archived-modding-development

[cunning lagoon]

because you can actually see her

[copper nacelle]

probably just gonna stick to spell builds for that section

unless i somehow get god at no eyes

[cunning lagoon]

play some pop to get better at platforming

perhaps beat my time

[copper nacelle]

reee

[burnt laurel]

hey sorry if this has already been answered or something

and i doubt they do

but do mods work with godmaster

like any of them

[compact sedge]

the API itself doesn't work

so even if mods are built for godmaster (which mine all are) it won't matter until that gets fixed and nobody even wants to fix the api

[burnt laurel]

thought as much

oh well

[cunning lagoon]

just end my life already

i died

[copper nacelle]

rip

[cunning lagoon]

she was like 2 or 3 hits away from death

[copper nacelle]

someone in #hk-discussion said they did it all binds

[cunning lagoon]

panth5?

[copper nacelle]

yes

invin apparently

large meme

[cunning lagoon]

do they have proof

[copper nacelle]

no

[cunning lagoon]

lol

oh i didnt tell you but i beat it all binds blindfolded jumpless

i forgot to record it though :/

[copper nacelle]

meme

[cunning lagoon]

🤔

[rustic stag]

In case anyone was wondering, nothing happens if you beat Absolute Radiance on Radiant difficulty.

[compact sedge]

pure vessel is harder than NKG

[cunning lagoon]

yeah i'd agree with that

[hazy sentinel]

pure vessel harnesses the power of RNG

[compact sedge]

rn I still think nkg is a better boss tbh

[hazy sentinel]

@copper nacelle mod that replaces uumuu in archives with radiant newmuu when

[copper nacelle]

might

[cunning lagoon]

mod that deletes newmuu from existence when

[compact sedge]

mod that turns every floating explodey jellyfish into a floating quirrel

[hazy sentinel]

mod that makes uumuu infinite but vulnerable except when quirrel hits it

[cunning lagoon]

wow someone should do that

[hazy sentinel]

ikr

[compact sedge]

gotta say tho never fought the new one before and new traitor lord is almost one of the best fights ever

[hazy sentinel]

how many times are you going to die to sisters of battle

[rustic stag]

Neat

[compact sedge]

I'll tell you once I get ther

[hazy sentinel]

smh hackermans

[compact sedge]

I'm grinding out pure vessel in practice mode

still can't beat it

[hazy sentinel]

gl

i'm clearing HoG attuned

[compact sedge]

hey science explain this:

Radiant pure vessel

[hazy sentinel]

he mind got god

scienced

[compact sedge]

oomg I did it

[copper nacelle]

radiant pure vessel is fun

[compact sedge]

it took me apparently... 35 minutes to barely beat once in practice mode but I bet if I hadn't done NKG it would have taken me around 5 hours

[copper nacelle]

now hitless it

[hazy sentinel]

now hitless markoth

[cunning lagoon]

not possible

56 complaining about no eyes when markoth was the true challenge all along

[copper nacelle]

markoth was way easier than no eyes wtf

[cunning lagoon]

hell no

no eyes is free

[copper nacelle]

*markoth

[cunning lagoon]

ur mom

[copper nacelle]

u

[hazy sentinel]

godmaster is free

[copper nacelle]

yes

[hazy sentinel]

u ever abyss shriek elder hu and he teleports after one hit

[copper nacelle]

yes

hate it when that happens tbh

[cunning lagoon]

alright panth5 done

fucking finally

[compact sedge]

radiant no eyes is dumb but noeyes in the pantheons is pretty easy

[hazy sentinel]

panth5 has ascended no eyes arena

[copper nacelle]

^

[compact sedge]

ohhhh

[warped sinew]

Radiant markoth shudder

[cunning lagoon]

stop

[warped sinew]

Though there is a great build

[hazy sentinel]

beat ascended no eyes first try what are you on about 56

[cunning lagoon]

for real no eyes is free as fuck

[copper nacelle]

dingo dongo

[foggy rose]

i got my dick chopped off by the pure vessel

[copper nacelle]

ur opinion is wrongo

[foggy rose]

ama

[copper nacelle]

unless you're using a spell build

[compact sedge]

I'm still not convinced I'll ever be able to do anything radiant besides NKG and TMG.

[copper nacelle]

in which case I agree

[cunning lagoon]

ur spell builds are stupid

[compact sedge]

oh actually maybe traitor lord

[copper nacelle]

u

[compact sedge]

since I'm finding them fun too

[cunning lagoon]

just smack her 5 times after each teleport

ez

[copper nacelle]

get hit by the projectiles into thorns ez

[cunning lagoon]

watch where the projectiles are going

since you can see the entire arena

unlike normal no eyes

[copper nacelle]

[hazy sentinel]

lol beat radiant no eyes second try

fell into thorns as she died

still counted

time to try markoth

[cunning lagoon]

time to try panth5 all bindings

[hazy sentinel]

approximately 0% chance

[compact sedge]

how are you guys so good at this game

[cunning lagoon]

wow yes this is fun

[hazy sentinel]

got to double shield

[cunning lagoon]

i died to vengefly king

[hazy sentinel]

seemsgood

[cunning lagoon]

great it only takes 3 minutes to kill the vengefly kings

take notes

[thorn comet]

Markoth Radiant was actually hell for me

when i first was trying it

[cunning lagoon]

yeah fuck that

i doubt the other guy actually beat panth5 all bindings

it took me almost 15 minutes to reach the soul warrior

[hazy sentinel]

from what i saw of his stream he had invincibility

[cunning lagoon]

[hazy sentinel]

i was like "how's he so good at dodging tyrant's fireballs" and then he just stood through him as he charged across the arena

[cunning lagoon]

lol

[thorn comet]

Was gonna say; has someone done P5 all bindings already?

[hazy sentinel]

hell no

[cunning lagoon]

it seems possible but i feel bad for whoever wants to sit through 2 or 3 hours of that

imagine dying at the end

infinite grimm at least was piss easy

[hazy sentinel]

@copper nacelle how is markoth free

[copper nacelle]

normal version is free

u just

pogo

how tf is no eyes free

[cunning lagoon]

u just jump

[hazy sentinel]

ok i thought you said radiant markoth was free

[copper nacelle]

can you dnail dream warriors

[cunning lagoon]

i dont see why not

well elder hu might be impossible i guess

also gorb maybe

idk

and xero

[hazy sentinel]

smacked in the face with a shield

great

[solemn rivet]

I did it using cheats simo

[hazy sentinel]

no eyes is approximately infinity times easier than markoth

[cunning lagoon]

pretty much yeah

[hazy sentinel]

so close to greatness

[warped sinew]

has anyone full radiance yet ?

[hazy sentinel]

yeah this guy called graig

heard he was a game tester

[warped sinew]

I don't count!

[copper nacelle]

full radiance?

[warped sinew]

all bosses

[rain cedar]

He probably means radiant

[warped sinew]

oh i do lol

i had like 4 hours sleep last night -_-

[hazy sentinel]

tbh if you do markoth and absrad on radiant that's basically every boss

[warped sinew]

absolute radiance is pretty hard too

[cunning lagoon]

yeah both absrad and absolute radiance are tough

[hazy sentinel]

;graigpls

[copper nacelle]

graig have u tried sleep

[hazy sentinel]

@copper nacelle any radiant markoth

[copper nacelle]

no

trying tbh

[cunning lagoon]

ill race u to it

nail only or with spells

[copper nacelle]

spells

nail only radiant markoth is fuck no

[cunning lagoon]

wow coward

ok

i have to beat attuned and ascended first

[copper nacelle]

i haven't beat ascended

help

[hazy sentinel]

just pogo

markoth is free

[copper nacelle]

i can and will continue to maintain that 1 damage markoth is free

you can facetank existence

[hazy sentinel]

yeah you're right

i just thought you were talking about radiant markoth

also radiant no eyes is free

[copper nacelle]

ree

i should try that

wow i tried ascended and got hit twice and died

overcharmed

[hazy sentinel]

unovercharm glitch ez

[copper nacelle]

have you tried ascended sly

it's about as free as radiant markoth

which is to say death

[hazy sentinel]

big dab

[copper nacelle]

how

[cunning lagoon]

fuck me its actually hard

[copper nacelle]

also i still can't no eyes

idk what i'm doing wrong

i've tried weaverlings on markoth at this point

[hazy sentinel]

smart

[copper nacelle]

the soul gen is terrible

i thought it'd be okish

but no

[hazy sentinel]

overcharm kingsoul

[copper nacelle]

i was considering it tbh

[hazy sentinel]

wow radiant markoth took 45 minutes

[copper nacelle]

how do you live w/out a billion soul

[hazy sentinel]

uploading successful attempt maybe

@copper nacelle meme https://youtu.be/i19iuLXz7cI

[copper nacelle]

2 shields is agony

so do you just go for 3 hits after he does the spin shit

[hazy sentinel]

two shields, chilling around markoth, 180 degrees apart cause they're not gay

[copper nacelle]

i now hate markoth

[hazy sentinel]

that's the spirit

[cunning lagoon]

how do you even hit him on 2 shields

[copper nacelle]

weaverlings

[hazy sentinel]

hit him between the shields

[copper nacelle]

[cunning lagoon]

i got it

56 u suck lmao my ass off

also fuck markoth

[copper nacelle]

u

[cunning lagoon]

u

[copper nacelle]

u

[cunning lagoon]

u

[hollow pier]

real markoth strat is get him under a platform during spin and shriek

[copper nacelle]

u

[cunning lagoon]

thats what i used to do

[hazy sentinel]

real markoth strat is weaverlings

[cunning lagoon]

i ended up just going full nail tbh

[cunning lagoon]

i can relate

[copper nacelle]

wait what if you do it with old nail

does he actually scale properly radiant or can you still like 3 shade souls

[cunning lagoon]

he probable doesn't scale anymore

not in godhome at least

[copper nacelle]

hhhhhhhhhh

[cunning lagoon]

i'm sure you could figure it out with some of your datamining magic

[hazy sentinel]

remove all nail upgrades to make bosses easier

really makes u think

[hollow pier]

tfw radiant pure vessel easier than markoth

[cunning lagoon]

sad but true

[copper nacelle]

yes

[cunning lagoon]

ptk have you beaten panth5

[hollow pier]

no i gave it one try and died to nosk

[cunning lagoon]

understandable

[copper nacelle]

lmao

[hollow pier]

too much boss

pls remove boss

thx

[cunning lagoon]

yeah it's kinda long

[hollow pier]

you ever realize fluke is 2 notches

[copper nacelle]

was

tbh

[cunning lagoon]

do we know which charm they buffed

[viscid sky]

Someone has footage of absolute radiance??

[cunning lagoon]

watch a radiance video at 1.5x speed

[viscid sky]

It's the same visual?

[cunning lagoon]

the platforms and the fireballs look different

and she has a new phase where there are 2 platforms and she spawns fireballs infinitely until you kill her

[hollow pier]

you ever realize markoth's swords are literally just soul twisters

[cunning lagoon]

other than that it's just increased speed

[viscid sky]

There's a video of this?

[hazy sentinel]

how's the final phase

[copper nacelle]

also the double outwards blades

[cunning lagoon]

oh yeah

final phase is fine

i think its a bit too long

like the music just stops while you are climbing the platforms

and when you get up it's mostly just silence for like the 20 seconds it lasts

kind of anticlimatic

[hollow pier]

is it time to use dreamshield against 2 dreamshields

[copper nacelle]

no i tried it

useless

[hollow pier]

why is galien the most useless boss

[cunning lagoon]

also why is the soul warrior even in the pantheons

[hollow pier]

its a very difficult boss

[copper nacelle]

tbh found him more difficult than soul master on my first playthrough

[hollow pier]

this tbh

[hazy sentinel]

but soul master has a bigger hitbox so he must be harder

[hollow pier]

🤔

[copper nacelle]

sly is the easiest boss then

[hazy sentinel]

u right

[copper nacelle]

massive moss charger is the hardest boss

[cunning lagoon]

yes

[copper nacelle]

does carefree melody work for radiant

can i carefree melody markoth

[cunning lagoon]

lol

[copper nacelle]

this is a fantastic idea

wait elegy would actually be good

[hollow pier]

wokest build

[copper nacelle]

wouldn't it

[hollow pier]

wait

it would

damn

[cunning lagoon]

yeah it actuallky might be

[hollow pier]

elegy new strats

[copper nacelle]

reevaluated build

[hollow pier]

woker

[copper nacelle]

watch me actually beat markoth with this

[hollow pier]

inc easymode

[copper nacelle]

does mop boost elegy range

[hollow pier]

who knows

is it not enough range

[copper nacelle]

no

also it doesn't

just makes it bigger

[hollow pier]

i tried narts

didnt go well

[copper nacelle]

same

[hollow pier]

my dudes

they buffed sprintmaster

its so fast wtf

[copper nacelle]

wtf

[cunning lagoon]

i cant notice the difference

[hollow pier]

sprintmaster used to do nearly nothing

this is like

longnail

into mop

[copper nacelle]

it's a noticeable difference

but not big enough that i'm going to ever use it

[hollow pier]

i mean early rando

thats pretty good

[copper nacelle]

true

[odd jetty]

dat was the charm they buffed? Rly?

[cunning lagoon]

what is this door

[hollow pier]

loss

[copper nacelle]

opens w/ all bosses i think

might be all bosses ascended

[cunning lagoon]

do you know what's behind it

[hollow pier]

your mom

[cunning lagoon]

yes

[copper nacelle]

who is a statue

changes to void tendrils or something if you radiant all bosses

[solemn rivet]

^

One statue for each rank of all bosses defeated

[cunning lagoon]

epic

[solemn rivet]

Defeat all attuned, get small statue, ascended get medium statue, radiant get big statue

[copper nacelle]

radiant markoth still makes me want to die

elegy is good tho

[cunning lagoon]

also when do sr.com mods verify runs

[copper nacelle]

when they want to

[cunning lagoon]

[copper nacelle]

oh no

my pop is going to die

[hollow pier]

your pop was dead before it was submitted

[copper nacelle]

true

[cunning lagoon]

so will monstah's

when i implement my epic sharp shadow strats

which might be never

[hollow pier]

i tried sharp shadow

i regret trying

[cunning lagoon]

its horrible

but look at this

[copper nacelle]

I saw the video

[cunning lagoon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAhjV8tS0HY

[copper nacelle]

it's god

[cunning lagoon]

its like

4 or 5 seconds faster than the normal strats

the downside is you have to beat pop with sharp shadow

[hollow pier]

wtf you just fuck cycles

[cunning lagoon]

yup

it's not that hard to pull off

it just took me a while to figure out what to do

but when you have that down it's relatively easy

[hollow pier]

wait can you do the meme saw thing in 1 dash

[copper nacelle]

but what about the 2nd checkpoint

[hollow pier]

the uh spike tunnel

before the lever

[cunning lagoon]

that's hell

you can waste the shadow dash with a downdash

[copper nacelle]

oh shit

@hazy sentinel

[hollow pier]

you cant just jump far and do it in one shadow dash

[cunning lagoon]

if you mean the second tunnel

you will always bump the vines

i even tried going as far right as possible

[hazy sentinel]

not always

[copper nacelle]

veru did it

[hollow pier]

so sharp shadow is garbage huh

[cunning lagoon]

o really

[hazy sentinel]

there's a tiny spot where you can both dash under the saw and above the vines

hella gay though

[cunning lagoon]

yeah...

[hazy sentinel]

saves time compared to down dashing before

[cunning lagoon]

and that's like the only place where sharp shadow is actually detrimental

so if you get used to it it's usable

and it saves like 5 seconds on the last room

[hollow pier]

is fast cycle free on first room

[cunning lagoon]

i haven't been able to pull it off once

that's the main difference between monstah's time and mine

he makes the cycle and i don't

[hollow pier]

i actually dont know how he does it

[cunning lagoon]

he also saves like ~2 seconds from cleaner movement overall

same

[solemn rivet]

Hax

[cunning lagoon]

i think the abyss shriek thing doesn't actually save that much time

it does look sick as fuck though

[hollow pier]

same

i think sharp shadow no skip would be faster

with a good cycle meme

[cunning lagoon]

yeah with ss it might even be better to do the thing

[hollow pier]

i feel like i never need the shriek

are parries hella free on oro & mato or is it just me

[warped sinew]

has anyone done uumuu radiant yet? its fucking annoying lol

[hollow pier]

yeah i have

[copper nacelle]

espiode did

[hollow pier]

i just do the ascended overcharmed so i dont have to swap

[copper nacelle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/378234260898840586/482299200768311306/unknown.png

[hollow pier]

so ascended and radiant is basically the same

[warped sinew]

same hp

[cunning lagoon]

wow no swearing please

[hollow pier]

is it actually same hp

[warped sinew]

i think so

but you know, i have no idea really

[hazy sentinel]

so esipode did all bosses radiant in 6 hours or something

[solemn rivet]

wait what

[cunning lagoon]

what

[warped sinew]

6 hours! what took him so long?

[cunning lagoon]

markoth

[warped sinew]

only took me THREE MONTHS

[solemn rivet]

ffs

[warped sinew]

j/k

[solemn rivet]

I had to use cheats

and graig caught me in the act

[copper nacelle]

@ esipode how markoth

[agile breach]

hello

I need help

[copper nacelle]

#archived-modding-help doesn't exist

[agile breach]

can anyone get me the model for pure vessel?

[hollow pier]

no

just take screens while fighting lmao

[agile breach]

I want the png

[copper nacelle]

dump it yourself

pins

[solemn rivet]

use asset studio

[agile breach]

thanks

[warped sinew]

Have you guys ever heard of our lord and saviour, Grobberflys Elegy? Buzzfeed told me Markoth HATES him

[solemn rivet]

got 355 views 56

is this what fame feels like

[copper nacelle]

graig yes

i've been using elegy

makes it so much less terrible

ascended build

[solemn rivet]

6 charms Markoth hates, the 4th one wil make you CRINGE!

[warped sinew]

haha that is a great build

[worldly tree]

Get hit to be send to the moon tho

[compact sedge]

to be tbh radient bosses should be affected by fotf

[cunning lagoon]

yes

well

[worldly tree]

4 masks + probably out of area +4 masks, RIP RIP RIP

[cunning lagoon]

maybe that would make them too easy

[copper nacelle]

^

[tranquil glen]

anyone look at whats behind that blue door?

[copper nacelle]

gradow did

you do binded pantheons to open it

gives you lifeblood over godhome

[solemn rivet]

ye

[worldly tree]

Ive done Markoth on ascended, i dont get how it can be done on radiant

[copper nacelle]

and in pantheon benches you get a lifeblood thingy

[solemn rivet]

8 binds gives 2 masks

12, 3

16, 4

[tranquil glen]

yeah i figured it'd be binding

[hazy sentinel]

2+2=4

[copper nacelle]

i need steady body

[tranquil glen]

so its not like an uber difficult all radiant pantheon 6?

[compact sedge]

not yet...

[tranquil glen]

coo

[solemn rivet]

veru I'm watching your 1h video about GM

do you mention 56 and I

otherwise I'm DMCA'ing you

just cause

[hollow pier]

lmao mentioning modders does he look like thesuperforge

[compact sedge]

ok so can I do a quick poll here

[copper nacelle]

no

begone thot

[daring snow]

add somewhere to setup of FotF

[compact sedge]

Yes or no? should I use ilrepack to merge all the unity dlls as part of the modding api?

[hollow pier]

aa that wasnt very quick

[cunning lagoon]

sure

[compact sedge]

wow ok that was really unanimous

[warped sinew]

ok so modders I had a great idea in production but it was too late to roll out so im handing it to you boys. Is it possible to create a 4th mode in the HoG statues after Radiant, called Challenge. This mode give you a pre setup of charms/spells/abilities. The idea is to beat the boss with a strange/interesting set up. It works well as you could customise them for each boss

[copper nacelle]

while you're at it il-repack in hooks now that you can add them w/out making it .net 4

i mean what

[hollow pier]

sounds good

heavy blow/sprintmaster for uumuu

[compact sedge]

tbh idk what you want me to do 56 because I'm not a real programmer. I'm just the only guy that wants to work on code rn.

[copper nacelle]

markoth no hit with dashmaster

[compact sedge]

oh

I know

[cunning lagoon]

markoth hitless glowing womb only

[warped sinew]

haha yer

stupid shit like that

[compact sedge]

probably be better than putting it in modcommon tbh so yeah I'll do it if I can get away with it. @copper nacelle

[copper nacelle]

haha yes

[hollow pier]

so why does collector stagger 1 hit before death

[cunning lagoon]

just get good lol

[solemn rivet]

I wasn't here for the whole day

have people figured "mawlek" out yet?

[compact sedge]

huh I noticed that too, if you have fstrength

[copper nacelle]

so you can calm down before you decide to murder him

or spare him and walk into him

[compact sedge]

eww why would you ever wanna spare the collector

[copper nacelle]

cause you hate grubs

they're too happy

[cunning lagoon]

[copper nacelle]

holy shit

an actual elegy build

makes markoth not cancer

[compact sedge]

did the backers also design the attacks of the backer bosses

because basically all of them are shit tbh

[cunning lagoon]

very rude

[hollow pier]

so does winged nosk just not hit you if you stand still

[compact sedge]

noeyes, markoth and hu are all incredibly poorly designed, unfun bosses.

[hollow pier]

the globs

well i mean

[cunning lagoon]

i like hu

[hollow pier]

uumuu wasnt backer

[copper nacelle]

idk i'm kinda having fun with markoth rn

[cunning lagoon]

i think vanilla markoth is fairly decent and this new markoth is also really solid

[copper nacelle]

elegy makes it so you can hit him really easily

[cunning lagoon]

noeyes is trash

[compact sedge]

hu is dumb because

1. you can dodge all his shit with shade cloak

but the main problem is

2. he has an attack that makes him unhittable for a long time, long enough to easilly get 2 full no QF heals in

[cunning lagoon]

i agree with 2)

[compact sedge]

and I mean other bosses become mostly unhittable for much longer, say NKG for example, but at least when they're unhittable you have to dodge stuff, hu's attack is really easy to dodge

[cunning lagoon]

1. is more of a problem with the shade cloak itself and that same thing can be said about many toher bosses

[compact sedge]

tbh some of hu's patterns are very hard without shade cloak

[cunning lagoon]

not really

[copper nacelle]

how is hu hard what

[cunning lagoon]

for the attack where he goes invisible you stand in the middle

[copper nacelle]

and then dash out

[cunning lagoon]

and walk to the side at the end of the attack

don't even nbeed to dash

[copper nacelle]

wow nice

[cunning lagoon]

for the bell spam thing you can almost always walk it

even when you need to dash it there's no need for the shade cloak

[compact sedge]

the thing is this, without shade cloak what ends up happening if you are a scrub at the game is you trade blows with him during his random bell attack and then heal up during his bells going towards the middle attack. And thata's not a good boss design.

[copper nacelle]

don't be scrub at the game

ez

[cunning lagoon]

haha then dont be srub

i mean what

[copper nacelle]

that's like saying grimm is bad boss design cause you end up trading blows and then healing during spikes

[compact sedge]

my point is if you're good at the game he's a joke, if you're a scrub that kinda cheese is so easy to do it's inevitable that even the dumbest players find it

[hollow pier]

wait so why is gate not open if ive attuned every boss

[copper nacelle]

you haven't

radiance

[hollow pier]

oh

[cunning lagoon]

^

[hollow pier]

it counts

wtf

you mean i have to do ResidentSleeper

[cunning lagoon]

yup

watch out for collector

[hollow pier]

big trash

[cunning lagoon]

and pure vessel i guess

[hollow pier]

ive done collector

and pure vessel radiant

[cunning lagoon]

also if you are 56 apparently no eyes is insanely unfair

[copper nacelle]

insanely reeeeeee

not unfair

i just suck

[coarse moth]

hheelp))) please someone, just send me sprite of Painmaster Sheo, i cant do that in fcing photoshop

[copper nacelle]

what

you can

i send an entire sheet

[coarse moth]

no im not

[copper nacelle]

hi not

[coarse moth]

its too small

[copper nacelle]

i'm scenic

[solemn rivet]

hi too small

[copper nacelle]

it's literally a 7mb sprite sheet

[cunning lagoon]

i was supposed to go to sleep 4 hours ago

[copper nacelle]

nice

[cunning lagoon]

i love fucking up my sleep schedule every time i manage to fix it

[copper nacelle]

same

[rose barn]

how do i do oblobble

send help

[copper nacelle]

hit them equally

[hollow pier]

i didnt

well i kinda did

[copper nacelle]

or be ptkyr

[cunning lagoon]

more like the opposite

[rose barn]

the second doesn't regen to full when the first dies?

[hollow pier]

then i 1v1'd the last one

[cunning lagoon]

the other one heals when you kill

the other one

[hollow pier]

its pretty free

just play like a bitch when its 1v1

easy

[cunning lagoon]

yeah

[rose barn]

oof

@copper nacelle also i died to blobs

[copper nacelle]

blobs?

h

[rose barn]

the orange ones

[copper nacelle]

that's their only attack tho

unless you count general bouncing

[rose barn]

lost kin blobs...

[copper nacelle]

oh nice

imo ghosts

[cunning lagoon]

red follies

[raven kayak]

does anyone know if doing multiple binds at a time opens the lifeblood room faster?

hearing that 3 binds at a time opens the door even tho the first big notch is for 8 binds

[copper nacelle]

why does markoth get an actually good dream shield

unfair

[cunning lagoon]

glorified dreamshield should've been the 2 shields markoth has

[copper nacelle]

they also shouldn't like

instantly die when they touch anything

[cunning lagoon]

also no flukemarm rework makes me sad

[hollow pier]

actually dying having to pause to move cursor

api when

[raven kayak]

or does the lifeblood door open before the first notch, and the notches are just improving?

[rose barn]

well

they removed the nosk corner cheese

kept the celing one

[rustic stag]

Oh neat tons of messages. For anyone wondering how I did all the radiants in 6 hours, I cheated. Mad cheated. I don't see myself ever having time to do it legit, so I made a copy of my save and then did all the radiants to see what happens when I do them all. Then I deleted the save when all I got was that statue.

[rose barn]

hmmm

this a meme?

[rustic stag]

However, Uumuu was legit. I have him done.

[copper nacelle]

wow no markoth smh

[rustic stag]

Yeah fuck Markoth. He can stay away from me.

[buoyant obsidian]

I did Radiant Gruzz Mother legit

not even close to Empress Muzznik

[rustic stag]

Yeah Gruz Mother isn't that bad

[copper nacelle]

try radiant vengefly kings

[cunning lagoon]

man those are actually kinda hard

[copper nacelle]

no kinda

tbh

[rustic stag]

Ascended wasn't that hard. Could probably do it with a bit of practice.

[rose barn]

those are hard

[hollow pier]

ive done like 15 radiants

[rose barn]

i have everything on the first row beside obobble and vengefly king

dont judge me

[hollow pier]

radiant vengefly is hella free

[rose barn]

i know

but i just cant

[hollow pier]

??

just hit them

[rose barn]

it's so fking easy

but i just cant win it

[copper nacelle]

i love watching my health evaporate repeatedly

[hollow pier]

lost kins hardest attack is empty hop change my mind

[rose barn]

same

[cunning lagoon]

dude thats so true

like

ahh

[hollow pier]

just died twice to hop :]]]]]]]]]]

[cunning lagoon]

it pisses me off sdo much when i get hit by it

he just falls on top of you

it's also lost lord's hardest attack ngl

[hollow pier]

he just hopped like 8 times in a row

he knows

[cunning lagoon]

what a dick

[copper nacelle]

i tried making the hop harder in lost lord

[cunning lagoon]

it can't be harder

[copper nacelle]

almost succeeded

but it fucks his ai

and changing it is like

effort

[cunning lagoon]

also will you end up doing the thing you mentioned

for mantis gods and lost lord

in godhome

[copper nacelle]

yes unless it ends up being painfully difficult

[cunning lagoon]

nice

[hollow pier]

10m of lost kin radiant pretty sure ive only died to hop

[cunning lagoon]

be thankful you haven't died to red follies spawning on top of you

[cunning lagoon]

nice

[copper nacelle]

nice

[hollow pier]

i almost died to a folly spawning on me

ddarked in time

hornets hardest attack is walking forwards change my mind

[copper nacelle]

help

it was on the massive moss charger video too

[compact sedge]

might as well, not like you're gonna get any chineese viewers anyway what with the great firewall and there's plenty of people there who steal content without posting sources.

[cunning lagoon]

wtf

at least he asked

[copper nacelle]

so yes?

[cunning lagoon]

why are you asking us lol

[compact sedge]

I mean do you monetize your videos

if no say yes 100%

if so then probably say no

[copper nacelle]

cause idk who else to ask

also said yes

[cunning lagoon]

i'd say yes because i dont really care

[compact sedge]

not like you could actually be paid by youtube unless you get a shitton more subscribers and views

[copper nacelle]

3000 viewers from china ez

[buoyant obsidian]

I kinda regret not monetizing my weaponhack video

[compact sedge]

tbh verulean's probably the only person actually making money off HK related youtube videos

[copper nacelle]

he isn't monetized

[compact sedge]

oh nvm

well then I guess... the superforge is the only person actually making money off HK related youtube videos.

that's depressing

[buoyant obsidian]

not monetizing is pretty admirable

[cunning lagoon]

perpetual noob has got to make something right?

[copper nacelle]

idk how to monetize to be tbh

[hollow pier]

excuse me

[cunning lagoon]

consider getting good

[copper nacelle]

hornet 2 left

[hollow pier]

shes standing there

doing nothing

shes not staggered

[buoyant obsidian]

lazy

[cunning lagoon]

the soul warrior did that to me

he kept walking into the wall

[copper nacelle]

fireb0rn had the same thing happen w/ the soul warrior

[hollow pier]

she dashed out of the corner

i got bamboozled

[compact sedge]

well it's not admirable for you 56, you'd make literally 0 dollars. For comparison I made a total of about 20 cents from all my videos combined and I couldn't even get paid until I got to around 100 dollars and also they made it so you need a minimum of 100k channel views to start monetizing at all.

[copper nacelle]

i love it when i jump and then markoth spawns a sword underneath me

[cunning lagoon]

oh also im fairly sure hornet2 can dash without doing the animation

she dashed instantly on me one time

[copper nacelle]

why is markoth still harder than pure vessel

[solemn rivet]

cursed image?

[cunning lagoon]

stop

no lewd pics

[copper nacelle]

gradow no

[cunning lagoon]

pleasde

[hollow pier]

thank fuck

[compact sedge]

because pure vessel is fairly designed by real game testers, markoth was designed by some backer with way too much money

[cunning lagoon]

you really hate the dream warriors dont yyou

[compact sedge]

only three of them

[buoyant obsidian]

Dream warriors are my favorite fights

[cunning lagoon]

i think they are fine

not good but not bad either

[hollow pier]

i only think new uumuu is satan himself

[compact sedge]

the other three I like. And the dream bosses are good except for soul tyrant who is kinda meh

[cunning lagoon]

yes

[copper nacelle]

yes

[cunning lagoon]

we all can agree on that

[compact sedge]

yes

there is one silver lining to new uumuu

because the explosion deals damage to him, like a lot of damage I think, he isn't actually that much harder with nail and soul binding.

[buoyant obsidian]

uuMuu what's this

[hollow pier]

i think i figured out an uumuu strat

but its rng

as uumuu always is

[cunning lagoon]

but is it a 2cycle

[hollow pier]

technically

its 1cycle

[compact sedge]

only if you're lucky

[hollow pier]

need good jelly positioning

and good attacks

[copper nacelle]

absolutelynotmeirl

[cunning lagoon]

i wonder when someone will beat p5 all binds

[hollow pier]

monstah will do it

i believe

[cunning lagoon]

did he say so?

[hollow pier]

no he just said zote

which means yes he will

[cunning lagoon]

nice

[copper nacelle]

i love it when markoth comes at me and hits me in the face with a dreamshield

[hollow pier]

dram

[copper nacelle]

the day my e key actually works will be a wonderful day

[cunning lagoon]

what do you use e for

[copper nacelle]

nothing that'd be terrible

[cunning lagoon]

right

[copper nacelle]

i'd get doubles randomly

idk why too

this isn't a bad keyboard

[floral furnace]

i mean, at least hes better than fucking marmu

[copper nacelle]

but marmu is free

[hollow pier]

you ever die to first mantis on sister radiant

[copper nacelle]

once

[cunning lagoon]

khan needs to do sisters jumpless

[copper nacelle]

no wrong

sly jumpless

he's perfect god parry material

[rustic stag]

Perfected the second trial!

[cunning lagoon]

nice

[floral furnace]

damn

[copper nacelle]

@hollow pier stop doing good bosses

do markoth

[hollow pier]

no thanks

[copper nacelle]

fuck this i'm taking a good long break forever from markoth

until i've got everything else

[hollow pier]

you ever feel like shade dash in sister is cheating

[cunning lagoon]

its better to get the worst ones out of the way first

[copper nacelle]

kinda tbh

also sly radiant ahhhhhhh

kurosh have you tried sly ascended and radiant

[cunning lagoon]

i haven't tried anything other than pantheons

and markoth radiant

and pure vessel and absrad for practice

ill start with all the radiant bosses tomorrow

[copper nacelle]

try sly

rn

[cunning lagoon]

i must sleep though

[floral furnace]

Gruzmilf and her radiant spikes is a fucking ass pain

[copper nacelle]

s l y

[cunning lagoon]

[copper nacelle]

graig how do you ascended sly

or radiant

[warped sinew]

DLK radiant bosses isnt really that hard, you will smash them out easy

[copper nacelle]

markoth

[cunning lagoon]

yeah they seem to die quickly

[warped sinew]

only a few of them are hard

[hollow pier]

do i try sly

[cunning lagoon]

radiance will be hard

i kinda have pure vessel down

[warped sinew]

yeah she took me the longest

[cunning lagoon]

and the nailmasters will take a while to figure out probably

[warped sinew]

once you do they become fairly easy

[copper nacelle]

new bosses + markoth

are the ones i've had trouble with

[cunning lagoon]

ye pretty much

[copper nacelle]

everything else has been totally fine

[floral furnace]

56 why do you keep insisting that markoth is the best boss everyone knows that already

[cunning lagoon]

sisters were surprisingly easy

but reaally fun

[floral furnace]

but for real tho markoths off screen swords fucking hurts

[copper nacelle]

yes

and yes

i should've made mantis gods less difficult and more fun

to be tbh

[cunning lagoon]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[solemn rivet]

make them the sisters of fate imo

[cunning lagoon]

i still have to hitless them with old nail

[copper nacelle]

[warped sinew]

just do panth5 hitless all bindings

dont be a puss

[cunning lagoon]

graig do you know roughly how long path5 all binds would take?

[solemn rivet]

graig what does beating a panth hitless do?

because I know for sure that is a thing

[warped sinew]

its about an hour

[cunning lagoon]

ah i thought it would be way longer

like 2 hours

[warped sinew]

oh sorry about 1:30

[cunning lagoon]

oh

yeah that sounds about right

[warped sinew]

each panth takes about 20 mnins

[hollow pier]

absrad all binds hitless

[copper nacelle]

i still can't markoth

help

[hollow pier]

also almost did sly

[copper nacelle]

wtf

[hollow pier]

but hes still impossible

[warped sinew]

I havent honestly sat down and done panth5 all bindings properly

[cunning lagoon]

did you make it to second phase

i feel like second phase is kinda free

[warped sinew]

i tired it twice and moved onto other testing

[cunning lagoon]

it's very short and he only has one attack

[solemn rivet]

but radiant tho

[cunning lagoon]

but it's one attack

he bounces and spins

that's it

and it's short

[copper nacelle]

i need an elegy buff

[solemn rivet]

but he spins in yo face

[cunning lagoon]

well you gotta move

[copper nacelle]

fuck markoth

i can't

for now

i'd rather do like

any actual boss

[warped sinew]

Imagine getting to A-Rad all bindings and dying

i would probably go kill myself

[copper nacelle]

same

[cunning lagoon]

yes that would be devastating

and it would probably happen like a few times right

[copper nacelle]

getting to a-rad normally and dying is painful eenough

[warped sinew]

yeah i mean

[buoyant obsidian]

I love how tense this DLC is

[cunning lagoon]

because what are the odds of winning it on the first try

[warped sinew]

if your gonna die, its there

[hollow pier]

gonna need to hitless sly until phase 2

[warped sinew]

also rad is a bitch sometimes

[buoyant obsidian]

you get a peek at that final boss with only 2 masks off and bang

[hollow pier]

because its just broken

[buoyant obsidian]

start from the beginning

[cunning lagoon]

thankfully you get healed

but with all binds you only have 4 masks

[warped sinew]

oh man you never used to lol

[copper nacelle]

what the fuck

[warped sinew]

they added that fairly recently

[buoyant obsidian]

I'd almost prefer no healing

[cunning lagoon]

uhh no thanksd

[copper nacelle]

i had 2hp at the end of the pure vessel fight

choked hard

[warped sinew]

Lifeblood helps with all bindings

[cunning lagoon]

how do you get lifeblood

[solemn rivet]

beating other binds

[copper nacelle]

^

[cunning lagoon]

no way really

[copper nacelle]

door near HoG

ye

[cunning lagoon]

oh so thats what that is

[solemn rivet]

if you beat panths 1-4 all binds you get 4 masks/checkpoint

[cunning lagoon]

oh that's amazing

i might actually try it then

[solemn rivet]

and by checkpoint I mean

[buoyant obsidian]

all binds at once or one at a time?

[solemn rivet]

bench thingy

[cunning lagoon]

right

[solemn rivet]

I think one at a time, 753

[buoyant obsidian]

thank god

[solemn rivet]

because of the indentation around the door

[cunning lagoon]

ugh but collector is still a thing

how do you even deal with that

[copper nacelle]

u don't

u die

[buoyant obsidian]

Collector is actually hard as fuck

[solemn rivet]

it suggests getting "8 binds" instead of "2 allbinds"

[cunning lagoon]

yeah...

[copper nacelle]

collector primal aspids

is just

[buoyant obsidian]

I remember getting to the Collector in the old boss rush mod

[copper nacelle]

ahhhhhhhh

[buoyant obsidian]

so painful

[cunning lagoon]

i haven't fought it with all binds but it's gotta be hell

[copper nacelle]

it's bad enough w/out binds

[cunning lagoon]

yes

[copper nacelle]

esp cause you get god tamer after

death

[cunning lagoon]

god tamer is kinda free

[solemn rivet]

well

[copper nacelle]

yes but i always get hit like 5 times

[solemn rivet]

panth3 collector doesn't have primals, does he?

[cunning lagoon]

understandable

no

[copper nacelle]

sadly no

[young walrus]

Git gud boyo

[solemn rivet]

so do panths1-3 first

get 3 masks

and then boom

[cunning lagoon]

well yeah you wouldn't start at panth5

[copper nacelle]

how do bindings work

if you have lifeblood heart

[solemn rivet]

wdym

[copper nacelle]

would you have 6 hp

[cunning lagoon]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[copper nacelle]

not lifeblood

fragile

[young walrus]

You'll learn about that when you're older

[solemn rivet]

no

it cancels all charms

[floral furnace]

yeah its a no charm mode

[solemn rivet]

you effectively have nothing equipped

[copper nacelle]

fantastic

[buoyant obsidian]

I was thinking can I go around the whole map and collect all 16 lifeblood hearts

and do 3-binds with 16 extra life

[cunning lagoon]

yeah but what if you only had the mask binding

[solemn rivet]

oh

[cunning lagoon]

how would that interact with health charms

[solemn rivet]

maybe it'd work then, idk

never tried

I'm pretty sure it doesn't work, but maybe I'm wrong

I see no reason it wouldn't work

[copper nacelle]

i'm going to get destroyed by radiant watcher knights

[hollow pier]

what

wk is free

[cunning lagoon]

with lb core, uheart and mask binding

so it just carries over

[solemn rivet]

nice

also wut

[warped sinew]

yeah you can use the charms

if you dont bind them

[solemn rivet]

fheart works

wtf

that was the one I was like "for sure it won't work"

[buoyant obsidian]

all it does is locks 5 masks right?

[floral furnace]

how the hell did you get 6 masks with the binding?

[cunning lagoon]

uheart

thats what i was testing

[floral furnace]

oh yeah that makes sense

[solemn rivet]

753 if it was that, you'd instantly die if you only had 5 hearts

[buoyant obsidian]

hmmm good point

[solemn rivet]

that's why I think it's actually coded as "bind masks till unbound masks = 4"

[cunning lagoon]

yes

thats probably the case

[solemn rivet]

but I guess that's applied before fheart...?

makes no sense

[cunning lagoon]

yeah it just affects the base health

i assume

[buoyant obsidian]

just go gather 16 lifeblood

easy

if you can't win with 16 extra life you deserve to lose

[copper nacelle]

doesn't lb go away when you enter dreams

[solemn rivet]

but in code (at least on lifeblood) fheart changed the actual base health

[buoyant obsidian]

why don't you gather all 16

then try

[cunning lagoon]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[solemn rivet]

it's not like it's blue hearts, which are treated diff in game

[hollow pier]

man pure vessel is hella fun

[cunning lagoon]

maybe they changed it for gm

for situations like this

because usually this wouldn't matter right

[solemn rivet]

it's something like "base health = 5 + mask shards/4 + 2 if you have fhearts"

maybe