#archived-modding-development
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i just ddark lul
pure vessel is great
andddd that too 
it's what thk should've been
but but lore
yeah
yup
shitty thk makes pv that much better
no infection
nice
but how is he roaring to begin with 😩
deep lore
it's the sound of the infection leaving him
this is some fucking deep lore shit thx fromsoft
No cost too great.
No mind to think.
No will to break.
No voice to cry suffering.
like those things people claim to scream when you heat them
yeah i forgot the knights are mute
it's the sound that's made when your favorite anime doesn't get a second season
but it's just air/vapor escaping
i wish godseeker changed in the bg depending on mode
so youre saying is when you dont get the 2nd season of your fave anime your father decides to drop you into a pit with the rest of your brothers yeah that makes sense
what if i misclicked and didnt know

same
nice view
i thought you said you already hitlessed pv tho
so i cant do the best fight more than once huh
seriously seeing him NOT 2handing his nail feels wrong tbh
yes
but they don't change at all
can you get out in time if pv starts white circle while youre in him
so it's like pure nail wk hitless
feels like you cant
but they have more health
oh idk about ddark but w/ nail for sure you can
i think you cant
you might be able to double jump and get out
like go up instead of the side
idk how far up it goes
woke
sharpshadow is pretty much the greatest charm in the fight
shar pshadow is never the greatest charm
probs get dashmaster and sprintmaster
objective truth
i can't stand the changing dash length
sprintmaster is good tho ngl
the dash length is the best part
the damage is just a bonus
at least it's 1 notch i'll give it that
i bet theres some sharp shadow legend out there
sharp shadow is actually good for pop
boi u are so wrong
i'll ❌ ur ass

it actually sucks for every other room though
can yall update qol mod to skip hog starting cutscenes thanks
^
yeah but you save that sweet 0.5653243 mili second for the speedrun
more like 4 seconds
it should skip it fine
well unless you REALLY want that WR or something then that 4 second sounds radder than radiant radiance tbh
DL how many hours do you have in this game
i mean if i learn the fast cycle in the first room i'll 100% beat monstah's time
275
although i have no idea how he does it
wow that's not as many as I expected
whats that
double spike rainbow?
Sheo?
Thou cringer
on pv?
yes
the void tendrils?
no the spike rainbow
you mean his augur of ebrietas attack
or do you mean his soul burst?
ur mum darts
darts sounds good
where he blows up the fucking room
yeah but ive been consistently mistiming the second one
oof
big gay timed shade dash after 2nd darts but parries and not shade dash
yeah just make the spikes go up constantly every 3 seconds or something yeah that would work
wow is this nightmare god pure vessel
yes and after 2.4k dmg a second pv shows up
make those soul bursts happen all the time
so when is kdt making nightmare god pv
what if NGG had double pufferfish sections that were slightly offset?
can you delete this
i want to do that tbh
help i've clicked ascended instead of radiant twice in a row
@copper nacelle ^ is this u
no
ok
pogoing the uppercut is the coolest looking thing ever and I'm still learning how to do it
change that to 1.75x spikes and it's a yes
but whenever I do it for real I'm so happy
i read that and i feel paIN


So it's probably gonna be a while until we have an updated API, I assume?
how do i do god tamer
🤔
you kinda just ignore the rider
i do
if the beast rolls you pogo her like the watcher knight
and it bounces really high when it hits the wall so you can walk below it if you want or whatever
i just ddark spam it
yes also that
something something sharp shadow
no
no
when are you labbing first room for free wr
tbh if I can cheese it I just cheese it with qslash and fstrength
that's my lpt if you can cheese it cheese it if you can't learn how to dodge it.
the first room cycle
first is impossible
no clue what monstah does differently
i always get there when the saws at peak
yeah i just feel like i do it the same way as him
you have to beat the first saw to beat the second one
the first moving saw i mean
the cycle he gets isnt even tight
yes thgat's what i dont get
i think its heavily wingmould dependent
i cant even make it and he makes it with spare time
those guys are so trash
i think its the last wingmould before the shortcut
i haven't checked yet
maybe pogo too high no clue
yeah you have to cancel your jump there with the dash
i mean the height you get from the pogo
not jump
but the wingmoulds always over the gap
also ideally you'd like to avoid the wall before said wingmould
you can make it from the previous one but im not sure if it's rng
it probably is, those guys are dicks
oh
he pogos with wings
so its basically just slower wings
gains really no extra height
i think my deal is going back to the first saw
when he goes straight to moulds
that jump looks tight
idk the only 2 rooms that i have practiced with ss are the small tunnels and the last one
i tried using saw room optimization strats but realized theyre useless
the small tunnels are trash
yeah
i dont do dashmaster
you probably should
so i can barely make quick cycle on second
how do you make the cycle without dashmaster
i just do
wow
do you have a video of your run
my times prob closer to a 2:5x
no
i dont count crumble cause i just run on a file where i havent watched
crumble is like 2-3s?
uhh more like 1-2
i also dont have inv drop 
oh rip
too lazy to downpatch
also something to note is
i was playing on 1315 for the sharp shadow thing
on the last room
but you know the thing on the room before that where you pogo on the saw
i get that every time on 1221 but on 1315 i wasnt able to make it
shriek skip?
i might just be going crazy but i think the cycles are different
no
right at the beginning of that room
the saw was always at a different spot
oh
it worries me because if the cycles are actually different
then that menas that im gonna have to change the sharp shadow thing because it wouldnt work 
and im consistent at it
sometimes
ok then its just me
yeah mop helps a lot in general
i don't think the fast cycle in the last room is possible without mop
uhh i have shaman stone dashmaster mop sharp shadow
and fluke
you can change dashmaster or ss for whatever
can overcharm anyways
if you dont like them
trash if not hitless
yeah that's overcharmed
tbh ive done pop hitless like once
i actually take 2 hits against the knights on my pb 
so your 2:40 is not hitless?
mons takes 1
yeah one to each knight
my 2:40 is a lie
big think
prob shoulda installed inf pop
when the igt timer stops
but too late now
what is inf pop
i thought 56 said inf pop was a thing
oh
yeah that's part of QoL
you think skipping the second wall is faster here
it even restarts the door and the breakable floor
it's not an infinite gauntlet
perhaps
true
i also need to learn how to do this
because i always use the saw on the left 
i did it a few times its not too bad
right
well it might depend on how fast you make it
is cycle just slightly faster
if monstah makes it faster than you he needs the shriek to waste time
oh yeah i prob make it there slower than monstah
but if you make it a bit later you just make the saw
so that room doesnt need to be good 
pretty much
ty cycles
im convinced that the normal route is faster if you have ss
because shriek strats are similar to the normal route, speedwise
i should probably time it tbh but im lazy
on a good cycle i feel even without ss its pretty close
ye thats what i mean
just do like first mould straight to third or smth
also i think he didn't even need to use shriek at all
same
but it looks cool
nice timeloss
lol
2:29.2 was free
ruined
garbage
at this point my biggest concern is the first room
wow my first room hella trash compared to monstah
ye same
i just wish i knew what exactly im doing wrong
i jump off the wall the moment i stick to it
and that's about it how else can you go faster
the first few walls?
yeah
like if you don't make the first moving saw like he does
just accept death because you are not making the second one
but thats free
except when i choke the third jump like 8 times in a row
is 1424 sprintmaster pop viable 
prob faster than 1315 pop 
yup

we almost made fast cycle
clearly tas tbh
he's not human that's for sure
i believe he only has mop
robot
just disrespectful tbh
actually offensive
yeah spell twister wouldn't really help since the knights die in like 2 flukes anyway
or 2 flukes and a nail hit
but you can do 4 flukes instantly 
although i believe i use spell twister in my pb 
free .1s timesave
but its not
can i stop using dashmaster
not if you want to go fast
its so inconsistent
how is dashmaster inconsistent
idk garbage kb
🤔
its tc
literally everything in the pop is consistent
except for that
well and the knights i guess
pretty sure they moved every cycle in runs a little ahead
like cpeak cycle
a qga cdash
those are impossible on 1315
wtf really
prob on current too
i bet the cdash at the start of wp is worse too
that was rng
on 1221
so they went out of their way to make things worse for speedrunners?
or am i misunderstanding
soemthing
prob
wow
https://youtu.be/gq19Z2pLrQw?t=28m36s tell me if you can make this cycle on gm
Just updating my time, since it's been a while. Might improve it more, got a lot of time to save in the later parts of the run.
highly rude
i couldnt on 1315
i probably cant but thats because im bad
you just cant because the cycle was moved
wow
Finally got the World Record in any% NMG -- Watch live at https://www.twitch.tv/vysualstv
you get hit by the green dude on current
what that's such a random bullshit change
right
lol
https://youtu.be/WcVVPW38Fz0?t=1h12s this boi right here
This is probably the last pb I get in 106%, gonna wait for Gods & Glory now. Thumbnail's and timer's background was made by the amazing hollow~berry! Please ...
why is it faster?
what is this invincibility glitch I've been hearing about?
does he ever die
what
aww
it's kinda cool how everyone just fights nkg and radiance in 106
even though you dont have to
if you dont you gay
of course

all mods dead new update
YES
ABSOLUTE UNIT
where i can find godmasters mask?
yes
Gimme Godmaster sprite? please
Has anyone beaten 5th Pantheon in Godseeker mode?
any info on the new version API?
hmpf
there's a list of boss order in pantheon 5?
I crashed at lost kin and want to know how much I should punch my monitor
yup
RIP
3/4 of the way
yeah lost kin is like early panth4
is uber radiance right after pure vessel or are there some bosses in between
right after pv
damn
you get healed so dont worry about that
I wish I had met her so I could practise her in the hall of gods
wanna see the list?
Da
I have no clue if Da stands for Yes or No
it's russian
o Boss order: Vengefly King (two at once), Gruz Mother (floor is split into platforms separated by spikes), False Knight, Massive Moss Charger, Hornet 1, GODSEEKER 1, Gorb (large platform replaced by three smaller ones), Dung Defender, Soul Warrior 2 (unlike Pantheon of the Master, this one spawns Follies), Brooding Mawlek (raised central platform is removed), Nailmasters Oro & Mato, BENCH, Xero (large platform replaced by three smaller ones), Crystal Guardian, Soul Master, Oblobbles, Sisters of Battle (all three Mantis Lords attack at the same time), BENCH, Marmu (smaller arena, walls and ceiling covered in thorns), Flukemarm, Broken Vessel, Galien, Paintmaster Sheo, BENCH, Hive Knight, Elder Hu, The Collector, God Tamer, Troupe Master Grimm, BENCH, GODSEEKER 2 (Unn), Watcher Knight, Uumuu (acid pools are replaced with damaging clouds of fog), Winged Nosk (mimics Hornet, flies, spawns Infected Balloons), Great Nailsage Sly, Hornet 2, BENCH, Enraged Guardian, Lost Kin, No Eyes (different platforms, arena surrounded by thorns), Traitor Lord, White Defender, BENCH, GODSEEKER 3 (White Lady), Soul Tyrant, Markoth (arena is a set of five aerial platforms), Grey Prince Zote, Failed Champion, Nightmare King Grimm, BENCH, GODSEEKER 4 (Pale King), Pure Vessel, Absolute Radiance
who appears instead of grey prince zote if you never saved zote?
i think its still zote tbh
same thing with nkg
since its a dream and all that crap it doesnt matter whatever happens outside of it
because I didn't fight grey prince zote in any of the 1-4 pantheons
So you fight then anyways if you banish or kill Zote?
what really
yep
Nope
If you don't save zote he doesn't appear
I was wondering when he would appear on my savefile
well i know who im not saving im my playthroughs from now on
what about nkg then?
Not accessible if I'm right in the god hall
But he should also not appear then
There is no statue of Zote for example in my save file except for Eternal Ordeal
I think going Neglect + Banishment is the best
never banish
I did it for an achievement ;_;
neglect + ritual + flower to elderbug + save the nailsmith + don't kill the unn moss knight or the menderbug
nice
not so much? 🤔
if you kill him.... he ded
Ah, guess I was wrong then
Yeah Zote doesn't appear for me
So I got that going for me
always kill zote
bretta never meets him, GPZ is never born
L O R E
Mickely just told you the answer, Always kill Zote.
Tall Zote tho
eat zote
lewd
become the vengefly king
just go and do them hitless lol
I did, using cheats
and I'm not sure if it did do anything
but in the same place the save records every bind you've done, it also records if you've done the panth hitless or not
can anyone help me to setup a hack mod
what do you want to do?
i want to increase my nails damage
Debug mod doh
how can i apply it
Downpatch
save edit to be tbh
That too
save edit is better for that
I couldn't get the jar to fucking run the other day
what mods i must dowload for that
The save editor is in pins in this channel
k thanks
doesn't always work
Well it wasn't working at all for me. Tried to run it like 3 different ways
wait how the heck does that one work?
drag your save onto it, it spits out a json
edit the json using text editor
drag json to it, it spits out a dat
that's the one I use
it crashed
what crashed
him, he was on a sugar high
Happened to me too, had to uninstall mods and verify game files before HK worked again
mods won't work with gm for a while to be tbh
Yup
i ll try thx
But I thought it was worth trying in case some modder had no life
how can i edit my save
m8
m9
wdym
That is only for if you were unable to start HK again
sorry i can't speak Englist too much can you speak openly
sure it made me redo the panth twice, but still
how can i do it
consider using save editor by kdt
in edit the json file and set the nail damage 210 but it is same
there's a link somewhere, try searching it up in #archived-modding-development
is the dat in your saves folder
yes
Then what are you trying to get into?
that is literally the door to panth5 m8
how do people beat Panth5
by killing all the bosses
answer me this then
because too effort
how does one come up with a way to make Uumuu even worse than it was before?
Oh
because TC did just that and I can't fathom how
by not only makong you wait to attack
but also getting hit when attacking 90% of the time
they're very skilled
that's a skill for sure
where is it?
I sure hope will is not reading this chat rn
it's almost amazing as "56 can't get Zote screen because 57 Zotes > 56" jokes
o will is online rn
so...?
What does inspecting that give you
so what is this?
no one knows
also I'd like API for Godmaster to take more screenshots of places
Inspect it and tell us
as you can clearly tell
it is not my screen
Whose is it?
.....the internet's
I'm trying to figure out why rider is weird and then I can try to build an api
rider is being really dumb rn and I cannot for the life of me figure out why
huh well I don't really have the tools to dump sprites outside of with code
I'm on mobile rn, can anyone use asset studio or something to find that thing in the screenshot?
If not, I'll try to get it when I have the time
Will the 1.4.2.4 debug menu come soon?
Hey, I have an idea for mod!
Eternal Ordeal Remixes
All music but it replaced with Zote singing
hey guys does anyone have sprite sheet rips for godmaster yet?
hey guys does anyone have this sprite?
I only have the recreation of it in the final fight
i changed the nails damage to 10000 but in only nail challenge it doesnt work, anyone can tll me why is it
How'd you manage to edit it?
save editor
^
actually it makes you do more damage if you have a level 0 nail
also does anyone know if it is affected by fragile strength or not?
fr str. works as far as I've heard
ok
what can i do to ignore this
so 20 dmg
how can i setup debug mod
you can't
why
it's not updated
just don't bind your nail in the challenges, and the nail dmg in the save file changes should work fine
so, i can not do something to pass the only nail challenge , right?
what do you mean by nail only challenge
in the pantheon
Nail bindings in pantheon?
like AA said, binding your nail sets it to 13 dmg
yeah it sets it to 13 ignoring any nail upgrades so even if the debugmod was ported it wouldn't actually work
until debugmod gets hitinstance
k
also #archived-modding-help in future
in comes simo, slapping em while they're down. 
can someone give me savefile with all radiance statues ?
actually simo this channel has turned into GnG discussion and #archived-modding-help has turned into modding.
everything is chaos right now
help is a mess
modding is GNG
modding help is "why no mods yet"
For those who want the hourly update on where is my modding api I'm currently waiting for 56 to test something really weird that's happening with the new unity libraries
update every 30m thx
I'm just after a save editor that works with the current patch /shrug
haha yeah that makes sense
we've also had nearly 800 members join in past 48hrs
No just because you DMed me doesn't mean the API is suddenly ported.
but if i @ you will it be

Any updates?
also pulling the repo rn
You guys work super fast
yes
ANNOAAAAAAHHHHHH
h e ' s
d o n e
i t
SHARP SHADOW BOIS
also
holy shit
why is this in modding, lol
because
gbood question
DLK resides in modding
dlkurosh lives with us in modding
^
this is where he lives
grats kurosh, damn
thanks!
That a new record?
i already 112%ed everything
If so, congrats
thank you 
@compact sedge i'm stealing the vanilla folder thing thanks
by the way, 56
I'm not accepting any saves that don't have Nymm and Grimmchild 4 and everybody saved and safe and sound
56 help me fix pls IDK what I'm doing.
and Elderbug Flower
Nymm and Grimmchild 4 
what'd you do
just unityengine.dll
ok wtf see hear me out on this
I added that before and rider got stuck running mono-sgen
or whatever
it was just running constantly for like 1 hour and killing it caused rider to freeze
and now I add it and it works perfectly
"statueStateRadiance": {
"hasBeenSeen": true,
"isUnlocked": false,
"completedTier1": false,
"completedTier2": false,
"completedTier3": false,
"seenTier3Unlock": false,
"usingAltVersion": false
?
There's a statue of the Radiance?!
oh sweet jesus it builds hell yes
56
explain that pls
Yes, there is a Radiance statue
where?
oh I used vanilla mscorlib too
right side of godhome
Gotta get to it in the 5th panth
top
Behind the top doors in the hall
why do I have "seen"?
"u saw it in some DIscord Chat"
That's the interesting part to me
Huh
As far as I know, you can't fight normal Radiance in the Hall
usingAltVersion is part of a struct
should be there for all i think
but don't quote me
Ah
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/455231776248299520/482646601295462439/Assembly-CSharp.dll it's here y'all. modding api for godmaster but so early alpha that most of the hooks probably possibly don't work and also the extra damage from radiant and ascended bosses is broken too probably because of the DamageTakenHook.
thanks 56
How do replace sprites help pls
Yes but where's debug mode
good enough for cheating tho
Jk, nice work
also 56 if you send a pr to add monomod hooks to the modding api I'll insta-accept it
h a h a y e s
@karmic wyvern didn't you say you had dgate storage working tho
hhhhhhhh
the mode?
Yes
just save edit if you need ungodly health
I want to full clear it in case there's something new
ech
KDT's isn't up to date, and the one we talked about earlier in chat didn't work either
that's what I asked about just a sec ago
chain's one works fine
the one gradow linked
Whenever I dragged my .dat file onto it, nothing happened
Uuuh
Got the file selected
I can record what I'm doing if it'd help
Dragging it to the black screen
Like an idiot
Okay, I've got the json file. So I just open it, find health and crank it up however much I like then drag the file back to the editor, right?
Now to see if it worked
Also adjusted my blue health for good measure
Hmmm
Miiight not work with bindings
Okay, looks like bindings screw it up. Is it possible to spawn in with an unholy amount of blue health?
dunno
probably not
w/out a mod
did you set maxHealthBase and all
cause it's supposed to work w/ fragile heart
the bindings
I set health, maxHealth, maxHealthBase
And maxHealthCap
dreamgateMapPos
prevHealth is also set super high
I'll do that if I can't get the health increase to work with bindings
Alright I'm taking monomod hooks out of this new modcommon built for godmaster since I'm assuming 56 will help me put them back into the modding api.
Oh yeah also here's modcommon built for godmaster.
Is maxHealthMax the same as maxHealthCap?
¯_(ツ)_/¯
move commits like reordering commits?
Can't find the latter
no i mean i have the modcommon hooks on a repo in another folder
nvm maybe did it
did you push the fix for the thing to be tbh
ok I did now so you have a thing to work off of
well I pushed the modding api a while ago I think
and just now did the modcommon one
yeet
What does "prevHealth" control?
baldur shell



