#archived-modding-development

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compact sedge
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time to pick it up in a sale in 12 years

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/s

solemn rivet
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not /s

compact sedge
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I mean that's totally what I do

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it's also how I have 500 games

solemn rivet
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same

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but I got it on release

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cause it's been sitting on my wishlist for ages

rain cedar
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Negative review

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"this game is pretty good"

compact sedge
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hey maybe they are a super metroid person like me

rain cedar
solemn rivet
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this makes no sense

compact sedge
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#team-super-metroid

solemn rivet
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"if you like games that are like what this game promises to be like, you're gonna love this game"

compact sedge
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look there can only be one winner in the console war and I'm supporting the... wait nvm both games are on super nintendo

rain cedar
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To be fair iconoclasts has the metroidvania tag

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For whatever reason

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So you can't really trust tags

solemn rivet
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well

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it has some upgrade-based exploration sean

compact sedge
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I'm in my steam queue and I got recommended this game with 16 reviews

solemn rivet
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maybe that's why

rain cedar
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It's linear af there's just a few unimportant side things you have to backtrack for

compact sedge
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but it's only 49 cents

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so idk

solemn rivet
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yeah

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it's not a metroidvania, but I can see people thinking it's metroidvania-esque

compact sedge
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https://store.steampowered.com/app/552390/

Anyone ever hear of this? It's ugly and slow and boring af looking but it's apparently positive.

The main hero of the game is a druid who is looking for a teacher to gain wisdom, but his way lays through the magic forest that contains a lot of obstacles and riddles.You will have to collect magic runes that give you different abilities, solve puzzles and help forest dwell...

Price

$0.49

▶ Play video
solemn rivet
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what really bothered me the most was the linearity - how the game forces you to move forward

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I wasn't expecting that

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I saw that, AA

compact sedge
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I just watched the trailer

solemn rivet
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not touching that

compact sedge
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I forgot whenever I look at the queue I get games with like 10 reviews because I've basically cleared out all the good games

solemn rivet
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play valdis story

rain cedar
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I didn't like valdis story

solemn rivet
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ok

rain cedar
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Only played an hour

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I remember the movement feeling really crap

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Not much else

solemn rivet
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I like the movement

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what I don't like is how short the game feels

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even if you 100% it

rain cedar
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Idk I can't really have a good discussion on this since it's been 2 years

solemn rivet
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nah, it's fine

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u play Environmental Station Alpha yet, AA?

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pretty good metroid-like

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best part is that it sorta suggests that you should sequence-break

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and the game gets so much better if you do so

flat forum
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I did a sleep

compact sedge
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tbh no I don't own it

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hey papers!

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good morning

solemn rivet
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sup Papers!

flat forum
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good morning

solemn rivet
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it's midnight here

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hard to say morning

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but sure

flat forum
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...

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sleep, Gradow

compact sedge
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what confuses me is 56 lies in bed at 10pm because his body craves sleep but he stays up on discord until like 4am

flat forum
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56, why

compact sedge
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56

copper nacelle
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no i take a nap when i get home from school

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when i don't sleep

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simple

flat forum
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56 WHY

compact sedge
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if you sleep for less than 30 minutes it does not benefit you

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you need long periods of sleep

floral furnace
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sleeping at all has no benefits

compact sedge
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setting alarms every 5 minutes is the fastest way to send yourself into a sleep deprived depression

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and if you were depressed before it makes it worse

copper nacelle
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u

flat forum
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no, 56

compact sedge
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me?

copper nacelle
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u

flat forum
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it's you this time

compact sedge
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I've been doin great

copper nacelle
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re

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i slept 2 hours

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good enough™

flat forum
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56 no

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this is exactly the problem Angle's talking about

copper nacelle
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eeeeeeeee

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sleep is for the weak

flat forum
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you are the weak without sleep

copper nacelle
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u

flat forum
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I am the weak without sleep as well

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sleep deprived = weak

solemn rivet
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56 = weak

copper nacelle
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u

solemn rivet
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I sleep 6-8 hours every day bois

copper nacelle
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wtf

solemn rivet
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no need to worry about me

compact sedge
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fair but your hours are odd

solemn rivet
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not really

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I sleep around 1~2pm

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and wake around 9~10am

flat forum
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Gradow good

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I mean, Angle

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there's people in night shifts

solemn rivet
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since I'm a phd student, my time is very flexible, and I only have classes in the afternoon, so...

flat forum
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that sleep even weirder

compact sedge
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I have an 8 am class

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by choice

solemn rivet
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but, yeah, I've been trying to get up earlier than that

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to do some useful stuff

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like jogging and stuff

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need to get that stress off my body

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it's literally killing me

flat forum
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Angle

compact sedge
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I could not work the night shift. it would make me sad

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I need the sunlight to bring me joy during work

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I guess a really bright LED could do the trick

flat forum
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classes start at 7:30 and school's at the city centre, meaning most people need to travel around an hour or so to get there

compact sedge
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yeah that's fair. but in college in the US anyway people take classes as late as they possibly can

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and I took a morning class.

flat forum
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Morning class good

compact sedge
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papers has spoken, gradow.

solemn rivet
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I'm going to sleep in like

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40 minutes

copper nacelle
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never*

flat forum
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I think I am incapable of having any class that's not in the early morning

solemn rivet
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and wanna be up by 8 tomorrow

flat forum
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7-ish hours of sleep?

solemn rivet
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tbh I hate waking up earlier than 9

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yeah, papers

flat forum
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Well

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reasonable

solemn rivet
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better than 2~3 hours per day

flat forum
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Better than 56's sleep schedule

copper nacelle
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u

flat forum
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I also sleep around that much

copper nacelle
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play ngg

flat forum
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except I get up at 5:45

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No NGG

copper nacelle
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ree

flat forum
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haven't played HK in quite a while actually

solemn rivet
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y'all need to fix your sleeping schedules

flat forum
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No I do not

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I'd be late for school

copper nacelle
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my sleep schedule is perfect

solemn rivet
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and when do you go to sleep?

flat forum
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9:40-10:20

solemn rivet
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ok

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sounds good

copper nacelle
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wtf

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solemn rivet
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but 56 sleeps like 5-6 hours

flat forum
solemn rivet
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5-6=-1

copper nacelle
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recently it's been 1-3

solemn rivet
copper nacelle
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tbh

flat forum
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56

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sleep at least 56 hours a day

copper nacelle
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i would sleep more but also free time

flat forum
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56

solemn rivet
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sleep is also free time

copper nacelle
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sleep is wasted time

flat forum
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Biologocal needs > Free time

copper nacelle
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false

solemn rivet
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ur wasted time

copper nacelle
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also biological

flat forum
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any time not spent sleeping is wasted time

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56 go sleep now

copper nacelle
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delet this

flat forum
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right now

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fall asleep on the spot

copper nacelle
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no

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i have homework

solemn rivet
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do it or no balls

copper nacelle
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think

flat forum
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56

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56 finds sleep more difficult than NGG

copper nacelle
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a good sleep schedule while maintaining adequate free time is harder than ngg

flat forum
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56, sleep harder than NGG replacing all enemies in Panth5 and then fighting alongside Absrad

compact sedge
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sleep makes your body and mind feel less miserable when you're awake and also gives you blessed dreams if you're lucky

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or for me always but for you maybe not so

copper nacelle
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i don't get any dreams that i remember

solemn rivet
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he really is radiance eh

flat forum
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oh, it may also give you dreams of puking your melted rotten insides out

compact sedge
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because you don't sleep enough

copper nacelle
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e

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even when i sleep 12 hours i don't dream

flat forum
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sleep more often

solemn rivet
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56 that's because you're super tired

copper nacelle
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even during the summer tho

solemn rivet
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your body takes every chance it gets to recover

copper nacelle
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when i actually slept

compact sedge
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honestly you sleep 12 hours you still have eyes so blue they look like you used dye.

solemn rivet
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so you don't get to dream

compact sedge
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and going outside makes your head hurt

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and you feel like you wanna die

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and all the other bad things that happen when you don't sleep

solemn rivet
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the sleep police is on bois

flat forum
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is this 2 adults and a 16 year old in a modding channel scolding a kid for not sleeping for 30 minutes straight

vagrant leaf
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dream no more

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haha

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get it

copper nacelle
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banan

vagrant leaf
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cause

copper nacelle
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pet cat

vagrant leaf
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i have done this

copper nacelle
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also play ngg

vagrant leaf
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no

copper nacelle
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why

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it's fun

vagrant leaf
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i just like

copper nacelle
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and the first phase isn't rng

solemn rivet
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just pet cat then

vagrant leaf
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don't car eenough

solemn rivet
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eenough

vagrant leaf
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ok

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cat has been pet

copper nacelle
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send cat pic thank

solemn rivet
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pet²

vagrant leaf
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effort

solemn rivet
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pet³

compact sedge
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hey 56, apparently sleeping a good amount regularly gives you more alertness. giving you an OBJECTIVE advantage in NGG

copper nacelle
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shut

vagrant leaf
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honestly

solemn rivet
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did you kno

vagrant leaf
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my bird is superior to my cat

solemn rivet
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NGG sleeps AT LEAST 8 hours per day?

copper nacelle
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abusing my sleep schedule gives me better grades

vagrant leaf
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did you kno

flat forum
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no

vagrant leaf
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PV buff sleeps an average of 9 hours a week

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he takes after 56

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his dad

compact sedge
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NGG sleeps 24 hours a day. you can watch it if you go in the tent.

copper nacelle
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what's the nkg defeated var/vars

vagrant leaf
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don't you want to be like ngg 56

flat forum
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NGG SLEEP 25 HOURS A DAY

solemn rivet
copper nacelle
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no i need to ascend past ngg

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ez

vagrant leaf
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then you have to sleep at least 56 hours a day

flat forum
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56 I want a fight against both THK and PV at the same time

solemn rivet
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or 56 days per hour

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bigthink

flat forum
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I want a harder PV

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Pure God

copper nacelle
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i want my math test results

vagrant leaf
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PV attack > teleport away > NKG attack > teleport away > repeat when

copper nacelle
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that'd be neat honestly

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@solemn rivet when you're finding primes do you only need to check divisibility of the numbers under the sqrt of the num

solemn rivet
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absrad appears -> fucks everything up -> u ded -> ur mum ded -> ur cat ded -> ded

compact sedge
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yes

copper nacelle
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why

compact sedge
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including the sqrt

copper nacelle
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i read it somewhere but i don't get it

solemn rivet
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uhhh

vagrant leaf
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ur gay > UR GAY > u r g a y > ur gay > ur gay

compact sedge
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because factors above that will require multiplying by factors below that

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so

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for example

solemn rivet
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basically, that

compact sedge
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take 12

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the sqrt of 12 is between 3 and 4

solemn rivet
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sqrt is like the middle point of divisors of a number

copper nacelle
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but why sqrt(x) and not 1/2 x

compact sedge
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actually

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no

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take 25

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that's a square number

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so its square root is 5

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so lets find its factors

solemn rivet
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take 12, for instance, and list its divisors

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1,2,3,4,6,12

compact sedge
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actually yeah do what gradow said

flat forum
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what is going on

compact sedge
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1 - 12
2 - 6
3 - 4

solemn rivet
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sqrt(9)<sqrt(12)<sqrt(16)

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so everything below 4 already appears when you factor 12

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take for instance 6. Well, 12=6x2, and 2<sqrt(12) and 2|12

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that's the idea - for every factor > sqrt(12) there's a factor <sqrt(12)

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and since it's easier to check smaller numbers for primallity, we usually check below <sqrt(12)

flat forum
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sqrt...

solemn rivet
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square root

flat forum
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square root?

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ok

copper nacelle
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ohh

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i c

compact sedge
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and ofc for square numbers, the factor that is = its square root when multiplied by itself gives you the number

solemn rivet
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yup

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that's the whole intuition behind geometric mean btw

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the factors of 12 are pairs of integers n,m such that the geometric mean of n and m is 12

copper nacelle
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i get why it works but like how do you know that it's true

solemn rivet
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you need to prove it

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but it's not hard

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the idea is just what we did

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but for an arbitrary integer n

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I don't even think you need induction to prove that

copper nacelle
solemn rivet
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yup

copper nacelle
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oh fuck it makes sense now

compact sedge
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don't geometric means favor lower numbers?

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what's the advantage to them?

copper nacelle
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thanks gradow

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and aa

solemn rivet
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np!

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geometric means is just a fancy way of finding factors, AA

compact sedge
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ok

copper nacelle
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also aa 1.2.2.1 ngg actually seems easier

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like

compact sedge
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so you aren't using them for statistics then?

copper nacelle
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a good bit

solemn rivet
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GeoMean(n,m)=sqrt(n*m)

compact sedge
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thanks for confirming what DL suggested 56

copper nacelle
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because pufferfish no longer exists

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i can just

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🅱esending 🅱ark

compact sedge
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you can also pogo puffer

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much easier

copper nacelle
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you can get hit with that

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spikes can hit you even when you're pogoing

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it happened to me when i tried it

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also is your ngg supposed to not give full soul cause the 1.2.2.1 one does

compact sedge
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uh it should

copper nacelle
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reserve doesn't get full

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only the main

compact sedge
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oh well, too bad

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deal with it

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it's NGG

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not baby's first boss

copper nacelle
compact sedge
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but no I get that it's good for finding factors but the term "mean" indicates a use for statistics.

solemn rivet
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well

copper nacelle
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wtf are 1.2.2.1 spikes smaller

compact sedge
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or larger

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their size depends on if there's fire on the screen when they spawn

copper nacelle
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tf

compact sedge
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I'm serious

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it's part of some of the trashest code ever

solemn rivet
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the idea of the average/arithmetic mean is to take n "different sized pieces" and think of "what size would each of the n pieces need to be if they were all the same size, but still preserving the total size?"

compact sedge
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and by trash I mean it's not that it's bad or poorly written code it's that it's incredibly inefficient

copper nacelle
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y tho

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shouldn't it be once/anim

compact sedge
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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I rewrote it to run 1000 times less often and got rid of the string compare and nothing broke

solemn rivet
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the geometric mean is similar - suppose you take n "different sizes" and you stretch a rubber band increasingly by each of these (like, for instance, if you had (2,3) you would first stretch the rubber band so it's double the original size, and then, on top of that, stretch it so it's triple the double of the original size). The geometric mean is simply the answer to "what if I wanted to do the same stretching n times, instead of a different stretch each time, and still obtain the same sized rubber rand. What would be that "size" that I need to stretch each time?"

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that's why it's the same as finding factors

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if you stretch a rubber band by 2 and then by 6, it's the same as stretching it by sqrt(12) twice

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if you stretch it by 2, 3 then 5, it's the same as stretching it by (30)^(1/3) thrice

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and etc.

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notice that the "classical" average doesn't work here

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stretching by 2 and then by 6 isn't the same as stretching by 4 twice

flat forum
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Ping me pls I wanna read that later

copper nacelle
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@flat forum

solemn rivet
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@flat forum

copper nacelle
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is using the geo hp counter from the hk info program cheating

solemn rivet
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maybe kinda

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but who cares

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I'm not telling

copper nacelle
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woke

flat forum
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ok gonna go now

solemn rivet
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maybe they removed it?

copper nacelle
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hhhhhh

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did hitinstance exist in 1.2.21

solemn rivet
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no

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LB boi

copper nacelle
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eeeee

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i'll just add it to ngg

rain cedar
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Geo thing got removed a long time ago

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Complain to devil if you really want it back

solemn rivet
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make a deal with the devil if you want it back

copper nacelle
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woke

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good enough

compact sedge
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wtf is this exe program u guys are making

copper nacelle
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making GWchadMEGATHINK

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there's an info program made by devil on the srcom site

compact sedge
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ohh

copper nacelle
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lets you infisoul, infihp, debug info

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it's neat

solemn rivet
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it's been there since day0 basically

compact sedge
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hmm

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it's weird to see so many tools made by literally just reading segments of ram

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that seems like such bad design.

rain cedar
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You got a better idea?

compact sedge
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dlsym

copper nacelle
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whatmst

rain cedar
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Linux thing apparently

solemn rivet
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that street fighter 2 hindu fighter

compact sedge
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monomod but it works for every compiled program ever @copper nacelle

copper nacelle
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wokest

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wtf

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did they just delete ddark's iframes in lb

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i needed like

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3

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to get through a full ngg pufferfish

rain cedar
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I thought it was the same iframes unless you attack

copper nacelle
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wtf

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oh i also used 3 on lb

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i just had to dodge one attack after every ddark on lb

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i can just

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stand still

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on 1.2.2.1

urban olive
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WILLIAM AND ARI ARE TALKING ABOUT BONFIRE

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I REPEAT WILLIAM PLAYED BONFIRE

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ari said it looked cool

copper nacelle
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neat

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@solemn rivet

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@compact sedge i think the spikes on 1.2.2.1 ngg are weird

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i get hit like thrice as often as lb

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maybe i'm just not used to it idk

solemn rivet
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Booooo bonfire is boring

urban olive
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oof

weary oyster
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they also confirmed crystal hunter change is intentional

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which is a big think

copper nacelle
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w h y

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why can i dodge gm ngg but not 1.2.2.1 ngg

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am i ok

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back to gm i go

compact sedge
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ngg 1.2.2.1 spikes CHANGE size

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well specifically they change z position

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but I think their hitbox is the same????

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but they will either look too small or look too big

copper nacelle
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regardless your spikes feel like 2x more reliable

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also the background removal is god

compact sedge
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honestly I've never played any 1.2.2.1 mods. I've just read NGG's code

copper nacelle
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can't you just copy the vector and then set it again

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readonly GWchadMEGATHINK

compact sedge
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basically KDT's complaint was that he thought the fire and floor were on the same plane: z =0. in reality the floor is at z = -0.1 so all you have to do is always set the spikes to somewhere between 0 and -0.1 and it fixes everything

copper nacelle
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wow nice

compact sedge
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I chose -0.0001 because it's close to their original value of 0

copper nacelle
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also how do i make my ngg die

compact sedge
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uncomment 155-176

copper nacelle
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thank

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in the ngg file?

compact sedge
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yes

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infinite_NGG

copper nacelle
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ty

compact sedge
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optionally you can also uncomment the coroutine to kill the player if you wanna die instead of going out back to the tent

copper nacelle
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thank 2

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@compact sedge font size as auto or custom?

compact sedge
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auto

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ascii, and 2048x2048

copper nacelle
compact sedge
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uh looks good

copper nacelle
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this generates at the speed of -10

compact sedge
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idk why it's so slow

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it literally just needs to stick the letters on a rectangle

copper nacelle
urban olive
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TC also mentioned exaltation mod

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and how glorification was originally intended to be reversible

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or at least not permanent

fair rampart
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ooo link

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I wanna see them talk about my BABY

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@urban olive any idea when it was mentioned in the vod?

urban olive
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Uh I think it was under an hour before it ended

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Sorry that that isn’t that helpful

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They don’t talk about it for much longer than 15s

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But it seems like they appreciate it

fair rampart
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still!

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I figured it probably wouldn't get much recognition at all so it's still pretty cool

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do you know what they were doing at that point? like, what enemies they were fighting?

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seems like it wasn't mentioned in chat, so I'm kinda having to skim

civic hare
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they were fighting broken vessel and i asked about why they cut glorification

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the vod for the stream they just did seems to still be processing though

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the other most recent one is from a day ago

fair rampart
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was it in that one, or the one a few days ago?

civic hare
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the one today

fair rampart
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alrighto, thanks

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I'll wait for it to process

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lol I probably sound super desperate for attention

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this is just... uh, kinda cool

civic hare
fair rampart
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lovely

civic hare
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about 1h 47m 40s

fair rampart
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thanks!!

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not a lot of mention, but it still feels pretty cool that they know about it

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especially since it's far from lightbringer tier

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tfw want to code but cold and on laptop

compact sedge
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do testing instead

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running HK should heat it up

fair rampart
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I mean I'm cold

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my laptop can run it and I can feasibly port over the code and set up a workspace but I'm lazy

urban olive
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Xhuis did you make exaltation? It looks amazing and I’m looking forward to trying it

floral furnace
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oh hey its X🅱uis

cunning lagoon
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Oh hey its TTa🅱🅱o

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🅱🅱a🅱🅱o

floral furnace
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🤔

cunning lagoon
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🅱🅱🅱🅱🅱🅱

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^^ this is sooooo u irl

floral furnace
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Hmm interesting

cunning lagoon
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😂

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do you hate me

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bc if so ill fuckin break ur spine

fair rampart
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@urban olive I did make exaltation

floral furnace
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No worries i hate myself as much as you hate me

cunning lagoon
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why would i hate you

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you are the most lovable person on planet earth

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second most lovable person actually

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u cant win against papers

floral furnace
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nobody can win against 🅱apers 😤

cunning lagoon
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nobody can win against 🅱🅱🅱🅱🅱🅱 😩

cunning lagoon
#

why is mys white

flat forum
#

huh?

cunning lagoon
#

he doesn't have roles now

flat forum
#

why?

cunning lagoon
#

fuck if i know

floral furnace
#

yeah

exotic venture
#

hopefully an announcement will be placed shortly with how and why

#

the tl;dr is that I've been demoted zote

cunning lagoon
floral furnace
#

aww

exotic venture
#

reason? unprofessionalism on multiple instances

cunning lagoon
exotic venture
#

but hey now there are no strings on me

floral furnace
#

tbf youre taking this well so props to you

exotic venture
#

oh I just look the part

#

inside I'm dying zote

cunning lagoon
#

you will always be a mod in our hearts zote

vapid cape
#

You're cool in my book

exotic venture
#

that's good enough tbh

#

now i can once again shitpost at my heart's content

flat forum
#

when and how has Mys been unprofessional?!

exotic venture
#

several occasions; starting arguments in public, holding two man discussions, insulting people in public, the list goes on

floral furnace
#

I mean isnt it obvious he funds international paramilitary companies all over the world to destabilize 3rd world countries

#

oh that ok

#

sorry

rain cedar
#

The real tragedy here is he doesn't seem to have the hidden ex-mod role

#

So he can't see modding-staff anymore

exotic venture
#

this is true, must be because i didn't step down of own volition

leaden hedge
#

Insult people in private next time

warped sinew
#

I send kdt hate mail every day

exotic venture
#

nice

leaden hedge
#

Is it hate mail if I enjoy hate mail?

warped sinew
#

Haha

exotic venture
#

then it's masochism mail

floral furnace
#

was gonna say getting hate mail everyday actually sounds rad

#

at least you have SOMETHING to look forward to everyday

exotic venture
#

that's definitely true

leaden hedge
#

Going to sleep is something you can do everyday

#

I try to do as soon as I wakeup

floral furnace
#

Self induced coma imo

exotic venture
#

but yeah there should be an official statement about it all soon

cunning lagoon
#

@ admins can we get a revert on the demot above??

floral furnace
#

TBF youre all admins in my heart hklove

#

except DLK

cunning lagoon
#

Wow

floral furnace
#

hollowdab /s

cunning lagoon
#

.<

#

why not me ._.

floral furnace
#

Duhh cuz youre an adminadmin to me (2 admins which is greater than 1 admin)

cunning lagoon
#

i see xD

floral furnace
#

Xd

#

HAHAHA YES FUCKING FINALLY AND IT ONLY TOOK ME LIKE

7 hours i think? (and it doesnt even hit an enemy's hitbox)

steep sail
#

Just... why?

cunning lagoon
#

HAHAHA YES FUCKING FINALLY AND IT ONLY TOOK ME LIKE

7 hours i think? (and it doesnt even hit an enemy's hitbox)

floral furnace
#

thats not even 2 sentences long you dungo

cunning lagoon
floral furnace
#

kuro pls

cunning lagoon
floral furnace
#

Huh

#

fair enough

cunning lagoon
#

@compact sedge hey you forgot to update my 6 min timed score
also the pillar bug where they instantly hit you is still a thing sadgrub

#

but its not too bad bc it only seems to happen when it's the first time he uses it

#

per fight

#

if that makes sense

copper nacelle
#

wtf mys died

floral furnace
#

yes

cunning lagoon
#

he seems alive to me

floral furnace
#

like, 4 hours ago i think

exotic venture
#

i can still hear him sometimes

copper nacelle
#

same

exotic venture
#

maybe i should ask for that speedrunner role to still chat with the lads over there...

#

but that means actual running h

cunning lagoon
#

just submit a quick pop run

exotic venture
#

that works

floral furnace
#

were gonna need a ouija board to communicate with mys from now on, do they sell those in binary format

cunning lagoon
#

alternatively i can just send you literally everything they say there and speak for you

exotic venture
#

i think you'd rather need an exorcist

#

i mean he's as pale as a ghost

#

lmao nah that's a bit too much

#

i appreciate the offer tho

cunning lagoon
#

just do ?rank speedrunner lol

exotic venture
#

?rank Speedrunner

autumn shardBOT
#

dynoError That rank doesn't exist.

exotic venture
#

you lied to me

cunning lagoon
#

wow scammed by dyno

floral furnace
#

nice

copper nacelle
#

me irl

rain cedar
#

Mystery you can get the racer role for free at least if you want it

#

Since you've tried a couple of those maybe you want to try more idk

exotic venture
#

sure why not

#

?rank racer

autumn shardBOT
#

@exotic venture, you joined Racer.

exotic venture
#

still unsure if i wanted to join the after dark race

cunning lagoon
#

wait wtf

#

ok i cant screencap apparently

#

there's a "It’s sad to see him go
he will always be number 1" below that

floral furnace
#

Pretty Mys destroyed "that guy that cant be named" 2 times before

rain cedar
#

I mean mystery is the only mod I ever had any interaction with so I liked him best too

cunning lagoon
#

yo so how tf did i get a walljump here

rain cedar
#

Other than the very occasional message in here from hal

cunning lagoon
floral furnace
#

do mods other than hal and mys even lurk this channel

cunning lagoon
#

lmao

floral furnace
#

i mean other than admins

#

smh

thorn comet
#

yes

#

oh wait

#

other than admins

rain cedar
#

Imagine not knowing about wallcling storage

cunning lagoon
#

yea idk about any of that

rain cedar
#

@ Ax2u#1284

cunning lagoon
#

im not an unethical runner

exotic venture
#

actually now that i'm no longer watching every channel like a hawk you're gonna have to rally the others to grow a bunch of extra eyes grubfather

rain cedar
exotic venture
#

either that, or a new mod

cunning lagoon
#

i mean what

exotic venture
#

lmao

#

i vote graig for mod tbh

floral furnace
#

rename lore to speculation tbh

cunning lagoon
#

rename modding to meme2

floral furnace
#

except its actually good

exotic venture
#

mfw i couldn't even rename channels as mod

hazy sentinel
#

mfw greenpr

exotic venture
#

greenpr is the new meta

cunning lagoon
#

you are approximately a thousand years late to that

#

mfw whitestery

exotic venture
#

that sounds racist

cunning lagoon
#

but it's not so we good

hazy sentinel
#

mfw 1:05Kurosh

cunning lagoon
#

at least i didnt die while farming maskflies

exotic venture
#

oof

hazy sentinel
#

tbh if hoob works low% nsoob wr is going to be like 1.5 hours

cunning lagoon
#

or is it a FeelsGoodMan

#

GWmythiFeelsBadMan imo

weary stream
#

ey guys i just woke up

#

@floral furnace can you make a gif of the gun shooting? I wanna help a bit with it as its quite interesting

floral furnace
#

uhh ok

#

hold on

cunning lagoon
#

hey 56 your script doesnt work on the task manager

#

right click is right click and left click does nothing

#

@copper nacelle

weary stream
#

anyone knows if its possible to use the hollow knight assembly inside unity as a reference?

leaden hedge
#

Probably

#

Although there might be name conflicts

weary stream
#

with what?

floral furnace
#

No collision yet and yes i just placed the shoot function in an attackslashhook so its technically doing the slash attack without the... slash

leaden hedge
#

Well unity already imports assembly-csharp.dll to all projects and that might have stuff in there intenseface

rain cedar
#

Why do half the bullets start so far back?

#

They're gonna get eaten by walls

floral furnace
#

yeah i just noticed it right now, ill fix the spawning

weary stream
#

i get this TypeLoadException: Could not load type 'TransitionPoint' from assembly 'Assembly-CSharp, Version=0.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null'. System.Reflection.MonoMethodInfo.GetMethodInfo (IntPtr handle) (at /Users/builduser/buildslave/mono/build/mcs/class/corlib/System.Reflection/MonoMethod.cs:59) System.Reflection.MonoMethodInfo.GetAttributes (IntPtr handle) (at /Users/builduser/buildslave/mono/build/mcs/class/corlib/System.Reflection/MonoMethod.cs:75) System.Reflection.MonoMethod.get_Attributes () (at /Users/builduser/buildslave/mono/build/mcs/class/corlib/System.Reflection/MonoMethod.cs:245) System.Reflection.MethodBase.get_IsSpecialName () (at /Users/builduser/buildslave/mono/build/mcs/class/corlib/System.Reflection/MethodBase.cs:184) UnityEditor.Build.BuildPipelineInterfaces.InitializeBuildCallbacks (BuildCallbacks findFlags) (at C:/buildslave/unity/build/Editor/Mono/BuildPipeline/BuildPipelineInterfaces.cs:191)

leaden hedge
#

Disable checking for walls
Easy

#

Call it bullet pentration

floral furnace
#

but but i want wall collisions 😩

#

that should be a charm instead

#

actually its not even colliding with anything yet

weary stream
#

you should make it so depending on the ammo or charms it could go through walls like a plasma gun :p

floral furnace
#

yeah thats what im planning to do

weary stream
#

you need a gun shoot anim for the gun

floral furnace
#

that... i dont know how to

#

but imo too low prior at least for now

weary stream
#

you can either do it with code (its not hard) or with unity animator and an asset bundle

leaden hedge
#

Are you using an assetbundle or just a sprite

weary stream
#

i recommend the second one as you can add particles to the shoot aswell

floral furnace
#

also i cant find a good art for the guns, pixel art doesnt fit with HK at all, i just got this sprite for Rimworld

rain cedar
#

Are the collisions broken or have you just not done it yet?

weary stream
#

which helps a lot with the aesthetics of the shoot (the feeling)

floral furnace
#

not yet done

rain cedar
#

Alright

leaden hedge
#

You can add particles from code

weary stream
#

what do you mean sean?

floral furnace
#

also yes its just a sprite thing no asset bundle shit

leaden hedge
#

Is use code to animate it too

floral furnace
#

loaded directly from the resource folder as a texture then applied at a spriterenderer

leaden hedge
#

So you can make it more random

weary stream
#

yeah you can make a particle system and set it up, although is quite scary from script (module handling) but i meant particles as the visual effect, Animator, not a Particle Rendering

floral furnace
#

ill try animating it by the end of this mod

#

well the original thing i used was just instantiating fireballs, so the particles werent a problem because they were already added with the fireball itself

weary stream
#

btw what about the error above?

#
System.Reflection.MonoMethodInfo.GetMethodInfo (IntPtr handle) (at /Users/builduser/buildslave/mono/build/mcs/class/corlib/System.Reflection/MonoMethod.cs:59)
System.Reflection.MonoMethodInfo.GetAttributes (IntPtr handle) (at /Users/builduser/buildslave/mono/build/mcs/class/corlib/System.Reflection/MonoMethod.cs:75)
System.Reflection.MonoMethod.get_Attributes () (at /Users/builduser/buildslave/mono/build/mcs/class/corlib/System.Reflection/MonoMethod.cs:245)
System.Reflection.MethodBase.get_IsSpecialName () (at /Users/builduser/buildslave/mono/build/mcs/class/corlib/System.Reflection/MethodBase.cs:184)
UnityEditor.Build.BuildPipelineInterfaces.InitializeBuildCallbacks (BuildCallbacks findFlags) (at C:/buildslave/unity/build/Editor/Mono/BuildPipeline/BuildPipelineInterfaces.cs:191)```
leaden hedge
#

It only needs to be like on fire set var to 0 and increment it with time (or use time.time - recoiltime), figure out a function or 2 that spikes high at a low value and then slowly goes back to 0 at 1, then use that curve to set the y position of the gun

#

Then make x move randomly when you shoot, and rotate it on z axis randomly

#

Should look ok

weary stream
#

what are you talking about

leaden hedge
#

Animating the gun

#

Your error is you're trying to use a modded DLL I think

weary stream
#

use Mathf.Cos for that

#

and a float variable that loops from 0 to Mathf.pi

leaden hedge
#

Won't spike the right way

#

It wants to go to 1 at like 0.1 then slowly go back down to 1 at 1

weary stream
#

i do that a lot in my game to make things bounce from to 0 to 1 to 0 or loop around

leaden hedge
#

Guns don't recoil (atleast in popular media) in a smooth motion

weary stream
#

then use a coroutine and set up two animations in a row

leaden hedge
#

That's why I said a function or 2 :)

weary stream
#

xD i didnt understand what you said

#

DirectoryNotFoundException: Could not find a part of the path "E:\Dev\Hollow Knight Dev\Assets\StreamingAssets\BuildMetadata.json".

#

how do i deal with this now

#

i have a E:\ disc but

#

whats that

floral furnace
#

ok ok thx ill animate it that way then, also this thing did got random recoil bullet direction back then dunno if i should implement it again (just for the sake of changing a charm to remove the recoil deviation)

leaden hedge
#

That's an assetbundle file 🤔

weary stream
#

i only loaded the dlls

#

I still recommend doing it from unity

#

you will have more control over the aesthethics when you have to put sprites and stuff

leaden hedge
#

Yeah for particles and stuff use the animator

#

The only reason I'd use code for recoil is to make it random

#

It might look weird if its always the same

floral furnace
#

I have unity installed but i think ive only made a 2d side scroller from some "Do what i say" tutorial online but i stopped past the parallax coding zote

#

and that was like, a year ago?

leaden hedge
#

Animator is easy enough

#

You just make a new anim and attach to an object, open the animator window and hit record

#

Move the keyframe around, then just position stuff how you want it on that frame

weary stream
#

yeah, the only two weird things you might need to know about are the curves and how the transitions work

#

specially for non blended transitions

#

i took a while to figure that out

leaden hedge
#

I dont even know why blended transitions are the default

floral furnace
#

ok ok thanks noted everything

leaden hedge
#

Esp in 2d projects

weary stream
#

the animator is kinda... bad tbh

#

thats why they used tk2d aswell

#

but tk2d is a paid plugin

#

btw

#

i got the dlls but

#

for some reason it cant load them because they are not x64? wut

leaden hedge
#

Maybe unity defaults to x64 for editor and only built projects can be x86

weary stream
#

that doesnt make much sense

#

how do i get the steam api and the steamworks dlls working then :/

#

it seems the only thing stopping me

leaden hedge
#

They are probably standard across games

#

Find a 64bit one

#

Maybe works intenseface

weary stream
#

people recommend me to get a unity 32 bits version, really

leaden hedge
#

That might work too

weary stream
#

yeah but i have unity pro, in a non legacy way

#

so i would have to downgrade to the free version

weary stream
#

@leaden hedge how do i sign an assembly?
error CS1704: An assembly with the same name `Assembly-CSharp-firstpass' has already been imported. Consider removing one of the references or sign the assembly Library/ScriptAssemblies/Assembly-CSharp-firstpass.dll (Location of the symbol related to previous error) Assets/References/Assembly-CSharp-firstpass.dll (Location of the symbol related to previous error)

leaden hedge
#

Unity pro does nothing anymore btw

#

Dark theme and no unity splash is about it

#

You probably can't sign it

#

You shouldn't need first pass anyway afaik

weary stream
#

i'm trying to change the reference to a new name so they dont overlap but i cant seem to do it from dnspy

#

i'm kinda in front of a wall xD

#

it does

#

otherwise it gives another error

#
System.Reflection.MonoMethodInfo.GetMethodInfo (IntPtr handle) (at /Users/builduser/buildslave/mono/build/mcs/class/corlib/System.Reflection/MonoMethod.cs:59)
System.Reflection.MonoMethodInfo.GetAttributes (IntPtr handle) (at /Users/builduser/buildslave/mono/build/mcs/class/corlib/System.Reflection/MonoMethod.cs:75)
System.Reflection.MonoMethod.get_Attributes () (at /Users/builduser/buildslave/mono/build/mcs/class/corlib/System.Reflection/MonoMethod.cs:245)
System.Reflection.MethodBase.get_IsSpecialName () (at /Users/builduser/buildslave/mono/build/mcs/class/corlib/System.Reflection/MethodBase.cs:184)
UnityEditor.Build.BuildPipelineInterfaces.InitializeBuildCallbacks (BuildCallbacks findFlags) (at C:/buildslave/unity/build/Editor/Mono/BuildPipeline/BuildPipelineInterfaces.cs:191)```
cunning lagoon
#

hey is the pure knight mod a thing somewhere @copper nacelle

#

or is it not out yet

weary stream
#

whats the pure knight mod

hollow pier
#

best mod mystery has fallen GWbratWhy

cunning lagoon
#

it makes the knight kinda look like pv

flat forum
#

Yeah

cunning lagoon
#

i onyl saw a 10 second video of it but i looks rad

floral furnace
#

iance

flat forum
#

Also changes Baldur Shell

#

makes it like the PV shield

cunning lagoon
#

you made the art right?

flat forum
#

Yeah, most of it

floral furnace
#

no it was folding papers

cunning lagoon
#

it's great

flat forum
#

Oh, Oh, and it should change spells and shade stuff a bit too

weary stream
#

wait spells too?

#

what is pv btw

cunning lagoon
#

pure vessel

weary stream
#

oh

floral furnace
#

its the closest thing we have to a cosmetic thing, until TC starts releasing Hollow Knight Cape Color Packs for 4.99

#

oh and Invert Knight too

weary stream
#

for some reason unity hub is not working for me, it freezes after completing the profile

#

did anyone install unity with it?

weary stream
#

"unity license information is invalid" wut

flat forum
#

this should be the Spell sheet

#

if 56 added it

weary stream
#

that looks just like a recolor

floral furnace
#

Papers, papers, papers, hey papers

#

i just want to say you make rad fucking colors

flat forum
#

well, yeah

#

Void Spells are, by 56's request, more Soul-ly and white

weary stream
#

it would be better if we had hornet as a playable character tbh :<

solemn rivet
#

papers!

#

u da man

flat forum
#

Hey Gradow!

#

Thanks!

#

You too!

weary stream
#

hi gradow!

#

yep i dont seem find a way to use the free version

#

da fuk is that

#

oh nvm i got it working

hollow pier
#

Gradow!

weary stream
#

It seems like i managed to import hollow knight inside the unity editor LOL

solemn rivet
#

ptk!

weary stream
#

oh my

solemn rivet
#

wait

#

how did you manage to load it in unity

#

also, do you have playmaker fsm editor?

weary stream
#

nope

#

only the reader

#

the fsm editor is a paid plugin

solemn rivet
#

yeah, I know

weary stream
#

but unless someone post it i will have to change the fsms manually

solemn rivet
#

I should prolly change the donation button in the installer to say

#

"donate so I can buy an fsm editor and change the modding scene forever"

flat forum
#

hehehe

weary stream
#

most of the scripts doesnt seem to be accesible from the unity inspector yet tho

cunning lagoon
#

whosmt cares no one is going to donate toa black moth lol

solemn rivet
#

u wrong dlk

#

also, papers

flat forum
#

yes?

solemn rivet
#

do you have more than 4gb ram now?

flat forum
#

yeah

#

I fixed it

solemn rivet
flat forum
#

I tested and got Enemy Rando working

solemn rivet
#

nice!

cunning lagoon
#

nice

#

play infinite grimm

solemn rivet
#

Imma play Timespinners later today

cunning lagoon
#

no

#

play infinite grimm

solemn rivet
#

no

cunning lagoon
#

sean do @ speedrunner and tell them to play infinite grimm

solemn rivet
#

IG is shit good, but I don't wanna play it

weary stream
#

oh

cunning lagoon
#

i need someone to compete with

weary stream
#

how is timespinners

solemn rivet
#

didn't play it yet

#

excite bois

rain cedar
#

I can't even do that

#

It's everyone or no one with role pings

#

Can't let only one role do it

cunning lagoon
#

hal 👀

river eagle
#

discord at it again with their amazing perms management system

cunning lagoon
#

do @ everyone and tell them to play infinite grimm

river eagle
#

k

#

@𝖾veryone play infinite grimm

weary stream
#

i have 1.9k damage on infinite grimm after 20+ attempts

cunning lagoon
#

well do more attempts

weary stream
#

i did him with only dash and overcharmed, is that a bad thing?

solemn rivet
#

yeah

weary stream
#

dash and mantis claw

cunning lagoon
#

not if you are doing one hit mode

weary stream
#

i wonder if i can do better now

cunning lagoon
#

ptk play ig

weary stream
#

btw, why does the grimmchild thing look like a happy cat? lol

floral furnace
#

lmao still getting hit after 1.563^1000000 eons of playing hollow knight

cunning lagoon
#

why are you using grimmchild

#

you dont need grimmchild for ig

hollow pier
#

no you do

cunning lagoon
#

Ok i'll start using it then

urban olive
#

@fair rampart nice job it’s a great mod

cunning lagoon
#

lock jeever play ig

urban olive
#

Infinite grimm?

#

Perhaps

cunning lagoon
urban olive
#

I need to finish radiant Abrad on my switch first tho

hollow pier
#

i'll play it

#

but i need to shitpost first

cunning lagoon
#

understandable

weary stream
#

does someone have a sln project of the hollow knight assembly?

#

specially the modding api

rain cedar
cunning lagoon
#

sean play ig

rain cedar
#

u

cunning lagoon
#

i am

rain cedar
#

Too busy finding krythom's family

cunning lagoon
#

oh understandable

solemn rivet
tranquil glen
cunning lagoon
#

kry

#

play ig

hollow pier
#

wdym

#

already found

tranquil glen
#

what is ig

cunning lagoon
#

infinite grimm

tranquil glen
#

no

cunning lagoon
#

wtf why

hollow pier
#

kry only does high tier memes

#

ig is mediocre at best

cunning lagoon
#

if you beat any of my scores sean makes you mod

tranquil glen
#

I have bad experiences playing games that i've been told to

rain cedar
#

If you play infinite grimm I won't make you mod

#

I lied last time

#

Probably lying this time

#

It checks out

tranquil glen
#

Blame sean for my non-playing of infinite grimm

#

Only playing base hk forever now

weary stream
#

@rain cedar thats only a patch, i need the whole hollow knight project patched

tranquil glen
#

nothing new

cunning lagoon
#

ok i'll forgive u if u get ax or trinomi to play ig

rain cedar
#

Then use dnspy to output a project

cunning lagoon
#

or literally anyone good at the game

tranquil glen
#

well you're not gonna find anyone then

hollow pier
#

@horheristo

rain cedar
#

Nice you think I'm good at the game

tranquil glen
#

I'm the only person who fits that criteria

cunning lagoon
#

no you just happened to be here

hollow pier
#

nor bug nor beast nor god

tranquil glen
#

and i'm not plaaying it

rain cedar
#

shit

#

At least krythom thinks I'm good at iconoclasts

#

He said so on stream

tranquil glen
#

I take it back

rain cedar
#

You can't you already said it

tranquil glen
#

Make me mod and i'll untake it back

hollow pier
#

lmao sean can't even get a quantum leap like kry

rain cedar
#

This is extortion

tranquil glen
#

I wasn't in a right state of mind when i said that

rain cedar
#

ptkyr I reproduced what he did first try

hollow pier
#

only after the master discovered it

tranquil glen
#

I reproduced what i did on my 0th try

hollow pier
#

this tbh

tranquil glen
#

I didn't even need to try

rain cedar
#

You need to do a corner warp onto a transition

#

That's so situational

#

Probably only there

tranquil glen
#

It just happened cause i'm so god

rain cedar
#

It's useless

tranquil glen
#

no u

high moat
#

Am I gonna be green now since Ive written 4 lines of untested code?

rain cedar
#

I can't make people green sorry

hollow pier
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probably before aa is

tranquil glen
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I've written at least 8 ush

rain cedar
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Port your shit to 1.2.2.1 and I'll be impressed

tranquil glen
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Port my shit to 1.2.2.1 for me and I'll let you make me mod

high moat
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🤔

rain cedar
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public class ratthew : Mod
{
     public override void Initialize()
     {
          GameObject obj = new GameObject();
          Object.DontDestroyOnLoad(obj);
          obj.AddComponent<ModCheats>();
     }
}```
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I ported your mod

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Like I said before your cheat class is already completely separated from the game

tranquil glen
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ok

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now you can make me mod

rain cedar
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no

tranquil glen
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y

high moat
tranquil glen
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no

rain cedar
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He means hkmemes mod

tranquil glen
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src mod

high moat
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oh lmao

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who the fuck wants to watch other peoples runs

rain cedar
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We don't need help and you just seem to want mod to be cool anyway

hollow pier
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kry submit a shitton of runs with an alt so they need help verifying

tranquil glen
high moat
tranquil glen
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Sean I just want to feel like all my time spent on these shitty categories meant something sadgrub

weary stream
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what does this mean guys? (dnspy): c base..ctor();

leaden hedge
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Means run the base ctor

tranquil glen
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they forgot the a

hollow pier
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basae

leaden hedge
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So if you have a class that extends A base.ctor() runs A()

weary stream
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but its a monobehaviour

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public class AreaTitleController : MonoBehaviour
{
// Token: 0x06003409 RID: 13321 RVA: 0x00117BA8 File Offset: 0x00115DA8
public AreaTitleController() : base
{

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so it means this is another method right

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that shouldnt even exist

leaden hedge
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Normally in csharp its like public B(int x) : base() but dnspy writes it weird

weary stream
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it looks like thats the inspector data

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(i dumped the game into unity editor)

leaden hedge
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Its what I told you 🤔

cunning lagoon
leaden hedge
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Its how dnspy shows compiled ctors that call the base ctor

compact sedge
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oh geeze

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ok what scores do I need to update

weary stream
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this also looks really bad:

if (component)
        {
            TransitionPoint transitionPoint = component;
            if (BossStatueLoadManager.<>f__mg$cache0 == null)
            {
                BossStatueLoadManager.<>f__mg$cache0 = new TransitionPoint.BeforeTransitionEvent(BossStatueLoadManager.Clear);
            }
            transitionPoint.OnBeforeTransition += BossStatueLoadManager.<>f__mg$cache0;
        }```
cunning lagoon
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hard and timed

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sorry one hit and timed

leaden hedge
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Looks like confused garbage

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Dnspy struggles a lot with some stuff

weary stream
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Yeah..

rain cedar
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I mean .ctor is what the method is actually called

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It's not confused it's more just a missing feature

weary stream
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it doesnt seem like i could dump the game at all into unity with a decompiled version

cunning lagoon
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also @compact sedge it always seems to lag after the ngg spikes show up
i didn't lose a single frame pre-7k damage but when i make it to the ngg spikes it always seem to stutter once or twice and it ends many runs

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like it literally always happens at least once