archived-modding-development

[compact sedge]

my PB for hollow knight without rando is 4 hours 9 minutes

[solemn rivet]

it does, PA

[river eagle]

so 3h for me

[exotic venture]

could be 40 minutes if the stars align

[river eagle]

[hollow pier]

but mys chose the seed

[solemn rivet]

also, this is any% nmg, I assume?

[exotic venture]

i played too much rando so i picked well

[hollow pier]

no it bingo

2 lines i think

[solemn rivet]

wait, it's bingo?

[river eagle]

everyone plays with a different seed right?

[exotic venture]

and by well i mean

[solemn rivet]

nice!

[copper nacelle]

how many dark rooms are there in your seed

[solemn rivet]

love bingo

[hollow pier]

wait is it bingo

announcement doesn't say

[copper nacelle]

no

[solemn rivet]

doesn't say anything

Mys help

[hollow pier]

ok so just rando

[exotic venture]

i've chosen so i can still watch people struggle after 7 hours of work

no bingo

any% nmg

[solemn rivet]

ok

[copper nacelle]

ok apparently destroying excerpt doesn't get rid of it

[solemn rivet]

so just get claw and you're gud

got it

[exotic venture]

good luck finding it

[hollow pier]

dnail to be tbh

[solemn rivet]

oh no mys

[exotic venture]

good

fucking luck

[river eagle]

so everyone plays with a different seed? Or?

[solemn rivet]

did you put claw at djump

[hollow pier]

same seed hal

[solemn rivet]

you fucking did, didn't you?

[compact sedge]

how do I time it?

[copper nacelle]

@river eagle races have the same seed

[hollow pier]

otherwise people get free seeds

and some get impossible ones

[solemn rivet]

^

[river eagle]

wasn't it made so though that you couldn't softlock?

[solemn rivet]

also, is the difficulty preset embedded in the seed?

[hollow pier]

no you can softlock

[copper nacelle]

should i just make QoL auto-skip all cutscenes

[hollow pier]

just quitout

[copper nacelle]

or no

[solemn rivet]

best not, 56

or do it after the race

[hollow pier]

i think that's implemented into your fingers

[copper nacelle]

why after

[solemn rivet]

there's no guarantee everyone will get it before

[copper nacelle]

put it in #races-discussion ez

[hollow pier]

#races-announcements

[solemn rivet]

it's still not enough

people don't read my dude

[copper nacelle]

but i'm already adding pause to gain control

[hollow pier]

wait so modcommon can be 005 or 006 yes

too lazy to get 006

[compact sedge]

guys is this the best mod ever made?

[exotic venture]

everyone gets the same seed in this instance

one that i picked

[copper nacelle]

but i mean just in general also

[solemn rivet]

is, AA

[copper nacelle]

do people care about cutscenes

or can i kill them all

[solemn rivet]

also, how is it timed?

[copper nacelle]

LiveSplit

[hollow pier]

think anyone using qol would murder cutscenes

[exotic venture]

it was made so you can't softlock

[solemn rivet]

so it's igt

[exotic venture]

but it was also made that you sometimes have to do skips that will make you die and then perish

[solemn rivet]

just like a real cat

got it

[hollow pier]

wait i need to set up livesplit

can i add actual splits

[hazy sentinel]

shitpost

[hollow pier]

does it check for possessing an item or picking up the thing

[solemn rivet]

maybe ptk

[copper nacelle]

it does playerdata bools

[void tree]

you need to have 1 split in the autosplitter for it to work btw ptkyr

[copper nacelle]

so possession probably

[compact sedge]

oh nice I can't even use it... not because it doesn't work but because they use the wrong slashes

welp guess I'm not racing

[solemn rivet]

nice

[hollow pier]

so i can like put claw dnail cdash shitposts

[exotic venture]

too bad

[solemn rivet]

and it's that last one too

[hollow pier]

except they won't be in that order

[solemn rivet]

is livesplit needed tho?

[compact sedge]

who are these fucks writing c# programs with \\ instead of /

wtf

who are you people

[copper nacelle]

use the online live split

it works kinda

[hollow pier]

oh wait pop splits

devil is god

[solemn rivet]

oh boi I'm gonna die to thk so goddamn much

[compact sedge]

...online livesplit?

wtf

[solemn rivet]

haven't played this game since GM week 1

[compact sedge]

wdym

and how would it even work

can I just write a timer mod in 30 seconds?

[copper nacelle]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[solemn rivet]

no

bad AA

can u wine

[copper nacelle]

https://one.livesplit.org/

livesplit online

[exotic venture]

kind of a bummer i had to ditch my old seed because i announced it publicly way too beforehand

[hazy sentinel]

coolio

[solemn rivet]

AA: open the livesplit exe with dnspy and change the \\ to /

[exotic venture]

it was 1 but it was good

[hazy sentinel]

it'd be the hottest 1 seed old ever

[compact sedge]

I'm not using wine because wine is for dungos. apparently webassembly doesn't work in chrome :p

[solemn rivet]

I'm actually scared rn

[cunning lagoon]

fuck dude

i tried to fix my sleep schedule for the race

[solemn rivet]

wut did u do mys

[cunning lagoon]

and i somehow made it worse

[solemn rivet]

nice dlk

[exotic venture]

pick a good seed

nothing more nothing less

[solemn rivet]

"good"

""""good""""

[exotic venture]

yes

[vapid cape]

my sleep schedule is fucked too, and I'm busy, otherwise I'd possibly join and have a good time getting my ass beat

[hazy sentinel]

why try when you can aim for 8 hours

[cunning lagoon]

yeah atm my goal is finishing the race

if it takes 20 hours then so be it

[exotic venture]

even though in hindsight i may have made a single flaw...

[hazy sentinel]

just forfeit in the first minute

lol

[exotic venture]

oh well you'll see for yourself

[vapid cape]

Only speedrun race I've ever been a part of was an AM2R one

[hollow pier]

why does livesplit open the settings behind the split editor

[vapid cape]

and I won because everyone else died like chumps

[exotic venture]

ooh steel soul rando

[cunning lagoon]

wait is angle racing?

[copper nacelle]

who needs sleep

join anyways

@vapid cape

[exotic venture]

sounds fun

[hazy sentinel]

oh cool

[compact sedge]

not only am I racing I'm making a stupid timer mod

[hazy sentinel]

aug 25

[cunning lagoon]

lol nice

?rank racer

[autumn shard]

@cunning lagoon, you joined Racer.

[hazy sentinel]

really makes u 0.0.6

ha ha

[compact sedge]

it was only 0.0.2 when I started using it

[cunning lagoon]

can dnail replace elegy?

[copper nacelle]

the joke is 0.0.6 is only on the installer

[hazy sentinel]

elegy is bad items only

[copper nacelle]

and not on the gdrive

[cunning lagoon]

ok so i don't have to rescue grubs?

[hollow pier]

only 10

[copper nacelle]

grubsong can be things

[cunning lagoon]

right

ok

[hazy sentinel]

get pale ore lul

[compact sedge]

anyway I'm only doing the timer thing to distract me until kdt helps me

with unity being dumb

[cunning lagoon]

is the lantern randomized

[compact sedge]

unless TMP doesn't work on unity editor for linux

in which case fuck unity

fuck unity because TMP is an asset provided BY unity

[cunning lagoon]

don't me i refuse to go through a single dark room

[hazy sentinel]

good thing mys picked an easy seed

[compact sedge]

get smoked kiddo

[copper nacelle]

whoever made hk cutscenes can die irl

[compact sedge]

actually I'm the one who will be smoked

[cunning lagoon]

no dont kill them yet

we still need hornet dlc

ok so the race is 20 hours from now righjt

[hollow pier]

kuro math > acrid math

[cunning lagoon]

i just want to make sure i dont oversleep

[hollow pier]

acting like you sleep at all

[cunning lagoon]

and how do you set up the srl bs

[vapid cape]

?rank racer

[autumn shard]

@vapid cape, you joined Racer.

[hollow pier]

just go to channel

[cunning lagoon]

can i just not do that

[hollow pier]

kuro dropped out guys

it was fun

[cunning lagoon]

Haha yes

Weed and sex xD

[hollow pier]

haha yes

cdash and double pogo xD

[cunning lagoon]

hmm wasn't expecting that one

[solemn rivet]

is the auto-splitter order-dependant?

[hazy sentinel]

hard btw

[solemn rivet]

like, if I add a "get vs" before "kill fk", will it not split until I got vs?

[cunning lagoon]

also i dont need to record or stream or anything right

what did i get myself into

[solemn rivet]

not only did you get yourself into

you dragged me down with you

[cunning lagoon]

in my defense i was peer pressured into joining

[void tree]

autosplitter is not order dependant

[copper nacelle]

unless you use ordered splits

[cunning lagoon]

fiftysix

srl

how

[copper nacelle]

idk i'm setting mine up later™

[solemn rivet]

ty trinomi

I can help dlk

wut u need

[cunning lagoon]

what do i have to do

[copper nacelle]

isn't it just irc

[solemn rivet]

create an srl acc

yeah

[cunning lagoon]

ok

[solemn rivet]

so this should be fine, right?

since it's not order-dependant

[cunning lagoon]

just get good

[solemn rivet]

it should only count how many dreamer's I've killed before splitting

[cunning lagoon]

lol

[copper nacelle]

should work

i think

[solemn rivet]

k

[cunning lagoon]

yo so do i have to stream/record or nah

[solemn rivet]

dunno

I'm just following directions at this point

[copper nacelle]

auto skipping all cutscenes is good

[hollow pier]

no you don't have to stream

you don't even need srl

[cunning lagoon]

ok ill just set up srl

wtf this is a pita

[compact sedge]

alright I wrote a fuckn stupid timer mod in 12 seconds

[hazy sentinel]

wow nice DQ mod

[compact sedge]

can't wait for my 4 hour run to be DQed

[cunning lagoon]

which one do i use

@everyone help

[hollow pier]

none of the above

[copper nacelle]

any

if you want a web one this exists https://kiwiirc.com/

i used to use it

[void tree]

this tbh http://www.speedrunslive.com/channel/

[cunning lagoon]

which one are you using

ok

[hollow pier]

you just go to channel

[hazy sentinel]

good thing i installed hexchat

also can someone update gdrive modcommon

[hollow pier]

no use the installer lol

[cunning lagoon]

;installer

[solemn rivet]

is this ugly enough yet?

[copper nacelle]

why do they disable pause now

even if you can move

you can't menu drop

[cunning lagoon]

veru did it better imo

[copper nacelle]

or pause

[hazy sentinel]

gradow did you not see my video

[copper nacelle]

wtf kind of code is this

[hazy sentinel]

repost https://youtu.be/JcGX_1X8INw

[solemn rivet]

veru: I have some sense of self respect m8

I wanna see how low I can get without becoming a monster

[hazy sentinel]

im not a monster

[cunning lagoon]

ok so im in channel

what am i supposed to do

[hazy sentinel]

ur done

[cunning lagoon]

wow that was difficult

[hazy sentinel]

unless you didn't register your nick or something idk

[hollow pier]

/nickserv register password e-mail

[solemn rivet]

/nickserv register password email

[copper nacelle]

make sure to make your password password like ptkyr

[hollow pier]

this tbh

[cunning lagoon]

???

[compact sedge]

this is the sketchiest timer ever

[cunning lagoon]

where do i type that

[hollow pier]

in channel

[cunning lagoon]

there are two tabs

[copper nacelle]

nice loadless aa

[hollow pier]

the modder one

[copper nacelle]

don't run it during transitions

[solemn rivet]

anywhere dlk

it's a script, so it won't actually get posted

[hazy sentinel]

don't run it anywhere

0:00 WR

[compact sedge]

how do I check if i'm in a transition

serious question I need easy code

[copper nacelle]

Hero state

[hollow pier]

use your eyes

[copper nacelle]

there's a loading one

i think

[floral furnace]

HERO_TRANSITION or soemthing rite

[cunning lagoon]

ok i made my nick test

how do i change it

[copper nacelle]

@compact sedge GameManager.instance.IsInSceneTransition

/nick ur mum

[cunning lagoon]

Sick

[copper nacelle]

also i think livesplit just checks if you can input

[cunning lagoon]

can i use 10minutemail

[copper nacelle]

probably

[cunning lagoon]

fantastic

[solemn rivet]

real question: why is srl needed?

and how does the whole race work?

[cunning lagoon]

you beat the game as fast as possible

with the randomizer and the qol mods

[solemn rivet]

do I need to prove that I finished it or smth?

[cunning lagoon]

yea just say "done" after 10 minutes in #races-discussion

[copper nacelle]

i think you just see who finishes first there

[cunning lagoon]

that should be enough

[copper nacelle]

also why the fuck did tc

go to the lengths of adding a new monobehaviour

and disabling input using it

to disable pause to gain control on first drop

wtf

it's super deliberate and super shitty

[cunning lagoon]

you are shitty

actually no

im sorry 56

you are not shitty

[copper nacelle]

thanks

[compact sedge]

haha

[cunning lagoon]

dq'd

[solemn rivet]

dq'd

[copper nacelle]

no transition

[cunning lagoon]

so what do i do now

[copper nacelle]

try clawless dashless shade skip

[cunning lagoon]

i mean for the srl thing

[copper nacelle]

i think you just wait till the race starts

[cunning lagoon]

ok i'll take your word on that

if it doesn't work it's your fault

[copper nacelle]

ask #races-discussion thanks

[copper nacelle]

nice

[cunning lagoon]

ok so how do i make one (1) split that's just thk

[compact sedge]

should it not pause when the game is paused 56 or should it

[copper nacelle]

it kinda does but kinda doesn't

weird ik

[solemn rivet]

dlk it autosplits at thk

just make any split

[floral furnace]

couldnt it go during main menu to

[copper nacelle]

yes it does but also only kinda

https://youtu.be/rLsP3tQrcwU

@compact sedge

[cunning lagoon]

so this is fine?

[copper nacelle]

i think so

[solemn rivet]

sure

[cunning lagoon]

sick

[copper nacelle]

i think it's either not transition or can input

[compact sedge]

well anyway it pauses after u beat the game which is cool

[copper nacelle]

if you wanna see how it does it

https://github.com/ShootMe/LiveSplit.HollowKnight/blob/40484e0a74d1d9c443d399cc13e996e0a39e0812/HollowKnightComponent.cs

[solemn rivet]

I'm doing FK first thing and there's nothing y'all can say or do to stop me

[copper nacelle]

fury?

[solemn rivet]

well, yeah

[copper nacelle]

2nd thing smh my head

[cunning lagoon]

im taking my sweet ass time to get 112%

[solemn rivet]

just to make sure, the baldur doesn't close, right?

[copper nacelle]

yes

[solemn rivet]

ok

[cunning lagoon]

wait wdym

can you go straight to gp

[copper nacelle]

the vs baldur doesn't close

gp one does

[solemn rivet]

^

[cunning lagoon]

oh i see

that makes sense

[copper nacelle]

is this me

[solemn rivet]

well, no it doesn't

idk why sean added it

but I'll take it

[compact sedge]

does time start when the first cutscene starts playing or when you start falling to the ground

or what

[copper nacelle]

falling

[compact sedge]

ok

[solemn rivet]

dlk use TrajanPro like me for your splits

[compact sedge]

I'll just use unscaledDeltaTime then

[cunning lagoon]

no i wont get trajans into my computer

[compact sedge]

solve all my problems

so it counts during menu

[solemn rivet]

dang, dodged a bullet

tsc

I think Imma stream now, to make sure everything works fine

[copper nacelle]

it counts during menu when you can input

not when the menu is loading

i think

[solemn rivet]

does it count on main menu tho?

[cunning lagoon]

yes

[solemn rivet]

[compact sedge]

I'm not ever opening the pause menu

[cunning lagoon]

when you can input

[copper nacelle]

it counts during menu when you can input
not when the menu is loading

[solemn rivet]

BD thinks this is c#

[copper nacelle]

i always write cs

good habit

[solemn rivet]

ok

but what if

I always left c#

what then

[copper nacelle]

[copper nacelle]

@compact sedge GameState.Playing

i think

                bool loadingMenu = (string.IsNullOrEmpty(nextScene) && sceneName != "Menu_Title") || (nextScene == "Menu_Title" && sceneName != "Menu_Title");
if (gameState == GameState.PLAYING && lastGameState == GameState.MAIN_MENU) {

[compact sedge]

actually the first thing u sent works perfect

[cunning lagoon]

wow the timer didnt start!! thank you gradow

[copper nacelle]

Model.CurrentState.IsGameTimePaused = (gameState == GameState.PLAYING && teleporting) || lookForTeleporting || ((gameState == GameState.PLAYING || gameState == GameState.ENTERING_LEVEL) && uiState != UIState.PLAYING) || (gameState != GameState.PLAYING && !mem.AcceptingInput()) || gameState == GameState.EXITING_LEVEL || gameState == GameState.LOADING || mem.HeroTransitionState() == HeroTransitionState.WAITING_TO_ENTER_LEVEL || (uiState != UIState.PLAYING && (uiState != UIState.PAUSED || loadingMenu) && (!string.IsNullOrEmpty(nextScene) || sceneName == "_test_charms" || loadingMenu) && nextScene != sceneName); @compact sedge use this

[compact sedge]

fuck wrong video

[solemn rivet]

wut dlk

[copper nacelle]

but it doesn't pause during menu at all

[cunning lagoon]

don't worry i figured it out

[solemn rivet]

wudid I do

[copper nacelle]

for u

[compact sedge]

yes it pauses when the inventory is opening

[copper nacelle]

e

[compact sedge]

and not on the pause menu

[copper nacelle]

but what about main menu

[compact sedge]

it will pause there

watch

[copper nacelle]

but it shouldn't entirely pause there

[cunning lagoon]

can i get into the black egg temple with debug

to see if the autosplitter works

[copper nacelle]

only when you can't input

no kurosh

afaik

[cunning lagoon]

sad

[hollow pier]

zoom around and kill dreamers

[cunning lagoon]

fuck no im just praying it works

[compact sedge]

wait why shouldn't it pause on the main menu

oh ok

I can

fix that easy

[copper nacelle]

just steal the code dungo

https://github.com/ShootMe/LiveSplit.HollowKnight/blob/40484e0a74d1d9c443d399cc13e996e0a39e0812/HollowKnightComponent.cs#L106

they have a bool

just copy paste

[cunning lagoon]

can i just have debug there

or do i have to disable it

[solemn rivet]

ye

sure

why not

[floral furnace]

nibbug those exceptions

[copper nacelle]

s t e a l

t h e

c o d e

[compact sedge]

no fuck u

[copper nacelle]

why

[floral furnace]

*borrow

[compact sedge]

exceptions are from ur mod

[floral furnace]

wait are they

[compact sedge]

idk

[floral furnace]

h o w

ech

OH WAIT

nvm i think tis because of saving then quitting then entering a load

i need to unhook them or whatever on main menu

[copper nacelle]

OnDestroy ez

[floral furnace]

well yeah i forgot to set that up

[compact sedge]

other than spawning two timers it works perfect

[copper nacelle]

nice

[floral furnace]

check if theres an existing one or something with a bool?

or just destroy the old one then replace it with the new one but with the numbers still intact

[compact sedge]

yeah no I fixed it already

[floral furnace]

nice

[compact sedge]

c4 yourself. doesn't even need modcommon

[cunning lagoon]

why isnt my igt running

[hollow pier]

is your igt running

better go catch it

[copper nacelle]

why

i tried to send convo end

to the fsm

[compact sedge]

anyway if this DQs me IDGAF becausse my time won't be good anyway

hell fuck it just to be super disqualified I'll leave infinite grimm and nukememe installed

[proper notch]

is the enemy randomizer not updated for the new versions?

I have it on but it doesn't appear to do anything

[copper nacelle]

it is

n't

but it still works

[compact sedge]

hey 56 can u get text mesh pro to not throw an exception in unity

[proper notch]

my menu says its on, the forgotten crossroads says otherwise.

[compact sedge]

I wanna see if it's a bug with the unity linux or if I'm fucking up

[cunning lagoon]

why isnt my igt working REEEEE

[copper nacelle]

did you hit the load button

[compact sedge]

just use my mod dl

[hollow pier]

compare against igt idk

[compact sedge]

/s

[copper nacelle]

also is your auto splitter activated kurosh

[cunning lagoon]

its set to compare against igt

yeah

[copper nacelle]

oh right

[hollow pier]

does it have splits

[cunning lagoon]

it starts the timer but only the rta coutns up

[copper nacelle]

what trinomi said

[hollow pier]

like autosplits

[copper nacelle]

you need at least 1 split

[proper notch]

like, I should be getting really randomized enemy groups but I haven't seen anything out of normal yet

[cunning lagoon]

oh sure

[proper notch]

item randomizer is

but enemies are not randomizing

[copper nacelle]

you have to load it

big dungo

close your hk

open it again

there's a large option on the main menu

[cunning lagoon]

ok so

[proper notch]

oh yeah

it's just half offscreen

[cunning lagoon]

i made a gruz mom split

but it shouldnt end the timer there right?

[copper nacelle]

do you have 2 splits or one

[proper notch]

the option was... here.

[cunning lagoon]

2

[copper nacelle]

should be fine then i think

[compact sedge]

eww SRL uses irc?

[copper nacelle]

yes

[compact sedge]

fuck man I feel too young for this shit

[copper nacelle]

what

i'm younger than you

and i've used irc

[exotic venture]

less data logging tho

[copper nacelle]

help elderbug keeps softlocking me

[compact sedge]

lemme install konversation real quick

[cunning lagoon]

thats what you get for ignoring him all these runs

[floral furnace]

Dirthmouth ElderGod when?

[solemn rivet]

some thing's happening to me, kuro

timer stuck

weird

[cunning lagoon]

you need 2 splits i think

[solemn rivet]

I have 5

[cunning lagoon]

Ok then get good

is the timer just not running?

[solemn rivet]

ye

[cunning lagoon]

you have to start livesplit after opening the game

[solemn rivet]

o

[hollow pier]

you have to add icons

[solemn rivet]

force me ptk

make me do it

[hollow pier]

ok

vc lixo

[solemn rivet]

[cunning lagoon]

wow i just got dnail at fury

[solemn rivet]

k

[cunning lagoon]

nice hard seeed

[hollow pier]

seeeeeeeeeeeeeeed

[cunning lagoon]

ok so what exactly do you need to beat the game

dnail claw

[buoyant wasp]

Did godmaster add any new charms/skills/items?

[cunning lagoon]

something else?

[hollow pier]

cdash/isma

[floral furnace]

nope

[hollow pier]

and that's it

[cunning lagoon]

right

[copper nacelle]

godtuner

technically

but that's unimportant and useless

[floral furnace]

muh glorification

[buoyant wasp]

well, from a randomizer point of view

[floral furnace]

xhuis pls

[hollow pier]

no one is gonna get godtuner in the race

[copper nacelle]

yeah nothing new for rando

[compact sedge]

hey if I race I should record my run with obs or something right? or stream it?

[cunning lagoon]

wait do the aspids in the aspid arena in crossroads spawn faster now?

[copper nacelle]

you don't have to aa

the aspid spawn is different

[compact sedge]

I mean it'd be 5 fps if I did

[copper nacelle]

the double spike kill is now consistent

[compact sedge]

but I could

wait hold on doesn't SRL require streaming?

[copper nacelle]

does it

[cunning lagoon]

ok so what exactly is rando'd

charms, skills

[copper nacelle]

that's all

[cunning lagoon]

shops?

[copper nacelle]

yes

[cunning lagoon]

is the price also random?

[copper nacelle]

shop charms are randoed

yea iirc

[hollow pier]

shop item #s

[copper nacelle]

^

[cunning lagoon]

so collecting geo would be a reasonable thing to do

[copper nacelle]

you can have most of the items at leg eater

[hollow pier]

the price isn't random it's just a set thing for each charm isn't it

[copper nacelle]

is it

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hollow pier]

balanced for actual usefulness

like shaman is the most expensive i think

[cunning lagoon]

oh so heavy blow is the second most expensive

[copper nacelle]

they are

apparently

set

https://github.com/seanpr96/HollowKnight.RandomizerMod/blob/8cc3274f5e245e93c209be480d79f875b79e18f1/RandomizerMod2.0/Components/Shop.cs#L55

[solemn rivet]

wait

[hollow pier]

the most expensive is like 400

[compact sedge]

so what's the seed?

[hollow pier]

abilities are probably more

[solemn rivet]

the timer started as soon as I closed the game

wtf

[copper nacelle]

seed gets told later

so people don't cheat

but you could just modlog tbh

but don't

[hollow pier]

to be tbh modlog would waste time

[proper notch]

I don't know why the randomizer makes anything that replaces a vengefly tiny but I'm not complaining because tiny gruz mother is hilarious

[cunning lagoon]

why the fucc am i getting achievements now

[compact sedge]

how could I modlog if I don't know the seed

[proper notch]

she's so smol

[cunning lagoon]

i didnt clear registry

[compact sedge]

bigmeme

[copper nacelle]

modlog right after joining the race

ez

is it not PrintSceneHierarchyTree?

for the dump

[compact sedge]

but as soon as we get the seed the race starts, right?

oh

I see

to know where shit is

[copper nacelle]

yes

also is it PrintSceneHierachyTree?

cause it's not working

[cunning lagoon]

why am i getting the charmed achievement each time i pick up something

[hollow pier]

because

you can just turn that off

[cunning lagoon]

true i forgot about that

[exotic venture]

don't forget putting the mode to hard unless you like playing in the weenie hut

[copper nacelle]

ok seriously is it not PrintSceneHierachyTree wtf

[solemn rivet]

wtf it's only ever starting the timer when I close the game

[cunning lagoon]

yea im on hard

[solemn rivet]

wth

[copper nacelle]

it won't log my gameobject

[solemn rivet]

this is amazing

[cunning lagoon]

you are amazing

[solemn rivet]

why is it doing that tho

[compact sedge]

just compiled the modding api and it never built a dll

wtf

but it said it succeeded

[cunning lagoon]

would shade skipping to salubra's hut be a reasonable thing to do

is she likely to have good items

[void tree]

it's reasonable, but was better in rando 1.0

shops are a bit less op now

[cunning lagoon]

ic

[copper nacelle]

Application.persistentDataPath is saves right

apparently yes

[cunning lagoon]

yees

[copper nacelle]

5555555

[solemn rivet]

trinomi do you have any idea I'm having this issue?

[copper nacelle]

it's not the weekend yet

[compact sedge]

km k nk ijnoiubouhbuhb

[cunning lagoon]

it's saturday

ah right you don't live in the superior timezone

my bad

[copper nacelle]

wtf

it won't log shit

[void tree]

no clue gradow, devilsquirrel would be the only one that might know I think

[exotic venture]

look it me

[void tree]

timer doesn't even start on starting a new save?

[solemn rivet]

ty btw

yeah

it starts only when I close the game

[hollow pier]

did you follow the comprehensive src guide made by fireb0rn himself

[void tree]

and you open livesplit after the game?

[solemn rivet]

I tried opening livesplit both before and after the game

[void tree]

yeah no clue then

[cunning lagoon]

uhh is what corny sells rando'd?

[solemn rivet]

I didn't wait for the game to finish loading tho, launched it before the main menu

maybe that's it

brb

[void tree]

corny is not, but ismelda can have charms

[solemn rivet]

sly, iselda, salubra and legeater

[copper nacelle]

is !

[cunning lagoon]

nice

[hollow pier]

i smel da dinner

[fair rampart]

🅱orny

[compact sedge]

System.TypeInitializationException: The type initializer for 'MonoMod.RuntimeDetour.HookGen.Generator.HookGenerator' threw an exception. ---> System.ArgumentOutOfRangeException: Specified argument was out of the range of valid values.
Parameter name: options
  at System.Text.RegularExpressions.Regex.validate_options (System.Text.RegularExpressions.RegexOptions options) [0x0000c] in <25cbaba93b734b278635ab06efd82136>:0 
  at System.Text.RegularExpressions.Regex..ctor (System.String pattern, System.Text.RegularExpressions.RegexOptions options) [0x00017] in <25cbaba93b734b278635ab06efd82136>:0 
  at MonoMod.RuntimeDetour.HookGen.Generator.HookGenerator..cctor () [0x00000] in <9fcda430b43f410887f5642958a84cb6>:0 
   --- End of inner exception stack trace ---
  at MonoMod.RuntimeDetour.HookGen.Generator.Program.Main (System.String[] args) [0x00274] in <9fcda430b43f410887f5642958a84cb6>:0 
[ERROR] FATAL UNHANDLED EXCEPTION: System.TypeInitializationException: The type initializer for 'MonoMod.RuntimeDetour.HookGen.Generator.HookGenerator' threw an exception. ---> System.ArgumentOutOfRangeException: Specified argument was out of the range of valid values.
Parameter name: options
  at System.Text.RegularExpressions.Regex.validate_options (System.Text.RegularExpressions.RegexOptions options) [0x0000c] in <25cbaba93b734b278635ab06efd82136>:0 
  at System.Text.RegularExpressions.Regex..ctor (System.String pattern, System.Text.RegularExpressions.RegexOptions options) [0x00017] in <25cbaba93b734b278635ab06efd82136>:0 
  at MonoMod.RuntimeDetour.HookGen.Generator.HookGenerator..cctor () [0x00000] in <9fcda430b43f410887f5642958a84cb6>:0 
   --- End of inner exception stack trace ---
  at MonoMod.RuntimeDetour.HookGen.Generator.Program.Main (System.String[] args) [0x00274] in <9fcda430b43f410887f5642958a84cb6>:0 

send help 56

[void tree]

ok, timer doesn't start until you start falling into king's pass gradow

[solemn rivet]

ok, it works now

[copper nacelle]

what in fuck

[hollow pier]

ok, thanks

[copper nacelle]

are you using the latest monomod

from my branch

[compact sedge]

running mono MonoMod.RuntimeDetour.HookGen.exe --private Assembly-CSharp.dll

git cloned from ur branch

ansidfnijwenf

@bronze temple

[solemn rivet]

I had to wait to launch it til menu was up

Trinomi, I know, but even RTA wasn't timing

[copper nacelle]

my branch isn't latest

tbh

[compact sedge]

ok well

it broke

and I need to build the api or my controller won't work

unless I use SC controller

[copper nacelle]

try cloning again

[compact sedge]

same exception

[copper nacelle]

uhhhh

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

what

i built it like 2 days ago

[compact sedge]

tbh shit's just breaking on me today

[copper nacelle]

if you want i can build it w/ your dlls

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[compact sedge]

between livesplit, unity textmesh pro, and fucking fucking monomod

idk that my dlls are actually different

[copper nacelle]

woke

[bronze temple]

Oh, lol

I remember that error

[hazy sentinel]

fucking fucking

[bronze temple]

@compact sedge what's your version of mono?

[copper nacelle]

[compact sedge]

5.14.0.177

[cunning lagoon]

can anyone send me skurry's shade skip thing

[bronze temple]

They still didn't fix it?

[compact sedge]

ech

[bronze temple]

Try removing the regex precompilation flav

Flag*

On mobile rn

[compact sedge]

e

[copper nacelle]

use mono nightly

[compact sedge]

ex2

[bronze temple]

Mono has got issues with regex flags

[compact sedge]

meh I'll just use the prebuilt modding api and sc controller

[bronze temple]

More specifically, the special flags supported by the .NET Framework

...

But sure

Blame fucking fucking MonoMod for using a feature that has been broken in Mono for ages

[compact sedge]

honestly it's not ur fault

I'm sorry

it's just

[bronze temple]

Yeah I know

I'll just fix that tomorrow

Thanks for pinging me, otherwise I would've missed this entirely

[compact sedge]

c# fuckn hates me today. I must have spit on Steve Ballmer's grave or something and he's not even dead yet because between Unity, your thing and livesplit being dumb all three of which I think are because of mono I'm kinda salty.

I mean livesplit is because they love using this slash for paths \

[bronze temple]

Oof, hardcoded paths

[past wadi]

I added you now @solemn rivet

[bronze temple]

Oh well, it's late here, gonna catch some sleep

[past wadi]

any news on the player data tracker tho guys

[bronze temple]

Cya and good luck with whatever you're doing :D

[hazy sentinel]

@past wadi #races-discussion

[hollow pier]

^

[cunning lagoon]

ok so would it theoretically be impossible to beat the game if you can't do the clawless dashless shade skip to blue lake

bc i know im not learning that

[hollow pier]

what

you need nothing to reach rg

just go through dark room

[cunning lagoon]

oh actually nvm

game knowledge

so like what's the hardest thing a hard seed can throw at you

as far as tricks goes

[rain cedar]

Probably vs/wings only crystal peak

[cunning lagoon]

[compact sedge]

how do you crystal peak without mantis claw

[rain cedar]

And you're racing

Nice

[compact sedge]

float storage?

[rain cedar]

NMG

You ever try spike pogo?

[compact sedge]

oh eww

oh god

I know what u mean

fuck me

[rain cedar]

The grub gauntlet yeah

It's good fun

[exotic venture]

hardest skip is the cp one yeah, not including mag skips

[compact sedge]

how do you actually use livesplit one

[exotic venture]

also

[compact sedge]

I mean I'm still gonna use my dumb timer mod but nobody will trust that

[rain cedar]

You get windows and use real livesplit

[compact sedge]

honestly if "getting windows" solves all 3 of the problems I've had today I should just quit modding hk

and spend the rest of my life working on moth lore

[rain cedar]

Another solution is to port livesplit to unix

Here you go https://github.com/LiveSplit/LiveSplit

[cunning lagoon]

why did they remove this totem

i really dont get it

[rain cedar]

Fuck you lol

[compact sedge]

ok ewww

to get the modding api to work

I need to have my controller emulate keyboard output

so like

instead of a button I need to map it to x or whatever

so I jump

[rain cedar]

Just play on keyboard

[exotic venture]

sounds arse

[compact sedge]

quick cast is s right?

or a

[hollow pier]

no it's f

[cunning lagoon]

it's 3

[exotic venture]

rebind it lmao

[floral furnace]

numpad directionals boi

[cunning lagoon]

absolutely not

[exotic venture]

numpad movement or bust

[cunning lagoon]

if you dont use wasd for movement you are a monster

[floral furnace]

ew

[hollow pier]

i use arrows

[floral furnace]

8456 is still the best

[compact sedge]

what's quick map on keyboard

tab?

[floral furnace]

yes

[exotic venture]

what do you mean everyone knows 8 4 6 2 is the way to go

[silk jetty]

8456 best combo for movement

[rain cedar]

ertg

[silk jetty]

rdfg second best

[hollow pier]

345t tbh

[cunning lagoon]

you all have the fucking least efficient binds

[floral furnace]

home del end pgdn

[rain cedar]

I mean I use arrow keys

That's pretty efficient

Whatever efficient even means here

[hollow pier]

ax uses wasd p[];' or something

[cunning lagoon]

reasonable

[floral furnace]

lmao why is he declaring an array while playing :xd:

[cunning lagoon]

arrays start at 1

[floral furnace]

no

[compact sedge]

meme

[floral furnace]

not even a super nintendo controller smh

[silk jetty]

not enough buttons lel

[cunning lagoon]

is there any point in collecting essence

[flint mesa]

Unlocks true ending

[cunning lagoon]

dwielder is the last rando'd reward right?

i mean in rando

[compact sedge]

https://forum.unity.com/threads/text-mesh-pro-dll-error.463275/ AJIJDASIPJDASOIJOADIJ QUWNOIUQCIUHQOIWUCHOIWUQDOI SO I DO ALL THIS FUCKN WORK INSTALLING THE UNITY EDITOR AND IT JUST DOESN"T FUCKN WORK

I quit

[floral furnace]

56: i cant believe aa fucking dies

[compact sedge]

Libreoffice doesn't give me errors when I try changing the font in it. Libreoffice never gives me errors and never crashes and does everything I need. How fuckin much work is it to ask a programming language to be half as competent as an office suite

also 56 pls help it will probably take u 12 seconds

[solemn rivet]

does anyone have an api version that doesn't break my controller inputs?

[cunning lagoon]

⌨

[solemn rivet]

no

[cunning lagoon]

your loss

[solemn rivet]

I can probably play with kb

but I'm not used to it

[compact sedge]

I have an api version but it doesn't have the latest monomod fixes required to stop uh -= from causing exceptions

and idk if that would break rando 2

[solemn rivet]

what's even making controllers not work?

can you send it to me? I'll give it a shot AA

[compact sedge]

send you my... api?

[cunning lagoon]

send api and vagene

[rain cedar]

Randomizer doesn't use monomod hooks

[solemn rivet]

yeah, the api that works with controllers

[solemn rivet]

ty

[silk jetty]

fuck empress muznik

[cunning lagoon]

i would

[compact sedge]

nt

yeah I guess there's literally no way for me to ever add custom fonts to HK then

welp

[vapid cape]

Does Empress work on the latest patch?

[cunning lagoon]

ye

[vapid cape]

In fact, what mods on the installer DON'T?

I hear the enemy randomizer's out for now, but any other ones I should avoid checking out?

[floral furnace]

iirc gradow said they all worked?

[cunning lagoon]

is claw and dnail enough to get everything in howling cliffs?

[floral furnace]

iirc

[solemn rivet]

enemy rando works tho

I removed all mods that didn't work from the installer

[vapid cape]

Ah hah. Nice!

[solemn rivet]

AA controller doesn't work with that api

[rain cedar]

[cunning lagoon]

i like the new sean

[solemn rivet]

I for one welcome our new lyfwag overlords

gonna stream some rando now

I need practice

[floral furnace]

Whoever wins this race replaces Graig as lead tester right? /s

[cunning lagoon]

@floral furnace race

[floral furnace]

🤔

[cunning lagoon]

i got wraiths at wraiths

nice

[rain cedar]

[vapid cape]

I've never tried randomizer. If I join the race it will be my VIRGIN EXPERIENCE

[cunning lagoon]

same

i'm trying it out for a bit to kinda know how stuff works

[copper nacelle]

@compact sedge whatmst

i was away

[compact sedge]

ok

56

[rain cedar]

Why have they done this to me?

[copper nacelle]

ok

https://radiance.host

[rain cedar]

I don't want to talk to them I just want eyes

[compact sedge]

there's a bug with text mesh pro that literally makes it only work on windows

so what I need

[copper nacelle]

sean get

[compact sedge]

is you to make it for me

[copper nacelle]

ok

[compact sedge]

so open unity

and add the text mesh pro asset

it's free

[copper nacelle]

ok

[compact sedge]

and make a new project

[copper nacelle]

what if i already have one

can i just use that

[compact sedge]

sure

[copper nacelle]

or do i need to match hk's unity version

[compact sedge]

no

I don't think so

I hope not

[rain cedar]

Where does the egg come from?

[compact sedge]

anyway

[rain cedar]

It's not on the emote list server

[copper nacelle]

https://discord.gg/rVYbFQ5

[compact sedge]

ok and then import the font I sent you as an asset

[floral furnace]

where are you fucking getting these servers

[rain cedar]

[compact sedge]

and then go window -> text mesh pro -> font asset creator

[copper nacelle]

ping and salar's emote list has a bot which lets you search for emotes

how do i import the font

nvm i can see

[rain cedar]

Emote servers op

[compact sedge]

assets -> import new asset

ok

[rain cedar]

Very nice

[floral furnace]

oh yeah you need a restart just for it to work

[copper nacelle]

most of these too

[compact sedge]

change the atlas size to 4096 x 4096 I guess and set the font source to the font

[copper nacelle]

i used to have more but i hit server cap limit and it was annoying

[compact sedge]

and then click generate font atlas

[copper nacelle]

so i left like 20ish

[hollow pier]

i see no mention test here

[rain cedar]

I didn't know there was a server cap

[copper nacelle]

100 servers

[cunning lagoon]

imagine actually hitting the server cap

disgusting human being

[hazy sentinel]

imagine actually hitting super dash charge time

[copper nacelle]

@compact sedge whatmst

[compact sedge]

import them

[copper nacelle]

ok

examples and extras too or no

[compact sedge]

no need for examples

I don't think

actually 4096x4096 atlas size might be overkill, maybe 2048 might be better

[copper nacelle]

fuck i clicked it

[compact sedge]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[copper nacelle]

shit i need gachigasm

[rain cedar]

https://discord.gg/rNRGgy

[compact sedge]

that server name is giving me cancer

[copper nacelle]

[silk jetty]

us scrubs with no nitro with our limited emotes to things we are subbed to on twitch

[cunning lagoon]

🤠

[floral furnace]

wow nice for them to tell me to fuck off upon joining

[rain cedar]

But these are global emotes

[compact sedge]

haha nice

[rain cedar]

It's not nitro

[hollow pier]

wdym

[copper nacelle]

there's someone named 58 in that server

someone pinged me about it

[cunning lagoon]

send screenshot

[hazy sentinel]

@copper nacelle about it

[floral furnace]

wow 56 long lost brother

[compact sedge]

ah yes the 58 precepts

they just pinged the two of them with a thinking emote

[copper nacelle]

do i need anything else changed

[compact sedge]

it wasn't that interesting

uh 2048x2048 and uh the sprite picked and I think ascii should work and if not I can give you a char list

[copper nacelle]

e

is this fine

[compact sedge]

yes I think but idk what happens when you click generate

because it breaks on non-windows

so ur on ur own from ehre

[copper nacelle]

wtf is this font

:confusion:

[compact sedge]

glorious

don't send a screenshot here it would ruin it

[copper nacelle]

i'd send it but i don't want to spoil

yeah

[compact sedge]

it's my 4th meme mod

[copper nacelle]

don't spoil shitmodst

[cunning lagoon]

🤔

[floral furnace]

art*

[compact sedge]

ok so once you do that what is the format of the asset

[floral furnace]

still waiting for shitmodst supreme edition, whenever 753 starts making it again i guess

[copper nacelle]

it's still genning

[compact sedge]

oh dang

[cunning lagoon]

damn rando is pretty fun

[copper nacelle]

wow practicing

banned

[cunning lagoon]

its not practice im testing everything works

bc you sure as hell didnt

[copper nacelle]

u

[hazy sentinel]

bc you sure as hell didnt upload 0.0.6

[compact sedge]

I might take a 15 minute break to eat lunch 1 hour into my rando run

tomorrow

[copper nacelle]

aa upload 0.0.6 when

[compact sedge]

uhhh

[copper nacelle]

it's not on the gdrive

[compact sedge]

it is uploaded to:

https://radiance.host/mods/ModCommon.zip

[copper nacelle]