#archived-modding-development

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cunning lagoon
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you are not wrong

hazy sentinel
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trinomi trash confirmed

hollow pier
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oh wait

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ok i'll stick with that

cunning lagoon
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also where does the look down thing work

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i used it on the stag stations and i didnt notice a difference

hollow pier
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everywhere

hazy sentinel
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cp toll

cunning lagoon
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it is very noticeable on cp

hollow pier
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you didn't look down good enough

hazy sentinel
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hold down 100% of the time

cunning lagoon
hazy sentinel
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hk beaten in one down press

hollow pier
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  • a ton of shady shit
slow fable
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0.5 down presses if you enter the game holding it

hazy sentinel
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a down press is a down press, you can't say it's only half

hollow pier
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he just did

slow fable
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well, veru "by the its name" lean

keen surge
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egg

cunning lagoon
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egg

slow fable
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10

hollow pier
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also i turned off autocorrect and type fine ktytom is just bad

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i just have to type slower and manual apostrophes suck

cunning lagoon
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💪 🥚 🍤

keen surge
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how many eggs do you have to eat

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before you make your lemm turn pink

hazy sentinel
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depends on the type of egg

keen surge
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arcane

slow fable
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lemm eat 10 rancid egg

hollow pier
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machine

hazy sentinel
hollow pier
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emilitia

compact sedge
hollow pier
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is that how you spell it

cunning lagoon
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how do you kill the 2 boomerang mantis in queen's gardens

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quickly

hazy sentinel
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fireball

frosty igloo
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hit them

hazy sentinel
hollow pier
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doublehit the first one

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then prioritize killing the far one

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hopefully double them idk

cunning lagoon
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ive been pogoing them as they spawn then finishing them off with a fireball

hazy sentinel
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triple hit the fourth petra

cunning lagoon
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but the last one is a fucking pita

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i almost died to them on my last run and i had to take the corny bench

hollow pier
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imagine dying to arena

hazy sentinel
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cornywoke bench

cunning lagoon
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FeelsBadMan

hollow pier
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do you even know about the hazard respawn

cunning lagoon
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yeah

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i also missed that once

hollow pier
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wow kuro knows something

cunning lagoon
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also almost died to uumuu

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and to qga

hollow pier
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where's 2cycle

hazy sentinel
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run glitched ez qga

cunning lagoon
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let me know if you figure it out

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because i sure as hell dont know

hollow pier
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qga is still faster in glitched stay woker

cunning lagoon
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can someone just discover an uumuu skip already

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and make it not a major glitch

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thank you very much

hollow pier
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that's just myla%

hazy sentinel
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can someone make televator not a major glitch thanks

cunning lagoon
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also your tip for the dark room helped out a lot

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thank you

hollow pier
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ok

cunning lagoon
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ok

hazy sentinel
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Gгåδøш!

cunning lagoon
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Gгåδøш!

hollow pier
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Gгåδøш!

sour oriole
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hey, this mod says Glorify charms by completing pantheons, ive done all 5 on this save file but i dont have these 2 charms.
is there anyway else to get them ?

hollow pier
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do p6 lol

haughty mantle
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oh shit

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wheres download link to that

cunning lagoon
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📌

sour oriole
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idk, found it in the Modinstaller ¯_(ツ)_/¯

haughty mantle
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btw my account already has all the pantheons completed so can I still get glorified charms?

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I suppose I dont mind redoing all the pantheons

hollow pier
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no your account gets deleted

cunning lagoon
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your account GWchadMEGATHINK

haughty mantle
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my save file

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you know what I mean

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lol

young walrus
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your PC gets a trojan, then I take all your shit

frosty igloo
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where can i see what the glorified charms do can i have a link

cunning lagoon
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they get glorified if you rest in a bench

haughty mantle
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lol fxck you mon

cunning lagoon
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📌

sour oriole
cunning lagoon
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oh what they do

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^^ that

frosty igloo
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tx

hollow pier
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suggested add "c"

haughty mantle
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ty

weary oyster
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oh that palace rose is a really neat idea

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i like how it turns into WP thorns

sour oriole
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yeah, BUT HOW DO I GET IT.
its driving me nuts

haughty mantle
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you go to the green place

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uhhh

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the area full of plants

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lol greenpath

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cmon man

weary oyster
cunning lagoon
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its prob 12.5%

hollow pier
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depends if xhu does 56 math or actual math

young walrus
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does it depend on spell too?

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....i'm re-asking ax's question apparently

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nvm

solemn rivet
exotic venture
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thanks for the epilepsy warning

frosty igloo
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thanks for killing me

solemn rivet
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yw

compact sedge
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aaaaaaaaaaaa

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finally

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mop + LN + sharp shadow + turbo button dashing was too slow

solemn rivet
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that's actually too fast

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but ok

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like 10x as fast as I want it to be

cunning lagoon
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is this

solemn rivet
cunning lagoon
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explain

compact sedge
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laptops can have their batteries removed

frigid gale
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OOOO

cunning lagoon
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ill remove ur battery

frigid gale
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Hows the modding goin? idk im here...

cunning lagoon
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going well thank you

frigid gale
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yeeee

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good to know...

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Know If only I could do something with modding.

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Plan to do at least something with each part of this

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art has been....started?

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Speed Running.

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Ahhh.

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no.

buoyant obsidian
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?

young walrus
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wtf you on about

frigid gale
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Not doing that one

cunning lagoon
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haha yers

frigid gale
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IDK

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Ima stop talking now

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Here....

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Specfically

solemn rivet
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also, just for the record, I've finally got what was breaking my superdash

cunning lagoon
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NICE!!

solemn rivet
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it's the effing Move()

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it fucking runs every frame

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and overrides all movement

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but ONLY if it's horizontal

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that's why I could move up/down no problem

cunning lagoon
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will it no longer run at 80fps for me

solemn rivet
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but couldn't move left/rght

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dunno dlk

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I have no idea why it even runs at that rate in the first place

cunning lagoon
frigid gale
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I mean I wanna do something with each group of dis community ( cuz its so gewd)

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That was not explained well.

solemn rivet
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right

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can you art good

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cause we need people who can art good

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so far we only got papers

frigid gale
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I mean

solemn rivet
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but he has been reported missing so

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

frigid gale
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I started with the art.

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Jmask helped me alot yesterday

young walrus
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and Xhuis, who did all his own art

solemn rivet
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oh yeah, and Xhu

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even tho his art is mostly recoloring stuffs

cunning lagoon
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wow rude

frigid gale
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Oof.

young walrus
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dafuq you want dlk

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you use this as a speedrunning channel

cunning lagoon
frigid gale
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uh oh did I start an argument by accident...

solemn rivet
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if only he was speedrunning modded content

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no argument

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we're all friends here

cunning lagoon
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maybe i am 👀

solemn rivet
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darkness% when

frigid gale
cunning lagoon
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idk what that is

solemn rivet
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o

frigid gale
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Oh I though he was talking about chaos mode

solemn rivet
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u know those dark rooms?

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that need the lantern

cunning lagoon
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yea

solemn rivet
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KDT made a mod that makes every room like that

frigid gale
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Is there a mod th

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yeah

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Okay

solemn rivet
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including bosses

cunning lagoon
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ah

frigid gale
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Oh god

cunning lagoon
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im not playing that thank you

slow fable
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i'd play it

solemn rivet
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according to him, NGG dark mode is literally impossible

frigid gale
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You can try a speed increase speed run

solemn rivet
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(allegedly)

frigid gale
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Making Speed Run Literal

solemn rivet
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@leaden hedge does dark mod work in 1.4.2.4?

compact sedge
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I mean if KDT had his way NGG would be literally impossible too

solemn rivet
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KDT is literally satan

leaden hedge
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it should work

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I don't have hollow knight updated so I dunno

frigid gale
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He might be

solemn rivet
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do you have the binaries?

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I can't find them

frigid gale
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He looks like a gaming channel that I really DONT wanna watch

cunning lagoon
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what

compact sedge
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?avatar @leaden hedge

autumn shardBOT
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KDT#7539
Avatar
solemn rivet
compact sedge
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I can see it

leaden hedge
solemn rivet
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ty

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brb

compact sedge
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like a 15 second intro with the letters appearing and rotating on screen and then it cuts to a 10 year old kid:

"Hey guys, its KDT here, and today we're going to be pwning more fags on call of duty ghosts."

solemn rivet
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2meirl4meirl

leaden hedge
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when I was 10 it'd be unreal 2004 or quake 3 arena

solemn rivet
leaden hedge
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the only reason it wouldn't work is if they renamed the vignette game object

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or the textures on it

solemn rivet
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it works

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dlk get on it

cunning lagoon
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haha no

frigid gale
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That's so FUCKING DARK

compact sedge
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woah there's a wall on the left side of godhome?

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I never knew this

frigid gale
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Get blinded by a full brightness screen in midnight and then try to see anything

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It's that lvl of darkness

solemn rivet
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can I upload this on the drive, KDT?

leaden hedge
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you can if you want

solemn rivet
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ok

leaden hedge
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darkmod isn't really that hard anyway

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most stuff just dies to spells

compact sedge
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I mean just set your gamma to 9.7 in software

leaden hedge
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won't really help

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that texture its 100% black for most of it

compact sedge
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hold on I just set my green gamma really high let me try it

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it's like I have really shitty nightvision

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(btw this actually worked really well for a few dark areas in guild wars 2)

leaden hedge
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kinda wish the shaders for this game weren't weird

compact sedge
leaden hedge
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cause then I could write a shader that changed the opacity of a pixel depending on distance from player

compact sedge
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wait why did that screenshot look normal

leaden hedge
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so you could still see the background, but enemies and terrain would fade in at close range

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so you wouldn't just see a bunch of black 99% of the time

compact sedge
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I can't take a screenshot because spectacle ignores xrandr but you are right

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I hate when games don't let me cheat them in obvious ways.

solemn rivet
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added to the drive+xml

leaden hedge
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sorry

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ill make it just really dark

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and not black

compact sedge
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lul

hollow pier
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blackmod inc

compact sedge
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compare yourself to gradow, who, when making blackmoth, added an obvious cheat that actually worked.

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I mean I don't think he added it intentionally but

solemn rivet
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wut

compact sedge
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turbo blackmoth

hollow pier
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deleted 753's hk on purpose

solemn rivet
summer tapir
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hey, I wanted to play the rando and downgrade, do you guys have somewhere a guide to do that?

leaden hedge
summer tapir
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ah sweet

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thanks

young walrus
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you'll have to manually install the mods tho

summer tapir
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thats how it was before too orr not`?

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like dragging them into that one folder along with the API

solemn rivet
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sure

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but if playing on current patch, you can just use the installer

young walrus
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see comments ~10 lines up

summer tapir
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for item rando v. 1.3.1.5 is enough?

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or do I have to go further down

fair rampart
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hello gamers

slow fable
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hello gamer

young walrus
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1315 is good

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you'll need rando v2 tho

summer tapir
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oki

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and the API right?

young walrus
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yes. delete all the old stuff

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and you'll need modcommon

odd jetty
summer tapir
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I would assume that channel is for actual programming or not?

solemn rivet
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no, it's the opposite

weary oyster
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this is the one with all the memes

cunning lagoon
summer tapir
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oh

compact sedge
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this is actually the speedrunning channel

frigid gale
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wait.

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I think it's labelled wrong

compact sedge
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hey I didn't ask for this I don't even run the game

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but a lot of the active people in this channel do

frigid gale
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lol

fair rampart
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did anyone have any questions about exaltation after I went to bed?

buoyant obsidian
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I thought this was the ask 56 how to do stuff channel

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Someone came by and said they love it

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idk about questions

young walrus
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how do switch to vanilla versions of the charms if you want

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like.... quickslash

fair rampart
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it's not reversible right now but I'm looking into a way to do that

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I can't really think of a good solution for it

summer tapir
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I think my downgrade failed, still have my sweet zote background zote

odd jetty
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did you wait for the download to complete and replaced the files?

summer tapir
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nope, I skipped that part cirSmug the guide says look for the folder in the console, but my console is spammed with crap, not sure where the folder is supposed to be

young walrus
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then stop clicking all over

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the console will tell you where the folder is when it's done

urban olive
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Are reshade options a mod?

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Wait wrong chat

sour oriole
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How much can you do with HK modding?
im interested in UI changes, complete game overhauls.
Something as simple as adding a new 41st charm a special enemy that drops a special item(say Primal aspid mother drops the 12th notch slot)
Or having something like Poise with steady body, you know for withstanding the hits and poise through them, something the boulder shell didnt deliver.

compact sedge
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you can do anything if you're prepared to hack your way through unity and TC and playmaker code.

sour oriole
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im not a modder, but for a modder thats familiar with with the game code, how hard is it?

compact sedge
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very. you'd have a much easier time with almost every other unity game. But we have monomod hooks which rock so that's one advantage we have over some other games.

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mostly because playmaker

sour oriole
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Shame, the game can use some serious QoL changes, some creativity wouldnt hurt
I loved playing through the game with Lightbringer, it was amazing

compact sedge
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fwiw it's easier to mod than salt and sanctuary if only because the salt modding api barely exists.

copper nacelle
compact sedge
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56 pls

copper nacelle
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why do I exist

cunning lagoon
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nice

sour oriole
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it doesnt, i tried my best at modding salt and i did was some texture change and i brought back unused armor

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also some balance mods

compact sedge
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it does exist

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you should use the api

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it won't make your life a lot easier

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but cmon man assembly mods are bad

sour oriole
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i quit modding when they released 1.0.0.7
broke all my shit and i was done with it

compact sedge
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that's why assembly mods are bad

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never make assembly mods

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that's my recommendation

sour oriole
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that was the only thing we had

compact sedge
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well technically all our mods are assembly mods but I mean mods editing the vanilla DLL files

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that's why modding APIs exist

fair rampart
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@copper nacelle b/c people need to make mods and you're the encyclopedia intenseface

compact sedge
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I mean there's technically documentation

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it's just uh

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....

fair rampart
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TODO

compact sedge
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it's not my docs

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even tho I'm hosting it

copper nacelle
compact sedge
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this is why having a green name is a curse btw

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you never want it xhuis

copper nacelle
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also add yourself to the drive when

fair rampart
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?drive?

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@copper nacelle also yeah that's me

cunning lagoon
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¿drive?

fair rampart
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t b h a lot of what I've done in the process of making exaltation is "post error in chat and see if anyone knows how to fix it"

copper nacelle
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gdrive

fair rampart
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granted, I've gotten a lot more knowledgeable

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but still

copper nacelle
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where the mods are

compact sedge
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hey Xhuis once you're added to the google drive delete everyone else's mods when they aren't paying attention.

fair rampart
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when I looked exaltation was already there

copper nacelle
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yes but then you can update it yourself and I can safely cease exist

fair rampart
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fair

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let me get the fuckin uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh link

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it's in modhelp pins, right?

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yar here we are

copper nacelle
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first pin here tbh

fair rampart
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can never remember

copper nacelle
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dm someone your email

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then u exist

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ez

fair rampart
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sent to you

copper nacelle
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ok

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you exist

fair rampart
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thanks!

copper nacelle
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wtf

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adding it to the folder doesn't add everything

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is this loss

fair rampart
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1.0.2.0 should be on there now

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ye it is

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I started including version numbers in the readme so it's easy to check

copper nacelle
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did you delete the old one or did you manage versions

fair rampart
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I deleted the old one

copper nacelle
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agony

fair rampart
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i mean

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github still has the old versions handy as releases

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but I removed the old zip from the drive

copper nacelle
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the modinstaller pulls from a set link

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so when you update use manage versions

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and then rename it if you want to

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there's also a modlinks.xml file

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you have to change the shasum there otherwise it'll always ask to update noot

fair rampart
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2 minutes til the pizza's ready let's shotgun this

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i have no idea how to use this

copper nacelle
fair rampart
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ok the pizza's done; I'll read what you post once I have it out and cut

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3-meat stuffed crust 😤 👌

copper nacelle
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so you right click the new zip and click the thing which says get link

leaden hedge
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needs more meat

copper nacelle
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then you download the modlinks.xml

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and edit exaltation's url's ID to be the same as the one in the link you just copied

compact sedge
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that's a lot of meat

copper nacelle
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then you have to change the shasum

compact sedge
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(I'm a vegan crossfitting atheistic arch linux user, just thought you should know)

copper nacelle
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if you have git bash/mingw/wsl you can run shasum file

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otherwise just Google shasum checker or something and put the dll there

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then you swap the old shasum for the new one

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save the file

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then go to the gdrive

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right click the old modlinks and hit manage versions

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then upload => select your copy

fair rampart
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mk

copper nacelle
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Mario kart

fair rampart
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yes

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the shareable link for my zip file appears to be open?id=blah instead of the rest which have uc?export=download&id=bla

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is that a problem

sour oriole
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So i saw this post at reddit with a giant primal aspid, anyone knows what mod it is/what it does?

fair rampart
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photoshop probably

sour oriole
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:/

fair rampart
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afaik mods can't do anything like that yet

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could be wrong

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they can resize primal aspids but that's all

copper nacelle
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no it isn't

fair rampart
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i guess sprite sheet swaps are also possible

copper nacelle
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that's an enemy rando boss

sour oriole
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ok, then tell me how playing with Blackmoth/redwing feels?
which one is better and what not

fair rampart
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I ask because there's two posts involving giant primal aspids on there right now

copper nacelle
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it lives at Dirtmouth

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and hunts you

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it has lots of hp

fair rampart
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one with an artist one that looks like a different enemy entirely and one that's just a larger aspid

copper nacelle
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and summons aspids minions

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it's pain

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also Xhuis for the link thing yeah you need to copy the id from the open one into uc? one

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for it to work

fair rampart
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gotcha

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so I have the updated xml file

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i have no idea what shasum is but I imagine I run that xml through it

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I do have git bash

sour oriole
copper nacelle
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that's enemy rando

cunning lagoon
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This is gold.

sour oriole
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It is Gold 😂

fair rampart
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yeah, there's a mod that randomizes enemy positions

cunning lagoon
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who did this 😂 👌

fair rampart
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p sure someone was posting a picture of NKG rushing at them in greenpath

copper nacelle
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you don't run the XML through it

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you run your mod dll through it

fair rampart
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nothing appears to have happened

solemn rivet
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wdym

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get the sha1sum of you dll

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and update the xml with it

fair rampart
copper nacelle
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quotes

fair rampart
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o

solemn rivet
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quotes

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"SHASUM PRISON"

copper nacelle
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also no windows paths

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it'd be like

solemn rivet
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otherwise it treats the space as a break

fair rampart
copper nacelle
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/d/SHASUM\ PRISON/Exaltation.dll

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yeah that's right

solemn rivet
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nice

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now open the xml

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find your mod

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change the link

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and the sha1

copper nacelle
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is the \ part of it tbh

fair rampart
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so the link is changed to the current zip on teh google drive and the SHA1 has been updated to the correct dll

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what now?

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oh right, you posted that

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let me scrooooooooll upp

solemn rivet
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now you drag and drop it in the gdrive

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and be sure to update, not create a new file

fair rampart
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shasum redemption

solemn rivet
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if you wanna be sure, right click the xml and "manage versions"

fair rampart
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new version uploaded

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so now everything should be happy and the mod should be updated?

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woohoo

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tres excellente

sour oriole
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Actual multiplayer possible ?
Yes or No

fair rampart
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@copper nacelle thanks for the help

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@sour oriole 99.99% chance no

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but technically nothing is impossible with enough code hacks

sour oriole
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😕

compact sedge
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no you rock

sour oriole
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Hacks laden with loot, are often low on effort

compact sedge
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you're the one who actually made it

leaden hedge
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define possible

fair rampart
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the game is written from the ground up on singleplayer; changing that would require either a lot of hacky code and the game being tricked into thinking it was still singleplayer, or rewriting it at the foundation

exotic venture
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dreamshield co-op

compact sedge
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ez just make dreamshield controllable

sour oriole
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possible: can happen in the near future

fair rampart
leaden hedge
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it is possible to send the location of other players and their current state, and make them interact with stuff on your screen

compact sedge
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then not possible

leaden hedge
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it'd be janky on a bunch of levels

compact sedge
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it's possible to do almost anything given infinite time and resources and dedication

frigid gale
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sooo

fair rampart
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makes you gain 4 soul per 0.75s, but also removes your nail draining soul on hit and makes it deal spell damage instead of nail damage

frigid gale
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its a broken charm?

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broken as in op

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its

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its one notch

compact sedge
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have you tried the mod, all of the charms are broken

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it's pretty fun

sour oriole
#

hm, we already had Dream shield"coop" cant we have grimmchild coop 😅

frigid gale
#

noo I havent

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I should tho

fair rampart
#

it's intended to be a sidegrade/rework of attacking roughly equivalent in power if you adapt your playstyle

copper nacelle
#

@aa Is this u

compact sedge
#

I love taking really op shit into infinite grimm

fair rampart
#

it's a lot better for minion builds as well

compact sedge
#

because he can't die and if it's op enough neither can I

frigid gale
#

Which mod is that? is that the glorify that's being worked on?

fair rampart
#

imagine bonfire mod + steel tempest 👀

odd jetty
fair rampart
#

@frigid gale glorify mod (exaltation) is currently out, you can get it from the installer

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but that's one variant of the glorified NMG

frigid gale
#

what installer?

compact sedge
#

modinstaller

odd jetty
#

and I need to remove my photo of my github

frigid gale
#

I havent modded hk in a while

fair rampart
copper nacelle
compact sedge
sour oriole
#

I have a controller which you can put a button on turbo
So steel tempest+steady body+X on turbo

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you walk, they die

fair rampart
#

there are two variants of NMG; if you glorify without void heart it turns into sagesoul and if you glorify without it turns into Nailsage's Tenacity which just gives you 3% more nail damage per missing mask

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I'm probably gonna bump that down to 2% or 1%

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since for 1 notch it's uh

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strong

compact sedge
#

wait really? holy crap I did turbo blackmoth and it was OP as hell I need to try turbo with this mod.

leaden hedge
#

technically in a limited scope you could add a multiplayer component pretty easily

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i.e. you could add co-op to a single boss

fair rampart
#

also

leaden hedge
#

as that gets rid of awkward stuff like menus / transitions

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and is literally just sync 2 players in one room together

fair rampart
#

although steel tempest is described as uncapping swing speed, monsters have a delay on how often they can be hit, so not all hits will register

sour oriole
#

Oh no, im not talking 2PCs multiplayer kind of thing
im talking S&S multiplayer

fair rampart
#

as for power levels I've been aiming for "stronger by a decent margin but not super broken, just strong"

buoyant obsidian
#

I've always hated multi-hit limits in games

frigid gale
#

thhhaannkk you Angle

compact sedge
#

what does salt multiplayer do?

fair rampart
#

for the most part I think I've done ok at that

young walrus
#

doesn't matter. multiplayer has huge challenges in the way

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local or not

fair rampart
#

ST is balanced out by having a pretty large damage decrease i m o

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the only charms that cost 0 notches are ones that do very little or are sidegrades, i.e. compass/steady body

compact sedge
#

you super underestimate steady body

copper nacelle
#

steady body more like bad

odd jetty
#

Oh, btw, the mod installer simply place files into the directories, right?

fair rampart
#

ultimately since it's a singleplayer game most of my focus is on "is it fun to use" compared to "is it well-balanced" but I still have it in mind too

young walrus
#

yes

sour oriole
#

what, have you tried it with Quick slash?
you bully mobs

young walrus
#

it's a copy/paste helper

compact sedge
#

anyway I'm gonna make a hardmode monobehavior that you all will be able to copy and steal for any of your mods that makes enemies do more damage, have more health. Anything else I can put in there? I'd make enemies faster but IDK how to do that without also speeding up the knight.

odd jetty
#

can it execute a file if needed?

fair rampart
#

mathematically speaking ST is only a little better than QS due to the damage cap but mechanically speaking it's fun as hell because you can mash your attack key and swing as fast as you can press it

compact sedge
#

what's the usecase @odd jetty

haughty mantle
#

No glorified Grimm child?

sour oriole
#

ST and QS ?

compact sedge
#

@haughty mantle try grimmchild upgrades... for now I guess.

fair rampart
#

@haughty mantle I was aiming to but I couldn't figure out how just yet

haughty mantle
#

Oo ok

fair rampart
#

originally I wanted to make it spawn 2 grimmkids

odd jetty
#

My AI uses python so it might need to setup python (but I bet I don't have to) in the machine if I were to want to share it.

sour oriole
#

Do it, base damage, more accuracy
sounds good really, that with the bugs and spiders

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👌

haughty mantle
#

Minion meme builds

copper nacelle
#
UnityEngine.Object.Instantiate(GameObject.Find("Grimmchild (Clone)"))```

 @fair rampart
#

ez

cunning lagoon
#

make glorified grimmchild not attack oomas

sour oriole
#

is it really that ez ?

odd jetty
#

but probrably just pasting the virtual env is enough for it to be able to run

sour oriole
#

damn

fair rampart
#

@copper nacelle tried that a good bit but I couldn't get it to work grimm

copper nacelle
#

ask aa ez

compact sedge
#

to be tbh I wanna see a demo of what you're actually doing some time cerberus because it seems interesting and weird and I have no idea how it applies to HK.

odd jetty
#

The AI plays HK, ezzy

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and I just pasted a jupyter notebook with part of the code that builds the network zote

fair rampart
#

if I really wanted I could also make it shoot 3 fireballs at once like a primal aspid 👀

buoyant obsidian
#

is it better than me

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that's the real question

copper nacelle
#

you could

buoyant obsidian
#

replace grimmchild with a primal aspid

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and not a friendly one

sour oriole
#

I like the 2 grimm chileds idea better, also make them louder

copper nacelle
fair rampart
#

300% volume

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eternal nyaah

sour oriole
#

👍

cunning lagoon
#

glorified salubra's blessing is 10x louder

haughty mantle
#

Grimm child clones

odd jetty
fair rampart
#

ngl I actually gave my d&d group a grimmchild clone in their party with the same sounds and they are obsessed with it and think it's cute even though it follows them constantly

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makes you think

compact sedge
sour oriole
#

its cute tho

odd jetty
#

Replace grimchild with Na'vi

compact sedge
haughty mantle
#

Give Grimm tracking fireballs lol

copper nacelle
#

WaitForFinishedEnteringScene?

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isn't that a playmaker action

fair rampart
#

y'know it'd be cool if the GC looked towards breakable walls or something and hovered next to them when glorified

compact sedge
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

copper nacelle
#

and not a yield instruction

fair rampart
#

probably not easily doable tho

copper nacelle
#

that should just be waiting a frame

sour oriole
#

Oof i got it, make GrimmChild shoot those heatseeking things NKG shoots at you

compact sedge
#

no it's a yield 56

copper nacelle
#

wtf

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my life is a lie

compact sedge
#

it's a very hacky yield

haughty mantle
#

Fire bats?

compact sedge
#

but it's a yield

sour oriole
#

ye

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the bats

copper nacelle
#

can u show

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mobile is death

haughty mantle
#

GC flame pillars

copper nacelle
compact sedge
#
using HutongGames.PlayMaker;
using UnityEngine;

[ActionCategory("Hollow Knight")]
public class WaitForFinishedEnteringScene : FsmStateAction
{
  [RequiredField]
  public FsmEvent sendEvent;

  public override void Reset()
  {
    this.sendEvent = (FsmEvent) null;
  }

  public override void OnEnter()
  {
    if ((bool) ((Object) GameManager.instance))
    {
      if (!GameManager.instance.HasFinishedEnteringScene)
      {
        GameManager.EnterSceneEvent temp = (GameManager.EnterSceneEvent) null;
        temp = (GameManager.EnterSceneEvent) (() =>
        {
          this.Fsm.Event(this.sendEvent);
          GameManager.instance.OnFinishedEnteringScene -= temp;
          this.Finish();
        });
        GameManager.instance.OnFinishedEnteringScene += temp;
      }
      else
        this.Fsm.Event(this.sendEvent);
    }
    else
      this.Finish();
  }
}

this yield is shit btw

copper nacelle
#

wait but that's an FSM action

compact sedge
#

yeah and you can yield fsm actions

copper nacelle
#

tf

compact sedge
#

56 does this make your life a million times easier

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you can yield fsm actions

copper nacelle
#

maybe

haughty mantle
#

Glorified void heart -> free king soul

copper nacelle
#

does it actually work

odd jetty
#

thought that was a given, manipulating FSM with code

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I would be quite surprised if you couldn't

copper nacelle
#

cause FSM actions don't inherit from yield instructions

compact sedge
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

it runs the fsm action

#

and it only does it after the fsms have been serialized

#

so technically it works as advertised but not intentionally

#

I think

#

maybe it doesn't work but it doesn't matter given the code I wrote

copper nacelle
#

nice

fair rampart
#

I've always had this problem with code

#

where I'm awful at under the hood engine stuff

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but really good at content and flashy stuff

#

kind of a double edged sword

compact sedge
#

I have this problem where I'm really bad at code and also really bad at content

copper nacelle
#

me irl

compact sedge
#

I'm gonna make an unofficial hollow knight patch some day

#

but I'm lazy rn

fair rampart
#

me oh my

#

exaltation has come quite a ways since sprites on a google doc

#

lmao

#

originally it was just some designs in my head that I wrote down on a doc

odd jetty
#

I just need to learn to better document my code

copper nacelle
#

i should play this during mantis gods

fair rampart
cunning lagoon
#

play sisters of battle thank you

fair rampart
#

alexa play sisters of battle

sour oriole
#

How much can you improve on the Bonfire mod UI ?
If you indeed can improve on it why not make a UI for glorifying charms?
Make them cost Dream ¯_(ツ)_/¯

cunning lagoon
#

i don't want to spend Dream

fair rampart
#

I wasn't able to easily get a UI like that to work, after a few hours of trying

#

essence is also not meant for spending as a currency

copper nacelle
#

dream gate irl

sour oriole
#

true, but they are free, like really free

fair rampart
#

dream gate costs 1 essence per use and killing monsters has a pretty high chance to regain that after you use it

copper nacelle
#

also there's a var for essence spent so you can still get ascension

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even if you use up all your essence

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iirc

fair rampart
#

that's relieving

#

i'd probably make it require an awakened dream nail or somesuch just to be safe

cunning lagoon
#

it would still be a long ass grind to get back to 2.4k

frigid gale
#

Dood these glorify charms are kick ass so far

fair rampart
#

I'm generally anti-grind so

frigid gale
#

Ya doing goood

leaden hedge
#

ui is ez

fair rampart
#

you underestimate my power

leaden hedge
#

I made a thing to do it for you

#

thats how boss rush item selections work

fair rampart
#

o

sour oriole
#

Anti grind 👍
thats why you make more bosses drop essence or make bosses like White defender's 5 stages drop 400>600>800>1200>1400 essence or something similar

compact sedge
#

in my arcade mod that i scrapped you could get small amounts of essence for killing dream bosses again

fair rampart
#

I was also thinking about alternate themes for glorified charms

compact sedge
#

I scrapped it because soul tyrant is a PoS btw

fair rampart
#

that you could choose in the options menu

compact sedge
#

geeze how much drawing do you wanna do

leaden hedge
fair rampart
#

i.e. "normal" for the current one
"glorious" for golden versions of the normal charms

leaden hedge
#

and most of that is duplicate code

#

and you could just use a list for iterating over items

fair rampart
#

and where else is this code used/invoked?

compact sedge
#

radiant charm skin when

fair rampart
#

I'll have to give it some thought as to the UI

sour oriole
#

woooohooo, radiant charms Lets go boys

fair rampart
#

right now I like the ui-less solution because I feel like it's more immersive

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a reward for beating panth5 would also be cool

#

I still have the sprites for a void-corrupted version of the godtuner so making that replace the void heart as a cosmetic thing would be cool

#

buttt I still have trouble with that

sour oriole
#

wait a sec, youre the creator of the mod ?

fair rampart
#

I made exaltation yeah

cunning lagoon
fair rampart
#

*with the help of a bunch of people here

sour oriole
#

lol i didnt know, can you tell me why am i missing the thorns of agony and steady body upgrade ?
i saw them on Github but i cand see them in my game

fair rampart
#

have you updated?

#

the mod should be at version 1.0.2.0 on your options menu

#

I only pushed the update to the installer about 30 minute sago

sour oriole
#

no clue, ill check now

fair rampart
#

I also implemented backwards-compatibility for saves so it should auto-update once you load back in after updating

compact sedge
#

does Exaltation forever change the notch costs of charms in a save file?

#

or no?

#

like if I uninstall it will it go back to normal?

fair rampart
#

it should yeah

sour oriole
leaden hedge
#

its not called anywhere really
you do this in your Initialize()

invObj = new GameObject();
invObj.AddComponent<Rewards>();
ModInventory.PaneHandler.showMenu();
ModInventory.PaneHandler.hideMenu();

to show / hide them

if you add more components you can scroll between them like the normal inventory

fair rampart
#

I implemented a failsafe for it @compact sedge

#

when the game saves the vanilla costs are set to normal and then the file saves

#

after it's done saving they go back to their glorified costs

compact sedge
#

oh I see yeah

#

nice

fair rampart
#

that, like much of the code, was an idea i took from lightbringer

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it's a pretty good teacher/role model for good practice t b h

sour oriole
#

do i have to use Modinstaller for installing mods or just throw them in managed/mods ?

fair rampart
#

you could put them in manually but installer is better

compact sedge
#

lightbringer took it from me

fair rampart
#

it's more reliable and auto-updates

sour oriole
#

installer doesnt say your mod is updated sooo

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

compact sedge
#

it was the only good line of code in the entirety of grimmchild upgrades

fair rampart
#

humh, that's weird

compact sedge
#

you need to edit the modlinks

#

and change the sha1sum

fair rampart
#

yeah I already did

compact sedge
#

huh

fair rampart
#

I downloaded from the installer and it fetched 1.0.2.0

#

like, let me try this from scratch

compact sedge
#

if you quit and reopen the installer does it say it needs to be updated

leaden hedge
#

although I'd make

        public static void showMenu()
        {
            PaneHandler.invCanvas.GetComponent<CanvasGroup>().alpha = 1;
            PaneHandler cPane = firstPane;
            cPane.onMenuOpen();
            cPane = cPane.nextPane;
            while (cPane != firstPane)
            {
                cPane.onMenuOpen();
                cPane = cPane.nextPane;
            }
            hidden = false;
}

this into a coroutine that fades in

fair rampart
#

uninstalling exaltation

leaden hedge
#

and you need to load in a bunch of images

sour oriole
fair rampart
#

it's fully gone from the mods folder now

leaden hedge
#

but it does everything else for you intenseface

compact sedge
#

ok ur good

fair rampart
#

yee

#

you can always check the readme for a version check

compact sedge
#

can I just say I hate how unity uses floats for everything when doubles exist.

#

ok rant over

leaden hedge
#

use gamemaker

compact sedge
#

just had to get that out there

leaden hedge
#

it uses doubles for literally everything

#

including bools

fair rampart
#

rpg maker port of hollow knight

leaden hedge
#

true is 1.000000 and false is 0.000000

frigid gale
#

yewsh

compact sedge
#

so what's any other number? trueish?

fair rampart
#

oof

leaden hedge
#

another double 🤔

compact sedge
#

I hate doing exact compares on doubles or floats it just feels wrong

frigid gale
#

.5

copper nacelle
#

resharper complains every time

frigid gale
#

is

compact sedge
#

doing if (boolVar) is fine but doing if (floatVar == 1.0f) is wrong to me

frigid gale
#

maybe?

sour oriole
#

can i use Grimmchild upgrades without Infinite grimm ?
or if i have to have infinite grimm, should i kill NKG first then install the mod or its ok to have them at game start ?

copper nacelle
#

you can

compact sedge
#

you can use GCU without infinite grimm. infinite grimm requires killing NKG first to unlock it

copper nacelle
#

you just get max level

sour oriole
#

oh cool, thanks

fair rampart
#

hmmstve

compact sedge
#

so you can install infinite grimm and if you haven't fought nkg yet it will still be finite

fair rampart
#

still trying to decide the best way to reverse glorification

compact sedge
#

just so you can unlock grimmchild level 4

fair rampart
#

I want to do it on a by-charm basis so people can have more freedom

copper nacelle
#

imo make something to swap between void and soul versions

fair rampart
#

wdym

copper nacelle
#

the nailmaster's glory the gives you a bit of damage for health loss vs

fair rampart
#

ah that

copper nacelle
#

the one that lets you pogo on nkg during balloon and watch him die

fair rampart
#

yeah that's fair

#

not really sure the best way tho

#

a UI would be the most smooth but I'd rather go UI-less for the most part so it feels natural

leaden hedge
#

if you want the ui to be really smooth just design it in unity editor

#

and import it

fair rampart
#

would it be possible to have one that resembles normal HK ui?

leaden hedge
#

well thats what the bossrush one does 🤔

#

you just have to give it the sprites

fair rampart
#

the thing that pops out to me is like

#

a duplicate of the charm menu but just with the ones you have equipped that are glorified or glorifiable

#

and you'd be able to move between them and hit space/some key or button to swap them on and off

#

it would also be used to swap flavors for the ones with different functions depending on certain criteria at time of glorifying

leaden hedge
#

the only thing thats different between the PaneHandler and vanilla hk is, it doesn't fade in, and I don't think I have the vignette enabled

#

otherwise I made a complete recreation of the main inventory page thats 1:1 to test it

fair rampart
#

cool beans

leaden hedge
#

but you could always just make it in unity for a more visual editor

#

considering the main point of panehandler was to make something multiple mods could use, and it'd stick them all in one menu you could scroll through

fair rampart
#

hmm

#

I wonder if it's possible to make the void heart equippable/unequippable and, if so, how much that'd break the game

#

let's find out

frigid gale
#

lol

fair rampart
#

well, changing it to cost notches just makes it permanently cost notches

#

so no-go there

frigid gale
#

This'll end very badly or itll be quite anticlimatic

copper nacelle
#

latter

#

you can give yourself all charms w/ debug mod

sour oriole
#

just installed Blackmoth and after 5 mins, i clipped through 8 different walls 😕

copper nacelle
#

void heart just sits there unequipped

#

do you have sharp shadow on

#

that's a feature

sour oriole
#

ye

#

oh

#

nice then

fair rampart
#

it's b/c the most elegant solution seems to be making the void heart toggleable and having it removed to disable glorified charms

#

@copper nacelle how does the Mods menu in options work

hollow pier
#

is exalt on gdrive

fair rampart
#

yeah

hollow pier
#

ok

copper nacelle
#

you implement IToggleableMod

hollow pier
#

breaking game after i p5

#

which is never

copper nacelle
#

usually all you need is just unhooking hooks

fair rampart
#

ahh so it's a dummy mod

#

that's fair

copper nacelle
#

?

fair rampart
#

unless I'm misunderstanding based on QoL's way of handling it

#

which was to have other things listed in the mod list

copper nacelle
#

no i just have 5 mod files

frigid gale
#

See now If I said p5 to my friend he would say persona 5 cause hes a weeb and hasnt bother to reinstall hk when he said he would when gm came out

copper nacelle
#

e.g

fair rampart
#

ouchie

copper nacelle
#

you just do

#

public class InfinitePoP : Mod, ITogglableMod

#

and

#
        public void Unload()
        {
            ModHooks.Instance.GetPlayerBoolHook -= GetBool;
            ModHooks.Instance.SetPlayerBoolHook -= SetBool;
        }
fair rampart
#

ic

#

I was wondering if options to disable each charm individually would work butr

#

that's probably too obtuse

copper nacelle
#

uhh

#

don't do that using toggleable mods

#

thank

#

just add a settings file

#
 public class MantisGods : Mod<MantisSettings, MantisGlobalSettings>, ITogglableMod
#

<SaveSettings, GlobalSettings>

#

global settings get put in a config file in the saves folder

hollow pier
#

wait you can ddark into absrad spikes

copper nacelle
#

you don't get damaged?

fair rampart
#

rlmhy makes u think

hollow pier
#

no you just go through

fair rampart
#

@copper nacelle I do have a settings file/folder

hollow pier
#

and if you time it when they disappear it's safe i guess

copper nacelle
#

the like spike walls?

hollow pier
#

on the ground

#

wait i'll test more

sour oriole
#

Hey Xhuis, your mod compatible with Lightbringer ?
which one overwrites the other ?

copper nacelle
#

exaltation sprites will be overwritten by lb

#

on the charms it changes

#

but you'd still get the effect

#

idk which one's text would stick

sour oriole
#

oh boy, lets test

copper nacelle
#

but all the effects would still work and stuff

sour oriole
#

from both mods ?

copper nacelle
#

yeah

fair rampart
#

lightbringer would break exaltation in some way 100%

#

and vice versa

copper nacelle
#

glorified quick slash would just be god tier lances

#

it's not like you change any of the bools

#

should work 99.9999%

sour oriole
copper nacelle
#

huh

#

oh it's probably cause i wait a frame

sour oriole
#

Shaman stone is still LB's shaman stone

#

the effects atleast

copper nacelle
#

you'd also get the other effects too

#

afaik

sour oriole
#

yup

copper nacelle
#

only thing which might be weird is sprintmaster

sour oriole
#

oof, Lightbringer overwrites charm cost. those 2 mods do NOT go well together

hollow pier
#

wait

#

i think ddarking into the spikes kills them

cunning lagoon
#

taking damage from the spikes clears them for like 5 seconds to give you a breather

#

i assume ddark also triggers it

#

so maybe its just being physically inside them?

copper nacelle
#

probably

fair rampart
#

I'm still debating if razor shadow is too strong

copper nacelle
#

don't remove the dash through spikes feature thank

fair rampart
#

in practice it lets you have your normal elongated shade dash plus a full extra dash of invuln

sour oriole
#

@fair rampart Sorry for pinging but hear me out.
Glorified Grubberfly elegy(?)
make its effect last regardless of your health

fair rampart
#

which is a lot

#

not sure if I could do that easily

#

certainly worth a shot

sour oriole
#

thank you

hollow pier
#

tfw can't even get floor spikes phase

#

prob shouldn't test on radiant

#

ok so

#

if you hate the floor spikes

#

just ddark them and they leave for like 6s

#

on the vertical spike phase you ddark one side and they both disappear but respawn right after

copper nacelle
#

nice

#

totally not going to heavily abuse this

sour oriole
#

ddark ?
also what spikes are you talking about

copper nacelle
#

🅱escending 🅱ark

sour oriole
#

Iframes

hollow pier
#

you can ddark them before they spawn

#

as long as you're in them while they spawn

#

so like last hit should fade as they come up

#

and they just won't be there

cunning lagoon
#

nice

copper nacelle
#

you can't do it while they're already there tho

#

right?

hollow pier
#

no you can

copper nacelle
#

wtf

hollow pier
#

just anytime the spikes are there

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dive into them and they disappear

cunning lagoon
hollow pier
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ok this ddark thing is really good

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when absrad teleports above her spikes

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just ddark them and follow her

cunning lagoon
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soudns solid

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or just ignore the spikes and pogo her

hazy sentinel
buoyant obsidian
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they make it sound so negative when it's a good thing

compact sedge
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"this video is less clickbaity than your normal videos"

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"Youtube is displeased"

hazy sentinel
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"A D S R E E"

buoyant obsidian
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"This displeases the hive mind."

hollow pier
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is that on crawlers.mp4 or no ui

buoyant obsidian
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"Assimilate or be destroyed."

hazy sentinel
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no ui duh

hollow pier
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no u

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i

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haha

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get it

hazy sentinel
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no ui also got limited monetization

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for some reason

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google deep mind strikes again

fair rampart
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i mean

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I watched baldur gods the whole way through without skipping any at all so

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basically #1 fan

buoyant obsidian
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Baldur Gods is his best video

hazy sentinel
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not even low% nsoob wr part VII

fair rampart
hazy sentinel
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grimmchild best charm btw

fair rampart
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unironically I used a minion build when I beat sly the first time

copper nacelle
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wtf

hazy sentinel
cunning lagoon
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wtf

hollow pier
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is that the gruz one

cunning lagoon
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50%

copper nacelle
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yes iirc

hollow pier
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fucking clickbait has mr mushroom

cunning lagoon
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what is it

hazy sentinel
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i think people are trying to match likes/dislikes

hollow pier
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i thought you would kill him

hazy sentinel
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@cunning lagoon it's just me fluking gruz mother on an endgame save

cunning lagoon
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lmao

hollow pier
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wait you fluke it

hazy sentinel
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yeah

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she didn't even wake up

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and the gate didn't open

hollow pier
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not even reddit qs fr str stalwart build smh my head

weary oyster
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lol kurosh that 2:10 comment

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the hk reddit annoys me so much

cunning lagoon
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they downvoted you to hell

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FeelsBadMan

hazy sentinel
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Yeah, I watched that run. It’s insane! But I can see it going lower, maybe sub 2:10 with a TAS

cunning lagoon
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Yeah, I watched that run. It’s insane! But I can see it going lower, maybe sub 2:10 with a TAS

copper nacelle
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Yeah, I watched that run. It’s insane! But I can see it going lower, maybe sub 2:10 with a TAS

weary oyster
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i feel like theyre just impressed by the most random shit

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post a damageless FK kill and youll probably get 200 upvotes

fair rampart
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Yeah, I watched that run. It’s insane! But I can see it going lower, maybe sub 2:10 with a TAS

cunning lagoon
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yea and if you dont follow the circlejerk you just get downvoted

fair rampart
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I posted exaltation on there earlier and I think it's sitting at 70 rn

compact sedge
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I've never posted my mods on reddit but graig posted infinite grimm and got 40

hazy sentinel
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more popular than IG confirmed

cunning lagoon
copper nacelle
buoyant obsidian
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Dreamshield Co-Op got 57 upvotes

copper nacelle
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downvote it

hazy sentinel
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how many did shitmodst 2 get

cunning lagoon
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wow quit bragging