#archived-modding-development

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hollow pier
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pasta spam

fair rampart
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#twitch-chat

cunning lagoon
compact sedge
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serious talk: never played DS but salt and sanctuary was pretty fun. Esp considering I did almost the entire game with nothing but daggers

hollow pier
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#how-do-i-unhide-the-debug-menu

fair rampart
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lmfaosd

cunning lagoon
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hey guys is invincibility mod uipdated for godmaster

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asking for a friend

fair rampart
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I played ds1 casually but played ds3 to death

compact sedge
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and when I finally stopped using dagger I switched to a only slightly less underpowered weapon on account of daggers being actually the worst.

fair rampart
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beat it at sl1 and it's something I'll always be proud of

solemn rivet
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s&s is the shit

copper nacelle
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ds3 sl1 is so fun

solemn rivet
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best 2d ds-like by a long shot

cunning lagoon
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haha yes gael amirite

copper nacelle
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yes

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gael is the best fight cmm

solemn rivet
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gael sl1 is just pain

copper nacelle
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false

fair rampart
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I didn't do the dlc for my sl1 run because I was getting burnt out on the game and decided to get it done then call it on a positive note

cunning lagoon
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just parry and roll lol

hollow pier
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has kuro played every game

copper nacelle
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parry gael GWchadMEGATHINK

cunning lagoon
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no i havent played ds

hollow pier
cunning lagoon
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but gael has a sick theme

solemn rivet
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gael is even worse than yhorm

hollow pier
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gael

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gae

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haha

solemn rivet
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and that's saying something

copper nacelle
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what

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how

hollow pier
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is that like jonny trying to spell thorn

copper nacelle
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yhorm was cake

solemn rivet
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yhorm is cake

copper nacelle
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gael is good fun

solemn rivet
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if you use stormruler

hollow pier
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yhorms of agony

fair rampart
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oof

solemn rivet
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try punching his toes to death

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sl1

copper nacelle
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isn't the strat profaned to the face

cunning lagoon
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yes

copper nacelle
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i need to finish my sl1 ng+7

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agony

solemn rivet
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not unless you're doing sl1 fists only

copper nacelle
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why

solemn rivet
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why not

copper nacelle
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is this gs0ul

solemn rivet
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I like fisting bosses

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it all started with bloodborne's viscerals

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such good visuals

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nice hat

cunning lagoon
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what an amazing display of skill

hollow pier
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2017 56

cunning lagoon
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why are you not getting hit by his attacks

hollow pier
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is this 13 years old

cunning lagoon
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wow he has a crossbow!?

fair rampart
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MODS

solemn rivet
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he's based off of Berserk's Gatz/Guts DLK

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so ofc he has a crossbow

cunning lagoon
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is the roll like the ddark of ds

solemn rivet
cunning lagoon
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zote doesnt answer my question

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ah you did get hit

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gael wins yet again

copper nacelle
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yeah my kill is bad

cunning lagoon
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it looks fun

copper nacelle
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it really is

compact sedge
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roll gives lots of iframes but only after a few ms so yeah it's like DD in that sense

solemn rivet
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was it a serious question

copper nacelle
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it's my favorite boss in the series by far

cunning lagoon
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yeah i have no experience with any souls game

fair rampart
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so if glorifying charms is just a straight upgrade, what exactly should they be locked behind

solemn rivet
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roll is like shade cloak

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movement + invuln time

cunning lagoon
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i see

compact sedge
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that's a better comparison tbh

cunning lagoon
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i assume managing your stamina is a big part of it

copper nacelle
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ye

solemn rivet
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the biggest tbh

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it's mostly positioning, timing and stamina management

compact sedge
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yeah the roll has a slight cooldown between use but much less than the cooldown if you run out of stamina

solemn rivet
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aside from that, mash R1

compact sedge
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wait I'm not allowed to talk about this

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I haven't even played DS

cunning lagoon
solemn rivet
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you played s&s, same thing

hollow pier
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yeah ds is cool but have you ever hitlessed a deerclops

solemn rivet
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eww

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don't starve

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get outta here

hollow pier
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wow

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i only play don't starve together

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thanks

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i love 27k hp dragonfly

cunning lagoon
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why play dont starve when ytou can play minecraft

solemn rivet
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don't starve, more like

hollow pier
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that's why i play duck game

solemn rivet
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don't play

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ever

cunning lagoon
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diamonds amirite

fair rampart
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don't starve is fun every now and then

hollow pier
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wow gradow what do you have against klei

compact sedge
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I love mining diamonds

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mine diamonds

(take on me)

so far I got TWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

solemn rivet
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I hate survival games tbh

compact sedge
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incoherent screaming

hollow pier
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i hate you

cunning lagoon
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i dont

hollow pier
cunning lagoon
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i think terraria is good

solemn rivet
hollow pier
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terraria is survival

compact sedge
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I really liked mark of the ninja

hollow pier
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omegaroll

compact sedge
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probably their best game

cunning lagoon
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are you saying it is or it isnt survival

fair rampart
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miner hollow knight mod

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lets u take myla's pickaxe and dig for diamonds

hollow pier
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i mean you survive

fair rampart
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craft a diamond nail

hollow pier
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so

solemn rivet
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so

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DM is a survival mode in HK

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gotcha

cunning lagoon
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Ok

solemn rivet
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dlk play s&s tbh

fair rampart
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hk survival mode where u have to eat and drink

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if u don't rest at a bench u get fatigued and u can have microsleeps in the middle of combat

compact sedge
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myla mod where you play myla and have to mine for dream essence while defending yourself against shades and vessels until you get enough to ascend.

solemn rivet
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I hate managing so many levels ugh

hollow pier
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play tein

cunning lagoon
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tein is good

hollow pier
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it is

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tein > smb change my mind

cunning lagoon
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i cant

hollow pier
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objective truth

compact sedge
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I mean the original super mario bros isn't that good

cunning lagoon
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someone got a complete deathless run not too long ago

hollow pier
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i did that my first playthrough

cunning lagoon
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same

solemn rivet
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I still need to play tein

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but I absolutely intend to

compact sedge
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gradow make a real salt mod so that the entire modlist isn't: one meme mod and a modding api.

solemn rivet
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wdym

compact sedge
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S&S has, best I can tell. one meme mod, and one modding api.

copper nacelle
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sean made boss rush didn't he

cunning lagoon
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no team cherry did

copper nacelle
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tbh expected that but with kdt

cunning lagoon
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yeah it probably would've been better

solemn rivet
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ok

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after 56 helps me with the mac port of the installer

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then I'll take a look at it, AA

hollow pier
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have you implemented woke into woke

copper nacelle
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no images yet

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soon tm

hollow pier
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shouldnt take more

blissful anvil
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Any mask changing or appearance mods?

solemn rivet
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absrad is upon us bois

copper nacelle
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wow shadoe hates you

cunning lagoon
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InvertKnight

hollow pier
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oh wow

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a mod inquiry

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not about cheating

copper nacelle
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does invertknight still work

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i didn't recompile it

fair rampart
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what's invertknight

cunning lagoon
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who knows

solemn rivet
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possibly

hollow pier
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knight but invert

cunning lagoon
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it inverts your knight

solemn rivet
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thgink

hollow pier
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thgink

fair rampart
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directionally or color-wise

copper nacelle
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color

cunning lagoon
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color

solemn rivet
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color

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roloc

hollow pier
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should be both

copper nacelle
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this video has it

cunning lagoon
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nice

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who dat

solemn rivet
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dunno

copper nacelle
solemn rivet
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some rando

hollow pier
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famous

cunning lagoon
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watch mantis gods hitless for epilepsy

hollow pier
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i like not epilepsy thx

solemn rivet
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wait is ptk now one of us as well?

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like dlk

cunning lagoon
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one of us πŸ‘€

solemn rivet
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one of us πŸ‘€

fair rampart
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whom

copper nacelle
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st

solemn rivet
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ptkyr

fair rampart
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buffed pv when

copper nacelle
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soon

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whenever i get around to it

fair rampart
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good

cunning lagoon
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first update qol to skip absrad and pv screams

fair rampart
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i was tempted to ask for the modder role but I have literally zero published mods so I don't think it counts

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lmao

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hmm

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I wonder uhh

rain cedar
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Modder role isn't even for anyone who makes mods

fair rampart
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@copper nacelle invertknight still works

rain cedar
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It gives pin/delete message permissions

blissful anvil
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Cool

fair rampart
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o

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i just used it earlier

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rip green name sadgrub

solemn rivet
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it's for moderators of this channel tbh

fair rampart
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does the focus cost hook support negatives so that you gain soul instead of losing it

copper nacelle
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wtf

rain cedar
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Idk try it

fair rampart
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moderators

copper nacelle
solemn rivet
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don't think so, but you can try it

fair rampart
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I just had an idea for a mod that made your nail damage 0 and you gained no soul on hit, but making focusing give you a foul soul meter and increased spell damage

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if that would even like

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work lmao

cunning lagoon
fair rampart
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that sounds neat

solemn rivet
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0 dmg nail doesn't work

fair rampart
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1, then

copper nacelle
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you could make it 1 and then hitinstance hook it to heal the enemy right before

fair rampart
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that would be a neat charm actually

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nail damage is very low but hits give a lot of soul to compensate

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perhaps replace soul eater since it's in its current state rather bad

copper nacelle
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what

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soul eater is broken

hexed swan
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soul eater is cute

copper nacelle
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soul eater is god tier

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soul eater, catcher, twister

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it's like 1 hit for 1 spell

fair rampart
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I usually rock shaman stone, soul catcher, spell twister

hexed swan
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probably why it has the highest non-kingsoul notch count thinkgrub

fair rampart
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I could never make soul eater work

cunning lagoon
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also hiveblood

hexed swan
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really does make you think

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and deep focus

cunning lagoon
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which is obviously very overpowered and needs a high cost

hexed swan
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insert comment about the wp here

hollow pier
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hiveblood is optimal for pop

cunning lagoon
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yes

hollow pier
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you don't see kuro use it in his rekky

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which is very risky

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but he's a god so

cunning lagoon
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ill implement hiveblood strats soon β„’

hexed swan
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though pop throws infinite soul at you in most parts of it

fair rampart
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Arcane Cairn

A hollow stone made of a rare material from before Hallownest.

Causes bearer's nail to strike softly, greatly reducing its damage, but the amount of SOUL gained from nail strikes istve tremendously increases.

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call it that

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bam, neat charm

solemn rivet
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is increases

hollow pier
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is tremendously increases

fair rampart
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fixed

cunning lagoon
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ist

hollow pier
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ist

solemn rivet
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ist

copper nacelle
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ist

hexed swan
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this is so sad

copper nacelle
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istve

fair rampart
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final edit, take it or leave it

hollow pier
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i'll take it

solemn rivet
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istvester

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or rito

hollow pier
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rito

fair rampart
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i wonder if it's possible to make heavy blow viable

solemn rivet
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boi

copper nacelle
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charming mod heavy blow

hollow pier
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course

copper nacelle
cunning lagoon
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yeah i sure wonder if you can

solemn rivet
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did you not try charming

hollow pier
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make pogos 5x highe

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r

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ez clap

fair rampart
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what's charming HB

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do

solemn rivet
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try it

hexed swan
solemn rivet
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just

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do it

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actually

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try it on NKG

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or some big boss

copper nacelle
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heavy blow + compass on

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gathering swarm is also super sick but harder to test on old saves

solemn rivet
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eww no, not compass

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compass is just memes

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swarms is quality shitpost tho

fair rampart
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yeah I saw what the code does

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I just couldn't really understand HB at a look

solemn rivet
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just

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do it

copper nacelle
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^

cunning lagoon
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excuse me were you STEALING code?

fair rampart
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yea lol

cunning lagoon
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ok

compact sedge
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Hey @fair rampart where do you apply for the modder role asking for a friend.

fair rampart
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like half of Exaltation is based off of lightbringer

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@compact sedge I have no idea and do not ahve the role myself

copper nacelle
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wow robbery

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get dmca'd

fair rampart
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oof my lawyer

solemn rivet
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don't 56

copper nacelle
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show exaltation when

solemn rivet
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too soon

fair rampart
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in all seriousness

compact sedge
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tbh all my mods started out stealing 100% of their code from other mods and now I'm just stealing code from myself.

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which in turn was stolen from other mods

fair rampart
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the editing-charm sprite thing is basically voodoo magic and I would have never figured it out on my own

solemn rivet
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stealΒ²

fair rampart
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@copper nacelle I've posted a few screenshots lately, let me jump ingame

hexed swan
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trust nobody aa

compact sedge
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redwing basically is an implementation of almost everything I could want to do in a mod so it has so much stuff to steal.

hexed swan
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not even yourself

fair rampart
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not much done so far tho

cunning lagoon
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hollow knight modding steal% [WR]

solemn rivet
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Xhu

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do

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charming

hollow pier
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steal soul

solemn rivet
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heavy blow

fair rampart
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I also need to make an override to glorify my charms

solemn rivet
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now

fair rampart
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no I'm watching tf2

cunning lagoon
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team fortress 2?

solemn rivet
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tf2 in 2k18

hollow pier
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no

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the fuck two

cunning lagoon
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did you just swear

solemn rivet
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did you just fucking swear*

hollow pier
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shit

copper nacelle
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personally i preferred the fuck one

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the fuck two just goes too far

solemn rivet
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duck, who said anything about ducks

hollow pier
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it goes

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two

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far

solemn rivet
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one of us πŸ‘€

cunning lagoon
copper nacelle
hollow pier
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blocked dyno

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is this loss

copper nacelle
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i block all bots

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mostly

hollow pier
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only blocked zote

cunning lagoon
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what if they some good shit

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they say*

copper nacelle
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i expand the messages if i care about them

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tbh

fair rampart
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i downloaded one of monstahler's save files and then killed hollow knight so that means I speedran the game

hollow pier
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what happened to your hackerman code that deleted the blocked message popup

cunning lagoon
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yes you are now the wr holder

hexed swan
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discord blocking is great because it makes blocked messages stand out from regular ones

hollow pier
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discord blocking is great because it makes blocked messages stand out from regular ones

hexed swan
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thanks i needed that

cunning lagoon
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discord blocking is great because it makes blocked messages stand out from regular ones

copper nacelle
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discord blocking is great because it makes blocked messages stand out from regular ones

hexed swan
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u imo

fair rampart
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discord babyhornet blocking πŸ›‘ is great 😀 because it makes blocked πŸ›‘ messages πŸ“§ stand out πŸƒ from regular ones πŸ‘‘

compact sedge
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[Show one blocked message]

hollow pier
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tbh was gonna block everyone for the screenshot but it would remove 56 from friends

compact sedge
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dang 56 is your friend

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I should make 56 my friend

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hey 56

hexed swan
cunning lagoon
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hes not even my friend zote

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what have i done to deserve this

compact sedge
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I could be your friend (IDK what being a friend on discord even does)

copper nacelle
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nothing

cunning lagoon
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i dont think it does anything

copper nacelle
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lets you pm people w/out sharing a server

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ig

hexed swan
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and that's an option tbh

cunning lagoon
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whoever doesnt friend me is big homosex imo

hollow pier
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you bypass clyde being an idiot if they have the right settings

fair rampart
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5-56 chan pwease be my fwiend >//< babyhornet grimmwink

cunning lagoon
compact sedge
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clyde loves deleting screenshots of code

copper nacelle
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sad but true

compact sedge
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ok ima retry P5 now that I've had some serious practice with PV

cunning lagoon
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nice

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gl

compact sedge
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I'm literally just hoping I can MAKE it to the radiance so I can log all the scenes and unlock her to fight

hollow pier
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p5

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pv

solemn rivet
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let's be friends

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also

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56

cunning lagoon
solemn rivet
copper nacelle
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yes

solemn rivet
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u know what you need to do

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do eet

copper nacelle
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yes

solemn rivet
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yes

fair rampart
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@copper nacelle since you were asking here's what the charms from exaltation look like thus far

πŸ“Ž unknown.png
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ignore the shaman stone one I accidentally shrunk the art

solemn rivet
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exalted

fair rampart
compact sedge
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(not glorified)

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call your mod gods and glory

fair rampart
copper nacelle
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ngl the charm sprites thing me so long to figure out the first time

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fuck the inventory fsm

fair rampart
candid grail
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hm unlimited notches... does anything odd happen if you equip them all?

copper nacelle
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no

fair rampart
candid grail
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aw

solemn rivet
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expedite

cunning lagoon
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i love that stagway coin sprite so much

compact sedge
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is this amazon

copper nacelle
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the inventory fsm dump was like 8mb

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actual agony

solemn rivet
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inventory fsm is shite

copper nacelle
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yes

hollow pier
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8mb my phones maximum is only like 7mb

fair rampart
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kingsmould carapace is the one I'm thinking might be op right now

hollow pier
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sounds op

compact sedge
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alright is it cheating if I beat GM P5 using a mod that dumps all the scenes as I load into them?

cunning lagoon
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for 2 notches it sounds op

hollow pier
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yes

fair rampart
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it has

  • the vanilla effects of stalwart shell
  • 3% more soul per hit for each missing mask
  • 5% movement speed for each missing mask
cunning lagoon
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but i dont know exactly what bonuses it gives so

solemn rivet
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how is that op

fair rampart
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i dunno, I figured it might be

hollow pier
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+24% soul each hit

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are you ok

fair rampart
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no I'm xhuis

cunning lagoon
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well tbf you'd be almost dead

solemn rivet
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fotf strats

hollow pier
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yeah but spells for years

compact sedge
hollow pier
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dq

solemn rivet
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move like a god

cunning lagoon
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thats like 1 hit 1 spell even without spell twister right

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because normal soul regen is like 11%/hit?

solemn rivet
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yup

fair rampart
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ye

cunning lagoon
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high risk high reward i guess

fair rampart
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so at 1 mask you're superzoomy and get all the soul ever

solemn rivet
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I might make the Charming Carefree Melody cd time only 30s

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how's that sound?

hollow pier
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hoes

solemn rivet
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oof

cunning lagoon
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oof

compact sedge
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charming does something to carefree melody?

cunning lagoon
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30s sounds fair

solemn rivet
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it does now

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I made it today

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blocks 100% of any damage

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but has a cooldown

copper nacelle
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what about radiant fights

fair rampart
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I was aiming to make the glorified version reduce damage taken by 1 (as long as it's more than 1 mask of damage)

solemn rivet
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at first I made it 90s

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but that's too long tbh

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you can use it in radiant fights, 56, sure

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πŸ‘€

copper nacelle
compact sedge
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are you gonna do anything with grimmchild or just make it suggest grimmchild upgrades or something?

solemn rivet
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me or xhu?

fair rampart
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I wasn't sure

compact sedge
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you gradow

solemn rivet
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nah

fair rampart
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heck u 2

solemn rivet
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for some reason tho

cunning lagoon
copper nacelle
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weren't you gonna do 2 grimmchildren

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xhu

fair rampart
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I wanted to but I didn't know if I could

copper nacelle
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should be easy

solemn rivet
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editing my save to give carefree made grimmchild spawn

hollow pier
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when is the markoth buff with 8 dshields

solemn rivet
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so idk what's up with that

copper nacelle
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i might buff markoth after pv

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for the meme

cunning lagoon
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just leave elder hu untouched

solemn rivet
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56 you've fought markoth for a long time

cunning lagoon
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ill take care of him

copper nacelle
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yes

solemn rivet
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how long does the fight usually take

copper nacelle
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too long

solemn rivet
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in minutes

copper nacelle
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like 2 minutes to win

solemn rivet
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huh

cunning lagoon
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more like 1

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be faster

copper nacelle
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u

solemn rivet
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so 30s cd would be op

copper nacelle
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i'd rather be slower and alive

hollow pier
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its 1m tbh

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56 just bad

copper nacelle
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same

cunning lagoon
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the boss cant kill you if its dead

copper nacelle
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reva bakta

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tew

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tew

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tew

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tew

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tew

cunning lagoon
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same

solemn rivet
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how about 60s cooldown?

copper nacelle
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make it not block damage over 998 imo

fair rampart
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hmm

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I might move the soul per hit from kingsmould carapace to the grubsong upgrade

solemn rivet
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no

fair rampart
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makes sense

compact sedge
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you could do what redwing does. x seconds but it is reduced every time you deal damage.

solemn rivet
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I wanna help you beat markoth

copper nacelle
hollow pier
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if you get hit at 1hp you get full soul gauge

compact sedge
#

or what would make more sense for carefree

solemn rivet
#

press (X) to doubt that 56 can beat it by himself

compact sedge
#

is it's reduced everytime you take damage

copper nacelle
#

u

hollow pier
#

X

cunning lagoon
#

x

copper nacelle
#

die

solemn rivet
#

xxxxx

compact sedge
#

so like 60s - 15 per time you get hit

solemn rivet
#

that's a nice idea, AA

compact sedge
#

just be careful with your player getting hit detection code.

copper nacelle
#

0 damage combo mod meme

solemn rivet
#

oh yeah

compact sedge
#

if you don't wanna use reflection here's the full check:

        private static bool canTakeDamage(int hazardType)
        {
            return (HeroController.instance.damageMode != DamageMode.NO_DAMAGE &&
                    HeroController.instance.transitionState == HeroTransitionState.WAITING_TO_TRANSITION &&
                    (!HeroController.instance.cState.invulnerable && !HeroController.instance.cState.recoiling) &&
                    (!HeroController.instance.playerData.isInvincible && !HeroController.instance.cState.dead &&
                     (!HeroController.instance.cState.hazardDeath && !BossSceneController.IsTransitioning)) &&
                    (HeroController.instance.damageMode != DamageMode.HAZARD_ONLY || hazardType != 1) &&
                    (!HeroController.instance.cState.shadowDashing || hazardType != 1) &&
                    ((double) HeroController.instance.parryInvulnTimer <= 0.0 || hazardType != 1));
        }

(also need to check that the actual damage amount is more than 0)

solemn rivet
#

ty

cunning lagoon
#

56 how is that p5 going

copper nacelle
#

markoth

cunning lagoon
#

imagine being stuck on a boss for a week

#

well i guess that was me with ngg

#

so nvm

#

ptk how is that p5 going

copper nacelle
#

i should make nightmare god markoth

#

a complete bullet hell

#

sounds fun

buoyant obsidian
#

bullet hells are tons of fun

copper nacelle
#

753 did you get refs working tho

buoyant obsidian
#

Nope I gave up :)

copper nacelle
buoyant obsidian
#

I'll probably give it a try tomorrow

#

but I literally spent like 2 hours

#

downloaded like 4 things

#

moved like 10 folders

copper nacelle
#

tried moving managed and stuff right

solemn rivet
#

did u

#

restart ur pc

buoyant obsidian
#

yes

solemn rivet
buoyant obsidian
#

and yes

copper nacelle
#

iirc one way to do it is you can put the assemblies in bin/Debug/

#

and then select them there

buoyant obsidian
#

where's bin/Debug?

copper nacelle
buoyant obsidian
#

k I'll give it a shot

copper nacelle
#

also this sounds really dumb but you do have .net 3.5 right

solemn rivet
buoyant obsidian
#

3.5...

copper nacelle
#

i mean like the dev pack

buoyant obsidian
#

I'm using newest

copper nacelle
#

yes

#

newest doesn't have 3.5

buoyant obsidian
#

b-but... it said 3.5 or greater...

copper nacelle
#

never believe it

solemn rivet
buoyant obsidian
#

:(

copper nacelle
buoyant obsidian
#

BUT GRADOW CAN DO IT

#

REEEEEEEEEEEE

copper nacelle
#

cause his app is actually .net 4

#

hk mods are stuck in the past

#

he can use dynamic typing

solemn rivet
#

I want to update to 4.7.1 btw

compact sedge
#

pls no

copper nacelle
#

stop it hurts

solemn rivet
#

yeah, was about to ask that

#

ok

copper nacelle
#

4.7 doesn't work on linux

#

through wine

#

idk about mono

solemn rivet
#

yup

#

it has some cool libraries tho

copper nacelle
solemn rivet
#

it even has one shiny new library for detecting the running os

buoyant obsidian
#

where do I find the .net settings in Rider?

copper nacelle
#

right click project => edit => csproj

#

that shows the .net project for the thingy tho

#

tbh it usually compiles w/ .NET 4 if you try

solemn rivet
#

btw 56

copper nacelle
#

but sometimes weird stuff happens w/ .net 4 and hk

solemn rivet
#

I'll just push the code for the installer

#

if you have the time, please add the mac paths to it

#

if not, it's fine too

copper nacelle
#

ye i will

#

installing the .net 3.5 pack should let you compile lightbringer w/out changing its target tho

solemn rivet
#

also if you wanna compile it for shit and giggles,

#

or it'll instantly update itself

copper nacelle
#

ye ik

#

i need to add a mac build thing

#

so it can create a .app

#

w/ mono bundled

#

cause mac default mono is death

solemn rivet
#

honestly, the ideal would be for it to be a universal release

#

but I don't think that's possible

buoyant obsidian
#

it's not showing me the .net version

copper nacelle
#

show

buoyant obsidian
#

when I right click edit csproject

copper nacelle
#

uh

#

lemme

buoyant obsidian
# 
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<Project ToolsVersion="15.0" xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/developer/msbuild/2003">
  <Import Project="$(MSBuildExtensionsPath)\$(MSBuildToolsVersion)\Microsoft.Common.props" Condition="Exists('$(MSBuildExtensionsPath)\$(MSBuildToolsVersion)\Microsoft.Common.props')" />
  <PropertyGroup>
    <Configuration Condition=" '$(Configuration)' == '' ">Debug</Configuration>
    <Platform Condition=" '$(Platform)' == '' ">AnyCPU</Platform>
    <ProjectGuid>{AC3F861C-34E8-426E-BB02-390E53440529}</ProjectGuid>
    <OutputType>Library</OutputType>
    <AppDesignerFolder>Properties</AppDesignerFolder>
    <RootNamespace>Lightbringer</RootNamespace>
    <AssemblyName>Lightbringer</AssemblyName>
    <TargetFrameworkVersion>v3.5</TargetFrameworkVersion>
    <FileAlignment>512</FileAlignment>
  </PropertyGroup>
  <PropertyGroup Condition=" '$(Configuration)|$(Platform)' == 'Debug|AnyCPU' ">
    <DebugSymbols>true</DebugSymbols>
    <DebugType>full</DebugType>
    <Optimize>false</Optimize>
    <OutputPath>bin\Debug\</OutputPath>
    <DefineConstants>DEBUG;TRACE</DefineConstants>
    <ErrorReport>prompt</ErrorReport>
    <WarningLevel>4</WarningLevel>
  </PropertyGroup>
  <PropertyGroup Condition=" '$(Configuration)|$(Platform)' == 'Release|AnyCPU' ">
    <DebugType>pdbonly</DebugType>
copper nacelle
#

<TargetFrameworkVersion>v3.5</TargetFrameworkVersion>

buoyant obsidian
#

oh

#

I swear that wasn't there before

copper nacelle
#

if 4.5 works you def need the pack

compact sedge
#

my argument against you using 4.7 gradow is yeah the latest mono may support it but what about the one bundled with mac or ubuntu.

buoyant obsidian
#

it says 3.5

#

does that mean I'm using 3.5?

copper nacelle
#

it means the project wants to do 3.5

buoyant obsidian
#

where do I switch to 3.5

copper nacelle
#

the project is set to 3.5 so msbuild will work for 3.5 automatically

solemn rivet
#

oh yeah, AA, I agree

copper nacelle
#

you just get the pack and it'll work i think

buoyant obsidian
#

but I got the pack

solemn rivet
#

that's why I was gonna ask you and 56 if it was ok to use 4.7

copper nacelle
#

it downloaded and installed and stuff still doesn't work?

buoyant obsidian
#

I'm fairly sure

copper nacelle
#

you deleted and re-added the refs right

buoyant obsidian
#

yes

copper nacelle
#

change the use msbuild version to the rider one you downloaded tbh

#

oh wait yeah

#

ms also has one

#

which you can custom download

buoyant obsidian
#

Rider's file browser is actually garbage

copper nacelle
#

yes

#

fuck rider's file browser

#

oh you have an old msbuild

#

that might be why

#

msbuild can be such a pain

#

ok imo try this

#

it's what i use

#

everything else acts weird

#

ref wasn't resolved by msbuild

#

lets me build tho

#

i just ignore it

buoyant obsidian
#

Build failed

copper nacelle
#

are you using the new msbuild

#

the one i linked

#

double checked the old ones

#

and they all horribly fail

#

for me

buoyant obsidian
#

I'm using the one that appears if you have Visual Studio, which is the same one

copper nacelle
#

any other error w/ build failed

buoyant obsidian
#

225 errors

copper nacelle
#

show

#

if it's something about a get accessor then ik what's wrong

buoyant obsidian
copper nacelle
#

agony

#

lemme see your refs

buoyant obsidian
#

hold on I just removed them all again

copper nacelle
#

ok

buoyant obsidian
#

hold on I just halved my errors

#

it might be working now

copper nacelle
#

nice

buoyant obsidian
#

I didn't do anything though

#

like actually

copper nacelle
#

.net 3.5 pack and re-adding maybe

#

Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

buoyant obsidian
#

what's missing here

copper nacelle
#

UnityEngine.AudioModule

#

UnityEngine.ImageConversionModule

#

UnityEngine.TextRenderingModule

#

UnityEngine.UI

#

UnityEngine.UIModule

#

rider should be able to add them for you btw

buoyant obsidian
#

7 more errors gone

copper nacelle
#

nice

#

if you go over the red-text

buoyant obsidian
#

78 to go

copper nacelle
#

alt-enter

#

there's something like

#

add missing references for file

buoyant obsidian
#

not available

copper nacelle
#

rip

#

what errors are left

buoyant obsidian
copper nacelle
#

pain

#

right click assembly-csharp => diagnose reference?

buoyant obsidian
#

?

copper nacelle
#

wtf

#

rider thinks the ref is fine but msbuild doesn't

#

have you tried the custom path resharper msbuild

buoyant obsidian
#

the what

copper nacelle
#

aka

buoyant obsidian
#

I did

#

where is the file I must select

copper nacelle
#

you extracted it right

buoyant obsidian
#

yep

#

256 files

copper nacelle
#

whereitis\JetMSBuild\MSBuild\15.0\Bin\MSBuild.exe

buoyant obsidian
#

same errors

copper nacelle
#

right click the assembly-csharp ref => properties

buoyant obsidian
#

public override string GetVersion() => "shitpost";

#

what is this

copper nacelle
#

shitpost

#

people were complaining about the version being UNKNOWN

buoyant obsidian
copper nacelle
#

that explains that

#

also that's vanilla

#

lemme pm you a build folder

buoyant obsidian
#

wtf

#

it renamed itself

#

fucking not vanilla

#

are you serious

copper nacelle
#

yes

#

that's the error

#

vanilla

buoyant obsidian
#

why the fuck

copper nacelle
#

also it says .net 4.6.1

buoyant obsidian
#

can a file have a different name than its fucking name

copper nacelle
#

assembly name vs actual name

buoyant obsidian
#

even the full-name

#

is not its name

copper nacelle
#

yes

#

also that should def be .NETFramework,Version=3.5

buoyant obsidian
#

why did it even let me add it in the first place

copper nacelle
#

idk

#

it lets you force it

#

should work after this tho

buoyant obsidian
#

holy fuck yes

copper nacelle
#

y e s

buoyant obsidian
#

that sneaky bastard was using the vanilla

copper nacelle
#

also did you change the mod path in the csproj

#

it's so nice

buoyant obsidian
#

mod path?

#

you mean so I don't overwrite it?

copper nacelle
#

MOD_DEST

#

you change that to your mods folder

#

so you can just build

#

and then open hk immediately to test

buoyant obsidian
#

ah smart

#

D:\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\hollow_knight_Data\Managed\Mods

#

is Rider smart enough to know where that is

#

copy "$(TargetPath)" D:\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\hollow_knight_Data\Managed\Mods

copper nacelle
#

yeah

#

wdym tho

#

wait did vanilla switch to 4.7 or something

buoyant obsidian
#

ctrl-s is save all

#

dangerous

copper nacelle
#

i just ctrl-shift-b

#

which saves and builds

buoyant obsidian
#

Thanks for all the help

copper nacelle
#

yw

buoyant obsidian
#

this is C# right

#

how do I path

#

paths are stupid iirc

copper nacelle
#

\\ before anything which has a space

compact sedge
#

vanilla is 3.5 but they link against a 4.7 one

#

for some reason

#

mscorlib

copper nacelle
#

wtf

buoyant obsidian
#

D:\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\hollow_knight_Data\Managed\Mods

compact sedge
#

I think they aren't actually using that particular mscorlib

buoyant obsidian
#

like that?

#

D:\Steam\steamapps\common\\Hollow Knight\hollow_knight_Data\Managed\Mods

copper nacelle
#

ye

compact sedge
#

always use /

#

actually

copper nacelle
#

does that work in cmd tho

compact sedge
#

oh in cmd use \

#

otherwise in any actual c# code use /

buoyant obsidian
#

but this is C# code that uses cmds

copper nacelle
#

post build is just a .bat inside a .csproj

#

so you'd use \\

buoyant obsidian
#

D:\Steam\steamapps\common\\Hollow Knight\hollow_knight_Data\Managed\Mods

#

didn't work

copper nacelle
#

is your Steam in D?

buoyant obsidian
#

yep

#

I really hate imports referencing and paths

copper nacelle
#

same

#

oh wait then you should be able to just leave it unchanged

#

cause my steam is also there

buoyant obsidian
#

reeee

#

yep

#

I should've just looked 2 lines up

#

SET MOD_DEST="D:\Steam\\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\hollow_knight_Data\Managed\Mods\"

copper nacelle
buoyant obsidian
#

Any ieda why the \ goes in front of Steam?

#

like why there instead of before the space or even after the D:

copper nacelle
#

nope

buoyant obsidian
#

C# always gives me trouble with paths because of that crap

copper nacelle
#

in c# code i just use /

#

works the same as the double backslash nonsense

buoyant obsidian
#

oh

copper nacelle
#

post build events w/ it are pain tho

buoyant obsidian
#

post build events?

copper nacelle
#

ye like the copying after build thing

#

those actually need backslashes

buoyant obsidian
#

so many rules

copper nacelle
#

yes

#

:agony:

buoyant obsidian
#

nitro when

cunning lagoon
copper nacelle
#

closest i've got

compact sedge
#

FUCK YES RADIANT PURE VESSEL

cunning lagoon
solemn rivet
#

noice

compact sedge
#

totally got insane luck to do it but also abused the heck out of DD

#

because that attack where he shoots the lances in all directions is a pain without it

#

Also

#

I did it without overcharming

#

or using steady body

copper nacelle
#

nice

compact sedge
#

basically my strat is if he teleported away from me. ALWAYS jump because it's either the dash or the tentacles or the lances and if it's lances always DD using quick spell button.

copper nacelle
#

now do markoth

compact sedge
#

no I'm doing panth 5 now

#

if I can get to abs rad I can get scene dumps for all the scenes and that means being able to make my combo mod

#

I don't even need to beat it

solemn rivet
#

use debugmod

copper nacelle
#

i'm going to get markoth today

#

mark my words

compact sedge
#

I still haven't beaten it legit

#

and I wanna beat it legit

#

or at all

#

I haven't beaten it

#

I want the achievement at least and not to get it with debugmod

copper nacelle
#

i need to get two double hits

#

i think

#

kill me

cunning lagoon
#

u need to reduce his health to 0

compact sedge
#

also hopefully not a stupid question but why is gruz mother built to mess up people with sharp shadow?

cunning lagoon
#

so you stop using sharp shadow

copper nacelle
#

who dies to marmu

compact sedge
#

but it breaks every other fight

copper nacelle
#

sharp shadow is bad

#

cmm

compact sedge
#

oh that's why because TC doesn't want me breaking their fights

#

for example I can dash either direction from traitor lord thanks to the extra range.

solemn rivet
#

never tried sharp shadow gruz

compact sedge
#

and don't have to dodge him the proper way

solemn rivet
#

wut happen

compact sedge
#

it's just the spikes

solemn rivet
#

oh

native widget
#

He just pogos onto you, so you just go underneath him and upperstrike him

#

Not much dodging required really

copper nacelle
#

help i wanted two double hits but

#

i got one double, one single, one double

#

actual death

#

one double, two single might be ok

cunning lagoon
#

haha yes

copper nacelle
#

does he follow you or is he just garbo

cunning lagoon
#

idk he kinda floats around randomly

copper nacelle
#

at full soul and w/ 2 doubles

#

it takes like 2 nail hits to transition him

#

so i want to get him up and to do the spin

#

so i can abyss shriek

#

then it should take <10 shade souls to kill him

cunning lagoon
#

sounds like a solid strat

copper nacelle
#

ye

native widget
#

Get quickslash and time your hits, dont just nail 24/7

copper nacelle
#

quickslash means less soul

#

ruins the strat

cunning lagoon
#

quickslash will probably do close to nothing

native widget
#

I mean in that fight might be, but in others its useful

cunning lagoon
#

yes

copper nacelle
#

i got one single

#

then 2 doubles

#

why do i live

cunning lagoon
#

do you have shaman stone

native widget
#

Unbreakable/fragile strength if you have the notches plus if you want to defeat him quickly

copper nacelle
#

yes

cunning lagoon
#

that makes for easier double hits right

copper nacelle
#

yes

cunning lagoon
#

just do what i do and wait for the spin to get most of your hits in

#

hitting him while he's floating around the arena is hopeless

copper nacelle
#

i barely hit him during spin

native widget
#

^

copper nacelle
native widget
#

Just dont go around flaying your nail

#

Go underneath and time your hits with when he wants to strike you

#

He will bounce back and try again, repeat the tactic

hollow pier
#

tbh hitting not during spin is fine

#

just make sure it's always a double

cunning lagoon
#

yeah ofc if you can hit him outside of it its fine

native widget
#

Once he switches to the sides, you just angle your hits to that side or just shadow through him

cunning lagoon
#

but the spin makes for relatively easy hits

hollow pier
#

ss is useless if it doesn't double change my mind

cunning lagoon
#

how do you get doubles consistently

native widget
#

dashmaster + sprintmaster + sharp shadow

cunning lagoon
#

is there anything you can do to influence it

hollow pier
#

just hit while he moves away

fair rampart
#

Speedmaster

#

:P

copper nacelle
#

also don't hit him against the wall

hollow pier
#

other than that it's rng

#

that too

#

but that's obvious

cunning lagoon
#

right

hollow pier
#

ss is so massive it basically always doubles anyways

copper nacelle
#

yea

cunning lagoon
#

so what you are saying is

#

use heavy blow to knock enemies into ss multiple times

hollow pier
#

might actually work

#

try it

copper nacelle
#

if you get that consistent for like 3 hits

#

i will die

hollow pier
#

kuro can't even get pv to empty hop how will he do this

cunning lagoon
copper nacelle
#

you ever do 3 ss

#

and they all single hit

#

so you just suicide

cunning lagoon
#

heavy blow should affect spells

#

from worst charm to decent charm

#

wow my game just crashed

copper nacelle
#

f

native widget
cunning lagoon
#

what would be a good enemy to test heavy blow on

#

soul warrior?

copper nacelle
#

markoth

cunning lagoon
#

no thanks

copper nacelle
#

you ever fall between markoth and his shield

#

and then get skewered midair

cunning lagoon
#

solid build

#

imo

#

nah no way heavy blow does anything lmao

hollow pier
#

elder hu

#

basically all dwarriors get blown the fuck back by anything

#

save for galien

cunning lagoon
#

elder hu is a cunt

#

why does he go invulnerable all the time

#

elder god will never be invulnerable

hollow pier
#

i mean he's kinda consistent

#

dash left on final block thing

#

and he spawns left

cunning lagoon
#

i mean the attack where you just can't hit him

copper nacelle
#

MEGA

cunning lagoon
#

ill just remove it ez

#

finally

copper nacelle
#

that's the attack name

#

M E G A

cunning lagoon
#

what

copper nacelle
#

in the fsm

#

the attack where goes invin

#

is called

#

MEGA

cunning lagoon
#

well i will remove MEGA

hollow pier
#

MEGA

#

THINK

fair rampart
#

OHMM

#

BAAAA

cunning lagoon
#

ok no quadruple hits with heavy blow

#

i am disappoint

hollow pier
#

wtf

#

mans going for quads

#

did you get triples

cunning lagoon
#

i have no idea

hollow pier
#

there's a sound cue

copper nacelle
#

the hit sound

hollow pier
#

yes

#

should hear 3 hit sounds

#

do it on wk