archived-modding-development

[weary stream]

oh okay

also,

if you are animating grimm

please make it pleasant

<_<

the animation doesnt look right

[leaden hedge]

i should probably bring it down to 24f for the hitbox spawning because thats pretty free, its only really 18f when it starts getting 50/50

[weary stream]

another thing

the windup you are talking about are the red particles?

if thats the case

you cant perceive how does it work and predict it :/

the big particles

not the ones in the floor

you should do it like the actual nightmare grimm does

the windup

gonna work on the minimap today

and see if i can fix the damn bug already

[leaden hedge]

is this aligned good enough (also I do quality anime tier hitboxes ) https://giant.gfycat.com/ImmediateMenacingHorse.webm

[floral furnace]

noice

[cunning lagoon]

looks fine to me

[weary stream]

looks fine for me

[cunning lagoon]

also do you happen to be in need of a playtester for ngg2

wink wink

[floral furnace]

youre right kuro

kdt remember to ping 56 he might be interested in playtesting

[leaden hedge]

whats playtesting?

I just assume stuff is doable and release it

[cunning lagoon]

making sure the boss doesnt end up being ngg1

[weak lodge]

Hey Kurosh nice color change

[cunning lagoon]

thanks

[floral furnace]

hi nice color change

im kush

[weak lodge]

Hah

[weary stream]

oh man not like this D:

[leaden hedge]

also isn't a distort shader pretty much just a normal map bump shader

[weary stream]

no

i have my own distortion shader and i tried many others but the way it distorts is different

[leaden hedge]

    half3 bump = UnpackNormal(tex2D( _BumpTex, i.uvbump));
    half2 offset = bump.rg;
    half alphaBump = (abs(bump.r + bump.g) - 0.01)*25;
    clip(alphaBump - 0.1);
    offset = offset * _BumpAmt * _GrabTexture_TexelSize.xy * i.color.a;
    i.uvgrab.xy = offset * i.uvgrab.z + i.uvgrab.xy;
    half4 col = tex2Dproj( _GrabTexture, UNITY_PROJ_COORD(i.uvgrab));

    col.a = saturate(col.a * alphaBump);
    return col;

looks like a bump shader to me

[weary stream]

thats not the whole shader

there are way more than that

[leaden hedge]

yeah theres more than that, theres a vertex shader too

but thats pretty much the entire frag shader

https://giant.gfycat.com/BigheartedPepperyBoaconstrictor.webm is probably easier to see now

[weak lodge]

i like this

[floral furnace]

damn that looks fucking nice

[weak lodge]

im gonna install this mod 100%

canon to me

also ktd where you got those sprites from theyre fucking amazing

[floral furnace]

hope performance wont dieded

[weak lodge]

^

[cunning lagoon]

@copper nacelle would like this

[leaden hedge]

shouldn't be too bad

[weak lodge]

is this gonna be in ngg 2?

[leaden hedge]

yeah probably

seems to run fine even unpooled

i have a r7 250x and I can fill the screen with it without going below 60fps so must be fine https://giant.gfycat.com/GrimSillyBedbug.webm

[weary stream]

90 fps with only that?

can you show the profiler data

[leaden hedge]

it only goes like 100 without it

[weary stream]

it should be about 300~1000

you dont have anything else loaded rather than the gameobjects with the shaders

ingame it could drop pretty heavy under 20

thats why i asked for the profiler

to see if there's something wrong

it might be an vsync though

[leaden hedge]

I have vsync off

[weary stream]

if youa re using the same sprite you should be able to easily have 100~200 on screen without performance drops

[leaden hedge]

my gpu is beyond bad

[weary stream]

unless you are giving rigidbodies to the projectiles

mine too

[leaden hedge]

no its just a rigidbody for the entire pillar

[weary stream]

but unity editor uses vsync by default

[leaden hedge]

its not even on the same object, its a sibling

nah I have vsync off

[weary stream]

i mean

if each pillar has a rigidbody

or is it

all in one

[leaden hedge]

its a boxcollider2d

theres no physics

[weary stream]

yeah, is it trigger?

[leaden hedge]

do triggers use less cpu

its not currently a trigger, but it will be when I export it

[weary stream]

rigidbodies are used only on entities that have to check for stuff (the knight), when you use many projectiles you instead remove the rigid bodies and let the object that will collide with them be the one who checks collisions

oh my

yeah you need to make it trigger

it not only lowers cpu a lot

but it also doesnt interrupt the collisions with the knight

if you make it collide with it it will bug

for projectiles you have use always triggers

[leaden hedge]

I know knight collides with it otherwise

[weary stream]

i mean

dont give the pillars a rigidbody

let the character be the one who checks it

it saves a lot of cpu

[leaden hedge]

they don't have a rigidbody

they only have a collider

[weary stream]

okay then its fine

still i want to see the profiler

90 fps is really really low

if the only things you have in the game are the grimm ai and the effects

and the pillars

disable the vsync in the profiler and see how much it improves btw

because as i said, unity locks it by default

@rain cedar The minimap is done, it should be working fine, it might have minor bugs but its working and merged with the charming mod, did you update it the last 3 days? just in case i have to update code, apart from that, how do i pull? Should i raise the version to 0.0.3?

[leaden hedge]

this is with vsync

[weary stream]

i said

profiler

unity profiler

this thing

https://puu.sh/BCTO3.png

[leaden hedge]

hit em with the old "other"

[weary stream]

"shadowcasters 40" wtf

check whats the purple thing in the gpu

and disable shadows for all objects

you are using just one sprite or a sprite sheet for all pillars right?

and same material

also, are you changing the material from code?

you have too many calls

[leaden hedge]

no materials are only set in inspector

[weary stream]

okay

but they are shared?

same spritesheet

spritesheet / sprite

another thing

are you instancing the pillars?

[leaden hedge]

the 90fps is pooled

its like 70 without

[weary stream]

pooled?

explain

i saw the garbagecollector do spikes

and it usually does that when destroys or instances an object

you can prevent it by instancing the pillars and setting them inactive at the beginning of the fight and use a pool manager for them

so you dont have to instance them

[leaden hedge]

so having them pooled?

[weary stream]

yeah

[leaden hedge]

like they are

[weary stream]

um it doesnt look like that

arent you instancing them when you want them to appear?

[hollow pier]

@copper nacelle qol just skips the entire dreamer thing is this intended

[cunning lagoon]

yes

[hollow pier]

what is this

do you wear a blue tshirt under the red one

[cunning lagoon]

i do

[hollow pier]

ok dad

[floral furnace]

told you the blue was better

[hollow pier]

[cunning lagoon]

what is this trend of people naming themselves me

[leaden hedge]

no they are pooled https://giant.gfycat.com/PepperyPoisedFlies.webm

I doubled the fps by removing lights, that you probably wouldn't even notice anyway

[warped sinew]

Its a cool name

today we are all DLK

[floral furnace]

hi red DLK, im white DLK

[warped sinew]

Pleased to meet you DLK the white

[floral furnace]

Please to meet you too DLK the red

[flat forum]

[weary stream]

@leaden hedge there is something crearly wrong with the drawcalls and the pillar controllers, why do you have so many?

[river eagle]

@cunning lagoon Where does the DL even come from?

[cunning lagoon]

i dont remember lmao

[weak lodge]

hai papers @flat forum

[weary stream]

and remove the shadows from the renderers of all gameobjects, they also check for shadows

[flat forum]

Hey Knightmere!

[cunning lagoon]

it was an acronym for some bs i dont remember what

[leaden hedge]

pillar controller is just an empty gameobject to move the rest of the pillar as a group 🤔

[weary stream]

you are not pooling them..

can you send the project?

[weak lodge]

ttacco and i have stolen it so whatever it meant its irrelevant and given a new meaning- fucking god

[leaden hedge]

you can see theres nothing being instantiated

[floral furnace]

The meaning DL, we shall never know 😩

[leaden hedge]

theres literally no scripts being ran

[floral furnace]

yes knightmere

[weak lodge]

DL means fucking god

D- fucking

[leaden hedge]

the ngg-controller is disabled

[cunning lagoon]

ducking lod

[weary stream]

i'm pretty sure there is something wrong but i cant tell

[weak lodge]

ah

yes

Ducking Lod

[flat forum]

DLK
Don't
Lose.
Kill.

[weak lodge]

ah

[cunning lagoon]

but the k is already part of kurosh

[weak lodge]

Killmere

[floral furnace]

sounds like a badly translated port from some other country tbh

[cunning lagoon]

unless i'm DLK urosh 🤔

[warped sinew]

Deranged Little Koala

[weak lodge]

oh

[floral furnace]

There you have it folks mystery solved

[leaden hedge]

theres no gc spikes

[weak lodge]

@warped sinew question, how often did you ddive during all bindings absrad?

[warped sinew]

a lot

[weary stream]

there are a lot of spikes and huge performance changes

[warped sinew]

in platforming bit i wait for her to spawn near me

[weak lodge]

ah

[warped sinew]

then dive her

hit hit hit dive

[weak lodge]

thanks

will use the graig strat

[cunning lagoon]

graig when are you beating my ig score

i've been trying to get a bunch of people to play it but no one wants to

[hollow pier]

56 you're frozen after killing a dreamer but pausing unpausing gives you control again

[cunning lagoon]

he ended up adding it

[hollow pier]

make it give you full hp thanks

that's like half the reason to kill a dreamer

[cunning lagoon]

ah thaTS ACTUALL A BIG DEAL

@copper nacelle

idk what happened there

[hollow pier]

ok

[cunning lagoon]

it also doesnt respawn enemies

how am i gonna enjoy my playthroughs without the stupid devout blocking my path

[leaden hedge]

well the cpu spikes are like 50% particle updates

[tranquil glen]

DL what the fuck

Is this allowed?

[leaden hedge]

although theres only like 20 odd particles per pillar

[tranquil glen]

Cane he do that

[cunning lagoon]

i can

[tranquil glen]

I dont like it

[weary stream]

your particles are underperforming, thats what it looks like

[leaden hedge]

the texture is pooled as memory allocations never change at all, besides meshes for particles

[cunning lagoon]

well thats unfortunate because this pfp is staying

[weary stream]

otherwise the drawcalls should be between 3 and 10

[floral furnace]

again told you blue was the best way

😤

[weary stream]

um

idk but

[cunning lagoon]

when i get promoted to team cherry dev i'll change it back

[weary stream]

if the particles shared the same sprite

as a shared sprite

and the same material

the drawcalls would be reduced to 1

no matter how many pillars you had

apart from that

you are pooling them with setactive right

[leaden hedge]

theres no pooling even being done in the 140fps, they arent being disabled and re-enabled

they are just looping their animation

[weary stream]

?

i think you dont understand what is pooling

[leaden hedge]

I know what pooling is

[weary stream]

well, to make sure just explain

[leaden hedge]

you make x objects, stick them in a list, when you activate one you pull it out of the list

when its finished you put it back in the list

and disable it

[weary stream]

yeah

but it shouldnt affect performance

[leaden hedge]

theres nothing being instantiated here at all

[weary stream]

its weird

[leaden hedge]

there no pooling or instantiated

I premade all 21 and left them to run

[weary stream]

i think its only the particles doing something wrong

[leaden hedge]

so theres no chance of script causing errors

[weary stream]

because the gpu seems overloaded when you sent the picture

[leaden hedge]

well if the profiler would actually tell me what "other" was

[weary stream]

you can check

purple is ui i think

oh nvm

[leaden hedge]

its probably transparency problems

[hollow pier]

haha yes

[leaden hedge]

it should only be 5 draws in total but its 5 per because of transparency

[floral furnace]

wow is that darkmod

[hollow pier]

i may or may not have gotten some form of sextuple room dupe

[weary stream]

transparent drawcalls are still batched on the same drawcall so it cant be that

wait

well i cant see it on my own

[leaden hedge]

too lazy to try and make a batmesh to then try and make particle emit from it to make them look like fancy firebats, so spheres are good too https://giant.gfycat.com/DishonestSourKissingbug.webm

[flat forum]

KDT lemme play dat

just add a score timer thing

[compact sedge]

pfft this isn't infinite nightmare god grimm 2.

anyway in all seriousness this is hecking cool

[flat forum]

also make an new fireball spawn every 10 seconds

[compact sedge]

and you are really pushing the envelope with modding

[leaden hedge]

ngg2 will spawn a grimmchild

that will shoot them

instead of firebats

[flat forum]

NGG spawns Grimmchildren that shoot you

?

[leaden hedge]

he will yeah

ill probably give them primal aspid ai too

[flat forum]

Oh, by the way

I had noticed the same movement AI in another enemy

it was

uhh

wait I can't remember

[cunning lagoon]

🤔

@hollow pier good luck on the race

will you be streaming it

[hollow pier]

yeah

at a crisp 720p48

[cunning lagoon]

i'm probably gonna be gone but i might be able to watch a little bit

[weak lodge]

i prefer this attack over the primal aspid idea tbh

[weary stream]

looks cool :p

drawcalls shouldnt rise that much with transparency if they share material, as i said, same material transparent materials are rendered once

if it doesnt hit performance go on

but if it hits you will have to make changes :p

[leaden hedge]

it batches per pillar

[weary stream]

oh then i know whats wrong

unity for some reason is instancing the material for each pillar instead of sharing the asset

@rain cedar I asked before but i will ask again because i didnt see any answer: Did you update the charming mod the last days? I have the minimap working in your mod already and i want to pull it to gitgud but i dont know how to do it

[rain cedar]

I haven't

[weary stream]

okay

what about the pull thing

[rain cedar]

https://help.github.com/articles/about-pull-requests/

[weary stream]

should i update the version from 0.0.2 to 0.0.3?

[copper nacelle]

@cunning lagoon the ngg thing looks sick

also wtf

why are you blue

[cunning lagoon]

i was told to change to blue to match my name

did you see 11 pillar hits

[copper nacelle]

no

[cunning lagoon]

https://i.imgur.com/Hqnjikv.mp4

[daring snow]

Holy shit

That’s sleek

[flat forum]

Sharp Shadow for an extra hit

[leaden hedge]

just fluke once for like 9 hits 🤔

[cunning lagoon]

just fluke twice for 18 🤔

[warped sinew]

12 might be possible with TAS or frame perfect timing

you might be able to get three hits on the way down at the end

if you saved enough time from being frame perfect

at the start

[cunning lagoon]

perhaps

[warped sinew]

i think slash slash upslash as you fall from the top

and if you were fast enough it might actually work.

[cunning lagoon]

yeah that's how i originally was trying to get the 11th hit

instead of getting a 3rd one on the right

so if you theoretically were fast enough it could maybe work

[warped sinew]

the timing is insane if its possible at all

[river eagle]

is this Touhou?

[cunning lagoon]

no this is hollow knight

how can you be so ootl hal

[river eagle]

ootl

[cunning lagoon]

out of the lööp

[river eagle]

okay now this is ironic

[cunning lagoon]

is it

am i ootl? 🤔

[flat forum]

are you an Oogling Ooma Travelling Litvia?

[cunning lagoon]

no i'm DLKurosh

i guess they haven't considered the option that they have no idea how to dodge said moves

#hk-discussion is just as bad as always

[flat forum]

you know what else is bad

[cunning lagoon]

my life

[flat forum]

no, me

who can't NGGGANPWDNAWOND

[river eagle]

Papeeeeeeers, what did we talk about self depricating

@flat forum read it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthy_narcissism

[flat forum]

Me and self-deprication is like 56 and unhealthy sleep

[river eagle]

but that's not a good thing

[flat forum]

I knew

I know

(that was a typo)

[cunning lagoon]

different strokes to different folks

some of us enjoy the suffering

[river eagle]

Lies

[leaden hedge]

stop kink shaming

crippling depression is my kink

[weary stream]

why github is so fucking hard

[cunning lagoon]

i'll tell you what else is hard 😩

[weary stream]

I cant make a pull with the code

why do i have to install a mac and use a command window? -.-

[cunning lagoon]

fucking hero

actual legend

[flat forum]

@river eagle

[hazy sentinel]

lore btw

[cunning lagoon]

delciosu

[river eagle]

uma delicia

[hazy sentinel]

uumuu vore

[weak lodge]

alright i'm getting 6-7 hits on nkg ;-;

[cunning lagoon]

poggers

[weak lodge]

well that attack anyway

[cunning lagoon]

if you want an easy 8 do 2 left, 3 below, 2 right, dash through him and turn around and hit him

[hazy sentinel]

if you want an easy 9 do that and have sharp shadow

[cunning lagoon]

or the opposite if he spawns on the other side ofc

[weak lodge]

thx

[hazy sentinel]

sure love college essays

[flat forum]

what are they about?

[weak lodge]

тщ

[trim totem]

where are you applying

[weak lodge]

oh ok then i just got 9

thats cool.

[trim totem]

go to harvard

[flat forum]

н

[river eagle]

just 🐝 urself and your dreams will come true

ez

[trim totem]

i don't beelieve it

[weak lodge]

alright there's no way im getting more than 9

ever

oh wait

sharp shadow

[leaden hedge]

how to destroy fps 101 https://gfycat.com/JubilantSizzlingAmericanquarterhorse

[weak lodge]

[leaden hedge]

here it is without lag https://gfycat.com/NarrowGloriousHart

[flat forum]

KDT

is this NGG2

[weary stream]

there you have your particle problems 😃

[leaden hedge]

ngg3

[weary stream]

but looks fantastic tbh

[weak lodge]

hey kurosh where do you get these strats from anyway

[river eagle]

You mean NGG2 episode 2?

[flat forum]

you mean NGG2 2:Electric Boogaloo 2: Tokyo Drift

[weak lodge]

^

[cunning lagoon]

idk i was like i should optimize my nkg

and so i did

[trim totem]

why

[cunning lagoon]

wdym why

to be more efficient at killing him

[weak lodge]

also

[trim totem]

i mean why the fire

[weak lodge]

have you traid nailbouncing, idk if it's more efficient but nailbouncing on him gets me a solid 7-8, though i know you get more

[cunning lagoon]

uhh

i have to go now but i'll check tomorrow

[weak lodge]

ah

bai kurosh

[cunning lagoon]

but pogos probably wouldn't help getting 12

it's a matter of attacking every time your nail is off cooldown if that makes sense

i'll try anyway

[weak lodge]

yeppo, and uhh, when will you come back, hours 👀

[fair rampart]

TEAM CHERRY ANNOUNCES NIGHTMARE KING GRIMM TWO

[cunning lagoon]

Am on phone so forgive spellig errors
Ill be bacl in a few hours but i am a human so i must sleep so probablyy like tomorrow

12 hits are certainly not humanly possiblw though

[copper nacelle]

wait before you sleep how p3

[leaden hedge]

do

[cunning lagoon]

Dodge the attacls

[copper nacelle]

[compact sedge]

git gud

[copper nacelle]

thanks very helpful

[leaden hedge]

git bad

[copper nacelle]

yes

[cunning lagoon]

Also am not goong to sleep yet idiot

[copper nacelle]

u

[native wing]

but it past youre bed ti

[native wing]

🤔

[compact sedge]

it's deep learning generated

or whatever they call it

[weak lodge]

hey look it's old kurosh, the washed up old fella, we got the new blue boi 😩

😤

😔

[weary stream]

@rain cedar i uploaded the pull request for the charming mod 😃

[rain cedar]

Cool

[weary stream]

check it out whenever you can

[leaden hedge]

feels like this will be easy once it gets in game https://giant.gfycat.com/OptimisticIdolizedDiamondbackrattlesnake.webm

[void tree]

never knew that HK was a fangame

[leaden hedge]

theres no memes

so it can't be a fangame

[void tree]

idk, some fangames don't have memes

[compact sedge]

but all fangames are memes

[leaden hedge]

it wont be this meme anyway, pillars is going to have more delay after it, and fireballs + uppercut will have more startup

although I guess once grimmkid starts spamming shit too

[compact sedge]

no kdt ur supposed to be making an unfair boss that requires good rng and a computer player just to beat

you've gotten soft

what's next? The boss is actually gonna be fun?

[leaden hedge]

probably not

probably more fun than ngg though

[compact sedge]

I mean no way in hell whatever comes out of this is less fun than soul tyrant or elder hu

[leaden hedge]

also i remember that white defender and gpz are also dream bosses

so they should be in the fight too 🤔

so thats 5 phases and 5 debuffs

[compact sedge]

but they're not radiant dream bosses

although neither is NKG

[leaden hedge]

but I need more garbage 🤔

[void tree]

just throw in 2 markoths in the final phase for good measure

[leaden hedge]

you won't be fighting them at the same time

it'll be instead of balloons you'll fight nightmare versions of the dream bosses, and then you'll get a debuff

[compact sedge]

Honestly if you make it so more than 2 people can actually play it and enjoy it, I will play the fuck out of it

[void tree]

That's a really interesting idea

hope it works out as well as it sounds

[leaden hedge]

nightmare tyrant will disable soul, nightmare kin will disable charms probably

[hollow pier]

fc gives you one hp

[leaden hedge]

fc was either going to be 50% hp or nail0

[hollow pier]

nail0 is a buff tbh

[leaden hedge]

gpz will be grimmchild adds

dunno about wd

[hollow pier]

whenever balls hit the ground they make pillars

woke

[compact sedge]

man this is starting to sound like a mod that I can actually enjoy

I guess until I get to radiance and it's fucking tohou patterns but I'm a knight and not a space ship

[cunning lagoon]

"we're gonna try to finish the bingo with Monstah (and Ptkyr maybe, maybe we hurt him but he doesn't want to speak to us cry ), hit me up when you want to start the rando bingo"
@hollow pier explain

[hollow pier]

yeah i died in the middle

[cunning lagoon]

Thdt doesnt explain much

[hollow pier]

yes

[cunning lagoon]

Did you not bench like ever

[hollow pier]

no i left without saying anything to deal with irl

which was dumb i should've said brb

[cunning lagoon]

Well i heard your voice so the joke's on You really

Dlk wons again

Wins

[hollow pier]

typos again

[cunning lagoon]

Am on phone so you Cant hold it againste

Against me

[hollow pier]

🤔

[weary stream]

do you plan to keep the "bullet hell" attack?

[leaden hedge]

which bullet hell

[weary stream]

the only one that is bullet hell

when he becomes a "ball"

and starts shooting balls

[leaden hedge]

oh you mean vanilla moves

[weary stream]

yeah

[leaden hedge]

probably not

[weary stream]

you could make one like this

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_CmcBOm6kBqo/TFh1PQJhsQI/AAAAAAAAAHI/gpz1VW7_P8w/s1600/Bullethell.jpg

[leaden hedge]

its pretty boring

[weary stream]

it would be probably so fun to dodge 😃

boring?

lul what

[leaden hedge]

balloon is like 10+ seconds of not being able to attack

and its normally not hard to dodge

[weary stream]

what are you talking about

i do hit him 6~7 times during that attack everytime

[leaden hedge]

you're shooting 6 fireballs at him?

[weary stream]

no, attacking him

i'm using

[cunning lagoon]

[weary stream]

lightbringer

i know normal attacks doesnt work on him

but

you can make a different attack based on that

just bullet hell

like radiance does

there are tons of patterns possible

[leaden hedge]

who would win

one patterny boi

or one shadey boi and down + spell

[cunning lagoon]

[compact sedge]

I mean if ur mod is unfairly hard I will use redwing

[leaden hedge]

ill put redwing anticode in

[compact sedge]

e

c

h

put code that makes it delete the user's system32 folder if redwing is installed and also make it closed source and don't tell anyone

[leaden hedge]

if only dnspy existed

[compact sedge]

pay for a fancy code obfuscation service

and sue anyone who tries reversing it

[leaden hedge]

ill just generate my code in asm

and inject it in a bunch of places

[weary stream]

xDDD

[cunning lagoon]

OwO

[leaden hedge]

owo whats this

notices bulge

[fair rampart]

closed source hollow knight mods are tiny brain

open source is big brain

locking the code link behind a roblox puzzle is galaxy brain

[leaden hedge]

beat ngg2 with darkmod to get the source

[delicate stone]

@exotic venture was that a reply to me? the summery for qol doesn't mention it. but even if it does is there some way to get only that part and not things like unfixing speedrun bugs?

[exotic venture]

might be

but yeah it has an infinite myla thing going on

[leaden hedge]

qol doesn't unfix anything that wasn't just straight up a bad change

[exotic venture]

you can turn off everything else in the mods menu

[delicate stone]

thanks

[viscid perch]

Mod where you play as olgrim when?

[rain cedar]

u

[hazy sentinel]

mod where you play as cyanpr when

[leaden hedge]

mod where you make a mod when

[hollow pier]

ura

[cunning lagoon]

nium

[exotic venture]

mod where you are a mod when

it took me a while to realise that was a hard jab wow

[rain cedar]

@copper nacelle https://github.com/5FiftySix6/HollowKnight.QoL/pull/1 thanks

[copper nacelle]

[rain cedar]

I guess I should have made fast text toggleable

And added the new files to your namespace

And the .csproj

I'm pretty lazy

[copper nacelle]

merged

[rain cedar]

Wow merged as is

Gonna make me be the one to fix it

I'll do it later

[copper nacelle]

I was just gonna fix it when I went downstairs

[rain cedar]

That works

Also dreamers are fucked in qol

[copper nacelle]

fuck

[rain cedar]

I thought it was my hard save thing

But I removed qol and they work again

I just get infinite white screen going into them

[copper nacelle]

ahh

I added a dreamer skip thing

didn't work I guess

[rain cedar]

You could just modify the dreamer FSMs in world

So if you hit them with the dream nail you get the stuff

Instead of the whole shit where you beat the dudes up

Maybe easier

[hollow pier]

mine worked

[copper nacelle]

that's kinda what I tried to do

[hollow pier]

except i had noclip so that might've saved me

[copper nacelle]

except in a more dumb way

I had it transition back and then give you the stuff whenever you transitioned to a dreamer scene

and also disable the white flash gameobject to try and fix the infinite white screen glitch

wow something actually good out of #hk-discussion

[rain cedar]

Is that from enemy rando?

[wintry rune]

quick question what does room mode and chaos mode do in enemy randomizer

[copper nacelle]

probably

room mode is per room

chaos is random on every load

[wintry rune]

ok thanks

[weary oyster]

holy fuck someone needs to make a mod where its just gruz mothers endlessly

each splits into 2 more

please

i need this

[cunning lagoon]

🤔

[copper nacelle]

ok

[weary oyster]

infinite gruz mom

leaderboards when

[cunning lagoon]

ax play infinite grimm

you aree my last hope

[weary oyster]

why haha

[rain cedar]

Gruz mother but every time you kill one it splits into 2 grimms and 2 gruz mothers

[cunning lagoon]

idk i'm the only one who plays it and i need the competition

graig used to play but idk what he's been up to

[copper nacelle]

I play ig

[weary oyster]

eh

[copper nacelle]

on ngg mode

[weary oyster]

it gets pretty repetitive

[copper nacelle]

have you played the new one

[cunning lagoon]

that was the old one

[weary oyster]

and just fucks my normal nkg muscle memory for runs

[copper nacelle]

it's been changed a lot

[cunning lagoon]

this one is rad

[weary oyster]

oh its ngg now?

[cunning lagoon]

it doesn't have a speed cap it has death walls ngg spikes timed mode and one hit mode

it's the actual best

thing ever

[copper nacelle]

no I just play ngg mode because I'm trying to beat ngg

[weary oyster]

eh maybe ill try at some point

[cunning lagoon]

please do

i think you'll like it

i recommend playing both one hit and timed

[weary oyster]

but still it really screws with my normal grimm muscle memory

[cunning lagoon]

yea thats fair

[weary oyster]

like the first time i did a run after playing infi grimm i died to nkg like twice

[cunning lagoon]

also 56 reminder that eldergod hu will only happen if you beat my score

[copper nacelle]

or if ax beats it

[cunning lagoon]

yea

let me rephrase

[copper nacelle]

wait hold the fuck up

[cunning lagoon]

it will only happen if my score is beaten

[copper nacelle]

I can beat

your ngg score

[cunning lagoon]

Can you?

[copper nacelle]

e

I made a practice mode for phase 3 and 4

[cunning lagoon]

good luck overkilling ngg by 340 damage when you can't make it to second phase

[copper nacelle]

it starts you at the pufferfish to p3

so I can get consistent at that

and then I can overkill ngg

easy game

[cunning lagoon]

🤔

i might get a 4k ngg just to fuck with you

[copper nacelle]

stop no do not

have you seen the practice mode

[cunning lagoon]

no

[copper nacelle]

it's great

you start at puffer with 4 damage spikes

and get p2 at 800 damage

[cunning lagoon]

[copper nacelle]

it's nice because you have to practice puffer in order to fight him at all

and 4 damage spikes

[cunning lagoon]

im gonna have to make sure none of my scores are beatable by anyone other than me

[copper nacelle]

can u don't

[leaden hedge]

will you beat ngg score before ngg2 electric boogaloo

[cunning lagoon]

will he beat ngg score at all

stream attempts or something

before i go to Slëëp

@copper nacelle

@copper nacelle

[copper nacelle]

ok

[cunning lagoon]

ok

[hazy sentinel]

@copper nacelle bind super dash to e

[copper nacelle]

no thanks

[cunning lagoon]

ok real talk

are you zote the mighty

[copper nacelle]

no

[cunning lagoon]

not you

idiot

Verulean

[copper nacelle]

you're zote the mighty

[cunning lagoon]

it's gotta be one of us right

that run's too much of a meme

to be some random guy

[hollow pier]

pretty sure it's a runner

[copper nacelle]

only a runner would do that weird charm notch acid skip

I didn't even know that shit existed

[hazy sentinel]

what skip

[cunning lagoon]

although it did take him like 10 tries

[hollow pier]

only a runner would have such a shit king's pass

it actually makes me want to die

[cunning lagoon]

he acid skipped to the fog canyon charm notch

[hazy sentinel]

the one where you dash under the wall or what

[exotic venture]

oh yeah lmao

Sean talked about that

[cunning lagoon]

there's approximately a 0% chance it's not one of us

[exotic venture]

that was Zote the Mighty as speedrunner

it's beyond our realm of thought

[cunning lagoon]

i was invited to go to some random ass spanish speedrunning event that i've never heard of

[hazy sentinel]

real talk is it sandhawk

[cunning lagoon]

[hollow pier]

you should go

[cunning lagoon]

i should not

[hollow pier]

face + voice reveal

[cunning lagoon]

acrid can go in my place

[solemn rivet]

spanish motherfucker, do you habla

[cunning lagoon]

yo hablo, sí

[hollow pier]

wait i don't know what kuro sounds like

[copper nacelle]

did ptkyr talk

[cunning lagoon]

i did hear him say 2 things

[copper nacelle]

did you clip it

[hazy sentinel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJQP7kiw5Fk

[hollow pier]

all you can hear is my fan

[cunning lagoon]

motherfucker muted himself on stream but i'm 200iq so i went to monstah's stream to hear him

[hollow pier]

i didn't mute myself

i just have mic muted on obs

[cunning lagoon]

yes that is exactly what i said

[hollow pier]

i also further lowered the quality so it might be like 10fps now

[cunning lagoon]

just make it 100p

but please make it not be a slideshow

[hollow pier]

framerate > seeing anything

[hazy sentinel]

make it a spreadsheet

[copper nacelle]

did you say someone will need dive ptkyr

[cunning lagoon]

when you got to the dnail sequence i got to see a total of like 10 frames

[leaden hedge]

speaking is overrated

[cunning lagoon]

until you fell

[hollow pier]

i do not recall saying that

[hazy sentinel]

did you say someone will need to die

[copper nacelle]

did you say myla will need to die

[hollow pier]

probably not no

but i did kill myla

[copper nacelle]

wheremst did you talk

[cunning lagoon]

it's near the beghinning

[hollow pier]

like never

[hazy sentinel]

race channel 3

[cunning lagoon]

ngg attemps waiting room ResidentSleeper

[copper nacelle]

oh right

[native wing]

veru die🤢

[cunning lagoon]

^^ this

[hollow pier]

^_^

[cunning lagoon]

.<

[hazy sentinel]

🤔

[hollow pier]

EDIT

[exotic venture]

this man 400IQ

[native wing]

that fuckin edit

👌

[cunning lagoon]

@copper nacelle

[copper nacelle]

no

[cunning lagoon]

the wr holder is using it

it must be good

[hazy sentinel]

thanks δ1κуr05H, very cool

[hazy sentinel]

gathering sans

[floral furnace]

Youre about to have a bad day kiddo 😎

[cunning lagoon]

relevant

i made this :)

[buoyant obsidian]

wait a second

didn't I make that

[cunning lagoon]

yes thats the point

[hollow pier]

did you 753

[cunning lagoon]

also this

it's one of my favourite things ever

[hollow pier]

for 12 minutes

[floral furnace]

wow stealing content dlk ban when

[buoyant obsidian]

stealing art

[cunning lagoon]

Yo so how do you pronounce 753
Seven five three
Seven fifty three
Seven hundred and fifty three
Other (tell me in the comments section down below)

[buoyant obsidian]

Seven Five Three

formerly Seven Fifty Three

[hollow pier]

i say 753 idk about you

[floral furnace]

I thought it was DCCLIII

[cunning lagoon]

I see

So from now on 56 is five six

[copper nacelle]

no it's LVI

[floral furnace]

Hmm yes 🤔

[buoyant obsidian]

I've never called fifty six anything but fifty six

just like C418 is C4 eighteen

[cunning lagoon]

Well ofbwe are follsowong the trend you are V VI

But

[floral furnace]

ofbwe

also ngl sometimes light themes in ide are, better

[cunning lagoon]

Do you sleep on your back or your si de
If you say on your belly you are a monster and deserve death

[buoyant obsidian]

side

[compact sedge]

how do people sleep on their bellies

[floral furnace]

how the fuck do you sleep sideway

[compact sedge]

sounds uncomfortable af

[floral furnace]

i do, like everytime

[cunning lagoon]

Idk side is comfy

[copper nacelle]

side is god

[cunning lagoon]

Taco please

Die

[rain cedar]

Sleeping on my stomach makes my back hurt

[compact sedge]

I sleep on my sides but sometimes I fall asleep on my sides and wake up on my back

[hollow pier]

stomach is actually objectively unhealthy

[cunning lagoon]

Also that

[floral furnace]

or maybe its also cuz im fat so i have this giant buffer inbetween the bed and myself

either way belly is like the best way to sleep

ngl

[rain cedar]

Pete

Why is it unhealthy?

[floral furnace]

lying on your back is like death

[hollow pier]

it like destroys your spine

[rain cedar]

Ah yeah

[cunning lagoon]

Belly is not good

[rain cedar]

That makes sense

Because it makes my back hurt

[hollow pier]

yes

so don't

[floral furnace]

i mean, if you dont have a spine to begin with thats not a problem right

[rain cedar]

Yeah I don't

[hollow pier]

and your neck

because you have to like twist it to breathe

unless you faceplant the entire night

[floral furnace]

but yeah belly sleeping has the downside of sometimes having to hear your heartbeat the entire night

[cunning lagoon]

Yes in sucre that's the worst thing about it

Hearing my heartbeat

[floral furnace]

but in the end the important thing is you dont sleep like grimm

[cunning lagoon]

Why do bats hang upside down anyway

Are they stupid

[rain cedar]

Unlike birds, bats cannot launch their bodies into the air from the ground, because their wings don't produce enough lift to take off like a helicopter.

If sleeping bats need to escape quickly, hanging upside-down means they are already in the perfect position to spread their wings and fly away.

[cunning lagoon]

Lmao dumbass bat😛

[rain cedar]

I think this site is stupid

Birds don't take off like helicopters

Imagine a bird just spinning its wings like rotors

[young walrus]

done

[weak lodge]

Seanpr real lore hours

How was the iconoclasts speedrun

[rain cedar]

Trash

5 seconds faster to beat risky but still be trash

[hollow pier]

risky trasher

[rain cedar]

Yeah I haven't watched Risky's run closely

But he fucked something up so hard late game

He has to have

He has like 10s on me in blockrock

And like 40 from white skip

I save 20 from thetim2 jump

And yet we're 5 seconds apart

[hollow pier]

he's like 20s ahead at impact

[rain cedar]

So he just has an absolute garbage tier final boss

Nice

[hollow pier]

wait when is impact

when you enter the dream?

[rain cedar]

I split when I die to elro

[hollow pier]

he dies at 27:19

so like 10s i guess

[cunning lagoon]

Just don't die to elro ez timesave

[rain cedar]

That's not too bad

I had really good rng on the bird

I guess except for the one stomp right at the end

Also you have to die to elro

To get out of airswim

[hollow pier]

ah yes he exclaims "this is terrible rng"

[cunning lagoon]

Ah ofc, the airswim

How could i forget

[rain cedar]

Wow do you not even watch my streams?

You're missing out on a lot of lore

Maybe you can get acrid to explain it to you

[cunning lagoon]

I have to do my casual playthroigh firs

Don't wanna get spoiled on that lore

[hollow pier]

are the two white skip frames when you're at peak of jump and about to land

[rain cedar]

Timing off of robin isn't going to be consistent at all

[hollow pier]

o

[rain cedar]

You want to use mina as the tell

[copper nacelle]

wokest

[flat forum]

hey 56

implemented the spells yet?

[copper nacelle]

not yet

[flat forum]

tsk tsk tsk

[copper nacelle]

u

[copper nacelle]

@floral furnace u

u

[floral furnace]

u

[copper nacelle]

u

[floral furnace]

u

[copper nacelle]

u

[floral furnace]

oh shit vysuals is running on AGDQ?

[copper nacelle]

ee

yeah

he's doing TE NMG

[floral furnace]

have no idea what TE means

[copper nacelle]

true ending

[floral furnace]

oh shit

👀

y e s y e s y e s

[vapid cape]

God damn, good work 56

[copper nacelle]

i got 2859 earlier

so close but so far

also thanks

[compact sedge]

oh man a true ending NMG run is gonna be a little long right?

I hope so

[copper nacelle]

vys has wr with 1h 11m

[compact sedge]

also waitasecond isn't the true ending now godmaster ending?

[copper nacelle]

i guess

TE is still the normal radiance ending

[floral furnace]

1:30:00 is the expected time according to the site

[copper nacelle]

understandable

[floral furnace]

i consider godmaster the TrTruer Ending

therefore TTE

[rain cedar]

TrTruer

[flat forum]

Sean I'm sorry for that ping forgive me

[copper nacelle]

what

[flat forum]

what

[floral furnace]

what

[copper nacelle]

play ngg

ttacco play ngg

[floral furnace]

sure while i have 2 projects thats due for tomorrow why not

maybe another time when im not dying from school stuff

[compact sedge]

also sorry @flat forum for not being asleep rn had to do my bedtime ritual (brushing teeth, shaving, combing my winghairs so they burn brighter) But now I shall go.

[flat forum]

combing my winghairs

Hehehe

okay

Sleep well

[compact sedge]

thank

[flat forum]

may thou be blessed with Radiant Dreams

[copper nacelle]

ee

aa play ngg

[viscid perch]

so i just glitched the baldur in the mound with randomizer

i got real close and tried to shadecloak through, and it just stopped trying to curl up

[copper nacelle]

he's supposed to do that

[viscid perch]

o

well i can get about anywehre i want now cause he blocked claw

i got shade at spirit, and claw at baldur

10/10 stupid

i only have one fear

if something is behind grubs

[copper nacelle]

important stuff can only be at grubsong

[viscid perch]

that's still 10 grubs

like oof

[flat forum]

56 Thanos Knight mod wen

[copper nacelle]

i can't draw

[viscid perch]

oh cool. Sly has decending dark. which will be my first stomp

[flat forum]

replace all the Knight's sprites with a badly cropped version of that one image

[viscid perch]

I want to replace all the knight's sprites with zote

make him do one damage on old nail

and you have to get nail upgrades to survive

[copper nacelle]

wtf

[viscid perch]

but the first one will be for stupid expensive money cause you're going from wood to an actual nail

[copper nacelle]

claw and ddark and vs early

god seed

[viscid perch]

I don't have vs

i have both cloaks

[copper nacelle]

that's even better

[viscid perch]

and ddark will only give me stomp

[copper nacelle]

still good

what does low% need

claw and vs?

[viscid perch]

claw, heart or tear, and dash

no uh

[copper nacelle]

no

[viscid perch]

vs

[copper nacelle]

highly wrong

[flat forum]

vs?

[copper nacelle]

1%: Vengeful Spirit
2%: Mantis Claw
1%: Dream Nail
2%: Crystal Heart

no dash

[viscid perch]

you need vs to get to greenpath, heart or tear to get to one of the areas, nail

yeah. you do need claw. and i guess no dash

everything easier with dash

but i did find a funny glitch with crystal heart

when you transition screens with a superdash, you can pull out the map. so you're just standing there with the map out while dashing

it funny as hell

anyways, i need to go make 63 more geo to get stompy

so i'll be back

atleast its not a seed that immediately shoves infected crossroads at me

actually wait

how do you get into the mines without stomp

[copper nacelle]

toll

rando makes it so you don't need lantern

[viscid perch]

ah

i'm going ahead and checking heart then cause hell if i know if its important or if i'll even remember later

[burnt mica]

I got into the mines long before I ever had stomp

[viscid perch]

and its just glowing womb

god damnit

[urban olive]

wow

whoever did the newer installer version

fucking fantastic

10/10

deserves millions

[copper nacelle]

@solemn rivet

[urban olive]

@solemn rivet ur a blessing

[wide lantern]

what? what Installer?

[copper nacelle]

first pin in #archived-modding-help

[urban olive]

fighting gruzz mother on randomizer

was a mistake

holy fuck

also if it was gruz mother and not a random enemy

does that mean my randomizer

isnt replacinb bosses

*replacing

[copper nacelle]

no that's intended iirc

also if you killed gruz and died to the enemies after it still counts

[urban olive]

ah great

that was hilarious

uh so idk how to screenshot on windows but

i walked into a random room

to grab a grub

the upper right of ForgC to be exact

and uh

theres loike

a ton of red particles

coming from the right side