#archived-modding-development | Hollow Knight | Page 220

vapid cape Sep 25, 2018, 4:21 AM

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I know that one. I just usually don't get it because I'm holding an art.

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I have to be fishing for it to heal there

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 4:21 AM

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is the qol on the drive updated

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 4:21 AM

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yes

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 4:21 AM

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k

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 4:21 AM

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warped sinew Sep 25, 2018, 4:21 AM

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https://youtu.be/WUX7ghimWPM

YouTube

shad0ex

NGG 3287 Damage

Shout outs to my modding boiz over at https://discord.gg/hollowknight

▶ Play video

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 4:21 AM

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copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 4:21 AM

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cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 4:22 AM

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graig you should turn on the lag reduction options

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it makes the background a static image and its way less distracting

warped sinew Sep 25, 2018, 4:22 AM

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When he does the dash uppercut. If you just jump on the spot and let him go under you, you can heal while he is rising

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Firebats is the other heal

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Hmm OK I'll do that dlk

vapid cape Sep 25, 2018, 4:23 AM

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You do this quite a bit differently than I do

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I rely on greatslash for the most part

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 4:23 AM

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fury ngg build when

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 4:23 AM

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i actually though t about that

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do you get healed when you enter dreams?

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 4:23 AM

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yeah

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 4:23 AM

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frick

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 4:24 AM

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you'd have to get hit twice

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 4:24 AM

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i wanted to do a hitless ngg with fury

warped sinew Sep 25, 2018, 4:24 AM

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Do it

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 4:24 AM

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it isnt hitless if i let him hit me to get me down to 1 hp zote

vapid cape Sep 25, 2018, 4:24 AM

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I almost hate that I watched that

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 4:24 AM

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i dont think im good enough to do it anyway

vapid cape Sep 25, 2018, 4:24 AM

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Looking at you do it shows me a way to do this that's WAY EASIER

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 4:25 AM

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fuck i gotta try healing

vapid cape Sep 25, 2018, 4:25 AM

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My way sucks ass compared to what you're doing here.

compact sedge Sep 25, 2018, 4:26 AM

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btw it's not a bug that the spikes do 4 masks on the 3rd phase (after 1600 dmg)

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 4:26 AM

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no they did 4 at the start

compact sedge Sep 25, 2018, 4:26 AM

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ohhhh

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 4:26 AM

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it set me overcharmed

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that was old ngg tho

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noot

compact sedge Sep 25, 2018, 4:26 AM

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I bet they don't reset after the 3rd phase

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 4:26 AM

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idk what graig's thing is

compact sedge Sep 25, 2018, 4:26 AM

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that's what I get for copying code from the old one

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 4:26 AM

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i dont think i have ever experienced that bug

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i may have just not noticed it though

compact sedge Sep 25, 2018, 4:27 AM

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I bet if you die having done between 1600 and 2400 dmg there's a non zero chance the spikes will continue doing 4 dmg

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but I need to test

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 4:27 AM

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wow aa gonna bop me too

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GWmythiFeelsBadMan

compact sedge Sep 25, 2018, 4:27 AM

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anyway uh IDK if this is the right time or place but I have a very tragic announcement to make.

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I am killing off my most well known and peoples' all time favorite mods.

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In the coming weeks it will be replaced by another mod which will do some similar things but be more in depth

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 4:28 AM

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wow killing off infinite notches

compact sedge Sep 25, 2018, 4:28 AM

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that's right. Nuke meme is being killed and replaced by the mod I am now officially announcing today: Half mod.

vapid cape Sep 25, 2018, 4:28 AM

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Holy fuck @warped sinew

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First try emulating your strategy and I kinda feel like I could go to 2400 no problem llike this.

compact sedge Sep 25, 2018, 4:29 AM

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yeah graig makes it look easy

vapid cape Sep 25, 2018, 4:29 AM

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Thanks for making ngg look easy lol

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I'm paused at full health at first puffer fish, his strats rule

compact sedge Sep 25, 2018, 4:30 AM

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Half mod is everything nuke meme stood for but much more indepth. it will be ready as soon as kdt/56 figure out this unity thing reeeee.

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wait is it possible to export the individual asset that text mesh pro generated and send that to me and I can try making it a bundle 56?

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 4:30 AM

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that was the individual asset

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it was .asset

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not .assets

compact sedge Sep 25, 2018, 4:31 AM

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well no shit UBAE failed

summer badge Sep 25, 2018, 4:31 AM

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i cant find a hook that lets me set the players soul to max when they load the game without crashing the goddamn thing

compact sedge Sep 25, 2018, 4:31 AM

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would it be possible to make it into .assets even tho it only has a single asset?

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 4:31 AM

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probably

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you ever go to fight infinite grimm

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and realize you don't have it installed

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 4:32 AM

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not bad for a 1st try

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copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 4:32 AM

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stop being good

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 4:32 AM

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i'm coming for you graig 👀

compact sedge Sep 25, 2018, 4:32 AM

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well I wasted a lot of time for nothing then lul @copper nacelle

vapid cape Sep 25, 2018, 4:33 AM

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I'm catching up too! Maybe! Probably not!

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 4:33 AM

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GWfroggyBlobWokeThink

vapid cape Sep 25, 2018, 4:35 AM

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Still gotta fully learn this in muscle memory though

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 4:35 AM

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i'm about 1 minute from trying a fury build

vapid cape Sep 25, 2018, 4:35 AM

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not yet broke 1k with graig strats because I heal like an idiot

summer badge Sep 25, 2018, 4:37 AM

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what hook can i use that'll let me set the players soul to max when they load the game without crashing the damned thing

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 4:37 AM

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AfterSavegameLoad

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wait a few frames

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tho

vapid cape Sep 25, 2018, 4:38 AM

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ahhh I keep pogo-bouncing off him into spikes,that's what's really fucking me up right now

summer badge Sep 25, 2018, 4:38 AM

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wait a few frames?

vapid cape Sep 25, 2018, 4:38 AM

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my nail art strategy doesn't have this problem

summer badge Sep 25, 2018, 4:38 AM

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hao

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 4:38 AM

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coroutines

summer badge Sep 25, 2018, 4:39 AM

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i tried after save game load before and it crashed

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 4:39 AM

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the fuck

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it's literally in a try catch block

summer badge Sep 25, 2018, 4:40 AM

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maybe it was savegameload instead of aftersavegameload but i dont think so

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 4:40 AM

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all hooks are caught

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you shouldn't be able to crash unless you do something incredibly dumb

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infinite black screen sure

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but crashing the game no

summer badge Sep 25, 2018, 4:41 AM

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it does infinite black screen then i click or some shit and it "stops working"

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 4:42 AM

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ur hero update bad

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probably

summer badge Sep 25, 2018, 4:42 AM

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can i just do private void Instance_AfterSavegameLoadHook(SaveGameData data) { PlayerData.instance.MPCharge = PlayerData.instance.maxMP; }

vapid cape Sep 25, 2018, 4:42 AM

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Bah, I'm done trying for now.

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https://puu.sh/BAyKx/0228285720.jpg

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 4:43 AM

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56 btfo

vapid cape Sep 25, 2018, 4:43 AM

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Put me at number 3 for now.

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 4:43 AM

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eeeeeee

summer badge Sep 25, 2018, 4:43 AM

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56 will it work or do i need to wait a few frames

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 4:45 AM

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wait

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AHAHHH

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asjdkhfajkilsdfjklasdf

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apleas ekill me

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 4:45 AM

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me too

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 4:45 AM

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no

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me

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cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 4:45 AM

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no me

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 4:45 AM

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i want to die

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100 damage

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ree

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how do i pufferfish

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please

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 4:46 AM

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i told you

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stand near the wall to have time to react

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and plan ahead

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 4:46 AM

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ok

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try 2

summer badge Sep 25, 2018, 4:46 AM

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fji;daoijfioadjf;ioajei;ofjaiodjfoiadjf

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black screen

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aoiajdfioajoifjaoidj foiajoiejfaoijdf

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it never ends what the hellllll

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i want to commit die

vapid cape Sep 25, 2018, 4:46 AM

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I'm gonna work on a standard hardmode score now.

summer badge Sep 25, 2018, 4:47 AM

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i dont understand why it keeps crashing

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 4:47 AM

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did you coroutine you fool

summer badge Sep 25, 2018, 4:47 AM

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coroutines are dumb

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i dont know coroutines yet fml

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 4:48 AM

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IEnumerator EEEE()
{
    while(PlayerData.instance == null)
        yield return null;
    // ur stuff
}
GameManager.instance.StartCoroutine(EEEE());

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kthx bye

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or you could do it on save game load

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probably works tm

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summer badge Sep 25, 2018, 4:50 AM

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        {
            IEnumerator REEEE()
            {
                while (PlayerData.instance == null)
                    yield return null;
                PlayerData.instance.MPCharge = PlayerData.instance.maxMP;
            }
            GameManager.instance.StartCoroutine(REEEE());
        }```
good?

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 4:50 AM

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aww i got a frame drop on the second phase

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GWmythiFeelsBadMan

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 4:51 AM

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you ever think you have ngg kinda down

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then die before first pufferfish thrice

summer badge Sep 25, 2018, 4:53 AM

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black screen

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fml

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oml

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kms

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wgw

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 4:53 AM

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comment your other hooks thanks

summer badge Sep 25, 2018, 4:54 AM

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📎 Screenshot_31.png

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📎 Screenshot_32.png

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in your infinite wisdom, show me what's wrong with this code

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 4:55 AM

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wow he just let me heal thrice on 2 staggers in a row

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how nice of him

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 4:55 AM

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comment

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the other hooks

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out

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in init

summer badge Sep 25, 2018, 4:55 AM

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fine

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now test again?

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 4:56 AM

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how many spell casts is a full soul meter with spell twister

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8?

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assuming no nail hits

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 4:58 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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@summer badge t

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e

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st

summer badge Sep 25, 2018, 4:58 AM

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no black screen

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oof

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i think afterplayerdeath hook is the issue

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 4:59 AM

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try uncommenting it

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big woke

summer badge Sep 25, 2018, 5:00 AM

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yeah ik

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 5:00 AM

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📎 elderweary.png

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 5:01 AM

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got a hitless first phase and choked at 3k GWmythiFeelsBadMan

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 5:02 AM

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GWmythicalFeelsSadMan

summer badge Sep 25, 2018, 5:03 AM

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no black screen

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but

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no full soul either

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 5:04 AM

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mfw i go from full hp at the start of pufferfish to 1hp at the end

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also i got hit by the spikes at the top when i tried to pogo

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like you had said

summer badge Sep 25, 2018, 5:06 AM

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oof i guess heroupdatehook was the issue all along

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 5:06 AM

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told u

summer badge Sep 25, 2018, 5:06 AM

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howmstever, even with newgamehook and whatnot, no full soul at spawn

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 5:07 AM

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wait until the player spawns maybe idk

summer badge Sep 25, 2018, 5:07 AM

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PlayerData.instance.MPCharge = PlayerData.instance.maxMP; shouldnt this give full soul

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 5:07 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

summer badge Sep 25, 2018, 5:07 AM

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oof

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 5:07 AM

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wait for hero controller to not be null maybe

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and then maybe a frame after that

vapid cape Sep 25, 2018, 5:08 AM

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basic ass IG is actually pretty hard too

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 5:08 AM

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really dude

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really

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 5:08 AM

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what was graig

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 5:08 AM

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3287

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 5:08 AM

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wow

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 5:08 AM

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@compact sedge

vapid cape Sep 25, 2018, 5:08 AM

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he gets LIGHTNING fast and getting combo'd into the wall for double damage is a fast way to go from "doing good" to "almost dead"

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 5:08 AM

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well that's my 3rd ngg kill

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poggers

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 5:09 AM

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wtf

compact sedge Sep 25, 2018, 5:09 AM

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jeeze u guys

summer badge Sep 25, 2018, 5:09 AM

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theres gotta be a more efficient way to test this shit than having to add the class to the library, build the library, and stick it into the game

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its so tedious

vapid cape Sep 25, 2018, 5:09 AM

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https://puu.sh/BAzO9/2e80583281.jpg

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My best run so far.

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 5:09 AM

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you can have the post-build auto move it to mods

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very useful

summer badge Sep 25, 2018, 5:09 AM

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howmst

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 5:10 AM

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            SET MOD_DEST="D:\Steam\\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\hollow_knight_Data\Managed\Mods\"
            echo Copying mod
copy "$(TargetPath)" %25MOD_DEST%25

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in post build

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adjust as needed ofc

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 5:11 AM

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keep at it milky

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he gets way more fun after 7k

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 5:11 AM

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the trick to pufferfish is ddark

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cmm

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i got through hitless with ddark

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 5:11 AM

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yea thsts good

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the only hard poart about pufferfish is getting a 4-5 spike wall around you

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that pretty much guarantees a hit without ddark

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 5:12 AM

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whenever i get good pufferfishes i get trash p1

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and vice versa

vapid cape Sep 25, 2018, 5:12 AM

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What happens at 7k? Go ahead and spoil me

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 5:12 AM

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ngg spikes

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they give you more time to react and stay up for less time

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but at the same time you have death walls and grimm moves at mach speed

compact sedge Sep 25, 2018, 5:13 AM

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ahhh I write code that should work and it doesn't work and it also doesn't give me any errors. what do?

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 5:13 AM

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also the death walls

vapid cape Sep 25, 2018, 5:13 AM

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Oh, well at this point I'm used to those.

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 5:13 AM

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i can dodge ngg spikes better than those things

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they're just slowly doing nothing

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then suddenly death

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 5:13 AM

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yea aa's spikes are harder

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also ig can use the pillar

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which ngg cant

vapid cape Sep 25, 2018, 5:14 AM

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The walls are tough for me too. They make me nervous, and a lot of it's because I feel being anywhere NEAR them is asking to eat 4 masks

summer badge Sep 25, 2018, 5:15 AM

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je ne comprende pas ou mettre le code, 56

compact sedge Sep 25, 2018, 5:15 AM

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I mean it sorta is

vapid cape Sep 25, 2018, 5:15 AM

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oh shit, I didn't even think about fire pillars + ngg spikes

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that's mean as hell

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 5:15 AM

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they are fair dont worry

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aa is not kdt

compact sedge Sep 25, 2018, 5:15 AM

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moi aussi, Anarchist

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damn u summoned them

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 5:15 AM

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lmao

leaden hedge Sep 25, 2018, 5:15 AM

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I removed them from ngg though 🤔

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 5:16 AM

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ig is more cruel then ngg stay woke

leaden hedge Sep 25, 2018, 5:16 AM

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Only because it was literally unplayable

summer badge Sep 25, 2018, 5:16 AM

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idk where to put the set mod dest bull

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 5:16 AM

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thats what fuckin triggers me about ngg

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you fucking made a great first phase

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and ruined it with the second one

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it couldve been such a great fight

vapid cape Sep 25, 2018, 5:17 AM

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I agree with this. I haven't tried phase 2 very hard but, compared to phase 1 it's just stupid and really dull.

compact sedge Sep 25, 2018, 5:17 AM

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pillars are only on the last phase of IG NGG tho

vapid cape Sep 25, 2018, 5:17 AM

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"NKG but there's 2 of them" doesn't do phase 1 much justice

leaden hedge Sep 25, 2018, 5:17 AM

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Blame "It'd be cool if we could fight 2 nkgs" as suggestions about ngg

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 5:18 AM

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wait kdt

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didn't you say you'd update ngg

leaden hedge Sep 25, 2018, 5:18 AM

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And me saying that won't work

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 5:18 AM

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if someone beat it

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in the readme

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he did a 1.2.2.1 kill too

summer badge Sep 25, 2018, 5:18 AM

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nvm i dont need yo code im doing it solo

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 5:18 AM

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👀

compact sedge Sep 25, 2018, 5:18 AM

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ok how the fuck does TMP work and does the game actually use it for fonts or does it use something entirely different.

leaden hedge Sep 25, 2018, 5:18 AM

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Yeah I probably will with some custom attacks

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 5:19 AM

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GWfroggyZoomeyes

compact sedge Sep 25, 2018, 5:19 AM

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I set the tmp font thing to the correct texture which I just verified by dumping the texture

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 5:19 AM

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will i witness a good ngg in my lifetime

compact sedge Sep 25, 2018, 5:19 AM

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and the correct material

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and it doesn't use it

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or throw an error

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it's jsut

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it just does nothing

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(maybe I set it in the wrong spot????)

summer badge Sep 25, 2018, 5:20 AM

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nvm

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ok so theres a thing for vs where you can set the build location, except it sends everything there, not just the .dll

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kinda annoying

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 5:20 AM

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also whats up with the pause menu

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you have to tap escape twice to close it

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 5:20 AM

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debug mod

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i spent like 2 minutes updating it

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so it does weird things

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 5:20 AM

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zote

compact sedge Sep 25, 2018, 5:21 AM

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I overwrote this function. can someone tell me if this function is wrong?

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ChangeFontByLanguage.orig_SetFont

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and this is my code

            Log("Setting font!");
            self.defaultFont.material = loadedMat;
            self.defaultFont.atlas = loadedTex;
            orig(self);

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the hook runs, a lot actually. maybe once for every string loaded by the game

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no exceptions thrown but no fonts changed either

vapid cape Sep 25, 2018, 5:25 AM

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God damn. I think I'm running out of steam.

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5k+ NKG really gets me with those walls

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 5:26 AM

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i found my ngg strat

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 5:26 AM

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@compact sedge @warped sinew

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4th ngg kill :)

vapid cape Sep 25, 2018, 5:26 AM

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Also feels like healing during spikes no longer really works after a certain point

compact sedge Sep 25, 2018, 5:26 AM

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geeze

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 5:26 AM

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i was kinda shakey at the end ngl lol

summer badge Sep 25, 2018, 5:26 AM

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papa 56

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your post build function copies everything over to the mods folder, not just the .dll

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that's kinda not what i wanted to happen

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 5:27 AM

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try doing it right

young walrus Sep 25, 2018, 5:27 AM

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OOOHHHHHHHHH

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYvElFX7LXw

YouTube

saad warrach

Oohhhhhh😂😂

Lol _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ abn

▶ Play video

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 5:28 AM

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GWchadMEGATHINK

summer badge Sep 25, 2018, 5:29 AM

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scratch that, it doesnt actually copy anything now

vapid cape Sep 25, 2018, 5:29 AM

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I think I've had enough for now. Who's in charge of the leaderboard?

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 5:29 AM

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angle

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 5:29 AM

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e

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summer badge Sep 25, 2018, 5:30 AM

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yeah

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i did that

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 5:30 AM

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no

summer badge Sep 25, 2018, 5:30 AM

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yes

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📎 Screenshot_33.png

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 5:31 AM

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is your hollow knight in d

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 5:31 AM

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ill give you the d

summer badge Sep 25, 2018, 5:31 AM

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wdym

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 5:31 AM

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also %25 goes to %

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thinks u make

vapid cape Sep 25, 2018, 5:32 AM

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Well, my scores are 1463 for ngg and 6700 for hardmode, and that's as high as I care to go right now. I'm probably gonna mess with randomizers next.

summer badge Sep 25, 2018, 5:32 AM

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oof

compact sedge Sep 25, 2018, 5:32 AM

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56 update scoreboard kthx

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 5:32 AM

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u

compact sedge Sep 25, 2018, 5:32 AM

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I'm going to sleep

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 5:32 AM

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lmao

compact sedge Sep 25, 2018, 5:32 AM

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u do it

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 5:32 AM

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i need to bop milky

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 5:32 AM

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gn elderbug

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 5:32 AM

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elderbug

compact sedge Sep 25, 2018, 5:33 AM

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bai/

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 5:33 AM

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update my score you lazy fuck

summer badge Sep 25, 2018, 5:33 AM

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aight now it works

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thanks to my troubleshooting skillz

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 5:33 AM

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GWchadMEGATHINK

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also get any other modder to do it thanks

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they all have r/w

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 5:33 AM

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ok @ modders can i get my 3540 on the ngg scoreboard

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTvrn36hM08

YouTube

DL Kurosh

Hollow Knight - Infinite Nightmare God Grimm - 3540 damage

▶ Play video

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😎

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im pretty happy with this one ngl

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i think it was hitless until the 3rd pfufer

summer badge Sep 25, 2018, 5:36 AM

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apparently PlayerData.instance.MPCharge = PlayerData.instance.maxMP; doesn't give you max mp charge

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 5:36 AM

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have you tried waiting

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hollowface

summer badge Sep 25, 2018, 5:36 AM

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wdym

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 5:36 AM

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u

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wait till HeroController.instance isn't null dungo

summer badge Sep 25, 2018, 5:37 AM

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dafuq

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screw that noise

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by then you'll be dead cause you have 0 mp you thot

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 5:38 AM

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sounds fine to me

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 5:40 AM

#

;scoreboard

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wrong chat

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 5:41 AM

#

;eeeeeeeeeeee

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 5:41 AM

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🙃

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 5:41 AM

#

u

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 5:42 AM

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so i was kinda expecting this to take me hours

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what the fuck do i do now

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 5:43 AM

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my homework

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 5:43 AM

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2*3 = 6

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 5:43 AM

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rewrite the first tablet of the epic of gilgamesh in your own words

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1 hr history video

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also memorize the periodic table abbreviations

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 5:44 AM

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your homework is updating the scoreboard

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 5:44 AM

#

h

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 5:47 AM

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salubra

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haha im watching graig's ngg video

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it's so weird watching him hug the right wall

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because i always hug the left one

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 5:52 AM

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eeeeee

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i got 1352

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why

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 5:52 AM

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just let me take control of your computer and get a 3k rq

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then update my score

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 5:54 AM

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1288

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this is loss

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 5:55 AM

#

wait but its not a bug graig

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you took hits from the spikes

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after 1.6k they do 4 damage

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 5:55 AM

#

;graigpls

summer badge Sep 25, 2018, 5:55 AM

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btw 56 i was right, since there's a delay for getting max mp, you die automagically

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 5:55 AM

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nice

river eagle Sep 25, 2018, 5:55 AM

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got you

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 5:55 AM

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LOL

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 5:56 AM

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@summer badge just hook hero update hook after setting mp GWchadMEGATHINK

summer badge Sep 25, 2018, 5:58 AM

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dafuq?

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 5:59 AM

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really

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makes

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u

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think

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literally put the hook init

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after

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setting the mp

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wokest

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 5:59 AM

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@copper nacelle can we get an updat on the scoreboard above??

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 6:03 AM

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help i've choked 5 times in a row

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 6:03 AM

#

f

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stream itr

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but not before updating the scoreboard

summer badge Sep 25, 2018, 6:04 AM

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im just gonna pick this shit up tomorrow im gettin annoyed that it keeps breaking

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 6:04 AM

#

you see i'm very protective of my infinite grimm scores

sterile pasture Sep 25, 2018, 6:07 AM

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I have a few questions

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 6:08 AM

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do u tho

sterile pasture Sep 25, 2018, 6:08 AM

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About the mod that makes you invincible

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 6:08 AM

#

.

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 6:08 AM

#

.

#

;installer

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f1

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get out of beta

sterile pasture Sep 25, 2018, 6:08 AM

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Will it still save everything after I delete the mod and beat the 5th pantheon using cheats?

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 6:09 AM

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fiftysix stream your ngg attempts

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 6:09 AM

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if i do that i'll never stop

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 6:09 AM

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good

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 6:09 AM

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no false incorrect

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i need to stop in like <10 min

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or i'll die

sterile pasture Sep 25, 2018, 6:09 AM

#

And does the game save my playthroughs?

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 6:09 AM

#

nah u dont

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 6:09 AM

#

also don't cheat p5 thanks

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 6:09 AM

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just play more

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lol

sterile pasture Sep 25, 2018, 6:10 AM

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I just want to unlock absrad

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I'm too bad to get there on my own

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Just that and the rest I'll do legit

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 6:10 AM

#

X

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relevant

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copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 6:11 AM

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that fuck was lying through his teeth the whole time

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ree

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 6:12 AM

#

📎 unknown.png

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really makes you think

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update my score and/or stream your attempts you lazy fuck

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 6:13 AM

#

what's your score

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also milky's scores

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 6:13 AM

#

3540

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 6:13 AM

#

iterator.next();

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 6:14 AM

#

📎 unknown.png

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idk if they sent screenshots

vapid cape Sep 25, 2018, 6:14 AM

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I did, they're above somewhere

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I can fetch em if you need em

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https://puu.sh/BAyKx/0228285720.jpg

https://puu.sh/BAzO9/2e80583281.jpg

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have em anyway

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 6:15 AM

#

nice

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 6:15 AM

#

mfw aa beat general milky

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 6:15 AM

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lmao

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AA good enough to do p5 all binds confirmed

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 6:16 AM

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@compact sedge get on it

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why does aa have a high hard mode score but like

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death ngg score

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 6:16 AM

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i assume he has barely even tried ngg

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also 7k isnt high thats when the difficulty begins

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 6:16 AM

#

true

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@ aa do ngg

vapid cape Sep 25, 2018, 6:17 AM

#

I'll get better at this, don't you worry

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 6:17 AM

#

please do

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i've been bugging 56 to play ig for a while

vapid cape Sep 25, 2018, 6:17 AM

#

I have my eyes on a 5 digit score for hm grimm at the very least

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 6:17 AM

#

graig and i need the competition

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and it's a ton of fun

vapid cape Sep 25, 2018, 6:18 AM

#

I also want at least 2400 on ngg at some point too

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 6:18 AM

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do it after wednesday thanks

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 6:20 AM

#

so how much faster does ngg get after the 1st pufferfish

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bc graig mentioned he noticed it

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but i literally cant

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it feels the same

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 6:20 AM

#

it changes?

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 6:20 AM

#

am i just retarded

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yeah you said it yourself a long time ago

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 6:21 AM

#

mfw

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yeah it does

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noot

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i barely notice it

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it's like

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identical

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 6:23 AM

#

maybe aa said it and im misremembering

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 6:24 AM

#

no it def does

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i checked

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also @vapid cape

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hollowface

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cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 6:25 AM

#

yea i know it does because either you or aa said it and graig mentioned he noticed it aswell

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i just wasnt sure who said it

vapid cape Sep 25, 2018, 6:25 AM

#

I notice it a little too. it's slight, but I think he does speed up a bit

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also nice job, I motivated you into keeping your number 3 spot. Don't get too comfy with it.

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 6:26 AM

#

maggot

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 6:26 AM

#

nice

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 6:26 AM

#

definitely planning on trying to kill him

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tbh

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 6:26 AM

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i know that feel of dying at exactly 1600

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lmao

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 6:27 AM

#

the pufferfish was just death

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i had 0 soul

#

my ddark memes died

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 6:27 AM

#

where did all your soul go maggot

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im always full

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 6:27 AM

#

my build is weird

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 6:27 AM

#

please dont tell me you are not using soul eater

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 6:27 AM

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i'm not

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 6:27 AM

#

no shit you suck then

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 6:27 AM

#

u

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 6:27 AM

#

how do you plan on surviving second phase

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 6:27 AM

#

high tier build

📎 unknown.png

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noot

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 6:28 AM

#

eh

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i can see it

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 6:28 AM

#

mop for the pogos is nice

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 6:28 AM

#

try to fit in spell twister at least

#

you will need it

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 6:28 AM

#

yes

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might swap out str and shaman for eater tbh

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 6:29 AM

#

that sounds like an incredibly bad and stupid idea

#

please dont do that

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 6:29 AM

#

yes

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what i've been doing so far is just not using spells as i get near the pufferfish

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so i have full soul when i go in

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 6:29 AM

#

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copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 6:30 AM

#

sad but true

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 6:30 AM

#

DLKurosh is right as usual

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 6:30 AM

#

now to start my homework

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noot

#

also ngg p1 is my favorite hk fight

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 6:32 AM

#

smh

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copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 6:32 AM

#

by a lot

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 6:32 AM

#

same

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i'm excited to see what kdt is going to do to him

#

if he ever changes it

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 6:32 AM

#

ye

#

it manages to be frustrating but still fun

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 6:33 AM

#

double nkg a la mantis lords/sob could've also been really good

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 6:33 AM

#

yes

#

i might try that after pv buff tbh

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 6:33 AM

#

but atm it's just a big shitshow

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 6:33 AM

#

yes

#

what charms do you use

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 6:34 AM

#

dashmaster soul eater strength and spell twister

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 6:34 AM

#

i c

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i need to work on my ngg w/out mop

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so i can soul eater

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 6:34 AM

#

yes

#

as much as i like the range upgrades

#

it's better to not use them

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 6:34 AM

#

yeah

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 6:34 AM

#

i used to use catcher and longnail

#

but i ended up ditching that aswell

#

also graig uses quick focus which gives you a very easy 1st phase

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 6:35 AM

#

yes

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 6:35 AM

#

at the cost of 3 wasted notches on the 2nd phase

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 6:35 AM

#

i got 4 heals in a stagger once

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w/out qfocus

#

it was great

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 6:36 AM

#

lol

#

the most i've gotten is 3

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 6:36 AM

#

so graig is using

#

qfocus, fstr, dashmaster

#

actually is he using dashmaster

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 6:37 AM

#

if you are using qf you might be better off not using dashmaster

#

if you take a hit bc of not being able to downdash you can just heal it

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 6:37 AM

#

i guess he's using soul eater then?

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 6:38 AM

#

prob

#

is this us on the race

📎 unknown.png

#

actually not u because u cant get into greenpath

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 6:40 AM

#

eeeeeee

vapid cape Sep 25, 2018, 6:41 AM

#

I have the most success with hiveblood but I also see why that's a BAD IDEA.

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 6:42 AM

#

yeah im not digging the hiveblood strats lol

vapid cape Sep 25, 2018, 6:44 AM

#

I took it originally because I thought healing was just totally out of the question outside of staggers.

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But now that I know that's not the case, most of my reasoning for taking it doesn't hold

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 6:44 AM

#

whenever i try and heal outside of staggers i die

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 6:44 AM

#

i just build myself around the second phase

#

i usually dont take many hits on the first one

warped sinew Sep 25, 2018, 7:07 AM

#

QF, Strength, Soul Eater, Compass

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 7:07 AM

#

compass hollowwoke

warped sinew Sep 25, 2018, 7:07 AM

#

I had a spare notch lul

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 7:07 AM

#

ah yeah you mentioned the compass yesterday

#

i forgot lmao

warped sinew Sep 25, 2018, 7:07 AM

#

I guess I should have used grub

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 7:07 AM

#

why not grubsong for the second phase thoufgh

warped sinew Sep 25, 2018, 7:07 AM

#

But ehh soul eater is good enough

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 7:07 AM

#

yea its hard to run out of soul

warped sinew Sep 25, 2018, 7:08 AM

#

Most of the time in second phase I get a nail hit directly after the dive, nearly refunds it

#

If you double hit both grimms with it you get a lot of soul

#

Also inverted knight, to be cool

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 7:40 AM

#

@copper nacelle what are these inconsistencies on the titles

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copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 7:40 AM

#

uhh

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 7:41 AM

#

unacceptable

glossy jungle Sep 25, 2018, 7:43 AM

#

its called variety

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the spice of life

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 7:43 AM

#

GWchadMEGATHINK

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 8:01 AM

#

does the timescale mod work on gm

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 8:01 AM

#

maybe but probably not

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 8:02 AM

#

ok

vapid cape Sep 25, 2018, 8:05 AM

#

How cool are the Mantis Gods? I'm considering checking those out for next run.

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 8:05 AM

#

very cool

vapid cape Sep 25, 2018, 8:06 AM

#

I was under the impression they're just double damage + speed though which is slightly redundant with GM content

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 8:06 AM

#

sob is not even close to the level of difficulty of the mantis gods

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 8:06 AM

#

sisters of battle is free

elfin urchin Sep 25, 2018, 8:06 AM

#

I was thinking that it would be all 4 mantis' aat once

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 8:06 AM

#

mantis gods is harder than lost lord

#

by a good bit

vapid cape Sep 25, 2018, 8:07 AM

#

Sounds like it's worth seeing. Is it another retroactive one, or do I need to start a new file?

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 8:07 AM

#

retroactive

vapid cape Sep 25, 2018, 8:07 AM

#

Then I'll just check em out on my current file in a bit

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 8:08 AM

#

to put it into perspective i got a hitless sob the first time i fought them

#

while i thought the second phase of the mantis gods was a meme that wasn't meant to be beaten

#

(it's not btw)

vapid cape Sep 25, 2018, 8:09 AM

#

I've never died to SoB myself except a few Radiant goofs and a single one of my early binding runs

#

They're still an awesome fight just not that hard

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 8:10 AM

#

56 has died to them 🙂

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 8:10 AM

#

noot

#

idk what i was doing tbh

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 8:10 AM

#

ok so the bindings mods is like hella broken

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 8:10 AM

#

nice

#

what part

#

do you sink into the floor

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 8:11 AM

#

i have no fuckin idea

#

yeah

#

and i cant pause

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 8:11 AM

#

wtf

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 8:11 AM

#

and i dont take damage

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 8:11 AM

#

wtf^2

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 8:11 AM

#

also i just loaded my save without the mod and now i have 6 lb masks on top of my normal health

#

56 get your shit together

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 8:11 AM

#

ahh

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 8:12 AM

#

actually nvm i have the lb charms

#

but everything else was the mod's fault

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 8:14 AM

#

wtf

#

^3

#

what did you test it on

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 8:14 AM

#

absrad

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 8:14 AM

#

ahh

vapid cape Sep 25, 2018, 8:20 AM

#

http://puu.sh/BADlF/180e4540b6.jpg

This is normal.

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 8:20 AM

#

yes

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 8:20 AM

#

there's an option int he config file if you want the normal arena

vapid cape Sep 25, 2018, 8:20 AM

#

This room is a featureless void.

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 8:20 AM

#

normal arena bad

vapid cape Sep 25, 2018, 8:21 AM

#

Oh, it's supposed to be like this?

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 8:21 AM

#

yeah

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 8:21 AM

#

ye

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 8:21 AM

#

im not quite sure why to be tbh

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 8:21 AM

#

because it looks cool

#

™

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 8:21 AM

#

x

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 8:21 AM

#

u

vapid cape Sep 25, 2018, 8:21 AM

#

I was banking on getting to that bench in the room to the right. If I die, it's all the way back to Dirtmouth.

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 8:21 AM

#

put down a dgate

vapid cape Sep 25, 2018, 8:21 AM

#

Good idea.

#

Wow. According to enemy HP bar, they are REALLY frail.

#

super class cannon-y

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 8:26 AM

#

yes the fight lasts about a minute

vapid cape Sep 25, 2018, 8:36 AM

#

Well, ddark kinda totally cheeses this.

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 8:36 AM

#

that's why you fight them nail only

vapid cape Sep 25, 2018, 8:38 AM

#

Yeah, seeming so. As soon as I slapped on spell twister and shaman stone, they were my bitch.

fiery elk Sep 25, 2018, 9:42 AM

#

is there a boss health bar mod for godmaster?

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 9:42 AM

#

yes

fiery elk Sep 25, 2018, 9:42 AM

#

please share

#

i've been stuck at white defender phase 4 for a long time and i feel like i'm making no progress

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 9:43 AM

#

pins

fiery elk Sep 25, 2018, 9:48 AM

#

thanks

#

not sure if i've got the right thing 😅

#

i tried this https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1MLcAIe93ZcIFDFZKRs_0cz_E1qnbEV1g, it shows up in the game but health bars are nowhere to be found

floral furnace Sep 25, 2018, 9:55 AM

#

There should be an installer to make it easy to well, install mods

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 9:56 AM

#

that's the mod for the 1.2.2.1 version of the game

#

use the installer

fiery elk Sep 25, 2018, 10:06 AM

#

just realized i'm in the wrong chat

#

sorry

high moat Sep 25, 2018, 10:50 AM

#

Seans code comments are killing me

#

//Insert man tapping head

high moat Sep 25, 2018, 11:21 AM

#

But yea, I've failed to convince Sean to do randomizer 3.0, so I'll have to start myself (Hopefully do a terrible job, so he'll have to step in). Where do I start? Is there documentation for the modding api, etc. etc. programmer by trade, but absolutely clueless about Unity.

weary stream Sep 25, 2018, 11:40 AM

#

what will be the randomizer 3.0?

high moat Sep 25, 2018, 11:43 AM

#

Randomizing the dreamers, relics and making stag stations pickups primarily. Probably changes to the progression item placement and with the new changes logic will have to be redone too.

weary stream Sep 25, 2018, 11:45 AM

#

you could randomize boss placement aswell

#

<_<

#

with the other bosses

high moat Sep 25, 2018, 11:46 AM

#

play enemy randomizer for that distGood

weary stream Sep 25, 2018, 12:00 PM

#

thats not the same :< and its a bit bugged anyway

flat forum Sep 25, 2018, 12:08 PM

#

huh?

rain cedar Sep 25, 2018, 12:23 PM

#

Idk why you even want to start over for these changes

#

The framework is fine for this

#

If I'm gonna rewrite anything it would just be requirements.cs since that's very poorly made

#

@high moat

high moat Sep 25, 2018, 12:26 PM

#

Wasn't gonna start over, was 100% gonna piggyback off your work. 3.0 might've been the wrong name.

2.1?

rain cedar Sep 25, 2018, 12:26 PM

#

Oh ok

hazy sentinel Sep 25, 2018, 12:27 PM

#

why are you randomizing dreamers

hollow pier Sep 25, 2018, 12:27 PM

#

fellas what trickass stream key does obs want from me

hazy sentinel Sep 25, 2018, 12:27 PM

#

the twitchass stream key

hollow pier Sep 25, 2018, 12:27 PM

#

but like

#

/ptkyr

rain cedar Sep 25, 2018, 12:27 PM

#

Because once you get every item there's like 20m of same at the end

hollow pier Sep 25, 2018, 12:27 PM

#

or

#

/ptkyr/meme/whatever

hazy sentinel Sep 25, 2018, 12:27 PM

#

some string of numbers in settings or something

high moat Sep 25, 2018, 12:28 PM

#

100% more fun telokhranitel

hollow pier Sep 25, 2018, 12:28 PM

#

who

hazy sentinel Sep 25, 2018, 12:28 PM

#

by dreamers do you mean dream bosses

rain cedar Sep 25, 2018, 12:28 PM

#

Is that the actual phonetic pronunciation?

hazy sentinel Sep 25, 2018, 12:28 PM

#

or just dreamers cause that seems like just a visual change

rain cedar Sep 25, 2018, 12:28 PM

#

It looks nothing like it

hollow pier Sep 25, 2018, 12:28 PM

#

the only part i don't get is the k

weary stream Sep 25, 2018, 12:28 PM

#

@rain cedar i heard you are part of the charming mod, is it right?

hollow pier Sep 25, 2018, 12:28 PM

#

what makes the k

rain cedar Sep 25, 2018, 12:28 PM

#

Yes

hollow pier Sep 25, 2018, 12:29 PM

#

is it just to make it flow

#

does xp make k

high moat Sep 25, 2018, 12:29 PM

#

телохранитель -> л = L, х = K, р = R, h = n, reverse n = i

rain cedar Sep 25, 2018, 12:29 PM

#

What about b?

high moat Sep 25, 2018, 12:29 PM

#

its an accent kind off

#

its a weird one

hazy sentinel Sep 25, 2018, 12:30 PM

#

u mean х = kh

high moat Sep 25, 2018, 12:30 PM

#

rite, its been a while since I read cyrillic

weary stream Sep 25, 2018, 12:30 PM

#

Did you see the minimap mod i posted yesterday?

rain cedar Sep 25, 2018, 12:30 PM

#

Yeah it's much better than the one I threw together

hollow pier Sep 25, 2018, 12:30 PM

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i thought x was just h

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 12:30 PM

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He was there at the time

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But with a different name

weary stream Sep 25, 2018, 12:31 PM

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i'm about to finish, pins are working, i couldnt test grimm flames tho, but they should work

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 12:31 PM

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Nice!

rain cedar Sep 25, 2018, 12:31 PM

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Oh yeah lyfwag was me

weary stream Sep 25, 2018, 12:31 PM

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only thing i need to test is how it works with a new map and when you open stag stations and stuff like that

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 12:31 PM

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gawfyl

hazy sentinel Sep 25, 2018, 12:31 PM

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ur mums gawfyl

rain cedar Sep 25, 2018, 12:31 PM

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ur mum gaw

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 12:32 PM

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U ready for this parry

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No u

high moat Sep 25, 2018, 12:32 PM

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But anyways Sean, where to start? Fill in the requirements.cs?

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 12:32 PM

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hollowdab

rain cedar Sep 25, 2018, 12:32 PM

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You will need new RandomizerAction classes for handling the new pickup types

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Idk how you even want something like randomized stags to work

hollow pier Sep 25, 2018, 12:33 PM

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👀

📎 unknown.png

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 12:33 PM

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Wut u streaming ptk

exotic venture Sep 25, 2018, 12:33 PM

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he's playing splice god

hollow pier Sep 25, 2018, 12:33 PM

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splice

weary stream Sep 25, 2018, 12:33 PM

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oh and about the charming mod, i asked because people said we could merge the minimap with your mod (instead of the one you have right now)

exotic venture Sep 25, 2018, 12:33 PM

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or fool a srcom mod simulator

rain cedar Sep 25, 2018, 12:34 PM

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Yeah just do a pull request for it, I can merge that

high moat Sep 25, 2018, 12:34 PM

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Well without knowing how the system works I dunno. But the idea would be that x pickup changes the stag to an active state.

hollow pier Sep 25, 2018, 12:35 PM

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i actually have no idea what my stream looks like

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 12:35 PM

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That's a PlayerDataBool right?

rain cedar Sep 25, 2018, 12:35 PM

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Would the toll in the stag station be changed to a pickup then?

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 12:35 PM

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One of those in the save files

weary stream Sep 25, 2018, 12:35 PM

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a pull request? whats that

high moat Sep 25, 2018, 12:35 PM

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Nope, they would still function as normal

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 12:35 PM

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Wyv it's when you add changes to other people's codes on github

rain cedar Sep 25, 2018, 12:35 PM

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So you want the toll to be there and a pickup for it?

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 12:36 PM

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And request that they accept it

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Basically

high moat Sep 25, 2018, 12:36 PM

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Yeah ideally

rain cedar Sep 25, 2018, 12:36 PM

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Two ways to activate it? I'm confused here

weary stream Sep 25, 2018, 12:36 PM

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damn, another time github <_<, that page is so confusing, i will do my best tho

high moat Sep 25, 2018, 12:36 PM

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Yeah, it works really well in the Ori randomizer, Teleporters can be pickups or you can activate them if you pass by.

weary stream Sep 25, 2018, 12:36 PM

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i'm testing with a new file for now the stuff

rain cedar Sep 25, 2018, 12:36 PM

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Oh ok I see how this is fun

high moat Sep 25, 2018, 12:37 PM

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yeah they would expand the logic a bit too.

rain cedar Sep 25, 2018, 12:37 PM

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So like you could just get deepnest stag and save a ton of hassle

high moat Sep 25, 2018, 12:37 PM

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yup

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 12:37 PM

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But you would need new pickups, right?

rain cedar Sep 25, 2018, 12:37 PM

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Yeah you'd need to randomize relics or something

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 12:37 PM

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Yeah

rain cedar Sep 25, 2018, 12:37 PM

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For this to work

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 12:37 PM

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Or add drops to some bosses or enemies

high moat Sep 25, 2018, 12:38 PM

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Was also thinking of that Gradow

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 12:38 PM

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That's bad tho

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Because at that point you're actively changing the flow of the game

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Like, no one would fight traitor lord normally

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But if it has a drop...

high moat Sep 25, 2018, 12:39 PM

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Alot of people fight mantis lords. Geo + relic + charm

rain cedar Sep 25, 2018, 12:39 PM

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I mean ideally the white lady would give something random

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So traitor lord isn't useless

high moat Sep 25, 2018, 12:39 PM

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oh traitor lords.

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I mean I can do a longer writeup of my current idea.

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 12:39 PM

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Mantis lords is pretty useful rn

high moat Sep 25, 2018, 12:40 PM

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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Vvfmax1VhJjH9kw_3VjeGNbv3ltFEKDvRYRTc1F9wyE/edit?usp=sharing

Google Docs

Randomizer 3.0

Randomizer 3.0 Brainstorm sheet Elements with (?) are questionable. Add more items to the pool: Relics Keys Pale Ores Godtuner Mask/Vessel Shards Rancid Eggs (?) Grubs (?) Charm notches Note: Currently HK rando is already generally 1+ hour. So in order not have that explod...

rain cedar Sep 25, 2018, 12:40 PM

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But yeah for the stag you'll need a new RandomizerAction

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 12:40 PM

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Wait, so kingsoul pieces are random too, Sean?

rain cedar Sep 25, 2018, 12:40 PM

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Maybe just make it refund you if you pick it up after opening the stag

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And nah gradow

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Ideally they would be

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 12:40 PM

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I see

rain cedar Sep 25, 2018, 12:41 PM

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White palace would of course be like elegy

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Nothing there ever

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 12:41 PM

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zote

high moat Sep 25, 2018, 12:41 PM

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If dreamers where randomized white palace could never be progression anyways

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because Dream nail would no longer be a progression item and all move skills are needed for WP

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 12:42 PM

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Imagine seeing herrah floating in the archives

rain cedar Sep 25, 2018, 12:42 PM

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I don't like the idea of removing a progression item

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There's already so few

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 12:42 PM

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Randomizing dreamers is too good

high moat Sep 25, 2018, 12:42 PM

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Not neccessarily

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sure some seeds will be 15 minutes

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where you get all 3 dreamers

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but some will put dreamers that require DJ and CH

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So the required items for winning are now random too, instead of always being claw, ismas/ch and dream nail

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 12:44 PM

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Where are you putting the dreamers?

high moat Sep 25, 2018, 12:44 PM

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everywhere

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 12:44 PM

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hollowwoke

high moat Sep 25, 2018, 12:44 PM

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probably randomize those first, then build progression around that

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from what I saw in the ori code, that's what they do with the required dungeon keys

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Obviously with dreamers being everywhere, some kind of hint system should be implemented.

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 12:45 PM

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Not needed

high moat Sep 25, 2018, 12:45 PM

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Im not sure what the best way to do that would be

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 12:45 PM

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Map

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Make it show the dreamers locations

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As it already does

high moat Sep 25, 2018, 12:46 PM

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imo knowing it immidiately is not fun

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but maybe get a pin after every 3rd boss killed or smth

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 12:46 PM

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Maybe make it show an area

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So you know there's one in greenpath, but don't know where

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And make it only show it one at a time

high moat Sep 25, 2018, 12:47 PM

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yeah that's what i was thinking too. so lets say with boss version. when you kill the 3rd boss, you get "Monomon: Royal Waterways"

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Randomizing the hints too ofc distGood

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So make randomizerAction class for dreamers, relics and stag station is where to begin? @rain cedar

rain cedar Sep 25, 2018, 12:49 PM

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Relics and dreamers should be fine with what's there

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For stag you need a bit of a combo between the ReplaceShinyWithGeo and whatever else it ends up being

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Since otherwise the stag pickup would just be gone already if you go to it after opening the stag

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 12:51 PM

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Make it so any random enemy can be a dreamer and you have to dnail all of them

high moat Sep 25, 2018, 12:51 PM

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distGust

rain cedar Sep 25, 2018, 12:51 PM

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You'll probably want art for the big popups as well

high moat Sep 25, 2018, 12:51 PM

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Ultimately adding in fun pickups like nail upgrades, triple jumps and etc. is something I'd like to experiment with aswell

rain cedar Sep 25, 2018, 12:51 PM

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Idk where you'll get that

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Assuming you want at least some of these to be big popups

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 12:52 PM

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And at some point the dreamers enemies start glowing

rain cedar Sep 25, 2018, 12:52 PM

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Like dreamers

high moat Sep 25, 2018, 12:52 PM

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the big popups are annoying tbh

rain cedar Sep 25, 2018, 12:53 PM

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It would be pretty easy to make them faster

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That's just about the speed they are in vanilla

high moat Sep 25, 2018, 12:53 PM

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To draw a comparison again, the ori randomizer has kept cutscenes but removed the pickup animation that ori does. Speed = fun.

rain cedar Sep 25, 2018, 12:55 PM

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Could make them able to cancel at any time

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Instead of just after the animation

high moat Sep 25, 2018, 12:56 PM

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Guess a small text popup would be possible too?

rain cedar Sep 25, 2018, 12:57 PM

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I never recreated those, they just come from the pickup fsm

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So you'd have to do that

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Shouldn't be too hard

high moat Sep 25, 2018, 12:57 PM

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aight

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Well I'll probably need more help at some point

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good for now though, thanks

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and let me know if you want to take over hollowwoke

weary stream Sep 25, 2018, 1:07 PM

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moving the dreamer pins is quite easy btw

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 2:01 PM

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wyvern you can send me your code and I'll send the pull request for you, if you'd like

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also, nice pfp btw

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(I'm in compact mode, so hadn't seen it prior to using mobile)

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@hollow pier explain this

📎 42530793_1886748278078117_6130706197428305920_n.png

rain cedar Sep 25, 2018, 2:05 PM

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nut

hollow pier Sep 25, 2018, 2:05 PM

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nut

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 2:05 PM

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nut

trim totem Sep 25, 2018, 2:05 PM

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i like the boy

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 2:05 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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fucking Meltan

hollow pier Sep 25, 2018, 2:06 PM

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nut

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 2:06 PM

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how can they come up with such bad names

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 2:06 PM

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you come up with a better one

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idiot

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 2:06 PM

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Nutmon

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done

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 2:06 PM

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this is not digimon

hollow pier Sep 25, 2018, 2:06 PM

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i don't deal with anything gen7+

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 2:06 PM

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Monnut

hollow pier Sep 25, 2018, 2:06 PM

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it's all garbage

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 2:07 PM

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I stopped at gen 4 boi

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DPPt the ultimate gen

hollow pier Sep 25, 2018, 2:07 PM

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you didn't even see megas

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 2:07 PM

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thats gen 4

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 2:07 PM

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yeah

hollow pier Sep 25, 2018, 2:07 PM

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this tbh

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 2:07 PM

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gen45

hollow pier Sep 25, 2018, 2:07 PM

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gen56

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 2:07 PM

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megas are shit

hollow pier Sep 25, 2018, 2:07 PM

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u

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 2:08 PM

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no megas are fair and balanced

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especially mega rayquaza

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 2:08 PM

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nintendo: how can we milk more cash from Charizard and Mewtwo?
also nintendo: hold my beer

floral furnace Sep 25, 2018, 2:08 PM

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the only good pokemon were after digimon which is to say pokemon is shit

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 2:08 PM

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tbh tho megas are just a way to break the unwritten rule that every pokemon has at most a 3-stage evolution line

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my favorite part about that it's that it's never actually stated that that's a rule

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but they still do it for some reason

hollow pier Sep 25, 2018, 2:09 PM

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does ralts count

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 2:09 PM

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wut

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ralts -> kirlia -> gardevoir | gallade

hollow pier Sep 25, 2018, 2:10 PM

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yes 4 technically

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 2:10 PM

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but it's still 3 stages

rain cedar Sep 25, 2018, 2:10 PM

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I mean if we're doing that

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Eevee

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 2:10 PM

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🅱okemon 🅱ay

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 2:10 PM

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otherwise Eevee is already a counterexample

hollow pier Sep 25, 2018, 2:10 PM

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this

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 2:10 PM

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yeah

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 2:10 PM

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wurmple 5

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stay woke

hollow pier Sep 25, 2018, 2:11 PM

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wurmple greatest mon

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 2:11 PM

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Tl is thallium stay woke

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 2:11 PM

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dustox or kys

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 2:11 PM

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maybe you kys

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 2:11 PM

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it's a moth my dude

trim totem Sep 25, 2018, 2:11 PM

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wait is that the nut

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 2:11 PM

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moths > butterflies

hollow pier Sep 25, 2018, 2:11 PM

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kys you

trim totem Sep 25, 2018, 2:11 PM

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the mythical pokemon

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 2:11 PM

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kys yourself

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 2:11 PM

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yeah Khan

hollow pier Sep 25, 2018, 2:11 PM

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i kys

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 2:11 PM

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Cd is cadmium

trim totem Sep 25, 2018, 2:11 PM

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w h y

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 2:11 PM

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💿

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 2:11 PM

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K is potassium

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 2:12 PM

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it's'd signature move is Nut All Over The Opponent's Team

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it's always super effective

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and OHKO

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 2:12 PM

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Te is Tellurium

hollow pier Sep 25, 2018, 2:12 PM

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its

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 2:12 PM

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Berylium is Be right

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noot

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 2:12 PM

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wtf is "it's'd"

floral furnace Sep 25, 2018, 2:12 PM

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Wait whats so big about this nut pokemon

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 2:12 PM

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I think so

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 2:12 PM

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haha yes

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 2:12 PM

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dlk, ptk tried to correct me

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so I made it correct

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 2:13 PM

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I have a quiz on this in twenty minutes send help

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 2:13 PM

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Ok

hollow pier Sep 25, 2018, 2:13 PM

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the table is free

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 2:13 PM

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ttacco it's a new pokemon

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and it's shite (no surprise)

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 2:13 PM

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yeah I started studying on the bus and I've got it down pretty well

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 2:13 PM

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just pass the test lol

floral furnace Sep 25, 2018, 2:13 PM

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Yeah i mean, whats the big deal about a new pokemon, no like im not mocking it is it an ultra rare thing that ties to the grand POKEMON LORE or something

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 2:13 PM

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just cdash

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 2:13 PM

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possibly

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tis void

trim totem Sep 25, 2018, 2:14 PM

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56 why are you listing elements

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 2:14 PM

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cause I have a test on it

trim totem Sep 25, 2018, 2:14 PM

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did you have to memorize the periodic table

floral furnace Sep 25, 2018, 2:14 PM

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chemistry lame

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uuhh i mean its ok i guess

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 2:14 PM

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what is Mg 56?

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 2:15 PM

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Magnesium

trim totem Sep 25, 2018, 2:15 PM

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what is os

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 2:15 PM

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he really got u there

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 2:15 PM

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what is UrMum 56?

hollow pier Sep 25, 2018, 2:15 PM

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what is gz

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 2:15 PM

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Osmium

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 2:15 PM

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grey zote

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 2:15 PM

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ok bye

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elderbug

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 2:15 PM

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bye

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glhf

trim totem Sep 25, 2018, 2:15 PM

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did you actually have to memorize it lmao

hollow pier Sep 25, 2018, 2:15 PM

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wait do you need like moscovium etc

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 2:16 PM

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eww no

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 2:16 PM

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moscovium is the thing in russia lol you dont know geography

trim totem Sep 25, 2018, 2:16 PM

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what about mass

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 2:16 PM

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Seaborgium tbh

trim totem Sep 25, 2018, 2:16 PM

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no get back here

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 2:16 PM

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just symbols and not all of them

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 2:16 PM

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sounds like a digimon name

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 2:16 PM

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like 70 of them

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 2:16 PM

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Seaborgmon

trim totem Sep 25, 2018, 2:16 PM

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but

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why

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 2:16 PM

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because chem

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noot

hollow pier Sep 25, 2018, 2:17 PM

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i thought everyone had to do this

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 2:17 PM

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^

trim totem Sep 25, 2018, 2:17 PM

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that's literally completely pointless

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 2:17 PM

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I didn't

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 2:17 PM

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wtf

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 2:17 PM

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I memorized some of it for fun back then

trim totem Sep 25, 2018, 2:17 PM

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wait

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oh wait

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 2:17 PM

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but it was never required

copper nacelle Sep 25, 2018, 2:17 PM

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ok bye v2

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elderbug

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 2:17 PM

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byev2

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elderbug v2

floral furnace Sep 25, 2018, 2:17 PM

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elderbug

trim totem Sep 25, 2018, 2:17 PM

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just the names makes sense actually

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 2:17 PM

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elderbug

trim totem Sep 25, 2018, 2:18 PM

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they're not on some tables

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 2:18 PM

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wait point is there to remembering random names tho?

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it makes more sense to memorize names + origin/applications/properties

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just the names... It's meaningless

hollow pier Sep 25, 2018, 2:19 PM

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so you can say all of them and look intelligent

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 2:19 PM

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^

hollow pier Sep 25, 2018, 2:19 PM

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look at this

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 2:19 PM

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that's why I did it tbh

hollow pier Sep 25, 2018, 2:19 PM

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hydrogen

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oh shit 200iq already

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watch

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helium

floral furnace Sep 25, 2018, 2:19 PM

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holy shit ptk i didnt know you were omega smart

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 2:19 PM

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wait wait

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what about

hollow pier Sep 25, 2018, 2:19 PM

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yeah it took years

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 2:19 PM

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Carbon

hollow pier Sep 25, 2018, 2:20 PM

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woah woah dude you can't just skip like 68 elements

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 2:20 PM

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noot

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isn't carbon like 16 or smth?

hollow pier Sep 25, 2018, 2:20 PM

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no like 6

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 2:20 PM

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~~like 56~~

hollow pier Sep 25, 2018, 2:20 PM

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dungo

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 2:20 PM

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o rite

cunning lagoon Sep 25, 2018, 2:20 PM

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damn gradow isnt as smart as i thought he was

solemn rivet Sep 25, 2018, 2:20 PM

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m8, I haven't touched a periodic table in more than 10 years