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hollow pier
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bye

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wait i had it

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?rank racer

autumn shardBOT
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@hollow pier, you joined Racer.

copper nacelle
buoyant obsidian
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if anyone is at the Big E and wants to meet the legendary 753 now is your chance

silk jetty
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path of pain should have a pure vessel fight at the end

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somebody make a mod for that

silk jetty
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oh god the enemy rando takes so long to load up

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just because it goes to every room in the game

copper nacelle
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e

exotic venture
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h

vagrant leaf
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h

compact sedge
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if there's a category I wanna race it's rando with blackmoth on a seed that gives you grubberfly for FotF.

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esp since grubberfly doesn't go through walls anymore

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and to mys I will say. I will do this in the future. But I'm never doing anything that takes 4.5 hours IRL time without any breaks ever again.

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NEVER

cunning lagoon
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i took a bathroom break at like the 2h mark

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well worth the timeloss imo

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i was gonna die

compact sedge
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I was in a random uni conference room so I couldn't leave my computer alone

hollow pier
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i took one after uumuu

compact sedge
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without risking it being taken

exotic venture
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then too bad

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it looks like i will pick the next seed

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and i still have tricks up my sleeve

cunning lagoon
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honestly if it's like this one i'm down for it

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i loved it as much as i hated it

exotic venture
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well balanced seed

hollow pier
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there's no seed unless you mean the after dark race

cunning lagoon
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oh ok i didnt know this was the last rando we were gonna play

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ever

exotic venture
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oh so the other one isn't bingo rando?

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sad!

cunning lagoon
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but there will eventually be another rando race ๐Ÿค”

exotic venture
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well i can't pick the after dark one

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since i will most likely be participating

young walrus
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we don't need a picked seed

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it's better if we dont

cunning lagoon
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fair

exotic venture
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true, true

hollow pier
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@ 56 actually fix qol before the next race thanks

exotic venture
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it's better if it's truly randomized

young walrus
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probably better with rando bingo if it's not picked. and if we do teams, we'll have communication anyways

compact sedge
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I mean inventory drop worked in qol

exotic venture
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aye

compact sedge
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I only tested it once

young walrus
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which beats a random one anyways

exotic venture
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do teams have the same seed?

young walrus
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yes

compact sedge
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in the one place I know you can drop safely

cunning lagoon
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AA beat time without menu drops GWfroggyPoggers

exotic venture
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ahh that's good

young walrus
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everyone has same seed

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and same bingo board

exotic venture
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neat

compact sedge
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I dropped outside dirtmouth

exotic venture
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lmao nice

young walrus
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I was dropping all over the race

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so it was working

compact sedge
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it's cool and fast but I forgot about it after the 30 minute mark

exotic venture
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yeah i tested it when i ran some test randos

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it just works

hollow pier
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no dreamer cutscene skip

exotic venture
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yeah that was p sad

compact sedge
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QoL should instakill the dreamers after you dreamnail them

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since it's just downtime anyway

cunning lagoon
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pressing the nail button at the right time takes skill

hollow pier
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this tbh

compact sedge
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couldn't you just turbo button it?

cunning lagoon
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?

compact sedge
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I didn't but if I race again I'm setting the back bumper buttons to turbo nail and turbo dash respectively

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it's a thing in the controller config for the steam controller. or I guess for other gamepads too

cunning lagoon
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oh i see

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yeah we kb players dont have access to that

compact sedge
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you hold it down and it rapidfire mashes it as fast as possible

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uh

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I mean autohotkey I guess unless that's banned

cunning lagoon
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ofc its banned lol

compact sedge
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idk the rules for pc games

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but

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usually what people who play on kbm do is they make the scroll wheel do the button they want to be turbo mashed

cunning lagoon
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so would be the turbo button

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i imagine

compact sedge
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and then they scroll up on a mouse that has frictionless scrolling

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and it's basically the same thing

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that's how people jump in HL2

exotic venture
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haha yes

cunning lagoon
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for the most part 3rd party stuff and scripts are banned

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in games

compact sedge
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but the steam controller config isn't third party hollowwoke

cunning lagoon
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is what they do in hl2 just rebinding keys?

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yeah idk

compact sedge
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unless ur banning people remapping their controls period

exotic venture
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i totally did not get this mouse for the weighted frictionless scrolling

compact sedge
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yeah hl2 people rebind keys and buy mice that act as turbo buttons

exotic venture
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haha what are you talking about

compact sedge
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even if you ban turbo button steam controller using the default thing you can turn the dpad friction to 0 and use the dpad the same way scroll wheels are used

cunning lagoon
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well then if u use that u gay

compact sedge
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0 skill dreamer kills use here we come

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also I gotta try this in exaltation

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this is basically the only good use of the back bumpers on steam controllers anyway

cunning lagoon
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11 might be possible but idk how

compact sedge
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take sharp shadow for easy extra hit

cunning lagoon
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i wouldn't count that

weary oyster
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you totally could have done the first hit from the right a bit earlier

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also good thing to know, if you turn around after a slash you can djump immediately instead of having the weird delay

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@cunning lagoon

cunning lagoon
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wait im not sure what you ean

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like you slash then turn around then jump?

weary oyster
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like when you do a nail slash the game locks you out of djump

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yea

cunning lagoon
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huh

weary oyster
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or you can do a quick turn around and back

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dunno why but it works

cunning lagoon
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lmao thats really nice to know

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thank you

weary oyster
cunning lagoon
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thats soo good

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i might be able to get 11 with this

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actually nvm its lookin unlikely

weary oyster
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totally looks like you could fit in 3 hits on the right side

cunning lagoon
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yea i've been getting hit by the pillar

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so idk about that

compact sedge
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I mean you could probably get 12 in but it might cost you your life

cunning lagoon
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even if i got 3 hits in he would probably teleport away

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give it a try if you want but i don't think i'm gonna be able to get it

weary oyster
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i would but im too busy practicing qga

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for 0 geo

cunning lagoon
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understandable

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lol

floral furnace
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dlk how r u so gud

cunning lagoon
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TTacco why didn't you race

trim totem
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yeah

floral furnace
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cuz 1. the race happened at like 12AM midnight onwards 2. i dont even know a single skip in this goddamn game

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i dont speedrun, i dont even have speedrun 10 hour achievo

cunning lagoon
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lma0 you mean the one you get on your frist playthrough?? nerd

floral furnace
compact sedge
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hey ttacco, I did race and I did it in 4 hours 13 minutes

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and it was miserable I fully regret doing it

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but fun to get a time

floral furnace
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hey at least you were under 5 hours

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id die from watchers tbh

cunning lagoon
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yea you got the 5 hour achievement

compact sedge
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I did die from watchers

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many many times

floral furnace
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oof

cunning lagoon
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which just goes to show how much time you really have to do that

compact sedge
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I lost 20 minutes to dying to watchers

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and I also died to THK once

hazy sentinel
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i did spore shroom baldur shell and wraiths queen's station zote

compact sedge
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and soul guy twice but because he spawned ads that died in 2 hits and when I bought strength he went down super easy

cunning lagoon
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oh yeah now that you mention it

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whats up with the baldur dads in rando

floral furnace
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oh shit did you break fstrength?

cunning lagoon
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they spawn like a billion little baldurs

compact sedge
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no you just get unbreakable strength with rando

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there's no need to upgrade it

floral furnace
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oh yeah it was rando

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who won again

compact sedge
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not me lul

cunning lagoon
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ill give u 1 guess

floral furnace
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give hint

cunning lagoon
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hint: trinomi participated

compact sedge
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hint: not me

floral furnace
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oh so its trinomi GWchadMEGATHINK

cunning lagoon
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oh it might've been him GWchadMEGATHINK

floral furnace
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whats his time

cunning lagoon
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like 1:50 i think

compact sedge
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1:50 RT, something like 1:40 in game time

cunning lagoon
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1:54

compact sedge
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I wanted to get a time better than 3 times the first place

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so I was happy

lusty coral
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Might I ask what a good speedrunning mod is?

cunning lagoon
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you can't use mods when speedrunning

lusty coral
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Timer.

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Bad wording

compact sedge
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I'd recommend debugmod, it lets you cheat

cunning lagoon
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livesplit

hazy sentinel
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angle this is all your fault

lusty coral
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Kk thanks

compact sedge
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there's only one timer mod and that's the shitty one I made yesterday

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otherwise you use livesplit

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like a sane person

tranquil glen
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yeah just use livesplit

lusty coral
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Didnt know if it was a mod or an external source

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Thankyou

tranquil glen
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your run wont be accepted if you use mods

hazy sentinel
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unless all glitches

compact sedge
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but you can use assembly mods to cheat

tranquil glen
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with one exception of all glitches

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yeah

compact sedge
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if you can get away with nobody noticing

lusty coral
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Good, because I have no idea how to install mods to HN GWmythiFeelsBadMan

cunning lagoon
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lma0 fucking hypocrites im gonna report you to the police

tranquil glen
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there's a mod to extend load times thats allowed

floral furnace
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i n s t a l l e r

hazy sentinel
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"""HN"""

cunning lagoon
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yeah Hollow Night

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haven't you played it

hazy sentinel
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no

lusty coral
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No

floral furnace
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tbh thats alot better than Hallow Knight

cunning lagoon
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ok

hazy sentinel
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why else would i die to hornet 2 with shriek shade soul

cunning lagoon
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i didn't find any of the 2 fireballs

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where wer they

hazy sentinel
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i finished with 55% completion zote

compact sedge
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BTW I have a huge confession. I cheated in my run. I installed Unofficial HK Patch which gives me a huge advantage because if I sharp shadow into an enemy and they tink my sharp shadow will continue doing damage so I don't need to quit to menu to fix it.

cunning lagoon
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i forgot to check

tranquil glen
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one was at spell twister

hazy sentinel
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got claw like 3 hours in or something stupid

cunning lagoon
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Ok angle

tranquil glen
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can't remember the other

cunning lagoon
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ahh i see

compact sedge
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(I never got either sharp shadow or shade cloak but just throwing it out there)

cunning lagoon
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thats funny

hazy sentinel
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and then isma and cheart after claw

cunning lagoon
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i was going to sanctum to see if claw was there

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so i just took a small detour to get ss

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so i didnt end up going to sanctum ofc

hazy sentinel
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i just thought no required items would be in basin/abyss zote

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omega think

compact sedge
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I more or less just looked for progression items where they were in their vanilla locations and that lead me to doing the abyss and sanctum and I basically got super lucky because of that

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if I had just tried to find every old optional charm like you're supposed to I would have a much worse time

cunning lagoon
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yea i went to like every useless charm

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glowing womb, deep focus, cdash

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unn

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all of those had trash

hazy sentinel
compact sedge
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I finished with like 40% I think.

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which is crazy low I think

tranquil glen
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I finished with 50

cunning lagoon
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yea thats what i meant

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they did that to me all the time

compact sedge
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also skipping greenpath saved me a TON of time

cunning lagoon
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i just wasnt able to kill them

compact sedge
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because I somehow missed spore shroom and didn't know how to kill the baldurs otherwise

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although apparently there is a way

floral furnace
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Elder Baldurs arent so hard are you kidding me

cunning lagoon
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does that happen in vanilla?

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they usually die pretty quickly so i never noticed

compact sedge
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the randomizer guide says you can get the mothwing cloak item if you have the mothwing cloak, double jump, and shriek

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and I have no idea how

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but it says you can

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with just those 3

hazy sentinel
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angle galaxy brains

compact sedge
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no but really how do you get to greenpath with those

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I have 0 idea

hazy sentinel
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where's the rando guide

cunning lagoon
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fungal would be my best guess

weary oyster
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you can get to gp with spore shroom

compact sedge
cunning lagoon
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i probably should have read this before the race thinkgrub

compact sedge
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without spore shroom i mean, just mothwing, wings, and wraiths

cunning lagoon
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yea i imagine you can just go all the way around

weary oyster
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oh through fungal then thats easy

compact sedge
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you don't even need wraiths

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ok

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makessense

weary oyster
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like through queens station

compact sedge
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For how miserable of a time I had it was super satifying to ascend crystal peak with cloak and wings

cunning lagoon
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also why didnt anyone tell me that there was a "Hollow Knight Randomizer Helper"

compact sedge
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and super annoying to climb CoT because that place requires luring enemies and not just bouncing on spikes

cunning lagoon
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i thought we were all keeping track of stuff in our heads zote

compact sedge
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lul I spent 15 minutes of my run reading the guide

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which I hadn't read in preparation

weary oyster
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ive never used the helper imo that removes the fun part

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of figuring it out

compact sedge
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reading the guide, asking stuff on discord

tranquil glen
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yeah

cunning lagoon
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yeah exactly

compact sedge
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I didn't know about many of the skips I did today

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I did a shade skip and I pogoed to crazy places

cunning lagoon
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yea it was pretty fun figuring everything out on the go

compact sedge
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so I needed a guide or I would have probably been confused

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if there's one thing I wish HK had a level editor for it's creating challenges like rando did

cunning lagoon
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i want a level editor to make pop 2

young walrus
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I want a level editor to make pop 8

hazy sentinel
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pillar nkg at the end and if u dont get 11 hits u die

cunning lagoon
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lmao

compact sedge
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my stipulations is that there's a quick reset time on death and little progress lost and the challenges are really hard.

young walrus
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pop 2-7 were too easy

compact sedge
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like super meatboy levels

cunning lagoon
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i'd just make every dash pixel perfect

compact sedge
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HK vanilla has much too long between attempts to be a good platforming challenge game.

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it needs to be like celeste. instant restart

hazy sentinel
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cover all ground with spikes

compact sedge
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more like thorns

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hope you have grubberfly and blackmoth

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also the camera isn't zoomed out enough for this kind of gameplay

cunning lagoon
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also you fight ngg

hazy sentinel
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@copper nacelle u get p5 done or did u forfeit that too

cunning lagoon
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he died to absrad last phase, sisters of battle and hornet 2

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๐Ÿ˜ƒ

hazy sentinel
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๐Ÿ™‚

vapid cape
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wow what a BAD PLAYER right?

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RNG bullshit fights

cunning lagoon
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yeah in his defense the fights are slot machines and you can't do anything to avoid taking damage

vapid cape
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Everyone who ever won got lucky

cunning lagoon
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yea especially that guy who did p5 all binds

hazy sentinel
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1.75x marmu

cunning lagoon
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all rng

vapid cape
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nah he just glitched the fuck out of the game and cheated I heard

cunning lagoon
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wouldn't be surprised

copper nacelle
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@hazy sentinel I went to sleep

hazy sentinel
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what

cunning lagoon
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@hazy sentinel he went to sleep

hazy sentinel
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what is a sleep schedule lol

floral furnace
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ey angle am i supposed to make the spriterender object global so i can modify it in an update method? i wanna give it a bit of a shake whenever the player moves

cunning lagoon
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ey angle am i supposed to make the spriterender object global so i can modify it in an update method? i wanna give it a bit of a shake whenever the player moves

floral furnace
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dlk omega dungo

copper nacelle
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ey angle am i supposed to make the spriterender object global so i can modify it in an update method? i wanna give it a bit of a shake whenever the player moves

cunning lagoon
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thats what you get for not racing ๐Ÿ˜ก

floral furnace
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56 omegaest dungo

solemn rivet
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eyy just came back

floral furnace
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bitch i dont know how to speedrun

solemn rivet
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who won the race

cunning lagoon
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tri

solemn rivet
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ofc

copper nacelle
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nomi

solemn rivet
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did you guys like dnail location

cunning lagoon
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yea

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claw was the bane of my existence zote

copper nacelle
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Verulamium

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is a real word

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my life is a lie

hazy sentinel
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56 is a real number

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wtf

copper nacelle
hazy sentinel
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proper nouns are fake words cmm

copper nacelle
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can't sorry

hazy sentinel
copper nacelle
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lmao

cunning lagoon
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wtf

rain cedar
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Christopher Larkin - City of Tears

hazy sentinel
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city of tears action

slate owl
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Hey.

warped sinew
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Hello

copper nacelle
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raining chain GWfroggyPoggers

slate owl
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Planning to start modding again. Any major modding changes since like 1 year ago?

weak lodge
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RAINING CHAIN

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ayyy

hollow pier
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is this that map guy

slate owl
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People know me?

weak lodge
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yooo its map guy

hollow pier
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poggers

copper nacelle
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your save editor is god

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was the api a thing when you were modding

solemn rivet
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^

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modding changes...

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there's the api

copper nacelle
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MonoMod hooks

solemn rivet
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monomod hooks

copper nacelle
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allows you to runtime detour any method

slate owl
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The mapping modding tool I had didnt use the API.

copper nacelle
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monomod il manuipulation

weak lodge
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ahhhhh he's back

copper nacelle
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which allows you to modify the IL of a method at runtime

slate owl
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At runtime?

solemn rivet
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there's a pretty good fsm visualizer by nes

slate owl
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That sounds magic.

copper nacelle
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it's based on Mono.Cecil

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it's super sick

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lemme link the readme

solemn rivet
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and a level editor that kinda maybe sorta not really works

weak lodge
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are you here to stay xephGlod

copper nacelle
#
// Let's hook Celeste.Player.GetTrailColor
// Note that we can also -= this (and the IL. manipulation) by using separate methods.
On.Celeste.Player.GetTrailColor += (orig, player, wasDashB) => {
    Console.WriteLine("1 - Hello, World!");

    // Get the "original" color and manipulate it.
    // This step is optional - we can return anything we want.
    // We can also pass anything to the orig method.
    Color color = orig(player, wasDashB);

    // If the player is facing left, display a modified color.
    if (player.Facing == Facings.Left)
        return new Color(0xFF, color.G, color.B, color.A);

    return color;
};

// Or...

IL.Celeste.Player.GetTrailColor += (body, il) => {
    int index = 0;

    // Insert Console.WriteLine(...) at the beginning.
    il.Emit(ref index, OpCodes.Ldstr, "2 - Hello, IL manipulation!");
    il.Emit(ref index, OpCodes.Call, typeof(Console).GetMethod("WriteLine", new Type[] { typeof(string) }));

    // After that, emit an inline delegate call.
    il.EmitDelegateCall(ref index, () => {
        Console.WriteLine("3 - Hello, C# code in IL!");
    });
    
    // There are also many other helpers to f.e. quickly advance to a region or
    // push + invoke any arbitrary delegate accepting any arguments, returning anything.
    // Take a look at the il. autocomplete recommendations.

    // Leave the rest of the method unmodified.
};
solemn rivet
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monomod hooks is prolly the greatest thing

slate owl
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My goal atm is just updating the map with newest DLC content.

copper nacelle
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api is pretty big imo

solemn rivet
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well, yeah

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without api, monomod hooks is useless

slate owl
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Workflow for mapping was rather complicated...

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Anyway, doesn't have to be as efficient.

solemn rivet
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what was your workflow back then?

slate owl
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Dump all the entities in a json file.

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Analyze entities that should be hidden such as fog, lighting effects etc...

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Run a script to hide them.

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Take screenshot.

solemn rivet
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well, nes was making a unity level editor for HK

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so you could just load up each map directly into it and change stuff at will

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but nes is dead

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๐Ÿ‘€

slate owl
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Well, that doesnt look good then...

solemn rivet
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he's disappeared one day

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are you still in touch with him 56?

floral furnace
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his fsm viewer was really fucking great too

solemn rivet
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oh yeah

copper nacelle
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nes is still alive

solemn rivet
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his fsm viewer is bae

slate owl
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Reminds me of like K...something? He just ran away one day and deleted everything.

copper nacelle
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Kein

solemn rivet
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KZ

rain cedar
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ee

copper nacelle
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ee

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eeeeee

warped sinew
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.... Oh voldermort?

solemn rivet
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yup

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nah, nes is fine

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he doesn't hate us

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it's probably irl issues

slate owl
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Never understood what happened with Kein.

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Anyway...

solemn rivet
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no one did

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to this day

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I think he's in the iconoclasts server too

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or maybe it was celeste?

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one of those two

rain cedar
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He's in iconoclasts

solemn rivet
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but yeah, those are basically the changes

slate owl
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So mod creation is done in Visual Studio directly?

solemn rivet
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yup

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just make a dll that inherits from Mod and boom you got a mod

slate owl
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Well, that's more convenient than before XD

solemn rivet
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hell yeah

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and makes it so you can use multiple mods at once

slate owl
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Is https://github.com/seanpr96/HollowKnight.Modding/tree/master/ExampleMods/Source/ExampleMod1 still a good template?

solemn rivet
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I think so, yeah

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you do need to reference the modding api tho, not sure if that's obvious

slate owl
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Havent done C# coding in a long time...

compact sedge
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@floral furnace to shake it move the gameobject around by editing its localposition variable

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then just set the localposition back to 0, 0, -0.0001 when you are down

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so you can do SpriteRenderer.transform.localPosition

floral furnace
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Yeah i was trying to do something stupid like this

if (fluctuateUp)
            {
                gunSpriteGO.transform.localPosition -= new Vector3(0, -Time.deltaTime, 0);

                if (gunSpriteGO.transform.localPosition.y <= -1f)
                {
                    fluctuateUp = false;
                }
            }
            else if (!fluctuateUp)
            {
                gunSpriteGO.transform.localPosition += new Vector3(0, Time.deltaTime, 0);

                if (gunSpriteGO.transform.localPosition.y >= -0.83f)
                {
                    fluctuateUp = true;
                }
            }
weak lodge
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angle

compact sedge
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start a coroutine to move it around every frame maybe?

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yes?

floral furnace
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yeah i should

weak lodge
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what did you do when porting ngg to infinigrimm?

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you named al the shit meme trash hollowwow

compact sedge
#

more or less copied the code, changed a few things to get it working on lifeblood, and then reworked some sections to make it not laggy af.

#

because ngg is a meme trash boss that's unfun and poorly designed and concieved

weak lodge
#

xd

#

see you nibbugs later xephHi

floral furnace
weak lodge
#

๐Ÿ˜ฉ

vapid cape
#

I'm gonna be fighting it later because idk I feel I ought to to prove I'm pathetic enough to put up with it

compact sedge
#

I'd urge against fighting the original one because it's v laggy

vapid cape
#

I got Infinite Grimm and am going to be fighting it there

compact sedge
#

kk

#

glhf

trim totem
#

milky pls

cunning lagoon
#

if you really want to learn ngg

#

i'd recommend getting the first phase down

#

then not playing the second phase

#

it's not worth the effort

copper nacelle
#

the first phase is actually really fun

cunning lagoon
#

yes the first phase is good

copper nacelle
#

the second phase is boring as fuck and cancer

floral furnace
#

i mean, if you hate yourself enough anything is worth it tbh

trim totem
#

gid gut xdxdxd

vapid cape
#

I still don't know anything about it, so try not to spoil me too much

cunning lagoon
#

sure

vapid cape
#

I just know it exists and it's fucked up. I also know spikes are always present in phase 1, but I know no other changes or what phase 2 does at all

#

I'm gonna find out on the fly

cunning lagoon
#

sure

#

have fun

warped sinew
#

I wouldn't call the second phase boring, but cancer is a good description

cunning lagoon
#

yea i dont think its boring but its so cancer

#

i dont like it

copper nacelle
#

i was doing it for like 2 hours

#

to get a okish infinite ngg score

#

during that at least it became super boring super fast

cunning lagoon
#

btw graig i've been trying to get more efficient at killing nkg lately

#

do you happen to know

warped sinew
#

Oh nice what score did you get?

cunning lagoon
#

how many hits max can you get on the pillars

copper nacelle
#

like 1100

#

i think

cunning lagoon
#

i got up to 10 but i think 11 might be possible?

copper nacelle
#

i ended up beating it w/ phase 1

#

which i got like 1200 on

#

was more fun than the 1100 p2 too

drifting light
#

So Pure God is happening or is hard enough for modders?

compact sedge
#

I mean you could make it

copper nacelle
#

i'm making it

#

begone

warped sinew
#

I get about 8 but that's with a laggy start. If I'm onto him right away about 9-10. Yeah 11 probably is possible. Do you use steady body?

compact sedge
#

๐Ÿgone

cunning lagoon
#

yea im using sb and qs

copper nacelle
#

sb DansGame

#

i can't stand steady body

warped sinew
#

Yeah it helps a lot

cunning lagoon
#

if 11 is possible its hella tight

hollow pier
#

but is it tighter than 5 hit saw cycle

cunning lagoon
#

yes

#

and tighter than 4 hits on the divekick

warped sinew
#

I havent played IG in so long, I think I will play some tonight. Its just so much fun

cunning lagoon
#

yea i wish more people played IG

#

we need the competition

copper nacelle
#

play lost lord

#

i mean what

hollow pier
#

are you just trying to get 250k in less than 5 hours now

cunning lagoon
#

no i just want to be better at the fight

#

and optimize it

vapid cape
#

I'm getting there. I Still kinda early game, but 2 days tops and I'll be up to NKG level

#

I don't have a file on hand because I'm a moron and threw my only non-godseeker file out weeks ago because I forgot normal radiance is SS permadeath and I suicided to her while checking HP values.

cunning lagoon
#

check the pins

#

there's a savefile there

hollow pier
#

i can sauce 112

#

or my 105 at pop

vapid cape
#

Ehhhh I wanna work back up the long way tbh. Enjoy a casual playthrough again

cunning lagoon
#

fair

hollow pier
#

play lightbringer

warped sinew
#

Do you double jump and get 4 hits on Grimm at the start of the piller? I think that's how I was doing it by the end

trim totem
#

infinite absrad

cunning lagoon
#

uhh i dont remember

#

one sec

warped sinew
#

Or just dash thru him?

cunning lagoon
warped sinew
#

Lol I can't remember how I was doing it

#

Yeah I was like double jumping and you get like 4 hit on the way down, land then upslash then jump and hit hit dash hit. Basically what you did

cunning lagoon
#

i'm honestly not sure where to fit in an 11th hit

warped sinew
#

Not sure if the double jump is better tho cos the ground dash gets you there faster

#

Hmmmm

#

Try doing a double jump and go for 4 maybe even 5 hits at the start??

#

Might work

hollow pier
#

there's a tiny bit of downtime between upslash part and getting back up

cunning lagoon
#

either way im happy with 10 hits and its very very consistent but id loove to get 11

warped sinew
#

Yeah honestly consistent is key anyway

cunning lagoon
#

yea i see what you mean with the double jump

#

that sounds good

hollow pier
#

Yeah, I watched that pillar. Itโ€™s insane! But I can see it going higher, maybe 11 with a TAS

cunning lagoon
#

lmao

warped sinew
#

Sharpshadow gives an extra hit lul

cunning lagoon
floral furnace
hollow pier
#

i see the repurpose of spinfinite

#

very nice

copper nacelle
#

that actually looks sick

trim totem
#

i don't understand

hollow pier
cunning lagoon
#

that title

trim totem
#

interesting title

hollow pier
young walrus
cunning lagoon
#

is this loss

flat forum
#

Jein

copper nacelle
hollow pier
#

why is this one 7kb smaller

cunning lagoon
#

thinn

copper nacelle
#

cause i killed dream respawner

flat forum
#

Why kill Dream Respawner

#

when you can kill me instead

cunning lagoon
hollow pier
#

i fixed it check again

cunning lagoon
#

lmao

warped sinew
#

@cunning lagoon show me 4 hit nkg dive

#

i wanna seeee it

#

im about to de rust and play some IG ๐Ÿ˜‰

cunning lagoon
#

im not sure if it works in IG

warped sinew
#

ok thats what i thought it would be. cool

cunning lagoon
#

if the dive is faster it will probably be harder

warped sinew
#

ill try it out

cunning lagoon
#

sweet

warped sinew
#

would hit hit pogo dive be better?

cunning lagoon
#

hmm yeah you'd prob do more damage that way

warped sinew
#

three hits give enough soul so its a true combo

cunning lagoon
#

well idk bc if you are playing one hit you do 56 damage per swing

#

and he might not take the full dive damage

#

so im not sure

warped sinew
#

yeah ill try it

#

execution is easier as you are already holding down from the pogo

#

actually dive will do less because no shaman stone i think

#

fury nail is better

cunning lagoon
#

yea without shaman you are probably better off just hitting him

#

and you build up more soul

warped sinew
#

should i be using the mod installer?

#

cos i just do this shit manually

#

but is it way faster the other way?

#

ive never used it

copper nacelle
#

installer is faster

warped sinew
#

ok ill try it out

rain cedar
warped sinew
#

ummm this instaler is the best thing ever

cunning lagoon
#

@solemn rivet is this u

warped sinew
#

hmm whats QoL do?

#

sounds good

copper nacelle
#

quality of life changes

rain cedar
#

Random stuff like adding back inventory drop

novel dagger
#

Quality of Life right

warped sinew
#

man there are so many mods i didnt know about

copper nacelle
#

wait don't use the qol on the installer if you're doing inf grimm

warped sinew
#

i wont

copper nacelle
#

i accidentally included dream respawner and i had never finished the infinite grimm integration for it

warped sinew
#

will combos work with IG?

copper nacelle
#

should

warped sinew
#

ok i got invert knight (fuck yes) combos, hp bar and IG. Tho i dont need HP bar at all now that i think about it

cunning lagoon
#

haha invertknight is hilarious

#

bonus points if you equip sprintmaster

#

it swaps back to the normal colours when you run and it inverts you when you jump or stand still

warped sinew
#

hahahhahaha

copper nacelle
#

i need to make a color swap mod

copper nacelle
#

eeee

cunning lagoon
#

"should i go for the heal meme"

  • famous last words
rain cedar
#

Should've gone for the heal meme

copper nacelle
#

tfw abs rad radiant but no p5

wanton hawk
#

Mod Idea
Slap mod
Removes all nails from the game. You can only slap.

copper nacelle
#

no

rain cedar
#

u

heavy sinew
#

Would like to see that

wanton hawk
#

It also makes a loud, painful slap noise when you hit something.

rain cedar
#

It's gonna make a loud, painful slap noise when I hit you

wanton hawk
#

GWfroggyZoomeyes Whoa there partner

rain cedar
floral furnace
#

real shit wheres this emoji from i need it

copper nacelle
warped sinew
#

man all these mods... whats chaos mode???

floral furnace
#

thanks

warped sinew
#

player data tracker??

copper nacelle
#

player data tracker is the rando obs overlay thing

#

chaos mode is uhh

warped sinew
#

ahhh thats cool

rain cedar
warped sinew
#

thanks for the list

cunning lagoon
#

Ttacco is your name pronounced T taco, Taco, Tac co or T tac co

floral furnace
#

uhhh, Ta-co, Tee-Ta-Coh, Tey-Tha-Co, Theta-Co GWchadMEGATHINK

#

why

rain cedar
#

It's pronounced Kolonel Kovalsky

floral furnace
#

^

cunning lagoon
#

Bit taco is difderent than tee ta co

floral furnace
#

i mean isnt johnathan sometimes just called john

cunning lagoon
#

Am on phone so forgive spelling errora

floral furnace
#

ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

#

ew discord mobile

cunning lagoon
#

Same

#

So if i pronounxe it Taco like the food am i doing it right

floral furnace
#

I guess so yes?

cunning lagoon
#

Ok

copper nacelle
#

but t-taco is also right, right?

floral furnace
#

yeah

cunning lagoon
#

That Cant be the case

floral furnace
#

why are we even talking about this

#

:thik

#

im not fixing that

cunning lagoon
#

Onebof them must bebwrong

copper nacelle
#

because i say t-taco and kurosh says taco

floral furnace
#

understandable

cunning lagoon
#

So who is โžก

#

You have reacted to my message but i haven't gotten an answer

#

I feel offended by that

floral furnace
#

what question

#

no like seriously what question

cunning lagoon
#

Who is right

floral furnace
#

oh

flat forum
#

Kolonel Kovalsky

floral furnace
#

i mean, arent we ALL right ๐Ÿค”

flat forum
#

KKolonel Kovalssky

cunning lagoon
#

No

#

Either I am wrong or 56 is wrong

flat forum
#

the truth is always in the middle

cunning lagoon
#

But i know in not wrong i just need you to confirmรณ it

flat forum
#

you are both wrong,I am right

copper nacelle
cunning lagoon
#

Fucking autocorrect

flat forum
#

confirmรณ

floral furnace
#

technically youre both right but just because i can ill say dlk is wrong

cunning lagoon
#

Its staying like that

#

technically youre both right but just because i can ill say dlk is wrong

floral furnace
#

commit cease existeaeaance tyvm

copper nacelle
#

commit cease existeaeaance tyvm

fossil oxide
#

commit cease existeaeaance tyvm

cunning lagoon
#

commit cease existeaeaance tyvm

flat forum
#

commit be very loved and valued by Papers

cunning lagoon
#

I love You toรณ Papers

#

Ok why did autocorrect put the thing tjtere

flat forum
#

tjtere

cunning lagoon
#

Its not even a word

wary drift
#

hi

#

anyone know an easy video game making tool?

rain cedar
#

I mean this game was made by two non-programmers in unity

#

Unity has a lot of problems but accessibility isn't one of them

wary drift
#

soo...

#

I can somewhat easily use the free version of unity to make a simple game

rain cedar
#

Probably

wary drift
#

What about clickteam

#

or is that more suited for app games?

rain cedar
#

I guess you could use that

#

Freedom planet was made in it so it's not impossible to use it well

#

Don't know of any other non-garbage games that used it, though

wary drift
#

well...

#

I heard fnaf was made with it

#

ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

rain cedar
#

Yeah

#

Like I said

#

I don't know of any other non-garbage games

wary drift
#

Itโ€™s not like fang is garbage ๐Ÿ˜›

#

Fnaf

#

Itโ€™s the community

#

And continuous games

rain cedar
#

It's like the definition of shovelware

frigid gale
#

What you guys doin

flat forum
wary drift
solemn rivet
#

Glad you like the installer @warped sinew !

hollow pier
#

Gradow!

floral furnace
#

GradOwO!

weak lodge
#

Thou cringer!

#

Excuse me sir

#

Is that light theme

tranquil glen
#

Excuse you Sean, the worlds greatest game, Clash of The Frog Vikings was made in clickteam

hollow pier
#

google doesn't even know what that is

rain cedar
#

Sorry my mistake

tranquil glen
#

I made it pt, its an amazing game

#

Probably the best the world has seen

floral furnace
#

GOAT edition when?

tranquil glen
#

I don't think I have the game anymore tbh

#

Made it a few years ago

floral furnace
#

Oof, what was it tho

#

3rd person horror survival beat em up battle royale metroid souls like game?

tranquil glen
#

There were frogs holding swords and you could pick your color, and then you chose an angle to launch at, a spin speed, and a jump power, and then once you had all locked in you all jumped at each other with said variables, repeat until one frog remains

#

Oh i think you had shields too actually

floral furnace
#

Sounds really neat tbh, but why the frogs

tranquil glen
#

The name was randomly generated and then i built a game in 3 hours based on it

solemn rivet
#

Nice

hollow pier
hazy sentinel
#

Thanks! โค

compact sedge
#

modding

weak lodge
#

how did kurosh git so gud tbh absolute madlad

compact sedge
#

guy's a madlad just gotta say

#

yeah

#

esp getting 11 hits on NKG fire pillars

#

My record for those is...6

#

and I've only done it once

hazy sentinel
#

u ever try QS MoP

native wing
#

you di

cunning lagoon
#

what can i say

#

im just the best

#

๐Ÿ˜Ž

#

also i didnt get 11 i got 10

hazy sentinel
#

sharp shadow ez intenseface

cunning lagoon
#

3 shrieks ez 12 hits

native wing
#

sharp shado

weary oyster
hazy sentinel
#

skurry abusing greenpath squit

cunning lagoon
#

ruthless

#

this man's voice is perfect

rain cedar
#

It's ok

cunning lagoon
#

you are ok at best

rain cedar
#

Thank you

exotic venture
#

what is there to say about this?

#

brutal, savage, rekt

rain cedar
#

nippy

#

kind

#

langur

civic moon
#

Hmm

#

What does exactly the charm notch mod?

wintry rune
#

guys stop blowing my cover

copper nacelle
solemn rivet
#

AA: I'll race you anyday to make up for making you run in my stead

cunning lagoon
#

Gradow: You suck lol

#

ybham did you beat p5

solemn rivet
#

y u so mean dlk

hazy sentinel
#

u mean ybham6

solemn rivet
#

also why tf u calling 56 by his name

cunning lagoon
#

bc thats his reddit account

solemn rivet
#

that's heresy

cunning lagoon
#

i find it funny

copper nacelle
#

idk CiroGC99

cunning lagoon
#

i fucking die

#

did you beat it or no

copper nacelle
#

no I've been asleep

#

slept from end of stream - 2

cunning lagoon
#

how

#

dont you have class

copper nacelle
#

2-3 was awake

#

3-6 was asleep again

#

no it's Sunday

hazy sentinel
#

sunday school

cunning lagoon
#

ah thats right

hazy sentinel
cunning lagoon
#

what even is that

exotic venture
#

gplus

#

wow

native wing
#

fukin

cunning lagoon
#

oh lol

native wing
#

haha am remebering google plus now

#

hahs there was sans skeleton

cunning lagoon
#

sans from undertale?

hollow pier
#

friendly reminder that awalys still hasn't accepted my hangouts request

native wing
#

holy shit what is that naem

copper nacelle
#

11043753891211241552174222332611

compact sedge
#

@solemn rivet I don't wanna race on that seed :((((

hazy sentinel
compact sedge
#

ever again

cunning lagoon
#

well after you beat a seed usually you don't play that again

#

it kinda defeats the purpose

solemn rivet
#

yeah

hazy sentinel
#

isn't speedrunning vanilla like racing the same seed

hollow pier
#

really makes you think

cunning lagoon
#

no bc there's rng

native wing
#

oblobbles technically has veru little rng

#

but when you play it it feels like AAAAAAAAAA

hazy sentinel
#

what is your first language

native wing
#

engrish

copper nacelle
#

how do you define veru as an adverb

hazy sentinel
#

lo verily

native wing
#

lover ily

#

๐Ÿ‘€

#

holyshit the eyes look down for a millisecond

hazy sentinel
#

skurryLookDown

cunning lagoon
#

mantis pogo is harder than qga dont bother changing my mind bc i know im right

native wing
#

mmm ye

exotic venture
#

hi do you want me to pick a seed for you two to pit it out, AA and Gradow?

hazy sentinel
#

51730298

native wing
#

why does the note say 1:05,

cunning lagoon
copper nacelle
#

nice

cunning lagoon
#

is this guy a 400iq shitposter

native wing
#

verulean is

leaden hedge
#

Not even 420iq

#

Do you even blaze, bruh

native wing
#

ew

#

very low, you have stooped

leaden hedge
#

I started this low

#

If anything this is my peak

native wing
#

performance

#

aight memeing end send me pics of your best enemy randomizer moments thx

leaden hedge
#

No

native wing
#

bbut

#

why not

copper nacelle
#

because his magnum dong may never be complete

cunning lagoon
#

ill give u my m,agnum DONG xD

leaden hedge
#

Stop hoarding the magnum dong

#

Mum said its my turn on the magnum dong

native wing
#

stop memeing or ill ban benbo

cunning lagoon
#

@ mods

copper nacelle
#

@ mods can we get a delet on the ping above

cunning lagoon
#

@ modders can we get 56 to beat p5 already

vapid cape
#

What's the Darkness mod? It has no readme.

compact sedge
#

I'll say what I've said before. it makes the game fucking unplayable

#

you should install it just to see how insane it is

#

(specifically it makes every room a dark room)

trim totem
#

ban 56 if he doesn't download beta

copper nacelle
#

never

#

no beta

cunning lagoon
#

ban 56 if he downloads beta imo

urban olive
#

56 didnโ€™t beat P5?

cunning lagoon
#

no

#

do you want me to list all the bosses he died to

copper nacelle
#

I have abs rad radiant but no p5 noot

trim totem
#

he needs to learn a lesson

cunning lagoon
#

it's a long list

vapid cape
#

Oh, so it's a shitpost mod. Got it.

#

I added Lost Lord to my playthrough as well.

copper nacelle
#

add mantis gods too kthx

cunning lagoon
#

never forget

leaden hedge
#

Darkmod is playable, I beat the game with it intenseface

#

In fact its optimal playability

vapid cape
#

Blindfold binding

cunning lagoon
native wing
#

by deleting the game

hollow pier
#

oh that's really common tbh

cunning lagoon
#

is there anything i can do to avoid it

hollow pier
#

i see it like every other run people do

#

no it's rng

cunning lagoon
#

hella lame

hollow pier
#

and when it happens the same knight will always do that

#

on every bounce

#

at least i think

native wing
#

its not rng its luck

#

veru doesnt plae dice

tranquil glen
compact sedge
#

ok I'm just throwing this out there as an idea for a mod. I might make it but idk I'm kinda lazy recently. A mod where when you press a button all the gameobjects with active FSMS have their names, FSM names, and active states printed out.

#

like just printed to the modlog

hollow pier
#

no it just connects to your printer and prints every fsm

compact sedge
#

how much paper would the knight take?

cunning lagoon
#

3 paper

copper nacelle
#

@compact sedge

var hhhh = new Dictionary<GameObject,  List<PlayMakerFSM>>();
foreach(PlayMakerFSM hhh in UnityEngine.Object.FindObjectOfType<PlayMakerFSM>())
{
   var hh = hhh.gameObject;
    if (!hhhh.ContainsKey(hh))
        hhhh[hh] = new List<PlayMakerFSM>();
    hhhh[hh].Add(hhh);
}

foreach (var hhh in hhhh)
{
    foreach(var hh in hhh)
    {
          Log($"{hhh.name}: {hh.FsmName}: {hh.ActiveStateName}"
    }
}
compact sedge
#

hmmmmm

#

nice var names

copper nacelle
#

thanks i worked hard on them

solemn rivet
#

where's the single h tho

copper nacelle
#

i could set one to the Fsm of hh but that'd require reflection and just make the code worse

cunning lagoon
#

wow i didnt know it could be worse than that

#

๐Ÿคข

copper nacelle
#

shut

#

if that had actual var names it would be ok

warped sinew
#

@solemn rivet the installer is really great. 10/10 the best mod!

solemn rivet
#

thanks Graig!

hazy sentinel
#

Thanks! โค

compact sedge
#

wait ur a speedrunner gradow?

ornate rivet
#

wow thanks graig I totally made it hollowface

cunning lagoon
#

he's not "a speedrunner"

#

he's the best

compact sedge
#

shit u got me

solemn rivet
#

I'm not "a speedrunner", I'm "a speed", runner

warped sinew
#

๐Ÿค”

cunning lagoon
#

he's a speed, "runner"

hazy sentinel
#

ะกะŸะ˜ะ” runner

cunning lagoon
#

CMNA

warped sinew
#

Runman. SPEEDgamer

#

You other NormalGamers wouldn't understand

solemn rivet
#

tbh the installer started as little project between Kerr and I

#

he made a .bat file

cunning lagoon
#

๐Ÿฆ‡

solemn rivet
#

you would drag EnemyRando.dll to it and it would auto-install it

#

and I edited it to accept any mod

#

then it scaled from that to Crossroads and my ModInstaller

compact sedge
#

and then at some point you rewrote it to not be shit

#

meanwhile kerr... uh

#

petted their dog

solemn rivet
#

doggo

#

tbh

compact sedge
#

tbh yeah

solemn rivet
#

dog > internet fame

compact sedge
#

but internet money > dog

#

how's that going for you?

hazy sentinel
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yeah all the money you get from hk modding

vapid cape
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mod installer definitely is awesome

hollow pier
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do modders or verulean's yt get paid more

frigid gale
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lol

hazy sentinel
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modinstaller has early releases of modcommon

vapid cape
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Its bonus utility of serving as a list of mods that still work on the most recent version of the game rules, too.

compact sedge
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mod installer is the only thing with a donation thing so if it's even made 7 cents I think it has outpaced verulean

hazy sentinel
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i still don't know why i have 36 cents in my adsense account

compact sedge
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oh sorry

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if it has even made 37 cents

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excuse me

hollow pier
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get sponsored by squarespace

hazy sentinel
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those weren't from youtube

hollow pier
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get your viewers some 10% off

solemn rivet
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so far I have made 0.00 moneys

compact sedge
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did you deposit a quarter, dime, and penny in your adsense account?

hazy sentinel
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youtube pays every month if you have more than $100 accrued

compact sedge
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so they wouldn't pay you even if you did have ads on probably

copper nacelle
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who updated chaos mode

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oh wait

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nvm

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mfw the installer installs the api while i'm in game

solemn rivet
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well

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it's not possible

hazy sentinel
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it's a feature

solemn rivet
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since the API is in use

copper nacelle
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but it did it

buoyant obsidian
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@compact sedge

solemn rivet
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unless you're not on windows

compact sedge
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hey

copper nacelle
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i'm on windows too

cunning lagoon
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@buoyant obsidian

buoyant obsidian
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you wanted the sound effects right?

compact sedge
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thanks so much

solemn rivet
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weird

copper nacelle
solemn rivet
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it should be able to install mods while running (which crashes the game)

buoyant obsidian
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that's all sound effects under 20 seconds long

copper nacelle
compact sedge
buoyant obsidian
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sorry I didn't send them Friday, something came up

solemn rivet
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but not the api, since it would require overriting a file

compact sedge
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that's fine

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I mean I still need help from 56 to make my cursed af mod

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because unity editor = major dungo

copper nacelle
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e

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i made the asset

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re

compact sedge
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but did you make it with the right version of unity

copper nacelle
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eeee

compact sedge
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since I guess that fuckn matters for some reason

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idk

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like UBAE crashed and HK crashed trying to open it

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fuck knows why

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(also why does gamedev suck so much. there's like no good options imo)

copper nacelle
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tbh wouldn't be surprised if the asset was corrupt

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cause uabe can open 2018 i think

compact sedge
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well if you can make it uncorrupt pls do

copper nacelle
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@cunning lagoon fuck u right

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8 is so free

cunning lagoon
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told u

compact sedge
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(there's unity which is shit. monogame/fna/xna which is obsolete. godot which is uh which has very limited 3d effects but I guess is fine for 2d. Gamemaker which is shit. Unreal which is I have no fuckn idea but I don't like their license very much. and uh what else is there?)

cunning lagoon
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(there's unity which is shit. monogame/fna/xna which is obsolete. godot which is uh which has very limited 3d effects but I guess is fine for 2d. Gamemaker which is shit. Unreal which is I have no fuckn idea but I don't like their license very much. and uh what else is there?)

copper nacelle
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fna is new isn't it?

compact sedge
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fna is just a compiler for monogame/xna it's not an actual engine

copper nacelle
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o

compact sedge
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the best part about monogame games is you gotta rebuild them with fna if you wanna redistribute them on linux or mac or even to consoles like PS4 and xbone

copper nacelle
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u ever dash into pv's fight without changing your charms

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and then have a heart attack

compact sedge
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just uh git gud

copper nacelle
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and then realize you never swapped out your charms from your other pv fight so you're fine

cunning lagoon
copper nacelle
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i lost 6 hp on the last phase