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cunning lagoon
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actually nvm it inverts each time you save and quit

copper nacelle
cunning lagoon
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what does that mean

copper nacelle
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I copy pasted part of lost lord and didn't change the name

cunning lagoon
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sick

hexed wagon
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is it hard to make a mod for this game

flat forum
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Well, depends on what kind of mod

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It's not way too difficult

hexed wagon
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i have an idea but i probably never be able to pull it off XD

flat forum
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tell us

hexed wagon
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you know those dark caves where you need a light for ?

flat forum
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Make the entire game like that?

hexed wagon
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well , the whole game like that , but every time you swing it lights up for a second

flat forum
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There's already Darkmod

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that does the entire game is dark part

hexed wagon
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:p

cunning lagoon
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this mod is fucking great

hexed wagon
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what is it.?

cunning lagoon
flat forum
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inverts the Knight's sprite sheet's colour

cunning lagoon
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it inverts the colors of the knight

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56 made t

flat forum
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the entire sprite sheet

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that includes and some effects

cunning lagoon
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i wasn't expecting green crystal heart ngl

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i thought it only inverted the knight itself

hexed wagon
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is it in the mod manager?.

flat forum
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Crystals, shadow dashing, Nail Swings (FotF ones included)

cunning lagoon
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i don't think it is

hexed wagon
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don't see it , i'll download the dll then :p

flat forum
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it is

cunning lagoon
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oh mb then

flat forum
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wait, no

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I haven't checked it

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Accept that it isn't for now

hexed wagon
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it is in here bcs i used manually install

solemn rivet
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I'll add it as soon as I get to my pc

flat forum
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Gradow

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more like

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A Very Nice and Helpful Person

rose barn
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@river eagle you can play hollow kngith straight on mac without opening steam

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so technically i probably have at least 300-400 hours on it

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also i couldn't even fking record NKG wihtout dropping to like 15 frames and you expect me to record NGG, and since no one believes me, might as well say i didn't beat NGG

hollow pier
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oh wow its lethere

rose barn
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ptkyr

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hmmmm

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i think i remember this

solemn rivet
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is this a telltale game

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Lethere will remember this

hexed wagon
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lethere ?

floral furnace
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uhhh 23rd august 2028 dude

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๐Ÿค”

compact sedge
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I refuse to accept that "ngg is way easier" because for just nine short seconds you are forced to pogo him to survive when the fight is such that it's impossible to pogo him without taking damage.

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How about this

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ngg is way harder because DD nerf and because you are pretty much unable to pogo him for 27 seconds without taking damage.

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I never once saw trinomi dodging fireballs and spikes

copper nacelle
leaden hedge
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dd nerf is like a frame lol

cunning lagoon
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thanks

leaden hedge
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so you always get hit between casts if you're inside something

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makes literally no difference for any fight other than failed champion

void tree
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DD nerf only matters if you try to spam it, otherwise it's essentially non-existant. To say that ngg is harder would be as ridiculous as saying that it's way easier, you only get to skip the cancerous balloon phase, but you also have an easier way of practising the troublesome last phase. and AA, to say that "I never saw trinomi dodge spikes and fireballs" only really says that you never watched the segmented kill, which is perfectly fine, but that's an unneeded comment when I only pogo the cancerous balloon in that.

cunning lagoon
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i have a question about said cancerous balloon

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are you 100% sure it's undodgeable?

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can't you stand on the left side of the balloon and slowly pogo to the right?

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shade cloak left if necessary

void tree
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It's not, you can bait the pillars

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Like you say

cunning lagoon
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and is that the only dangerous attack?

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the fireballs from the uppercut don't hit you do they?

void tree
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Everything else is also dangerous, but not as much

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They can

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If you don't pogo correctly

leaden hedge
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uppercut fireballs cover the top of the balloon, so if you're trying to pogo as they spawn you'll get hit

cunning lagoon
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yea but can't you just

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double jump

leaden hedge
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no

cunning lagoon
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as they spawn

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ok

void tree
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Nah, too slow

leaden hedge
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you get pushed down from the roof if you go too high too

cunning lagoon
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hmm

leaden hedge
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tbh if I was to redo it I'd remove the 2nd one from balloon including the spikes

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and make 2 balloons at each edge

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so you'd need to line up the patterns and jump through gaps

cunning lagoon
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that sounds sick as fuck

hexed wagon
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is enemyHpBar an upgrade to HpBar ?

leaden hedge
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well hpbars doesn't work on cp

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so yes

hexed wagon
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cp?

river eagle
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content pack

hazy sentinel
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current patch

river eagle
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FUCK

hexed wagon
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:p

trim totem
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when u wrong

hazy sentinel
river eagle
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what? A description?

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no way...

compact sedge
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I rewatched your video and you cut out almost 4 seconds of the third balloon @void tree . The very phase KDT claims is the reason why his NGG is so much harder. And ofc it's absurd to claim it's much harder or easier, it was designed to be more or less the same if the tiniest bit mildly less bullshit but I'm sure the end result is slightly different difficulty wise but that's impossible to quantify.

trim totem
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how many people have beaten ngg

leaden hedge
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0 whenever i can be bothered to rewrite nkg completely to csharp

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so I can buff the shit out of his patterns

compact sedge
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I'm gonna make NGG to satisfy KDT where at 2600 dmg the player will instadie.

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because y'all miss the point of NGG

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the truth is, it's not supposed to be beatable

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it's supposed to show you how fragile life truly is

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it's really a beautiful work of modern art

trim totem
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big dick boss battle

leaden hedge
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its supposed to unbeatable, but be actually beatable, but feel unbeatable

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its technically possible to be a trillionaire

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but that should be about as likely as beating ngg intenseface

trim totem
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double radiance when

leaden hedge
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double radiance would be pretty free if they shared hp like ngg

hexed swan
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double radiance except the sword wall attack is happening for the entire fight

compact sedge
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anyway I'll leave you to do so. 56 will make fun bosses, you can make modern art, we can both agree to disagree on what constitutes good enemy design and we can give the people an awesome set of mods to choose from.

hexed swan
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modern art cornywoke

leaden hedge
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if I wanted to make fun enjoyable well made content

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I'd make my own game intenseface

trim totem
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how much hp does ngg have

leaden hedge
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3200

trim totem
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the graig shall speak

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make way

cunning lagoon
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khan don't do that to yourself

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it's not worth the effort

warped sinew
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Why is the third balloon so much harder in og version? I dont remembered thinking it was harder than the other ones

compact sedge
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because you HAVE to pogo it to dodge the second NGG who spawned right away

hexed swan
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might just be bad luck thinkgrub

trim totem
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graig did you beat it

compact sedge
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instead of having the second NGG spawn after the balloon is over

warped sinew
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Oh right sorry I thought that was the 4th balloon where the 2nd Grimm arrives

leaden hedge
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2nd ngg attacks during balloon, so you either have to pogo and hope you don't get pillars or dd through everything and have no soul

compact sedge
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so it was... literally... rng bullshit

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like even more so

hazy sentinel
hexed swan
warped sinew
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Just use buldar shell to absorb the attack problem solved

trim totem
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spoler

compact sedge
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woah level 3 is actually called radiant

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that's freaking awesome

trim totem
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seek the

compact sedge
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Pantheon of the radiant gods
Small descriptive text in here, allowing 2 lines

leaden hedge
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i should make you fc soulless 5 on a ddr pad to try ngg tbqh

trim totem
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trial of the small descriptive text in here, allowing 2 lines

warped sinew
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I'm actually pretty good at DDR, I could do it :p

trim totem
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graig do jumpless lost kin

warped sinew
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Why?

hexed swan
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jumpless lost kin milliS

trim totem
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my dad works for team cherry and he says you get a secret ending

hexed swan
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wow is graig ur dad

trim totem
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i wish ๐Ÿ˜ฉ

leaden hedge
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i don't know if I can stop lost kin from jumping hollowface

hexed swan
leaden hedge
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might be a little hard to do jumpless lost kin

trim totem
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shut

leaden hedge
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sounds really rng

trim totem
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not really

warped sinew
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Just upslash

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That's it

trim totem
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p a r r y

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the balloons are mildly rng

void tree
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But for real, KDT said he was gonna do the next boss when someone beat ngg, where that at ๐Ÿ‘€

river eagle
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Hollow Knight done in 0,5 nail slashes when?

warped sinew
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Make a mod that gives a chance that input doesn't work. Like 10% of the time button press does nothing

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Next level

copper nacelle
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@river eagle krythom is doing it in 19

trim totem
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how

leaden hedge
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i made that promise about bosses a long time ago Kappa

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things change intenseface

copper nacelle
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he's streaming it too

trim totem
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how tho

copper nacelle
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storage oob

leaden hedge
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by not pressing the nail button

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mainly

trim totem
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advanced

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is storage oob a relative of the obble

leaden hedge
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I might make a another god boss after gng zzz

cunning lagoon
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ok but make it actually good

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thanks

leaden hedge
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after I make a shitpost mod first intenseface

trim totem
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doubke

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radance

copper nacelle
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triple

trim totem
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being good is optional

flat forum
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Alpha HK -like Radiance

leaden hedge
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i kinda wanna make a ddr mod that makes you play the charts instead of fighting the bosses intenseface

unreal kiln
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zote 5 NKG's in the same room at the same time

leaden hedge
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but make the charts retard difficult

trim totem
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make my dream mood mantis lords with traitor Lord

copper nacelle
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play mantis gods instead

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thank

trim totem
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mantis gods more like fast lads

copper nacelle
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u

flat forum
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Super Radiance with 2 Sgadow Radiances - one shooting lasers from above (final attack) and the other 2 doung simoltanous attacks

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So you're constabtly dodging 2 attacks + a Laser

trim totem
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radiance except the orbs constantly spawn

unreal kiln
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Nightmare Radiance that is the radiance but Orbs Keep Spawning, Lasers Appear from off-screen, and now it's 5 masks of damage.

trim totem
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here's a challenge

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make nosk good

still hare
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Just make the corners of the center raised platform into ramps

leaden hedge
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fill the area below the platforms with the orange goop

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and make him move 5 times faster

unreal kiln
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i would remove the cheese Corner, Make Nosk spawn more spiders and make him have his wings back noot

trim totem
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put spike pits on both sides

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is that possible

unreal kiln
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cornywoke Maybe

leaden hedge
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yes

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although goop would probably fit better thematically

unreal kiln
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im not a modder B u t i c a n s t i l l d r e a m

river eagle
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Are 56 and Angle currently the only people making mods for HK? thinkgrub

tranquil glen
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Papers

river eagle
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oh right

flat forum
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DeadHallownest will be remembered

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Eventually

dark wigeon
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does anyone know if the zpos affects parallax scrolling or is it only there for zindexing

leaden hedge
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it does

dark wigeon
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I feel like since the map viewer only breaks on maps that scroll, it might be affecting it

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do you know where parallax scrolling is handled at then?

steep sail
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@river eagle KDT and Gradow. I'm translating modifications if neccecary

compact sedge
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56 is the only modder making mods for HK

river eagle
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woke

leaden hedge
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i made both darkmod and sanic mod for this patch ๐Ÿค”

compact sedge
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but 56 was the first one to make a mod that I could use to change the knight's cape color

leaden hedge
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I mean you can use my shader, it just won't run fast at runtime

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takes about .5 seconds per colour change because I can't render straight to a texture

river eagle
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oh right, shouldn't darkmod and sanic mod then be updated to the list of mods that's pinned?

unreal kiln
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Dark Souls Mod WheN-

leaden hedge
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but you could just cache every colour combo you want

river eagle
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I was looking there

leaden hedge
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if you want to store like 4gb of textures

compact sedge
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misc/tiny/meme mods are neither in the drive nor the modinstaller

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which imo we need a misc mod folder on the drive

steep sail
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@unreal kiln bonfire mod is ready

leaden hedge
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sanic mod is actually good

compact sedge
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that doesn't make it not tiny

river eagle
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It even got graig approval

leaden hedge
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no one will play darkmod though because its too hard

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rip

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wasted like 2 days ensuring all content is probably doable

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and 5minutes coding it

compact sedge
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radiance didn't seem probably doable to me

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but might be wrong

leaden hedge
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well its probably doable

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i didn't do it

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but its probably doable intenseface

compact sedge
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I guess with perfect RNG

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is like fighting mike tyson in punchout blindfolded before they found a reliable buffer strat.

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where you had basically a 1 in 2 billion chance of beating him

leaden hedge
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actually I know its doable because I ushebti'd once

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and died on ascent

compact sedge
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huh ok

leaden hedge
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only thing im not sure on at all is ToF

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could be doable, could be cancer

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who knows, not me intenseface

hazy sentinel
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@wispy root

leaden hedge
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i wonder if inverse darkmod would work

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so you can only see the edges of the screen

wispy root
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why the ping?

hazy sentinel
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ToF darkmod

wispy root
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good luck with the loodles

hollow pier
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just camp at the bottom you never get hit hollowomg

hexed wagon
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@hollow pier why you say its broken ? xd

hollow pier
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because it is

cunning lagoon
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@copper nacelle InvertKnight doesn't change the colours of the knight when running with sprintmaster

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don't ask me why i was using that

hollow pier
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ngg strats

copper nacelle
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wtf

hollow pier
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hey 56

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krythom is streaming

copper nacelle
solemn rivet
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wait wut

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is he still strim

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ye boi

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he ded

tranquil glen
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literally just stopped because i was doing shit af because i'm tired

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gonna sleep a bit then i'll be back on

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and i'll def stream tomorrow too

native wing
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literally

floral furnace
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OnDestroy is only for classes thats extended to MonoBehaviour correct?

compact sedge
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is for all Components so it applies to MonoBehaviors but not Mods

floral furnace
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Aight thanks

warped sinew
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Hey @compact sedge I was thinking in the time mode IG (or even just in general) a DPS stat at the end would be really cool

compact sedge
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sounds like a good idea

warped sinew
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I assume it wouldn't be hard to add either

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That way you can really fine tune strats/charm builds

compact sedge
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yeah. IDK how it would be as a feature but I was also thinking of adding a combo meter

copper nacelle
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unrelated

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wow is this dmc 4

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now add a score for uniqueness of your combos

hollow pier
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thats a nice mod 56

trim totem
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56 there is such a thing as too fast

warped sinew
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@compact sedge OK so I have been wanting a combo system mod forever

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I thought about a cool system where you could have charms that activate at combos amounts

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Like 20 hit combo x charm effect activates

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I think you could do some really cool shit with such a system

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Or maybe have a combo charm that has a bunch of different effects built right into it. The idea is to keep stacking combo up to unlock more effects. At 10 hits you get effect 1 at 20 effect 2 etc

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That way you can choose to use combo mode or not by equipping that charm only

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You could even have support charm that make you lose only half combo count when you get hit instead of all of it etc

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Lol I have thought about it a lot. There is so much you could do with it

trim totem
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why don't you suggest it to the boys

warped sinew
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We have spoken about it before. I think They thought about a combo system early into development and decided to keep it more simple

trim totem
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i agree with that decision

warped sinew
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Yeah I also agree they went the right way

warped sinew
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@copper nacelle that lost lord move is sick

trim totem
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i agree i really like god kin's moveset

cunning lagoon
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@copper nacelle mantis gods hitless done now release lost lord

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also the last mantis can't hit you with her melee attacks only the boomerang

compact sedge
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I can't make combos affect gameplay at this point, at least in IG, without breaking the leaderboards again but I'd love the game to track them separately as an extra thing. And having them affect player damage, attack speed, or maybe something else entirely in the other arcade thing I'm making would be cool.

warped sinew
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Yeah as an extra thing is great as is

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An "arcade mode" mod would be amazing

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It would be perfect for a boss rush actually

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Imagine if this game had a boss rush!

compact sedge
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I was testing the waters with a small arcade mod but then soul tyrant turned out to be a absolute nightmare to mod, I hope you can get your coder guy to rewrite it for GnG.

hexed wagon
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i have a mod idea if anyone is intrested XD

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SuperHot Mod
enemies move as you move but since that probably would be to ez
making the enemy's faster then normal would maby be a good counter

leaden hedge
hexed wagon
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didn't know :p

leaden hedge
hexed wagon
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but i don't know anything about modding this game

leaden hedge
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unlucky then

paper heart
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Wow didn't realize there was a pretty good community for mods out there. New to the channel. Can't wait to beat the game so I can try these out!

exotic venture
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seanpk

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@rain cedar is this you

paper heart
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No lol someone asked me that before

exotic venture
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i'm still inclined to make this joke though

leaden hedge
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this is his rs alt

exotic venture
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ohh that makes sense

paper heart
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I'm new to the game and channel. I've only started Hollow knight 3 days ago

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No I have no idea who that is

floral furnace
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honestly implenting that mod shouldnt be too hard, you just gotta abuse checking the cState and changing time scale accordingly GWfroggySocksPoint

paper heart
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Has anyone created a combo counter mod?

hexed wagon
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not that i know off :p

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another mod idea :

you become the thing you last hit / killed

paper heart
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Love that idea

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It would be interesting if we could mod it to have a high action combat like Devil may cry haha launchers, air combos etc.

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I know it won't happen though lol

floral furnace
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Is overusing FSMUtils Add/Insert action something i SHOULDNT be doing

solemn rivet
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I mean

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ever heard of becoming the monster you hated?

floral furnace
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GWfroggyBlobWokeThink HMMMMMMMMMM

solemn rivet
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wait

hexed wagon
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.

solemn rivet
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you gave your secret identity away when you thought that using FSMs might be a good idea

hexed wagon
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the dot was by accident

floral furnace
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Shit my cover is blown Dont tell graig

solemn rivet
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๐Ÿ‘€

hollow pier
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ttaco cant dash slash still

floral furnace
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wat

hollow pier
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your spin meme

floral furnace
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you cant slash dash?

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cuz you should be able to do it normally, Great Slash is the only one i screwed up to transition directly to Spin

hollow pier
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it just removes the charge

floral furnace
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charge animation? sorry i may be getting this wrong

hollow pier
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like you release the charge during a dash and nothing happens

floral furnace
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weirddd, do you have Dash Slash unlocked?

hollow pier
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maybe

floral furnace
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cuz i didnt give the nail arts to begin with

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cuz i would be screwing with player data, dont want any permanent changes

hollow pier
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ok it works noot

paper heart
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Is there a mod that gives new abilities? New here so sorry if it has been shown

rain cedar
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Lightbringer and redwing

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Blackmoth changes charms but I don't think it gives new abilities

hazy sentinel
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omni dash

paper heart
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Thanks Sean. Btw people think I'm you l lmao

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That I was your Alt account haha

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Thanks Fog

rain cedar
steep sail
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Nice mod. How it works with translations?

rain cedar
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I'm just making it show all of the text box from the start

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That shouldn't break any languages

compact sedge
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this seems like a good fit for qol

rain cedar
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Wow encouraging 56 to steal my hard work

compact sedge
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Let's make HK modding communism

copper nacelle
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sharing is caring

rain cedar
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It's literally just this btw

FieldInfo textMesh = typeof(DialogueBox).GetField("textMesh", BindingFlags.NonPublic | BindingFlags.Instance);
On.DialogueBox.ShowNextChar += (orig, self) =>
{
    TextMeshPro text = (TextMeshPro)textMesh.GetValue(self);
    text.maxVisibleCharacters = text.textInfo.pageInfo[self.currentPage - 1].lastCharacterIndex + 1;
};```
copper nacelle
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can I steal this thanks

rain cedar
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no

copper nacelle
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darn

rain cedar
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DMCA inc

copper nacelle
rain cedar
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Fast Textยฎโ„ข

kindred garden
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Well

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I started a new game with the enemy randomizer and its unplayable xd

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Not because of the difficulty, i mean because of the collector appears in 2 or 3 areas on the forgotten crossroads and the player insta-leave the area xd

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And in the part where you are locked until you kill some enemies, there are just no enemies

copper nacelle
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turn on chaos mode ez

kindred garden
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aha

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i preffer to kill myself instead of trying that xd

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The primal aspid in dirthmouth is the only custom enemy ?

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Or do the modder added more like him in all the rooms ? xd

copper nacelle
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no he's just in dirtmouth afaik

copper nacelle
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also 10/10 gonna release today or die trying

cunning lagoon
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it's not that i wanted it inverted i just noticed it and told you

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also did you look into the last mantis thing

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i had it happen twice where her melee things didn't do damage

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only the boomerangs

copper nacelle
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haven't yet

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i'll do it rn

cunning lagoon
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oh and beating the mantis lords with the mod installed doesn't count as actually beating them

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so you can't get to mop, quirrel tells you to upgrade your nail etc

copper nacelle
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yeah ik about that

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pain

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does sprintmaster actually help for dodging them

cunning lagoon
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absolutely not

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neither does dashmaster

copper nacelle
cunning lagoon
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i just had 3 notches

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it was supposed to be dashless but i accidentally dashed right at the end

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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

copper nacelle
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got the same bug

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it broke the hp too

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i'll just hard code the hp ez

cunning lagoon
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wdym

copper nacelle
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it updated the guy again

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*= 3 again

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and the enemyhpbars bar started flashing weirdly

cunning lagoon
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oh

solemn rivet
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wut

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who's using that useless mod

copper nacelle
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๐Ÿค”

cunning lagoon
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๐Ÿค”

solemn rivet
copper nacelle
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yeah i fixed it

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ty for the bug report

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also did second phase seem fair

cunning lagoon
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yeah when you figure it out it's cool

copper nacelle
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yeet

cunning lagoon
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it just seems really overwhelming and stupid at first

copper nacelle
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yeah

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definitely

rain cedar
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Why?

compact sedge
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Thank you for setting a precedent

copper nacelle
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because fast text is god

rain cedar
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Oh ok

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No thinking allowed

copper nacelle
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rip thinking

compact sedge
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he set the precedent

copper nacelle
hazy sentinel
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shitmodst API port to be tbh

cunning lagoon
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infinitegrimm(5)

compact sedge
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tbh some day I wanna make a meme mod collection sorta like qol

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but for meme mods

copper nacelle
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i have more than 5

rain cedar
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Meme mod collection would be unplayable

copper nacelle
compact sedge
#

you could toggle each one

rain cedar
#

There is no individual toggle

#

Just a randomize button

copper nacelle
#

w o k e

compact sedge
#

every room loads a random set of mods

copper nacelle
compact sedge
#

wow you still haave 0.2.8

hazy sentinel
#

@copper nacelle make a full invert filter mod that combines w/ invertknight if you want to invert everything except the player character

copper nacelle
cunning lagoon
#

^^ this but unironically

compact sedge
#

or just install invert knight and invert your screen

#

bigmeme

#

then knight would be normal

copper nacelle
#

wow ruining the fun smh

leaden hedge
#

thats just a shader ๐Ÿค”

rain cedar
#

Every frame take a screenshot of the game, invert every pixel, then overlay it on top

#

Should run fine

copper nacelle
#

sounds good to me

leaden hedge
#

well thats what you'd do with a shader

compact sedge
#

this is so sad can we port HK to powerpoint?

leaden hedge
#

just with a piece of hardware really really fast at that

hazy sentinel
#

make every living thing solid red

rain cedar
#

How about every everything solid red?

#

I could make that

copper nacelle
#

i could do the living things one

rain cedar
#

tbh just make everything on layer 11 red

hazy sentinel
#

and then fool eaters

copper nacelle
#

i keep forgetting layers exist

#

was gonna check for a healthmanager

compact sedge
#

have fun getting it to work with fool eaters

#

without hardcoding them

copper nacelle
#

do they not have healthmanagers

#

excuse me

hazy sentinel
#

finally communist radiance mod is happening

rain cedar
copper nacelle
#

wtf

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why are there different shades

river eagle
#

Can we have a Communist radiance reskin mod?

copper nacelle
#

maybe

river eagle
#

Probably not that hard to do. Just alter the color palette of the sprites sheet

hazy sentinel
#

making the sickle/hammer look smooth w/ the movement would be tricky

#

esp the spinning animation

river eagle
#

Everything is possible with enough dedication hollowface

copper nacelle
#

u do it

leaden hedge
#

just replace the golden orbs with hammer + sickle

solemn rivet
#

and replace Radiance's theme with the national anthem of the Soviet Union

hazy sentinel
#

yeah but you need a well-looping version

copper nacelle
compact sedge
#

is it out yet?

#

is this 1.0

copper nacelle
#

yes

cunning lagoon
#

endgame gear right

copper nacelle
#

yes

#

fuck i forgot to change the text

cunning lagoon
#

smh my head

copper nacelle
#

fixing rn

foggy pebble
#

I'd love to install the enemy randomizer I saw floating around

cunning lagoon
#

how much health does he have?

copper nacelle
#

1500

foggy pebble
#

but I'm horrible with files and suck

copper nacelle
#

there's an installer

#

big woke

foggy pebble
copper nacelle
foggy pebble
#

I'll try later, fighting defender

hazy sentinel
copper nacelle
#

same

hollow pier
#

isnt this modding help

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the other one is modding

cunning lagoon
#

the blobs don't despawn after you die

#

so they show up outside of the dream

hazy sentinel
#

that's a feature

copper nacelle
#

^

cunning lagoon
#

in vanilla?

copper nacelle
#

maybe

hollow pier
#

just dont die lol

cunning lagoon
#

im not used to dying sorry

copper nacelle
#

my spawners are just a clone of their state

#

and of their actions for the double set

hazy sentinel
#

lost lord is just so powerful he can ascend his balloons out of the minus realm

copper nacelle
#

also fixes something

#

doesn't really matter

compact sedge
#

something

copper nacelle
compact sedge
#

wow that's still a bug in the api, smh my head

cunning lagoon
#

can you fight him multiple times in the same save file

#

asking for a friend

copper nacelle
#

not yet

#

should i just have it stay forever

cunning lagoon
#

yeah

copper nacelle
#

oh ok

cunning lagoon
#

same with the mantis gods if you make them not lock you out of the MoP

compact sedge
#

but keep the save file flag because why not

copper nacelle
#

but why

hazy sentinel
#

what something did you fix this time

copper nacelle
#

nothing

#

just made it so you can fight forever

#

in fact i removed the bug fix

hollow pier
#

post another version why dont you

copper nacelle
#

if you say so

hazy sentinel
#

another version why dont you

copper nacelle
hazy sentinel
#

Lost Lord(5).dll

copper nacelle
#

yes

hollow pier
#

wow is this spaces in mod names

cunning lagoon
#

he's way too easy

#

he does the dive very often and it's a free attack where you can get 4 or 5 hits in

copper nacelle
#

ahh

cunning lagoon
#

the other attacks seem reasonably difficult but he didn't do them that much

copper nacelle
#

air dash -> dive isn't free?

cunning lagoon
#

the one that spawns 6 blobs on each side?

copper nacelle
#

jump -> air dash -> dive -> uppercut

cunning lagoon
#

i have no idea what that attack is

finite thistle
#

56 does this have to be done on lifeblood patches

copper nacelle
#

yes

finite thistle
#

fuck

cunning lagoon
#

he gets on top of you, falls down and spawns 6 blobs on each side

#

and swings above him multiple times

copper nacelle
#

yeah that's dive

finite thistle
#

well im not quite ready to go back to shitblood yet

copper nacelle
#

he can combo his air dash into dive

cunning lagoon
#

yeah that's very free

copper nacelle
#

wtf

#

i can't dodge that at all

cunning lagoon
#

when he gets on top of you dash away from him and jump

hollow pier
#

56 just bad

cunning lagoon
#

and fall between the first and second pair of blobs

copper nacelle
#

u

cunning lagoon
#

then you hit him

finite thistle
#

im worse than 56 still

copper nacelle
#

i did that w/ shade soul

#

but how is that 6 hits

cunning lagoon
#

i didn't say 6 i said 4-5

copper nacelle
#

o

cunning lagoon
#

with quickslash

copper nacelle
#

agony

#

timestamped

cunning lagoon
#

yes that one

copper nacelle
#

also free?

cunning lagoon
#

that's the one i was talking about

copper nacelle
#

fuck

cunning lagoon
#

dash away from him so he doesn't fall on top of you, jump, fall between the first and second pair of blobs

#

free every time

#

and he does it all the time

#

he did it like 5 or 6 times ina row

copper nacelle
#

idk why he does that

#

but he always does it like 8 times in arow

cunning lagoon
#

ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

finite thistle
#

give him the blob spam that bv has but make it impossible to pogo on him when he does it

hazy sentinel
#

solution is to make every attack undodgeable

cunning lagoon
#

add 2 lost lords

#

and ngg spikes

copper nacelle
#

sounds fair

hazy sentinel
#

constant bv blob spam while lost lord does his attacks

copper nacelle
#

if he didn't combo the dive into upslash would it be fine

cunning lagoon
#

i don't even know what combo you're referring to

copper nacelle
#

the one you said was free

#

except remove his slashing at the end

cunning lagoon
#

the problem is the frequency of the attack

#

yeah that would be good

#

because the slashing doesn't get you unless you are braindead

copper nacelle
#

is the normal dash into slashing fine

#

or is that extra free

hollow pier
#

give him cyclone slash

cunning lagoon
#

i'd say that one's fine

#

it punished me a few times for misjudging the length of his dash

copper nacelle
#

is the speed great or great

finite thistle
#

at half health make him only do charges but constantly spam blobs for about 15 seconds from random points and then resume normal attacks pogers

cunning lagoon
#

do keep in mind that i fought him for 5 minutes

#

i don't have that much experience with the fight yet

finite thistle
copper nacelle
#

yes

finite thistle
#

ok good

cunning lagoon
#

i killed him because of the dive upslash spam or whatever you call it

copper nacelle
#

wtf

cunning lagoon
#

i'll fight him more tomorrow bnut for now i'd say reduce the frequency of that attack

copper nacelle
#

okay

finite thistle
#

cool now do soul tyrant buff 56

copper nacelle
#

u

finite thistle
#

yes

hollow pier
#

is kuro just how we measure mod difficulty now

copper nacelle
#

yes

cunning lagoon
#

๐Ÿค”

hollow pier
#

if its not free its good enough

copper nacelle
cunning lagoon
#

sick

#

yeah when he does the hard attacks he's actually hard

void tree
#

100% cheeseable

hazy sentinel
#

sure love videos that exist

hollow pier
void tree
#

oh, set it to private instead of unlisted, lul, should exist now?

cunning lagoon
#

oh wow

void tree
#

he can't reach that high sadgrub

hollow pier
#

he doesnt have much hp

cunning lagoon
#

yeah prob just put spikes there

hollow pier
#

just pogo ez

cunning lagoon
#

vines

#

the greenpath thorns whatever they are called

solemn rivet
#

make a primal aspid wall

#

bigthink

hazy sentinel
#

add in computer generated textures

cunning lagoon
#

other than those 2 things it's a very cool fight

trim totem
#

i'll try it

cunning lagoon
#

everything is fair and he's fun to fight

copper nacelle
#

wtf

#

cheesed already

#

what is life

#

i could just make him jump higher

void tree
#

tbf you can corner lock lost kin, so that was the first thing i tried and it still worked

copper nacelle
#

wow nice

cunning lagoon
#

steal AA's death walls

copper nacelle
#

now i can blame tc

#

more like

trim totem
#

how much health

copper nacelle
#

1.5k

dark wigeon
finite thistle
#

cool fight, better than mantis gods lol

copper nacelle
#

yeet

finite thistle
#

only attack i have trouble consistently dodging is ground dash because i suck

cunning lagoon
#

you could make the upslash not parryable i guess

finite thistle
#

or when he jumps right into me

cunning lagoon
#

i'm not sure how much that would affect the fight

copper nacelle
#

what if i made the upslash 1.5x bigger

#

or more

cunning lagoon
#

hmm

#

oh you knowq what

#

yeah do that

#

actually

#

nvm

copper nacelle
#

fastest idea death

cunning lagoon
#

your idea is good

#

i was thinking about something like

finite thistle
#

just put spikes on the walls at the top so you cant familiar cheese

cunning lagoon
#

make it bigger but make make him wait between slashes

#

so after each slash you have to get in, get a hit, get out

void tree
#

Would that actually change anything in how you play? you already have to dash away from him if you're not cheesing him to not get hit by the upslashes anyway

cunning lagoon
#

something along those lines

#

but i'm not sure if that would work

copper nacelle
#

when he does the air dash -> dive

#

you can jump over him

#

and pogo him during the upslashes

#

also then you can still shade soul

cunning lagoon
#

spells gay

copper nacelle
#

u

#

could make the antic a bit faster

#

so you'd have less time to dash

cunning lagoon
#

what's the antic

copper nacelle
#

little wait anim before he actually does the attack

cunning lagoon
#

the ground dash is already tough to react to

#

prob don't make that faster

copper nacelle
#

yea

#

but dstab could be a bit faster for sure

cunning lagoon
#

sure

finite thistle
#

also i wish debug mod let you give yourself all mask/vessel shards because i dont feel like looking for all of them right now and i had no 107 file on hand

copper nacelle
#

dgate is at him

#

he still has the fsm stuff for starting broken vessel's attacks

finite thistle
#

ok

copper nacelle
#

no

#

stop

#

cease

finite thistle
cunning lagoon
#

oh that actually works

#

lol

copper nacelle
#

idk why tc didn't just make it like

#

2 higher

finite thistle
#

just make him spawn blobs atop himself as well when he creates blobs

#

also make that ground dash ever so slightly less homosex

copper nacelle
#

no

finite thistle
#

ok

copper nacelle
#

git gud

finite thistle
#

cant git gud when i cant git a life

copper nacelle
#

i'm gonna try and get the old lost kin fsm back

#

i think it's still in the scene

finite thistle
#

why is jumping acceleration so slow

#

why cant i keep my sprintmaster accelertation in the air

#

why is tc gay

copper nacelle
#

cause sprintmaster is trash

finite thistle
#

ill cut u

copper nacelle
cunning lagoon
#

get InvertKnight for maximum sprintmaster efficiency

copper nacelle
#

true

finite thistle
#

what does that mod do

copper nacelle
#

inverts the knight

cunning lagoon
#

makes you look funny

finite thistle
#

why has no one made a mod that makes midair moving not gay

copper nacelle
#

cause it's not

dark wigeon
#

want booster 2.0 ?

copper nacelle
#

booster 2.0?

dark wigeon
#

meme

finite thistle
#

yes

#

from cave story

#

good item

#

good game

copper nacelle
#

i could re-add broken vessel's blob spam

#

by loading in the FSMs from json by embedding them in the dll

finite thistle
#

haha yes

#

make him do it at half

copper nacelle
#

but it's easy to dodge

cunning lagoon
#

do you mean the enemy spam or the headbutt against the floor

finite thistle
#

just make him periodically spawn six blobs like he does with a slam at different poitns

copper nacelle
#

headbutt against the floor

finite thistle
#

and put a hitbox above him so you cant pogo

#

disclaimer im not actually going to attempt it because im bad and lazy

copper nacelle
#

wow bad

finite thistle
#

yes exactly

#

thats what i said dungo

copper nacelle
hexed swan
#

necr0 dung0

copper nacelle
#

^

finite thistle
#

yes

compact sedge
#

ok so uh does anyone know why when I create a new particle generator and set its starting color that value is ignored and all my particles are magenta?

leaden hedge
#

it has no material

compact sedge
#

aaaa ic

#

where do I set that?

#

don't see a "material" property in either ParticleSystem or ParticleSystem.main

leaden hedge
#

particlesystemrenderer

compact sedge
#

awesome thanks

copper nacelle
trim totem
#

can you do this on nosk's arena

copper nacelle
#

yeah

#

it also made lost kin not spawn

trim totem
#

oh

#

well that's not good

floral furnace
#

just fill the entire arena with spikes so the player has to constantly spike pogo throughout the fight /s

trim totem
#

this

copper nacelle
#

i also moved a chunk

#

he's probably stuck in the roof

dark wigeon
#

yes the floor is now orange ghosts

copper nacelle
#

yeah he was in the roof

#

or the void

#

one or the other

#

why does Dream Dialogue have a collider

#

wtf

copper nacelle
#

is making lost kin jump twice as high on his air stab bad

trim totem
#

does he even stay in the arena at that point

compact sedge
#

thank you so much @leaden hedge finally got around to trying it (got caught up in real life and playing minecraft) and it works perfectly now. I mean still gotta configure it to look less bad and give it its own unique texture but yeah it's not purple squares which is somethign.

solemn rivet
#

wut ma boi

compact sedge
#

custom particle renderer.

#

actually there is one issue that I do need to figure out at least a half solution to and maybe a very hacky one idk

solemn rivet
#

oh

#

nice

compact sedge
#

and that's that I need its position to match the enemy, but not its rotation

#

so I can't just set it to a child of the enemy

#

I guess I could constantly set its position onupdate

rain cedar
#

Minecraft cornywoke

compact sedge
#

ye

#

me building a tiny base with a friend

#

went from one battery and a coal generator to nuclear reactors in 4 hours so not the worst progress.

rain cedar
#

Wow minecraft got a lot more advanced

solemn rivet
#

that's mods

compact sedge
#

too many mods mostly

#

basically made it into factorio minus aliens

solemn rivet
#

I used to play like

rain cedar
#

I don't believe it

solemn rivet
#

teknink or something like it

#

don't remember what it was called

#

but it had a lot of mods

compact sedge
#

feed the beast but yeah

rain cedar
#

technic is old news all about ftb

compact sedge
#

and we're using multimc because the ftb launcher sucks

solemn rivet
#

feed the beast, technic

rain cedar
#

But how do you feel about the curse launcher?

solemn rivet
#

I remember when there was this magic mod that was so op

compact sedge
#

when we did use ftb and not mmc we'd all download the "linux" one because it was the only way to avoid curse.

#

all the mods are op

solemn rivet
#

it basically made it so you could recreate every item you had at some point

#

what was it called...

compact sedge
#

oh no that one

rain cedar
#

You're describing ee2

compact sedge
#

was super broken

solemn rivet
#

yup

compact sedge
#

and if you think that's bad you should have seen ee1

#

ee1 was basically cookie clicker

#

but with diamond blocks instead of cookies

rain cedar
#

Fun fact EE2 was recreated for 1.12

#

Project E

compact sedge
#

ee1 had a machine called a solar transmuter thingy I forgot the exact name

solemn rivet
#

god, those were fun times

compact sedge
#

and it basically turned 1 diamond into 1 diamond block every 30 seconds

#

good times

solemn rivet
#

you could harvest solar energy out of glowstone

#

it was awesome

compact sedge
#

yeah what you did was just stick one glowstone block on top

#

and get 24/7 "solar"

solemn rivet
#

yup

#

now there are all those nuclear energy mods and stuff

compact sedge
#

as we found out though even the newer supposedly more balanced ee versions were broken, so broken we never used them

solemn rivet
#

I miss the good ol' green energy days

compact sedge
#

I mean nuclear's just what you use to get the end game tech which is the absurd solar generators that this pack has that cost like 100k diamonds and make around 10m rf/tick

#

Not 100% sure but I don't even think I'm even exaggerating those numbers

solemn rivet
#

god I miss ee2

compact sedge
#

apparently the best solar arrays in my pack take, no joke, 288 nether stars.

solemn rivet
#

install ee

#

done

compact sedge
#

knowing ee I could probably get 1 nether star for like, 6 cobblestone

rain cedar
compact sedge
#

ok ofc I was joking to say 6 cobblestone but that's still really cheap for how freaking annoying they are to get in vanilla

#

I mean we were literally paving our roads with platinum blocks wich were twice the emc of diamond blocks

#

because we figured out we could use an excavator to mine lapis at about 1 lapis per second and lapis was 768emc each, plus you got lapis blocks every 4-5.

copper nacelle
#

just have automated wither killing

#

saw some guy do that once

flat forum
#

oh wow, a rare sight - Modders talking about minecraft

floral furnace
#

did it cuz of KDT's "Hollow Knight but whenever you x it gets faster" comment, so this is "Hollow Knight but whenever you hit an enemy it gets faster and you do more damage but it resets if you get hit" mod

river eagle
#

Sounds fun

#

What are the multipliers?

#

For damage and the game getting faster?

floral furnace
#

max speed is at 1.5 ( i tried 2.0 and it was WAY WAY too fast)
formula is hit.DamageDealt = 5 + (PlayerData.instance.nailSmithUpgrades * 4) + (int)((scale - 0.95) / 0.02f);

#

at max speed youd get 27 dam already ON TOP of your regular nail dam

oh and uhh each hit adds 0.05 to the speed then gets reset

cunning lagoon
#

the damage increase might be a bit too strong in the early game

#

gruz mother died in 3 nail swings

floral furnace
#

oh shit

#

yeah i think its a bit too much tbh

cunning lagoon
#

make it a % increase prob

floral furnace
#

maybe i should scale base on nail upgrade level?

cunning lagoon
#

or scale with nail upgrades

#

ye

floral furnace
#

yeah

#

also should i lower the scaling? like add 0.025 instead of 0.05 to time scale?

cunning lagoon
#

what would change

#

would it just take longer to stack or would the max speed end up being slower

floral furnace
#

it would take longer to reach max speed

#

1.5 is the highest right now, every hit adds 0.05, so you can reach it in about 10 hits

cunning lagoon
#

o

#

yeah 0.025 sounds better

floral furnace
cunning lagoon
fair rampart
#

I just had an idea

#

What if there was a hollow knight randomizer?

tranquil glen
#

man imagine

#

that would be crazy

cunning lagoon
#

someone should do that

tranquil glen
#

^

#

(it exists)

fair rampart
#

It does?

#

Damn

#

Wish i had the pc version so i could use it

#

I have the switch version

tranquil glen
#

rip

#

it is a lot of fun

compact sedge
#

sorry for your loss :(

floral furnace
#

| ||
|| |_

fair rampart
#

imagine loss but with grubs

#

kek

leaden hedge
#

install linux onto switch

#

run hk on that

fair rampart
#

But how?

solemn rivet
#

Don't listen to kdt

#

He's evil

compact sedge
#

(it probably wouldn't work, unity engine is closed source and idk that it builds standalone arm64 binaries)

#

(maybe if you're lucky you could build it as a uwp game and install the disgustingly awful windows 10 iot edition.)

solemn rivet
#

Install switch emulator on Linux and then install Linux on it so you can run hk

fair rampart
#

or just pirate pc version intenseface

leaden hedge
#

is there no wine for arm64

compact sedge
#

sure but it'd only be able to run arm64 windows binaries

#

you could use qemu which is an actual x86 emulator. but it's slow af. there's also exagear which is much faster but paid.

solemn rivet
#

So what you're saying is

compact sedge
#

yes it's totally possible!

solemn rivet
#

He should install a win10 VM inside the Linux which is inside the switch

compact sedge
#

and then run a mac vm in the windows 10 VM

solemn rivet
#

Mac eww

leaden hedge
#

port hk to gamecube, run dolphin on linux, emulate hk on switch via that and use game shark codes to enable mods intenseface

compact sedge
#

or, write mods entirely in game shark.

solemn rivet
#

Game shark omg

#

Didn't even remember that used to be a thing

silk fjord
#

port the entirety of hollow knight into a gameshark code and then flip the individual bits in the hardware using a surgical laser to install mods intenseface

hexed wagon
#

reading this and all i can think of is the brain meme

compact sedge
#

don't put in private void Start() what you could put in the class constructor

#

is something that should have been obvious to me before but I feel like I'm only learning now

nimble lake
#

There should be a mod that keeps Myla alive even after she dies/infected.

floral furnace
#

She deserves to die tho

rain cedar
#

That's the perfect idea

#

I can kill her every time I go in there

nimble lake
#

nahnahnah you don't get it

#

She'll be alive and just mining and singing like usual

rain cedar
#

What's the point of the mod, then?

#

If I can't kill her

nimble lake
#

She doesn't die

rain cedar
#

I don't get it

nimble lake
#

She doesn't die and she'll be alive and happy and not dead

rain cedar
#

But who would want that?

nimble lake
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EVERYONE.

floral furnace
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i think it means it should be like white def and gpz where you can refight myla over and over again

nimble lake
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(dude no)

rain cedar
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Now there's a mod idea I can get behind

nimble lake
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My god

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server of savages

cunning lagoon
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u

autumn rock
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u

floral furnace
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myla kill% speed run when

compact sedge
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just drop the infinite enemy component on myla

rain cedar
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But then she won't die

compact sedge
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exactly

autumn rock
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Mylapercent is impossible

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Even segmented TAS can't manage a run that intense

hollow pier
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it already exists

compact sedge
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Is there a hook like hitinstancehook but that gives me both the hitinstance and the gameobject/enemy that that hitinstance is affecting?

rain cedar
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It gives you the fsm

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fsm.gameObject

compact sedge
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that's your fsm

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that's the nail/spell/w/e

rain cedar
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Oh

compact sedge
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I've had this problem before and it's possible I might need to either finally look into monomon hooks (bleh) or maybe see if I can get away with fsm hooks (bleh) but either way I guess I'm gonna be looking through code today. maybe I'll add a healthmanager hook haven't decided yet

rain cedar
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monomon hooks

slow fable
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is there a mod that gives you all of the movement abilities at the beginning?

compact sedge
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debugmod and add them yourself?

rain cedar
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You can give them with debug mod

slow fable
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good

flat forum
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also

slow fable
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i want to see how much of a jumpless run would be possible

tranquil glen
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wat

fossil oxide
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Is it?

rain cedar
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Why does it even matter?

fossil oxide
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Dunno

rain cedar
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You already did everything

fossil oxide
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Just curious myself, dunno why that guy wants it

compact sedge
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yes, get a save editor

leaden hedge
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hksm has a toggle for it

compact sedge
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yes

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use hksm

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is easy to use

fossil oxide
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Can you link it so I can link it there in my comment

compact sedge
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in pins

fossil oxide
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Thanks.

compact sedge
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pinned message from kdt

solemn rivet
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Wait fsm isn't the target of the hitinstance? Are you sure? Because the source is hit.Source

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When I'm home I can check the hook using dnspy

compact sedge
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hit.gameObject is the object that is attacking and I know because YOUR code where you make slash do 1 dmg in blackmoth

solemn rivet
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Yeah, I know, but the hook also gives an fsm parameter

compact sedge
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hit.Source should also be the gameobject that causes the impact

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the way it's done is something like:

enemy.GetComponent<HealthManager>.Hit(new HitInstance
            {
                Source = hitinstanceGO,
                AttackType = damageType,
                etc etc.
            });
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but nowhere in the hitinstance itself is stored the gameobject that you are targetting