archived-modding-development

[copper nacelle]

ez

[solemn rivet]

oh

nice

[cunning lagoon]

so public override void Initialize()?

[copper nacelle]

ye

[solemn rivet]

yeah

[copper nacelle]

uhhhhh

[solemn rivet]

[static cloak]

i actually really wonder about the creator of this mod's balancing...

decisions

[copper nacelle]

[static cloak]

the scaling is utter bullshit

radiance

[copper nacelle]

it was literally started off as easy mode

what do you expect

[compact sedge]

yeah sorry about that

[static cloak]

no like

radiance

[compact sedge]

I can't balance shit

[static cloak]

wanna work on it with me tommorow

[copper nacelle]

@buoyant obsidian woke

[compact sedge]

wait ur calling me radiance now

yes

sure

[copper nacelle]

also woke

[static cloak]

alright it will be a long day

[solemn rivet]

change your name again AA

[static cloak]

around 4-5 hours should be enough to have near perfect values

[solemn rivet]

he's onto you

👀

[compact sedge]

no I like being called the radiance

[static cloak]

is that cool

[compact sedge]

this is awesome

[solemn rivet]

what if I call you absrad?

then shadoe will hate you

[copper nacelle]

so will gittle

[solemn rivet]

ye

[cunning lagoon]

and nothing of value was lost

[solemn rivet]

and like all of the subreddit

[static cloak]

i think this mod has lots of cool potential with the right values

imo

[solemn rivet]

tbh dlk is right

[copper nacelle]

yeah

[compact sedge]

This is like being a big fan of Jimi Hendrix and someone calling me Hendrix. And yeah I know he's dead. I know the radiance is too.

[copper nacelle]

new lightbringer is out

[static cloak]

rad

add me

discord is bugged

can't add you myself

[compact sedge]

ok

[static cloak]

didnt know you were the mod creator

[solemn rivet]

can people call me mum? I'm a big fan of ur mum

[copper nacelle]

step 1 to getting the mod creator to help you is calling the mod bad

[cunning lagoon]

ok mum

[solemn rivet]

TIL

[compact sedge]

to be tbh I'll let you be in charge of balancing it

[static cloak]

to be fair the values are complete trash

[solemn rivet]

expected, ngl

[static cloak]

the assets and other things are awesome

[solemn rivet]

thank papers tbh

[compact sedge]

the... procedural assets?

[solemn rivet]

he's awesome

[compact sedge]

well except for the shield

that's all papers

[solemn rivet]

and the procedural stuff is also awesome

[hazy sentinel]

make all attacks do 2000 damage

[static cloak]

are you high

no

3000

[compact sedge]

3000 isn't enough we need to be able to kill infinite enemies

at least 9999 dmg

[copper nacelle]

10k

[static cloak]

make fireball heal you

[hazy sentinel]

1.2b

[static cloak]

if you kill an enemy with it

you get a full heal

[cunning lagoon]

1.2🅱

[copper nacelle]

wow is this grimmchild upgrades but for yourself

[static cloak]

if you kill 2 enemies

you get triple shield

[hazy sentinel]

your nail damage scales linearly with how much damage you do to inf grimm

[static cloak]

this is so balanced fuck i love myself

[cunning lagoon]

hey whats up fellow modders how do i progress

[hazy sentinel]

just run through IG a couple times and get 999999 nail damage

[solemn rivet]

where u at dlk?

[cunning lagoon]

fuck if i know

i just pasted the code 56 gave me

[solemn rivet]

no, veru, it has to be high score only

[copper nacelle]

ok so you want to make a new class

[hazy sentinel]

yeah

[copper nacelle]

HuFinder

[hazy sentinel]

IG high score

[copper nacelle]

which is like HuFinder : MonoBehaviour

which means it inherits from MonoBehaviour, getting its fields and methods and stuff

[solemn rivet]

good practice is to make it its own file btw dlk

[copper nacelle]

^

[cunning lagoon]

ok i will do so

[solemn rivet]

same namespace

[hazy sentinel]

Huz Mother

[solemn rivet]

Haz Mather

[hazy sentinel]

marshall mathers

[solemn rivet]

when are you gonna read fanfiction to us again veru?

[hazy sentinel]

ok time to do my summer reading assignment the day before school starts

[cunning lagoon]

is this right

[solemn rivet]

sure

[cunning lagoon]

lets gooooooo

[hazy sentinel]

r u danG

[cunning lagoon]

my pfp is literally danny g's tshirt

[hazy sentinel]

where's the gold chain smh

[solemn rivet]

I need my fix of RWBY fics

[cunning lagoon]

[solemn rivet]

do something veru

[copper nacelle]

using UnityEngine;

[hazy sentinel]

i need to find 10 quotes from this book and write about them

[solemn rivet]

ok

[cunning lagoon]

thanks 56

what about the unityengine.core or whatever

[copper nacelle]

that's a ref

doesn't need to be using'd

[cunning lagoon]

ok

[solemn rivet]

dlk, like I said

in the future, might consider moving that into its own file

[cunning lagoon]

ok

how

[solemn rivet]

will make your code more readable, which is good for everyone, including you

project add new class

[copper nacelle]

                    case AttackDirection.downward:
                        HeroController.instance.SetAttr("slashComponent", HeroController.instance.downSlash);
                        HeroController.instance.SetAttr("slashFsm", HeroController.instance.downSlashFsm);
                        HeroController.instance.cState.downAttacking = true;
                        HeroController.instance.downSlashFsm.FsmVariables.GetFsmFloat("direction").Value = 270f;
                        HeroController.instance.GetAttr<NailSlash>("slashComponent").StartSlash();
                        break;

I could just make the bottom line HeroController.instance.downSlash.StartSlash() right? cause it's copy by reference

[cunning lagoon]

what do i name it

HuFinder?

[copper nacelle]

ye

[solemn rivet]

whatever you want to

[cunning lagoon]

what even is HuFinder anyway

[solemn rivet]

sure

[copper nacelle]

it's a finder

for hu

which will add the component to hu which makes him cool

[solemn rivet]

it's a component for a game object

you can think of it as... A tool of sorts for that object

[cunning lagoon]

do i have to add the using Modding; and all of that

[copper nacelle]

also am i being dumb about the copy by ref thing or no

[cunning lagoon]

or is that done automatically

[copper nacelle]

no

[solemn rivet]

for instance, my enemyhpbars are components as well

[copper nacelle]

it's not done automatically but you're fine for this file

[solemn rivet]

wdym by copy by ref 56

[cunning lagoon]

are you sure because i have red lines under MonoBehaviour

[solemn rivet]

you need to using unity engine

[cunning lagoon]

which went away after doing using UnityEngine;

[copper nacelle]

put that in the other file too

[cunning lagoon]

ok

[copper nacelle]

gradow i mean like

[copper nacelle]

var x = new Thingy();
var y = x;
x.StartSlash() is the same as y.StartSlash()
right?

[cunning lagoon]

is this right

[solemn rivet]

not necessarily 56

[copper nacelle]

yeah

[solemn rivet]

it depends on the type of the Thingy

but it's right dlk

[copper nacelle]

Thingy where Thingy : object

[cunning lagoon]

[solemn rivet]

I think it's a copy, not a reference

but idk

where's sean?

[copper nacelle]

iirc structs/primitives are copies

objects are ref

[solemn rivet]

yeah

maybe

I'm really not sure

gameobjects are refs

that much I'm sure

[copper nacelle]

idk i'll try it

i could just call orig here actually

i think

[cunning lagoon]

ok where do i add the new cool attacks

[solemn rivet]

[cunning lagoon]

[copper nacelle]

you want something like

        private GameObject _kin;

        private void Start()
        {
            Logger.Log("[Lost Lord] Added KinFinder MonoBehaviour");
        }

        private void Update()
        {
            if (_kin != null) return;
            _kin = GameObject.Find("Lost Kin");
            if (_kin == null) return;
            _kin.AddComponent<Kin>();
}

[compact sedge]

that but in a coroutine

[copper nacelle]

ur a coroutine

why tho

[compact sedge]

yeah let's run AddComponent every single frame even tho we only need to do it once

[cunning lagoon]

i don't understand any of this wizardry

[copper nacelle]

no that's why the return is there

dungo

kin gets set to a value

so it stops adding

[compact sedge]

so you check if something's null every single frame without fail

[copper nacelle]

yes

highly optimized code

oh unless you haven't beaten lost kin

in that case it just doesn't check at all

@cunning lagoon

        private GameObject _hu;

        private void Start()
        {
            Logger.Log("[Ancient Hu] Added HuFinder MonoBehaviour");
        }

        private void Update()
        {
            if (_hu != null) return;
            _hu = GameObject.Find("idk what hu's name is so put it here");
            if (_hu == null) return;
            _hu.AddComponent<Hu or something>();
}

idk

checking scene name would be a good idea

[cunning lagoon]

that inside public class HuFinder : MonoBehaviour?

[copper nacelle]

yeah

you can make that internal btw

[cunning lagoon]

idk what hu's name is so put it here

[copper nacelle]

yes

you can check in the viewer

it'll be like

Hu's Name - FSM Name

[cunning lagoon]

Ghost Warrior Hu?

[copper nacelle]

yeah

[cunning lagoon]

_hu.AddComponent < Hu or something> ();

whats this

[compact sedge]

hu but he doesn't do that stupid attack from the sides where it's so easy to dodge and get in heals during

[copper nacelle]

another monobehaviour

name it whatever you want then make it

[cunning lagoon]

[copper nacelle]

so like

JADjklaskjldajskldasd

could be it

or AncientHuBehaviour

or Hu

[cunning lagoon]

ok i called it AncientHuBehaviour

[copper nacelle]

ok

now make AncientHuBehaviour

in another file

[cunning lagoon]

ok

add class?

[copper nacelle]

yeah

[cunning lagoon]

or add compoennt

ok

[copper nacelle]

need : MonoBehaviour

on ancient hu behaviour

also separate file

if you haven't

[cunning lagoon]

not sure what that means

using System;
using System.Collections.Generic;
using System.Linq;
using System.Text;
using Modding;
using UnityEngine;

namespace ElderHu
{
    class AncientHuBehaviour
    {
    }
}

this is the other file

also how do i make the formatting have cool colours

[copper nacelle]

```cs

[cunning lagoon]

ok

[copper nacelle]

class AncientHuBehaviour : MonoBehaviour

[cunning lagoon]

ah

[solemn rivet]

Modding.Logger

[copper nacelle]

^

[solemn rivet]

you can using too

[cunning lagoon]

ok

[solemn rivet]

but I don't remember the syntax

[copper nacelle]

using Logger = Modding.Logger;

[solemn rivet]

^

[copper nacelle]

i do the same thing for unity's objects

using UObject = UnityEngine.Object;

[solemn rivet]

U

[copper nacelle]

no u

me irl

[solemn rivet]

gonna take some time off of studying for now

should I make modcommon silently install?

[copper nacelle]

uhh

yes

[solemn rivet]

k

should I check if the folder is "Hollow Knight Godmaster" and assume pirate in case it is?

[copper nacelle]

idk about that cause people rename

maybe check steam dll and that?

or check appid.txt and that

appid is for people who rename and run hk from other folders w/ steam

[solemn rivet]

hmmm

[copper nacelle]

agony

[solemn rivet]

what is this appid file you speak of

[copper nacelle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/283467985224466442/481482254841806859/steam_appid.txt

you put it in the folder hk is in

and even w/ the folder renamed it'll run

good for downpatching

[solemn rivet]

das good shit

[copper nacelle]

yes

[cunning lagoon]

how do i proceed

[copper nacelle]

uhh

var _fsm = gameObject.LocateMyFSM("FSM NAME");

add FsmUtil.cs to your mod

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/5FiftySix6/HollowKnight.Lost-Lord/master/LostLord/FsmUtil.cs

then you do stuff like

[cunning lagoon]

do i paste that in a new class?

[copper nacelle]

_fsm.ChangeTransition("State", "Transition', "Do something else")

you save it in the folder

[cunning lagoon]

oh

[copper nacelle]

then add it

i mean copy pasting would work ig

[cunning lagoon]

ok

i think i did it

[copper nacelle]

haha yes

[cunning lagoon]

so where do i get the fsm anme

is it just Ghost Warrior Hu-Attacking

[copper nacelle]

in the fsm viewer it'll be like

ye

that

so it'd be

Attacking

[cunning lagoon]

is the [101056b] relevant

[copper nacelle]

no

[cunning lagoon]

ok

[copper nacelle]

put that stuff in like

private void Start()
{
}

[cunning lagoon]

i have that in HuFinder

[copper nacelle]

you need it in the other one

with the var and stuff inside of it

[cunning lagoon]

Class1 or AncientHuBehaviour

[copper nacelle]

latter

[cunning lagoon]

ok so do i just move all the stuff that gives me errors there

[copper nacelle]

only the AncientHuBehaviour errors

[cunning lagoon]

hah alrighty ill do that :D

why is this a problem

[compact sedge]

put it inside the class

[cunning lagoon]

ahhh

no error now

thank you angle

what does private void mean

[compact sedge]

private means you can't access it from other classes without reflection

and void means it doesn't return anything

[cunning lagoon]

oh

how do i deal with these 2

[rain cedar]

#1 idk, it's not finding your class

#2 inherit from Mod

[copper nacelle]

wtf

@cunning lagoon is it still AncientHu : Mod

also show init

[cunning lagoon]

yeah its AncientHu : Mod

whats init

[copper nacelle]

Initialize

[cunning lagoon]

public override void Initalize()
        {
            ModHooks.Instance.AfterSavegameLoadHook += AfterSaveGameLoad;
            ModHooks.Instance.NewGameHook += AddComponent;
        }

that?

[static cloak]

this chat reminds me of my programming classes

god bless

[copper nacelle]

yeah

[rain cedar]

Show it in context

[cunning lagoon]

[rain cedar]

Oh you spelled it wrong

If that was just copy paste

[cunning lagoon]

oh

nice

thanks

[copper nacelle]

[cunning lagoon]

[copper nacelle]

i gtg for a bit

[cunning lagoon]

[copper nacelle]

for examples on modifying FSMs there's
https://github.com/5FiftySix6/HollowKnight.Lost-Lord/blob/master/LostLord/Kin.cs
https://github.com/5FiftySix6/HollowKnight.Mantis-Gods/blob/master/Mantis Gods/Lord.cs

[static cloak]

ahhh there it is

good ol' gradow

also galaxy.dll?

[solemn rivet]

for gog

like I said, steam isn't the only platform this game is available on

👀

[static cloak]

yeah, never saw a galaxy.dll file on cracked files tho

[solemn rivet]

yeah, that's why it doesn't accuse you of being a pirate if such a file exists

[static cloak]

can't wait for redwing's rebalancing tbh

[unborn badger]

@copper nacelle brute force

Destroy the pillar with brute force

[static cloak]

does hallow knight god's patch change any of the early-mid game

[cunning lagoon]

no

[static cloak]

oh

I thought it did

someone slap me

[hollow pier]

re-reading the 4th last message you posted should be punishment enough

[static cloak]

no wonder mudkip can learn toxic

[cunning lagoon]

almost anyone can

[solemn rivet]

so

who wants to volunteer

[static cloak]

me

[hollow pier]

All Pokémon who can learn TMs can learn Toxic except Unown, Wobbuffet, Wynaut, Kricketot, Burmy, Tynamo, Spewpa, and Magearna.

makes you think

[static cloak]

I can delete a few of my files

[solemn rivet]

ok

[cunning lagoon]

what's a magearna

[solemn rivet]

open your mod installer

[hollow pier]

a gen7

[solemn rivet]

DLK

[hollow pier]

recall lando mag tapus

[solemn rivet]

it's a gear

[hollow pier]

that's the mag in lando mag tapus

[solemn rivet]

^

[cunning lagoon]

it this robotic diancie

[hollow pier]

yes that thing

[solemn rivet]

lore: it's said to be where the original pokeball design came from

it has a special form and all

[static cloak]

a special mon

the way you get it?

a fucking code

[cunning lagoon]

wow thats a new one

[hollow pier]

that's how you get like every special mon

[static cloak]

got the installer updated

[solemn rivet]

did it update with no issue?

[static cloak]

i didn't mess with my hollow knight files yet

but yes

[solemn rivet]

ok

try uninstalling modcommon using the installer

[cunning lagoon]

ptk which pokemon is gonna be your next pfp

[solemn rivet]

use magearna

[static cloak]

how the fuck you do that

[hollow pier]

idk

[static cloak]

modcommon is hidden after the installation

[solemn rivet]

nice

then it's working as intended

thank you day

[static cloak]

i've been used

no

[solemn rivet]

let me push the code btw

[static cloak]

should I download a cracked version of hollow knight

to test the steam thing

[hollow pier]

why absrad trash

final phase free

[cunning lagoon]

😡

[hollow pier]

climb impos tbh

[compact sedge]

does clicking install modapi also install modcommon?

[cunning lagoon]

climb defo hardest phase now

[hollow pier]

most consistent way to climb is randomly dashing change my mind

[solemn rivet]

how do I save and quit in vim again

[hollow pier]

alt f4

[cunning lagoon]

[solemn rivet]

got it

esc -> : -> wq!

[static cloak]

did team cherry ever come here

to talk with the modders and shit

[cunning lagoon]

graig's here like every day

[solemn rivet]

good shit

[cunning lagoon]

nice

[static cloak]

who

[cunning lagoon]

lead playtester

[solemn rivet]

graig

[static cloak]

ari gibson or william pellen

[young walrus]

no. they hate us

[static cloak]

oh

[young walrus]

graig is a play tester

is here a lot

[solemn rivet]

will tolerates us

[static cloak]

thats still super cool

[cunning lagoon]

i've seen will here a couple times

never seen ari

[solemn rivet]

I remember when steam leaked a beta which had some GM content

and will was like "shit, what have we left in"

but there was nothing

[cunning lagoon]

[solemn rivet]

actually, there was one thing

two things

the title screen background

and the icon for the GM gamemode

[static cloak]

to be fair

title screen background is super sweet

[cunning lagoon]

[static cloak]

i like on his main pic his glasses are distorted

[trim totem]

blessed image

[cunning lagoon]

ari is one sexy man

no homo

[static cloak]

full homo dude

im surprised at the amount of experience they have

thought they were new to the scene

[cunning lagoon]

who

[static cloak]

both

the co directors

[solemn rivet]

they are

the code is shite

they literally had to redo a lot of the game for the switch release because of how messe up the code was

it ran too poorly for the switch

[static cloak]

i dont know a single dev team whose code isn't complete trash

[solemn rivet]

massive fps drops

[static cloak]

besides blizzard

[solemn rivet]

celeste

[static cloak]

I forgot that the art was only created by one dude

man i could look at almost every frame of hollow knight and stare at it for a few solid minutes

[solemn rivet]

I haven't looked at celeste code myself, but people from here who have done so, say it's uncanny how absurdly better than HK's it is

[compact sedge]

psure that's not because it's good just because HK code is shit

[solemn rivet]

I think I recall KDT saying the code was actually pretty good

[static cloak]

to be fair on release day

[solemn rivet]

and he would know

[static cloak]

i didn't find a single bug

[solemn rivet]

right?

then your game was broken, day

[cunning lagoon]

idk i found many bugs in this game

[static cloak]

and I licked every wall

[solemn rivet]

because the game is literally filled with bugs

in the first room there are like 10 of them

[cunning lagoon]

(get it? it's a game about bugs)

[solemn rivet]

^

[static cloak]

there was one bug on where my nail created shockwaves however

i miss that bug

: (

[compact sedge]

Video games can occasionally have good or above average code but:

I think video games and amazing code are mutually exclusive for the most part. Aside from a few rare exceptions like that one quick square root function in doomquake. To make a game requires creating a product of such complexity that you should at best write above average code or risk it going way over deadlines.

[cunning lagoon]

I think video games and amazing code are mutually exclusive for the most part. Aside from a few rare exceptions like that one quick square root function in doomquake. To make a game requires creating a product of such complexity that you should at best write above average code or risk it going way over deadlines.

[static cloak]

I think video games and amazing code are mutually exclusive for the most part. Aside from a few rare exceptions like that one quick square root function in doomquake. To make a game requires creating a product of such complexity that you should at best write above average code or risk it going way over deadlines.

[compact sedge]

ha you can't paste ~~ get rekt

[solemn rivet]

I think video games and amazing code are mutually exclusive for the most part. Aside from a few rare exceptions like that one quick square root function in doomquake. To make a game requires creating a product of such complexity that you should at best write above average code or risk it going way over deadlines.(not edited anymore)

[cunning lagoon]

(edited)

[solemn rivet]

[static cloak]

good job gradow

you had one job

i think code correlates with experiences however

[compact sedge]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_inverse_square_root#Overview_of_the_code this is sexy tho not gonna lie.

[static cloak]

it doesn't demonstrate your game design abilities however

which is one of the biggest things you need

not clean code

look at league

(^:

[buoyant obsidian]

League runs well though

[solemn rivet]

753 do you have the steam_api.dll

[static cloak]

optimization is a different matter

[solemn rivet]

or the steam_appid

[static cloak]

its uncanny the bugs that they have

if you bother to try some interactions

[solemn rivet]

o Graig is here

[buoyant obsidian]

uh

[solemn rivet]

I'm trying to figure out why you got a false positive, 753

[cunning lagoon]

because he is a pirate

[static cloak]

a filthy pirate

[solemn rivet]

[static cloak]

[compact sedge]

wtf

[solemn rivet]

should I display a message like "the FBI has been contacted"

or something

[static cloak]

he has a treasure box full of them boys

internet provider

please

that sounds super believable

[compact sedge]

set this as their desktop background

[static cloak]

"your internet provider has been contacted by this act of piracy"

[solemn rivet]

753: what about in your Hollow Knight directory?

[static cloak]

actually you can even get the internet provider's name

without breaking any laws

[compact sedge]

whois baby

[buoyant obsidian]

there are no dlls in there

should there be?

[compact sedge]

(actually no you might be breaking the gdpr doing that idk)

[static cloak]

nah you don't

[solemn rivet]

👀

[static cloak]

i had a legal class on that subject

at least not in europe

[solemn rivet]

is there a steam_appid.txt there then, 753?

[compact sedge]

so what I don't get is why 753's looks more like mine than y'alls

also if he were to reinstall the game would it place it in the same spot

what if y'all were to reinstall the game

[buoyant obsidian]

too many false positives

like what happens to people who got it via disk?

[solemn rivet]

we all have that under plugins, even pirates

so that's a no-go

[compact sedge]

ok so everyone has it in their plugins folder?

oh

[solemn rivet]

but do you have that file, 753?

the txt

[buoyant obsidian]

which txt?

[solemn rivet]

steam_appid.txt

in the Hollow Knight folder

[buoyant obsidian]

nope

[solemn rivet]

wtf

how are you not in jail yet

[buoyant obsidian]

what

what even is it

[solemn rivet]

arrest this man

[static cloak]

fbi open up

[buoyant obsidian]

also you know there are DRM free versions of the game right?

[cunning lagoon]

i dont have steam_appid.txt either

[solemn rivet]

ye

[cunning lagoon]

[solemn rivet]

I'm checking for those 753

[buoyant obsidian]

DRM free means there would be nothing different about a pirated version and a legit version...

[compact sedge]

can you sha1sum steam_api or check if it's legit some other way maybe with reflection?

[static cloak]

not exactly 753

[compact sedge]

can you download the pirated version of HK steam_api.dll and put it in dnspy?

or is it a c++ binary

[solemn rivet]

idk

not risking it

[static cloak]

risking what

lol

[solemn rivet]

dlk I don't have that file either, but mick does

people who downpatch a lot do

[cunning lagoon]

oh

[compact sedge]

so it's a relic file that was removed by newer patches?

[solemn rivet]

no

it's a file that tells steam that even tho the folder name is wrong, that folder is legit 100% the game it says it is

pretty complex script and code too, ngl

[compact sedge]

it's not telling steam the game is legit it's telling steam which game it is.

[solemn rivet]

ye

[cunning lagoon]

367520

[compact sedge]

so like if you installed Hollow Knight to steamapps/Celeste but put that file there it won't try looking for Celeste.exe

[solemn rivet]

that's what I meant

the file is telling steam that even if the folder name is different, the game is actually what the file says

"that folder is legit 100% the game it says it is" that second "it" was "the file" not "the folder"

sorry for the confusion

[compact sedge]

anyway if you delete every file in the HK folder and verify integrity the end result should be the minimum set of files every steam user has.

[cunning lagoon]

[solemn rivet]

not necessarily

if you do that, you get the steam_api.dll

but 753 doesn't have it

[buoyant obsidian]

but how will the minimum set help you

[solemn rivet]

neither does mick

[compact sedge]

753 and mick pirates confirmed

/s

[solemn rivet]

I agree

100% unfalsifiable test

[compact sedge]

what if they deleted everything and verified

[solemn rivet]

idk what then

[static cloak]

i always knew mick was a pirate tbh

[cunning lagoon]

[static cloak]

im sorry but i need to share this

[cunning lagoon]

light theme

[static cloak]

reddit

[cunning lagoon]

install RES

[static cloak]

dark theme on reddit doesn't fit well

RES lags the fuck out of it

[buoyant obsidian]

dark themes are overrated

[cunning lagoon]

you are overrated

[static cloak]

he is underrated for me

he is that precious

[cunning lagoon]

you are precious

[copper nacelle]

@solemn rivet galaxy.dll won't exist on gog if you don't use Galaxy

e.g if you're on Linux

[compact sedge]

e.g if you consider galaxy DRM and are using GoG to avoid DRM in the first place

[cunning lagoon]

@solemn rivet https://youtu.be/54Kpy5msiLs explain

wow thumbnail fucking spoiling everything

[static cloak]

is that 2 life bars

[copper nacelle]

over 200 hp

and no death effect

= boss

[static cloak]

endgame boss

is it true radiance?

[copper nacelle]

[cunning lagoon]

they are clearly harder than anything else in the pop

so they must be a boss

the healthbar only shows up if you enter the room through the secret area

[static cloak]

a secret endgame boss

[cunning lagoon]

remember when i told you the manual hazard respawn in debug didnt work

i lied

it works

actually no it goes away

so it doesnt really work

so i didnt lie

[hazy sentinel]

but u lied about lying so u still lied

[cunning lagoon]

https://i.imgur.com/9QoZCEl.mp4

this game makes 0 sense

[compact sedge]

how does this happen?

and what does it mean

[cunning lagoon]

wtf the map is surrounded by spikes

this makes absolutely no sense

[compact sedge]

is this lore

[tranquil glen]

yeah they just use that as the falling oob hazard

[hollow pier]

that's how you get oob with invuln

[cunning lagoon]

[tranquil glen]

its in a bunch of places

for example the new gorb arena i'm pretty sure

one of the new dream boss arenas anyway

[cunning lagoon]

its not even consistent

there are no spikes in the previous room

[hollow pier]

ur mum

[cunning lagoon]

no yours

[finite thistle]

this game has very good hazards

[static cloak]

that looks so adorable for some reason

[hollow pier]

also why do thorns in hog/panths make blobs

[cunning lagoon]

hold on

let me find it

https://i.imgur.com/G33aLvQ.gifv

[finite thistle]

very very good hit detection

[static cloak]

i hate those things

[compact sedge]

oh I think monomod hooks requires public functions

[cunning lagoon]

also @hollow pier the first room cycle is the same in 1424

[hollow pier]

yes i know

[cunning lagoon]

ok

can you hardcode these guys to not have a healthbar or something please

[hollow pier]

why do you even have hpbar in pop

[cunning lagoon]

too lazy to disable

[hollow pier]

it's like one drag

[cunning lagoon]

exactly

fr tho wtf

[hollow pier]

good

[compact sedge]

nice

[cunning lagoon]

@copper nacelle save me

[hollow pier]

have that in your wr vid

[cunning lagoon]

[compact sedge]

Has anyone ever gotten TypeLoadException with monomod hooks and know why?

[copper nacelle]

@compact sedge target 3.5

[compact sedge]

@floral furnace wow thanks a lot

4.6.1

hey 56 how do you make the enemy sprite flash after hitting them?

[static cloak]

you know the boss fight is going to be hard

when you his health bar fills half of the screen

[copper nacelle]

sprite flash component

probably

[compact sedge]

also how do I actually get a ref to a private object with reflection?

[copper nacelle]

same as just getting things w/ reflection afaik

x.gettype().GetField(stuff, flags).getvalue(thing)

[compact sedge]

so like this??????

[copper nacelle]

yeah

if you have modcommon reffed use the extension method

which caches field infos

[compact sedge]

what's it called

[copper nacelle]

eeeeee begone

.GetAttr and .SetAttr

[compact sedge]

haha it works

wow

[copper nacelle]

haha yes

now all I have to do is wait for my new switches to come in

then I can desolder the LEDs, pop out the switches, and then replace them

[compact sedge]

so like this then?

[copper nacelle]

ye

i need to add extensions for static attributes when you don't have an instance

there's also a private method invoke extension but I can't remember the name

it uses monomod's fast delegate thing

might be .InvokeMethod

GetMethodInfo is another extension

also caches

params makes it so all the args you pass after the required and maybe optional? args all go into the array

it's neat

[cunning lagoon]

if i were to fight the mantis lords in godhome would that be the mantis gods fight if i have the mod

with the same hp and all of that

not sisters of battle ofc

@copper nacelle ping

nvm

[compact sedge]

@floral furnace Exist!

If you can

oh you went to bed at a normal time

Good for you!!!

https://github.com/TTacco/Hollow-Point/pull/1

[copper nacelle]

@cunning lagoon yeah

the way it works rn is it just checks if mantis lords exist in wherever you are

which is something i'm planning on changing so that you can have an option in godhome to battle them separate from lords

ur mum ech

i tried waiting a few frames

[compact sedge]

I bet it checks every frame if they exist too

[copper nacelle]

yes

starts w/ the first one and if it doesn't returns

[compact sedge]

well anyway

I'm not one who can talk

I stopped giving a shit about writing good or fast code about 5 hours into starting Infinite Grimm

[copper nacelle]

you couldn't wait a few frames for mantis lords on earlier patches otherwise i would have done that

[cunning lagoon]

[copper nacelle]

cause the go(s) become active after you "Challenge" them

at this point i should probably change it

i'll probably do it when i swap to godhome

[compact sedge]

just do the very unhacky and clean solution of waiting exactly 4 frames

[copper nacelle]

you have to wait till the player hits challenge tho

[compact sedge]

in godhome I mean

[copper nacelle]

oh i might do that tbh

better than checking every frame

[compact sedge]

(best I can tell the boss GOs spawn after 2 frames and their FSMvars are instantiated after 3)

[copper nacelle]

wtf

[compact sedge]

well they don't spawn right away

or at least they aren't active right away

waitasecond

Start on a monobehavior can be a coroutine

wtf

TIL

[copper nacelle]

wait what

really?

[compact sedge]

Look at BossSceneController

[copper nacelle]

what have i been doing with my life

[compact sedge]

this um... changes some things with regards to my coroutines

[copper nacelle]

[buoyant obsidian]

what does this mean

I'm slow

[compact sedge]

I'd say it changes everything but I'd be lying. it does let me condense some of my redwing code

[copper nacelle]

coroutines lets you do things like

wait a frame

or wait a second/seconds/whatever

[buoyant obsidian]

what's yield return mean anyway

[copper nacelle]

yield return is for ienumerators

for generators

like

[compact sedge]

it basically pauses the function for a given amount of time or until something happens

and then it resumes right after that yield line

[copper nacelle]

IEnumerator Counting()
{
    for(int i = 0; i < 1000; i++)
        yield return i;
}

for coroutines it lets you give YieldInstructions

[compact sedge]

well there's that too but in the context of coroutines what 56 said

[copper nacelle]

YieldInstructions tell Unity to wait for some time

[compact sedge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/327461802311155714/486400143881535498/unknown.png this will print Start1, wait 2.5 seconds, and print Start2

[copper nacelle]

so what this means is you can just have waiting for a frame in the start of your components

nothing major but it's convenient

you could've just done

void Start => StartCoroutine(Start());
IEnumerator Start()
{
    // stuff
    yield break;
}

yield break is the equivalent of return btw

[compact sedge]

Also there's fixed coroutines that run basically 50 times a second on average on non super laggy systems

[copper nacelle]

they're for physics

[compact sedge]

so if you need something like physics that you don't want to be slightly messed up by framerates you can use those

Here's an example use for an object that fades from totally visible to half invisible over a certain period of time:

        private IEnumerator fadeBallOverTime()
        {
            Color c = ballSprite.color;
            for (float time = 0f; time < lifespan; time += Time.deltaTime)
            {
                c.a = ( (timeBeforeDeath * 2f) - time) / timeBeforeDeath;
                ballSprite.color = c;
                yield return null;
            }
        }

[copper nacelle]

they're also great for waiting for stuff to not be null

            while (GameManager.instance == null ||
                   GameManager.instance.soulOrb_fsm == null ||
                   GameManager.instance.soulVessel_fsm == null ||
                   GameCameras.instance.soulOrbFSM == null ||
                   GameCameras.instance.soulVesselFSM == null ||
                   GameObject.Find("Health 11") == null)
            {
                yield return null;
            }

fuck ui

[compact sedge]

oh yeah

I do that with the literal knight itself

[copper nacelle]

nice

[compact sedge]

fyi yield return null; just waits 1 frame

[copper nacelle]

https://answers.unity.com/storage/temp/29674-order.png

if you're curious about the order unity runs things

[compact sedge]

(and ofc the ctor is called before all of this)

but that should go without saying

[compact sedge]

what if in HK 1.5 all sprites will be serialized with Unity's www

and all fsms too

[copper nacelle]

delet this

[floral furnace]

@compact sedge im so sorry angle i had classes and my internet keeps fucking dying (also ive merged the changes already, i just saw it now)

[copper nacelle]

aa online + you offline => aa offline + you online

is this loss

[rain cedar]

yes

[copper nacelle]

nice

[rain cedar]

nice

[copper nacelle]

@cunning lagoon meme

[cunning lagoon]

6:30 am

ybham sleep

[copper nacelle]

u

I already slept

for like an hour

[cunning lagoon]

fair enough

wow an hour

how are you gonna learn cool things at school if you are sleep deprived

[copper nacelle]

no need to learn

there's 2 quizzes today

and pe is my first class

[cunning lagoon]

i hope you get like

whats the best letter

S

[copper nacelle]

A

[cunning lagoon]

ok yyou better get As in everything

[copper nacelle]

ok

[floral furnace]

A

dont you mean

🇭

[copper nacelle]

[cunning lagoon]

get 🅱 in everything

[copper nacelle]

you ever just

sig figs

also the metric system

[cunning lagoon]

yes

use meters

[floral furnace]

memeters

[cunning lagoon]

they are the superior system

[copper nacelle]

i only measure in picometers thanks

[rain cedar]

Metric is easy just 10

[copper nacelle]

yes

we might need to memorize derived units but effort

so I didn't

[river eagle]

tbh just measure everything in plancks

[void tree]

are we talking, like, two-by-fours or something?

[copper nacelle]

chem quiz

[rain cedar]

8 meters is 4.95034188299e+35 plancks

[void tree]

that's a lot of two-by-fours

[river eagle]

Two by fours

[ancient tapir]

Is there a new update for the randomizer mod yet?

[hollow pier]

press f1

[cunning lagoon]

[ancient tapir]

Thanks, I'm gonna ask there

[floral furnace]

ptk wheres the blue

[cunning lagoon]

my guy blue doenst exist anymore

[hollow pier]

they remade speedrunner

[cunning lagoon]

it's all white now

[floral furnace]

uhhh WAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

[hollow pier]

I'll choose a white poke now because mudkip looks bad

[floral furnace]

tbf im not used to seeing dlk with the blue name cuz it clashes with red pfp

[cunning lagoon]

excadrill didnt look good with the blue name either

[hollow pier]

it never looked good

[cunning lagoon]

may i suggest togekiss

or is it too gay maybe

[hollow pier]

you ever serene grace

[cunning lagoon]

[copper nacelle]

the red one

the rolly polly

imo

[floral furnace]

"Cannot pull because there are uncommitted changes. Commit, stash, or undo your changes before retrying. See the Output window for details."

but why

[hollow pier]

it's more of a puce thanks

[cunning lagoon]

the rolly polly

scolipede?

[floral furnace]

just get digimon instead imo

much better

[cunning lagoon]

pokemon is better tbh

dont lie to yourself

[copper nacelle]

commit

[floral furnace]

wrongo

[copper nacelle]

or stash

before pulling

[cunning lagoon]

arrays start at 1

oops i win again

[copper nacelle]

[floral furnace]

arrays using 1 as their index is omega lame

[hollow pier]

digimon big trash

[cunning lagoon]

^

[floral furnace]

doing something like for(int x = 1;)
is already a sin

but pokemon is bigger trash

[hollow pier]

you know it's trash when my phone corrects digimon to something else and correctly does Pokemon

[floral furnace]

literally paid by nintendo

[hollow pier]

digimon big grassroots apparently

[cunning lagoon]

Gradow

[hollow pier]

Gradow!

[floral furnace]

Gradow 😩

[solemn rivet]

PTKYR = Pokemon Trainer Kill Your SRelf

[cunning lagoon]

Gradow 🍆 💦

[hollow pier]

Gradaddy 💦

[floral furnace]

GradOwO

they started it

Oh yeah fuck i forgot AA modified a different branch than what i did that i didnt commit

[copper nacelle]

@floral furnace for(;;)

[floral furnace]

will that actually compile

[copper nacelle]

yes

[floral furnace]

[solemn rivet]

Sadly it will

[hollow pier]

when is the modder reform to all white so aa isn't left out

[cunning lagoon]

make everyone green

[river eagle]

woah

sounds like a great idea

[floral furnace]

yes do it for moderators too while youre at it

fuck why didnt i commit first before aa forked

[solemn rivet]

Tbf if we had a 'mods of the modding channel' and a 'modders' role, AA could be green

[copper nacelle]

it's a while true loop btw

[floral furnace]

echhh

[river eagle]

well you can always get a black name by using light mode

[floral furnace]

seperate the pleb modders 😩

so wait itll loop forever 5?6

[cunning lagoon]

wow its true

[exotic venture]

death

[cunning lagoon]

im black now bois

[hollow pier]

well we could always have a mods of the lore channel and lorers

[floral furnace]

nice

[solemn rivet]

Cursed pic

[exotic venture]

lore was a mistake tho

[floral furnace]

yeah and we have moderator and moderator moderators

[solemn rivet]

Ptk gets me

[floral furnace]

who mods the mods

[hollow pier]

admin

[solemn rivet]

Someone screen cap mys

[floral furnace]

yeah but who admins the admins

[solemn rivet]

👀

[river eagle]

hollow knight lore indeed was a mistake

[floral furnace]

check mate

[hollow pier]

common sense

[copper nacelle]

@floral furnace yeah

for(;;)

is just while(true)

[floral furnace]

for(;;){
log("fuck bees"); will print it out forever then
}

[copper nacelle]

yes

[floral furnace]

wow gj 56 when will microsoft remove the while loop this is revolutionary

oh wait while doesnt excute once nvm

[copper nacelle]

neither does this tho

do {} for

stay woke

[floral furnace]

🤔

can this be considered a bug or a feature

[cunning lagoon]

yea

[floral furnace]

so do i now have to roll back from the commit before i can pull

[copper nacelle]

no

just commit then pull?

[floral furnace]

cuz branch1 is the main right, but i modified it but didnt commit, aa however forked from the branch1 did his changes, and now i accepted the pull request

[copper nacelle]

commit now

[floral furnace]

good enough for me

[copper nacelle]

then pull

might get a merge error

[copper nacelle]

you can also reset hard

[floral furnace]

oh yeah i just pulled it

[copper nacelle]

poggers

[floral furnace]

yeah i got the merge conflict

[cunning lagoon]

the hunter must be the offspring of thk and herrah

[copper nacelle]

[cunning lagoon]

can't say that there or i get banned

[river eagle]

hmmmm

[cunning lagoon]

[copper nacelle]

#hk-lore is a mistake

[floral furnace]

you cant spell "hunter" without "hollow knight has no lore ue"

[copper nacelle]

;lore

cur ree

[hollow pier]

k-uh-ree

[floral furnace]

cur 😩

do i just tick the boxes

haha nevermind take remote saves the die

im not correcting that

[cunning lagoon]

[floral furnace]

@compact sedge also i might remove read only next time since it should be modifiable depending on charms

[cunning lagoon]

ok

[solemn rivet]

ttacco don't you have git bash?

[cunning lagoon]

gradow wingmoulds not having healthbars when

[solemn rivet]

yeah, I saw that

[floral furnace]

well i do... but i use the VS-Github pluggin instead

dont kill me pls

[solemn rivet]

I'd never have guessed they were the final boss

[cunning lagoon]

they truly are

[floral furnace]

what if the radiance fired wingsmould instead of orbs 🤔

[solemn rivet]

ttacco there's no need for a plugin tho, vs handles git pretty well by its own

[floral furnace]

well i fell into the beginner trap yes

but ill use bash next time