archived-modding-development

[cunning lagoon]

OwO

[cunning lagoon]

i'll give them the benefit of the doubt, maybe they mean absrad

probably not though

[hollow pier]

no

[cunning lagoon]

when are you beating p5

[copper nacelle]

did he not already

[cunning lagoon]

then who's left

you?

[copper nacelle]

u

[hazy sentinel]

yOwO

[cunning lagoon]

shit u right

[copper nacelle]

the fuck

[fair rampart]

me

[hollow pier]

no i haven't i got bl2 and wol so i quit hk forever

[cunning lagoon]

wow

[copper nacelle]

bl2?

[cunning lagoon]

borderlands 2

[copper nacelle]

oh ok

[hazy sentinel]

wol?

[hollow pier]

awol

[cunning lagoon]

AWOL
Absent Without Official Leave: A term used in the United States Military to describe a soldier or other military member who has left his or her post without permission (usually in disagreement with a particular order). This is one of many military terms that has trickled down into everyday speech among civilian populations.

[copper nacelle]

https://youtu.be/Ey3Bqog52rQ

[hazy sentinel]

not even sail

oh wizard of legend

[cunning lagoon]

oh

[hollow pier]

is this k-loss

[copper nacelle]

o

h

but when iconoclasts

[hollow pier]

that's like 500 dollars no thanks

[copper nacelle]

understandable have a nice day

[cunning lagoon]

play train simulator

and buy every dlc

[hollow pier]

you ever hero siege and all dlc is like 45

game is 7

[cunning lagoon]

atm thats 6434,32€

you are better off buying an actual train

[hollow pier]

why do that when i can get 600 vbucks

[copper nacelle]

#297468195026239489 irl

[hollow pier]

is meme still just hunger games

[cunning lagoon]

that seems to be the case

[copper nacelle]

yeah

[hollow pier]

wow kuro doesn't even know about this

not a 90's kid who was here when hal hosted the first one 😎

[cunning lagoon]

🤔

[hollow pier]

was it even hal

[copper nacelle]

@cunning lagoon is this u

[cunning lagoon]

❌

[hollow pier]

gpz is my favourite fight in hollow knight

[cunning lagoon]

i do like the watcher knights

a lot

so its 50% me

[hollow pier]

hey kuro

wanna run great hopper%

[cunning lagoon]

hey

🤔

so thats

shade skip into blue lake

clawless and dashless i guess?

[hollow pier]

yes

[cunning lagoon]

if that's a thing

and that's it

then just walk until you kill one

[hollow pier]

yes

good cat

[copper nacelle]

clawless is a thing

idk about dashless and clawless

[hollow pier]

it is

it's just clawless but you move right more

[copper nacelle]

nice

[cunning lagoon]

you parry the shade or some crap like that

right

[copper nacelle]

yeah

[cunning lagoon]

i believe i saw a clip of it a long time ago

[hollow pier]

parry vs pogo vs pogo

https://clips.twitch.tv/NimbleGrotesqueSnailDxCat

[copper nacelle]

sick

[cunning lagoon]

thats brutal

[leaden hedge]

itemless isn't that bad

[copper nacelle]

you can do it w/out vs?

wtf

[leaden hedge]

no you need 1 fireball

[tranquil glen]

was gonna say

[hollow pier]

just use wraiths lol

[leaden hedge]

but you don't need to get hit like that

[tranquil glen]

If you can do it 100% itemless that'd be insane

[leaden hedge]

dashless/clawless is called itemless

[hollow pier]

use wings

[tranquil glen]

100% skill less then

[hollow pier]

just watch sean's streams then

[leaden hedge]

well vs isn't an item

and mothwing cloak and mantis claw is 🤔

[tranquil glen]

depends what you define as an item doesn't it

[hollow pier]

nail is item

[leaden hedge]

ur mums an item

[hollow pier]

u

[frigid gale]

So

What'chu guys working on

I've seen gradow having some issues XD

[fair rampart]

I like how in the "quality of life" mod it gives you infinite PoP

yeah..

very "quality"

unless it means that you can just keep traveling back even after defeating it

that would make sense lol

[cunning lagoon]

yes that's what it means

[fair rampart]

yeah makes more sense

[solemn rivet]

my issues are mostly irl tbh

[cunning lagoon]

are you me

haha

xD

[odd jetty]

[fair rampart]

https://github.com/Xhuis/Exaltation

[cunning lagoon]

i can't tell if this is an elaborate shitpost or a very stupid individual

[fair rampart]

look at his name

[cunning lagoon]

it's probably a shitpost

yea

[solemn rivet]

wait

xhu is sharing his code

[cunning lagoon]

also the fact that the second paragraph just cuts off

[solemn rivet]

[weak lodge]

[odd jetty]

loooll

[fair rampart]

how do I put a mod on the installer

is my question

[cunning lagoon]

oh actually nvm i misread it

[solemn rivet]

you make it into a nice zip

put it in the gdrive

[cunning lagoon]

it's still probably a shitpost

[solemn rivet]

and add it to the xml

[fair rampart]

just drop the dll into a zip?

[odd jetty]

I think it needs to be inside a dir inside the zip...?

[cunning lagoon]

light theme

[hazy sentinel]

i don't use reddit enough to care

[copper nacelle]

@fair rampart zip w/ a hollow_knight_Data/Managed/Mods/urmod.dll and a /README(.txt/.md)

[odd jetty]

light theme is the best

[cunning lagoon]

wth is he ranting about there

[hazy sentinel]

tboi

[cunning lagoon]

yes

[fair rampart]

@copper nacelle
so the zip directory would look like

hollow_knight_Data/Managed/Mods/Exalted.dll
README.md

[cunning lagoon]

which challenge is he complaining about tho

[copper nacelle]

yeah

[hazy sentinel]

spacebar trinket 😔

[cunning lagoon]

[copper nacelle]

you ever write out stuff in bullet points

and then see

[hazy sentinel]

Why? How?

[fair rampart]

and where do I put that zip

[copper nacelle]

here

or dm email

or both

[trim totem]

56 what is that

[copper nacelle]

history homework

[trim totem]

w h y h e r e

[copper nacelle]

cause #archived-modding-development is a blessed channel

[fair rampart]

i assume I should let you know and have a fresh zip if I ever need to update it

[cunning lagoon]

hunters are the best

[compact sedge]

does the mod come with source code?

[copper nacelle]

github

really makes u think

[fair rampart]

well I have this https://github.com/Xhuis/Exaltation

[hazy sentinel]

is this jonny

[cunning lagoon]

your first mistake was assuming that #archived-modding-development is actually about modding

[compact sedge]

no license file reee

[odd jetty]

Oh, then we have a common copyright code xD

[fair rampart]

isn't the legality of hollow knight mods kind of iffy because they redistribute or someth

[compact sedge]

you're not redistributing anything

you're code is entirely your own work

[odd jetty]

Code is yours.

[cunning lagoon]

wilbo gonna sue your ass

[fair rampart]

mk

[cunning lagoon]

you're code

[odd jetty]

Being a mod is just a mean/objective

[compact sedge]

also fun fact, without a license file, all mods are all rights reserved and you could dmca someone for using any of your source code in their projects.

[odd jetty]

Yes

and you can sell mods

[hazy sentinel]

this guy is galaxy brains

[cunning lagoon]

[compact sedge]

an open source license intentionally waives that right. (Also you could sell open source mods, nothing's stopping you from doing that even under the GPL)

[odd jetty]

As long as you don't have code of the game itself, you can sell the mod

and yes, you can sell even open source stuff

[compact sedge]

I mean there's no money in HK modding

you picked the worst game ever to mod for profit

[hazy sentinel]

oh this is why i remember this guy's username

[odd jetty]

well, I am just saying that in general

[hazy sentinel]

that too

[odd jetty]

you can sell mods, of any game

that's what I mean :3

[cunning lagoon]

the primal aspid
no one likes this dooche.

[trim totem]

these guys are disgusting

[hazy sentinel]

is this u in allbinds collector

[cunning lagoon]

[copper nacelle]

@fair rampart open installer thank

[trim totem]

i'm not going to whine that's it's too hard, but it's really infuriating

[compact sedge]

hey does FOTF work against radiant bosses @fair rampart ?

[hazy sentinel]

grind enemies

[fair rampart]

no it does not

[hazy sentinel]

fuck

he died

[copper nacelle]

also if you don't gplv3 i think it's illegal

cause gplv3 is gplv3

[cunning lagoon]

really makes you think

[fair rampart]

one second 56

[trim totem]

i did not get nim. i did the nightmare king like a man

[cunning lagoon]

actually does nightmare king like a boss

[fair rampart]

I usually like to use MIT license for my stuff

[copper nacelle]

don't trust me i'm bad at licenses

[compact sedge]

gpl or death

/s

[fair rampart]

[cunning lagoon]

he's done it

[fair rampart]

so uh

looks like it's live

[hazy sentinel]

ultra gay

[copper nacelle]

enum when

[compact sedge]

shoulda called it the extacy mod

[hazy sentinel]

dictionary.com 10/10

[hollow pier]

light mode dictionary.com

[fair rampart]

thesaurus.com is literally how I get half the names for my stuff

[cunning lagoon]

uh oh 56 gnona get an aneurysm lookin at your code

[copper nacelle]

mw ez

[hazy sentinel]

my shargnona

[copper nacelle]

what

[fair rampart]

some of it is quite inefficient but I'm a c# newbie and a lot of it prioritizes readability since I was told not to worry too much about optimization

[odd jetty]

Exaltation means something have a bigger intensity, it does can mean something with feelings

[copper nacelle]

but enums are beautiful

[cunning lagoon]

notices your abnormally large bulge OwO what's this

[hazy sentinel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UW4bzukEp44

[odd jetty]

Enums? 🤔

[copper nacelle]

wtf

private static enum Charms
{
    GatheringSwarm = 1,
    WaywardCompass = 2,
    SprintMaster = 37
}

wokest

[odd jetty]

so you can go like Charms["GatheringSwarm "] ?

[fair rampart]

also uh

I dunno whoever moderates the mod summary google doc but

[copper nacelle]

no it'd be Charms.GatheringSwarms

[fair rampart]

I made a suggestion for the exaltation additions

[copper nacelle]

@hazy sentinel is this u

[cunning lagoon]

does it work in godseeker mode

[odd jetty]

oh

[fair rampart]

yes it does

[cunning lagoon]

ok

[fair rampart]

godseeker mode is how I mostly tested it

[hazy sentinel]

mod summary was a mistake

[fair rampart]

and the pantheon wins aren't actually how it's tracked, but the boss kills of the final boss of them

[copper nacelle]

what if i've already killed them

[cunning lagoon]

c

[fair rampart]

if you've already beaten them just rest at a bench and it'll glorify automatically

[odd jetty]

Does it work if you kill them in hall of gods?

[fair rampart]

yes

iirc

if you reach nailmasters but don't win against them, you can kill nailmasters in hall of gods and you should get the appropriate glories

[odd jetty]

👌

[compact sedge]

does anyone who's not me because I'm lazy wanna fix the modding api docs

they're kinda depressing

[copper nacelle]

no u

@fair rampart i loaded in to have a violent screen shake

is this loss

why is h still the bind for glorification

i can't attack without getting degloried

[cunning lagoon]

[fair rampart]

heck

musta left that in

gimme a sec

[copper nacelle]

mfw

[hazy sentinel]

hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[odd jetty]

xD

[fair rampart]

was p sure that I commented it out lul

I use f as my attack key so

[copper nacelle]

also j swaps the fotf flavor

apparently

[fair rampart]

ye

[copper nacelle]

which is my dash button

[fair rampart]

that was for testing shadefury and wyrmfury

[cunning lagoon]

embrace the superior layout

wasd123456

[copper nacelle]

wtf you can actually feel sprintmaster

[odd jetty]

lewd

[cunning lagoon]

😩

[hazy sentinel]

embrace 234tspace

[cunning lagoon]

do you put your pinky on 2

[copper nacelle]

whomst

[fair rampart]

so should I put the zip file on the github as well

[copper nacelle]

it'd be nice

i don't bother

ok wtf

i accidentally hit some button and got CHARMS GLORIFIED BY THE GOD OF BROTHERHOOD

[cunning lagoon]

wouldn't werg be better anyway

you don't hjave to stretch your hand so much

[copper nacelle]

it was k

apparently

[hazy sentinel]

it'd be better if you have small hands

[copper nacelle]

all my binds are debug stuff

[odd jetty]

That mod should be called "One button press, one surprise"

[copper nacelle]

apparently

dnail has a glorified by thing

lmao

[fair rampart]

https://github.com/Xhuis/Exaltation

emergency revision done

also, it should say the god of testing since that's the debug one

[copper nacelle]

yes

god of discord too

wtf

no

this is what the releases button is for

[fair rampart]

heck u

[cunning lagoon]

smh lazy modders not even testing their mods before releasing them

[copper nacelle]

[fair rampart]

also the gods of discord is a 1% chance thing since I got a bunch of help from this discord

[copper nacelle]

haha yes

the new zip has it fixed tho right

[odd jetty]

@fair rampart You didn't put a if DEBUG thing, did you

[fair rampart]

@copper nacelle yep @odd jetty nope

[odd jetty]

put that before any print stuff

[copper nacelle]

more like

why

[odd jetty]

so all you have to do is set DEBUG to False

[copper nacelle]

modlog is hidden to the user by default tho

just log anyway

[odd jetty]

oh, ok

Thought it was showing on screen

[copper nacelle]

that's an option

in the mod api settings

[odd jetty]

I know

[copper nacelle]

@fair rampart e

i shasumed both dlls and they're the same

[cunning lagoon]

shasumed 🤔

[fair rampart]

https://github.com/Xhuis/Exaltation/releases/tag/v1.0.0.1

try that mayb

[copper nacelle]

me irl

maybe they collide idk

[hazy sentinel]

Exaltation (9).dll

[copper nacelle]

wtf

[fair rampart]

wtf

mods

here bucko

[copper nacelle]

ok had to copy to exaltation2.dll

me irl

[odd jetty]

Why you guys love big lines that much xD

[copper nacelle]

it even offered to replace the file earlier

[hazy sentinel]

the bigger the line the bigger the high my dude

[copper nacelle]

anyways updated

[hazy sentinel]

actually don't snort cocaine thanks

[hollow pier]

too late

[copper nacelle]

or not

wtf

[odd jetty]

Did you learn that with Michael Cayne?

[solemn rivet]

I just came back. Did you manage to put your mod in the gdrive, xhu?

[hazy sentinel]

xhu knows

[cunning lagoon]

elder xhu

[copper nacelle]

wtf

it keeps trying to update it

but it's updated

[odd jetty]

Did you close the game

[cunning lagoon]

thats a vanilla mod installer thing

[solemn rivet]

wrong sha1

shush dlk

[cunning lagoon]

which still happens to me by the way 😃

[copper nacelle]

ur mum wrong sha1

[solemn rivet]

modinstaller is mah babeh and it's perfect

[cunning lagoon]

it truly is

[copper nacelle]

excuse me what the fuck

[solemn rivet]

lemme try

[copper nacelle]

i shasumed the dll in my mods folder and it's the old one

this is loss

[hollow pier]

isn't shasum that #hk-lore guy

[solemn rivet]

wouldn't kno

[hollow pier]

oh it's sumwan

[solemn rivet]

never been there

[hollow pier]

pretty close

[odd jetty]

| || |_

[solemn rivet]

wtf even is this

[copper nacelle]

aa meme mods

[solemn rivet]

shush cerberus

[cunning lagoon]

you are missing another one of these bad bois ||

[solemn rivet]

I'm scared to install this mod

legit

[copper nacelle]

what the actual shit

[cunning lagoon]

ay meu deus

[solemn rivet]

ok, installed it

resetting the installer...

gg

[cunning lagoon]

Não

[copper nacelle]

@fair rampart

thank you dark souls

[copper nacelle]

yeah

7zip extracted it to a folder

and it's also still outdated

echree

[fair rampart]

mods

[solemn rivet]

no, mine's not in a folder tho

[copper nacelle]

yeah 7zip

[copper nacelle]

i'm just gonna build it off github

easiest trick in the book

[cunning lagoon]

thats why you use winrar

[hollow pier]

but my free trial ended

[cunning lagoon]

you have to pay for the license or it doesnt work properly

[solemn rivet]

would you use winrar if I bought you a license

legit question

[compact sedge]

pls let's be civilized and use tar

[odd jetty]

"SIm" "Não"

[copper nacelle]

ok i built it

from github

biggest meme

[hollow pier]

tua mae kkkkkkkkk

[compact sedge]

ok so uh quick question. Has anyone ever done custom dialogue boxes in Hollow Knight before?

like not changing the text? I mean creating new ones from scratch

[cunning lagoon]

does ptk actually know portuguese

[solemn rivet]

I think sean does it

ptk is like me dlk

[cunning lagoon]

[copper nacelle]

i swear it hates me

[compact sedge]

@rain cedar if you know how to create custom dialogue boxes from scratch please send code because I would like to do this in redwing.

[copper nacelle]

y e s

it works now

@fair rampart

[hollow pier]

name literally portugal kyr imo

[fair rampart]

nice

[copper nacelle]

i can swing my nail faster than light

and not deglorify myself

[solemn rivet]

no

[weary oyster]

Portugal kill your relf

[hollow pier]

toxic

[cunning lagoon]

rude

[solemn rivet]

old joke ax

[weary oyster]

why is everything i say a repost now

[solemn rivet]

cause

u are u

[copper nacelle]

the sharp shadow glorification should've just been no extra length

ez good charm

[cunning lagoon]

then how am i gonna eat the cycles in pop

[copper nacelle]

oh shit

[hollow pier]

make it every dash extended ez clap

[solemn rivet]

did you upload it, 56?

[copper nacelle]

yeah

[cunning lagoon]

then how am i gonna get past the second room

[hollow pier]

dash duh

[solemn rivet]

k, it works now

nice

[fair rampart]

@copper nacelle the extended invuln was meant to make it so that you didn't have to worry about dashing into crap as much

[copper nacelle]

yeah ik

was meme

imagine glorified quick slash but enemies didn't take knockback

you would just melt everything

[solemn rivet]

petition to rename "Chaos Mode" to "MODern Art"

[copper nacelle]

glorified quick slash vs lost kin

[fair rampart]

enemies' cooldown on being damaged is slower than the slash recharge so not all hits will land

[cunning lagoon]

make a macro that swings your nail 60 times per second

[copper nacelle]

wow is this aa turbo button

[compact sedge]

I wrote code to work around that but it's kinda hacky

[copper nacelle]

https://youtu.be/DhRolBISRqQ @vagrant leaf qslash and sprintmaster

[hollow pier]

Your browser does not currently recognise any of the video formats available.
Click here to visit our frequently asked questions about HTML5 video.

[copper nacelle]

refresh

it was at 95% processing

[cunning lagoon]

hella rude

[hollow pier]

imagine posting something not done

[solemn rivet]

I can play it

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[compact sedge]

stop using IE

[fair rampart]

@copper nacelle throw on racemaster too

[cunning lagoon]

weow you use shadowplay

get obs you troglodyte

[copper nacelle]

i use obs sometimes

[solemn rivet]

or even sharex for such short vids

[copper nacelle]

shadowplay for quick recordings and instant replay cause 5 minute instant replay is actually god

obs for the rest

[fair rampart]

i'm not kidding btw

[fleet lion]

shadowplay gay

[fair rampart]

racemaster increases speed further

[copper nacelle]

u

wait what

[compact sedge]

in vanilla as well

[fair rampart]

nah not as much as racemaster

[compact sedge]

hmmm

[fair rampart]

sprintmaster + dashmaster = 😪
stagway coin + dashmaster =
stagway coin + racemaster =

[copper nacelle]

wait sharp shadow and then jump into spikes

maybe

i am sonic

this is how you become sonic

[hollow pier]

im scenic

[rain cedar]

@compact sedge it's just tmpro boxes, nothing special

[copper nacelle]

you can sharp shadow and then jump through spikes

ez pop

[fair rampart]

@copper nacelle make sure to put on the lifeseed lantern

it costs 0 notches

[copper nacelle]

wait what

[rain cedar]

Should be easy

[fair rampart]

lmao mega moss charger + steel tempest

[copper nacelle]

wait hold up

[fair rampart]

never gets one charge off

[copper nacelle]

you can shadow dash through spikes now

[cunning lagoon]

nice

[fair rampart]

huh

[cunning lagoon]

im sure that doesnt break the game

[copper nacelle]

late game anyway

[fair rampart]

that's not even because of my mod

[cunning lagoon]

gotta try pop with that

[copper nacelle]

isInvincible = true

iirc

[fair rampart]

that was the only workaround I could find tbf

[copper nacelle]

don't remove it tho it's great

[compact sedge]

do you have code where you generate them or no sean?

[fair rampart]

huh

[copper nacelle]

i really want to try pop with this

dlkurosh get sub 2:20 with this

thank

[cunning lagoon]

im not actually sure where it would be of use

[copper nacelle]

dash through the 2nd room saws

ez

[cunning lagoon]

like i cant think of any big skips

although it does help

[hollow pier]

go straight through the last saw

[solemn rivet]

use grubbermoth

ez

[cunning lagoon]

blackmoth does completely break it though

[compact sedge]

go outside the death barrier

[cunning lagoon]

even without that

you can skip a 10s section with an updash

i've been trying to do that in vanilla but there0's no way

sad

[hollow pier]

is it that garbage part

after skip

before shriek

[cunning lagoon]

ye

[hollow pier]

that's where i was testing hazard memes

[cunning lagoon]

lmao

[hollow pier]

but pop is actually decently coded

[copper nacelle]

you could shadow dash into the thorn and spike walls

and then climb up them

[cunning lagoon]

i almost left the server on accident

[copper nacelle]

nice

[cunning lagoon]

niceeeeeeee

[copper nacelle]

https://www.twitch.tv/prehistoricbanana

chaos mode and enemy rando

it spawned radiance and then tped it to him

https://clips.twitch.tv/YawningBlueWolverineMikeHogu

[fair rampart]

seems like steel tempest combines well with steady body

in other news

steel tempest + sisters of battle is bonkers

[cunning lagoon]

Nice

[fair rampart]

triple hit shade soul on BV

big oof

[copper nacelle]

glorified shaman stone w/ bigger spells stay woke

[fair rampart]

razor shadow makes sheo a giant cakewalk

[solemn rivet]

"makes sheo a giant cakewalk" vs "makes sheo, a giant cake, walk"

[hollow pier]

makes, sheo a, giant, cake, walk

[copper nacelle]

makes, sheo, a, giant, cake, walk

[solemn rivet]

makes sheo, a giant - cakewalk

msagc

[hazy sentinel]

rly makes u a giant think

[fair rampart]

so how are the charms so far

[copper nacelle]

good

[fair rampart]

not like

too op/up

?

[compact sedge]

to be tbh your best advice is to watch the vods of anyone who plays and streams your mod.

would recommend watching verulean

[copper nacelle]

@rain cedar is this u

he also said chaos mode was the best mod or extremely blessed or something

[fair rampart]

zOTE RIGHT AFTER MARKOTH

why

???????

[copper nacelle]

randomized pantheon mod stay woke

[fair rampart]

is that a joke or does it exist

[copper nacelle]

former

[fair rampart]

fug

[copper nacelle]

i don't think it'd be hard to make tho

boss sequence controller

[fair rampart]

my glorycharms were doing super well up until then

then zote trampled me

yikes

no wonder people are upset about panth5

it's doable but hot damn is that a tough part

since markoth makes me cry

@copper nacelle does the skip cutscenes part of QoL allow skipping cutscenes or make them skip automatically?

[copper nacelle]

former

[fair rampart]

nice

[copper nacelle]

latter would be a nice option tho

[fair rampart]

already liking the silent salubra though

I'm pretty sure TC went on record as saying they weren't silencing it so

[copper nacelle]

yeah they did

iirc

or at least graig said they probably wouldn't i think

[fair rampart]

should I make a reddit thread about exaltation

[copper nacelle]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[rain cedar]

Auto dash is the best effect

Without it the game would be too easy because you'd be able to play it all the time instead of only most of the time

[copper nacelle]

woke

just run low%

no dash

[rain cedar]

I think that's actually easier

[copper nacelle]

nice

[rain cedar]

Auto dash is brutal man

I should probably change it to only do one dash or jump

Instead of until the timer runs out

[compact sedge]

consider autodash + shitmothst

[fair rampart]

@copper nacelle is qol's mod settings supposed to reset every reboot

infinitepop, mousebindings, and speedbroke are very off but keep reenabling

[compact sedge]

the api is broken

it's a bug in the api

[fair rampart]

also doing some more work now that it's out, aiming to add a few more in

[copper nacelle]

baldur shell sprite when

[fair rampart]

it's actually implanted in code

i have no idea why it doesn't work

[copper nacelle]

nice

[fair rampart]

does it like

have a "broken" sprite

[copper nacelle]

kinda?

underneath the health

but not in the charms area

[fair rampart]

huh, looks like I forgot to enable it

whoops!!

[copper nacelle]

[young walrus]

can you take that monstrosity off if you want?

[fair rampart]

what

the sprig? ofc

[young walrus]

zero notches, still not worth

[fair rampart]

idk, I found it super worthwhile when using steel tempest

but yes there's a choice to it

[young walrus]

k good. didn't want another void heart type thing

unremovable

[fair rampart]

I don't swing that way :p

even free, unquestionably beneficial charms are still opt-in in my book

[copper nacelle]

steady body makes me worse

[fair rampart]

it's b/c muscle memory is focused around attacks knocking you back and walking forward in order to compensate for that

[copper nacelle]

yes

[fair rampart]

so with steady body you go full and walk into them

[copper nacelle]

yes

[fair rampart]

yes

[copper nacelle]

yes

[fair rampart]

oui

🥖

ALSO

what should the glory for thorns be

I want to have it give you soul like nail hits but I dunno if that's possible

[copper nacelle]

hitinstance hook

ez

[slow fable]

hitbox covers the entire room

[fair rampart]

not sure how I'd get the name for the hitinstance itself

I assume that kind of thing is through fsm dumps/viewers

[copper nacelle]

log them all

ez

it's hitinstance.attackSource or something

[fair rampart]

https://i.imgur.com/PjUOOKX.png

🤔

[copper nacelle]

uhh

nail arts?

iirc

[fair rampart]

that was the thorns proc

[copper nacelle]

nice

get the parent

tbh

[fair rampart]

as in

?

[copper nacelle]

e

hitInstance.attackSource.transform.parent.parent or something

instance.Source.transform.parent.parent.gameObject.name

[fair rampart]

transform.parent.name worked

[copper nacelle]

nice

[fair rampart]

so can I check if one actually hits or

[copper nacelle]

idk

[fair rampart]

thanks

[copper nacelle]

maybe hook health manager take damage from hitinstance

and check there

[fair rampart]

nah too lazy

I'll just double damage or something LOL

double damage would prob be too busted though

I think pure nail does 24 damage and thorns already deals 2x nail damage and can hit twice

so that'd be 48 damage

double that and it'd be possible to have 96 damage from taking one hit

that's like... more than an abyss shriek

I wonder if it'd be too witchcraft-y to make it deal spell damage too as well

would this interact like it appears to interact?

[copper nacelle]

probably not tbh

spell stuff is probably in the fsm

hook health manager take damage ez win

[fair rampart]

it

actually appears to work

so

[copper nacelle]

[fair rampart]

ouchie

nevermind

that's a lot of errors

let me make it a pseudo-spell

that is, affected by spell damage charms, but not actually a spell

hehe oh my

hollow knight does NOT like that

I think I'll just stick with before

huh, nevermind

error is somewhere else

[fair rampart]

kinda torn on this, what's the consensus?

[obtuse pier]

seems cool

[compact sedge]

seems kinda underpowered

[rain cedar]

Yeah it really depends on what "slowly" means

If it's like kingsoul slow that's a definite downgrade

[fair rampart]

3 soul per 0.75s

[compact sedge]

oh

that seems fair

[fair rampart]

can be boosted to a max of 5 through charm interactioins

[compact sedge]

also inb4 pogo on pufferfish grimm for the quick kill

[fair rampart]

lmao

it turns out that damage types are super easy to modify though, yeah

[rain cedar]

That's still 8 seconds for 3 nail hits worth of soul at the minimum 3

[fair rampart]

so it literally just sets your nail damage to spell damage

[rain cedar]

I dunno I guess it's good for a nail focused build

[fair rampart]

and that's true, sean, but I also bore in mind that the vast majority of the time in most boss fights that the player won't be attacking with their nail and are usually focused on dodging etc. unless they're speedrunning

overall through a few fights on dung defender and watcher knights I found that it was certainly slower than before but that I had more soul to play with on average, just less stockpiled

think I'll bump it up to 4 though

that way it takes about 2.5 seconds for a normal nail hit

and 1.5 if you have soul catcher equipped too

[copper nacelle]

do nail hits then give no soul

[copper nacelle]

idk why but I thought it meant wouldn't cost soul

my sanity is draining

[rain cedar]

Nail attacks not costing soul

What a world

[copper nacelle]

yeah it helps with fragile nightmare

[rain cedar]

But this isn't lightbringer

[copper nacelle]

that's what you think

but everything is secretly lightbringer

[warped sinew]

I think take out the soul drain

[copper nacelle]

drain?

I thought you gained soul

to make up for the no soul from nail

[rain cedar]

Yeah he misread it too

[warped sinew]

I mean soul draw

[copper nacelle]

soul draw is king soul but faster

[rain cedar]

But then you can only get soul from dream nail

[copper nacelle]

oh

[warped sinew]

It would be good to have a bunch of charms that disable soul for a cool nail build high risk high reward

I think so anyway ;)

[copper nacelle]

that'd be neat but imo as it is most bosses don't have shields so it'd be bad without any soul gain

idk

nkg and wk with it would be sick tho

[warped sinew]

Yeah maybe not that exact charm, just in general would be cool

[copper nacelle]

ye

@floral furnace https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2018/09/08/microsoft-windows-7-monthly-charge-windows-10-free-upgrade-cost/

[buoyant obsidian]

that's satire right

[copper nacelle]

no

after 2020 if you want support it costs money

[buoyant obsidian]

this is the darkest timeline

[rain cedar]

Ok wow they're really asking for another OS to become dominant

Nobody likes subscriptions except the guy making money

[buoyant obsidian]

anyone wanna help me build a new Mac? I'm thinking a Nvidia 2080 and an i7

[copper nacelle]

hackintoshing is actually pretty fun

and not very hard

I'm triple booting my desktop but I actually boot into macOS about 1 time a year

[rain cedar]

So the monthly charge for updates on windows 7 makes me want to switch

But windows 10 also having it means I'm not switching to that

But like 90% of games are windows only so idk

[copper nacelle]

valve just fixed that iirc

Steamplay

[buoyant obsidian]

gotta push the linux gaming movement

[copper nacelle]

new wine and dxvk thing

runs most games

even gta v

https://youtu.be/R-JmrTtQgpM

tbh the only reason I haven't swapped continues to be dnSpy

maybe I'll theme ilspy then swap

[rain cedar]

Livesplit is gonna be a big issue for me

Unless that actually works properly in wine

[buoyant obsidian]

I'll just keep Windows 7

and run everything through a VM

[rain cedar]

I'll figure it out if/when this actually becomes an issue

[buoyant obsidian]

I feel like they're gonna pull some shit though

and make the last update before the pay-to-use awful

[rain cedar]

Wow suspecting a corporation of fucking over consumers

Never would've imagined

[buoyant obsidian]

sorry that was uncalled for

when has Windows ever done anything anti-consumer

[rain cedar]

For a long time windows has been the only option for most purposes

They have a monopoly so honestly I'm just glad they haven't done worse

[fair rampart]

@copper nacelle whenever you're awake/get a second depending on your schedule:
made an update to Exaltation https://github.com/Xhuis/Exaltation/releases/tag/1.0.2.0

includes some new charms etc

gotta sleep now so thanks in advance etc

[warped sinew]

Is there a list of all the glorified charms and what they do?

[fair rampart]

@warped sinew https://github.com/Xhuis/Exaltation/blob/master/CHARM_LIST.md

[short flare]

The current game version is 1.4.2.8 and the latest API installer thingy is 1.4.2.4 and so whenever I try to use it my game crashes. Is there any word on a 1.4.2.8 mod installer thingy coming soon? I was looking forward to using the Hell Mode...

[rain cedar]

Opt out of beta

[warped sinew]

So nailsage gives 3% based on missing HP? So at 1 HP with health charm you get 30% damage, add strength and fury you get 50% and 90% all multiplied together right?

[short flare]

Ah thanks! it works perfectly

[warped sinew]

Or are the percentages added?

[exotic venture]

swift focus uses a fourth of the soul meter to heal but a full soul meter is 99

hmm

also 3% per missing mask means with fragile heart that's 1.3 multiplier and strength adds up with 1.5,and then fury with 1.9

that's a 3.7 multiplier

so your nail damage is increased by 270% total

that's what you wanted to know, right @warped sinew?

alternatively you can also check it with debug mod

but theoretically that's how it's supposed to roll

[floral furnace]

@copper nacelle the fuck is this monetary bullshit

whatever theyll never flush me out of 7 and into 10

[exotic venture]

oh yeah the windows 7 extended support

it's only 3 years lmao

[compact sedge]

hey ttacco you could switch from windows 7 the second you are forced to or do it now when you probably have more time and fewer obligations.

[floral furnace]

yeah but windows is literally the only os im familiar with and dealing with changing os' isnt something im familiar with

thats 2 times i used familiar with

il probably just turn into a linux boi or something

i aint touching ios

[compact sedge]

well you're gonna have to get familiar with that at some point or else I guess use 7 forever and stop being able to play games/browse the internet as the world around you changes

[floral furnace]

but fuck change /s

yeah ill try transitioning sometimes before microsoft starts shoving me with a "pay for me asshole" like how winrar did its "30 day trial" system

[compact sedge]

since you disabled all windows updates you will luckilly never see that. What you will see is

a. 1) more malware that 2) becomes harder to remove
b. 1) webpages straight up break more often. 2) web browsers stop supporting your OS and getting updates.
c. 1) Steam will eventually stop supporting your system 2) and origin and battlenet will too but those two will drop support MUCH faster. 3) apart from gaming services games will straight up stop supporting it much faster
d. 1) You will become unable to buy new hardware. 2) This either doesn't matter at all or could be a huge problem depending on your current rig. Thankfully for you Moore's law is sorta dead so new hardware isn't really that much faster.

those are the downsides. the upsides are ofc:

a. 1) not needing to learn anything new. 2) oh god learning what is this school?
b. 1) not installing windows 10. 2) fuck windows 10. 3) seriously don't even consider it.

what you will also find that I didn't mention is games and software that claims to support "windows 7" but only works with a certain number of updates.

[floral furnace]

yeah no thanks im not going to 10, and im ok with going with another os if its better for compatibility reasons (also learning more about software in general isnt something im against with either), but the steam support thing is also what im worried about too

[cunning lagoon]

get windows xp

[floral furnace]

also is moores law even considered a "law" at this point when its technically only in effect during the first few decades

[compact sedge]

Moore's Postulate is a more accurate name but that's boring and nobody knows what a postulate is

[floral furnace]

i dont either so i guess so

wasnt it something about the wafers (iirc) being unable to properly conduct the shit at something lower than 14, or is it 7? nanometers

[compact sedge]

electrons can jump the gap

they already can on existing hardware

I've seen weird funky shit happen.

for example I wrote a fully deterministic simulation and ran it a couple times and got very slightly different results

but most of the time I got the same results

[floral furnace]

yeah but those "couple of time" isnt something youd want when youre doing sensitive shit i guess

also i did remember reading it during class about quantum computing is """gonna be able"" to get higher speeds without the current processors problem that was like a year already and ive forgotten now (also forgot the process of how processors were made but not my problem /s)

[compact sedge]

honestly seeing computers act this way... and this was back in 2013, on whatever sized chips they were making back then... scared me.

quantum computers are ASICs. they're incredibly good at very specific tasks but bad/unusable for general computing

the best we can hope for is carbon based cpus instead of silicon

and once we're there we may be at the peak of computing performance.

[floral furnace]

yeah with it wed probablly start making medical breakthroughs or something, for me, that would mean id be able to play dwarf fortress at 60+ more dwarves without my fps dying

[compact sedge]

DF is single threaded and poorly optimized in many areas. the truth is the only thing that would let you do that is if it were open source and someone else rewrote parts of the core engine.

[floral furnace]

yeah sure after toady one dies

like seriously iirc his will has "release df as open source" from an interview

[compact sedge]

MURDER TOADY

[floral furnace]

(not saying i want his death i mean, but all im saying its gonna take THAT much for him to actually release it in open source)

dude fucking stopped drinking water and has only been drinking softdrinks in his past interview

water apparently isnt just good enough for him anymore

[compact sedge]

damn maybe he wants to release it as open source too then... if you catch what I'm saying.

[floral furnace]

but goddamn the detail in df is such a waste when it fucking kills your fps so much

[cunning lagoon]

maybe he's allergic to water

[compact sedge]

hey it's not that crazy man... lemme tell you, those wifi enabled wind farms really make me sick.

[compact sedge]

(I feel like I've proven myself as insane enough that you can't tell if I'm being sarcastic or not when I say that)

[storm meteor]

alex jones should have his electricity shut off, he's still using it to transmit his thoughts through the em waves the power lines emit

see, I can be insane too

[sour oriole]

I joined this server just to thank the person(s) who made Exaltation mod.

You sir have my respect

[solemn rivet]

aren't you that S&S boss?

[sour oriole]

I am the very same 😅

[solemn rivet]

can I get an autograph?

[sour oriole]

Youre welcome

[solemn rivet]

[cunning lagoon]

god damn it

queen's gardens sucks ass

[solemn rivet]

naisu

[cunning lagoon]

i should take the deepnest route to get that stupid sub 40

[hazy sentinel]

or just do another run

[cunning lagoon]

but thats hella gay

[hollow pier]

whys your rta still massive

[cunning lagoon]

ahh i forgot

to change it

im sorry

[hollow pier]

smh my head

[hazy sentinel]

what

wdym change it

[cunning lagoon]

he told me to make it smaller

because its gigantic

[hazy sentinel]

🤔

[frosty igloo]

that's what she said... ?

[hazy sentinel]

HK src sorts by RTA so it should be bigger than loadless right

[cunning lagoon]

😩

[hazy sentinel]

[weary oyster]

lmao kurosh i didnt even know you run actual categories

do you just live in this channel

[cunning lagoon]

yeah i live here

[hollow pier]

vysuals with a 40:26 nice new wr

trinomi third with a 39:55 no biggie

[cunning lagoon]

i wanted to run 106 bc im not a huge fan of any%

but im gonna get some prac on this first before jumping into the longer cats

[hollow pier]

take rekky before ax for a massive meme

[hazy sentinel]

lomg catto

[sour oriole]

Modinstaller asked me to update
i said yes and now i have lol.exe in the same folder 🤔

any ideas

[hazy sentinel]

lol.xd

[sour oriole]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[cunning lagoon]

hmm

[cunning lagoon]

interesting

[hollow pier]

it downloaded league you now have 4gb less storage pranked

[young walrus]

lol.exe is generated by the modinstaller

[compact sedge]

smh gradow not deleting old temporary modinstaller update files

[hazy sentinel]

now you have 4000h less free time pranked

[cunning lagoon]

gradow get your shit together

[hazy sentinel]

Gradow!

[cunning lagoon]

Gradow!

[hollow pier]

Gradow!

[buoyant obsidian]

Gradow!

[weary oyster]

gradow?

[cunning lagoon]

how do you make something smaller in livesplit

[solemn rivet]

it does delete when you run the isnatller tho

[buoyant obsidian]

so many dirty blues and whites in #archived-modding-development today

[hollow pier]

just shrink livesplit duh

[sour oriole]

Also this AU.exe
just noticed it

[hazy sentinel]

just Photoshop it afterwards

[buoyant obsidian]

Auto Update

[cunning lagoon]

yeah that's a golden file

[hollow pier]

remove rta lol

[cunning lagoon]

i mean

why not

[compact sedge]

inb4 753 becomes white because Xhuis gets their modder role.

[hazy sentinel]

remove splits lol

[hollow pier]

no splits on pop why have splits for any%

[cunning lagoon]

true

[hazy sentinel]

why have splits for 112 all bosses

[hollow pier]

only ax needs splits

[cunning lagoon]

fr how do i make something smaller in livesplit

[weary oyster]

jeez maggotsmile looks scuffed in reaction size

[solemn rivet]

I like how modding has become dlk/ptk%

[hazy sentinel]

make the smile bigger

[cunning lagoon]

excuse me

[hollow pier]

have you made any more ms variations

[hazy sentinel]

no I already made the perfect one

[hollow pier]

post

[hazy sentinel]

56 re-uploaded it

[hollow pier]

rereupload it

[cunning lagoon]

i like this

[hollow pier]

ok

[cunning lagoon]

howmst the fuck do i make soemthing smaller

[hollow pier]

who knows

[weary oyster]

have u tried the big size slider

[hollow pier]

how did you make it bigger

[cunning lagoon]

which one

[weary oyster]

height

[cunning lagoon]

ah

u right

[weary oyster]

like did u even try what the options do lol

[hazy sentinel]

u height

[hollow pier]

no u

[cunning lagoon]

happy now?

[hollow pier]

yes

[young walrus]

No

[hazy sentinel]

make it 1 pixel tall

[cunning lagoon]

thats the smallest it can be

sadly

[hazy sentinel]

nou

[cunning lagoon]

there

[hazy sentinel]

blur.png

[young walrus]

Still too big

[hollow pier]

have an entire monitor for livesplit

[hazy sentinel]

change font to wingdings

[young walrus]

Show bobs

[cunning lagoon]

seems fine to me

[hollow pier]

imagine not having split icons

[cunning lagoon]

too lazy to set anything up

im gonna abandon this cat when i get sub 40 anyway

[hollow pier]

literally just set something up

[hazy sentinel]

imagine playing hk

[cunning lagoon]

i mean what

[hazy sentinel]

@ Kry

[cunning lagoon]

[hollow pier]

run great hopper% its free

[hazy sentinel]

run kp il

[hollow pier]

not on the board

not even new mod xero added it

[hazy sentinel]

xero T

[cunning lagoon]

wow i didnt beat acrid

feelsbadman

[hazy sentinel]

do a mylą meme

ok poland

[cunning lagoon]

🤔

[hollow pier]

å

[cunning lagoon]

ã

[hazy sentinel]

installed polish kb

[cunning lagoon]

should i submit this or no

[hollow pier]

no

anything sub acrid is trash