly

leaden hedge
#

nah

tranquil glen
#

debug% is just killing every enemy

leaden hedge
#

he did like arbitrary debug%

rain cedar
#

Debug no dream gate

copper nacelle
#

set a dreamgate to Ending_B

rain cedar
#

Best category

copper nacelle
#

shit

cunning lagoon
#

when are you adding letters% to hkmemes

rain cedar
#

Skipless is the most boring shit

copper nacelle
#

skipless all glitches

rain cedar
#

Nobody would want to run it

leaden hedge
#

when is there hunters journal 10 times %

cunning lagoon
#

ok but backwards pop is fun and i want to run it

#

so add it

rain cedar
#

Maybe some day

cunning lagoon
#

👁‍🗨

rain cedar
#

I have to like go into edit game and click new level

#

Pretty hard

leaden hedge
#

its effort

cunning lagoon
#

ok what if i got more people to runit

#

@trim totem @copper nacelle @tranquil glen

#

run backwards pop

leaden hedge
#

backwards pop more like

trim totem
#

sure

leaden hedge
#

ur mum

copper nacelle
#

ok

tranquil glen
#

@cunning lagoon run low jump kp

dusky lion
#

ok

cunning lagoon
#

i am

#

well not at thisd exact moment

#

because i just wokemup and havent had my coffee yet

trim totem
#

well I'm just going to do it not speedrun it

tranquil glen
#

also if i'm doing a pop category its gonna be duped pop

cunning lagoon
#

but backwards pop though

copper nacelle
#

dupe backwards pop

cunning lagoon
#

its soo fun

tranquil glen
#

duped backwards no abilities

#

If duped is lame cause its all just oob then i'll do backwards

cunning lagoon
#

👀

#

the time to beat is 1:41

#

nmg zote

copper nacelle
#

all glitches backwards pop

leaden hedge
#

whens pop low jump, low nail and low dash

cunning lagoon
#

low nail pop sounds cool

tranquil glen
#

not really

rain cedar
#

It would just be invuln floats

#

Wow 0 nail

#

So interesting

cunning lagoon
#

i mean nmg

dusky lion
tranquil glen
#

(1)

dusky lion
#

yes

rain cedar
#

no

cunning lagoon
#

kry when exactly do i stop the recordingf

#

on the loading screen to dm right

tranquil glen
#

yea

#

you can get into dirtmouth then end it and cut it after to be safe

cunning lagoon
#

cool

#

56 i retract my statement

#

i enjoy music

#

how do i setup voicemeeter

compact sedge
#

radiance.host is a well known host of viruses

copper nacelle
#

ok so you download voicemeeter banana

cunning lagoon
#

i have that but i was intimidated by it

copper nacelle
#

nice

#

ok just open it

#

set its output (on the top of the rightmost panel) to your headphones

cunning lagoon
#

ok

copper nacelle
#

set your default system output to one of the voicemeeter inputs

cunning lagoon
#

voicemeeter aux input or voicemeeter input

copper nacelle
#

either

#

just remember which one

cunning lagoon
#

ok

copper nacelle
#

then go to settings

#

and you can either only record a few things

#

or record everything except a few things

cunning lagoon
#

ok

copper nacelle
#

which one do you want

cunning lagoon
#

so better to just record hk

copper nacelle
#

ok

#

so you set hk to output to the input that isn't default

#

that's in windows sound settings

cunning lagoon
#

do i have to have hk open for that

copper nacelle
#

yeah

cunning lagoon
#

ok

#

i have done it

copper nacelle
#

ok now set obs to record that input

#

easy

cunning lagoon
#

damn

#

thanks

copper nacelle
#

yw

#

make sure it works by like

#

opening hk and checking the obs sound bar

cunning lagoon
#

ok

copper nacelle
#

and/or playing music and seeing the obs sound bar not change

cunning lagoon
#

it doesn't pick up the sound GWfroggyMonkaMega

copper nacelle
#

hk or the music

#

or both

cunning lagoon
#

anything at all

copper nacelle
#

show sound settings for windows

#

and obs sound settings

cunning lagoon
#

and vagene

#

output for windows is voicemeeter without the aux thing

copper nacelle
#

no i mean like

#

show this page

cunning lagoon
#

i have the same thing on obs

copper nacelle
#

restart hk maybe

cunning lagoon
#

i swapped them around and it's fine now

copper nacelle
#

pog

cunning lagoon
#

and so the kp grind continues

copper nacelle
cunning lagoon
#

its gonna b e dope when i pull it off though

#

idk if you saw the clip but it looks pretty sick

cunning lagoon
#

how do i force the shade to attack me

copper nacelle
#

go next to it

cunning lagoon
#

my setup is literally waiting until he's physically inside me then jumping

#

but he doesn't always attack me

copper nacelle
#

walk backwards when he's about to be inside you maybe

#

and then jump

#

idk

cunning lagoon
#

moving seems to work

#

if that's consistent it's gonna make this way easier

#

it's not consistent

#

this shade skip is so dumb

cunning lagoon
#

this shade skip is no longer dumb

#

i found a consistent setup

copper nacelle
#

do that but for ngg

#

hey finch

#

i found u

dusky lion
copper nacelle
dusky lion
#

i want to be in a sacra, orum

copper nacelle
#

same

dusky lion
#

when you need to remember sacra, -orum just remember you want to die and that ties into sacrifice

copper nacelle
#

good idea tbh

#

dos isn't two

#

it'

#

s

#

dowry

dusky lion
#

and remember annuli because i said RING once

copper nacelle
#

yes

dusky lion
#

ur gay lol

copper nacelle
#

u

dusky lion
#

yes

copper nacelle
#

nuts = nuces

dusky lion
#

yes

cunning lagoon
#

this fucking guy actually advised him to start a new savefile instead of just getting cdash

copper nacelle
cunning lagoon
#

for some context the mystery_guy got there with dive without lantern

#

so he's "stuck"

copper nacelle
#

how bad of an idea would it be to disable soul regen for mantis gods

#

because ddark

cunning lagoon
#

make them take 50% reduced damage from it

#

or whatever number you feel is appropriate

copper nacelle
#

100%

cunning lagoon
#

understandable

copper nacelle
#

i should do a redo of that

#

with like

#

vertical boomerangs

#

and diagonals

cunning lagoon
#

make them aim them at you

#

like petras

copper nacelle
#

wait

#

you're a genius

cunning lagoon
#

🤔

copper nacelle
#

that'd fix the wall cheese

#

i just replace it with a fire at target

#

easy game

#

should i have the downdash and normal dash be aimed too or no

cunning lagoon
#

sounds like cancer

copper nacelle
#

true

cunning lagoon
#

if they aim the boomerangs at you i feel like p2 would need a slight rework

copper nacelle
#

yeah

#

it'd have to be slower

#

but then i could diagonal everything

#

uniqueness™

cunning lagoon
#

i can't wait to make it to the end and miss the superslide

copper nacelle
cunning lagoon
#

i ran out of music

#

send music

finite herald
#

where do I download the software with all the mods'

#

Ohh, Hi Kurosh

#

whats up?

cunning lagoon
#

sup

finite herald
#

I think i've never seen you on the chat, I've seen your videos

cunning lagoon
#

not much, grinding kp low jump atm

finite herald
#

kp low jump?

cunning lagoon
#

beating king's pass in 6 jumps

#

the software to install mods is the 5th pin in this channel

finite herald
#

awesome, thank you

#

looking forward to your next video, you probably have seen my comments

#

i became a fan with the path of pain wr

cunning lagoon
finite herald
#

where can i learn about the mods? where can i get information about them

cunning lagoon
#

each mod has a readme that you can read after you install them

finite herald
#

great, thanks again

#

the enemy randomizer and glass soul seem interesting, also, de mantis gods and lost lord, if I do them in the pantheon, it works?.

cunning lagoon
#

i do believe both mantis gods and lost lord work in the pantheons and hog

#

glass soul doesn't work on gm afaik

civic hare
#

before the idea of disabling shade cloak for pale prince seemed weird to me, but I get it now that i'm thinking about disabling ddark for ultrad

#

the cross lasers are a lot more interesting if you have to use shade cloak

finite herald
#

lol you have a video about lost lord

cunning lagoon
#

yea

#

mantis gods too

finite herald
#

what the fuck

#

you are insane

cunning lagoon
#

thanks

finite herald
#

how long did it take you to beat mantis gods and lost lord?

cunning lagoon
#

to kill them or to hitless them

finite herald
#

both

cunning lagoon
#

half an hour for each kill

copper nacelle
#

🅱oth

cunning lagoon
#

an hour to hitless mantis gods and 3 or 4 to hitless lost lord

finite herald
#

damn

cunning lagoon
#

but lost lord was old nail so that's the reason it took longer

#

mantis gods are harder

finite herald
#

you used charms, right?

cunning lagoon
#

yes

finite herald
#

any recommendation for both?

cunning lagoon
#

fstrength and shaman stone for both

#

quickslash for lost lord

#

range upgrades for mantis gods

#

it's one of the few fights where range upgrades are actually really solid

finite herald
#

damn

#

the first mantis is easy, but with two i dont know the pattern at all

#

what would you think about the three mantis at the same time, you think its doable?

cunning lagoon
#

no

leaden hedge
#

like a 50/50 chance

#

it either is possible

#

or not

finite herald
#

well, i guess ill having fun learning those fights

cunning lagoon
#

they are fun

finite herald
#

what the fuck man hahahah

#

your battle against the mantis is insane

cunning lagoon
#

lol thanks

finite herald
#

any advise?

cunning lagoon
#

the floor is lava

finite herald
#

its like you are pogoing all the time

#

yeah haha

#

by the way, what mods do you recommend?

cunning lagoon
#

qol infinite grimm mantis gods lost lord redwing blackmoth lightbringer

#

rando

#

exaltation

finite herald
#

aight thank you

cunning lagoon
#

infinite grimm has a cool scoreboard where i'm really lonely

#

so if you want to compete play that

#

it's really fun

finite herald
#

sounds good

cunning lagoon
#

oh also the pain of the path

#

it lets you do pop backwards

cunning lagoon
#

i am free

copper nacelle
#

nice

cunning lagoon
#

now

#

how much money does kry owe me

#

Kappa

solemn rivet
#

Nice

cunning lagoon
#

what should i go for now

#

im a free man

#

i could please khan and do pv no movement upgrades

copper nacelle
#

1.75x pv

cunning lagoon
#

no

copper nacelle
pale ledge
#

What does "Darkness" mod do?

copper nacelle
#

every room is as dark as the crystal peak dark room without lantern

cunning lagoon
floral furnace
#

is it bad practice that the solution to every problem you run in is to just turn the class / method static

hollow pier
#

crippling financial debt

#

make it static lol

copper nacelle
#

why study when you can just make the test static

cunning lagoon
#

same

floral furnace
#

all of your classmates will have the same grades

copper nacelle
#

required curve if the class fails

#

sounds good

cunning lagoon
#

What

#

?

floral furnace
#

Everyone gets low grades, prof has accomodate for that grade so everyone passes 😩

cunning lagoon
#

or everyonefails

#

why not that

floral furnace
#

Something something if everyone fails it basically makes teacher look incompetent and we cant have that now can we 😤

#

yes everyone fails that sounds good too

cunning lagoon
#

same

#

@copper nacelle does qol have absrad cutscene skip now

copper nacelle
#

yeah

cunning lagoon
#

biggest pog

floral furnace
#

haha yes absrad is one of the hardest bosses in the game so far for me and i havent even fought it at all not even once

cunning lagoon
#

cuz u suc

floral furnace
#

😔 this is so sad when do we unnerf pv its barely noticable anyway

cunning lagoon
#

noticable thinkgrub

copper nacelle
#

ttacco practice pv

#

I added a cutscene skip for that too

cunning lagoon
#

is it a regional thing too

floral furnace
#

i can already do him consistently its just that i have no will to live do panth 4(20)

#

for now at least

cunning lagoon
#

its really easy just kill the bosses quickly

copper nacelle
#

just use fury

floral furnace
#

yes

#

i actually tried that and i died to moss charger

exotic venture
#

f

cunning lagoon
#

this cutscene thing is FANTASTIC

#

good shit 56

cunning lagoon
#

i feel like the wk arena in godhome is bigger

hollow pier
#

ur mum bigger

cunning lagoon
#

no

#

does anyone have a wk prac save

#

nvm

cosmic spruce
#

so what mods do you recommend a newie

cunning lagoon
#

qol infinite grimm mantis gods lost lord redwing blackmoth lightbringer rando exaltation the path of the pain

#

the pain of the path*

cosmic spruce
#

hmm thanks ill check them out

cosmic spruce
#

so i heard that the bonefire mod is available only on discord

#

also what are some qol mods

cunning lagoon
#

qol

cosmic spruce
#

link

cunning lagoon
#

use the installer

#

📌

solemn rivet
#

Danganronpa reeee

cunning lagoon
#

shut up weeb

solemn rivet
flat forum
#

Hey Gradow!

solemn rivet
#

Hey papers my dude!

cunning lagoon
#

Hey kuro my guy!

flat forum
#

DLK

#

there's 2 Kuros and whenever somebody says Kuro I get overly confused

cunning lagoon
#

there's only one solution to that problem

#

the other kuro must be banished from the server

flat forum
#

@chrome lantern maggot

cunning lagoon
#

just call them teru

#

ez

chrome lantern
#

wh

flat forum
#

No

#

Kuro

#

Sorry for ping

#

we're having an argument because 2 Kuros

cunning lagoon
#

but you didn't ping me