#archived-modding-development

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cunning lagoon
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what exactly do i do

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to not fuck it up

sour oriole
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Is there a way you can enter radiant bosses with 1 mask left ?
to activate FoTF ?

vivid summit
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imagine glorified steel tempest where you just hold the attack button and have a machinegun nail

compact sedge
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no

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you heal when you enter radiant bosses

hollow pier
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just

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submit it

cunning lagoon
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ok

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if something goersd wrong it's your fault

hazy sentinel
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have you submitted a run before

cunning lagoon
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yes

hollow pier
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i hope nothing goersd wrong

hazy sentinel
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just do that

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again

cunning lagoon
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ok

fair rampart
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is it mean that I call my cat fatty

vivid summit
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glorified swift focus: upon entering focus you heal 3 masks in half a second

cunning lagoon
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yes

hazy sentinel
cunning lagoon
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be nice to your cat

hollow pier
cunning lagoon
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ok i submitted it

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it's your fault if i did something wrong

hollow pier
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now wait 8 days for sean to verify it

hazy sentinel
cunning lagoon
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no we have xero now

fair rampart
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man dude's a new player give em a break

cunning lagoon
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no way it takes more than an hour

fair rampart
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i died to false knight

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we all have to start somewhere

hollow pier
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no you just bad

compact sedge
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smh even veru's run got verified in like 4 hours

cunning lagoon
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^

fair rampart
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not only that but I died to false knight AFTER beating ds3 at level 1

cunning lagoon
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^

hazy sentinel
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should've done p1 and gotten those glorified charms

cunning lagoon
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wtf

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wqong

hollow pier
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gj kuro

compact sedge
fair rampart
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v

hollow pier
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^

cunning lagoon
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you can't say anything to me you are using compact mode

copper nacelle
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modde

cunning lagoon
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modee

fair rampart
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minecraft modder server community

copper nacelle
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rEEEE

compact sedge
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compact mod is the best discord modde

hazy sentinel
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is e your superdash button lol

hollow pier
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r5555

cunning lagoon
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oof

vivid summit
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still hoping for a what-if/offtopic channel because of the amount of ridiculous ideas in my head

fair rampart
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minecraft graphics mod for hollow knight

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instead of a nail you have a diamond sworxd

compact sedge
copper nacelle
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no

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b&

compact sedge
vivid summit
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bad Xhuis

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bad

hazy sentinel
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brb guys

cunning lagoon
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ok cya later

hazy sentinel
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also anyone have minecraft sword sprites

fair rampart
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I still want to change the void heart sprite but it has eluded me 😡

hazy sentinel
vivid summit
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oh god now I just imagined something Xhuis

cunning lagoon
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just change it @fair rampart

fair rampart
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die

cunning lagoon
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i wish

hazy sentinel
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@ Mods

vivid summit
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Glorified Void Heart for beating panth5 (or getting a really high score in the system you suggested)

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what in gods name would that entail

hollow pier
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now we wait for simo to accidentally @everyone

fair rampart
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also, what's the variable for killing radiance

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there's killedFinalBoss but I dunno if that's absrad or rad

vivid summit
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sounds like rad

hollow pier
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killedBullshitAndRNG

cunning lagoon
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^ this

hazy sentinel
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no killedFinalBoss is myla

vivid summit
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no

cunning lagoon
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dont you dare make a cedilla3

vivid summit
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bad scenic >:((

hazy sentinel
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🤔

cunning lagoon
hazy sentinel
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does it count if i made cedilla3.png

cunning lagoon
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idk does it?

hazy sentinel
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no

cunning lagoon
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ok

hazy sentinel
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ok

hollow pier
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ççççççççç

copper nacelle
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@fair rampart eeeeeeee

cunning lagoon
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@fair rampart

copper nacelle
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wtf

hazy sentinel
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E

cunning lagoon
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🅱

copper nacelle
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monomod hook the charm list get sprite and log then and dynamically create sprites based on the key

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then you can see the key

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ez

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or is it the inventory side panel sprite that isn't working

hollow pier
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56 did you add pause to gain control

copper nacelle
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no

cunning lagoon
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did you add fasttext

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sean gave you permission

copper nacelle
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no

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soon tm

fair rampart
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@copper nacelle when I last attempted it I got one sprite working but not the second one

hazy sentinel
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did you add working inputs

hollow pier
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imagine being a modder and not immediately doing everything anyone requests lmao why even exist

fair rampart
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the sprite in the inventory worked but not the sprite in the actual equipped charms

cunning lagoon
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^^ this!!!

hazy sentinel
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GGGrrraaadddooowww!!!

copper nacelle
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oh that's free

cunning lagoon
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why live

copper nacelle
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just monomod hook and log

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swap to kingsoul

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open inventory again

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diff them

solemn rivet
cunning lagoon
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hEY Gradow GWfroggyZoomeyes

copper nacelle
solemn rivet
hollow pier
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!wodarG

solemn rivet
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itt: how my research takes so much of my time that I can't afford to work on blackmoth anymore

cunning lagoon
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is this loss

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whats the opposite of redemption

fair rampart
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anti-redemption

solemn rivet
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noitpmeder

hollow pier
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cdash at 1:05

hazy sentinel
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u tried google

cunning lagoon
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yeah

hazy sentinel
cunning lagoon
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i dont like any of these

hazy sentinel
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can i have a uhhhhhhh

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🅱ntiredem🅱tion

copper nacelle
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veru when's the comrade API port

hollow pier
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why do you need the opposite of redemption

cunning lagoon
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i just wanted to know it

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knowledge is power

hollow pier
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did you know cdashing once is faster than cdashing twice

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same with pogos actually

cunning lagoon
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wow haven't heard this one before

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why did i suddenly get a bunch of views on my pop vid

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where was it posted

hazy sentinel
cunning lagoon
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ok so does redemption just

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not have an antonym

copper nacelle
cunning lagoon
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it's the thumbnail

hollow pier
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why is 🅱 blue

cunning lagoon
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why is your 🅱 emoji 🅱lue

copper nacelle
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the descending dark thumbnail is great

cunning lagoon
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wow

copper nacelle
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because mobile

hollow pier
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a repost now

copper nacelle
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:b:

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wow you can't do it on mobile

cunning lagoon
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Hmmmm

copper nacelle
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can someone else do it so I can screenshot it

cunning lagoon
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Interesting.

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🅱

copper nacelle
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no not that

hollow pier
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\🅱

copper nacelle
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yes

hazy sentinel
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🚼

copper nacelle
cunning lagoon
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can you like

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clear your notifs

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and charge your phone

hollow pier
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firefox tabs = notifs

hazy sentinel
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you could use disenchantment as the opposite of redemption i guess

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if you mean redemption as like

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a return on some failure or bad action

cunning lagoon
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lets go

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thanks dad

hazy sentinel
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you could also use redemption as the action of using a coupon or something

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redeem the buy one get one free deal

hollow pier
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buy one subject verb agreement get 2 free

cunning lagoon
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that was a good opportunity for a cdash joke

hazy sentinel
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buy one input let the game drop the other one

cunning lagoon
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never forget

hazy sentinel
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sorry i already did

cunning lagoon
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Ok

hazy sentinel
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1.2.1.4 fluke colo

cunning lagoon
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doesn't seem too bad tbh

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shaman stone is all yhou need

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everything else is there for show

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is that dwielder or dshield

hazy sentinel
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quick focus is there to waste 3 notches

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wielder

hollow pier
cunning lagoon
fair rampart
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a friend of mine beat TotF with hiveblood, shape of unn, and I think quick slash

hazy sentinel
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has dream gate
doesnt have dream wielder
comments on Part XI

fair rampart
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it was so bizarre

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I watched it happen

hollow pier
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real nibbas comment on IV

cunning lagoon
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is that the one where you die

hazy sentinel
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episode V is the best tbh

cunning lagoon
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you have to work on your thk fight

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improvable wr

hazy sentinel
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there's also the free 50 hour time save by not sleeping or eating

cunning lagoon
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that's frame perfect so i won't go for it

hazy sentinel
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do you go for everything that isn't frame perfect

copper nacelle
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eat while playing

hazy sentinel
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eat while sleeping

fair rampart
copper nacelle
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ß

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did the other sprite work

fair rampart
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i ended up just adding it to wayward compass for now hollowdab

copper nacelle
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smh

fair rampart
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that way players can also opt out of having stat increases

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it kind of buffs you across the board

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5% higher damage
5% faster movement
5 more soul on hit

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you get it by downing absrad in the statue

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you also get the abyssal tuner if you beat her in the pantheon or in radiant mode at the statue that makes you omegastrong

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33 flat soul on hit
50% higher damage
all damage above 1 mask is reduced by 1 mask
25% faster movement
you're permanently pitch black

copper nacelle
fair rampart
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it's like

cunning lagoon
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wtf

copper nacelle
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why

fair rampart
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you beat the hardest challenge in the game so the optional reward lets you steamroll the rest

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that's how I see it

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maybe I'll make it configurable or something

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I just like having op crap as a reward for beating massively difficult challenges

hazy sentinel
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@compact sedge is this u

hollow pier
cunning lagoon
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what am i looking at in that

copper nacelle
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?

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zipf maybe

hollow pier
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the big zipf himself

compact sedge
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yes I do the same thing with my mods even tho it's incredibly stupid balance wise but so does TC @fair rampart

copper nacelle
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haha yes

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I was right

compact sedge
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we all do it

cunning lagoon
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do you only have 190h at hk

hollow pier
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yes

copper nacelle
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what

cunning lagoon
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thats low af

copper nacelle
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I don't have any broken rewards

hollow pier
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ur low af

copper nacelle
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eeee

cunning lagoon
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no im high bc i smoke weeed 😎

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420 amirite

hollow pier
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no none of my games have 420h of playtime sorry

fair rampart
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maybe I'll make it a reward for beating all bosses on radiant

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or ascended

cunning lagoon
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even your terraria hours are low

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given that it's terraria

hollow pier
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also i labelled the axes wrong

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i forgot what x and y was

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just got 100 on a math test btw

cunning lagoon
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so where is tein

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i see smb

hazy sentinel
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tein doesn't exist

hollow pier
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i pirated tein 😎

cunning lagoon
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did you

hollow pier
fair rampart
cunning lagoon
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no you tell me, Ptdawesome

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private steam profile

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lame

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give edmund mcmillen your money 😡

hollow pier
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who

cunning lagoon
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the guy who designed isaac tein and smb

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among many others

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🤔

hazy sentinel
fair rampart
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ok I have my op charms

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let's see about making actual other ones

hollow pier
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looks pretty zipfian to me

weary oyster
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where yall getting these steam graphs

fair rampart
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it's prob dumb but

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I am kinda proud of how far I've come t b h

cunning lagoon
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haha yes

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be proud of yourself

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you are great

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and dont let anyone tell you otherwise

fair rampart
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i'm ok

hazy sentinel
fair rampart
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not as much of a superhuman insane code wizard like some of the folks here

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but people seem to like exaltation so that's enough for me

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also my sense of balance is nonexistent

cunning lagoon
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well ofc no one is gonna be as good of a programmer as me

fair rampart
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"how do I glorify this charm?"
"leT'S DOUBLE THE DAMAGE"

vapid cape
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exaltation's pretty much just the reimplementation of a cut idea many people looked forward too, of COURSE you're going to have fans.

fair rampart
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tbf

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I don't even know if it's accurate to what the original mechanic was going to be

vapid cape
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I'm in there with em. It's probably going to be one of those mods I always use in the future even if I already know I don't NEED those charms

fair rampart
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now I just need to figure out a few things still not touched on

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like how to swap between different flavors of charms, ala nailsage <-> sagesoul

vapid cape
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I doubt it is. TC seems to always surprise with their way of doing things. But exaltation's good enough to scratch that itch

fair rampart
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I was thinking of making it tied to defeating a boss in the HoG and then when you finish it the game checks and then removes your having beaten it to swap it out

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but then people couldn't write down that they beat every boss so

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since one statue would be listened as ascended or whatev

cunning lagoon
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ok so where do you see these cool ass graphs

fair rampart
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wha

cunning lagoon
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the steam playtime thing

hollow pier
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(edited)

hazy sentinel
cunning lagoon
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where do you see that

hollow pier
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nowhere

cunning lagoon
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😠

weary oyster
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neat

hazy sentinel
cunning lagoon
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verulean

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explain

hollow pier
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send steam and gamenes

vapid cape
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tbh, having multiple glorifications of the same charm probably isn't a good idea in the end. Might be for the best to either just scrap one of the variants, or implement the other into a different charm somehow.

compact sedge
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damn microsoft excel graphs lookn fancy

fair rampart
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eh

weary oyster
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wait whats that 2nd graph

fair rampart
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I think it lets me squeeze in good thematic ideas

compact sedge
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actually not fully agree. I just think being able to swap between glorifications would be cool

fair rampart
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I think what I'll do is uh

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beating up gruzmother with the charm equipped swaps it to the other variant

cunning lagoon
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what

fair rampart
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that way the loss is minimal

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and it's also legit the most elegant way I've found

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lmao

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I am not good at code

cunning lagoon
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ok ngl that seems like a kinda weird way to do it

fair rampart
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what would you recommend

cunning lagoon
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ill try to come up with something

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ig

hazy sentinel
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sly has dialogue after emptying his shop or something

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like "lol u wanna swap"

fair rampart
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lmao

hazy sentinel
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and then yes/no

fair rampart
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dunno if that's possible alas

hazy sentinel
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feelsbad

fair rampart
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if I could I would make it so that if you attempted to focus with that charm in the hall of gods that the focus cost is set to a full soul meter (ala refill at a bench)

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then if you focus at full health using the full soul meter it pops it to the other variant

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but I don't think I can check to make sure that they're at the hall specifically

hazy sentinel
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up up down down left right left right attack jump enter

fair rampart
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big oof

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actually, a key combo wouldn't be too bad of a way to do it

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but like... what combo

compact sedge
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what about using a nailart in that room switches it

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since it's a nail art charm

fair rampart
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could work

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really wish I could just smack down a lever or something but that doesn't exist yet

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😡

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I'ma just rock the gruz mother crap hollowdab

hazy sentinel
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smack the crossroads sign

fair rampart
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i tried implementing the konami code but it didn't work

hazy sentinel
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F

fair rampart
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big f

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I think I'll move it to sly instead of gruz mother though

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it feels less gamey

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beat up the nailsage to change your nailsage charm

weary oyster
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yo @tranquil glen would the save state thing work for colo

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cause that would be like amazing

fair rampart
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so I know I just said balance don't matter as much to me but I figure a semblance, at least, is good

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so can anyone think of any charms in exaltation that are broken full-stop

vapid cape
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lemme read the list on the github and re-familiarize myself with them

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ambrosial and prismatic lens are the only two that stand out to me as intensely good, but I wouldn't complain about them if they were high end rewards. p4 shell/soul binding respectively. Powerful options like that are alright if it takes some doing to get them

fair rampart
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ambrosial ampoule desc is actually outdated

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it's currently roughly 20% faster than default

vapid cape
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wyrmfury is also awesome but only in the context of p5 lifeblood-focused speedruns

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I knew that. I accounted for it, sorry

fair rampart
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s'all good

cunning lagoon
hollow pier
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no

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i just die to the start

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if i get past the second beam

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i do it

cunning lagoon
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lmao

hazy sentinel
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how does one die to start of climb

hollow pier
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like beam + beam

tranquil glen
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@weary oyster in film class atm so i cant do anything about it but no not atm

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I can probably add that though

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Also will work ongetting it for 1221, just been busy

hollow pier
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imagine being in a film class when you can take mug class

weary oyster
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yea itd be super useful for practicing specific colo waves

tranquil glen
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Oh god you want specific waves

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I can try lol

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I was gonna say i could def reset colos to be not done yet but you can just replay them anyway huh

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I'm not sure how the waves work so that may or may not be possible

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But I'll look into it

weary oyster
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ah i see

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yea if its too much trouble dont worry about it lol

tranquil glen
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If i can do it i will

weary oyster
fair rampart
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is it possible to change where a scene transition leads the player?

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o

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ye

tranquil glen
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Yeah probably

fair rampart
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people would probably consider it cheating tho 😡

tranquil glen
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Just find the name of the loadzone and edit what loadzone it goes to

fair rampart
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i wanna see if it's possible to make the radiance statue actually put in the absrad fight instead of the statue version

tranquil glen
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So you're trying to make the statue lead to the actual foght in p5?

fair rampart
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ye

hollow pier
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wow cheating

fair rampart
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no u

tranquil glen
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Yeah thats def cheating

fair rampart
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yeah I know

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I'm just curious if it's doable

tranquil glen
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But its probably possible to answer your question

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Wouldn't be surprised if it required FSM fuckery

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But its probably doable

hollow pier
cunning lagoon
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i don't get it

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ok so why do menu drops eat my dash sometimes

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how does it work

hollow pier
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you aren't supposed to have dash that early

cunning lagoon
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what

hollow pier
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try dashing during a hard fall

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does it work friend

cunning lagoon
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oh

hollow pier
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no friend

cunning lagoon
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i see

hollow pier
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wow big realize

cunning lagoon
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makes sense

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wtf there was a toll in deepnest

fair rampart
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pre-lifeblood babies mylajoy

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also exaltation is now 1.0.3 go get it

hollow pier
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you mean cheat p5

fair rampart
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still tossed up on abyssal tuner

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I think I'll either put it behind all radiant bosses or just scrap it

hollow pier
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what are all stats

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hp soul dmg

hazy sentinel
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geo

cunning lagoon
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jump height

fair rampart
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movespeed, damage dealt, and soul on hit

hazy sentinel
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dash length

hollow pier
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jump height would be pog

fair rampart
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abyssal tuner also makes you take less damage

hollow pier
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could do exalt pop runs

hazy sentinel
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number of midair jumps

hollow pier
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with tunnel skip

cunning lagoon
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👀

fair rampart
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oh lord imagine a jumpmaster charm

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press space bar and you slam through the ceiling

hazy sentinel
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super dash charge time

cunning lagoon
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please yes

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i need that

hazy sentinel
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@fair rampart abyssal tuner should give you more charm notches intenseface

fair rampart
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is that possible

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if it is then I would prob do that instead of the stat increases lul

hollow pier
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make it instantly give p5 achievement

fair rampart
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nice

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knockin that 0.3% to 50% one player at a time

hazy sentinel
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ur already doing that

hollow pier
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0.25% illegitimate

fair rampart
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vengefly king is legit one of the most frustrating radiant bosses

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literally not joking

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jfc

hazy sentinel
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what

cunning lagoon
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nah u wrong lul

fair rampart
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it'd probably help if my inherent playstyle wasn't "extreme greed"

cunning lagoon
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u irl

hazy sentinel
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is that unbr greed upgrade

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or did u name it capitalism

fair rampart
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unbr greed doesn't have an upgrade

hazy sentinel
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excuse me

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how dare you

hollow pier
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when is 5x geo

cunning lagoon
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make your damage scale with geo

hollow pier
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might as well geo is pointless by the panths

hazy sentinel
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geo multiplier = Geo count + 1

copper nacelle
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make geo affect nail damage

cunning lagoon
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wow thats a good idea 56

exotic venture
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divide by 10k and add

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because honestly that's what i'd expect at that stage

copper nacelle
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divide by 10k and then log of that

hazy sentinel
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ur mum

copper nacelle
fair rampart
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i did it

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I beat radiant vengely fling

cunning lagoon
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Good

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job

fair rampart
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that's the new name

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vengely fling

hazy sentinel
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that's the new name

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cheart

exotic venture
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that's the new name

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quicknail

fair rampart
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fast strike

hazy sentinel
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@copper nacelle pragmatism.dll that changes item/charm descriptions to exactly what they do instead of shitty lore when

compact sedge
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DL this is how I play hollow kngiht tbh. Extreme greed all the way

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@hazy sentinel send pr to UHKP

cunning lagoon
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i just live in extreme fear

hazy sentinel
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@compact sedge no u

compact sedge
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or at least give me a list of things I should change specifically and what to set them to

cunning lagoon
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@cunning lagoon no me

exotic venture
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heavy blow description

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"blows"

fair rampart
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yeet

cunning lagoon
weary oyster
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wut

cunning lagoon
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soul tyrant is a slot machine 😡

weary oyster
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soul tyrant was one of the easier ones

cunning lagoon
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uhh no it's the most bullshit he has ever faced now

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didn't you read the post

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it's right there

copper nacelle
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radiant massive moss charger > radiant abs rad

cunning lagoon
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radiant mmc > radiant markoth

copper nacelle
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yes

cunning lagoon
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wow graig beat monstah's p1 time

copper nacelle
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what was that seizure

cunning lagoon
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dont even ask

copper nacelle
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nice

hazy sentinel
hollow pier
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r/IHadAStroke

fair rampart
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I think I may try to make a mod called "high-vis" or something

hazy sentinel
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high vys

copper nacelle
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high @gritty belfry

fair rampart
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that gives projectiles/hazards/etc that a lot of bosses make colors that clash with their actual body

#

since radiance etc have projectiles that you can't see on them

hazy sentinel
#

high @ Mods

fair rampart
#

at least I can't see them on them

copper nacelle
#

invert anything that's a projectile

#

ez

hazy sentinel
#

make projectiles black and white checkerboard pattern

cunning lagoon
#

the balls are easy to see on beta

hazy sentinel
#

yeah but hp nerf

cunning lagoon
#

i can't think of any other attack that i have trouble seeing

hollow pier
#

the balls are easy to see with comrade

fair rampart
#

its tru

#

also if there was a mod that let me skip boss intros I would install it in a heartbeat

cunning lagoon
#

@copper nacelle

copper nacelle
#

e

fair rampart
#

absrad practice is frustrating when you have to sit through 15 seconds each time

cunning lagoon
#

never forget

copper nacelle
#

eventually tm

hazy sentinel
#

just inf hp ez

cunning lagoon
#

how much health does absrad have in beta

hazy sentinel
#

<3000

cunning lagoon
#

🤔

copper nacelle
#

nkg health buff when

hazy sentinel
#

nkg infinite health when

hollow pier
#

1200 hollowomg

cunning lagoon
#

ngg in base game when

#

vanilla

fair rampart
#

jfc abs rad you need to calm down

#

laser sweep literally EVERY ATTACK

#

what is this, lost lord

hazy sentinel
#

make that a mod

#

100% laser sweeps

cunning lagoon
#

thats like the best attack

hazy sentinel
#

laser sweeps during climb

#

laser sweeps during final phase

#

laser sweeps during cutscene

hollow pier
#

make vertical laser beams

fair rampart
#

also is it a bad idea to try to chase her down during p2, should I just wait on one platform

cunning lagoon
#

yes

#

chasing her around and standing on one side of the arena is how you get overlapping patterns

hazy sentinel
#

just ddark lol

cunning lagoon
#

^ also this

copper nacelle
#

eeeeeeeee

#

overcharmed ascended is 8 damage

cunning lagoon
#

shocking

compact sedge
#

nice

#

perfect for fotf builds

cunning lagoon
#

on soul tyrant

fair rampart
#

why do you insult people who are still learning

cunning lagoon
#

it's hard to take someone who starts their posts with "IT IS THE MOST BULLSHIT BOSS I HAVE EVER FACED NOW" seriously

hollow pier
#

it's hard to take someone who starts their posts with Thanks! ❤ seriously

cunning lagoon
hollow pier
#

oh no don't remove me from your friends list

cunning lagoon
#

ok i will not

hollow pier
#

Thanks! ❤

cunning lagoon
#

You are welcome 🙂

hollow pier
#

😄

vapid cape
#

People are allowed to get exasperated at content they don't know well as long as they don't act like an idiot about it, like the dude who told TC to kill themselves

cunning lagoon
#

nah soul tyrant is unfair

#

also i've seen some people say that apparently traitor lord is nerfed?

copper nacelle
#

yeah

cunning lagoon
#

i'm fairly sure that's not true

copper nacelle
#

idk he seems slower

hazy sentinel
#

just die to fsms

cunning lagoon
#

i think it's in your head

hollow pier
#

ddark is a direct nerf

cunning lagoon
#

nah he didn't get nerfed

copper nacelle
#

huh

#

also eeeee

#

i got to climb

hazy sentinel
#

climb what

copper nacelle
#

phase

cunning lagoon
#

56 and dying to climb

#

name a more iconic duo

hazy sentinel
#

vys and anime

copper nacelle
#

i mean what

cunning lagoon
#

it really do be like that

hollow pier
#

haha yes

copper nacelle
#

help i'm considering dashmaster again

hazy sentinel
#

why

copper nacelle
#

is this ngg

#

cause balls

#

reeee

hollow pier
#

dodge lol

hazy sentinel
#

balls are free

cunning lagoon
#

consider pogos

copper nacelle
hollow pier
#

mop

cunning lagoon
#

imagine actually getting mop

#

over fstrength

hazy sentinel
#

swap dashmaster for fury

hollow pier
#

use anything over mop

copper nacelle
#

but easy soul

hazy sentinel
#

really makes u think

copper nacelle
#

you can reach rad

#

which lets you hit rad

#

which lets you get soul

#

u see

hazy sentinel
#

you can also jump higher

cunning lagoon
#

perhaps your charm choices are the reason you die to climb

copper nacelle
#

eee

#

what if i use fluke

hollow pier
#

why

#

use shriek

copper nacelle
#

this is a good idea

cunning lagoon
#

consider up + quick cast

hollow pier
#

or double fireball

vapid cape
#

traitor lord nerf is placebo, I'm 98% certain

cunning lagoon
#

yeah

vapid cape
#

godhome traitor and vids of lifeblood traitor seem just about identical

cunning lagoon
#

some guy saying "wtf traitor lord is soooo slow now" and everyone else just believing it

copper nacelle
hazy sentinel
#

it's your time

cunning lagoon
#

also reminder that you can just jump the horizontal nail walls

#

and it's better than dashing

#

also looks cooler

hazy sentinel
#

tallest ones are kinda gay though

cunning lagoon
#

yeah

copper nacelle
#

dashmaster garbage

#

fluke garbage

hollow pier
#

i would rather do overextensions and have to do madman pogos to get back

copper nacelle
#

sprintmaster garbo

#

back to

#

MoP

hazy sentinel
#

local 15 year old realizes he made a bad decision

hollow pier
#

entering sophomore year was his first one

hazy sentinel
#

math reasoning is fun

hollow pier
#

what is math reasoning

hazy sentinel
#

a class

hollow pier
#

oh ok

hazy sentinel
#

proofs/logic

floral furnace
#

sprintmaster is like the best charm in terms of buffs to notch cost ratio wtf are you talking about

cunning lagoon
#

haha naah

floral furnace
#

haha yes

copper nacelle
#

best charm in terms of fuck up my dodging to notch cost ratio

floral furnace
#

that would be dashmaster

copper nacelle
#

no

cunning lagoon
#

that would be sharp shadow

vapid cape
#

I can't use sharp shadow for that reason

#

I find it very hard to get used to

floral furnace
#

but the extended dash is the best part

cunning lagoon
#

haha yes sharp shadow is best for pop 😃

hollow pier
#

btw is alternate to shriek pos without ss

#

it is right

cunning lagoon
#

what

hollow pier
#

shriek skip yes

#

the alternative

#

possible

#

without

#

sharp shadow

cunning lagoon
#

probably

#

maybe you'd have to hit the highest wingmould on the right side instead of the left

hollow pier
#

monstah wr not the best with only dashmaster

cunning lagoon
#

i thought we already established that shriek skip wasn't that good

#

also he wastes like 1-1.5s on the kingmoulds

hollow pier
#

yeah but it's cool

#

to be tbh your wingmould pogos look slow

#

on end of first room

cunning lagoon
#

ok

hollow pier
#

i go straight up

cunning lagoon
#

my cdash looks slow PepeHands

weary oyster
#

platforming wise im pretty sure monstahs wr is near unbeatable without sharp shadow strats

hollow pier
#

no it has free timesaves

cunning lagoon
#

yeah it's very clean

hollow pier
#

i think sub2:10 with a TAS

weary oyster
#

lmfao

cunning lagoon
#

but there's still like 1s to be saved on the kingmoulds

#

so it's not unbeatable

#

ok i just rewatched it his 3rd room is also slow

#

you can beat the second vertical saw so that would be another timesave

#

(i dont make that either)

copper nacelle
floral furnace
#

not even using the updated version theres still artefacts at the sides

copper nacelle
#

give

floral furnace
#

deleted already

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

copper nacelle
#

why

floral furnace
#

it was taking up my desktop space

copper nacelle
cunning lagoon
#

what

hollow pier
#

and you decide to delete that

floral furnace
#

yes

hollow pier
#

i would delete anything else

floral furnace
#

tbf i dump all my shit on the desktop, even some of my sourcecode files

exotic venture
#

i think what he meant was "i didn't like that much it in the end so i got rid of it"

#

dunno.

copper nacelle
#

u

exotic venture
#

ur mum

hollow pier
copper nacelle
#

ur granny

fair rampart
cunning lagoon
#

ptk asking the real questions

exotic venture
#

ur auntie

copper nacelle
#

because those are both probably broken and no one uses them

fair rampart
#

nice

floral furnace
#

yes use our holy savior modcommon and hooks hklove

exotic venture
#

also the only reason is because i can't delete it LUL

#

physically can't

hollow pier
#

hack simo

cunning lagoon
#

@ mods can we get a delet on the #hk-lore above??

#

ayy i didnt mess it up this time

exotic venture
#

nice

floral furnace
#

also i think the transition in hook is broken during rad fight, i had it setup to set alpha at fade out to 0 and 1 at fade in, but falling into radiance damage pit causes the 0 alpha but it doesnt go back again during fade in

hollow pier
#

kuro now sweating every time he tries this meme

cunning lagoon
#

also i think the transition in hook is broken during rad fight, i had it setup to set alpha at fade out to 0 and 1 at fade in, but falling into radiance damage pit causes the 0 alpha but it doesnt go back again during fade in

floral furnace
#

dlk pls

cunning lagoon
#

if it's 2 lines long it's a pasta

hollow pier
#

Overall very good, no offense to ur gameplay but there were a lot of deaths that wasted time, try again to get a no death WR that would be really impressive. Good job.

floral furnace
#

ur a pasta

copper nacelle
#

yeah i think the scene load hooks are dead

#

use the unity ones to be tbh

floral furnace
#

nice

copper nacelle
#

UnityEngine.SceneManagement.SceneManager.sceneChanged

#

i don't use the non-unity scene hooks so i didn't notice

floral furnace
#

ok ok

#

ModCommon more like MonomonmodCommon

copper nacelle
#

monomod hooks are api now tho

#

ModCommon more like ExtensionCommon

fair rampart
#

it is just as I feared

#

the scenes for different pantheons are shared, so there are not independent scenes for each room and spa

#

my dreams of panth randomizer

#

gone forever

hexed swan
#

it's not gone forever if you force team cherry to integrate it as a base feature hollowface

#

that's definitely how it could potentiall work maybe

hollow pier
#

close your eyes and give yourself short term memory loss

#

easy win

cunning lagoon
#

What?? This doesn't even make sense!!

copper nacelle
#

i can't tell what level of irony this is on

exotic venture
#

can they also reimplement lever hitting through walls, thorns OOB and easier storage thanks

cunning lagoon
#

just use qol when 56 decides to add that into it

copper nacelle
#

@fair rampart e

#

ur wrong

hollow pier
#

yo when is pause to gain control

copper nacelle
#

just use the built in class

vivid summit
#

endless pantheon: each boss is randomly picked and given a slight health boost if its a repeat. Yes, EACH AND EVERY BOSS. This means your first could be absrad or PV

copper nacelle
#

absolute dungo

vivid summit
#

cant wait for someone to make a mod like that

copper nacelle
#

i should do that

vivid summit
#

if at all possible

fair rampart
#

?built in class?

hollow pier
#

oh no doing the bosses in a different order

#

big difficult

cunning lagoon
#

but they get a health boost

hollow pier
#

oh no regular nkg

cunning lagoon
#

lmao

hollow pier
#

big difficult

exotic venture
#

oh no gruz mother

copper nacelle
#

add a speed boost

#

eventually 1.75x nkg

vivid summit
#

yes, it needs to be a speed boost

copper nacelle
#

would be fun

exotic venture
#

wait no that's empress muzznik

#

we're all doomed

fair rampart
#

give him lens flare eyes when he hits max speed

#

I kind of wish I could take a hacksaw to hk's code and just see what it looks like

copper nacelle
#

that hacksaw is called dnspy

floral furnace
#

except if you wanna see the rest of the 60% youre gonna have to use an fsm viewer :^)

fair rampart
#

but does it let me view the whole source code is my question

#

i'm using dnspy right now, but I'm kind of dumb so I don't know how to use it best

copper nacelle
#

fsm viewer if you wanna see fsms tbh

#

other than that i think that's really all tbh

fair rampart
#

scenes and reflection are my kryptonite

cunning lagoon
#

use a mirror

fair rampart
#

not sure if I'll need to use an fsm viewer to get the appropriate info for moving a player through pantheons at will and having them end up in the right spot when they need to

copper nacelle
#

you don't

fair rampart
#

should simply be a case of finding the variables it uses to determine how far along the player is and manipulating those with some caching to make sure it doesn't explode

#

maybe it's tied to BossDoorCompletionStates

copper nacelle
#

really wonder what it could be

fair rampart
#

die 56 die

copper nacelle
#

i wish

floral furnace
#

haha yes

cunning lagoon
#

just build lol

hollow pier
cunning lagoon
#

thats like hiding your hud to take a screenshot of the environment

#

but the opposite

young walrus
#

hello darkness my old fraaaaaaaaaaand

hollow pier
#

how do you even select the top boxes

#

oh

#

just do it but the cursor doesn't exist

cunning lagoon
#

nice!

hollow pier
#

wait but is there an actual way

cunning lagoon
#

to do what

hollow pier
#

select top boxes

cunning lagoon
#

in debug?

hollow pier
#

or really anything

#

yes

cunning lagoon
#

you pause

hollow pier
#

o

weary oyster
#

can u actually kill them

#

with 999 dmg nail

hollow pier
#

idk but i don't care to find out

weary oyster
#

lazy tbh

hollow pier
cunning lagoon
hollow pier
#

u ever try to setup pfloat but forget you're invuln

cunning lagoon
#

no bc i dont know how to get float

#

or any glitch for that matter

hollow pier
#

cancer dash is pretty ok tbh

cunning lagoon
#

ok get it in a run while still doing everything else perfectly

hollow pier
#

all i have to do is cdash once lol

cunning lagoon
#

also reminder that there's a second cancer dash at the end of the room

#

but that one feels easier

hollow pier
#

is it just dashing between the saws

cunning lagoon
#

yea

#

im not sure if its easier/harder than the first one but it feels easier

hollow pier
#

last room cdash setup is the hardest part change my mind

cunning lagoon
#

🤔

hollow pier
#

pop backwards is actually big meme

cunning lagoon
#

pop backwards is impossible GWmythiFeelsBadMan

hollow pier
#

nsoob

cunning lagoon
#

sorry i dont know what that is

leaden hedge
#

pop forwards is literally impossible

cunning lagoon
#

yes

leaden hedge
#

i've read reviews and reddit

cunning lagoon
#

it is known

compact sedge
#

I mean it's not called the path of parties

leaden hedge
#

doesn't have to be a party to be fun

#

maybe he is into bdsm

#

and really expected pop to be fun

compact sedge
#

and also mario party is pain

leaden hedge
#

I thought that wasn't out till next month

hollow pier
#

i made it once

#

time to run this now

cunning lagoon
#

what did you make

hollow pier
#

pop backwards

cunning lagoon
#

lmao

hollow pier
#

it's nsoob so i could just dgate invuln but is that fun

cunning lagoon
#

major glitches 🤢

leaden hedge
#

glitches are for bitches

#

git gud noob

hollow pier
#

how do you even get dgate invuln

#

cdash storage > dgate > map out at right time

cunning lagoon
#

Hmm yes that's how I would do it

solemn rivet
#

hello fellow modders shitposters

cunning lagoon
#

Hello Gradow!

hollow pier
#

wait you actually can't do it with invuln

#

you need pfloat

cunning lagoon
#

Damn

hollow pier
#

ok

#

third room became cake

#

found a fall

cunning lagoon
#

do you start like at the end of the last room

#

or at the beginning

#

of the last room

hollow pier
#

i start from watch

cunning lagoon
#

whats watch

hollow pier
#

it tells you to watch

#

you stand there

cunning lagoon
#

what

hollow pier
#

did you even run this

#

the cutscene

#

watch

cunning lagoon
#

Oh

hollow pier
#

how else do i say this

cunning lagoon
#

So the end

hollow pier
#

if you wanna be all technical

cunning lagoon
#

ok so

#

what about a mod that adds a platform here

#

so you can stand on that and do pop backwards from there

#

56 tsart working on it

hollow pier
#

no thanks

#

need the meme pfloat

cunning lagoon
#

also there would have to be a way to do the first room

hollow pier
#

oh no

#

i have made a grave mistake

#

turned on invuln fell oob

cunning lagoon
#

haha yes you definitely dont want that happening

hollow pier
cunning lagoon
#

it looks like the pop

hollow pier
#

massive think

cunning lagoon
#

if i am not mistaken

#

to make the first room beatable backwards you could add a bunch of saws to the fall

#

which would no longer be a fall

#

now i want to make this mod

hollow pier
#

why did tc make the spikes jut out one pixel on the wall

#

this affects literally no one but me

#

shit is this what it's like to be krythom

leaden hedge
#

ur gay

#

thats why

hollow pier
#

ok pop backwards runs tmrw maybe

cunning lagoon
#

ok so @copper nacelle would it be possible to

  1. add a few saws to a room in the pop
  2. make a platform to stand on in the last room
  3. make going through the pop loading zone take you to said platform in the last room
    and if so how hard would it be
hollow pier
#

why

cunning lagoon
#

to do it backwards nmg

hollow pier
#

ok

#

but then it's modded

cunning lagoon
#

otherwise it's impossible

hollow pier
#

ok

#

then don't do it

cunning lagoon
#

but i want to do it

hollow pier
#

ok

#

then do it nsoob

cunning lagoon
#

but i don't want to do it nsoob

hollow pier
#

ok

#

then don't do it

cunning lagoon
#

but i want to do it nmg

hollow pier
#

ok

#

goodnight

cunning lagoon
#

lmao going to sleep at

#

10:02 PM

hollow pier
#

hi back

cunning lagoon
#

LMAO NICE

hollow pier
#

LOL ME TOO

#

ok cool bye

cunning lagoon
#

I did not enjoy this

summer badge
#

i've forgotten, once i install the API, how do i set the actual mods up

cunning lagoon
#

second pin here

summer badge
#

thanks but that's not entirely what i'm looking for

fair rampart
#

do you have the mod installer, or did you install the API manually?

cunning lagoon
#

if you want to install them manually, first pin here

#

drag them into hollow_knight_Data/Managed/Mods

summer badge
#

i'm trying to analyze glass soul to understand how to design mods for hollow knight, and i've been using microsoft visual studio but it doesn't really work atm cause it's referring to a lot of stuff that's part of the api etc etc and so i need to install it and then look at it and maybe make sense of how things work

cunning lagoon
#

oh ok i thought you wanted to ask how to install them

summer badge
#

cause im getting a billion errors where it's talking about herocontroller and playerdata which visual studio doesn't know what to do with cause the mod isn't in the right place yet

fair rampart
#

you'll need to set up references to the right places

summer badge
#

how

fair rampart
#

right click References in the file view, navigate to hollow_knight_Data/Managed, and include Assembly-CSharp.dll and UnityEngine.dll

#

you may need other UnityEngine sub-dlls for lots of various things

#

there's little documentation on this kind of thing

summer badge
#

awesome thanks

#

it worked

copper nacelle
#

@cunning lagoon I don't think that'd be too hard

cunning lagoon
#

sick

floral furnace
#

question am i going too far that i want to edit the entire sprite sheet just so i can edit a CIA cap on the knight just to complement the mod

copper nacelle
leaden hedge
#

probably won't work unless the hat fits in the same bounds as the knight

#

if you wanted a less effory shitposty way of doing it you could just draw one sprite and make it follow his head

floral furnace
#

that would make it akward when the player does some other post unless i rotate it too in regards to whatever direction the knight is looking at, but thats also the cleanest and easiest way of implementing it too

#

but tbf putting enough effort just to edit every sprite for the knight to wear a hat is dumb to begin with so the follow his head idea is good enough as it is

leaden hedge
#

honestly if you want to do it

#

make a sprite and a bunch of animations that match the knights animations names

#

and align it correctly in that animation on a perframe basis

#

then you can just swap out the sprite for any hat

floral furnace
#

i havent even added gun sprites yet im already thinking of doing this but that sounds alot better

trim totem
#

make the elderbug's talk animation a gun coming out of his mouth

native widget
#

You know what would be better? Dream diving (Alpha dream nail)

hollow pier
#

ok so there's some fancy wall storage you can do i guess

#

wait

#

i wonder if i can get wall storage to skip tunnel

tranquil glen
solemn rivet
#

2meirl5meirl

rain cedar
#

"Beautiful day" is just a euphemism for "Go outside and you'll get major sunburns"

copper nacelle
#

yes

tranquil glen
#

I still dont know what causes the game to lag so much after loading savestates repeatedly

#

There shouldn't be anything building up over time

copper nacelle
#

does it load the scene again

rain cedar
#

My guess is there is stuff building up over time

tranquil glen
#

It uses changetoscene iirc

#

Does thay not delete?

rain cedar
#

Nah it should

tranquil glen
#

I cant look atm cause im in a class but i dont think there's anything that would build up

#

Also fucking boring ass class btw

#

We've been learning about adding binary numbers for the past like hour amd a half

#

I fucking get it already

rain cedar
#

Maybe someone could help you if your code existed somewhere online

#

Like github

tranquil glen
#

Its on github

rain cedar
#

Oh you actually did that

tranquil glen
#

Ye

#

Called MiniDebug

hazy sentinel
#

kry did u know 01+01=10

summer badge
#

i'm not really sure how to use ModHooks here

solemn rivet
#

like I said, add the API as a reference

#

Project, Refereces, Add references

summer badge
#

ik

solemn rivet
#

go to Browse and select the modding API

summer badge
#

i thought ModCommon was the modding API

solemn rivet
#

no

hollow pier
#

that's a modcommon misconception