archived-modding-development

[cunning lagoon]

no

[copper nacelle]

oh are you always above or equal to 144 fps

if you aren't that'll cause tearing i think

[static cloak]

it will

[cunning lagoon]

yeah

[young walrus]

git gud.... monitor

[static cloak]

just use vsync

[cunning lagoon]

no

[static cloak]

whats the issue

[rain cedar]

Git gud hundo run

[young walrus]

vsync is the issue

[copper nacelle]

vsync in hk causes input delay

ech

[static cloak]

nevermind

fuck that

you can try to make a fps lock manually

[rain cedar]

Low framerate causes delay

144 vsync would be fine

[static cloak]

"low"

low as in 30

[copper nacelle]

144 too low

[young walrus]

low as in 60

or 120

[static cloak]

LOL

[compact sedge]

pfft I only play at 999 fps

[young walrus]

this game is shit code

[rain cedar]

144 is low in this context tbh

[young walrus]

^

[hollow pier]

nsoob is low

[rain cedar]

It doesn't have delay but fast inputs don't register sometimes

[compact sedge]

human eye can't see more than 4 fps anyway

[static cloak]

this is super overwhelming

christ

[cunning lagoon]

press f1

[young walrus]

then forget f1

[copper nacelle]

ree

[young walrus]

then complain

[copper nacelle]

this is why you use the gui

so it stays for 7 seconds

reminding you to press f1

[static cloak]

im literally on fire

i was not expecting that

[compact sedge]

hmmm

[cunning lagoon]

yes

[compact sedge]

ur 🔥

[static cloak]

that doesn't sound healthy

[copper nacelle]

try jumping into water

[young walrus]

should call the fire department tbh

don't tell us

[compact sedge]

yes set the water on steam

[static cloak]

bugs are weak to fire

[compact sedge]

o ye they are

[static cloak]

according to pokemon logic a water stab would OHKO me

[copper nacelle]

aa secretly killing all mod users

[compact sedge]

the vessel isn't a bug

[static cloak]

its a bug type

[compact sedge]

bug/fire

[static cloak]

volcarona?

[copper nacelle]

@cunning lagoon 🅱ug fixed

[cunning lagoon]

very weak to stealth rocks

[static cloak]

where is my quiver dance

[cunning lagoon]

nice

[compact sedge]

quiver dance is dash button

[static cloak]

bug buzz is special attack

hidden power flying I assume

[young walrus]

you must be friends with ouro

[compact sedge]

I just realized I could take a page out of 753's book

[static cloak]

do I need to be on fire 24/7

[compact sedge]

uh you won't if you take damage

[static cloak]

ah, the perfect mechanic for me

thanks ching

[compact sedge]

hey 753 am I shilling correctly?

[static cloak]

half of the people that have a blue name

we either have tons of speedrunners

[cunning lagoon]

80% of blue names are not speedrunners

[static cloak]

or a lot of people that like blue enough to the point of lying

[compact sedge]

believe it or not the people with blue names in this channel except numbers guy are actual speedrunners

[static cloak]

thought as much

[compact sedge]

yes even verulean

[static cloak]

dude

[compact sedge]

actually verulean's done longer speedruns than anyone else here

[static cloak]

i have like 20 frames on hollow

this is not normal

[cunning lagoon]

that must mean he's bad right

[compact sedge]

uhhh yikes

what ur specs

and what mods

[hazy sentinel]

will it blend

[rain cedar]

?rank speedrunner

[autumn shard]

@rain cedar, you joined Speedrunner.

[cunning lagoon]

[copper nacelle]

wow nice none of mine

[cunning lagoon]

enemy rando

[copper nacelle]

i'm safe

[hazy sentinel]

btw totally not spellchecking RedwingLoreSheet.csv

[compact sedge]

PlayerDataDump lags game possibly idk?

it has 0 spelling errors don't worry

[hazy sentinel]

got hella grammar tho

[static cloak]

there...

there is a hollow dab

cursed

[copper nacelle]

[static cloak]

20 frames

christ

[cunning lagoon]

enemy rando kills frames if i am not mistaken

[compact sedge]

if it's not playerdatadump idk what it would be idk what mod that's even from tbh

[buoyant obsidian]

is that fire effect from Redwing?

[compact sedge]

yes

[hazy sentinel]

haHAA

[static cloak]

thanks guys

i have 2 more frames

[buoyant obsidian]

can I steal it

also what's it do

[compact sedge]

it's a shield and all my source code is online

[buoyant obsidian]

I wanna nab the fire for a Lightbringer charm

[compact sedge]

I'm gonna nab your spears if ur not careful

[buoyant obsidian]

what's the shield conditions?

[copper nacelle]

[buoyant obsidian]

no please

don't nab grubberyfly's elegy

[copper nacelle]

reskinned elegy

get it right smh

[compact sedge]

https://github.com/natis1/redwing/blob/master/redwing/redwing_hooks.cs consider reading code?

[buoyant obsidian]

The reskin makes it really nice

[copper nacelle]

the reskin makes it feel 300% more polished tbh

[cunning lagoon]

whats the current wr for white palace

[static cloak]

blur quality drops your frames to the gutter

[copper nacelle]

i don't think anyone's submitted an nmg il

[static cloak]

from 19 to 85 frames

[cunning lagoon]

[compact sedge]

oh is that it? I always play on low

[static cloak]

what the fuck?

[compact sedge]

does redwing attacks blurring screw something up

huh

good to know

[cunning lagoon]

some dude did it in 4:57

fucking trash

[copper nacelle]

is that sean's nsoob one

[buoyant obsidian]

So the shield is just every so often it'll nullify a hit?

[cunning lagoon]

no

whats the fastest version for wp

[copper nacelle]

idk

[compact sedge]

yes

[cunning lagoon]

1221?

[compact sedge]

and play an animation

[copper nacelle]

ask monstah and skurry what their golds are

they have fast WPs iirc

[compact sedge]

also GM health binding disables it

[cunning lagoon]

actually TE runners go through wp right

what's the best gold someone has on white palace

[copper nacelle]

skurry runs TE

really makes u think

[static cloak]

question

nevermind

thanks

[copper nacelle]

monstah ran 106 and runs 112

skurry runs te and ran any%

i think

[cunning lagoon]

ah wp is trash anyway

[young walrus]

best WP run is about 2:38

[cunning lagoon]

ill just get sub 2:20 pop

[copper nacelle]

skurry's white palace gold is around 5:20

[cunning lagoon]

really

[copper nacelle]

he said he'd have to check but that's around what it is

[cunning lagoon]

thats kinda bad

[compact sedge]

also sorry 753 that my code's really messy @buoyant obsidian

[cunning lagoon]

do people just dont care about wp

sad

[hazy sentinel]

do they don't

[cunning lagoon]

oops

[copper nacelle]

106 runners have better golds apparently

cause faster guards

[cunning lagoon]

what would be the correct way to say that

[copper nacelle]

and a dive skip

[cunning lagoon]

"do people just not care about wp"?

[copper nacelle]

ye

[cunning lagoon]

ok

[copper nacelle]

also skurry splits from seer

seer => end of white palace

[cunning lagoon]

ahh that makes sense yeah

[buoyant obsidian]

yeah if you don't mind I'll be stealing that shield

what charm is it? Does Redwing even use charms?

[copper nacelle]

stay woke

[cunning lagoon]

i thought it was first wp loading screen -> end of wp

[hazy sentinel]

wp split from save creation to end of wp

[cunning lagoon]

nice ill check it out

maybe

nah i wont

fuck wp

[compact sedge]

no. I didn't wanna touch charms for the simple reason that everyone else was and I want 100% compatibility @buoyant obsidian

[cunning lagoon]

ill just make eldergod hu

[buoyant obsidian]

smart

[cunning lagoon]

or will i

[compact sedge]

although that's not 100% true, I make the nail arts charm cost 3 because nail arts with redwing are actually broken

[hazy sentinel]

bamboozled

[cunning lagoon]

idk what to do at the atm the moment

[copper nacelle]

eldergod hu

[cunning lagoon]

yes ill do that

thank you

[copper nacelle]

haha yes

[cunning lagoon]

HAHA YES

[compact sedge]

infinite endergod hu

[hazy sentinel]

u mean at the atm the moment machine

[static cloak]

third time my game crashes

sigh

[solemn rivet]

edgelord hu

[hazy sentinel]

edgegod

[compact sedge]

send modlog

and unity log

[static cloak]

nah, its divinity sin 2 fucking with me

not hollow

even when closes it sucks my ram off

really hard

[cunning lagoon]

what were the 2 level files that i had to open

fiftysix

[hazy sentinel]

1

2

[cunning lagoon]

O.K.

[copper nacelle]

194 and 434

[cunning lagoon]

ok

thank

[copper nacelle]

yw

[hazy sentinel]

I was close

[cunning lagoon]

ah now i remember why i gave up

how does this work

[copper nacelle]

what part

[cunning lagoon]

what am i su`pposed to do

[hazy sentinel]

loading the levels

[static cloak]

can I get a modder role for putting a comment on a readme file

[copper nacelle]

launch the fsm viewer

[cunning lagoon]

this is where i am rn

[compact sedge]

no and you can't get one for making the most mods or the largest mods either

or for contributing to the modding api

[copper nacelle]

ok so then you make a project in VS

[cunning lagoon]

ok do i open the dnspy thing in vs?

[copper nacelle]

no

[cunning lagoon]

or only vs

ok

[copper nacelle]

just vs

dnSpy is how you see the game's code

[cunning lagoon]

ah i see

the hacker tools

[static cloak]

"art mods"

reminds me of the "bot mods" of another server

[hazy sentinel]

art gallery deleters

[static cloak]

their job was basically spamming a slot machine to check if the bot was online

[cunning lagoon]

which one do i make

[compact sedge]

well not WPF app that's for sure

[copper nacelle]

Class Library (.NET Framework) i think

[cunning lagoon]

haha yes

ok

[compact sedge]

target 3.5

[copper nacelle]

the one which says .dll on the right

[static cloak]

damn

[cunning lagoon]

yeah that one

which framework do i use

[static cloak]

is there a mod that puts markers on the masks pieces and shit

would be so handy

[copper nacelle]

no

[static cloak]

god damn it

[cunning lagoon]

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/937186534572002861/C2B665B18C4B8EC4D429D02FD53C2DAD358A8F86/

[hazy sentinel]

it's called playing the game

[compact sedge]

wow did you make that mod dl

[cunning lagoon]

SPOILER ALERT!!

[compact sedge]

you should be given the modder role

[cunning lagoon]

yeah it took me 5 minutes

[static cloak]

you say that but more than half of us used that map

at some point

[cunning lagoon]

your brain is the best map for the mask locations

[hollow pier]

i've never seen this map in my life

[cunning lagoon]

ybham which framewqork do i use

[hazy sentinel]

my first playthrough ended w/ 100% before the map existed

[copper nacelle]

.NET 3.5

[cunning lagoon]

ok

[copper nacelle]

doesn't come w/ vs tho

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=21

[cunning lagoon]

i have it

i dunno why

[copper nacelle]

nice

[cunning lagoon]

do i give it a fancy name

like Elder Hu

[hazy sentinel]

class Gay

[copper nacelle]

whatever you want

[solemn rivet]

Elder Who

[cunning lagoon]

ok it has been created

[compact cove]

How is this in dot net; is the developer SDK (i.e. the framework) the same as the runtime (i.e. the runtime always also includes the sdk)?

[cunning lagoon]

when do i get my green name

[solemn rivet]

when you rename Class1

and the cs file

[cunning lagoon]

yes i will do that

[solemn rivet]

what do you intend to do DLK

[copper nacelle]

elder hu but not trash

[cunning lagoon]

elder hu

[static cloak]

first enemy is this shit

you fucking with me

[cunning lagoon]

wtf

why do you play like that

who hurt you

[solemn rivet]

also

disable enemy rando

it's not 100% GM compatible

[static cloak]

good to know

[solemn rivet]

it will only randomize enemies pre-GM

[copper nacelle]

isn't that fine

tho

[cunning lagoon]

you have 7 unread pings

[solemn rivet]

I mean

[static cloak]

and a giant ass bug enemy

[cunning lagoon]

please check them

[solemn rivet]

sure

[static cloak]

as my first thing

the 7 pings are from people making space ninja dogs babies

[cunning lagoon]

more reason to check them

[copper nacelle]

mark them as read at least

[static cloak]

warframe people are weird

[compact sedge]

(when your mod doesn't work because you forgot to make your ctor public)

[solemn rivet]

also why do you have a server with shinobu as the server icon

[static cloak]

i

uh

I can explain

[cunning lagoon]

wow i clicked the run button and it gave me 0 errors

is my mod perfect

[copper nacelle]

yes

[solemn rivet]

we don't take kindly to weebs here

[static cloak]

its uhhh

[solemn rivet]

[static cloak]

monogatari server

[solemn rivet]

shush

u saw nothing dlk

[cunning lagoon]

🤐

[solemn rivet]

[cunning lagoon]

[static cloak]

i regret checking the pings

[solemn rivet]

that's better

[static cloak]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/356461574124339200/485554539445878802/oof.png

[solemn rivet]

why do you regret tho

this is beautiful

idk what u talking about

[cunning lagoon]

is that loki prime

[static cloak]

i can't breath

[copper nacelle]

looks good to me

[hollow pier]

does kuro play warframe

[cunning lagoon]

that's literally the only thing i remember about warframe

also frost and his broken ass shield

[hollow pier]

wow he plays every game huh

[static cloak]

i remember grinneer spamming

tenno skum

[hollow pier]

but have you played ian's adventure

[cunning lagoon]

yes i have played every single game in existence

except ian's adventure

you got me

[solemn rivet]

day: since you like to call AA ching, what do you call 56 and ptkyr?

[hollow pier]

exposed

[static cloak]

56 and portuguese kyurem

[hollow pier]

yeah that's what it means

[cunning lagoon]

[copper nacelle]

woke

[cunning lagoon]

Gradow!

[compact sedge]

Gradow!

[copper nacelle]

Gradow!

[hollow pier]

Gradow!

[solemn rivet]

Gradow!

[static cloak]

Gradow!

[copper nacelle]

wtf

[static cloak]

do I unlock any attacks from the start on redwing

[cunning lagoon]

i think it also checks for gradow without exclamation mark

[solemn rivet]

only if you shout Gradow!

[static cloak]

Gradow!

👀

no really do I?

[cunning lagoon]

you have a dash

also updash

[static cloak]

nani

[solemn rivet]

I feel violated rn

[cunning lagoon]

wdym nani

no weeb slang here please

[static cloak]

i cant dash

[solemn rivet]

baklava booptis m8

[cunning lagoon]

you should be able to

[static cloak]

yeah I can't

[solemn rivet]

k

rip

[cunning lagoon]

i know for a fact you dont need the mothwing cloak to dash but maybe theres a different trigger for it

[static cloak]

new save I guess

[solemn rivet]

it shouldn't, dlk

if it implements its own version of blackmoth, it should give you dash from the get-go

[static cloak]

how 2 skip cutscenes

[cunning lagoon]

yeah i thought it was unlocked from the start

[solemn rivet]

qol mod

[compact sedge]

and miss out on valuable lore?

[copper nacelle]

i wonder how many more downloads qol has than my other mods

[cunning lagoon]

how do i progress

[compact sedge]

quite a few but only because you never made a cheat mod best I can tell

[static cloak]

I feel like im being trolled

[copper nacelle]

add a reference to Assembly-CSharp, UnityEngine, and UnityEngine.CoreModule

[static cloak]

you people are sure I can dash with redwings?

[solemn rivet]

and copy 56's lost lord

[copper nacelle]

accurate

[compact sedge]

have you tried pressing the dash button?

[cunning lagoon]

ok

[solemn rivet]

not even kidding tbh

best way to start is to take functional code and tear it apart

[compact sedge]

copy 56's infinite uumuu

[static cloak]

R2 right

[compact sedge]

but make it not infinite

[copper nacelle]

hell mod was just me repeatedly modifying glass soul

[static cloak]

yeah I can't dash

[solemn rivet]

reinstall

[static cloak]

why me

[copper nacelle]

no u

[solemn rivet]

cause

you're

day

btw

[static cloak]

why the btw

[copper nacelle]

s/d/g

[solemn rivet]

do you have steam version?

[static cloak]

ofc

[solemn rivet]

uhh

[static cloak]

let me reinstall

[solemn rivet]

no, it's not "of course"

but, anyway

can you check something for me real quick?

[static cloak]

anything for you gradow

[solemn rivet]

don't talk to me like that daddy

so

can you check if you have a file named steam_api.dll in your Hollow Knight folder?

[static cloak]

thats basically asking me if my version is legit

[solemn rivet]

if you have, I'm gonna pass swift judgement upon 753

no

[cunning lagoon]

uh oh

[solemn rivet]

because apparently 753 doesn't have that file

[copper nacelle]

753 proved he bought it tho

[static cloak]

i know my files my man

[solemn rivet]

and I know his version is legit

[copper nacelle]

he showed his steam page w/ it bought

ye

[cunning lagoon]

ok i added the reference thing

i think

[copper nacelle]

show pic

ez

[solemn rivet]

m8, I know you have bought the game

[static cloak]

are people that pirate that common

[cunning lagoon]

yes

[copper nacelle]

yes

[solemn rivet]

yes

[static cloak]

that also mod?

[copper nacelle]

yes

[cunning lagoon]

yes

[static cloak]

what the fuck

[solemn rivet]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

but yeah

so you do have the file?

[static cloak]

will do so

let me create a new save

[cunning lagoon]

and we only notice those that come here

[solemn rivet]

yeah

it's not like game is expensive

[cunning lagoon]

so like whenever we tell them to verify game files the truth comes out

[solemn rivet]

or when the installer doesn't get their installation

[cunning lagoon]

[copper nacelle]

[static cloak]

"not pirated guys i swear"

"bugs"

[solemn rivet]

nah, they usually admit

[static cloak]

not on divinity sin 2 server

[solemn rivet]

and then berate us for refusing to help them further

[static cloak]

yikes I remember trying to help people with mods there

[solemn rivet]

some people smh

[static cloak]

"what do you mean I can't use mods on my pirated version"

like they are fucking entitled to it

god

[solemn rivet]

yup

welcome to #archived-modding-help

[static cloak]

can dash now

[solemn rivet]

that + "how do I unhide debug"

[copper nacelle]

never again

[static cloak]

how do I up dash tho

[solemn rivet]

56

[cunning lagoon]

hey guys has debug been updated for godmaster

[copper nacelle]

up and dash

[solemn rivet]

you do realize that the channel is now useless, right?

[static cloak]

doesn't work

[copper nacelle]

oh you need mothwing cloak for updash

iirc

[solemn rivet]

you removed the literal only reason that that channel exists

[static cloak]

was hovering the unistall button already

also the dash does a slash

whats the damage modifier on it

1.0?

[solemn rivet]

wut

wait

wait

what do you mean "the dash does a slash"?

[copper nacelle]

it does nail damage

when you go through grass

it looks like you slashed it

ez

[static cloak]

the dash one hits enemies

what

[solemn rivet]

it sounds like he's surprised that dashing actually hits enemies tho

maybe I'm mistaken

[copper nacelle]

🅱harp 🅱hadow

[static cloak]

im surprised at the dash doing this much damage

[cunning lagoon]

🅱radow!

[copper nacelle]

🅱radow!

[solemn rivet]

maybe AA upped the damage, idk

in blackmoth it does vanilla nail damage

[static cloak]

at least 1.5x damage

[solemn rivet]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

now, honestly

my favorite mod, by far

is randomizer

[static cloak]

now I can't dash

what

[cunning lagoon]

so do i just clone lost lord and change it to elder hu

[copper nacelle]

kinda

[static cloak]

something is fucked up

i can't dash now

[solemn rivet]

as soon as sean is done porting that (if ever) I'm gonna play that mofo like 56 fought rad markoth

[copper nacelle]

@cunning lagoon do

[rain cedar]

u

[cunning lagoon]

ok i will do

[static cloak]

is there are requirements for the dash?

i cant dash now

[copper nacelle]

public override Initalize()
{
            ModHooks.Instance.AfterSavegameLoadHook += AfterSaveGameLoad;
ModHooks.Instance.NewGameHook += AddComponent;
}

except indentation

[cunning lagoon]

inside public class Class1?

[solemn rivet]

day, send us the modlog

[copper nacelle]

yes

also rename class 1

to like

[solemn rivet]

it's a text file in the saves folder

[copper nacelle]

ur mod name

[cunning lagoon]

ok

[solemn rivet]

also

[copper nacelle]

        private static void AfterSaveGameLoad(SaveGameData data) => AddComponent();

        private static void AddComponent()
        {
            GameManager.instance.gameObject.AddComponent<HuFinder>();
}

[cunning lagoon]

shit am i gonna name it Eldergod Hu

[copper nacelle]

idk

you can always rename

[cunning lagoon]

hmm

[solemn rivet]

show me what mods you have installed

[cunning lagoon]

ok Eldergod Hu, Elder God or God Hu

you guys pick

[solemn rivet]

edgelord hu imo

[rain cedar]

Hugod elder

[solemn rivet]

Elder Who

[young walrus]

who?

[solemn rivet]

those were my previous suggestions

and I stand by them

[static cloak]

tag me once your read it

[cunning lagoon]

i kinda like Elder Who but i dont want it to be a meme name

[static cloak]

oh almighty gradow

[cunning lagoon]

but i also dont want to use god because its so lazy and overused

[solemn rivet]

if you don't want it to be memey, how about

[finite thistle]

eldest hu

[copper nacelle]

ancient hu

[solemn rivet]

instead of Elder Who why not Elder Who??

[cunning lagoon]

shit ancient hu sounds rad

[copper nacelle]

yeet

[solemn rivet]

@compact sedge [INFO]:[angleint] - modname is UNNAMED MOD PLEASE NAME [INFO]:[angleint] - modname is Angle Integrationis this u

[compact sedge]

yes

lol

[copper nacelle]

UNNAMED MOD PLEASE NAME

[solemn rivet]

[INFO]:[Redwing] Settings outdated! Rebuilding.```consistent captioning

[static cloak]

still cant dash

the fuck

new saves work fine

[solemn rivet]

[INFO]:[Redwing] Replacing blackmoth lore with redwing lore.

[static cloak]

then after a while they stop working

[compact sedge]

it doesn't even do anything to be tbh

anyway send player log

[solemn rivet]

nothing seems to be off in the modlog

[cunning lagoon]

ok so there's namespace and public class

[compact sedge]

I suspect there's a nre somewhere in greymoth

[cunning lagoon]

do i name them different things

or ancienthu both

[copper nacelle]

i'd do both but that's me

[static cloak]

im fucked then

big F

[solemn rivet]

day: go to hollow_knight_Data and send us output_log.txt

it's inside your Hollow Knight folder

[cunning lagoon]

ok

[static cloak]

I..

don't have it?

[solemn rivet]

close the game

[cunning lagoon]

what does "except indentation" mean

[solemn rivet]

you shouldn't really need to

but it's there for sure

[copper nacelle]

it means make the second line have the same spacing at the beginning as the first

[static cloak]

found the cause

[copper nacelle]

instead of randomly flying to the beginning

[solemn rivet]

the game always writes that file

[static cloak]

every time I reconnect the controller it stops working

is there a fix

[copper nacelle]

wow nice

[solemn rivet]

how many times do you reconnect your controller?

[cunning lagoon]

o ok

[static cloak]

too many

faulty wire

fix?

[cunning lagoon]

play kb

[solemn rivet]

uhhh

[copper nacelle]

buy a new wire

[solemn rivet]

^

^^

[static cloak]

fucking filthy heretic

disgusting

[cunning lagoon]

no but really if its a hardware issue theres not much we can do

[copper nacelle]

kb > controller

[solemn rivet]

buy a new controller?

[copper nacelle]

dab

[static cloak]

its the wire

not the controller

[copper nacelle]

oh btw

i got a new controller

[static cloak]

still the bug is annoying

: (

[copper nacelle]

H O R I

also it doesn't work w/ hk

large meme

[solemn rivet]

56 using controller

[copper nacelle]

not that i'd swap

[solemn rivet]

wtf is wrong with you

also it does

but not with the api

[copper nacelle]

got it so i could play mortal kombat w/ someone else

[solemn rivet]

remove the api

[cunning lagoon]

private static void AfterSaveGameLoad(SaveGameData data) => AddComponent();

        private static void AddComponent()
        {
            GameManager.instance.gameObject.AddComponent<HuFinder>();
}

[copper nacelle]

api not installed

[cunning lagoon]

where does this go

[copper nacelle]

in class1

[solemn rivet]

[static cloak]

I have to restart the game everytime I dc the controller

u serious

[cunning lagoon]

inside public override Initialize() or outside it

[solemn rivet]

enbale beta controller support, idk

[copper nacelle]

outside

[cunning lagoon]

ok

[solemn rivet]

day, it would make sense

[static cloak]

its a mod issue

[cunning lagoon]

is this right

[copper nacelle]

yeah

[cunning lagoon]

nice

[solemn rivet]

some games don't even recognize controller input if you plug the controller after the game is launched

[static cloak]

thing is

[copper nacelle]

put using Modding; at the top of the file

[cunning lagoon]

ok

[static cloak]

HK gets the correct input

[solemn rivet]

dlk: inherit from mod

[static cloak]

it still works perfectly fine

but the mod dash

[cunning lagoon]

no clue what that means

[solemn rivet]

replace "AncientHu" with "AncientHu : Mod"

[copper nacelle]

AncientHu: Mod

fuck

[cunning lagoon]

which one of the two AncientHu

[solemn rivet]

green

[copper nacelle]

the class

[cunning lagoon]

ok

[hazy sentinel]

.

[solemn rivet]

now the red squiggles should be gone thott

[cunning lagoon]

weow good virus Verulean

"Poem kinda jank"

the red squiggles are still there

[solemn rivet]

show

[copper nacelle]

show references

[solemn rivet]

add a reference to the api

[cunning lagoon]

ah yes i know how to do that

[solemn rivet]

you do? Or /s ?

[copper nacelle]

left sidebar

"References"

right click

add reference

iirc

[solemn rivet]

on vs it's right-side iirc

[cunning lagoon]

i did add the references

hold up

[solemn rivet]

k

[solemn rivet]

is that assembly the api?

[copper nacelle]

do you have the api installed

[cunning lagoon]

did i fuck up

what

[solemn rivet]

see that Assembly-Csharp.dll file?

[cunning lagoon]

yea

[solemn rivet]

is that the api?

or is it vanilla?

[cunning lagoon]

o shit it might be vanilla

im on 1428

oops

[solemn rivet]

that's where you're wrong kiddo

[copper nacelle]

that's why i have a references folder

[solemn rivet]

yeah

[copper nacelle]

so i can leave the api uninstalled and build

[cunning lagoon]

ok so

i opt out of the beta then install the api

[copper nacelle]

or make a references folder

imo

[solemn rivet]

nah

don't need to

download the api

and reference it

[copper nacelle]

^

[solemn rivet]

or do it like 56 said

[solemn rivet]

create a folder and put all refs there

nice

[cunning lagoon]

well i have to have the api anyway

to test it

right

[copper nacelle]

yeah

[solemn rivet]

yeah

[cunning lagoon]

ok how do i remove this assembly-csharp

to replace it

ok i did it

[static cloak]

the fire thing being a shield

is so broken

wtf

[copper nacelle]

wasn't redwing supposed to be easy mode at first

[solemn rivet]

^

[static cloak]

does redwing add interesting besides the dash and fire shield op stuff

[solemn rivet]

blackmoth is kinda balanced tbh

makes some things easier, but makes tons of stuff harder

[cunning lagoon]

your nail arts change

[solemn rivet]

oh yeah

[static cloak]

i mean i can do a hitless run without sweat lol

[cunning lagoon]

and you do cool things when you heal

[solemn rivet]

AA did that

no

don't heal

it's op

[static cloak]

i healed

[cunning lagoon]

it is indeed very op

[static cloak]

giant beam comes from the heaves

[solemn rivet]

and nukes everything

[static cloak]

how the heck can I make this harder

its so broken

[cunning lagoon]

ok so im trying to add the new assembly-csharp thing but its not showing up

[solemn rivet]

play it with hellmod

[static cloak]

what hellmod does

[solemn rivet]

remove the other one dlk

[cunning lagoon]

i did

[solemn rivet]

you can't have two identical refs

uhhh

[static cloak]

does it just duplicate everyone's health?

:<

[solemn rivet]

no

[cunning lagoon]

it just doesnt show up anymore

[copper nacelle]

add file

[solemn rivet]

56 has the full list

but it reduces your damage to shit

and your soul to shitter

[copper nacelle]

lemme list

## Effects
- 2.5 Nail Damage
- 2x incoming damage
- 1/3 max SOUL
- 1/2 SOUL collection
- no SOUL collection while your shade is alive
- Heal focus is nerfed to Deep Focus speed
- Deep focus multiplier increased by 1.3725
- Dream shield only costs 1 notch

[solemn rivet]

and you take 2x damage iirc?

[static cloak]

so basically I have to choose between broken and broke

that sucks

[solemn rivet]

no

you can play lots of other stuff

[copper nacelle]

wdym 2.5 nail damage is balanced

[solemn rivet]

we literally told you that redwing was easy mode

[static cloak]

I like redwing's fire stuff

i don't like how strong it is

[copper nacelle]

config file

[solemn rivet]

how do you even do 2.5 damage 56

[copper nacelle]

2 then 3 then 2 then 3

[solemn rivet]

[cunning lagoon]

[static cloak]

settings file

[solemn rivet]

dlk: what 56 said. Add file

[static cloak]

not the gem one right

[copper nacelle]

gem

what

Redwing.GlobalSettings.json or something

[cunning lagoon]

where is add file

[static cloak]

flamegen*

[solemn rivet]

just a sec, lemme open vs here

takes about 84 years

[static cloak]

this?

[copper nacelle]

yeah

[static cloak]

oh boy

[copper nacelle]

literally all the damage values are there

change what you'd like

[static cloak]

I will just install hellmode

sounds easier

[copper nacelle]

wtf

it censored my vs browse pic

[solemn rivet]

lewd

[copper nacelle]

please clyde

[solemn rivet]

ban imo

[cunning lagoon]

clyde pls

[static cloak]

also

what is the nail's base damage

[copper nacelle]

5 for nail0

[static cloak]

5?

[copper nacelle]

yeah

[cunning lagoon]

yeah thats what im doing

[solemn rivet]

56 trying to post lewd pics in my christian hk server

[static cloak]

and the damage gets gutted to 1 in blackmoth?

christ

[copper nacelle]

yes

so you have to use dash

it

's a dash mod afterall

[solemn rivet]

why do you even want to play blackmoth and hit shit with the nail?

just don't use the mod in that case

[copper nacelle]

have the nail shoot out the dash prefab

[static cloak]

was just asking because you said blackmoth made it balanced

[cunning lagoon]

it worked the first time but after deleting the thing it just doesnt show up anymore

[solemn rivet]

it is balanced

[copper nacelle]

wdym

[solemn rivet]

imagine trying to beat FK with dash only

[copper nacelle]

like the file doesn't show up in browse?

or when you select it it just doesn't go in

[cunning lagoon]

when i select iut it doesnt go in

[copper nacelle]

oh

[solemn rivet]

restart

[copper nacelle]

^

[cunning lagoon]

i removed all 3 files and now none of them work

[copper nacelle]

restart vs

[cunning lagoon]

i restarted

[copper nacelle]

[solemn rivet]

restart life

[static cloak]

balanced in a way that guts the playstyle

pretty sure I can edit hardmode right

[solemn rivet]

wut

[copper nacelle]

it's supposed to change your playstyle

that's like

the point

[solemn rivet]

I'm baffled rn

[static cloak]

i know i know, I just really like redwing's concept

but the only way to balance it is by use blackmoth

[copper nacelle]

redwing makes your nail damage normal tho

[compact sedge]

you can edit the damages on all attacks in redwing lol

and yeah

[cunning lagoon]

its on project -> add reference right

[compact sedge]

by default it does that

[copper nacelle]

ye dlkurosh

[solemn rivet]

and it "guts the playstyle" even harder than blackmoth does

[copper nacelle]

also aa i told them that

[static cloak]

how so

[cunning lagoon]

yea i dontget it then

it should work

[solemn rivet]

m8 you're doing damage by shooting fire lazorz from the heavens

[copper nacelle]

i guess you could edit the csproj

[solemn rivet]

and spawning fire balls that explode on contact

[copper nacelle]

so first go to add reference

and re-check unityengine

unless that's gone

[static cloak]

"Nail upgrades have been removed"

[copper nacelle]

in which case add PlayMaker

[solemn rivet]

how is that in the playstyle of hk?

[static cloak]

nevermind im editing redwing

any recommended values?

[cunning lagoon]

where is UnityEngine

[copper nacelle]

same folder as assembly-csharp

[cunning lagoon]

ok i added playmaker

that one worked

[solemn rivet]

idk day, not many people edit the settings tbh

[copper nacelle]

ok so

you have the api installed now right

or no

[cunning lagoon]

yeah

let me double check

[solemn rivet]

install it harder

[static cloak]

pillar base damage is 15

what

[copper nacelle]

healing is good

[solemn rivet]

healing is op

[static cloak]

healing deals more damage than attacking

the fuck

[cunning lagoon]

API is indeed installed

[copper nacelle]

ok cool

[solemn rivet]

that's the point of the mod, day

[copper nacelle]

go to where ancient hu is located

and open the .csproj in like notepad++ or something

or just send it here and i'll fix it if you want

cause your vs is being weird

[solemn rivet]

vs is weird 99% of the time

[cunning lagoon]

is it like

[compact sedge]

healing doing damage when you're actually healing will be fixed eventually but I'm lazy

[solemn rivet]

the other 1% it's loading

[cunning lagoon]

user folder/source/repos/elderhu?

[copper nacelle]

yeah

iirc

i have mine in ~/Projects now

[static cloak]

does lightbringer balance redwing?

[copper nacelle]

[cunning lagoon]

ok which one do i open

[compact sedge]

lolno

[static cloak]

fuck

[buoyant obsidian]

Lightbringer? Balance?

[compact sedge]

edit the goddamn config

[solemn rivet]

^

[compact sedge]

and balance it yourself

[cunning lagoon]

i dont have a .csproj i have a .cs

[copper nacelle]

^

[static cloak]

I dont know what values are ideal though

[solemn rivet]

753

[static cloak]

;-;

[copper nacelle]

next to the .cs there should be a .csproj

[buoyant obsidian]

uh if 56 pushed the latest update Lightbringer is fairly balanced now

[compact sedge]

I don't either or I would have set better ones lol

[copper nacelle]

uhh

[cunning lagoon]

actually i lied

[solemn rivet]

do you really not have a steam_api.dll file?

[copper nacelle]

i haven't yet

[static cloak]

alright is there a way to remove the healing thing?

[copper nacelle]

was still editing stuff

i can push rn

[static cloak]

its busted

[solemn rivet]

yeah, uninstall the mod

[cunning lagoon]

ok i opened it

[static cloak]

I can restrict myself to make the game half challenging if the healing is removed

[copper nacelle]

set the damage to 0

[static cloak]

it shows the effects tho

[copper nacelle]

ok

[static cloak]

its clutter

[copper nacelle]

ur mum clutter

[cunning lagoon]

dont take damage

[copper nacelle]

don't heal

[static cloak]

ching

[cunning lagoon]

bling

[solemn rivet]

blang

[compact sedge]

who's ching?

[static cloak]

chign is there a way to remove the pillar

[solemn rivet]

idk AA

[compact sedge]

set its damage to zero

[copper nacelle]

@unborn badger is there a way to remove the pillar

[compact sedge]

it'll still appear

but it will do 0 damage

[static cloak]

it will show the effects

aka clutter

[solemn rivet]

oh 56 knows

[compact sedge]

uh well I can make it not appear if the damage is zero

but that's not in this version

[static cloak]

there has to be a way

to delete the damn thing

[copper nacelle]

wait what

that looks fine

[solemn rivet]

uninstall the mod

[cunning lagoon]

yeah

[copper nacelle]

uhh

[compact sedge]

send a PR

[cunning lagoon]

but it doesnt show up in vs

[static cloak]

the fire shit looks so cool tho

gradowww

[copper nacelle]

you still have red squiggles?

w/ that reffed

[solemn rivet]

you can't win them all champ

[copper nacelle]

you said you're teaching your friends coding

so you can code

so just edit the mod

[solemn rivet]

and send a pr

[cunning lagoon]

i have red squiggles on HuFinder and Initialize

[static cloak]

radiance

[copper nacelle]

show pic

HuFinder is fine

init shouldn't tho

[static cloak]

can we have a long discussion on the values so we can get them fixed

[copper nacelle]

what does it say

[solemn rivet]

modding has 0 squiggles

so it's good

[copper nacelle]

^

[static cloak]

i have some values in mind without removing some aspects of the game

radiant

[copper nacelle]

oh

[solemn rivet]

dlk hover Initialize

[copper nacelle]

you need public override void

not public override