Yeah, not in the hitinstance itself
#archived-modding-development
rain cedar
Nah I think he's right
compact sedge
no I was saying that's not a target fsm it's a source fsm
rain cedar
We need to be passing Target, not base.Fsm
compact sedge
anyway until that happens in I guess 45, I'm gonna use On.HealthManager.TakeDamage
and then orig.gameObject
anyway if you do decide to change this in api let me know when it happens because it affects 2 of my mods. And if not that's alright too, I've found workarounds for it.
cunning lagoon
@copper nacelle falling into the spikes in the mantis gods fight respawns you outside of the arena if you enter the room through a dgate
it could be a vanilla bug i guess
pale ledge
my hollow knight crashes when im installing modding api anyone know how to fix it
hollow pier
alt + down
compact sedge
is there a list of shaders I can use?
I want a normal shader. IE normal layer type on photoshop
but the only one I know of is Particles/Additive which is as the name implies
compact sedge
wow ok
solemn rivet
it's easy to get the target
compact sedge
how would you do it?
solemn rivet
best way: redo the hook to also pass the target as a parameter
lazy way: get it remotely using the base.Fsm
compact sedge
On.HealthManager.TakeDamage works 100% best I can tell though. and IDK how you get it from base.Fsm when base isn't the target
I guess
base.Fsm.gameObject.Target ?
idk if that would work tho
compact sedge
no HealthManager.TakeDamage != the playmaker takedamage
solemn rivet
I know, but doesn't HM invoke the fsm?
compact sedge
the HealthManager one is much cleaner and easier to deal with and has 0 modhooks in it
no
not at all
other way around
but anyway I bet
they are gonna remove the fsm takedamage in GnG
and leave us with nothing but the HealthManager one.
since all the vanilla attacks already have switched to using the HM directly
I mean maybe not but if there's one spot I'm expecting the api to break it would possibly be there
solemn rivet
and it would make sense
so we could just change the hook from playmaker to HealthManager
compact sedge
well actually the HM uses fsms to send events for stuns and for enemy reactions to hits.
solemn rivet
from what I could tell tho, the creation of the hitInstance that HM uses is not in the assembly
unless it's the DamageEnemy one
compact sedge
yes rn it's FSMUtility.SendEventToGameObject("TAKE DAMAGE") -> TakeDamage FSM thingy -> Health Manager which is why the hook works
but they could totally just cut out that fsm
solemn rivet
yeah
well, in that case it would only become easier anyway
sure, it'd break for a while
but it'd be easier to fix
since we'd have the hitInstance in code
compact sedge
yeah I'd be happy with the change
copper nacelle
why is playmaker's documentation so bad
compact sedge
you found their documentation?
copper nacelle
i've looked at it a few times
compact sedge
I just found a bunch of mostly blank useless pages last time I looked
copper nacelle
it's never helpful
rain cedar
why is playmaker~~'s documentation~~ so bad
rain cedar
Maybe TC made those
copper nacelle
woke
compact sedge
https://github.com/natis1/infinitegrimm/blob/master/infinitegrimm/infinite_grimm_modern.cs#L369 idk if you need code this shitty but it worked for resizing the SREv3
copper nacelle
no i just wanted to make sure i read their code right
copper nacelle
wat
compact sedge
leaden hedge
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
dark wigeon
Do you guys know if tc used the regular unity editor or a plug-in to edit? None of this scene stuff makes any sense anymore
It looks fine where the player enters but slowly gets more broken
leaden hedge
the only thing other than playmaker that they use is tk2d, which does have a tilemap but I don't think they used that
rain cedar
Oh ok
dark wigeon
I discovered they were using a tilemap render data thing but it just covers up most of the objects to look nicer
Haven't found anything to set paralax yet either, and it still works when disabling the code that sets position from fsms
Pretty sure in control is for controllers and text mesh is for better text
dark wigeon
I disabled fsms from setting gameobject positions so it's controlled by c#
Just don't know where
solemn rivet
¯_(ツ)_/¯
rain cedar
Could mod the unity dll to log a stack trace when position is set
Would probably make it run like 5 fps
rain cedar
If you get the name of one of the specific objects you care about you could make it only log for that one
dark wigeon
yeah I was doing that earlier, kinda made the console viewer crash
but I'll see if I can stacktrace it since I can't find anything else that would be doing it
watch it end up being a tk2d camera feature
Nothing is setting it's position .-.
rain cedar
Probably means whatever is setting it is bypassing the C# wrapper
rain cedar
Maybe
compact sedge
is it not just done using z position?
compact sedge
I love autouncorrect
I also love when google docs puts squigglies over real words and suggests fake words to replace them
blissful obsidian
Can anyone make mods for switch version now that its hacked
rain cedar
You're gonna have to specify more
Coming from a layman "hack" generally means anything beyond just looking at pictures
vale heath
HI, doe anyone know the controls for debug mod or what all the mods in the mod managers do?
compact sedge
controls are listed in debugmod's gui and second pin of #archived-modding-help
flat forum
Can
Can someone explain why #archived-modding-help questions are always asked here
And why so many people asked about modding the game there
compact sedge
because modding is ambiguous
#archived-modding-help "hey can I have help modding the game"
compact sedge
modding - trying to apply existing modifications to your game.
modding - creating a modification for a game.
all I can say is at least it's not the oneshot server
there if you don't have the modder role you can't see any modding channels
if this server was that way I'd never have been able to make any HK mods.
copper nacelle
is modder self-assignable there tho
compact sedge
no
copper nacelle
wtf
compact sedge
you have to convince the equivalent of benji and simo that you deserve it
copper nacelle
compact sedge
after making your own mods
in theory you get it after one mod made but in practice I think it's like here
compact sedge
what is self assignable is mod tester which gives you access to #archived-modding-help
but it is still a role you have to add to yourself
idk that server is bizzare
like you can ping at everyone and they enable it as a way of catching people who do it and banning them
(yeah do it once and you're banned)
copper nacelle
what
wtf
get haramboi there
20 @everyone pings
i mean i could see having a role which is pingable called everyone to catch people
but having @everyone enabled is just bad
floral furnace
wait one shot has mods
copper nacelle
imo
compact sedge
I mean it's all well and good until you're in a 2k person server
oneshot is open source
it's like super easy to mod
probably
haven't tried
all the assets are unextracted too and just in png in folders
copper nacelle
@flat forum stop being sad thanks
floral furnace
i mean its never too late to turn every portrait in oneshot into tim allen i guess
flat forum
It's more that I'm scared
copper nacelle
works for me
flat forum
Hurmpf
compact sedge
I mean the nightmargin thing isn't that important to me but I'm just imagining if like, wilbo was super active all the time but had no roles
and was just called will
floral furnace
i mean, wouldnt it be cool without realizing youre talking to the dev all the time
compact sedge
I was talking to the guy who ported the game to linux and like I didn't even realize it for about 15 messages
floral furnace
then you start talkign about "whoever designed this part of the game should get shot" or something
compact sedge
ohgod
flat forum
copper nacelle
"wow this linux port is so trash smh"
flat forum
It's just like me
floral furnace
papers pls
compact sedge
I mean I'd expect it to be trash because it's not even like out yet and it seems like a very very hard game to port
it's just about the only game that can use too many distros as an actually valid excuse.
because it does funky shit with the WM and would absolutely not work on say, i3
sorry 56
copper nacelle
reeeeeeeeee
compact sedge
like no spoilers but there's a part where you have to drag a transparent window over the game window and then use clues from that first window
so if you don't have a compositor it will straight up break
and be black
copper nacelle
i have a compositor
compact sedge
it does work with wayland though, in theory
copper nacelle
compton imo
compact sedge
wayland imo
copper nacelle
never
copper nacelle
wayland
more like
focus on security so each wm has to implement basic features instead of it being built in
compact sedge
gotta say tho, KDE's wayland's nightlight setting is god tier.
puts flux and redshift to shame
ui is simple, day and night times are actually fully configurable unlike flux which requires you just inputting a semi close location, transition lengths can be set, and unlike redshit it actually has transitions which aren't possible on xorg.
flat forum
copper nacelle
u ever just
copper nacelle
@compact sedge is this your favorite fsm action
floral furnace
hey reminds me that i kept getting null exceptions cuz i used
HeroController.instance.AddComponent<>
instead of
GameManager.instance.AddComponent<> and didnt realize until 2 hours later
also "cheese jump" waiiii
floral furnace
define "cheese" in this context
copper nacelle
@floral furnace https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzER-0kcf7I&feature=youtu.be
floral furnace
Oh that
copper nacelle
now he jumps into you at 1 million miles per hour
floral furnace
nice
flat forum
not using EnemyHPBars SMH My Head
copper nacelle
@floral furnace
Dictionary<string, string> dict = new Dictionary<string, string>
{
["Focus"] = "OnFocus",
["Focus Cancel"] = "OnFocusCancel",
};
foreach (KeyValuePair<string, string> x in dict)
// insert action goes here
{
}
// or
string[] arr =
{
"Focus",
"Focus Cancel",
"Focus 3",
// etc
};
foreach (string i in arr)
{
string fix = "On" + i.Where(x => x != ' ');
// insert action
}
dank mr numberman, no go back to sleep smh
copper nacelle
cause they're just On + the thingy without spaces i like the second one better
also gn
floral furnace
(seroiusly you didnt have to do this i wouldve just read about dictionaries lmao but thanks)
copper nacelle
yw
trim totem
is there a mod to re enter path of pain
flat forum
young gulch
Guys I played a boss repeatedly and died...... later when I revisited he seems to be dead.. Is it due to the debug mod
compact sedge
anyone have some code I can copy to load an EmbeddedResource?
rain cedar
compact sedge
awesome, just what I needed
compact sedge
so what's the difference between using WWW and GetExecutingAssembly().GetManifestResourceStream
oh I guess the former lets you load from an arbitrary path
rain cedar
WWW is a Unity class that barely works and GetExecutingAssembly is pure C# that works fine
compact sedge
heh
copper nacelle
@cunning lagoon this fixes the spamming of the dive combo
@void tree also fixes the ceiling cheese
dive combo thing was cause i made it so he would jump lower which causes him to trigger dstab and airdash more often
compact sedge
ok I'm fairly certain it's not even possible to serialize video clips in code.
at least not the unity ones
copper nacelle
wdym
compact sedge
I mean just look at this class
copper nacelle
:ech:
rain cedar
How do you even create a VideoClip?
compact sedge
I could change it to dark theme but I don't see any setter for anything
rain cedar
I guess the only way is through editor magic
compact sedge
so uh what now? I really don't wanna just override the vanilla assets but I could do that
oh I found something
videoPlayer.source can take paths
compact sedge
but if I do it that way I cannot pack my video files into my assembly then?
copper nacelle
load it into %temp% from the assembly?
idk
you could host it online
cause http works
rain cedar
I give it like 20/80 odds that Unity actually supports that
compact sedge
wow sounds like crap for my bandwidth
also imagine waiting 30 seconds for your cutscene to load
Also there's the mild problem of the game uses CinematicPlayer and I'm not sure I can just remove those without figuring out how to trigger the credits after the fact.
I can't use Cinematic thingymabob because it uses VideoClip and not VideoPlayer
rain cedar
Just reload the credits scene
copper nacelle
big think
compact sedge
hmm
rain cedar
dnspy inserts those
compact sedge
yield break is at the end of all of these
they're implicit in your code
but the compiler adds them when building the bytecode if you didn't put them there
rain cedar
Even if you put it there
You can compile a function with no changes and it will add another yield break
copper nacelle
copper nacelle
also component getting should be in Awake, not Start, right?
compact sedge
ctor?
rain cedar
I don't like awake because it runs before I have a chance to do anything after adding it
Like sure it's fine if they're all added simultaneously by editor code
Pain in the ass otherwise
floral furnace
I use the fsm dumper to check what components an enemy has right? ie HealthManager?
copper nacelle
the modcommon one?
floral furnace
ye
copper nacelle
ye
floral furnace
at least its organize tho no?
copper nacelle
different items by id
supple sigil
@copper nacelle proper health for grimm?
supple sigil
@copper nacelle h
solemn rivet
wut
supple sigil
wiki health isnt correct apperently
hazy sentinel
low nail presses stream is very unreliable
tranquil glen
Also true
steep sail
800/800/800/930/1000
supple sigil
k yeah it just wasnt updated on the damage values page
leaden hedge
health shouldn't even be there 
steep sail
All TGT members, all DW and Hive Knight have HP scaling from nail level
supple sigil
another thing anyone know the health of the Colosseum Soul Warrior?
steep sail
Hm... Idk
leaden hedge
or actually the health there should lookup from the monsters main page
or vice versa
supple sigil
180 normal and 300 SS apparently
steep sail
Yep
supple sigil
but nothing for colosseum and if anyone can figure that out gimme a pingthnx
leaden hedge
pretty sure its 180
supple sigil
like how sure?
leaden hedge
50/50, i don't do a lot of tof
supple sigil
the wiki's bad enough as it is, if im to fix it i cant make it worse
leaden hedge
ask a 106% runner
they can probably tell if its 180 or 300
its probably not a completely different value
compact sedge
Modding HK for me right now...
copper nacelle
compact sedge
modhelp is alt + down
young walrus
you download the game from steam
pale ledge
i have
solemn rivet
if you bought the game, go to modding-help
otherwise you have the big gay
also, check pins
wary drift
Enemy randomiser doesn't work for me, is there a way to make it use up less RAM and VRAM?
compact sedge
what amount of ram/vram do you have anyway?
wary drift
hmmm
compact sedge
just like, whatever mods you think would be fun imo.
pale ledge
what does Bonfire and boss rush do together?
wary drift
i haz no idea
compact sedge
boss rush doesn't work :(
wary drift
pretty much nothing?
pale ledge
xD
wary drift
why does boss rush not work?
compact sedge
it's not built for lifeblood
compact sedge
charm notch mod gives you salubra's upgrades instantly for free the second you pick up enough charms and I never got the point but that's what it does.
pale ledge
and the other?
compact sedge
and charming buffs wayward compass, gathering swarm, and heavy blow by stupidly broken op amounts
pale ledge
sounds fun
compact sedge
anyway the only mods with any real integrations (IE actually built to detect and work with other mods) are mine, but the integrations are mostly minor things.
wayward compass gives you a minimap
gathering swarm gives you all the geo on the map
wary drift
... O_o
compact sedge
heavy blow is... insane
wary drift
10000000% more knockback?
compact sedge
like if you kill an enemy and don't pick up the geo the flies will go attack all the geo rocks lying around
pale ledge
is there a mod that gives more charm notches
compact sedge
debugmod
wary drift
so... like normal?
compact sedge
no I mean they attack the geo rocks
like they fly to the unattacked geo rocks
and attack them
pale ledge
Boop mod?
compact sedge
makes a boop sound when you hit stuff, is kinda dumb
compact sedge
no it's just its effects are probably overridden by bonfire @wary drift
pale ledge
change all sounds to bapanada
wary drift
kk
pale ledge
whats the difference between having redwing or having both redwing and black moth
wary drift
Grimmchild upgrades?
compact sedge
if you have blackmoth it uses blackmoth's dash and if you don't have blackmoth it uses redwing's pseudoblackmoth dash. with blackmoth it becomes crazy stupidly broken
compact sedge
not by default but it's config file
wary drift
i'ma check redwing
compact sedge
uh it upgrades grimmchild past level 4 making it incredibly strong. the max default strength is given by a video I posted somewhere let me find it purple
it was originally designed as rewards for playing and doing well in infinite grimm
but you can just use it on its own
compact sedge
obsolete, use enemyHPBars
hazy sentinel
install it then change the settings to make grimmchild even more broken
wary drift
only redwing then
compact sedge
and with better textures as soon as I can figure out how to get them in game. I'm going as fast as possible to get the new flame shield ones in
hazy sentinel
you also have the lasers on hit and heal beam
wary drift
oh cool
hazy sentinel
did you change it to only work on full HP or not
pale ledge
whats QoL
pale ledge
is it worth getting?
wary drift
...
pale ledge
i don't usually read credits xD
hazy sentinel
because redwing
hazy sentinel
blackmoth and redwing and lightbringer are easier than the vanilla game
blackmoth is a bit challenging at times b/c of dash attacks
compact sedge
shadow dash all the time is done because it's done in blackmoth and if it wasn't done in redwing it wouldn't make as much sense.
blackmoth is only harder on FC imo.
hazy sentinel
turbo button omegaLUL
compact sedge
and then I had to go and patch my own exploit
wary drift
and upward dash xD
interesting mod
and can someone fix boss rush -_-
it's a fun mod
hazy sentinel
TC are working on it
pale ledge
wahts
wary drift
oh yea
hazy sentinel
fix should be out in a few weeks
hazy sentinel
mainly for people streaming randomizer
pale ledge
and mod common
wary drift
oh yea
hazy sentinel
good idea to keep modcommon installed
wary drift
lightbringer
hazy sentinel
it has some stuff other mods rely on to work
pale ledge
ok
hazy sentinel
not all of them
but it doesn't do anything noticeable on the front end
except if you don't have it and try to install a mod that needs it
the mod doesn't work
pale ledge
if u download a mod from reddit does it still work with api mods?
compact sedge
people put mods on reddit :O
hazy sentinel
/r/HollowKnightModding
pale ledge
compact sedge
damn you got me
hazy sentinel
submitted 1 year ago
pale ledge
oh xD
hazy sentinel
i still have drm-free 1.0.3.7 on my computer
pale ledge
so its 2 out dated?
rain cedar
You can just edit your save file
compact sedge
I have lifeblood non-beta version on my computer because it's the only drm free version of HK on mac/linux steam.
rain cedar
For notches
pale ledge
how
rain cedar
Every version is drm free if you make a stub steam_api.dll
rain cedar
Debug doesn't give you more notches
compact sedge
I'm a horrible person but I should probably crack my steam drm on HK so I can run it without running steam.
pale ledge
oh i thought u could edit stuff
river eagle
well you've already bought the game so no big deal
pale ledge
oh
hazy sentinel
i originally bought HK on humblebundle so i have drm-free and steam versions
really makes u think
compact sedge
I like buying games on humble/gog but I also like automatic updates 
hazy sentinel
wut
rain cedar
📌
solemn rivet
doesn't gog also do auto updates tho?
solemn rivet
point
compact sedge
I like my lutris game launcher so I don't mind not using galaxy except for the lack of updates. and like I can't keep on top of all my games to know when to update them manually.
hazy sentinel
uhhhhhhh
compact sedge
content packs or copy protection?
solemn rivet
current patch
compact sedge
oh me dungo
solemn rivet
because it was released with CP1 iirc
hazy sentinel
isn't it just an install CD
compact sedge
burn a CD with the latest GoG version
solemn rivet
maybe there's a certain link that you can click that let's you update after installing from the cd or some shit
best idea, AA
compact sedge
that'd be cool but I doubt it.
solemn rivet
then I can sell my box on ebay for infinite geo money since it's unopened
compact sedge
if you really wanna be fancy, print this out and trace it in colored sharpies on the cd https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/476445689040338956.png
solemn rivet
also, legit question
why don't pirates who come here always have the most up-to-date version?
I mean
it makes no sense to me
but I know shit about pirating software so
compact sedge
because the people making the cracks are too lazy to keep them up to date
and they've moved on to new games
autumn rock
Because they suck
solemn rivet
but do you really need a crack when there's a drmfree version?
hazy sentinel
too lazy to sneak in a few viruses
rain cedar
Apparently
autumn rock
Ppl are dumb enough to download viruses
compact sedge
pirating software is so insane to me. You're literally just asking for trouble.
hazy sentinel
excuse me sir can i have some trouble
autumn rock
N
leaden hedge
steam games should stay some what up to date if they are pirated
considering the crack for every single one is the same if they used steam drm
also charm notch mod is for randomizer AA, so if you pickup 20 charms you can actually equip more than one
rain cedar
Why would they? Steam isn't gonna update a game you don't own
leaden hedge
well theres no work to be done on the crackers end
its not like they have to recrack the game
compact sedge
wait so why doesn't randomizer just not randomize salubria's notches?
autumn rock
Because you were too lucky
leaden hedge
because you can't buy them unless you have x charms 🤔
and notches aren't randomized
autumn rock
Nicc
hollow pier
aw damn i wanted notch5 but all i got was notch2
compact sedge
But why would you want less randomness when you are playing randomizer
hollow pier
such bad luck smh
compact sedge
or is it because you have to buy them in order
leaden hedge
you don't
autumn rock
@compact sedge because we are tighter than bark on a tree
leaden hedge
you can buy the most expensive one if you want
hollow pier
it just gives notch anyways if you enable
compact sedge
why not just build charm notch mod into randomizer then?
send it as a PR or whatever?
rain cedar
Yeah good idea someone should do that
tranquil glen
don't know why you didn't think of that
wind stag
Is there a guide for making your own mods?
wary drift
time to try to make a hollow knight based pokemon game in unity
wary drift
Look in #art-discussion for more context
wind stag
Thanks again Gradow!
solemn rivet
make charms into badges
wary drift
xD
rain cedar
If you really feel like you need a game engine I'd use something like monogame
Gradow is making joke suggestions
I'd just do it in C# though
young walrus
playmaker, imo
solemn rivet
mick delivers, as usual
young walrus
random bit flipping adds the extra layer of RNG you're looking for
silk fjord
about that hk pokemon game
solemn rivet
not that rare when nintendo is involved imo
silk fjord
what if the protagonist was the collector, and pokeballs are the glass jar things
compact sedge
and by double dmca I mean
2 dmcas one from nintendo of america and one from nintendo in japan
wary drift
...
i did not think of that
but i think playing as the vessel would make more sense
young walrus
2 negatives equal a positive right?
wary drift
plus then the final boss can be the radiance
young walrus
the DMCA's cancel out
solemn rivet
that's pretty much what Jim Sterling did tbh
get as many copyright claims as possible
compact sedge
use Rider
wary drift
...?
rain cedar
Use dnspy tbh
compact sedge
if you have a .edu email you can get access for free https://www.jetbrains.com/rider/
dnspy for writing a new game from scratch 
wary drift
so... Monogame or C#?
rain cedar
Definitely don't use c or c++ as a beginner
Something like python would be fine but it's not well suited for games
wary drift
i know python...
and that's why i'm looking for another language to learn
i won't be able to use python to make games -_-
wary drift
...
i'm in visual studio...
and there are something like 5 million things under C#
do i use .NET core?
compact sedge
look if you're making a new game my best advice is create a new project in that game engine
rain cedar
.NET Framework
wary drift
it's not there...
rain cedar
Start with a console app and work from there
It's listed as "Windows Classic Desktop" under C#
Assuming you're on VS 2017
rain cedar
If you really don't have the proper options you'll need to reopen the installer and check some more things
wary drift
on visual studio
rain cedar
MonoGame is also .NET Framework
wary drift
well i need to install it for visual studio 😛
rain cedar
What are you doing for all the art in this btw?
compact sedge
Presumably drawing it.
rain cedar
Smart ass
wary drift
probs gonna use paint.net as it's best to make spritework
guys
if i use monogame
which one do i use?
windows 10 universal project?
copper nacelle
idk shit about monogame but uwp homo
rain cedar
Probably the first one
wary drift
kk
rain cedar
MonoGame is crossplatform though so Idk why it's only listing windows
Wait I'm blind do cross platform desktop project
wary drift
Monogame cross platform desktop project
i'll look into it tomorrow
going to bed
good night
copper nacelle
compact sedge
do cross plaform desktop project
still need to recompile code with fna to get it working on non-windows
ok weird textures are read from the bottom left
copper nacelle
u
compact sedge
idk what the proper way to read textures is but my photo editing program does top left. but in my head bottom left makes more sense in theory but there's clearly no standard
copper nacelle
invert it whenever it's top left so it's bottom left using extension methods ez
wind stag
Already got the mod I wanted working thanks @solemn rivet for the quick response + info & @rain cedar for the samples and the explanation on git + mentioning dnspy
solemn rivet
Wut that was quick
young walrus
Probably wanted infinite notches
compact sedge
turns out GetOrAddComponent does not check if the gameobject is null. This isn't bad behavior it's just interesting to me.
leaden hedge
texture reading is random
even unity has 2 seperate ways of doing it depending on platform
compact sedge
I used pivots to work around it but uh I have another problem now
I have no idea which shaders I can use
but I need a shader that's basically a simple normal layer
the one I had before was additive so it could only make things brighter
but the problem is I can't find any way to list the shaders that I can use
other than just testing crap with Shader.Find
do you have any idea what I'm talking about or am I speaking nonsense
leaden hedge
unity has a bunch of defaults
compact sedge
the ones I have tried are "Particle Blend.shader" (missing from HK for some reason)
"Sprites-Default.shader" (works the same as Additive which is to say not the way I want it working)
basically I want a shader that works with black particles
leaden hedge
sprites-default isn't additive 🤔
compact sedge
well basically my problem is I hit enemies with spells I want them to have black particles. the particle color is black as it should be but the particles are invisible for some reason even though they have an alpha of 1.
oh wait
is it because
Color.black is transparent
I swear to fuck if it is
leaden hedge
blackTexture is transparent
copper nacelle
it is iirc
leaden hedge
it does
its blackTexture that is 0,0,0,0
Particles/Alpha Blended should work fine
which is this file Particle Alpha Blend.shader
probably if I had to take a wild guess
did you set the tint on your material?
compact sedge
not explicitly
no
I used ParticleSystem.ColorOverLifetimeModule
like so
fadeOut.color = new ParticleSystem.MinMaxGradient(flameColor, blankFlameColor);
where flameColor is Color.black in my code when hit by a spell
and blackFlameColor is flameColor but with alpha = 0f
leaden hedge
no
compact sedge
and it works for non-black stuff
leaden hedge
.color shouldn't work 🤔
leaden hedge
oh is this not a material?
compact sedge
this is a ParticleSystem
https://github.com/natis1/redwing/blob/master/redwing/napalm.cs this is my code
copper nacelle
napalm
leaden hedge
well particle system may not like the default sprite shader
as it uses _Color for colours whereas particles use _TintColor
compact sedge
Hey @solemn rivet does your modinstaller support zips that don't contain ANY assemblies? I've decided I'd like to pack my redwing cutscenes separate from the main redwing binary because they are a total of 60MB together and having a modinstaller seemingly freeze for a long time while that much stuff is downloaded may put people off, so I'm thinking to make them an optional dep instead.
the best I could do compression wise is around 24MB and at that size they start looking kinda shitty. I blame webm. if unity supported x.265 I'd be much happier.
solemn rivet
Hmm I can make it support
Also, I once tried to make a download progress bar, but didn't have much success
compact sedge
Also I'm undecided on if I'd rather the assets go into a subfolder like: Mods/redwing or just in the mods folder. I might do the latter because it would probably be easier for you but the former might be cleaner.
solemn rivet
Maybe I should try it again...?
solemn rivet
Imo make it its own subfolder
compact sedge
ok
compact sedge
ok . You take care and have some radiant dreams!
infected
copper nacelle
flat forum
any idea what the Mantis Lords could be called, I can't seem to get rid of them
Also, same for Mask Maker
floral furnace
On.CameraController.FadeOut += CameraController_FadeOut;
On.CameraController.FadeSceneIn += CameraController_FadeIn;
seems to fail the game from loading once you
- load a save file
- quit and save
- load a save file again (the ui elements will now fade but the background doesnt and youre stuck on it)
i tried unhooking them at OnDisable and OnDestroy but still does it
yeah its On.CameraController.FadeSceneIn += CameraController_FadeIn; hook thats causing this
tranquil glen
Would doing while (true) have the same effect as while (!false) or would that do something weird
floral furnace
Uhh yes
tranquil glen
And how mad would everyone be if I just always used ! false and never once had a true
thorny wasp
hi! how do you open the debug mod menu?
thorny wasp
ok thanks
floral furnace
np
flat forum
@hollow ivy Check this out
https://github.com/seanpr96/HollowKnight.Modding/blob/master/ExampleMods/Source/ExampleMod1/ExampleMod1.cs
flat forum
Is there anything specific you want to mod?
hollow ivy
Not yet, I wanted to know how it is done
flat forum
well, if you have anything in mind, ask away
hollow ivy
I will thx
wary drift
when you know python, but it's useless to you in what you want to make
flat forum
and what do you want to make?
wary drift
the hollow knight pokemon game
wary drift
well
i won't use pokemon's style
as i don't want to be copyrighted for a fan game
but yea
i'm making a pokemon-esc game
it's gonna be a catching and sending one
put without the word pokemon in the title
btw anyone got a C# tutorials that are easy to learn from?
wary drift
ehhhh why not?
wow... this video is really helpful
it already taught me how to write and take inputs from the Console
hollow ivy
C# is not that hard, it is easier than other languages at least
wary drift
I heard i can make games with it
so i'm learning it
and then i'm gonna try to use that knowledge to make a hollow knight pokemon game with it
floral furnace
if youre familiar with any oop languages then yeah it shouldnt be too hard to get started
compact sedge
wh...why does everything have to be 3d? Why can't it just like, draw the pixels
compact sedge
does anyone know an easy way to get the camera gameobject, or like what the camera gameobject is called so I can find it with find
flat forum
What will you need it for?
Debug plays around with the camera I think, but I'm not quite sure
compact sedge
uh I cannot get a video to play
GameObject newVideoPlayer = new GameObject("redwingEnding", typeof(VideoPlayer), typeof(AudioSource));
VideoPlayer v = newVideoPlayer.GetComponent<VideoPlayer>();
v.url = videoPath;
v.renderMode = VideoRenderMode.CameraNearPlane;
v.isLooping = false;
v.playOnAwake = true;
v.audioOutputMode = VideoAudioOutputMode.AudioSource;
v.SetTargetAudioSource(0, newVideoPlayer.GetComponent<AudioSource>());
newVideoPlayer.SetActive(true);
this be my code
and I wonder what I'm missing
leaden hedge
Camera.main is the main camera
compact sedge
I got it playing eventually but uh it has a few issues like it doesn't fade all the way out and just stops on the last frame (probably fixed by destroying the gameobject). and more importantly IDK how to activate the credits.
compact sedge
ok I fixed all those problems but now it doesn't play any audio
I mean it didn't before
but
leaden hedge
open video in wmp in the background and hide it
compact sedge
uh oh wait maybe I should see if the audio track is actually audio track 0
I really hope they don't start indexing at 1
compact sedge
Ok I cannot for the life of me get sound to work
v.audioOutputMode = VideoAudioOutputMode.Direct;
v.EnableAudioTrack(0, true);
v.SetDirectAudioMute(0, false);
v.SetDirectAudioVolume(0, (GameManager.instance.gameSettings.masterVolume *
GameManager.instance.gameSettings.soundVolume * 0.01f));
did you already steal boopmod code
compact sedge
believe it or not I have to actually write original code for once. or at least original to HK modding
copper nacelle
just replace the nail noise and then make the player attack during the cutscene ez
rain cedar
My favorite class right here
copper nacelle
why
rain cedar
compact sedge
Yes I did it finally custom goddamn cutscenes in HK this did not need to be this annoying unity but oh no you had to make everything that could go wrong go wrong. well the joke's on you because it works now.
rain cedar
Good job
compact sedge
It's not even a large accomplishment but gosh darnit I'm proud of myself
buoyant obsidian
Congrats
flat forum
Congrats!
errant lark
can anyone here help me with controller input remapping? running my head into a wall here
i play on a gamecube controller, and i want to remap pause to inventory, so i can quick drop. for some reason, no matter how i try to rebind externally, hollow knight will always take the native input from my controller, in addition to whatever i rebound it to externally
so if I use joytokey to rebind pause to i, it will input pause first, then i second
the same thing happens if i use x360ce. the game just doesn't want to drop the direct input of the controller, in favor of the emulated input
rain cedar
Can't you just rebind it ingame?
errant lark
there's no option for the inventory input under the controller remap menu
it also doesn't let me bind certain things. like if i wanted to bind attack to dpad-down or something, it would just go back to unmapped
rain cedar
That sounds like a solution right there
Use that to set everything to unmapped
Then use the external mapping
errant lark
oh fuck that's genius
alright i'll give it a shot
damn, it's still giving the pause button the pause input
however it's working nicely for everything else
if i could just get the game to drop all of my controller's native inputs, and use x360ce's instead, it would be fine
odd jetty
Which version of the game you running?
errant lark
1.2.2.1
young walrus
do you have the controller input beta turned on?
errant lark
with the input beta turned on, i get absolutely no controller input
regardless of if i use x360ce or default
can use the input beta + joytokey to disable my controller's input and remap everything to keyboard, but the stick and dpad get super fuckity with that setup
young walrus
I know that some of the input controls in HK are hard coded, like the start/pause one. So you'd have to change/remap what signal is being sent to the game through joy2key
you'd have to remap something else to send the start button input
so if that means you do what you describe there and turn on the beta and use joy2key, then that might be the best solution unless you're only moving 2 inputs
errant lark
when i remapped start/pause to i, via joytokey, the game still takes both the default pause input and the inventory input at once
glacial wasp
Is there any mod for HP?
errant lark
i can open the inventory via the same button during unpause lag, but if possible, the game will pause instead
and the only thing i really need to rebind externally somehow is pause to inventory
glacial wasp
For boss Health bar?
young walrus
pins in #archived-modding-help
yeah, so using joy2key, it's accepting controller AND keyboard inputs. which is why it's pausing and trying to open inventory
errant lark
i don't understand why the chain of command is backwards. if my controller signal goes through x360ce first, then to hollow knight, my pause button should be turning into the select button
rain cedar
That's not how it works
Your controller input is globally being sent to everything that will accept it
Then x360ce sends the fake keyboard input
errant lark
i see
rain cedar
You might be able to change your controller driver settings so that the start button isn't recognized as start by hk
errant lark
yeah that might be my only option
this would be easier if hollow knight didn't recognize my controller out of the box lmao
young walrus
or to have the beta turned on and reconfigure your deadzone reading for controller
through joy2key
if that's a thing. i'm not too familiar with joy2key
errant lark
can you configure analog sticks with joy2key? i'm not sure either
because otherwise the joy2key setup would be perfect
errant lark
alright, i'm going to try messing with the controller driver settings first, in an attempt to get the x360ce set up to work
and if that fails i'll commit to joytokey
thanks for the help guys
compact sedge
A sweet new mod to demo custom cutscenes in Hollow Knight!
like all my other mods it requires modcommon and API but nothing else
rain cedar
It requires the only two dependencies we currently have but nothing else
compact sedge
nobody besides me will ofc and if I wanted other people to touch it I'd use regular naming conventions
It's a mod I've been threatening to make for a while and now I have. well not yet, it's still very much wip
if anyone else actually seriously wanted to use it then they can fix the naming and I'd accept it as a PR tho
rain cedar
compact sedge
shh
rain cedar
eee
errant lark
I got my setup to work with native input mode + x360ce, but for some reason the slightest touch of my R button causes the game to drop all inputs until I input stick movement
bronze temple
I know I'm late by a few days, but to whomever donated to me 😳
thank you 😳
I didn't expect to see this when opening my paypal overview, and really, thank you
I wish I knew the nickname of the person in question so that I can thank you personally
(and if you could somehow prevent Harmony from infecting more modding communities and help spread MonoMod, that'd be great )
((on a serious note, Harmony is great, no hard feelings against it, I even contributed to it))
copper nacelle
me irl
solemn rivet
you could tell it was 56 because he donated 56 bucks
buoyant obsidian
I donate $7.53
copper nacelle
compact sedge
Happy to report that to everyone's relief, especially my own, in a lucid moment I found a functional way to get rid of my angle integration mod. Performance be damned because c# isn't a fast language anyway.
copper nacelle
now get rid of your naming scheme
compact sedge
no
copper nacelle
darn
compact sedge
tbh I don't know that I wanna do anything in c# after redwing cp1.
copper nacelle
f#
flat forum
HTML best coding language
copper nacelle
i mean what
flat forum
...Ok...
compact sedge
Going back to oak souls after 5 months of HK dev is gonna be a welcome change for me. And it seems like TC have the sense to make HK arcadey enough on their own so why am I even here?
compact sedge
it's a common trope in basically every roguelike I've ever played
copper nacelle
wtf
compact sedge
even a weird one about ascending with one of three gods.
which purportedly was about non-violence
I've played a lot of roguelikes
about 40 at this point although none recently
and Ican say it's very common that you have to eat your enemies corpses
copper nacelle
w t f
compact sedge
I mean it's not as common with some of the newer ones which generally don't have hunger systems because hunger systems are usually a bad idea.
but like, adom, nethack, all the band games and there are a lot of band games for some reason, hell last I remember even dcss had something like that.
the ones that don't encourage you to eat your enemys corpses either don't have hunger at all, or have your enemies randomly drop food (like pokemon mystery dungeon). The second of these is functionally identical but more kid friendly.
copper nacelle
nothing
leaden hedge
then you starve
compact sedge
KDT gets it. And while I could get rid of hunger entirely I want to try to do something unique and thematic with it. Hopefully in a way that doesn't fall flat on its face but if so idc since it's a free game I'm making for me and have 0 intentions of ever publishing.
compact sedge
copper nacelle
also the other one
compact sedge
well ok it had like 4 lines of code but it was the default code from creating a new class
copper nacelle
@dark wigeon does this look better or worse
also is the search code not pushed or am i high
copper nacelle
@floral furnace
floral furnace
LL Spawning?
copper nacelle
?
copper nacelle
i serialized the lost lord fsm after i was done with it
to see if i had caused any stupid loops
turns out changing the jump height makes him repeatedly airdash like 8 times
floral furnace
how the fuck
copper nacelle
cause it checks his height to see whether to dstab, jump, or airdash
so by making it a tiny bit bigger he becomes airdash the boss
floral furnace
oh cuz airdash is always called whenever hes even slightly above the ground
copper nacelle
yeah
flat forum
Send Airdash LL
copper nacelle
you can even hit him with heavy blow + mop
while he's doing his normal dash
and he'll do an air dash instead
floral furnace
wait is there even a difference between airdash and normal LK dash
copper nacelle
and then it also transitions into land afterwards
instead of dash recover
i think
copper nacelle
Lost Kin, lk Control
infected knight is the old one i think
not used anymore
still in there tho
you could actually make the broken vessel attack work by getting the .json files for this stuff
and then loading it in at runtime
and setting the fsm var which triggers the attack
floral furnace
these would make him do the headbang attack i presume WITHOUT doing the animation?