archived-modding-development

[nimble lake]

Sorry for asking so much btw

[flat forum]

don't worry

and what exactly do you want as "full detail"?

I mean, play the thing for the full detailed experience

[nimble lake]

QoL, for example

The summery page doesn't explain everything

I remember there was a google drive page with folders of the mods and text files explaining them

[nimble lake]

Nvm found it

[copper nacelle]

@solemn rivet disable better dream respawning

I'll have to fix that

pain

[solemn rivet]

Oh

It's your fault then

Nice

I knew it was a mod doing that, just wasn't sure which one

I got the blue door open, did you see?

[copper nacelle]

ye

[solemn rivet]

Disappoint

Fat fingers smh

[copper nacelle]

did you try pure vessel

[solemn rivet]

Not really, just cheese

But new uumuu

Oh boi

[copper nacelle]

fuck new uumuu

[flat forum]

no don't

there will be small baby new Uumuus

[solemn rivet]

Did you see panth5 56?

[copper nacelle]

i saw the boss list

:agony:

[solemn rivet]

It's worse than nkg hell mod

But you have to see the arena

[flat forum]

send piiiccccc

[copper nacelle]

i'm close to beating panth4

[flat forum]

I cannot be bithered to wait 30 hours

[copper nacelle]

so i'll get there soon tm

just need to get this fight consistent

i've beat him like 10 times now

[solemn rivet]

I'm really more interested in the nail masters

I really like their fights

Pretty easy to no hit

[flat forum]

I think 56 cheesed Sly

judging from the Vid title

haven't watvhed it tho

[copper nacelle]

i found an effective strategy

[solemn rivet]

He facetanked it

[copper nacelle]

just the 2nd phase

[flat forum]

I don't want to spoil myself on the fights

[solemn rivet]

Ye

[copper nacelle]

idk how you dodge 2nd phase for real

[solemn rivet]

And half the first

[copper nacelle]

yes

[flat forum]

Pure Vessel as hard as NKG?

[solemn rivet]

I was using hpbars

He has like 3hp second phase

[flat forum]

Sly?

[copper nacelle]

nice

[solemn rivet]

Dies real quick

[copper nacelle]

also yeah pure vessel is as hard as nkg

imo

harder

[flat forum]

yes

[solemn rivet]

So prolly not to bad to facetank it

[flat forum]

finally

now hoping Absolute Radiance is even harder

and angerier

[copper nacelle]

get to end of pantheon 5

[solemn rivet]

There's one fight in panth5 that I'm not gonna spoil 56

[copper nacelle]

beat pure vessel with 1 hp

[solemn rivet]

You have to see

[copper nacelle]

and then die immediately

[solemn rivet]

Also no eyes is bullshit

[flat forum]

I saw the boss list, but don't know what the new bosses are like

[solemn rivet]

Just putting that out there

[flat forum]

why is No Eyea Bullshit?

[copper nacelle]

@gritty belfry is this u

[flat forum]

is it dumber than the old one?

[copper nacelle]

but yeah i hate no eyes

[solemn rivet]

Fight his ascended ver, 56

[copper nacelle]

oh no

what have they

[solemn rivet]

You'll see what I'm talking about

[flat forum]

RADIANT NO EYES

[copper nacelle]

what the actual fuck have they done

[flat forum]

goddamn it I wanna play right now

[copper nacelle]

this is not ok

[solemn rivet]

Gorb and Xero are bullshit too btw

[flat forum]

Gorbullet hell

[solemn rivet]

All dream bosses are bullshit ascended

[flat forum]

DLK now gonna rek Panth5 AllBind

[cunning lagoon]

i never thought i would see "gorb", "xero" and "bullshit" in the same sentence

[solemn rivet]

Oh boi

[flat forum]

DLK I'm betting on you

[gritty belfry]

why is every single ping I get “is this u?”

[cunning lagoon]

thanks

[solemn rivet]

I mean, they aren't too bad compared with some others

[copper nacelle]

cause it's a good meme

[flat forum]

I know it'll be hard

[solemn rivet]

But still

[gritty belfry]

true, carry on

fuck no eyes

[copper nacelle]

i can't believe they managed to make no eyes worse

[flat forum]

Hey, Gradow

[solemn rivet]

Try marmu

[flat forum]

can we still cheese by screaming?

[copper nacelle]

oh no why

also papers they have more hp

[flat forum]

@Сhing new Marmu even harder

[solemn rivet]

Btw 56,you have to fight those two in those arenas during panth5

[copper nacelle]

excuse

me

can you delet this

[flat forum]

ni

[copper nacelle]

marmu's arena is ok

[solemn rivet]

Graig was saying it's harder that ngg for him

Yeah

[copper nacelle]

no eyes tho

[solemn rivet]

It's mem, but it's ok

It'd be great if it could take damage from spikes tho

Insta ded

[copper nacelle]

yes

[flat forum]

yes

[solemn rivet]

Xero and Gorb are also manageable

[copper nacelle]

i like how ascended marmu is harder than ascended nkg

[flat forum]

Xero with 8 swords

[solemn rivet]

Basically you have less solid ground to stand

[flat forum]

@copper nacelle wait what the hell how

[copper nacelle]

idk i suck at marmu

i don't suck at nkg

[solemn rivet]

56 did nkg radiant legit iirc

[copper nacelle]

yes

it's just nkg hitless

with a tiny bit more hp

[solemn rivet]

Yup

[flat forum]

56 you have 3 valuable things I don't and I wan't then

so I will kill you and use my focus to absorb them

[solemn rivet]

Fame, money and drugs?

[flat forum]

A Brain, a Personality and Skill

[copper nacelle]

wdym i have none of those

[solemn rivet]

Same thing basically

[flat forum]

wdym you don't have them?

[solemn rivet]

I took them from him

[flat forum]

oh no

[copper nacelle]

[flat forum]

I'm sorry, Blackmoth one

[copper nacelle]

i want to do pantheon 5

[solemn rivet]

I did it (up to white defender) with allbinds and infinisoul just to see what it was like

[copper nacelle]

is it death

[solemn rivet]

It was like pain

Yup

Even with the lifeblood cocoons

It's gonna suck big time

[copper nacelle]

i think i got pure vessel consistent

[solemn rivet]

Oh yeah that reminds me

HorNosk (patent pending) is just a glorified Vengefly

[flat forum]

does the new Radiance look any different?

[solemn rivet]

It looks radiant

[flat forum]

wait Hornosk?

Nosk Hornet?!

[copper nacelle]

yes

[solemn rivet]

We already talked about this last night boi

[copper nacelle]

also wow nice

[flat forum]

Also, Gradow

I'm checking the Panth5 list

what dies Godseeker 1
Godseeker 2 (Unn)
Godseeker 3 etc. mean?

[solemn rivet]

Oh

Uhhh

[copper nacelle]

u see godseeker

[solemn rivet]

Where are they in the list?

Yeah, I'm thinking that

They're just standing there and you can talk to them, if it is what I'm assuming

56 had a pic somewhere...

[flat forum]

"Hornet1, Godseeker1, Gorb"

[solemn rivet]

Yup

It's that then

It's a short pause between fights

[flat forum]

this?

[solemn rivet]

In panths1-3 it's right before the bosses

Yup, that

[flat forum]

and when can I give the flower?

[solemn rivet]

Dunno

To get there you have to dream nail a guy

I'm assuming it's that guy you give the flower to

[flat forum]

and do you have pics of the Land of Storms place?

[solemn rivet]

Oh you know about that

For me it only appeared when I gave myself all panths all binds

Papers, I'm about to get to my pc

[flat forum]

yes

[solemn rivet]

Would you like to watch me stream this?

[flat forum]

Ok

[solemn rivet]

But I can't speak tho

Literally

I'm sick af

[flat forum]

Don't worry

Ans I hope you get better soon!

[solemn rivet]

Thanks! I'm way better now than I was three days ago

[flat forum]

Great to hear!

[copper nacelle]

^

also send help

[flat forum]

no

hug Godseeker

[solemn rivet]

Do you have a fresh 107% save I can borrow?

[cunning lagoon]

no bindings

coward

[flat forum]

I have one at home I'd send you

but

I'm not home rn

[solemn rivet]

Oh

[flat forum]

@solemn rivet apparently TC asked not to stream GnG?

[solemn rivet]

I just asked mys tho

but he gone

[flat forum]

Benji just said in #hk-discussion

[solemn rivet]

uhhh I can screenshare

also

the amount of binds is inversely proportional to the amount of balls

that's what godseeker tells you

[cunning lagoon]

gradow you will be breaking the law

[flat forum]

I have 4 balls

[cunning lagoon]

i must call the fbi

[flat forum]

[cunning lagoon]

im sorry

[solemn rivet]

no, they said privately sharing was fine

[copper nacelle]

i beat him

[cunning lagoon]

ok then go on

[flat forum]

beat who?

[solemn rivet]

pure

[flat forum]

yay

[copper nacelle]

you get a sick cutscene

[flat forum]

shhh

don't show

[copper nacelle]

ye

[flat forum]

also, Gradow

[solemn rivet]

tell me when you get home then

I'll see what I can do

[flat forum]

but

I'm getting home tommorow evening

[solemn rivet]

oh

[flat forum]

in which case I can just play it myself

[solemn rivet]

also, I don't want to spoil stuff you don't want spoiled, so

[flat forum]

I just want to see more of Godhone and Land of Storms

but wanna be surprised by the new fights

[solemn rivet]

uhh

land of storms lasts for the entirety of 5 seconds

you get there, walk, get an item and get tp'd out

[flat forum]

[copper nacelle]

5th pantheon entrance is so sick

[flat forum]

send pic pls

[cunning lagoon]

select everything

[solemn rivet]

also

there's a hidden bench 56

[flat forum]

woah

[solemn rivet]

useless, since there's one a few steps away

[copper nacelle]

kruosh this with all bindings is supposed to be harder than ngg

i like my life

alive

[flat forum]

no

[cunning lagoon]

well good thing i beat ngg then

[royal ridge]

do all bindings pussy

[flat forum]

you've said you wanted to die too much

[copper nacelle]

u first

[cunning lagoon]

i have been trained for this moment

[royal ridge]

Done

[flat forum]

now d i e

[royal ridge]

now when you

[solemn rivet]

benji = ded?

[copper nacelle]

Done

[flat forum]

Benji is literal Godd

[cunning lagoon]

no u

[flat forum]

No U

[copper nacelle]

@solemn rivet i think i found the fight you were talking about

and holy shit

[solemn rivet]

mawlek

[flat forum]

Mawlek?

[royal ridge]

(:

[solemn rivet]

it's code

[copper nacelle]

wait what

[flat forum]

Mawlek hard?!

[copper nacelle]

[solemn rivet]

we talking about diff things

nice

[copper nacelle]

lemme just

ping you with it somewhere else cause i really don't want to spoil this for anyone

[flat forum]

delet my brain

wait I don't have one

[copper nacelle]

this is so sick

[royal ridge]

🤐

[cunning lagoon]

[solemn rivet]

56 is having a whale of a time

[royal ridge]

cheers for not saying anything, appreciate that

[copper nacelle]

yw

[solemn rivet]

yeah, I didn't want to spoil this fight too

[copper nacelle]

it's way too good to spoil

[solemn rivet]

only ptk got to see it

I posted a pic here for a second

[flat forum]

Mawlek fight something new?

what

[solemn rivet]

and deleted it

[flat forum]

I'll see in 30ish hours I guess

[solemn rivet]

mawlek is just code, papers, to not give it away

[cunning lagoon]

wow nice spoiler

now i know its not mawlek

rude

[solemn rivet]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

you can't win them all I guess

[cunning lagoon]

or maybe it's a double twist and it is mawlek 🤔

[solemn rivet]

if it was 56 would have gotten the code without me explaining it to him

[cunning lagoon]

maybe he was pretending since the beginning

to confuse us

[solemn rivet]

[warped sinew]

the mawlek finally gets to be social for once, as we all know - they are social creatures

[solemn rivet]

56 is a triple agent

[copper nacelle]

i've been working at tc all along

making everything into more FSMs

[solemn rivet]

please no

[flat forum]

56

Godmaster v2 doubles the FSMs, most of the new ones being unneeded and useless and adds hunderts upon hunderts of empty bools

@copper nacelle

[copper nacelle]

ree

[compact sedge]

Why is modding just godmaster chat

is it because nobody wanted to let this channel die during the day when nobody is actually modding the game since they're too busy playing it?

[solemn rivet]

the truth

it hurts

[compact sedge]

is ok to let a channel die for a day, it'll come back in 48 hours when y'all realize how awesome a combo mod would be where higher combos give you more damage

but only in the arena

[warped sinew]

hi

that is my dream mod

please make it

[compact sedge]

Serious talk tho I'm actually thinking about making that as a mitigator to how little damage you do with bound nail. Not that it'd actually make you stronger. it'd make you weaker unless you got your combo to a certain number and then stronger after that

ok I'll do it but 100% it won't live up to your dreams

[warped sinew]

honestly i dont mind, i just want a combo counter

[compact sedge]

well it affecting damage will be like all my mods a setting you can turn on or off. I love settings. probably way too much actually

[copper nacelle]

probably

[compact sedge]

Well what can I say? I make mods my clone would wanna play. Not that I have a clone but if I were me I would want to be able to configure almost anything.

[leaden hedge]

how much damage does bound nail make you do

1?

[solemn rivet]

13

is what debug tells me

[leaden hedge]

so plenty

[solemn rivet]

the actual amount is pointless

[copper nacelle]

bosses get way more hp

to be tbh

[solemn rivet]

what matters is that bosses have too much hp

[leaden hedge]

does soul binding make you unable to cast spells

[solemn rivet]

no

[compact sedge]

you get 1 spell worth of soul

[copper nacelle]

1/3rd soul

[compact sedge]

that's all you can hold

[copper nacelle]

hell mod ripoff

[leaden hedge]

ok so then it doesn't matter at all LUL

[copper nacelle]

[leaden hedge]

give me literally 0 nail damage

[compact sedge]

so are the 3 tiers of boss harder other than having more hp and doing more damage?

[copper nacelle]

some bosses yeah

other bosses no

[solemn rivet]

gruz mother, for instance, has spike pits

[compact sedge]

on all 3 or just ascended and radiant?

[copper nacelle]

ascended and up

[solemn rivet]

^

[leaden hedge]

wow manits lords rip off

[solemn rivet]

xero and gorb have 3 platforms you can stand

[compact sedge]

tbh probably me asking way too much for every boss to have new attacks at every difficulty.

that's reasonable to change the arena layout

[leaden hedge]

they should just do what death's gambit does

[compact sedge]

seems like an easy way to make stuff harder

[leaden hedge]

spawn a bunch of adds

[solemn rivet]

I hate that

don't

[leaden hedge]

and make every attack leave permanent hazards

[solemn rivet]

oh god no, don't remind me of that

[leaden hedge]

truly the epitome of design

[solemn rivet]

who ever thought lingering hazards was a good thing?

[copper nacelle]

spawn adds which spawn more bosses

[leaden hedge]

spawn aids

[mint tinsel]

Ascended/Radiant pantheons shouldn't be too hard to mod in, right?

Probably kind of overkill especially for Radiant but still

[solemn rivet]

well

some pantheons use ascended/radiant enemies

[compact sedge]

panth 5 but it's only radiant enemies

[solemn rivet]

go away satan

[compact sedge]

panth 5 but it's only radiant enemies and soul binding gives you 0 soul and you're on hellmod

[copper nacelle]

[rose barn]

@copper nacelle how does it feel

the only good part of your mod

ripped off

just like that

[copper nacelle]

[solemn rivet]

so I'm trying to do as many bosses radiant as I can

gruz doesn't one shot u

yes, I got hit

you can laugh

[rose barn]

hmmmm

[unborn sable]

I will. :P

[rose barn]

this chat is making it look both difficult and easy af at the same time

[late sphinx]

your existence is wrong

[solemn rivet]

something's weird... I'm not noticing any difference for most bosses on ascended

lemme try one I know for sure is different

yeah, something's definitely broken

maybe it's the api

[solemn rivet]

so, AA

the API is breaking stuff

radiant/ascended bosses don't work

they behave the same as attuned

[compact sedge]

huh

this without any mods

just the api?

[solemn rivet]

yup

and reverting the assembly fixed it

tbh don't bother fixing it yet

it's not even final

[compact sedge]

tbh I'll let sean fix it

[cunning lagoon]

@copper nacelle is this u

[hollow pier]

is big rta

[solemn rivet]

I'll record it just to have evidence tbh

[copper nacelle]

ree

[cunning lagoon]

sub 3 when

[copper nacelle]

[hollow pier]

sub3 when

I lowered mine to 2:40

no dashmaster

[cunning lagoon]

how

[hollow pier]

igt

[cunning lagoon]

are you god

[hollow pier]

no I just hate dashmaster

[copper nacelle]

*yes

[cunning lagoon]

same tbh

[solemn rivet]

wut

ptk is actually good at something

[copper nacelle]

myla%

[solemn rivet]

also, here be proof https://puu.sh/BizkM/2c974f879a.mp4

[copper nacelle]

i thought that was gonna be radiant gruz mother proof

and i was like why

[solemn rivet]

no, like, it's supposed to deal 2x damage

I can beat ascended

brb

https://puu.sh/Bizqm/49ca0685ac.mp4 proof²

y no embed ree

[copper nacelle]

top 10 pictures taken before death

[solemn rivet]

make this an emote plz

[copper nacelle]

yes

@solemn rivet h

[solemn rivet]

NICE

knight's like "glad I survived that" and gruzz be like "think again fucc boi"

[copper nacelle]

yes

[cunning lagoon]

when is sisters of battle going to play in the mantis gods fight

[copper nacelle]

not a bad idea

considering moving the buffed guys here

so like another option in the menu

Attuned/Ascended/Radiant/God

[cunning lagoon]

👀

also does anyone happen to know if dying in godhome kills a steel soul run

asking for a friend

[hollow pier]

test it

[cunning lagoon]

buy me a copy

[copper nacelle]

i can test it in a sec

[hollow pier]

use my 107 save

[cunning lagoon]

what

[copper nacelle]

ez views

[solemn rivet]

isn't that a flag in the save?

[copper nacelle]

steel soul?

permaDeathMode 0/1

[solemn rivet]

that's evil 56

[copper nacelle]

ye

yes

i need those free views

[solemn rivet]

yeah

[ornate rivet]

Veru already posted this 56

smh

[copper nacelle]

yes but now i gotta go do pure vessel

[solemn rivet]

but his is unlisted

56's is scheduled for release

[ornate rivet]

ah ok

[solemn rivet]

so it's out of embargo

[copper nacelle]

[cunning lagoon]

wow that is evil

[solemn rivet]

expanding brain meme

[ornate rivet]

but what if it gets delayed

[copper nacelle]

then i still get views

dab

[solemn rivet]

and get kicked out of the server

[ornate rivet]

just make sure the thumbnails you post arent spoilers anymore

that one guy got really mad

and I can see why

[copper nacelle]

what do i put as a thumbnail for this

[ornate rivet]

this is fine

I think

if you repost phk

[hollow pier]

use this

[copper nacelle]

not a bad idea

[cunning lagoon]

🤔

[hollow pier]

not bad

its dab

[copper nacelle]

yeah

but why use that

when i can use dableftright

[hollow pier]

wow

use gif thumbnail

[solemn rivet]

use this

[hollow pier]

put dabs on it tho

[copper nacelle]

perfect

[cunning lagoon]

give it a red background or something

you cant see the arms

[hollow pier]

give it a lime green background

[copper nacelle]

make the background gradow's picture ez

[solemn rivet]

tbh just google "three mantis"

[cunning lagoon]

nice anime pfp

[hollow pier]

needs more arrows

[solemn rivet]

ty

never too many arrows imo

[cunning lagoon]

perhaps a big red circle

[copper nacelle]

good enough

[cunning lagoon]

perfect

flawless thumbnail

[hollow pier]

cant quite see it yet

[cunning lagoon]

much better

[copper nacelle]

good

but not good enough

needs more circles

perfection

[hollow pier]

tfw thumbnail has black bars

[copper nacelle]

idk

i could just make it the hollowdab

[solemn rivet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DM_rl0MGFOI here's your favorite person playing your favorite game, 56

[copper nacelle]

i saw that

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/441521707967184896/481441320456552448/unknown.png

[cunning lagoon]

what a humble person

[hollow pier]

damn hes right

[copper nacelle]

also how's this

[hollow pier]

better quit now

also better

[cunning lagoon]

did he tell you that or is it from a convo with someone else

[copper nacelle]

someone else

[cunning lagoon]

oh thats the guy from the balls of steel bullshit

lol

[hollow pier]

yes

[solemn rivet]

yup

[copper nacelle]

yes

[steep sail]

@solemn rivet How long you had access to Godmaster?

[copper nacelle]

fireb0rn beat him on that too

he just didn't change the video title

[solemn rivet]

I still do

[steep sail]

Oh

[solemn rivet]

but they removed it

[copper nacelle]

people who got it while it was there backed it up

[solemn rivet]

so if you didn't get it then, you won't get it now

yup

also, you can disable auto-updates

who knew

[steep sail]

I know, but I have Steam version, unfortunatly

And I'm on train now, heading home

[solemn rivet]

nice

tbh people have said that's far off from the final release

so I'd say you're not losing anything by waiting

[nimble lake]

Is it possible to modify max notches? I tried using the save editor but it doesn't work

[solemn rivet]

which editor?

[nimble lake]

It just changed the number of equipped notches

HKSM

[solemn rivet]

there's an editor which decrypts the save as a json

use that and edit it manually imo

[copper nacelle]

install QoL and have all your saves as json forever

[nimble lake]

I have that installed

[copper nacelle]

wait what

oh that makes life easy

go to your saves folder

provided your qol is updated

there'll be a file for your save

user{1-4}.json

[solemn rivet]

if he's using the installer, it should be

[copper nacelle]

don't open the installer for a week ez outdated

but yeah

[solemn rivet]

also, the installer now auto-updates itself

get it while it's hot

[copper nacelle]

poggers

@nimble lake

just make that 400 or something

ez

[solemn rivet]

Int32.MaxValue imo

[nimble lake]

Uhh

I have QoL installed but there's no user1.json

[solemn rivet]

do you have the installer?

[nimble lake]

yep

[copper nacelle]

open it

[solemn rivet]

open it

does it ask to update qol?

[nimble lake]

Nope

[copper nacelle]

what save are you using

[solemn rivet]

https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe get a new ver imo

[copper nacelle]

^

[nimble lake]

What do you mean what save?

[copper nacelle]

1st/2nd/3rd/4th slot

for 4th it'd be user4.json

also get the new installer to be tbh

[cunning lagoon]

so

does godhome kill ss saves

[flat forum]

test it out

[copper nacelle]

oh i didn't check whoops

[cunning lagoon]

[copper nacelle]

but i don't think so

it respawns you at a set door

[solemn rivet]

it's all a dream sequence

[copper nacelle]

and that

[solemn rivet]

I don't think it does

[cunning lagoon]

yeah but so is the wp

[copper nacelle]

but wp spawns you at benches

[solemn rivet]

tru

[cunning lagoon]

it probably doesnt kill it given how likely you are to die

[nimble lake]

ok, this installer is broken

I get an error message

[copper nacelle]

sharing is caring

[nimble lake]

Rather, it tells me there's an update to the mods but then I get the error

It says it cannot access the .dll file of the mod because it's being used

[solemn rivet]

close the game?

[nimble lake]

It is

[copper nacelle]

close dnSpy

same

[nimble lake]

idk what that is, I don't have it open

I checked in task manager

[cunning lagoon]

cursed save file

[copper nacelle]

do you have an old copy of the installer running

[solemn rivet]

no

blessed save file

[nimble lake]

nope, I deleted it

[copper nacelle]

oh

[solemn rivet]

installer wouldn't prevent it tho

[copper nacelle]

whoops

i tried to load it in 1.3.1.5

[copper nacelle]

are you using gog

[solemn rivet]

well

[nimble lake]

What is gog?

[solemn rivet]

I forced update of debugmod and it worked fine

[copper nacelle]

i'll take that as a no

why is your steam installation in C:\tmp\HKmodinstaller

[solemn rivet]

pasted the GM debugmod in the LB Mods folder

[nimble lake]

oh you mean

I'm using steam

idk it's not

[copper nacelle]

go change the hk install location

[solemn rivet]

see if you have that tmp folder

if you do, delete it

no, 56, that's a temp folder

where zips are extracted to

[copper nacelle]

wtf

[nimble lake]

the entire folder?

[solemn rivet]

well

show me its contents

[copper nacelle]

@cunning lagoon dying in house of gods doesn't murder you

[cunning lagoon]

nice

thanks dad

[solemn rivet]

what about pantheons

delet hkmodinstaller

[copper nacelle]

trying that rn

did all bindings

faster death

[solemn rivet]

I have no idea what that folder even is

[nimble lake]

wait let me just change path

[copper nacelle]

no death

[cunning lagoon]

sick

[solemn rivet]

gr8m8

[copper nacelle]

just don't die to the fat flukes on the way there

or the simple key guy

[cunning lagoon]

yeah those seem dangerous

[nimble lake]

The path supposed to be HK folder, right?

[cunning lagoon]

idk who that is

[solemn rivet]

ye

DLK go right on tof

you'll find in-game 56

[copper nacelle]

yes i live in game

[cunning lagoon]

nice

[nimble lake]

still getting the same error

[solemn rivet]

they finally put him in

[nimble lake]

Same path in the error, even though I changed it in the manager

[copper nacelle]

did you delete the folder to be tbh

[solemn rivet]

did you delete the hkmodinstaller tho

[nimble lake]

I did, 1 sec

[copper nacelle]

every time i quit out my controls get reset

[nimble lake]

I did, tried to update again, same message

[cunning lagoon]

same

if you change your options in the title screen they stay

[nimble lake]

It creates the tmp folder

[cunning lagoon]

but if you change them ingame they go back to what they were when you quit out

[copper nacelle]

tysm

[solemn rivet]

which mod is it trying to update?

[nimble lake]

It doesn't matter which, I get the same message

but it starts with debug

[solemn rivet]

wtf

see if it works with this one

[nimble lake]

If I say no to the update, then it asks me if I want to update another one, and I'll get the error if I say yes to that.

exactly the same result with this one, too

[solemn rivet]

wtf

56 can you try it for me?

[copper nacelle]

yeah

instant crash

poggers

[solemn rivet]

wtf

[copper nacelle]

like

it literally pops into existence

then immediately dies

the old one still works tho

[solemn rivet]

wtf

I cleared the settings files and it still works fine

wtf

[cunning lagoon]

ye it crashes

[solemn rivet]

...

does it give any error message?

[cunning lagoon]

no it just pops up then vanishes

[solemn rivet]

and doesn't open anything else?

[cunning lagoon]

no

[solemn rivet]

it's supposed to open and vanish if it's updating itself (which it shouldn't do, because there are no updates)

[hollow pier]

so has anyone actually played the game or is the entire game just panths

[solemn rivet]

wdym

it's an area in the game, ptk

aside from that area, there are few other additions

a new useless npc

and more flower interactions

and a new simple key

[cunning lagoon]

is the npc actually useless?

[solemn rivet]

judging from the dialogues, it seems so

it has no useful dialogues in the language sheet

[cunning lagoon]

damn

[copper nacelle]

@solemn rivet do you know how to get scene name from a level

[solemn rivet]

sure, use debug

[copper nacelle]

re

[compact sedge]

are all the bosses in different scenes in the boss rush thingy

or are they all the same?

[copper nacelle]

idk

but me and veru found the endless ordeal

but idk what scene it is

just the level file

[solemn rivet]

btw 56, DLK and Aether - is there an AU.exe file beside the installer?

[cunning lagoon]

there is

[copper nacelle]

yes

[solemn rivet]

huh

so it's trying to update the installer

AU = autoupdate

can you check for me if it's open in taskmgr?

[copper nacelle]

opening half the levels at once in unity studio is pain

au.exe is not in task manager

[solemn rivet]

k thanks

[copper nacelle]

excuse me what

[compact sedge]

YES

Zote DLC confirmed

[copper nacelle]

[solemn rivet]

that is old af

also, is there a lol.exe file as well?

[copper nacelle]

nope

[cunning lagoon]

no

[solemn rivet]

ok

that is the updated installer

DownloadHelper download = new DownloadHelper(link, this.path + @"/lol.exe");

[copper nacelle]

do you know the unity version

nvm i'm dumb

[solemn rivet]

56 that zote in the heroes is as old as I have played the game

it should show you some numbers. Can you tell me which number it stops at?

[cunning lagoon]

it didn't stop at any number

it seems to work

[solemn rivet]

want to know what I changed?

[cunning lagoon]

sure

[solemn rivet]

nothing

I only added the numbers to debug

[cunning lagoon]

🤔

[solemn rivet]

removed the numbers

one last try, does it still work?

[cunning lagoon]

using that file?

[solemn rivet]

ye

the numbers is in another file

[cunning lagoon]

yeah it works

[solemn rivet]

thanks for your time

[copper nacelle]

yeah worked for me too

[nimble lake]

I'm gonna try to reinstall the game to make the manager work. What do I need to delete after uninstalling and what do I need to backup besides the save files?

[solemn rivet]

you don't need to

really, it doesn't matter at all if you reinstall the game

don't waste your time

[nimble lake]

Then why doesn't it work for me?

[solemn rivet]

try this

[copper nacelle]

wow gog reverted my game

[cunning lagoon]

wow rude

[solemn rivet]

you didn't disable autoupdates, I assume

[copper nacelle]

ye

have a backup tho

ofc

i was so confused as to why nothing would load

[nimble lake]

I'm still getting the error message

[solemn rivet]

👀

click no on all updates

[nimble lake]

So I'm not supposed to update them?

[solemn rivet]

for now, no

just see if you can get the installer to open

[nimble lake]

Yea, it works if I don't update

[solemn rivet]

ok

now try manually updating those mods

debug and qol, iirc

i.e. uninstall -> reinstall

[nimble lake]

Got the error message again

[solemn rivet]

what the actual

and there's that hkmodinstaller folder in tmp, I assume?

[copper nacelle]

gradow help us find zote salubra

[nimble lake]

Yea

[nimble lake]

But is it supposed to be /DebugMod.dll or \DebugMod.dll?

It says it's being used by another process, but I have nothing open that would use it

[solemn rivet]

it doesn't really matter

see if you have another installer open

idk

[nimble lake]

I don't

[solemn rivet]

wtf

https://puu.sh/BiCwG/b266dbbcab.mp4

[nimble lake]

It never happened before

[solemn rivet]

it works just fine

weird

maybe something's using it?

try this

close the installer

and manually delete the dlls of the mods that are doing this

[nimble lake]

The ones in the tmp folder?

[solemn rivet]

those, too

[nimble lake]

uhh

[solemn rivet]

but the ones in Hollow Knight/hollow_knight_Data/managed/mods/

[nimble lake]

I don't know where are the others

oh

[solemn rivet]

Steam/steamapps/common

[nimble lake]

huh

the two mods that needs updating and causing the error are in zip files

[solemn rivet]

delete the zips

and the dlls

[nimble lake]

Everything? the other mods too?

[solemn rivet]

nah, just the ones giving you trouble

[nimble lake]

I did that, opened the manager, installed these mods and got the error

[solemn rivet]

wtf

[nimble lake]

Should I extract the .dll files from the zip it downloads to the mods folder?

[solemn rivet]

yeah

do it

[nimble lake]

Well, these two mods work again, so that's good

But QoL still doesn't create user1.json

[copper nacelle]

did you open your save

[nimble lake]

yep

and saved

[copper nacelle]

was it the first save slot

[nimble lake]

mhm

[copper nacelle]

ree

[nimble lake]

oh wait nvm it's here

[copper nacelle]

[nimble lake]

fixed, everything fixed.

[copper nacelle]

nice 1999 edit date

meme

[nimble lake]

After I'll edit the json file, the game will load it? And can I just edit it with notepad++ without corrupting it?

[copper nacelle]

yes

[tranquil cove]

Does anyone actually know what glorifying charms is yet?

[solemn rivet]

prolly nothing

incomplete build

[tranquil cove]

Ah

So not everything was leaked

[solemn rivet]

well

everything that's in that build was leaked

but the build that was leaked is by far not the final build (citation needed)

[nimble lake]

Anyways I think everything works fine now, thanks for the help!

[compact sedge]

I wonder how often and how many internal builds they do

[solemn rivet]

great aether!

well, judging by build numbers

not many, AA

[odd jetty]

You can run and debug the game inside unity, so, I doubt they do much builds

And you can export the game with two buttons too ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[compact sedge]

how does this keep happening

are they completely incompetent or is someone inside tc leaking stuff?

[solemn rivet]

no

it's prolly gog's fault this time

or maybe not

idk

[compact sedge]

but like I can see how occasional leaks happen with giant massive studios because there's too many people with access to the code but TC is like 3 people.

why would they even upload their beta branch to the gog website to begin with

[solemn rivet]

misclick?

[compact sedge]

huh maybe

[odd jetty]

Missclick is a option

But I think GoG asked to verify it or something

[copper nacelle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399389373444915200/481909376739966976/unknown.png

this is the scene with the zote flukes

[compact sedge]

TC needs to take a very long break and get some sleep tomorrow so they stop doing this.

[tranquil cove]

It could be to test if it worked on GoG and didn’t just work in unity. Maybe it was only meant to be released for beta testers

[solemn rivet]

that could also happen

[compact sedge]

probably

[tranquil cove]

But I don’t know much about this so I could be wrong l

[copper nacelle]

debug mod works

right gradow

[solemn rivet]

yup

[copper nacelle]

finna

dgate to the zote

[solemn rivet]

it breaks stuff, but works

[odd jetty]

That version must be uploaded long way before and GoG for some reason released it

[solemn rivet]

not the mod itself, but the api

[odd jetty]

That already happened before

[compact sedge]

alright well I beat salt 12 hours before I thought I would so I guess I'm gonna start working on the combo mod early.

mods affecting the knight are so much easier to make than mods affecting enemies

[solemn rivet]

oh

no doubt about that

[copper nacelle]

meme

[odd jetty]

I am just curious, but it would be possible to control an enemy?

[copper nacelle]

yeah

[compact sedge]

are those... open windows? I thought that was just recently viewed locations.

and if so wtf 56

[copper nacelle]

those are open windows yes

[odd jetty]

with keyboard, mouse and stuff?

[copper nacelle]

yes

add a behaviour which checks for key pressed and change the transform

[odd jetty]

Yep, thought so

[compact sedge]

should I reference the GnG assemblies or the lifeblood ones for this mod

[copper nacelle]

GnG

[compact sedge]

I'm thinking the lifeblood ones actually since the GnG ones will probably change

[odd jetty]

GnG

[compact sedge]

for example GnG playmaker is linked against the wrong version of unity

[solemn rivet]

GM

[odd jetty]

Just test it when it coms out

[compact sedge]

I mean GM

[odd jetty]

or ask graig to test it

:V

[compact sedge]

pfft I'm not getting any help testing my mods

I'm gonna have to test em myself

How depressing that that's gonna be the first thing I do when it comes out and not... ya know... play it

[solemn rivet]

if you wanna test them on GM, 56 can help you

[compact sedge]

oh yeah make 56 do all the work

[copper nacelle]

i tried to dgate into the zote scene and it kicked me out of godhome

[solemn rivet]

try changing the transition instead of the dgate

[copper nacelle]

wait no it worked

i had to dgate twice

[solemn rivet]

show

[copper nacelle]

he hurts

does 1 damage

[solemn rivet]

56

[cunning lagoon]

is it just colo zote

[solemn rivet]

dump fsm

we need to figure how to get that scene

[copper nacelle]

can't

[solemn rivet]

y

[copper nacelle]

fsm dumper crashese

holy shit

it's the eternal ordeal

[solemn rivet]

wut

[copper nacelle]

@hazy sentinel zote sings the theme song

[solemn rivet]

what is the eternal ordeal?

[copper nacelle]

it's like zote singing the battle music

lemme record

[solemn rivet]

is the eternal ordeal a scene, or...?

[cunning lagoon]

[copper nacelle]

help

the fat zotes

are so weird

[cunning lagoon]

is it an ctual boss

[copper nacelle]

no it's infinite zote

but better

[cunning lagoon]

nice

[solemn rivet]

show²

[cunning lagoon]

infinite zote scoreboard when

[copper nacelle]

uploading

[solemn rivet]

also

wut

is

eternal ordeal

[copper nacelle]

idk

the weird zote shit i just experienced

[solemn rivet]

where do you get that name then

"eternal ordeal"

[copper nacelle]

pops up on the screen

big white text

[solemn rivet]

oh

[copper nacelle]

also was in the text assets i dumped

[solemn rivet]

when does it pop up tho

[copper nacelle]

after u kill 1 zote

[solemn rivet]

[copper nacelle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fj4suMqMHM4&feature=youtu.be

[solemn rivet]

now we need to figure

[copper nacelle]

not done uploading yet

[solemn rivet]

how to get to zote then

[copper nacelle]

yes

upload complete now

[cunning lagoon]

360p squad