archived-modding-development

[hollow pier]

you mean mountain and valley folds good sir please use the correct origami lingo

[hazy sentinel]

not really

this is prefolding

[dusky lion]

i believe you mean hamburger and hotdog 😩

[cunning lagoon]

@copper nacelle how do i voicemeeter

[hollow pier]

oh is your name now uumuu

[cunning lagoon]

nvm ill just play without music for however long it takes me to get this

[hazy sentinel]

i also messed up like 9 of the 128th subdividing folds because i didn't account for the fact that paper with like 30 folds in it can stretch

[weak lodge]

How do I spell Verulean in Russian

[hollow pier]

BepyJleaH

[weak lodge]

[hazy sentinel]

just install russian input and type verulean exactly how you would in english
that's what you're good at right

[weak lodge]

Oh

[hazy sentinel]

it's actually not how you do that

[weak lodge]

I figured

[cunning lagoon]

i cant hear anything now

help

[hazy sentinel]

you could use phonetic input

i guess

[hollow pier]

is there a language that just types english words with cyrillic

[hazy sentinel]

not all the letters are in the right place

[hollow pier]

does serbian do that

[hazy sentinel]

𝍃

[copper nacelle]

@cunning lagoon you download voicemeeter banana

[leaden hedge]

vee eh ar u el eh ah en ai en ar u es es ai en

[hazy sentinel]

c-uh-ree

[leaden hedge]

is how you spell verulean in russian

[cunning lagoon]

i did that but i decided it wasnt worth the effort

[copper nacelle]

set one of the inputs as your default

[trim totem]

velmi artrid

[cunning lagoon]

i dont like music anyway

[copper nacelle]

oh ok

[weak lodge]

Also yes I am good at using a Russian keyboard but typing the words exactly the same as English but who isn’t

[copper nacelle]

u

[trim totem]

lmao who listens to music in 2018

[weak lodge]

But I don’t exist

[trim totem]

just listen to your own tinnitus

[cunning lagoon]

too real

[hazy sentinel]

but u gotta blast the music to get the tinnitus in the first place

[leaden hedge]

this is how you type spell verulean in japanese 大きなゲイ

[dusky lion]

lmao I thought everyone had musical anhedonia nowadays

[trim totem]

no just smash your eardrum with a pencil lmao

[leaden hedge]

just buy a gun and shoot it a lot without ear plugs

[trim totem]

or sneeze really hard

[leaden hedge]

you can double up and hit yourself to train your bullet resistance

[weak lodge]

Well thanks veru

Phonetic keyboarding will ensue

[hazy sentinel]

pickpocket a potion of minor bullet resist

[weak lodge]

Oh can you pickpocket my will to live while you’re at it

[copper nacelle]

Πιψκποψκετ α ποτιον οφ μινορ βυλλετ ρεσιστ

Βυλλετ

νεατ

[leaden hedge]

boolet

[copper nacelle]

βοολετ

[cunning lagoon]

ah shit

it's low jump presses right

[hollow pier]

🤔

[cunning lagoon]

so i can't mash jump to skip the intro cutcsene

[copper nacelle]

Υεα

[trim totem]

what's the lowest so far

[hazy sentinel]

actually all those jump presses are required to beat the game

so mashing is fine

[copper nacelle]

ςοςα ςολα

[leaden hedge]

just debug your way and do it in 0

[weak lodge]

Also Verulean another question, did the Soviet comrade mod change anyhting about the absrad fight other than the music and sprites or no?

[trim totem]

verulean how do you edit sprites

[copper nacelle]

uabe

[dusky lion]

verulean how do you release hornet dlc

[copper nacelle]

or you don't suck and you edit the tk2dspritedefinition material texture

or sprite renderer

[leaden hedge]

but then I couldn't make awkward to reverse changes

[copper nacelle]

[leaden hedge]

use uabe to change fsms to download your custom sprites

its the only way

[trim totem]

can you say that again but in spanish

[copper nacelle]

did anyone ever use the hack_fsm thing of the Fsm Dumper?

[dusky lion]

Usa uabe para cambiar fsms para descargar tus sprites personalizados.
Es la única manera (editado)
KhanToday a las 7:05 PM
puedes decir eso

[copper nacelle]

the only time i saw it used was the provided example

[leaden hedge]

no

that'd involve editing fsm jsons

[copper nacelle]

understandable

[leaden hedge]

donde esta la biblioteca

[dusky lion]

Down the hall and to the left

[leaden hedge]

gracias amigo

[cunning lagoon]

i find this deeply offensive

[trim totem]

discord is telling me to fucking register to vote

what is this

[hazy sentinel]

the liberal elite trying to take over the government

[dusky lion]

Register now to be entered in the raffle who gets sacrificed to the God of All That is Evil

[cunning lagoon]

@tranquil glen https://youtu.be/Rk6XxHTut6Q can you tell me if this is fine

i just want to know if i messed up

also do you want me to add inventory and pause to the nohboard

[tranquil glen]

I'm streaming very important csgo surfing tho

[cunning lagoon]

that can wait

[hazy sentinel]

very important
csgo surfing
pick one

[dusky lion]

No it's very crucial

[cunning lagoon]

it's one minute

[tranquil glen]

I would include inv and pause probably

[cunning lagoon]

ok i'll do that

[tranquil glen]

gimme a sec

will you have to do it again?

[civic hare]

modding is fun

[cunning lagoon]

yeah

i mean it's literally just the suicide segment

[tranquil glen]

oh lol ok

[cunning lagoon]

i just want to know if i did it right

[hazy sentinel]

@civic hare now have that but also every other attack happening at the same time

[civic hare]

what if radiance big beam sweeps but they run for the entire game

[trim totem]

do lasers only

how long has min jump been a thing

[hazy sentinel]

how old is krythom

[cunning lagoon]

5

[weak lodge]

Krythom is 5 years older than me so -10

[cunning lagoon]

where should i put pause and inventory

[weak lodge]

Happy not even fucking born yet krythom

[cunning lagoon]

i feel like they shouldnt be next to up

[hollow pier]

somewhere around where they are

i realized i should put map up on mine too

[cunning lagoon]

not a fan of that tbh

[hollow pier]

lookin more and more like the doubt symbol each time

[cunning lagoon]

what

[weak lodge]

Kurosh May I ask what you’re doin?

[cunning lagoon]

low jump king's pass

[warped sinew]

Why are you pressing up and down

Smh

[cunning lagoon]

any suggestions

i dont know where to put them

[warped sinew]

At the same time

[hollow pier]

my dude why does nohboard only expand from the right

garbage program

[cunning lagoon]

im not pressing any keys there

i am confused

[warped sinew]

Oh.... Mfw Im retarded

[cunning lagoon]

lmfao

[warped sinew]

[dusky lion]

im late but appropiate

[cunning lagoon]

i could put them above cdash and focus

it would kinda look like this 🤘

i'll do thaT

[weak lodge]

Kurosh going for king’s pass %

[copper nacelle]

ok

same

[cunning lagoon]

what do you think

maybe next to left and jump?

oh actually i cant do that because nohboard is garbage

[warped sinew]

Get rid of focus

U don't use it anyway

[cunning lagoon]

i actually have a few forced heals in kp so i need to have it

[copper nacelle]

get rid of spell

[cunning lagoon]

but i use spells outside of kp

[hollow pier]

quick sauce me the keycode for q

[cunning lagoon]

81

[copper nacelle]

might've flattened half the universe

[dusky lion]

snapped it

[hollow pier]

that's a hot keycode if i've ever seen one

many thanks father

[cunning lagoon]

yw

[hollow pier]

is there a toggle to talk

push is pretty trash

[copper nacelle]

how do i rotate the universe without breaking it

[cunning lagoon]

yeah

push to mute

[hollow pier]

does that work

[cunning lagoon]

i dont see why not

[hollow pier]

is this a prank

can i bind one key to both

[cunning lagoon]

do you mean ojn discord or obs

[hollow pier]

either

preferably obs

[copper nacelle]

help

[dusky lion]

Who needs a z-axis anyways

tbh

[hollow pier]

56

stop playing hollow knight

[copper nacelle]

[cunning lagoon]

what do you think

[dusky lion]

56 play crosscode

[copper nacelle]

looks fine

[cunning lagoon]

ok

[copper nacelle]

yo

[hollow pier]

what do you think

[copper nacelle]

the axis was z

apparently

[cunning lagoon]

map next to jump

and move everything to the right

or no everything but

that row

idk

[hollow pier]

???

[cunning lagoon]

map looks out of place there

[hollow pier]

do i add pause beside map so it looks less out of place

[copper nacelle]

what if i just rotate the knight by 90 degrees

and rotate the screen

[cunning lagoon]

uhh

sure

[hollow pier]

sauce me esc keycode

[cunning lagoon]

27

[hollow pier]

ok

[cunning lagoon]

kry is the segment ok

stop surfing

[copper nacelle]

ok might've gotten 90 degrees

[cunning lagoon]

actually ill reupload it with the new nohboard so dont even look at it if you are reading this

[weak lodge]

See you nibbugs later

[cunning lagoon]

[weak lodge]

Also gl on king’s pass low jump

[copper nacelle]

s i c k

@daring snow

[warped sinew]

90 degree inverted pop

[weak lodge]

Ask Verulean to do this ^

I want to see this

[dusky lion]

56 this is highly cursed

[hollow pier]

yikes

[warped sinew]

Is it possible to invert the WP colours?

[copper nacelle]

white palace?

[cunning lagoon]

idk it looks blessed to me

[warped sinew]

Black palace plz

[copper nacelle]

yeah

[dusky lion]

asymmetrical designs begone

[hollow pier]

the space between left hand and right hand is kinda bad

[cunning lagoon]

well thats because you dont use wasd you monster

[warped sinew]

Also invert the HUD plzzzzzzz

Would make invert knight even better

[hollow pier]

wasd is pretty shit

[hazy sentinel]

make all text comic sans

[tranquil glen]

dl thats fine

[cunning lagoon]

sick

[tranquil glen]

but you dont have to do pause strat at the start

you can just immediately open map

and inv drop

[warped sinew]

Monetise veruleans YouTube channel

[cunning lagoon]

oh

then i'd have to have a map inputy

no thank you

[tranquil glen]

[hazy sentinel]

it is tbh

[warped sinew]

Wow TC report this guy, stealing your content and making money omfg

[cunning lagoon]

how much faster is it to map therte instead of pausing

[hazy sentinel]

how much faster is it to type there instead of therte

[hollow pier]

better y/n

[cunning lagoon]

it's not about the speed it's about being too lazy to go back and fix it when i notice i typed the word wrong

i can't tell the difference

what did you change

[hollow pier]

made left hand closer

[daring snow]

yo

[hollow pier]

or just moved it down pretty much

[cunning lagoon]

oh i see

[daring snow]

how is the 90deg mod coming along?

[warped sinew]

Is this just the onscreen layout or the actual layout you use??

[cunning lagoon]

yeah it looks fine

[hollow pier]

ok

[copper nacelle]

decent

[hazy sentinel]

yeah kuro has quick cast bound to the Inventory button on KB

[leaden hedge]

do you just want the entire screen inverted 🤔

[copper nacelle]

the player movement is fucked

[daring snow]

lmao

[leaden hedge]

you could do that with a post process shader

[daring snow]

if upside down is easier, do that

[hazy sentinel]

20 degrees counterclockwise

[leaden hedge]

make it rotate constantly

[hazy sentinel]

rotate a random amount per key press

chaos mode 2

[warped sinew]

Also muffle the sound 20%

[hazy sentinel]

muffle the grass

[leaden hedge]

just uninstall this and play a good game

[copper nacelle]

do you think the rb2d velocity property would get inlined

it's pretty small

[cunning lagoon]

yeah definitely

[leaden hedge]

like secret of the magic crystals

[hollow pier]

doing this acts as a toggle right

or will it fuck up for no reason

[warped sinew]

Play Fortnight, I hear its the bees knees

[dusky lion]

here

[silk jetty]

kness

[warped sinew]

Kill me

[leaden hedge]

fortnight 🤔

[silk jetty]

fortnight

[hazy sentinel]

oh i thought that was sarcastic because there were two typos so i didn't screenshot it

fuck

[leaden hedge]

not fartnite

its

and not it's

smh

[cunning lagoon]

ptkyr i literally told you there's a push to mute key

[warped sinew]

I'm not editing it again fuck it we'll do it live

[leaden hedge]

can't you spell anything right

just dab on correct spelling

[dusky lion]

u ever just purge dnspy of every single assembly

[hazy sentinel]

u ever just purge the rhineland of semites

[dusky lion]

yes

[warped sinew]

Get with the times, it's all about east vs west Germany now

[leaden hedge]

north and south germany is better

[cunning lagoon]

@hollow pier

[hollow pier]

no thanks

[cunning lagoon]

[leaden hedge]

just unplug your mic whenever you don't want it to be heard

[hollow pier]

mic

good joke

[cunning lagoon]

and so the kp grind begins

[warped sinew]

Did you get the NGG?

On lb?

[cunning lagoon]

no i pinged you with a rant

but tldr it broke me

im done for now

[tranquil glen]

dl its a couple seconds faster to just map

[warped sinew]

Oh I'm going to read it now. I didn't see it.

[copper nacelle]

same

[daring snow]

what

[dusky lion]

tfw your own ball of pure lethal energy betrays you and stabs you in the back

[warped sinew]

Yeah that's a fair rant. You did already do it

[copper nacelle]

now all walls can eat your fireballs

[cunning lagoon]

i will go back to it eventually, i dont wanna just quit

but i need a break from it

[warped sinew]

(On the version that doesn't count) but yeah that's fine 😘

[cunning lagoon]

[warped sinew]

[copper nacelle]

should i do it on 1.2.2.1 or 1.3.1.5

i was doing 1.2.2.1

[hazy sentinel]

1.4.3.2

[warped sinew]

It doesn't matter

[copper nacelle]

fuck voidheart exists

[cunning lagoon]

up to you honestly

[warped sinew]

One has better dives but harder p2 start cause you don't have soul, the other has worse dives but easier start to p2. They are fairly close, close enough that it doesn't matter

[cunning lagoon]

yeah

already getting stuck at the shade skip

prob gonna have to get some practice before doing runs

[hazy sentinel]

yo wtf

[cunning lagoon]

i nat

[native wing]

i dont want your pen

bye

[hazy sentinel]

how old are you

[cunning lagoon]

420

(years)

its the weed number

[native wing]

wow who knew

[cunning lagoon]

me

[native wing]

Very cool!

[dusky lion]

1775

[copper nacelle]

you ever have jump always move you up even when rotated

really nice

[hazy sentinel]

jump up jump up and get sideways

[copper nacelle]

how do i swap ldfld(s) with mass IL manipulation

thanks

it's like

ldfld

ldarg.0

ldfld

and i want the two ldfld(s) swapped

[cunning lagoon]

@tranquil glen https://youtu.be/s_4jkdOs4uA what do you think

maybe this could be somewhat useful

ignore the death at the end

[tranquil glen]

same amount of damage right?

[cunning lagoon]

yeah

[tranquil glen]

give you more time to heal?

[cunning lagoon]

im not sure if they can follow you without going down

but the biggest thing is

the second fly went to the right of the platform

usually when he does that he gets stuck

[tranquil glen]

think you just needed to jump earlier

[cunning lagoon]

so this removes some rng

[tranquil glen]

ok thats good

yeah if you're worried about fly not being high enough think he would've been if you just jumped at his peak instead of when he was on his way down

[cunning lagoon]

yeah that fly pogo + the platform heal is what's got me worried about kp lj

[tranquil glen]

well using those spikes to go back up will def give you more heal time

[cunning lagoon]

pretty sure i wouldnt have enough soul to heal in a run

[tranquil glen]

right yeah not until the pogo back onto lore platform

[cunning lagoon]

is looking up a thing on controllers?

[copper nacelle]

how dumb is this

            var ins = il.Body.Instructions;
            
            for (var i = il.body.instructions.count - 1; i >= 0; i--)
            {
                try
                {
                    if (ins[i - 2].opcode == opcodes.ldfld && ins[i].opcode == opcodes.ldfld && ins[i - 1].opcode == opcodes.ldarg_0)
                    {
                        var h = ins[i - 2].operand;
                        ins[i - 2].operand = ins[i].operand;
                        ins[i].operand = h;
                    }
                }
                catch (exception e)
                {
                    modding.logger.log(e.message);
                }
            }

[tranquil glen]

yeah it is dl

why

[cunning lagoon]

i can't look up on kb

the knight looks up but the camera doesn't scroll

[hollow pier]

what

[cunning lagoon]

oh actually maybe its because of the savestate thing

[tranquil glen]

so wait does this not work cause you don't have enough hp?

[cunning lagoon]

wdym

this is a backup when the 2nd fly goes to the wrong side

[tranquil glen]

yeah but like

[cunning lagoon]

unless i can get them to follow me without dropping down the lore tablet section

[tranquil glen]

you died

[cunning lagoon]

in which case idk

yeah i ddint heal

that wouldnt usually happen

[tranquil glen]

oh ok

coo

[copper nacelle]

eee

this is saying ilmanipulator is dead

u ever just rebuild the api

[cunning lagoon]

ok so normally i would be able to look up right?

to time the double pogo on the crawlid

[tranquil glen]

uh yeah prob

you could also just hear

but i think you can look up ye

so its 6 right?

just so i can revise the jump count

[cunning lagoon]

yeah

[tranquil glen]

cool

so yeah we've matche low nail assuming I can ever get the death through transition thing to work

I expand sideways for improvements that don't require a new route

[cunning lagoon]

hell kings pass

[tranquil glen]

ye

[silk jetty]

wtf

I have a bunch of mods on

and when I go to fight thk he's invisible

[cunning lagoon]

vanilla bug

[silk jetty]

oh

how do I fix it?

[cunning lagoon]

fuck if i know

try restarting

[silk jetty]

okay

it fixed it

[copper nacelle]

help

how do i

help

wtf

i'm so confused

[compact sedge]

me irl

[copper nacelle]

ok i got it maybe

[cunning lagoon]

why do vengeflies just randomly forget about you

[tranquil glen]

cause you dont have an interesting enough personality

[copper nacelle]

        private void Jump(HookIL il)
        {
            HookILCursor c = il.At(0);
            while (c.FindNext(out HookILCursor[] cu,
                i => i.MatchLdfld<Vector2>("x"),
                i => i.MatchLdarg0(),
                i => i.Match(OpCodes.Ldfld)
            ))
            {
                il.Instrs[cu[0].Index].Operand = 0f;
                il.Instrs[cu[1].Index].Operand = 0f;
            }
        }

haha no

[trim totem]

what's this

[cunning lagoon]

OwO

[young walrus]

code

[copper nacelle]

runtime il manipulation

which i'm trying to use

ahhh

if you do like

anything wrong

the game just crashes

mono.dll caused an Access Violation (0xc0000005)
  in module mono.dll at 0023:100d9191.

thanks

thank u dark souls

oh they're modding an ldc

how do i change the field to be

ahh

ok so you call a ldc.r4

loss

[cunning lagoon]

good game

im gonna have so much fun playing with these guys

[copper nacelle]

not as much fun as i'll have with runtime il manip

what a nice fucking descriptive error

ok

do i need to kill ldarg.0?

yes, right?

or not

it didn't emit the thing

ahh

[cunning lagoon]

vengeflies are the worst enemies in the game

[copper nacelle]

wingsmoulds

[cunning lagoon]

not even close

vengeflies

[copper nacelle]

help

i don't get why this doesn't work at all

        private static void Jump(HookIL il)
        {
            HookILCursor c = il.At(0);
            while (c.FindNext(out HookILCursor[] cu,
                i => i.MatchLdfld<Vector2>("x"),
                i => i.MatchLdarg0(),
                i => i.Match(OpCodes.Ldfld)
            ))
            {
                cu[0].Remove();
                cu[1].Remove();
                cu[0].Emit(OpCodes.Ldc_R4, (float) 0);
            }
        }

this is jump

this is jump release

first one is ldfld, ldarg.0, ldfld, newobj, callvirt

second one is just ldfld, ldc.r4, newobj

maybe i should try replacing the second param

pain

oh stloc

maybe

[cunning lagoon]

this is worse than ngg

[copper nacelle]

[cunning lagoon]

not even joking

[trim totem]

do pv no movement abilities

[tranquil glen]

yeah i'm not surprised dl

this is probably also worse than that khan

thats why its named hell kp

[trim totem]

yes

[cunning lagoon]

why isnt the stupid ass fly getting stuck below the platform

[tranquil glen]

honestly

the fact that you're making it that far is impressive

[cunning lagoon]

no im practicing

[tranquil glen]

oh

nvm

honestly i found the shade pogo worse than the fly one

maybe i wasn't as focused on getting him stuck though

[cunning lagoon]

ok so why is the knight sideslashing after getting hit by the fly

[copper nacelle]

ok so why does this il manip not work

help it just printed il cursors

[cunning lagoon]

not this again

[copper nacelle]

stop

[cunning lagoon]

is this a 1028 thing

i happened to me once on 1221

but its happening all the time here

[copper nacelle]

worse running game => more inputs dropped

i think

@dusky lion how do i manipulate il at runtime

[dusky lion]

work smarter not harder

[copper nacelle]

ahh

that's what i'm doing

i'm getting this il manip down

then i can throw it onto every function

ok so there's ldloca.s

that gets the var

[cunning lagoon]

ok i have a more consistent setup

[copper nacelle]

the vector

[cunning lagoon]

this is looking more promising

[dusky lion]

you're welcome for my insight

[copper nacelle]

then we load ldfld into it

so new Vector(x, 0.0) newobj

right

but the other one does

ldloca.s

ldfld

ldarg.0

ldfld

notice the lack of ldarg.0 in the first one

so i killed it

right

[dusky lion]

yes

[copper nacelle]

and replaced it with nop

which does nothing

and then i replaced the ldfld

(2nd arg)

with ldc.r4 (0.0)

which should make it

new Vector2(x, 0.0)

like the other one

but instead it breaks

the end

help

[dusky lion]

tbh it should work

i dont know why it would not

send the entire code

[copper nacelle]

        private static void Jump(HookIL il)
        {
            HookILCursor c = il.At(0);
            while (c.FindNext(out HookILCursor[] cu,
                i => i.MatchLdfld<Vector2>("x"),
                i => i.MatchLdarg0(),
                i => i.Match(OpCodes.Ldfld)
            ))
            {
                Modding.Logger.Log(il.Instrs[cu[0].Index]);
                Modding.Logger.Log(il.Instrs[cu[1].Index]);
                Modding.Logger.Log(il.Instrs[cu[2].Index]);
                cu[1].Remove();
                cu[1].Emit(OpCodes.Ldc_R4, (float) 0);
                cu[2].Remove();
                cu[2].Emit(OpCodes.Nop);
            }
        }

[dusky lion]

I can't find a single thing wrong with this

[copper nacelle]

understandable

but hk can

apparently

i'm gonna try emit delegate

[dusky lion]

if that doesnt work i recommend consulting the internet for the quickest way to die

[copper nacelle]

ahhh

[dusky lion]

but release every scrapped or unreleased project you did

but remove all of the semicolons from each one

[copper nacelle]

wait does remove not do what i think it does

i swear

                // Still there? Great! Let's replace the ldc.r4 0f with our own 
                HookILCursor cRot = cursors[3];
                cRot.Remove();
                cRot.EmitDelegate<Func<float>>(() => {
                    return heartRotation;
});

this looks like it removes the operand

[dusky lion]

whomst would do something like that tbh

[trim totem]

did you figure it out

[copper nacelle]

nope

[cunning lagoon]

Great!

[dusky lion]

excelente

[copper nacelle]

        private static void Jump(HookIL il)
        {
            HookILCursor c = il.At(0);
            while (c.FindNext(out HookILCursor[] cu,
                i => i.MatchLdfld<Vector2>("x"),
                i => i.MatchLdarg0(),
                i => i.Match(OpCodes.Ldfld)
            ))
            {
                Modding.Logger.Log(il.Instrs[cu[0].Index]);
                Modding.Logger.Log(il.Instrs[cu[1].Index]);
                Modding.Logger.Log(il.Instrs[cu[2].Index]);
                il.Instrs[cu[1].Index].OpCode = OpCodes.Ldc_R4;
                il.Instrs[cu[1].Index].Operand = 0f;
                cu[2].Remove();
                il.Instrs[cu[2].Index].OpCode = OpCodes.Nop;
            }
        }

idea

[trim totem]

did it work

[copper nacelle]

no

[cunning lagoon]

wow i hate life now

[copper nacelle]

same

[cunning lagoon]

i hated life before

its significantly worse now

[dusky lion]

now i double hate it now

i hate it squared

[cunning lagoon]

whya re vengeflies like this

[dusky lion]

because their ai is to just go to player

[copper nacelle]

hold up

[cunning lagoon]

then why do they suddenly stop going to player

[dusky lion]

uhhh

[copper nacelle]

[INFO]:---------------
[INFO]:IL_002d: ldfld System.Single UnityEngine.Vector2::x
[INFO]:IL_0032: ldarg.0
[INFO]:IL_0033: ldfld System.Single HeroController::JUMP_SPEED_UNDERWATER
[INFO]:CHANGED
[INFO]:IL_002d: ldfld System.Single UnityEngine.Vector2::x
[INFO]:IL_0032: ldc.r4 0
[INFO]:IL_0038: nop System.Void UnityEngine.Vector2::.ctor(System.Single,System.Single)
[INFO]:---------------

[dusky lion]

team chery

[copper nacelle]

why

why does this do this

please

[trim totem]

jump speed underwater

[copper nacelle]

i guess i don't need the nop then?

[cunning lagoon]

nop

[trim totem]

nop

[cunning lagoon]

may id ie

[copper nacelle]

nop

[trim totem]

nop

[dusky lion]

nop

[cunning lagoon]

i need to

[copper nacelle]

[INFO]:IL_002d: ldfld System.Single UnityEngine.Vector2::x
[INFO]:IL_0032: ldarg.0
[INFO]:IL_0033: ldfld System.Single HeroController::JUMP_SPEED_UNDERWATER
[INFO]:CHANGED
[INFO]:IL_002d: ldfld System.Single UnityEngine.Vector2::x
[INFO]:IL_0032: ldc.r4 0
[INFO]:IL_0038: newobj System.Void UnityEngine.Vector2::.ctor(System.Single,System.Single)
[INFO]:---------------

this looks fine

wtf

        IL_0076: ldfld     float32 [UnityEngine.CoreModule]UnityEngine.Vector2::x
        IL_007B: ldc.r4    0.0
        IL_0080: newobj    instance void [UnityEngine.CoreModule]UnityEngine.Vector2::.ctor(float32, float32)

????????

[cunning lagoon]

this is stupid

[copper nacelle]

please explain why this doesn't work

[cunning lagoon]

no you explain it

[copper nacelle]

u

it should

[cunning lagoon]

please ex`ñaom why vengeflies are dumb

[copper nacelle]

cause they're fps based and have shitty fsm ai

[cunning lagoon]

what if i played at 1fps

[copper nacelle]

they'd be slow

as fuck

[cunning lagoon]

hmm thats bad

ok the solution is to play at 300

they are getting stuck now

[copper nacelle]

pog

ok this doesn't make any fucking sense

[dusky lion]

solution is to hire the rain world devs to make hollow knight ai not shit

[copper nacelle]

this is simple il manip

why is it death

[cunning lagoon]

wow im getting it every single time

this is looking incredibly promising

[copper nacelle]

poggers

ok so they have ldarg.0 after this or whatever

hhhhhhh

fuck if i know why too

[tranquil glen]

you're playing at 300 fps kurosh?

[cunning lagoon]

i changed from 120 to 300 and now it seems to be completely fine

[tranquil glen]

k

I'll just have to do the same

cause fps changing isn't allowed

[cunning lagoon]

what

[tranquil glen]

you're not allowed to change your fps cap mid run

[cunning lagoon]

damn

[tranquil glen]

like you can do 300 here

thats fine

[cunning lagoon]

ok ill try to do it at 120

[tranquil glen]

no its fine

i'm just at 120 cause thats my norm

I'll be playing with debug like you

so i dont need to worry about slides

[cunning lagoon]

oh ok

ok i have a very good setup

this pogo is looking consistent af now

[tranquil glen]

nice

show

ivanna see

[copper nacelle]

i want to die

this doesn't make sense

[cunning lagoon]

it's the same one from the gif i sent you the other day

instead of knocking me to the right i let him knock me to the left

then kinda pogo around the platform

it looks silly but it seems to work

[copper nacelle]

why is il manip so hard

[tranquil glen]

whatever works

[copper nacelle]

maybe i should just try the dumb swap thing i wanted originally

[tranquil glen]

what are you trying to do 56?

[copper nacelle]

swap velocity vector args for like 8 methods at runtime

so like (x,y) => (y,x)

what the fuck

[tranquil glen]

why not just create some intermediary variables

[copper nacelle]

i have one

[tranquil glen]

set current x y to those

make 2

then set xy to opposite

[copper nacelle]

        private static void Jump(HookIL il)
        {
            HookILCursor c = il.At(0);
            while (c.FindNext(out HookILCursor[] cu,
                i => i.MatchLdfld<Vector2>("x"),
                i => i.MatchLdarg0(),
                i => i.Match(OpCodes.Ldfld)
            ))
            {
                Modding.Logger.Log("---------------");
                Modding.Logger.Log(il.Instrs[cu[0].Index]);
                Modding.Logger.Log(il.Instrs[cu[1].Index]);
                Modding.Logger.Log(il.Instrs[cu[2].Index]);

                var e = il.Instrs[cu[2].Index];
                
                il.Instrs[cu[2].Index] = il.Instrs[cu[0].Index];
                
                il.Instrs[cu[0].Index] = e;
                
                Modding.Logger.Log("CHANGED");
                
                Modding.Logger.Log(il.Instrs[cu[0].Index]);
                Modding.Logger.Log(il.Instrs[cu[1].Index]);
                Modding.Logger.Log(il.Instrs[cu[2].Index]);
                
                Modding.Logger.Log("---------------");
            }
        }

simple

[tranquil glen]

i know its inefficient to use 2 extra variables to swap two values but its so much easier

[copper nacelle]

in fact if you look

[INFO]:---------------
[INFO]:IL_002d: ldfld System.Single UnityEngine.Vector2::x
[INFO]:IL_0032: ldarg.0
[INFO]:IL_0033: ldfld System.Single HeroController::JUMP_SPEED_UNDERWATER
[INFO]:CHANGED
[INFO]:IL_002d: ldfld System.Single UnityEngine.Vector2::x
[INFO]:IL_0032: ldarg.0
[INFO]:IL_0033: ldfld System.Single HeroController::JUMP_SPEED_UNDERWATER
[INFO]:---------------
[INFO]:---------------
[INFO]:IL_0058: ldfld System.Single UnityEngine.Vector2::x
[INFO]:IL_005d: ldarg.0
[INFO]:IL_005e: ldfld System.Single HeroController::JUMP_SPEED
[INFO]:CHANGED
[INFO]:IL_0058: ldfld System.Single UnityEngine.Vector2::x
[INFO]:IL_005d: ldarg.0
[INFO]:IL_005e: ldfld System.Single HeroController::JUMP_SPEED

it swaps them

just like i wanted

and then it dies

or not

it just does nothing

great

why does that even break

ok what

literally doing nothing breaks it

i commented out the entire method and it breaks

i gotta sleep

pain

[dusky lion]

just do the ballmer's peak lol ez

[cunning lagoon]

@tranquil glen ok so for the last part i can never get the fly unstuck from below the platform

any advice

the fly i'm supposed to superslide off of

[trim totem]

just jump lol

[cunning lagoon]

ok i might be able to get this in a few days

no promises

but it's looking likely

[floral furnace]

kuro what was the wing trick you mentioned awhile ago?

[cunning lagoon]

when you swing your nail there's a small delay before you can use your wings

but you can cancel that by turning around

[floral furnace]

alright ty

[cunning lagoon]

https://i.imgur.com/Hqnjikv.mp4

you can see it there when i attack him from the right side

[floral furnace]

real shit i cannot love that gif enough

[cunning lagoon]

its p cool

[compact sedge]

that's still like the sexiest 6 second gif on the internet

[cunning lagoon]

vengeflies are bullshit and rng

[dusky lion]

especially the homing attack where it spews out balls of fire that home onto your positioned

[cunning lagoon]

this trash is the worst part about kp low jump

[cunning lagoon]

welp

so far it looks like maybe 95% of the runs die to them being impossible because of the rng in the vengeflies

so thats wonderful

so not only is it insanely hard to execute but the vast majority of runs will die to rng and there's nothing i can do to avoid it

great 😃

[warped sinew]

Enemies have slightly randomised spawn points. Enjoy

[cunning lagoon]

yeah and the flies move faster the higher your fps are

this garbage is worse than ngg by a wide margin

i regret saying i would do it

[trim totem]

stop

[leaden hedge]

lets make ngg2 faster at higher fps

the 753 special

[warped sinew]

oh yeah i was going to say, turn on vsync

or frame limit

it will take out some of the rng

[leaden hedge]

if the rng is mostly from timestep you can completely remove that with asm hacks

[warped sinew]

not sure what timestep is but most of the rng comes from the fact they have a spawn point then they they have a chance to spawn left or right of that point, possibly even up and down of it for flying enemies which might be why vengeflys are the worst. Thats how will explained it to me when i asked him about it cos i noticed it back in the day when i speenran

i was like... oh

[leaden hedge]

timestep is how long each frame takes

vsync will make it close to 1/60 seconds

but you can just replace a line of code in asm that calls a function that returns a float

and make it call a function in your mod that returns 0.2 or 0.1666

so it'd work more like old console games, high fps = very fast gameplay, low fps = very slow gameplay

also doesn't bring a bunch of lag from waiting for frames like vsync does

[fair rampart]

yo how can we put a general sound mod to the game?

I want to change something very minimal, the sound of the scream the enemies do before-fight, think broken vessel and hollow knight

[analog ermine]

Cherry Madness

New Regions - Explore West Berryier, the old bug farm that once supplied food for the rest of the kingdom. Now, doomed by the infection, the once peaceful place is now filled by deadly plants and residents alike.
Forests of the bones, placed under the deepnest where aniecnt ants live, and fire burn bright full of challanges, doom and darkness.

New Allies - Seven new allies to aid you on your quest through the new realm

New Enemies - Fifty unique enemies, all out for your doom

New Bossfights - Six new bossfights to stand in your way through the new realm

New Weapons - Utilise four new weapons of your own choice
Crossbow - A slow, long ranged weapon, firing the weapon requires you to stay still and aim the weapon before firing
Scythe - A slow, large weapon for cleaving large areas in front of you

Shield - A sturdy shield to protect your fragile body
Cherry Bombs - Reckless, deadly destruction.

New Charms - Expand your charm collection with several new charms
Snail’s Glue - 2 notches - Slows the rate you slide down walls
Berry Big Boom - 3 notches - Focusing while at full masks creates a shield. Once the shield is broken, it creates a large explosion around you.
Swift Aim - 2 notches - Spells and Crossbow bolts automatically aim at the closest enemy in sight
Burning Blast - 1 notch - Spells leave behind burning flames that deal damage over time.
Doomed Shriek - 1 notch - When you take damage, all nearby enemies are knocked back and stunned.
Wings of Rahhak - 3 notches - You can jump once more after running out of jumps
Bloodlust - 2 notches - Defeating an enemy while at full soul consumes twice the amount of soul to restore one mask

Snail’s Glue & Shape of Unn - Allows you to stay on walls and heal in slug form
Bloodlust & Quick Focus - Consumes the usual amount of soul to restore one mask
Bloodlust & Deep Focus - Consumes three times the amount of soul to restore two masks
Bloodlust & Quick Focus & Deep Focus - Consumes twice the amount of soul to restore two masks
Bloodlust & Shroom Spore - Creates the field of spores once healed

[civic hare]

you ever spend a bunch of time doing something esoteric and eventually, it finally works?

anyway, absrad does two beamsweeps in opposing directions at once now

[fair rampart]

@analog ermine Is that your mod, or new update from devs? If this is yours, sounds pretty ambitious.

[flat forum]

mod idea I think

[hollow pier]

where is doomed shrek

that was the only point of this entire mod

[fair rampart]

Sooooooome...

body once told me, the world is gonna roll me. I'm ain't a sharpest tool in the sheeed...

[exotic venture]

once again, only words and nothing in terms of progress

[solemn rivet]

shhh mys, let them dream

also

Bloodlust - 2 notches - Defeating an enemy while at full soul consumes twice the amount of soul to restore one mask this makes 0 sense

so it's basically a bad charm? If you have it on and kill enemies you lose soul

nice

[fair rampart]

I guess he means that when you kill enemy, and if you haven't part of health, it restores your heath automatically. But takes part of soul.

🤔

[solemn rivet]

still bad

very bad

awfully bad

[fair rampart]

Basically this could be kinda useful, when you have no time to use focus.

But I'm agreed. It need to be buffed.

[solemn rivet]

you're still using soul to heal

and too much soul at that

soul is waaaay more useful for spells

if you wanna do passive heals, do something like bloodborne

if you kill X enemies in quick succession, you get a heal

or maybe X quick hits in succession

something like that

[fair rampart]

Actually... you can have [charm name] which restores one mask of health if you hit enemy by one of meele techique, but takes amount of soul like a normal healing. If you have Spell Twister equipped, it takes even less.

[solemn rivet]

still awful

no one in their right mind woul waste that much soul healing when they could use it for casting spells

specially in boss fights, where you don't kill anything

so it becomes absolutely useless

[fair rampart]

Seems legit.

Or maybe then make it sorta like "hive blood". I mean, you need to hit enemy n+1 amount of times to restore one mask. And if enemy hits you, you're loosing your progress (with another "full" mask)

[solemn rivet]

that's what I said earlier tho

[fair rampart]

Oh. Derp.

[solemn rivet]

but then quicknail becomes too op

because you're not only increasing your dps, but also your survivability

[fair rampart]

🤔

[solemn rivet]

and quicknail is already BiS for every nail build

and even for mixed builds

[fair rampart]

Is it possible to add non-compatibility for some charms?

[solemn rivet]

wdym

"you can't equip X and Y together"?

[fair rampart]

Yes.

[solemn rivet]

possible, sure

but doesn't sound like the best idea

[fair rampart]

So then we need better balancing.

[solemn rivet]

Draco sure does

I don't need any balancing

[fair rampart]

Actually... why no one doesn't uses bows or at least slings in hallownest? Just imagine, something like these guys in City of Tears...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccWkkrX1G2o

[floral furnace]

the minds of hallownest is too intelligent and advance to use primitive weapons like bows and shit, thats why they just throw swords as projectiles

[fair rampart]

Absolutelly legit.

[solemn rivet]

I'd say it's because of the game's camera

you don't really see much, so it'd be unfair to dodge things from offscreen

[native wing]

compact discord 🤢

[solemn rivet]

and if you have close-range crossbowman such as in S&S, they're very easy to kill, since they're already pretty close

[floral furnace]

so what we need is a 3d remake of Hollow Knight to get bows alright

[exotic venture]

can we also get a hookshot then

please

[floral furnace]

A Knight In Time when

[solemn rivet]

u do it ttacco

[floral furnace]

Ok sure let me just make a kickstarter

[solemn rivet]

scrub

[floral furnace]

😔

[analog ermine]

@fair rampart mod.

[rapid marsh]

Are people still working on the enemy randomizer?

[hazy sentinel]

🤔

[hollow pier]

is he talking about pop radiant

[solemn rivet]

he can't be talking about WK right?

[hollow pier]

oh no he is

this hurts even more now

[rain cedar]

I don't get how dashmaster helps with this strategy

[rapid marsh]

I believe he is talking about Watcher Knight, yes.

[hollow pier]

more sharp shadow damage duh

sean such a noob smh

[rain cedar]

[rapid marsh]

Dashmaster doesn't make a difference with his strategy.

[rain cedar]

To be fair sharp shadow barely matters here either

Unless he's dashing at them from far away for whatever reason

[hazy sentinel]

he's shooting through them smh my head

[rapid marsh]

I used sharp shadow to dash through them, when they're jumping and rolling.

[solemn rivet]

you ever try

walking

or

jumping

[rain cedar]

Or even dashing through them without sharp shadow

Also works

[solemn rivet]

that's if you've got shadedash

but sure

or even better

you can just

kill them

[flat forum]

@trim totem

[hazy sentinel]

just dash through them without shade cloak lol

[flat forum]

Also Veru

why only one у

why not Уумуу

[trim totem]

how did you make the texture mod

[solemn rivet]

because

[hazy sentinel]

u ever play the game in russian

[solemn rivet]

Uumuu

[hazy sentinel]

@flat forum

[flat forum]

They translated it with one y?

@trim totem Pure Knight?

[hollow pier]

Ho y

[hazy sentinel]

@solemn rivet

!

[hollow pier]

where you live

[trim totem]

yes

[solemn rivet]

@hazy sentinel !

[flat forum]

Well

I did the texture part

the actual code is @copper nacelle's, apparently building upon InvertKnight

you need to ask him abiut that

But what do you want to do with retexturing?

I'm interested

[trim totem]

pv arm

[hollow pier]

he wants to make New mod from me! Adds new area West Berryier

Doomed shrek

[hazy sentinel]

what lol mean

[flat forum]

Oh!

@cobalt hill hey

I know this isn't a channel you usually might get called to, but I think you'll find this interesting

[hazy sentinel]

🐷 why is this in frequently used

[flat forum]

Khan also wants to add the PV arm to the sprites

[hollow pier]

it is even more now good work

[flat forum]

maybe you two should talk about it

[cobalt hill]

Sup?

[hollow pier]

what's upslash

[trim totem]

did you just send the sprites to 56 or ard the sprites in yourself

[flat forum]

OKFIRSTOFALLILEFTTHATFORWHENYOUWAKEUPIT'SFUCKING1AMGOTOSLEEPRIGHTNOWBYAKKO

I DM the spritea to 56

[hazy sentinel]

space bar

[flat forum]

Mobile

[trim totem]

did you add them to the sprite sheet

[hollow pier]

spacebyarkko

[cobalt hill]

Papers my dude, I have to a conference meeting thing at midnight because I’m the only person in this side of earth apparently

I must stay awake q-q

So shoot, sup?

Also it’s only like 11:40, is cool

[flat forum]

Okay

I mean

you're the adult here

and I'm the one that takes care of people because they can't manage their sleep schedule if their life depended on it

So, yeah

Khan wants to add the arm back to PV

and you had mentioned you wanted to do the same as well

so, I called you

you two talk about it

[cobalt hill]

Papers I have mastered the art

of surviving on 3 hrs sleep

Also I'm currently too busy and distracted to handle the sprite thing, so I think Khan can figure it. I'm mostly aiming to include PV's armor on everything

[flat forum]

mhm

but please

3h of sleep ain't healthy

take care of yourself

[cobalt hill]

I knooow

[flat forum]

then take care

[trim totem]

armor would be cool

but i definitely wouldn't do that

[rapid marsh]

What about a mod that randomly changes your controls after 10, 15 or 20 seconds. Maybe with a small sound to indicate that the change will arrive in a few seconds.

[young walrus]

chaos mod

[rapid marsh]

Yeah, but Chaos mod changes everything. I was talking about just the controls.

[young walrus]

so make it

[rapid marsh]

I thought this was a place to discuss modding ideas.

[young walrus]

depends. throwing out random mod ideas usually doesn't result in having them made

[rapid marsh]

It doesn't have to be made, it was just an idea I had, nothing more.

[buoyant obsidian]

why not add multiplayer?

[vapid cape]

I sat down to try and think of more ideas for Exaltation then realized they all sucked.

75% of it was "lower notch cost" and that's boring as fuck

[young walrus]

p5 benches become checkpoints, but at the cost of a portion of your hp

[flat forum]

That's actually pretty clever

[somber cedar]

V e r t i c a l c r y s t a l h e a r t h

[young walrus]

you mean a rocket jump?

[copper nacelle]

hearth

also gradow made actual vertical cheart

[hollow pier]

you mean spazzing cdash

[copper nacelle]

no he fixed it

[somber cedar]

Real shit?

[civic hare]

just spent a long time debugging a string comparison failing only to discover it's because i left the placeholder text

200iq

[copper nacelle]

are you buffing abs rad

[civic hare]

yes

[copper nacelle]

now get someone to play pan5 with all boss buffs

[trim totem]

what are you going to do for absrad

[civic hare]

Things

[trim totem]

new phase?

[civic hare]

nah

mostly increasing the density of attacks, not the speed or overlap; eg, orb barrage attack spawns more and faster, but the orbs behave the same and there's a bit more downtime at the start and end

absrad has a lot of difficult overlaps/combinations going on, so i'm trying to be careful to avoid attacks that can't be dodged

[copper nacelle]

gonna update the api w/ the new monomod il stuff

[civic hare]

this mod has the best bugs

[copper nacelle]

[mortal trout]

true true true true final boss

infinite light wall

[native wing]

Thank you this clip was wonderful

[copper nacelle]

updated the api

should have il copy fixed for unity's mono

[compact sedge]

the radiance but she doesn't hold back

[trim totem]

intersecting light walls?

[copper nacelle]

yo

big pog

il manip workeed

no hard saves is breaking tho

oh fuck

uhh

don't swap them

the _1 hooks are gone now

now it's _string_string_bool

neat i guess

[vapid cape]

combine that Radiance clip with Glorious Comrade, and it's the Iron Curtain

[copper nacelle]

[rain cedar]

Nice I love when libraries change their function names

Good thing you would never do that and screw over your loyal users

[copper nacelle]

same

[hollow pier]

any% races soon tm

[rain cedar]

no

[copper nacelle]

u ever just jump sideways

[rain cedar]

no

[copper nacelle]

this doesn't work

[civic hare]

fsmviewer keeps crashing when i select certain states

[rain cedar]

What are you trying to do?

With the IL modding

[copper nacelle]

new Vector2(a, b) => new Vector2(b, a)

in a bunch of the move methods

[rain cedar]

You should just have to swap two ld commands then

Sounds easy

[copper nacelle]

then you get new Vector2(JUMP_SPEED, rb2d.x)

[rain cedar]

How is that wrong?

I thought that's what you wanted

[copper nacelle]

it is

but it's not a good sideways jump

so i'm replacing rb2d.x with rb2d.y

[rain cedar]

Ok I see

So swap them and change the ldfld?

[copper nacelle]

yeah that's what i did

idk why it doesn't work

why

[rain cedar]

I don't even really know what the problem is here

[copper nacelle]

you can rotate the knight but the movement stuff doesn't get rotated

https://streamable.com/ucf6r

[rain cedar]

hot

[native wing]

this looks really w~rd

[copper nacelle]

i might try 180 degrees

easier gravity

[trim totem]

why

[copper nacelle]

why not

180 is garbage

because

all the ceilings aren't flat

[civic hare]

hey can anyone replicate this? if you open level457 in fsmviewer and select Absolute Radiance - Attack Commands, selecting any of the EB '#' or CW/CCW Spawn events will cause fsmviewer to crash

[copper nacelle]

yeah

reee

[civic hare]

all I want to do is make the lasers more fasterer

what did i do to deserve this pain

[copper nacelle]

just dump it to txt

ModCommon has a method

print scene hierarchy or something

[hollow pier]

how do i stop this

[rain cedar]

Nohboard sucks, make your own