#archived-modding-development

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compact sedge
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or just use your old account you had from when you were 14

cunning lagoon
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what do you want your username and pw to be

copper nacelle
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fiftysix/fiftysix

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ez

floral furnace
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wait how are you accessing the site tho?

compact sedge
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make the password at least a little less bad

copper nacelle
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i can just change it after

floral furnace
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"markothsucks5555"

cunning lagoon
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it wont let me put the same pw as the username

copper nacelle
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what taco said

cunning lagoon
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ok

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done

copper nacelle
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h a h a

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y e s

cunning lagoon
copper nacelle
floral furnace
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nice

cunning lagoon
copper nacelle
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nice

floral furnace
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wut

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isnt that pass the throne room

cunning lagoon
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when you cdash at the end of the wp you go down instead of up

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and theres a tunnel that leads you there

floral furnace
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ahhh

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thought this was the same breakable throne wall room

copper nacelle
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whenever i look over i just see your pfp

cunning lagoon
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that tends to happen

copper nacelle
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no but like

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look at it

cunning lagoon
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its a good looking taco

copper nacelle
floral furnace
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I mean, nothing inherently wrong with the pic right cough

copper nacelle
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i really want to replace the markoth sprites with something like that

cunning lagoon
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😩

copper nacelle
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same

rare barn
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sorry to interrupt your conversation, but does anyone know why Randomizer doesn't work at all?

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I have the mod API, ModCommon, but it still doesn't work

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I have tried it on Linux and Windows

copper nacelle
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godmaster update machine 🅱roke

rare barn
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I see

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thanks

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Is there any way to play a previous version of the game?

cunning lagoon
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56 when are you getting sub 2:30 pop

copper nacelle
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re

cunning lagoon
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ss makes it free

copper nacelle
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wait what

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might try it then

compact sedge
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yes you can downpatch with steamcmd if you want but the problem is then you'd have to download the api manually and not from the installer

cunning lagoon
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not free free but kinda free

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my movement is worse than monstah's and i beat it by 5 seconds

rare barn
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I never use the installer anyway, is there any reason I should?

compact sedge
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auto updates for mods. that's about it imo

cunning lagoon
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it will take a while to get used to the inconsistent dash length though

rare barn
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ok

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I understand

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I think I will just wait and hope for the mod to be updated then

compact sedge
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actually it might be worth considering in installer 9.0 to only list mods that have been updated and work on the latest version, or maybe HK version detection idk.

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the latter might be kinda hard to do but I'm thinking sha1sums for both the modding api assembly and the vanilla assembly for both lifeblood and godmaster.

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or maybe there's an easier way to detect versions

copper nacelle
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it's written in c# tho

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just load the assembly

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check the version

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ez

compact sedge
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oh ye I guess you could do that too

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no but I don't think that would work since I think the version number is stored as a const

copper nacelle
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reflection

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.

rare barn
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shit can't use the installer

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just checked

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it's an exe file

compact sedge
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mono

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bigmeme

rare barn
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I'm running linux mint...

copper nacelle
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mono

compact sedge
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mono ModInstaller.exe

copper nacelle
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is this the smartest man alive

compact sedge
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bigmeme

rare barn
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I'm an idiot

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I just switched a week ago, have never heard about mono

copper nacelle
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run the installer in wine hollowwoke

compact sedge
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pls no

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anyway you should have mono installed by default and if not it should be called something like mono-complete on ubuntu like distros.

copper nacelle
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run systemd in wine hollowwoke

rare barn
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kek

compact sedge
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Run windows subsystem for linux in wine

rare barn
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yeah I just saw the man page for mono

copper nacelle
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run bash on an ssh server in cygwin in wine

rare barn
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thanks for the amazing tips

copper nacelle
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switch to bspwm

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ez

rare barn
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install gentoo in vm in gentoo in vm in windows 98

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anyways mono didn't work

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Unhandled Exception:
System.IO.FileNotFoundException: Could not load file or assembly or one of its dependencies.
File name: 'System.Windows.Forms, Version=4.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b77a5c561934e089'

copper nacelle
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try installing winforms

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hhhhhh

compact sedge
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oh my god mint is outdated

copper nacelle
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no shit it's mint

compact sedge
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no

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wait

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it's because you need mono-complete

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not just the core package

rare barn
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oh

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I see

compact sedge
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idk why ubuntu splits it up like that

copper nacelle
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cause debian does

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small packages

compact sedge
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I like gentoo but I'm also literally insane so.

copper nacelle
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compiling :ech:

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bspwm_irl

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taco no

compact sedge
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hey 56 I wanna write an article to shill QoL, is there anything in it you want me to say?

copper nacelle
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idk

compact sedge
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also why don't toggled mods persist

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if I disable a mod and reset HK it reenables

copper nacelle
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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api is supposed to save them

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maybe disable load and unload a save

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then reset hk

floral furnace
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"I used to be in crippling debt, no home and my wife hates me. But then I found QoL mod and.. well its still the same but at least Hollow Knight plays better now i guess"

compact sedge
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tbh if anyone wants to write an article shilling their own mod I will post it pretty much verbatum so long as it's not too memey

solemn rivet
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inv sent

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btw

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about what you said, AA

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petition to remove outdated/obsolete mods from the xml

compact sedge
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yes

solemn rivet
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react to vote

buoyant obsidian
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why wouldn't they be removed?

solemn rivet
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because

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I'm simply the maintainer of the xml, not the owner

copper nacelle
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version detection hollowwoke

compact sedge
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what if. hear me out. we made a modlinks for lifeblood. we could make it once and never update it.

solemn rivet
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no, bad 56

copper nacelle
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idk I might try making version detection

solemn rivet
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tbh fell free to pr 56

compact sedge
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and the main real modlinks only has mods for the newest version, so no non-api mods period.

solemn rivet
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ok

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idea

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add yet another button

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"Select game patch"

rare barn
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I want as many buttons as possible

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give me buttons

compact sedge
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tbh first let's just remove all the outdated shit (maybe tell google drive to keep the version right before as permanent) and then we can do that.

solemn rivet
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we can just back it up as "modlinks(backup).xml"

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imo

floral furnace
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old version archives?

compact sedge
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ok

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done

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also does it work for you now @rare barn?

rare barn
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yeah the mono-full package fixed it

compact sedge
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tbh surprised that the number of people using Linux who talk in modding basically doubled this week.

copper nacelle
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just run it in wine smh

rare barn
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shaking my smh

copper nacelle
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i really should look at ilspy

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or making rider's decompiler less ree

solemn rivet
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should I

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remove the Charm Notch mod?

copper nacelle
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think it still works

rare barn
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I can test

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give me a minute

copper nacelle
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why is ilspy so ugly

solemn rivet
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it still works but

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rando2 already does that on its own, doesn't it?

copper nacelle
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yes

rare barn
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rando2 doesn't work tho

copper nacelle
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also true

solemn rivet
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sean is working on it rn

compact sedge
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wow for the first time after adding a scrollbar, the modinstaller is gonna lose its scrollbar

solemn rivet
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not literally now

copper nacelle
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what if i ilspy ilspy

buoyant obsidian
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we need to go deeper

compact sedge
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readmes work perfectly btw

copper nacelle
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try the readme for bindings

solemn rivet
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still scrollboye

compact sedge
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no readme exists for bindings

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56 pls

copper nacelle
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yes

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maybe i'll try running dnspy through steam play or something

floral furnace
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the fuck is that light mode

rare barn
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just tested launching with charm notch mod and it seems like it workds

solemn rivet
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ye

copper nacelle
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i swear qol is my most popular mod

rare barn
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I am using rando2

solemn rivet
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yeah

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my bad

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also, 56

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that's literally the best mod

cunning lagoon
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not surprising

solemn rivet
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you should put it in moddb tbh

cunning lagoon
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i dont think mantis gods and lost lord would appeal to many players

compact sedge
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infinite notches is by far my most popular mod.

copper nacelle
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sad but true

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yeah i should

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my pictures will just be someone menu dropping

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and storage

solemn rivet
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modinstaller is by far my most popular mod -- o wai

floral furnace
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you could literally just make it "salubra shuts up" alone and youd still get all the downloads

solemn rivet
rare barn
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what if someone mods the modinstaller and it becomes their most popular mod thinkgrub

copper nacelle
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ttacco

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that's probably true

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ngl

compact sedge
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uhhh it's updating my modinstaller every time both messing up your stats and wasting bandwidth

solemn rivet
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wut

compact sedge
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not a lot of bandwidth

floral furnace
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like noone would complain about godmaster if they added the ability for salubra to stop tbh /s

solemn rivet
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sigh must be mismatched sha1

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82d97b265dcb7f7e3ffcc5bad77f34f462bde277

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no, that's right

compact sedge
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I mean I have 1TB per month so I'm literally 0 worried about it (we're at 3GB used and only a few days from the end). but the messed up stats, man.

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Fenrir ~/Downloads/modins $ sha1sum ModInstaller.exe 
e8492fb84befef9d1943ddb1bd1fdf158d149a0b  ModInstaller.exe
solemn rivet
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wtf

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what about now?

compact sedge
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oh you know what I think it keeps downloading an update but not actually writing the file or something idk

copper nacelle
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who would win

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a master coder

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or a shasum

solemn rivet
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can u sha1 the one in radiance?

compact sedge
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radiance one is 82d

solemn rivet
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k

compact sedge
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if I download and run the new one manually it doesn't say there's any updates, but the version number is the same as the other one

solemn rivet
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804?

compact sedge
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yeah

solemn rivet
copper nacelle
solemn rivet
copper nacelle
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git bash/mingw/cmder

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yw

compact sedge
copper nacelle
floral furnace
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at least the splash art is updated for gng

compact sedge
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does anyone know who actually does run the TC twitter? are they in the credits?

floral furnace
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isnt it Leth?

solemn rivet
compact sedge
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can we invite them to the discord, with a red carpet and all?

copper nacelle
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@ Leth#2597 promote us instead of moddb thank

solemn rivet
compact sedge
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and if you rerun it it doesn't redownload it?

solemn rivet
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(had to go offline tho, still have no idea why)

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it keeps updating

cunning lagoon
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o shit

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uumuu nerfs

solemn rivet
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maybe it's not writing

cunning lagoon
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why did they nerf pv tho

compact sedge
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well uh I hope that's patched in the the actual 8.0.4

copper nacelle
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also abs rad

hazy sentinel
copper nacelle
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abs rad, pv, uumuu, markoth

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are who got nerfed

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m a r k o t h

cunning lagoon
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is absrad only health nerfs

compact sedge
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I uh... wanna know who does tho.

copper nacelle
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ye

cunning lagoon
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they need to fix the fireball bug

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instead of nerfing the health

solemn rivet
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that's actually fault of the updater tho

cunning lagoon
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or should i say bugs

solemn rivet
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uumuu nerfed how

compact sedge
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oh good so you won't have to upload anything new to moddb

solemn rivet
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ye

cunning lagoon
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he has less health, spawns jellyfish more often, the explosion hurt radius is smaller

copper nacelle
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uumuu nerf died

solemn rivet
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just to github

cunning lagoon
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the jellyfish move slower

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he takes less knockback and he stays staggered for longer

copper nacelle
solemn rivet
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nice

copper nacelle
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markoth can die

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pv radiant is easier

compact sedge
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is the beta actually out yet?

cunning lagoon
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i think it's a bit too excessive but i'm not opposed to those changes ngl

floral furnace
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not yet aa

copper nacelle
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pv nerf is terrible

cunning lagoon
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yeah

compact sedge
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ok I was wondering because I switched branches and was still on the same version

cunning lagoon
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yeah i dont think i got an update yet

floral furnace
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oh wait i misread that GWchadThink

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its still the same beta branch version for you?

compact sedge
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since the non-beta version finally has identical assemblies between OSes I'm not gonna be using beta this time. I only used it before to get that.

floral furnace
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PV was uneeded, Uumuu was downright excessive

cunning lagoon
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ye

nimble lake
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Any more mods updated?

copper nacelle
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i've been trying markoth hitless for longer than pv and nkg radiant combined

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not that nkg took any time but echh

compact sedge
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once gradow updates the xml file the installer should have nothing but updated mods.

solemn rivet
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I did tho

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wtf

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y

compact sedge
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doesn't randomizer 2 break tho

rare barn
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yeah it does

compact sedge
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and what about player data tracker

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did anyone even test that

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or charming

rare barn
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charming fails to load

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just tested

copper nacelle
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cause hooks moved

compact sedge
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yeah hooks now in modding api

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can you also test enemy rando and f strength for nail arts?

copper nacelle
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@ttaco

solemn rivet
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got it, it's an updater error as I suspected

rare barn
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enemy randomizer loads

compact sedge
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does it work?

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do you have the ram to even test that?

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it takes a really stupidly beefy system

copper nacelle
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ehhh

rare barn
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16 gigs, think I have enough

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will test now

compact sedge
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(also requires quite a bit of vram so hope your gpu is gud)

copper nacelle
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serialize the fsms and only load them when the enemy spawns stay woke

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idk

rare barn
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wait is loading

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does this mess up my main file?

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even if I don't enter it with this mod?

copper nacelle
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no

solemn rivet
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done, AA

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try again

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fixed the autoupdater

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should update once, and that's it

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I was literally missing a single /

rare barn
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Enemy Randomizer works, fired up a new game and everyone was that boss in the watchtower in CoD

solemn rivet
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File.Copy(path + @"/lol.exe", path + @"/" + Path.GetFileName(name), true); was File.Copy(path + @"/lol.exe", path + Path.GetFileName(name), true);

rare barn
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City of Dreams, that is, not Call of Duty

copper nacelle
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city of dreams

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more like

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city of tears

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hhhhhhhhh

rare barn
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oh shit I'm stupid

copper nacelle
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same

rare barn
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yeah

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forgot the name

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@compact sedge Enemy Randomizer works

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ummm @solemn rivet I found a bug in the modinstaller

solemn rivet
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sure

rare barn
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when you press uninstall on a mod and then say 'No' it uninstalls anyway

solemn rivet
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is it zote?

rare barn
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just a heads up

solemn rivet
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uh

copper nacelle
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nice

solemn rivet
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oh, it doesn't

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it's just a visual glitch

rare barn
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oh I see

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whoops

solemn rivet
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nah, thank you

cunning lagoon
rare barn
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nice

solemn rivet
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who wants to guess at what that line was?

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two words

copper nacelle
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return

cunning lagoon
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ur mum

solemn rivet
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DLK got it

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too bad 56

copper nacelle
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gdi

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was the else not already there

solemn rivet
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nope

copper nacelle
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ree

solemn rivet
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becaue I'm a lazy pos

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I simply copypasted the code from the other installer

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and the other installer handled diff

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so I didn't need to deal with the else

copper nacelle
compact sedge
copper nacelle
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wtf is the white square

flat forum
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So, game applies Room Specific Filters?

solemn rivet
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ye

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modinstaller updated

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didn't bother changing ver number because

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ehhh

flat forum
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Can I take the Shader from the Void Title Screen and apply it to All Rooms?

solemn rivet
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tbh I should change ver numbering from 8.0.4 to 8.4

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I'm never using that middle number

rare barn
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but it looks cool

solemn rivet
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k

rare barn
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and all the other cool modders do it

compact sedge
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not room specific. it's done by checking for healthmanagers in your current scene. for some reason it fails on a few scenes but I'll need to debug that separately.

copper nacelle
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walls w/ health managers

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ez

compact sedge
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the white square is your time til your combo expires, the blue one is your progress to the next level. the square around the knight are supposed to be circles and idk why they appear that way

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no I mean it pauses on scenes it shouldn't pause on

copper nacelle
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enemies w/ healthmanagers that load in later

compact sedge
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in the first trial false knight and gorb

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possibly

rare barn
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hmm ModInstaller only works in offline mode now

solemn rivet
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only?

rare barn
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well

solemn rivet
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what if you close and open

compact sedge
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have you tried getting an internet connection? /s

rare barn
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if I retry, it boots, but I can't click any buttons

solemn rivet
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huh

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close and open

rare barn
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doesn't work

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weird

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wait, I will try to reset my internet

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brb

waxen wyvern
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whats PlayerDataTracker for? Has no readme

solemn rivet
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streaming

waxen wyvern
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ah k

rare barn
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didn't fix it

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if I exit the 'Offline Mode, Retry, Abort' window it works though

compact sedge
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tfw trying to test a mod but you're so bad at the game you can't even beat trial 1 with it.

copper nacelle
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is this god himself

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just do nkg radiant with it

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ez

compact sedge
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I never learned how to fight the nailmasters without cheese and guess what. combomod makes tanking chesse almost impossible.

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because every time you get hit your damage drops to about 30%

cunning lagoon
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nice

solemn rivet
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to? not by?

compact sedge
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to

hazy sentinel
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combo 0

solemn rivet
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wow

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that's harsh

compact sedge
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the multiplier in the top right is your damage multiplier

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and 1x is 30%

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if you do really good you can get to 10x

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which is 3x damage

cunning lagoon
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what about bosses that go invulnerable for long periods of time

copper nacelle
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wow still more than old nail

cunning lagoon
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like a certain big jellyfish

copper nacelle
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just hit the outside

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still a slash hit w/ a health manager

compact sedge
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yeah so basically my strat for this is I'm gonna need to do scene specific things for like 4 bosses

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for example for the two nailmasters when you kill the first one the combo bar needs to pause

cunning lagoon
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what about dung/white defender when he burrows

solemn rivet
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for dung, dd

compact sedge
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oh that won't matter they don't burrow long enough to be a problem

solemn rivet
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for white

compact sedge
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for nkg you're gonna have to use spells tho

cunning lagoon
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oh nice

solemn rivet
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tough luck

copper nacelle
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hit him as he comes up

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ez

compact sedge
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yeah I do that already tbh

rare barn
compact sedge
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this is so weird and not happening on my system and I have no idea why it's happening on yours

rare barn
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yeah it is

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especially because the previous version worked perfectly

solemn rivet
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something similar was happening on linux some time ago tho

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wasn't it, AA?

compact sedge
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uhhh well idk real offline mode was kinda messed up

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but it never appeared as offline mode when it was actually online until you added auto updating

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and when you did add auto updating I could click the x in the top right and it would go back to normal

solemn rivet
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yeah

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dunno what is causing it tbh

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k, try again opfez

rare barn
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k

copper nacelle
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k is terrible

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cmm

solemn rivet
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gay, try again 56

compact sedge
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É¥ is worse

copper nacelle
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die

rare barn
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nah, same thing happens

solemn rivet
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É¥ is def worse

copper nacelle
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u

solemn rivet
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did it update tho, opfez?

copper nacelle
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stop being average gradow smh

solemn rivet
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ur mum

hazy sentinel
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x̄

compact sedge
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well I'm nothing if not someone who loves jumping on bandwagons

rare barn
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I redownloaded from moddb, retry still doesn't work

copper nacelle
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gradow stop being mean to the population

solemn rivet
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but did it update, opfez?

rare barn
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what do you mean?

solemn rivet
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when you first run it

copper nacelle
rare barn
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no

hazy sentinel
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top 10 pictures before quit to menu uninstall hk

solemn rivet
rare barn
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it doesn't make another file when I launch it, so I guess not?

solemn rivet
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but is it 8.0.5?

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also, anyone have any idea why this would cause the offline mode shenanigans: cs try { dllist = XDocument.Load("https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1HN5P35vvpFcjcYQ72XvZr35QxD09GUwh"); } catch (Exception) { ConnectionFailedForm form4 = new ConnectionFailedForm(this); form4.Closed += Form4_Closed; Hide(); form4.ShowDialog(); }

cunning lagoon
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elder hu is so stupid why is he allowed to go invulnerable a trillion times in a row

solemn rivet
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dunno

cunning lagoon
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give it a cooldown or something

compact sedge
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hey DL I thought you loved hu yesterday

cunning lagoon
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its so boring

rare barn
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hmm, it is 8.0.4

solemn rivet
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worst designed boss imo

cunning lagoon
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i dont love it its just very easy and boring

solemn rivet
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it's only barely better than galien

rare barn
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even if I redownloaded it from moddb

solemn rivet
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and that's saying something

compact sedge
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tbh that's how I felt. If you're good at the game it's slow af, if you're bad it's so easy to cheese with how much time you have to heal

cunning lagoon
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yeah...

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a 10 second cooldown on the attack would make it decent

solemn rivet
cunning lagoon
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56 u know what to do

hazy sentinel
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lol just cast abyss shriek and have him teleport after the first hit

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easy boss

copper nacelle
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buff him until he murders you ez

cunning lagoon
#

i felt pain

#

readint that

solemn rivet
#

no, remove all cooldowns

clear zealot
#

Does anyone know how to equip all charms in hollow knight

copper nacelle
#

lemme increase pain

solemn rivet
#

make it spam bell

copper nacelle
#

1.75x spikes

compact sedge
#

infinite notches mod?

cunning lagoon
#

stop

clear zealot
#

Do you have to hack the game?

compact sedge
#

yes

rare barn
#

oh now it works

solemn rivet
#

yes

rare barn
#

yay!

clear zealot
#

How do you hack it tho

hazy sentinel
#

game is a hack by itself

#

u seen the code

copper nacelle
#

i love falling into the pit below markoth

solemn rivet
#

have you ever watched a movie about alien invasion?

compact sedge
#

you gotta type really fast while staring at a console

solemn rivet
#

smh

#

^

#

and say "I'm in" with confidence

rare barn
#

It's a Unix system!

hazy sentinel
#

[hacker voice] i'm in

solemn rivet
copper nacelle
#

there

compact sedge
#

what is this membership thing

rare barn
#

for what?

copper nacelle
solemn rivet
#

rip

#

AA do you have a moddb acc?

compact sedge
#

yeah, I commented on the modinstaller

#

webbing10

rare barn
cunning lagoon
#

add 2.25x pufferfish on top of that

#

and its accurate

copper nacelle
#

yes

compact sedge
#

this is perfect

copper nacelle
#

spikes doesn't fit

hazy sentinel
#

wow dlk hasn't even beaten 20.25x speed nkg what a casul

cunning lagoon
#

spike

copper nacelle
#

yes

#

only one needs to impale you

cunning lagoon
#

its just one big spike that covers the whole screen

copper nacelle
#

yes

#

how much health does phase 2 markoth have wtf

solemn rivet
#

infty-1

copper nacelle
#

i'm going to go read the fsm

#

level488

hazy sentinel
#

hi going to go read the fsm

#

im scenic

copper nacelle
#

u

solemn rivet
#

should we bother mys to bother benji to bother leth to tweet the installer?

cunning lagoon
#

yes

copper nacelle
cunning lagoon
#

what is rage check

hazy sentinel
#

b

copper nacelle
compact sedge
#

nah let's bother verulean to bother mys to bother benji to bother leth.

solemn rivet
#

good idea

cunning lagoon
#

to bother the guy who actually manages the twitter account

solemn rivet
#

do it veru

compact sedge
#

inb4 it's graig and it's a plot to get us to put our mods on moddb

copper nacelle
#

it gets the hp

#

multiplies it by 2

#

and then stores it as rage hp

#

wtf

solemn rivet
#

they are, but sometimes tc forgets that

#

e.g. hazard damage

copper nacelle
#

ok so it's at half hp

cunning lagoon
#

of course the gpz adds have more than 13 health

#

why wouldnt they

#

fuck all bindings

solemn rivet
#

easy, just neglect zote

cunning lagoon
#

maybe ill neglect ur mom

compact sedge
#

So uh I have two questions: why is rando2 (lifeblood) still in the installer?

What if you could click a button in the installer to go to the google drive?

solemn rivet
#
  1. because sean is updating it
#
  1. y
copper nacelle
#

why does this guy have 5 fsms

#

6

solemn rivet
#

cause tc loves markoth, obvs

copper nacelle
#

7

#

if you count the title

compact sedge
#
  1. ok
  2. huh fair point. I just want the moddb people to know there's a lot more mods than on the db (or even in the installer). maybe linking to it in the moddb description might be a better idea idk.
copper nacelle
#

he does the rage check when he takes damage

#

then waits .7-1.5 seconds

#

so you have .7 seconds to kill him if you hate p2

#

ez

#

or do it during the dshield circle thing somehow

hazy sentinel
#

.7 seconds to deplete half his hp?

copper nacelle
#

yes

hazy sentinel
#

nice

#

dlk get on it

compact sedge
#

ez

cunning lagoon
#

dslash and fluke him twice

compact sedge
#

should have made it only 0.4 seconds

copper nacelle
#

wait should i try fluke

#

that's not a half bad idea

solemn rivet
#

good idea AA

copper nacelle
#

does fluke have damage taken events

#

it's weird

solemn rivet
#

do you have a moddb acc? I can add you to the modding group

copper nacelle
#

it should right

compact sedge
#

I'm webbing10

#

I commented on the mod

#

I have the contra 3 icon

solemn rivet
#

got it

#

invite sent

compact sedge
#

(one of my favorite games of all time from 14)

copper nacelle
#

how much hp does markoth have

#

like 800 right

cunning lagoon
#

700 on p5

copper nacelle
#

haha yes

cunning lagoon
#

which may be higher or lower than his health on hog

copper nacelle
#

ok so it's like 740 w/ nail4

compact sedge
#

650 on panth 5

copper nacelle
compact sedge
#

wait is it 700?

cunning lagoon
#

its exactly 705

copper nacelle
#

idk so if it's like a 25% boost it's like 900

compact sedge
#

oh it is I'm blind

#

and was looking at the wrong thing

#

yeah 705

copper nacelle
#

holy fuck

#

i have a lot of tabs open rn

solemn rivet
#

added gdrive link to description

copper nacelle
#

more than usual

#

which is saying something

compact sedge
solemn rivet
compact sedge
#

let's incorporate

cunning lagoon
#

is that 212 tabs

copper nacelle
#

yes

cunning lagoon
#

do me a favor and close every single one of them

#

thanks

hazy sentinel
#

no today's the 212th of august

solemn rivet
#

done

compact sedge
#

do me a favor and just click the x on the window so they all close at once and do it with htop open so you see your ram usage drop by 50GB

solemn rivet
cunning lagoon
#

????

copper nacelle
#

just remove the https ez

compact sedge
#

wait how does that work but the other thing didn't

copper nacelle
#

ok so you can get 8 flukes i guess

#

640 damage

#

who needs phase 2

solemn rivet
#

description =/= summary

copper nacelle
#

2 flukes and he p2ed on me

#

wtf

hazy sentinel
copper nacelle
#

ok so 2 flukes + full soul = phase 2

#

so i can spam flukes

#

and win

#

e z

cunning lagoon
#

you ever just stagger dung defender and he goes oob zote

copper nacelle
#

it's if you stagger him underground right?

solemn rivet
#

yes

cunning lagoon
#

yeah i hit him right as he unburrowed

solemn rivet
#

also I once dive'd dung def and it broke the dive fsm

copper nacelle
#

god tier coding

solemn rivet
#

it stopped doing damage till I s+q

hazy sentinel
#

there's also the chance where the lag of opening menu for scream skip phases him underground

cunning lagoon
#

he eventually comes back

#

thankfully

hazy sentinel
#

definitely check it

copper nacelle
#

no don't

cunning lagoon
#

damn that shadoe guy really hates absrad

#

he hasnt stopped complaining about her since release

copper nacelle
cunning lagoon
#

yes

#

click it

copper nacelle
#

gotta do ram before and after

#

10.9/15.9 (69%)

hazy sentinel
#

nice

copper nacelle
#

it's still dropping

#

7.4/15.9

#

@compact sedge there's your ram

compact sedge
#

nice

copper nacelle
#

why does this have so many votes

solemn rivet
copper nacelle
solemn rivet
#

and then they have the gull to say we're memest

cunning lagoon
#

true

copper nacelle
#

yes

hazy sentinel
#

so uhh

#

never noticed this because steam has the omega homo

copper nacelle
#

nice

cunning lagoon
#

smh

hazy sentinel
#

makes u think

solemn rivet
#

wait wut

#

what the explody bois called

hazy sentinel
#

ooma

cunning lagoon
#

ooma

solemn rivet
#

oh right

#

same difference

hazy sentinel
copper nacelle
#

@ flavor savior no

hexed swan
#

so what did they do to uumuu exactly

supple sigil
#

has anyone

#

figured out

copper nacelle
#

no u

supple sigil
#

all the health changes for the HoG

cunning lagoon
#

i have the health for the bosses in p5 if you want it ¯_(ツ)_/¯

hazy sentinel
supple sigil
#

nah for the HoG since i need it for the wiki page etc

cunning lagoon
#

right

hexed swan
#

does AR do 4 masks

#

yikes

copper nacelle
#

no

hexed swan
#

3?

cunning lagoon
#

attuned is 2 masks ascended is 4

hexed swan
#

wait is that guy just dumb cornywoke

cunning lagoon
#

whomst

hazy sentinel
#

it's on steam

copper nacelle
#

he just has 6 masks

#

clearly

cunning lagoon
#

oh i ddint read that

hexed swan
#

nice

supple sigil
#

ascended is all masks

hexed swan
#

wrong

hazy sentinel
supple sigil
#

wait

#

no

#

radiant*

hexed swan
#

radiant dungo

supple sigil
#

soz

hexed swan
#

radiant radiance hollowwoke

compact sedge
#

can I ask a question

supple sigil
#

ascended is 4 masks for absrad and all other 2 maskers

compact sedge
#

do you really need to do ToF for it?

supple sigil
#

for what

cunning lagoon
#

ascended is just double damage

#

from every source

hexed swan
#

panth 3 takes godtamer

cunning lagoon
#

so if you fall into a pit you take 2 masks

supple sigil
#

to get god tamer in hog and panth 3?

cunning lagoon
#

for example

supple sigil
#

yes

hexed swan
#

actually panth 3 just has the homo in general tbh

supple sigil
#

panth 3 wont unlock without god tamer

compact sedge
#

wait so if you haven't fought the bosses in game you can't do the panth with them?

#

with the exception of panth 5 I guess?

hexed swan
#

yeah you need to have killed the bosses

supple sigil
#

yeah

#

you can do panth 5 without beating NKG

hexed swan
#

because obvious

compact sedge
#

what about GPZ

#

in panth 3 or whatever one he's in

hexed swan
#

is gpz in 5?

cunning lagoon
#

he doesnt show up

supple sigil
#

gpz is in 5

median frigate
#

How I mod hk?

compact sedge
#

wait so panth 3 is straight up easier if you killed zote

hazy sentinel
cunning lagoon
#

so if you neglect you dont fight gpz

supple sigil
#

yes you need to beat GPZ to unlock 5 p sure

cunning lagoon
#

according to graig, i havent tried it

compact sedge
#

so you only have 9 fights?

supple sigil
#

also yeah if you neglect no more GPZ

hexed swan
#

you don't need to beat gpz for panth 5 i imagine

#

wait really

copper nacelle
#

ye

hexed swan
#

he just doesn't show up?

copper nacelle
#

ye

supple sigil
#

but if you neglect you can still do eternal ordeal for some reason

hexed swan
#

dude nice

compact sedge
#

wtf why are the trials timed if you can straight up remove bosses from them

#

what kinda bs is that

supple sigil
#

no idea

hexed swan
#

the trials aren't timed

compact sedge
#

also why does the timer run during the bench rooms

#

I mean the panths

#

sorry

hexed swan
#

mem

#

e.

compact sedge
#

also why does the timer run when the bosses are screaming and you literally can't hit them

#

why doesn't it just run during the fights themselves

supple sigil
#

too much effor

#

t

hazy sentinel
#

TC encouraging scream skip

compact sedge
#

can we make a mod to make the timer less dumb tbh?

hazy sentinel
#

open your eyes sheeple

hexed swan
#

woke

supple sigil
#

can we just remove timer

#

tbh

compact sedge
#

it's kinda pointless if you can literally skip bosses

hexed swan
#

one boss

compact sedge
#

by not having fought them

hexed swan
#

tbf

compact sedge
#

one boss but that boss shows up in two trials

supple sigil
#

one boss that takes like one more minute

solemn rivet
#

zoteless%

cunning lagoon
#

also its a long boss

compact sedge
#

hey when it comes to WRs that 1 minute is a huge amount of time

solemn rivet
#

no, it's only long in the eternal ordeal

#

turret zote

hexed swan
compact sedge
#

if you don't kill zote: you unlock a cool new challenge
if you do kill zote: you unlock the ability to go for WR panth completions.

supple sigil
#

also like why did tc not add new journal entries for the new zotelings and winged nosk

compact sedge
hazy sentinel
cunning lagoon
#

doesnt the game tell you the bosses you need to beat

hexed swan
#

it does

cunning lagoon
solemn rivet
#

it does

hexed swan
#

i think collector is above godtamer

#

iirc

supple sigil
#

so if you save zote

solemn rivet
#

and hog even tells you where to find them

supple sigil
#

you need to do GPZ

cunning lagoon
#

tbf steam forums are like

#

worse than reddit

#

and reddit is bad

solemn rivet
#

yeah molamola

supple sigil
#

in order to access panth

#

nice

solemn rivet
#

but if you neglect

supple sigil
#

thats bad cause then why ever save

hexed swan
#

don't try to understand it

solemn rivet
#

ez panth

compact sedge
#

save zote: unlock endless ordeal
kill zote: save lots of time

hexed swan
#

arguably less fun panth though

supple sigil
#

why go through the rng of GPZ in panth 5 when you can like not

#

eternal ordeal is open anyways afaik

hexed swan
#

^

solemn rivet
#

do you need to save zote for enless ordeal?

supple sigil
#

even if neglect

compact sedge
#

wait really?

supple sigil
#

someone needs to check

hexed swan
#

no reason to block it like that since it's already quite well hidden

supple sigil
#

but i heard that its open anyways

compact sedge
#

wtf fuck zote then. annoys town, steals bretta, ruins WRs

supple sigil
#

they might change it

copper nacelle
#

no aa

#

wr requires zote

solemn rivet
#

depends

#

we now have 2 categories

copper nacelle
#

the ILs require the new mode i think

solemn rivet
#

zoteless and zote

compact sedge
#

clearly the any% doesn't

hexed swan
#

zoteless%

solemn rivet
#

tbh

hazy sentinel
supple sigil
compact sedge
#

also I just had a realization. You can have never encountered ANY of the bosses from the 4th panth

supple sigil
#

meaning you can do panth 5 without NKG

compact sedge
#

and still do the 4th panth

solemn rivet
#

wr is prolly done in that new gamemode, which I forget

compact sedge
#

by doing the first 3

#

and then starting a new game in GM mode

copper nacelle
#

doesn't 4th unlock it

compact sedge
#

no 3rd does

copper nacelle
#

or am i high

cunning lagoon
#

but 112% fights the pantheons

copper nacelle
#

wow nice

cunning lagoon
#

so it would be better to neglect in 112%

copper nacelle
#

112 + all bosses

#

now

#

i think

hazy sentinel
#

intended%

compact sedge
#

I want a GM% where you race to unlock GM mode.

supple sigil
#

cant you just 112% regular ending

#

rather than a new one

compact sedge
#

I wanna see how you'd route that

supple sigil
#

with panth 5

solemn rivet
#

yeah, 112% is better to neglect

#

imagine the future gdq

copper nacelle
#

112 requires gpz\

#

dungo

solemn rivet
#

"save the zote vs kill the zote"

compact sedge
#

wut no

solemn rivet
#

oh yeah

copper nacelle
#

wut yes

supple sigil
#

no?

#

wat

#

how

compact sedge
#

zote is worth no percentages

cunning lagoon
#

why would it require gpz

copper nacelle
#

wr by breaking the rules is a good idea

supple sigil
#

lamo

cunning lagoon
#

that seems very arbitrary

supple sigil
#

but

compact sedge
#

yeah

cunning lagoon
#

why is that a thing

compact sedge
#

what dl said

copper nacelle
#

cause it's 112 + all bosses

young walrus
#

b/c then it's 112 all bosses

solemn rivet
#

let's raid speedrunning and shit all over them

cunning lagoon
#

then why isnt it called that

void tree
#

let's not gradow

supple sigil
#

112% is just 4 new bosses and godtuner

solemn rivet
compact sedge
#

tbf all speedrunning categories except any% are arbitrary

supple sigil
#

why cant you just

#

112% and then just dream no more

cunning lagoon
#

im not saying zote shouldn't be required

solemn rivet
#

AA u right

cunning lagoon
#

but if he is going to be required, it should be called 112% all bosses

compact sedge
#

weed% is my favorite legend of zelda speedrun

hazy sentinel
young walrus
#

b/c there's new bosses in p5

unborn badger
#

@copper nacelle fsm

copper nacelle
#

u

young walrus
#

it's not 112

compact sedge
#

dank%

#

sorry

young walrus
#

it's 112 all bosses

void tree
#

^

young walrus
#

and that pantheon ends the game anyways

compact sedge
solemn rivet
#

makes sense if it's 112 all bosses

#

to be tbh

compact sedge
#

yeah

cunning lagoon
#

yeah

hazy sentinel
cunning lagoon
#

it's called 112% in sr.com which is what confused me

compact sedge
#

was the 107% also all bosses?

solemn rivet
#

which panths count to % btw?

#

1-4?

cunning lagoon
#

1-4

copper nacelle
#

107 didn't exist

cunning lagoon
#

and godtuner

copper nacelle
#

106 wasn't all bosses

young walrus
#

107 never happened

void tree
#

there was never a 107%, so no

compact sedge
#

I mean 106%

solemn rivet
#

so

void tree
#

nah 106% wasn't all bosses

copper nacelle
#

the categories merged w/ 112

solemn rivet
#

if it wasn't all bosses, 112% wouldn't even need panth5

copper nacelle
#

yes

supple sigil
#

wait if you do all bosses can you choose to do the NKG in panth 5

#

and not the one in DM?

copper nacelle
#

yes

young walrus
#

yes

supple sigil
#

huh k

young walrus
#

you would banish

void tree
#

yes, that's why they banish

young walrus
#

still need the percent

solemn rivet
#

huh

supple sigil
#

nice

solemn rivet
#

interesting

cunning lagoon
#

but grimmchild though zote

supple sigil
#

who even needs it

#

all you need is the boss

young walrus
#

wow rude

hazy sentinel
supple sigil
#

but but

copper nacelle
#

one's 190 and one's like 500

#

right?

supple sigil
#

has anyone figured out the health in the HoG

cunning lagoon
#

fun fact the second oblobble doesn't heal to full, at least not in the panth5

supple sigil
#

if so ping me

cunning lagoon
#

he heals for 200 hp

compact sedge
#

I just realized. 112% all bosses

#

does not require 2 bosses

#

radiance or THK

solemn rivet
#

o

supple sigil
#

yeah

solemn rivet
#

shhhhh

#

don't let them know you figured this out

supple sigil
#

so then just 112% ending E or F

#

+GPZ cause he's weird

hazy sentinel
#

E or F 🤔

young walrus
hazy sentinel
copper nacelle
#

3⃣ ºr hollowf

young walrus
#

"there's been new notches for every dlc"

#

uh....

#

nope

copper nacelle
#

usually is 1/2

young walrus
#

HD: no
GT: yes
Lifeblood: no
Godmaster: no

#

1/4

#

is all of em

hazy sentinel
#

there haven't been any released DLCs for hollow knight intenseface

supple sigil
#

prolly ending E

#

ending F is too much work

hazy sentinel
#

what is ending F

young walrus
#

wtf you on about

supple sigil
#

delicate flower

young walrus
#

there's only 5 endings

copper nacelle
#

is this the smartest man alive

cunning lagoon
#

he means ending e