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copper nacelle
hazy sentinel
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360 degree dash thanks

rain cedar
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360 degree ddark

compact sedge
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OMG you somehow made it look and control exactly like shitmothst grubbers

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I love it

solemn rivet
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well

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that's the actual original implementation

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which I later changed, in an attempt to make it more "usable"

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if you watch any old videos, you'll see it was just like that

compact sedge
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amazing

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I was just trying to pump out a mod that added 6 different dashes in under 24 hours so I did everything the quickest and hackiest ways possible.

solemn rivet
copper nacelle
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nice

hazy sentinel
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wow xenon existing

solemn rivet
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inorite

tranquil glen
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whats uumuu called in the code?

solemn rivet
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giant jellyfish?

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idk

tranquil glen
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is it megajellyfish?

solemn rivet
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yeah, that

tranquil glen
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but whats the explody one then

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nah there's an int for megajellyfish kills

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thats prob the explody ones

hazy sentinel
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check for just jellyfish

copper nacelle
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uumuu is Mega Jellyfish

tranquil glen
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i think uumuu is megajelly

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and explody ones are megajellyfish

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why would there be an int for number of uumuu killed

copper nacelle
hazy sentinel
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looks like ooma AI

tranquil glen
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then whats megajelly

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and why does megajellyfish have an int

copper nacelle
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dunno

solemn rivet
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56 how do I do printscenehieararchytree again?

copper nacelle
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UnityEngine.SceneManagement.SceneManager.GetActiveScene().PrintScenesomethingsomething

hollow pier
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MEGA

copper nacelle
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i think

solemn rivet
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I mean that one in modcommon

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that prints the components of the gameobject, including fsm and their vars

copper nacelle
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oh that

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it's just go.PrintSceneHierarchyTree("filename")

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iirc

solemn rivet
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huh, it's red-squiggling

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do I need an using?

copper nacelle
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probably

solemn rivet
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sigh

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ok

compact sedge
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@solemn rivet tbh that's an incredible reaction and I totally would have done the same thing if I hadn't ruined it for myself by basically reading through the entire source code before installing it.

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it was my fault tho

solemn rivet
copper nacelle
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ye

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same tbh

solemn rivet
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I was really surprised by his reaction too

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yeah, I tried that before asking 56, but red

compact sedge
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although it wouldn't have been an OH MY FUCKING GOD. reaction as much as a: "wow that's kinda broken. I wonder if I can just stand in the middle of the NKG pufferfish with this?"

solemn rivet
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using ModCommon;

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kill me

copper nacelle
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does ReSharper not have the alt-enter using?

tranquil glen
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setting defeatedMegaJelly to false respawned uumuu so idk

compact sedge
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what if your modinstaller required modcommon?

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but not like the rest of the assemblies

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just modcommon

solemn rivet
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wait

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wtf

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it does, AA

trim totem
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56

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absrad laser

copper nacelle
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ye?

solemn rivet
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I made it install it with API

copper nacelle
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eee

solemn rivet
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also

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so

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lemme show you something nice

compact sedge
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No I mean link against modcommon so if people don't have modcommon.dll downloaded alongside the installer it will break

solemn rivet
compact sedge
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missing ref?

solemn rivet
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oh, what I do is silently download it without the user noticing it

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yeah, missing ref

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BUT

copper nacelle
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@trim totem howmst second phase orbs

solemn rivet
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that's working

compact sedge
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I forgot to check yesterday but modcommon still with crazy stupidly high for no good reason numbers.

copper nacelle
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on is in api now

solemn rivet
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no red-squiggles

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oh

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that explains it then

compact sedge
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yeah

trim totem
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you have to do calculus in your head to curve the orbs into the platforms sorry you have not learned enough math

solemn rivet
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I haven written code for mods in like 6 months

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but, yeah, AA

compact sedge
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I moved it to the api because sean stopped giving a shit and so wouldn't notice

But the real reason I did it is because I don't wanna have to rebuild both the api and modcommon for every HK update

solemn rivet
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I rewrote the CheckForAPI methods in the installer

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now they check both for API and ModCommon on launch + after every installation

compact sedge
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nice

solemn rivet
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and I removed the api from the installable mods list

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so they can't uninstall it

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less power to the end-user imo

exotic venture
rain cedar
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Fuck

copper nacelle
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me irl

hollow pier
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shit fuck

rain cedar
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Woah there! The owner of Hollow Knight has requested that Discord block any messages our mostly-accurate robo-hamsters deem to be explicit. Seems like you found one, so your message has not been sent. Please be nice.

solemn rivet
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๐Ÿ‡ซuck

frigid gale
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Right

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I'd say that sums up 56 pretty nicely

copper nacelle
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of

frigid gale
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wtf

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why did i type that

copper nacelle
frigid gale
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there

trim totem
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high literature

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this is what dalinar has read to him

frigid gale
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At first I thought you just misspelled "oof." as a joke

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Good engrish

copper nacelle
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i got my friend to read stormlight

hollow pier
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56 has friends

trim totem
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i got two of my friends to play hollow knight

copper nacelle
trim totem
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one of them just beat watcher knights

copper nacelle
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nice

hollow pier
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i got two people to play it

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one quit past fk

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the other quit past hornet

frigid gale
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fk

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em

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which one is that

copper nacelle
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false knight

frigid gale
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mmm

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they got past the first boss

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then quit

rain cedar
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furry king

frigid gale
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thats lame

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...

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i

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I almost stopped typing when I read that

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but I managed to finish somehow

cunning lagoon
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@copper nacelle thanks dad GWfroggyMonkaMega

cunning lagoon
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does dashmaster do anything in blackmoth

rain cedar
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Looks like it should give you an extra airdash

cunning lagoon
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oh it does

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nice

late hemlock
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What does blackmoth do? :P and also - is there a boss health bar mod anywhere?

rain cedar
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I can understand ignoring text to some degree but come on there's a flashy gif right above you with a boss hp bar

late hemlock
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I thought that was a part of blackmoth - just want one seperate from other mods - also just joined yesterday so...

vale zenith
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so... common sense does not apply to me?

late hemlock
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-_- So i literally just asked a question so I didnโ€™t have to scroll up for ages

rain cedar
molten wind
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would it be possible to mod in checkpoints in PoH?

rain cedar
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Hall of Gods is basically that

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Minus the achievement

molten wind
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yes i know but it would be nice to be able to not lose 30min of progress to weak and boring bosses just so you can do the hard ones.

rain cedar
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Ok

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Then do the hard ones in hall of gods

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If you're not good enough to do the pantheon that's fine

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I'm not going to help you cheat

molten wind
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cheat is a pretty harsh way of putting it. I know i can beat the first 48 or so bosses. they are just a waste of time to beat over and over again. so would it be possible to add a checkpoint?

cunning lagoon
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i'd be surprised if you could beat the first 48 bosses

compact sedge
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the point is to be able to beat them so easily you could do it without even worrying about messing up

molten wind
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oops i mean 39 bosses

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so that is why they send you a completely new boss at the end

compact sedge
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NKG just needs practice. That guy's so easy I could do him in my sleep now. PV is much the same but I don't have as much practice with him only about 5 hours. abs rad has an easy cheese strat you can learn in 1-2 hours.

molten wind
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i can beat NKG easy, i can beat PV a bitt less reliably but i still just want to know if it is possible (and how to do it) not the moral ramifications of it.

compact sedge
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yes it's possible. No, nobody's made a mod for it.

rain cedar
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It wouldn't be a very satisfying victory anyway

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Even though you're lying to yourself that it's not really cheating

compact sedge
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tbh I wouldn't recommend against cheating if you're just trying to unlock all the bosses to fight them in HoG

hollow pier
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oh shit firzen appears in the absence of a ping

compact sedge
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but if you're doing it to beat the panth then it kinda ruins the point of it.

hollow pier
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is this the end

rain cedar
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Don't worry something I said in pm prompted him to appear

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Everything is ok still

hollow pier
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ok thanks

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seanprPepper

rain cedar
molten wind
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and lets be honest, if i wanted do to beat it i would just make my nail do 1000000 damage

cunning lagoon
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but you want to do it to beat it

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you just think it's not cheating

molten wind
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i want to do it so i can practice

rain cedar
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Too bad there's no other way to do that

cunning lagoon
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??

hollow pier
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man if only a massive practice room existed

rain cedar
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Like a convenient room with any boss in it

compact sedge
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then go to debugmod, cheat urself to unlock all the bosses and kill yourself on absolute radiance

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but don't cheat to kill her. Because any victory you get where you cheated to get there is gonna feel hollow.

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I mean empty since y'all people probably view hollow as a positive after 40000 messages of #hk-lore

cunning lagoon
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hey they are not at 40k yet

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give them 2 more days

floral furnace
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yeah absrad did nothing wrong and all that

cunning lagoon
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absrad is void

hollow pier
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finna rad absrad then p5 i guess

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hella lazy tho

cunning lagoon
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nice

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go get them champ

floral furnace
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wow thanks dlk deep lore i bet you regular #hk-lore

hollow pier
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maybe in 3 weeks

cunning lagoon
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p5 hella free just dont ide

hollow pier
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man too bad i ide a lot

rain cedar
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modding joke because ide

floral furnace
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yes dont integrated developement it

rain cedar
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e stands for kit

hollow pier
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haha monomod monomon

floral furnace
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oh fuck

hollow pier
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eit to be tbh

floral furnace
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there corrected /s

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oh wait i still didnt, fuck whatever

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who uses an ide these days anyway

rain cedar
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I use notepad

floral furnace
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nice

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not even ++?

rain cedar
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--

floral furnace
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no joke i had a classmate who during an ojt, was made fun of because he used ides unlike them who, used pure notepad and compiled using the javac command in cmd

compact sedge
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heh

rain cedar
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I had people give me shit for spending like 10 minutes making a script to graph things

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To save time in a physics lab

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People are weird

compact sedge
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Make fun of me all you want for cutting down trees with chainsaws instead of my bare hands but I bet you're just jealous I figured out how to do it better and faster.

floral furnace
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if youre not doing it the hard way youre not doing it the right way /s

hollow pier
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i had people give me shit for installing debug and doing p5 all binds faster

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oh wait

cunning lagoon
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haha

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yea

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bet you he's trying to use the crossroads - resting grounds tram to go to kingdom's edge

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oh he even says it

compact sedge
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just gotta do the skip lul

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if you have nail 0 it's actually p easy since you get two bounces

cunning lagoon
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what is this skip you speak of

compact sedge
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you bounce on a vengefly

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and if you have double jump and dash you can make it barely

cunning lagoon
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where

rain cedar
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The tram duh

cunning lagoon
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i have no idea where this skip is

compact sedge
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oh wait I'm dumb

rain cedar
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Idk all I can think of is stag nest but that's super unrelated

compact sedge
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I'm actually retarded

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help how do you delete internet messages from peoples minds

cunning lagoon
hollow pier
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useless stag = second tramway he needs

floral furnace
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or just use them men in black light stick thingies

cunning lagoon
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he's using the wrong tram and chalking it up as a bug GWchadMEGATHINK

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" Got to say, as much as I can praise it in general, much can be said about the idea that a game can have something that impacts so heavily on its progression as a bug, it's a very frustrating idea."

compact sedge
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I mean this is the subreddit that gave 600 votes to very shitty drawings of random npcs

rain cedar
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Literally just upslashing white defender

compact sedge
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can you even actually juggle him?

cunning lagoon
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yes

compact sedge
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like during his bounce around as a ball thing yes but like overall you can?

rain cedar
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No

cunning lagoon
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where else would you juggle him

compact sedge
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IDK when I think juggling, esp on a post with 700 likes, I think a dumb cheese strat where you stop an enemy from being able to attack by constantly hitting them into the air

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like it's not juggling if they can just use another attack and ruin it, right?

cunning lagoon
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i'd call that a stunlock

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the video is juggling him

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bc he is a ball

compact sedge
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isn't that the purpose of juggling? To at least temporarilly stun the boss?

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But the WD juggling is just fighting as intended

cunning lagoon
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yea

compact sedge
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he's never stunned by being in the air

cunning lagoon
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i really don't get what you are trying to say at all

compact sedge
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how the fuck can you make a video with "insert boss name" juggling in the title if while the boss is being juggled it's not stunned at all even a little bit.

cunning lagoon
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i've never heard the term "boss juggling" before

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i thought it just said juggling wd bc he is a ball

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and you juggle balls

compact sedge
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best I can tell it's only used with regards to fighting games where you keep constantly knocking your opponent in the air for a finite or infinite time so they cannot retaliate or use any attacks long enough for you to use a strong but slow combo on them/ widdle them down to zero depending on if it's finite or not.

cunning lagoon
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that's what the guy in the video is doing

compact sedge
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but it's not that WD isn't using attacks. that is his attack.

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it's like marmu

cunning lagoon
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but the attack is supposed to eventually end

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you "manipulate" it so it doesn't end

compact sedge
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oh I didn't see the video

cunning lagoon
compact sedge
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u right then

solemn rivet
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Big think

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AA is becoming salty about the hk community

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Nice

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Keep going like that and one day you'll be just like firzen

river eagle
compact sedge
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more like I'm a supreme dumbass 2 times in 1 hour

floral furnace
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i think the main lesson here is that you never go to the subreddit in the first place

cunning lagoon
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yeah p much

compact sedge
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everything I say is wrong

cunning lagoon
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no

compact sedge
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everything I say is right? :GWchadMEGATHINK:

floral furnace
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oh yeah ptk cant use these anymore right GWfroggyMonkaThink GWfroggyMonkaMega GWfroggyUWot1 GWfroggyWeSmart

cunning lagoon
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56 gave us an invite GWfroggyWeSmart

floral furnace
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nice

compact sedge
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ye my only excuse is I don't want any more servers on my sidebar

cunning lagoon
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just drag them to the bottom

floral furnace
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yeah except for the servers that gets constant drama on them that they need to ping everyone, now thats good shit /s

compact sedge
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by sending this message you're about to ping 75320+ people (Edit) (Send)

cunning lagoon
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does that actually exist

floral furnace
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yes

cunning lagoon
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nice

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when does it trigger

compact sedge
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why don't you try pinging everyone in a 75320 person server and find out

floral furnace
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20+ ; think?

cunning lagoon
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oh

leaden hedge
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by sending this message you're about to ping less than 20 people, that probably won't even get you angry ping emotes, is that really worth sending (Edit) (Send)

solemn rivet
compact sedge
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fun fact: the absolute radiance title card is like 10% higher on the screen than the normal radiance one

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and by 10% I mean only a little higher maybe only 5%

cunning lagoon
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great husk sentries have boss health bars

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@solemn rivet

floral furnace
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i mean, technically they are

compact sedge
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200 hp โœ…
infected โœ…

checks out

cunning lagoon
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they have 170 health

floral furnace
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wait i just realized is the husk sentry supposed to be a mini tutorial when you fight false knight

cunning lagoon
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what

floral furnace
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you know it sort of a like a mini tutorial

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like how the early geo deposits are positioned nearby breakable walls to let the players know they can break stuff

cunning lagoon
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i assume you mean husk guards and not husk sentries

floral furnace
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great husk sentries are the giant dragon tooth lads in crossroad yes?

cunning lagoon
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great husk sentries are the big red shield guys in cot

floral furnace
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oh is this the city of tears big lads youre talking about?

hollow pier
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this is some nice game knowledge

cunning lagoon
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husk guards are the false knight "tutorial"

floral furnace
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whatever thats what happens when all of them has husk for names

cunning lagoon
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and husk sentries are the small thin guy who can do 1 nail swing or 3 nail swings in cot

floral furnace
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they shouldve just renamed them to "Big Red Lads" in the game

cunning lagoon
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or is it 4 ๐Ÿค”

floral furnace
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3

hollow pier
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it's 1 then 2 tbh

cunning lagoon
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i think it's 3 fast swings then 1 slow one

floral furnace
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yeah, 1 and 2 makes 4

compact sedge
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it's because they have the death type of a boss

cunning lagoon
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god damn it

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why is that a thing

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lol

compact sedge
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also for some reason white palace wingsmoulds have that death type as well

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so they are I guess canonically infected

cunning lagoon
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yeah it's 2 then 1

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ptk is correct

compact sedge
cunning lagoon
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nice

compact sedge
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I mean as great as infinite grimm having a health bar would be lul.

floral furnace
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playing IG with the health bar should just replace the hpbar with a "Health what health" text

compact sedge
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make the health bar loop across the screen until it hits the bottom

floral furnace
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or just make the healthbar break out of your monitor into the physical world

compact sedge
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smh modders so lazy these days, not even making mods that go into the real world

solemn rivet
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well if it makes you happy sure

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but it was meant to remove hpbars from levers and doors

compact sedge
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levers and doors have healthmanagers?!?!

solemn rivet
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they used to when I first created this mod

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I can make a quick dirty fix to see if they still do

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actually, I sent dlk a hpbars that put them on everything that could potentially have one

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did you even try that, dlk?

compact sedge
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nah keep it IG not having a health bar is a really good thing

cunning lagoon
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nah lol

solemn rivet
floral furnace
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gradow just say its intended and you perfectly calculated it to happen, on purpose

solemn rivet
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I can see the future, you see

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also

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should I keep the bossbars on the husk bois?

cunning lagoon
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well they are not bosses

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but it's not really a big deal

solemn rivet
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just send me your modlog after hitting one of them

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I'll add them to the list with the wingsmoulds

cunning lagoon
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there are like 4 of them in one area so it's not like the wingmoulds where you can't avoid hitting them AND they cover your screen

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is the name fine

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Great Shield Zombie

solemn rivet
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the shame list

cunning lagoon
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they have 170 health

solemn rivet
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sure, the name works

cunning lagoon
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well they should have a normal bar

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bc they are still a killable enemy

solemn rivet
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yeah, but that's ez

cunning lagoon
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nice

compact sedge
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really tho why do wingsmoulds have the infected large enemy death?

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TC pls

solemn rivet
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don't they have 99999 hp?

cunning lagoon
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bc they are not meant to die so they prob were like "eh who cares"

compact sedge
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they have 100 hp

solemn rivet
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I thought that was the issue

cunning lagoon
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they have 999

solemn rivet
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oh

compact sedge
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oh 999

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nvm

solemn rivet
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yeah

compact sedge
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I thought they only had 100

cunning lagoon
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also i believe pogos dont always refresh the airdash in blackmoth

solemn rivet
cunning lagoon
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might be worth looking into that

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so like they give you the normal dash back but sometimes i was able to do the second dash and sometimes i wasnt

solemn rivet
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second dash?

cunning lagoon
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yeah the one you get with dashmaster

solemn rivet
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oh right

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you do realize it's 3 dashes, right?

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4 if you start grounded

cunning lagoon
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wtf

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whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

compact sedge
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yeah but can they do it hitless with an arcade stick?

cunning lagoon
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how come i didnt notice it before zote

compact sedge
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also yeah dashmaster gives u lots of dashes

cunning lagoon
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thats insane

compact sedge
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not as many as QS

floral furnace
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panth 5 with a dance pad when all bindings

solemn rivet
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shhh AA

compact sedge
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not as many as grubberfly

solemn rivet
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oh yeah

cunning lagoon
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also i still haven't been able to figure out when the lag happens :/

solemn rivet
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I have... To show you guys something

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brb

cunning lagoon
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it's fine for a while then suddenly it drops to 80fps and it stays like that until i restart the game

solemn rivet
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dlk I removed some things from checking every frame

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now they only run when a button is pressed

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maybe that'll help?

cunning lagoon
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oh nice

solemn rivet
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anyway, let me record something for y'all

compact sedge
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DL you need an ssd

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just like in general

cunning lagoon
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i do

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definitely

solemn rivet
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oh, I can't replicate it

cunning lagoon
solemn rivet
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I was trying out up-cdash last night

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and managed to somehow store cdash

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so if you held down cdash, pressed dash and held any direction

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you'd be flung like a slingshot

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it was great

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omg it's glorious

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you need grubber to get storage

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I might leave that as a feature

compact sedge
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YES

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this is glorious

floral furnace
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Assert dominance by tposting in the water

solemn rivet
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my kind of dominance imo

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the fact that you need grubbers to get it just makes it all so much better

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actually

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I wonder...

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maybe...

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here's what I think is happening

cunning lagoon
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nice

solemn rivet
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grubbers basically ignores the universe

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you can be standing, swimming, falling, dying, cdashing, whatever

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you press that dash button, u gon fly

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so I don't think it's because I basically broke the cdash fsm

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I think it's because of how grubber is

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the true blackmoth

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for (int i = 0; i < _superDash.GetState("Dashing").Actions.Length; i++)
{
    _superDash.RemoveAction("Dashing", i);
}

for (int i = 0; i < _superDash.GetState("Dash Start").Actions.Length; i++)
{
    _superDash.RemoveAction("Dash Start", i);
}```quality shitcode
fair rampart
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question: what is this "salubrakiller" I have found in my options after installing QoL?

cunning lagoon
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it mutes salubra's blessing

fair rampart
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oh that makes sense

cunning lagoon
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so if you have 3 dashes then what i think was happening is

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pogoing doesnt actually refresh the extra dashes and i was just using the extra one

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so thats why it wasnt consistent

solemn rivet
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oh

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I think I can fix that

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not rn

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but at least now I know that that feature is not in the base blackmoth

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nice

cunning lagoon
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also @compact sedge you can't actually go through shade gates without the shade cloak in blackmoth

compact sedge
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IK, same with redwing

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it's actually kinda interesting

solemn rivet
#

what why

#

didn't know that

compact sedge
#

idk

cunning lagoon
#

you literally told me the opposite the other day thinkgrub

compact sedge
#

wut

cunning lagoon
#

you told me you wouldn't need the cdash in a blackmoth speedrun because you have the shade cloak

compact sedge
#

I meant for doing crystal peak

#

because you can quad (or tri) air dash

fair rampart
#

I just downloaded bonfire mod, how do I close the menu?

compact sedge
#

you can travel like you have the crystal dash

#

I mean

#

for one

#

you can lake skip

#

easily

#

but also

cunning lagoon
#

right so you could do the acid skip with the updash

#

that makes sense

compact sedge
#

sure if you're fast enough

cunning lagoon
#

still

#

that's what confused me

compact sedge
#

well it's misleading

#

you don't HAVE the shade cloak you have the shade cloak ability for the most part

#

the shade cloak itself just gives you 2x damage and lets you go through the barriers

cunning lagoon
#

actually having the shade cloak would be insane

#

you could get into queen's gardens right after VS

leaden hedge
#

dont you need claw for beasts den

cunning lagoon
#

yea i dont think it would do much but you would have the option to go there

#

well maybe the updash would let you clear the jumps

#

you still wouldnt have dnail

#

but you can also solve that easily with the updash

#

maybe a blackmoth speedrun would skip claw entirely

solemn rivet
#

specially if it gets quickdash/dashmaster

cunning lagoon
#

quickdash is way out of the way to be worth it

#

unless its insanely overpowered

solemn rivet
#

it is

cunning lagoon
#

what does it do

solemn rivet
#

you know dashmaster?

hazy sentinel
#

invincibility intenseface

cunning lagoon
#

yes

solemn rivet
#

it's that, but x infinity

cunning lagoon
#

actually dont you need dive to get it

solemn rivet
#

you do

cunning lagoon
#

yea no way its faster then

solemn rivet
#

well

#

infinite dashes

#

ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

cunning lagoon
#

blackmoth 112%, on the other hand... ๐Ÿ‘€

solemn rivet
#

blackmoth 112 doesn't use quickdash tho

slow fable
#

i'd route it

solemn rivet
#

because it has grubberfly

cunning lagoon
#

wdymn

#

oh

solemn rivet
#

I mean, sure

cunning lagoon
#

idk what that does either

solemn rivet
#

till you get all grubs, qd is pretty useful

#

oh

#

I posted a video

#

uhhh

#

brb

cunning lagoon
#

oh its the cdash thing

solemn rivet
#

grubbermoth

#

and you're invincible btw

cunning lagoon
#

balanced

solemn rivet
hazy sentinel
#

blackmoth is the most well balanced hk mod

#

change my mind

solemn rivet
#

no

#

that's bonfire

#

you know that from experience m8

hazy sentinel
#

nah bonfire's hella unbalanced rn

#

can't even kill enemies in one shot by greenpath

cunning lagoon
#

wow

#

why even play it then

solemn rivet
#

too bad you can't relic dupe anymore

#

actually, you can

#

I removed that

#

oops

cunning lagoon
#

do you level up from geo or what

solemn rivet
#

ye

cunning lagoon
#

just fight ig for 6 hours

#

easy levels

solemn rivet
#

there was this time when veru glitched the mod while doing a room dupe

#

and got like 99 in every stat

hazy sentinel
solemn rivet
#

even better

#

you have video of that right?

hazy sentinel
#

and then i had to get a rancid egg to reset levels

#

because 0 str

solemn rivet
#

oh yeah

#

good times

hazy sentinel
#

float to CoT

#

big meme

cunning lagoon
#

wisdom 0

#

me irl zote

solemn rivet
#

but that dex

fair rampart
#

i think I found a bug in the Bonfire mod

#

if you go above 21 damage with it, it does your base nail damage

cunning lagoon
#

damn

fair rampart
#

maybe it works correctly if you have pure nail

#

that would make sense

solemn rivet
#

What does that even mean

fair rampart
#

h lo fellow code gamers

#

I have returned from my trip

hollow pier
#

was it a nice truip

fair rampart
#

very

cunning lagoon
#

nice

fair rampart
#

except the horseflies

#

screw them

floral furnace
#

horseflies arent that hard just nail bounce them then cast descending dark if you need too

#

but yeah their patterns need some getting used to

fair rampart
#

that would be nice

#

as it stands it was just
zzZZZZZZZ followed by a painful bite

cunning lagoon
#

yeah but they are like 90% rng that's the worst part

floral furnace
#

euch

cunning lagoon
#

so you can get good but it's still a slot machine

fair rampart
#

apparently there's a bug in that part of the country that the locals call a "newsbee" though

#

it doesn't bite or anything, it just flies around you and looks at you

#

curious little fella

floral furnace
#

still an annoyance tho tbh

fair rampart
#

naw

#

half the bugs there are nasty so it's a refreshing break

floral furnace
#

if theyre not biting that causes enough pain to regret your own existence, or if theyre not transmitting diseases that makes you also question your existence, its that theyre an annoyance

cunning lagoon
#

oh i see!! because its a game about bugs

fair rampart
#

the newsbee was pretty cute though

#

we went hiking up the creek and it followed us the whole way just checking us out

fair rampart
#

I have a question: how does strength work in the bonfire mod?
]

#

because It says I should do 20 damage yet I do like 10

stoic quest
#

so what's the best place to find mods

#

clearly isn't nexus :p

hazy sentinel
#

@fair rampart enemy hp increases

fair rampart
#

with your str?

hazy sentinel
#

@solemn rivet any update

runic skiff
#

you know I had an idea for a mod, but it involves spoilers for the new DLC

#

if anyone's okay with spoilers

cunning lagoon
#

please abstain from spoiling the dlc for me

#

thank you

runic skiff
#

np

#

lips are sealed

wide echo
#

So, where can I find all the mods

#

I downloaded Lightbringer

buoyant obsidian
cunning lagoon
#

it was a joke there is not much left to be spoiled for us

wide echo
#

Already got that

cunning lagoon
#

people who want to avoid spoilers probably won't read these channels

wide echo
#

Does the bonfire mod have the kinks worked out

hazy sentinel
#

no it still has a foot fetish

cunning lagoon
#

it goes back to its normal length if i leave and reenter the room

copper nacelle
#

does that happen in other spas

cunning lagoon
#

no clue

#

it goes back to being very long if i save and quit to that bench

frigid gale
#

check if not then its probably somethin with the room

#

or somethin

#

thats just a weird buggy

cunning lagoon
#

also stalking devouts have a boss healthabr @solemn rivet

cunning lagoon
#

hive guardians also have a boss healthbar zote

solemn rivet
#

DLK that updash might be because you're on water

#

try doing that same thing elsewhere

cunning lagoon
#

it's not

copper nacelle
#

it just happens whenever you're in the room?

cunning lagoon
#

i did it outside the water

#

yeah

copper nacelle
#

howmst 2nd phase abs rad balls

cunning lagoon
#

so like i benched there and stopped playing for a while

compact sedge
#

maybe gravity is less in that room

#

for some reason

hazy sentinel
#

tol room do the stretcc

cunning lagoon
#

i launched the game, started dashing around and noticed it

#

it doesn't have anything to do with the water

#

if you leave and reenter it doesn't happen anymore

#

and it happens again if you s+q

copper nacelle
#

the answer was ddark

cunning lagoon
#

haha yes

#

yeah it happens in any room

#

when you load a save

#

it goes away when you go to a different room

copper nacelle
#

new speedrun tech for blackmoth GWfroggyPoggers

cunning lagoon
#

early cp access from dirtmouth

#

except you still need cdash so it doesnt really work

#

but this should have some uses somewhere else

#

probably

buoyant obsidian
#

I can't remember are ints null upon creation in C#?

#

or are they unnullable or some shit

cunning lagoon
#

your lif is null

copper nacelle
#

int? is nullable

buoyant obsidian
#
if (chargeAbility == null)
            {
                chargeAbility = 1;
            }

#

this is angry

#

Well, not angry

#

unreachable

cunning lagoon
#

๐Ÿ˜ 

copper nacelle
#

ints aren't nullable

#

unless they're int?

buoyant obsidian
#

are they zero by default?

compact sedge
#

needs to be int? chargeAbility;

copper nacelle
#

fields default to zero but locals are just unassigned

#

iirc

compact sedge
#

int is initialized to 0 by default but if you try reading an int from reflection it could give you a NRE if you don't use a nullable int.

buoyant obsidian
#

I see

compact sedge
#

this is very much a c# thing btw

#

in many languages uninitialized variables take on effectively a random value (whatever was sitting there in ram before)

#

which is why it's good practice to explicitly initialize your vars

copper nacelle
#

java does the same thing iirc

compact sedge
#

yeah

cunning lagoon
#

wow quickdash is a very balanced charm

#

is there literally no reason to use dashmaster now

compact sedge
#

yes

cunning lagoon
#

nice

compact sedge
#

go throw dashmaster in a fire

buoyant obsidian
#

Hollow Knight likes to crash when Steam is broken

cunning lagoon
#

what???

#

u crazy man xD

copper nacelle
#

i need to write a plugin which removes xd from all messages

cunning lagoon
#

why? xD

#

OwO

copper nacelle
#

also that

buoyant obsidian
#

OwO is art

copper nacelle
#

no

buoyant obsidian
#

UwU

hazy sentinel
#

56w56

cunning lagoon
#

does sharp shadow do anything

#

in blackmoth

solemn rivet
#

phase through walls

cunning lagoon
solemn rivet
#

don't you watch like any videos I post?

cunning lagoon
#

nah lol

solemn rivet
#

literally the last video I sent you about blackmoth had me equipping sharp shadow and dashing through walls

cunning lagoon
#

wasnt that grubberfly

solemn rivet
#

yeah, but I equip sharp shadow too

cunning lagoon
#

ah well how do you expect me to figure it out!?!?

solemn rivet
#

because you can see me equipping it?

cunning lagoon
#

hmm

#

must be a bug

frigid gale
#

wut

#

its like hes headbutting over and over

cunning lagoon
#

yea

#

how strange

fossil oxide
#

Use crystal dash there

hollow pier
#

just jump lol

cunning lagoon
#

I will not use crystal dash there

#

great i got a white screen after killing lurien

#

who do i blame for this @solemn rivet @copper nacelle

#

fuckin broken ass mods

hollow pier
#

that's vanilla

cunning lagoon
#

u are vanilla

hollow pier
#

you get it all the time if you play the game

cunning lagoon
#

i havent seen it in vanilla

#

after like

copper nacelle
#

wow nice

cunning lagoon
#

a dozen playthroughs

copper nacelle
#

not my problemโ„ข

#

is that actually a vanilla thing wtf

cunning lagoon
#

i very much doubt it

#

DreamRespawner came back from the dead to haunt my playthroughs

copper nacelle
#

wouldn't even affect wk

#

no door_dreamReturn

cunning lagoon
#

maybe it's a blackmoth thing

#

but i can't see how

#

it doesn't change anything related to this

#

or does it

copper nacelle
#

no more eeeeeeeeeee

cunning lagoon
#

nice

hollow pier
#

skurry got whitescreen all the time

cunning lagoon
#

oh ok

#

wow infinite updash makes abyss not ResidentSleeper anymore

trim totem
#

56 what's this

cunning lagoon
#

OwO

trim totem
#

uwu

hazy sentinel
cunning lagoon
#

good job Verulean

copper nacelle
#

@trim totem gateron blue mechanical keyboard switches

cunning lagoon
#

blues are the best cmm

#

ok glad to know im right

trim totem
#

nice

copper nacelle
#

I can't change your mind bc you're right

cunning lagoon
#

๐Ÿ˜Ž

fossil oxide
#

How does the nail binding work

#

Does it set the damage to 13 or modify it in some way

copper nacelle
#

13 is cap

#

otherwise percent decrease

#

idk the percent

fossil oxide
#

Ah oki

copper nacelle
#

i'm gonna make a slash fsm property and no one can stop me

solemn rivet
#

56 do you have the superdash fsm?

copper nacelle
#

like dumped?

#

is it on the knight

solemn rivet
#

ye

copper nacelle
solemn rivet
#

ty

copper nacelle
#

yw

solemn rivet
#

I think I'm gonna have to rewrite the whole superdash mechanic for it to work

#

because it checks every frame if velocity = (30,0)

#

and if it isn't, it stops the dash

copper nacelle
#

agony

#

can you not kill the check?

cunning lagoon
#

๐Ÿ”ช โœ…

copper nacelle
#

absolutely not 753 irl

solemn rivet
#

I've been trying to

#

did you see the slingshot?

copper nacelle
#

yes

solemn rivet
#
 \----PFSM ---- FloatTestToBool (everyFrame) = True
 \----PFSM ---- FloatTestToBool (float1) = 30
 \----PFSM ---- FloatTestToBool (float1 Name) = Speed
 \----PFSM ---- FloatTestToBool (float2) = 0
 \----PFSM ---- FloatTestToBool (float2 Name) = 
 \----PFSM ---- FloatTestToBool (greaterThanBool) = True
 \----PFSM ---- FloatTestToBool (lessThanBool) = False
 \----PFSM ---- FloatTestToBool (equalBool) = False
 \----PFSM ---- FloatTestToBool (tolerance) = 0.1```
#

hehzote

copper nacelle
fossil oxide
cunning lagoon
copper nacelle
#

change the tolerance to 31

#

ez

copper nacelle
#

what c# version does hk use

compact sedge
#

trick question they use mono because they use Unity

copper nacelle
#

ech

#

can i do default when tho

compact sedge
#

and before you ask which version of mono they use

#

they use a custom one because unity uses a fork of it

copper nacelle
#

inb4 3 different ones

#

what the fuck

#

can u don't

compact sedge
copper nacelle
#

hhhhhhhhhh

compact sedge
#

glhf

copper nacelle
#

ree

compact sedge
#

glhf figuring out which one of their 347 releases is bundled with HK.

copper nacelle
#

simplest trick in the book

#

test it and see how violently it fails

leaden hedge
#

can't you use Application.unityVersion to get the the version ๐Ÿค”

compact sedge
#

is that the version of unity or mono?

#

truth be told asking what version of c# hk uses is a bad question

#

because it doesn't really matter... mostly

#

until stuff breaks

leaden hedge
#

it doesn't even matter

#

because those new releases aren't even used afaik

copper nacelle
#

default when doesn't exist anyway

#

my life is a lie

leaden hedge
#

pretty sure unity uses a really old "stable" version of mono

compact sedge
#

they do

#

but they also have their own special patches in it I think

leaden hedge
#

Branches for released Unity versions are of the form unity-<version>[-mbe][-staging]. The '-staging' suffix is used as a branch for PRs to target with potential changes. The '-mbe' suffix indicates the branch is for the MonoBleedingEdge version of Mono mentioned above.

#

so you'd be able to find it from the unityVersion

compact sedge
#

ok

#

but idk why it matters

leaden hedge
#

doesn't

#

I just assume old and no support for anything new

#

but it shouldn't be hard to figure out the exact version they use

copper nacelle
#

if i do

HeroController.instance.slashComponent = HeroController.instance.normalSlash;
HeroController.instance.slashComponent.StartSlash();
#

can i replace the last line w/

HeroController.instance.normalSlash.StartSlash();
leaden hedge
#

maybe

copper nacelle
#

thanks

leaden hedge
#

it should be a shallow copy

#

so I'd assume so

copper nacelle
#

thanks

#

trying to get rid of some of the reflection

compact sedge
#

smh I thought you loved reflection

copper nacelle
#

reflection is great

#

9 billion lines of reflection in one method is not great

cunning lagoon
#

Reflection is a pretty cool chapter but Summit is my personal favourite

copper nacelle
#

2b

hollow pier
#

or not

copper nacelle
#

u

buoyant obsidian
#

is git's diff checking that bad?

copper nacelle
#

no

#

all the lines were going over my line limit

buoyant obsidian
#

ah

#

fuck the limit

#

you don't need to read the whole line

rain cedar
#

Why don't you just use self and self.playerData?

copper nacelle
#

good question

rain cedar
#

Also no idea what you're talking about with line limit

copper nacelle
#

line length limit

rain cedar
#

Is that a gitlab thing?

copper nacelle
#

all my lines were getting wrapped

rain cedar
#

Oh you don't mean an actual limit

#

Just turn off wrap

#

If that's not an option use a better IDE

buoyant obsidian
#

I mean it's more a readability thing

copper nacelle
#

yeah i just changed it to 180

buoyant obsidian
#

just get a 4k monitor

#

and change it to 400

copper nacelle
#

woke

buoyant obsidian
#

I still need an extra 1080p monitor I can turn vertical for coding

rain cedar
#

A second monitor or a third one?

#

Idk how many you have now

buoyant obsidian
#

a first monitor

rain cedar
#

Interesting idea

buoyant obsidian
#

I have 3 but half are in really outdated resolutions

#

only one is 1080p

rain cedar
#

Upgrading to another outdated resolution lul

copper nacelle
#

I have two good ones w/ the bad one being used for discord

buoyant obsidian
#

1080p is the final resolution

#

4k is a joke

copper nacelle
#

I've heard 1440p is good

buoyant obsidian
#

tempting tbh

copper nacelle
#

you ever refactor something and then realize you refactored it in the wrong way

trim totem
#

no

copper nacelle
#

i created two vars but i should've added an enum

hollow pier
#

just expand it lol

hazy sentinel
#

awa stream twovarria

hollow pier
#

did he ever

#

when did he stop

copper nacelle
#

very sane amount of params

#

i also have an overload and two functions which just call it

#

make that 3

hollow pier
#

make that :3

copper nacelle
copper nacelle
#

fuck i broke everything

floral furnace
#

nice

copper nacelle
#

try casting and check if it's null ez

#

ahh that literally just refactored itself back into that

#

is this loss

#

oh it's null

#

agony

#

ok i fixed one case

#

@buoyant obsidian does no charms have no recoil or did i just fuck it up

#

h a h a y e s

#

i unfucked evreything

#

i either introduced a bug or found one

#

nope i introduced a bug

floral furnace
#

big

copper nacelle
#

u

solemn rivet
#

no u

copper nacelle
floral furnace
#

i thought you were doing recursion or something then i noticed theyre both different methods apparently GWchadMEGATHINK

copper nacelle
#

don't worry i added some recursion

#

idk which one i'm even using cause all the charm names are different

#

re

void fractal
#

don't know if this is the right channel, but does anyone know if there's a fresh Godseeker save file out there?

#

or is anyone able to send one here? I'm on switch or I wouldn't be asking

copper nacelle
#

in?

void fractal
#

phone did im->in instead of I'm

copper nacelle
#

you can swap out switch save files?

#

TIL

void fractal
#

no

#

not to my knowledge

#

I have a friend on PC who's been struggling and really wants to try sisters of battle

copper nacelle
#

oh ok

#

you can't get that w/ a fresh file

#

i have a save file w/ it unlocked in HoG if you want it

void fractal
#

wait, why doesn't a Godseeker file work? the game is smart enough to know you shouldn't have it unlocked yet?

copper nacelle
#

godseeker is after p4 iirc

#

idk

#

lemme check

void fractal
#

it's after p3

copper nacelle
#

sisters of battle is p5 GWchadMEGATHINK

void fractal
#

yes but Godseeker mode has it unlocked

copper nacelle
#

wtf

#

ok

void fractal
#

hence me asking for Godseeker mode savefile

#

it'll be in Hall of gods with everything else

#

(absrad still locked behind gate)

copper nacelle
#

gimme like

#

20 seconds

void fractal
#

yeah, no rush!

copper nacelle
void fractal
#

siqq. thanks a lot!

copper nacelle
#

yw

#

sorry for the confusion i'm dumb

void fractal
#

lolol, no problem

solemn rivet
#

56 what fsmviewer are you using?

#

I think I have an older version

solemn rivet
#

ty

solemn rivet
#

holy fuck

#

I'm looking at the superdash fsm

#

it's such a mess

copper nacelle
#

tc irl

solemn rivet
#

it's like

#

3 different places setting the same bool

#

and 6 checking its value

#

and it all condenses into one variable

#

wtf

#

why

copper nacelle
#

cause tc

solemn rivet
floral furnace
#

its like a modern art masterpiece

copper nacelle
solemn rivet
#

how do I make a coroutine run every frame until I tell it to stop?

rain cedar
#

yield return null

floral furnace
#

~~do while loop with an wait until end of frame yield GWchadMEGATHINK ~~ wait nvm

rain cedar
#

yield break

#
while (true)
{
     DoAThing();
     if (ShouldStop()) yield break;
     yield return null;
}```
solemn rivet
#

got it

rain cedar
#
IEnumerator hello()
{
     do
     {
          yield return null;
          StartCoroutine(hello());
     }
     while (!false)
}```
solemn rivet
copper nacelle
#

won't that while always be true

solemn rivet
#

yeah, but I just wanna know if the overall structure makes sense

compact sedge
#

no put the yield return null in the while loop

solemn rivet
#

ok

compact sedge
#

cuz basically when you yield return null

#

the function resumes from that point

solemn rivet
#

will the code over reach below the while tho?

#

or will it get stuck there till it's false

compact sedge
#

no

#

because speed is never modified

#

it's always 30f

solemn rivet
#

hm...

#

maybe I shouldn't use coroutines then

compact sedge
#

even if you put the other code inside the while loop speed would still always be 30f

solemn rivet
#

yeah, I'm gonna change speed later

compact sedge
#

well it's more like the float you have is never modified

#

you could do speed -= 1f;

solemn rivet
#

I'm only trying to grasp the overall structure of how coroutines work

#

I know, AA, this is just barebones, I know the while will loop forever

compact sedge
#

ok

solemn rivet
#

I'll make the speed read from somewhere else

#

but for now I need at least this to work

copper nacelle
#

yeah that'd work fine then w/ a yield return null inside that while loop then

solemn rivet
#

so, I'm trying to mimic this:

#

wait

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I'm a dungo

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nvm

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I can just set the gravity before the while

copper nacelle
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wouldn't that make you fall while you cdash up

rain cedar
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Perfect

copper nacelle
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u right

solemn rivet
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I'll make the gravity scale = 0

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and disable gravity

copper nacelle
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HeroController.instance.affectedByGravity(false);

solemn rivet
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because the fsmviewer doesn't get that field

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yeah