#archived-modding-development | Hollow Knight | Page 147

flat forum Jul 29, 2018, 7:49 AM

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Only if there was a mod like that

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O N L Y I F

compact sedge Jul 29, 2018, 7:49 AM

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I mean... are the enemies in hollow knight hurting you consciously?

copper nacelle Jul 29, 2018, 7:49 AM

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ClassLibrary6 is my favorite mod

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papers please

flat forum Jul 29, 2018, 7:50 AM

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milliS

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But I already told you

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whenever I create something I just press the make file thing and don't name them

copper nacelle Jul 29, 2018, 7:50 AM

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ok this is unacceptable

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flat forum Jul 29, 2018, 7:50 AM

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emtpy

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gotta fix this

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eventually

compact sedge Jul 29, 2018, 7:51 AM

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this place is an angle

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lpt write all your text in a program with spellcheck and then copy it to the ide

copper nacelle Jul 29, 2018, 7:51 AM

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have you considered a list

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flat forum Jul 29, 2018, 7:51 AM

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56 shut

compact sedge Jul 29, 2018, 7:51 AM

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a list would be nice, so would a switch

copper nacelle Jul 29, 2018, 7:51 AM

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i should pr this

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but also

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effort

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but also

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this hurts me on the inside

compact sedge Jul 29, 2018, 7:51 AM

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56 if u send a pr pls also change the name of the project

flat forum Jul 29, 2018, 7:52 AM

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no

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wait

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don't

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yet

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I will take care of that in the final version

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please

copper nacelle Jul 29, 2018, 7:52 AM

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how do i check a fieldinfo's type value type tho

compact sedge Jul 29, 2018, 7:52 AM

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imo take the free help if you can get it

copper nacelle Jul 29, 2018, 7:52 AM

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without getting a value

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don't say get the value and then get the type

compact sedge Jul 29, 2018, 7:52 AM

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oh true I guess a list is the best way

copper nacelle Jul 29, 2018, 7:52 AM

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or i will murder you in your sleep

compact sedge Jul 29, 2018, 7:52 AM

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actually

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don't do a list

copper nacelle Jul 29, 2018, 7:52 AM

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array

compact sedge Jul 29, 2018, 7:52 AM

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do an array

copper nacelle Jul 29, 2018, 7:52 AM

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2slow

compact sedge Jul 29, 2018, 7:53 AM

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it sent first on my screen

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papers whose message sent first

copper nacelle Jul 29, 2018, 7:53 AM

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hit ctrl+r

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cause i did that and mine is still first for me

compact sedge Jul 29, 2018, 7:53 AM

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motherfucker

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you did it first

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but only because I typed out do an

copper nacelle Jul 29, 2018, 7:53 AM

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i had to say it before you did

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it was of vital importance

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to my soul

flat forum Jul 29, 2018, 7:54 AM

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whose message?

copper nacelle Jul 29, 2018, 7:54 AM

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thinking

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flat forum Jul 29, 2018, 7:54 AM

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uh

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yeah

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that's apradoxical

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but it broke otherwise

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so

copper nacelle Jul 29, 2018, 7:55 AM

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apradoxical

compact sedge Jul 29, 2018, 7:55 AM

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Papers pls switch to this right now don't wait for the final version

private static readonly string[] gameobjectsToCheck = new [] {
"Zap Cloud", "Mage Door"
};

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and then

copper nacelle Jul 29, 2018, 7:55 AM

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your naming never fails to disgust me

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also no need for new []

compact sedge Jul 29, 2018, 7:56 AM

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foreach (string s in gameobjectsToCheck) {
    if (go.name.Contains(s)) 
         Destroy(go);
}```

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which converts to a linq

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but I forgot how

copper nacelle Jul 29, 2018, 7:56 AM

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really?

compact sedge Jul 29, 2018, 7:56 AM

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probably

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yeah

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it would

copper nacelle Jul 29, 2018, 7:56 AM

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wat

compact sedge Jul 29, 2018, 7:56 AM

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gameobjectsToCheck.any

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something like that

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I just let rider generate my linqs for me

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cuz I sure af can't write them by hand even if I understand what they're doing

copper nacelle Jul 29, 2018, 7:57 AM

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god damn it

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my rider broke

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i can't type anything

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thank u rider

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had to restart it

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oh

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nice

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i read that wrong

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yeah that'd be a linq for sure

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if (s.Any(i => go.name.Contains(i))
    Destroy(go);

flat forum Jul 29, 2018, 8:01 AM

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56

copper nacelle Jul 29, 2018, 8:01 AM

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yes

flat forum Jul 29, 2018, 8:01 AM

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make Lost Lord fill your soul to max whenever you enter the Dream

copper nacelle Jul 29, 2018, 8:01 AM

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h

flat forum Jul 29, 2018, 8:01 AM

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I'm too lazy to refill it otherwise

copper nacelle Jul 29, 2018, 8:01 AM

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h

📎 LostLord.dll

flat forum Jul 29, 2018, 8:03 AM

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that was quick

copper nacelle Jul 29, 2018, 8:03 AM

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HeroController.instance.AddMPChargeSpa(999);

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to be tbh honestly honest to be tbh honest to

flat forum Jul 29, 2018, 8:03 AM

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is that...

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is that the only thing

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really?!

copper nacelle Jul 29, 2018, 8:03 AM

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yes

flat forum Jul 29, 2018, 8:03 AM

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wow

copper nacelle Jul 29, 2018, 8:04 AM

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404 sleep not found

flat forum Jul 29, 2018, 8:04 AM

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no

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try again

copper nacelle Jul 29, 2018, 8:04 AM

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4:04 am

flat forum Jul 29, 2018, 8:04 AM

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turn it off and on again

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56 do the big sleep

copper nacelle Jul 29, 2018, 8:04 AM

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never

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my phone isn't charged

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so i cannot

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i wanna wake up by like

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9

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i'm so fucking tired tbh

flat forum Jul 29, 2018, 8:06 AM

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sleep then you absolute receipt

copper nacelle Jul 29, 2018, 8:07 AM

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noot

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i have to wake up for no reason at all

flat forum Jul 29, 2018, 8:07 AM

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d o n ' t

copper nacelle Jul 29, 2018, 8:07 AM

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but i must

flat forum Jul 29, 2018, 8:08 AM

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you mustn't

copper nacelle Jul 29, 2018, 8:10 AM

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i mustntn't

flat forum Jul 29, 2018, 8:10 AM

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you mustn'tn'tn't

copper nacelle Jul 29, 2018, 8:10 AM

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I mustn'tn'tn'tn't

flat forum Jul 29, 2018, 8:10 AM

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You mustn'tn'tn'tn'tn't

copper nacelle Jul 29, 2018, 8:11 AM

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that but with n't again

flat forum Jul 29, 2018, 8:11 AM

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that but with two n'ts

copper nacelle Jul 29, 2018, 8:12 AM

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*three

flat forum Jul 29, 2018, 8:12 AM

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4

copper nacelle Jul 29, 2018, 8:12 AM

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5

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odd numbers only thank

flat forum Jul 29, 2018, 8:12 AM

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56, I'm odler than you. You ought to pay more respect to your village's Elders

copper nacelle Jul 29, 2018, 8:13 AM

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odler

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also capitalizing elders for no reason

flat forum Jul 29, 2018, 8:13 AM

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*oldlerer

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yes

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any more mistakes and it would've been obvious

lost rune Jul 29, 2018, 2:42 PM

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how do I download bonfire mod?

steep sail Jul 29, 2018, 2:43 PM

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#archived-modding-help

cunning lagoon Jul 29, 2018, 2:50 PM

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@compact sedge big meme https://i.imgur.com/z15AP5S.gifv

Imgur

compact sedge Jul 29, 2018, 3:34 PM

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oh lol

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I'll fix that

river eagle Jul 29, 2018, 3:37 PM

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Is this the new infinite grimm or some other mod?

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Looks interesting

compact sedge Jul 29, 2018, 3:50 PM

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yeah this is infinite grimm

eternal mist Jul 29, 2018, 4:05 PM

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hey i counldt find what the Charm Notch Mod (Seanpr) does on google , i am still new on the discord group

compact sedge Jul 29, 2018, 4:05 PM

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mod descriptions are pinned to #archived-modding-help as the second link

eternal mist Jul 29, 2018, 4:10 PM

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ty man

viral narwhal Jul 29, 2018, 4:24 PM

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is there ever going to be a Hornet mod or will we just wait for hopefully for a hornet DLC?

compact sedge Jul 29, 2018, 4:24 PM

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I mean modding isn't that hard if you would like to make one

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Oh modding isn't so hard? Are you kidding me? When was the last time you saw a game with such FSMs and Unityness?

slow fable Jul 29, 2018, 4:31 PM

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i'm hoping to learn how to code so i can make video games, would you guys recommend modding hk as a start

compact sedge Jul 29, 2018, 4:33 PM

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tbh I have no idea what the best way to learn to code is but surely you want a tradeoff between something that's easy to do and something that's fun to program. and with regards to that modding doesn't seem like a terrible idea.

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hollow knight is written in a language called c# which I have many problems with but it's easy to learn and very similar to java which is the language that most schools teach in computer science classes (for some reason).

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but on the other hand a lot of HK modding as with any game modding is learning how the game does stuff internally and that's a lot of extra stuff for someone who doesn't know coding.

rain cedar Jul 29, 2018, 4:36 PM

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My school has mainly focused on asm, c, and c++ in my courses

compact sedge Jul 29, 2018, 4:36 PM

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asm

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ouch

rain cedar Jul 29, 2018, 4:36 PM

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There was some java though

slow fable Jul 29, 2018, 4:36 PM

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well, i know the basics of coding

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i think looking at the code would maybe be cool

compact sedge Jul 29, 2018, 4:37 PM

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I "learned" modding by copying segments of code from many other mods

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it only took 1.5 mods made this way for me to be able to write some original code

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but I still copy code when it exists because lazy

slow fable Jul 29, 2018, 4:39 PM

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so that's another reason to look forward to getting hk on steam
i could make stuff
really don't want to have to wait, but i'm broke

compact sedge Jul 29, 2018, 4:40 PM

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~~I mean I don't see why you couldn't create a mod for the pirated version~~

rain cedar Jul 29, 2018, 4:41 PM

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👀

compact sedge Jul 29, 2018, 4:42 PM

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you have a lifeblood version (1.3 +)?? @slow fable

slow fable Jul 29, 2018, 4:42 PM

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yeah, on switch

compact sedge Jul 29, 2018, 4:42 PM

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o i c

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yeah sorry the switch version is probably never getting modding capibility

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when you said you wanted to get hk on steam I thought you meant something else entirely

slow fable Jul 29, 2018, 4:44 PM

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nope, wouldn't dare pirate something
my mom's really tech savvy, she'd find out

compact sedge Jul 29, 2018, 4:44 PM

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if you were tech savvy you'd avoid pirating software

slow fable Jul 29, 2018, 4:46 PM

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i think my first mod will be a "simple" charm thing, replacing every charm with new ones
i already have some ideas

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does anyone have a list of all new charms added in lightbringer
i don't want to copy

compact sedge Jul 29, 2018, 4:47 PM

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it doesn't add new charms it adds new effects to existing charms and don't worry about it

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it affects almost every charm and the charms it doesn't affect blackmoth surely would

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if you need a list here you go https://github.com/5FiftySix6/Lightbringer/blob/master/Lightbringer/Lightbringer.cs#L29

flat forum Jul 29, 2018, 6:23 PM

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wait

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I just now thought

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I can do an or for the code

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so, if the name contains
A or B or C or D etc.
Delete

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will that work?

copper nacelle Jul 29, 2018, 6:24 PM

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make an array

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thank

flat forum Jul 29, 2018, 6:24 PM

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how dat work

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lemme check

rain cedar Jul 29, 2018, 6:27 PM

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private static string[] names = new string[] { "A", "B", "C", "D"  };```

solemn rivet Jul 29, 2018, 7:19 PM

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There's also Charming which is basically that

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vitellary

buoyant obsidian Jul 29, 2018, 7:24 PM

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don't worry about copying Lightbringer, if you try not to copy you won't be able to have a nice balance of charms for your mod

flat forum Jul 29, 2018, 7:39 PM

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Hey, I know a guy that made a mod that changes how some nail related charms work

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COUGH me COUGH

copper nacelle Jul 29, 2018, 7:40 PM

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yes 'tis I

rain cedar Jul 29, 2018, 7:40 PM

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Hi I

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I'm Sean

copper nacelle Jul 29, 2018, 7:40 PM

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elderbug

flat forum Jul 29, 2018, 7:40 PM

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Nay, I!

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Thou art Wrong

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and thou hast the large homosexual

copper nacelle Jul 29, 2018, 7:42 PM

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u

flat forum Jul 29, 2018, 7:42 PM

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wronkk english

rain cedar Jul 29, 2018, 7:42 PM

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thee

flat forum Jul 29, 2018, 7:43 PM

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I shall succeed in what 56 has failed again and again

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I will go to sleep at a reasonable time

copper nacelle Jul 29, 2018, 7:44 PM

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shalt isn't used with first person my guy

flat forum Jul 29, 2018, 7:44 PM

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o oops

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I mean

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what are you talking about

copper nacelle Jul 29, 2018, 7:44 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/460461069173784586.png?v=1

flat forum Jul 29, 2018, 7:45 PM

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smh my head, posting links instead of the actual image?

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what's this, CronyWoker?

kind quartz Jul 29, 2018, 9:16 PM

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Can anyone help me?

young walrus Jul 29, 2018, 9:16 PM

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#archived-modding-help

kind quartz Jul 29, 2018, 9:16 PM

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thanks

compact sedge Jul 29, 2018, 10:05 PM

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anyone know what layers other than 11 and 17 can contain things that damage the player?

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Royal Gaurd\Corpse Royal Guard(Clone)
nice naming tc

rain cedar Jul 29, 2018, 10:07 PM

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There's an enum somewhere

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Called PhysLayers

compact sedge Jul 29, 2018, 10:08 PM

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looks like 8 is valid

copper nacelle Jul 29, 2018, 10:12 PM

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hollow knight machine broke

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hollow pier Jul 29, 2018, 10:16 PM

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looks fine to me

river eagle Jul 29, 2018, 10:17 PM

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Works for me hollowface

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Have you tried turning it off and on again?

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hollowface

copper nacelle Jul 29, 2018, 10:18 PM

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cornywoke

compact sedge Jul 29, 2018, 10:34 PM

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anyone know what the thorns in WP are called

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trying to figure out how the game makes it so you can't pogo

copper nacelle Jul 29, 2018, 10:36 PM

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@flat forum https://github.com/FoldingPapers/DeadHallownest/pull/1 hhhhhhhh

GitHub

stuff by 5FiftySix6 · Pull Request #1 · FoldingPapers/DeadHallownest

rain cedar Jul 29, 2018, 10:36 PM

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@compact sedge NonBouncer component

compact sedge Jul 29, 2018, 10:36 PM

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thank you so much

copper nacelle Jul 29, 2018, 10:39 PM

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wtf

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rain cedar Jul 29, 2018, 10:40 PM

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Yeah they just use it as a flag essentially

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Check if it exists in other components

copper nacelle Jul 29, 2018, 10:40 PM

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ah

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yeah found it

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rain cedar Jul 29, 2018, 10:40 PM

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BounceShroom there is also a stub I think

compact sedge Jul 29, 2018, 11:12 PM

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sorry to ruin your cheese strats. Sorry not sorry.

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solemn rivet Jul 29, 2018, 11:14 PM

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AA = Satan

cunning lagoon Jul 29, 2018, 11:19 PM

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i like how that looks

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make him ahrder dad

dark wigeon Jul 29, 2018, 11:19 PM

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lol what is this Woah there! The owner of Hollow Knight has requested that Discord block any messages our mostly-accurate robo-hamsters deem to be explicit. Seems like you found one, so your message has not been sent. Please be nice

solemn rivet Jul 29, 2018, 11:19 PM

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be polite nes

dark wigeon Jul 29, 2018, 11:20 PM

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📎 Unity_2018-07-29_18-19-02.png

solemn rivet Jul 29, 2018, 11:20 PM

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u lewd

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das lewd m8

dark wigeon Jul 29, 2018, 11:20 PM

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lol i just took another screenshot and it worked

compact sedge Jul 29, 2018, 11:20 PM

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delet

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nsfw

solemn rivet Jul 29, 2018, 11:20 PM

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reported

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btw, I love how that's looking

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managed to get backgrounds working?

dark wigeon Jul 29, 2018, 11:20 PM

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nope, and floors are missing on all indoor maps

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still lookin into it 😐

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unity doesn't really have the best api

solemn rivet Jul 29, 2018, 11:21 PM

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:/

dark wigeon Jul 29, 2018, 11:21 PM

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its sad wpf is so much easier than unity

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fsms are almost done in unity too

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solemn rivet Jul 29, 2018, 11:23 PM

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I love u

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marry me

dark wigeon Jul 29, 2018, 11:24 PM

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yes, the arrows are > and < s, thanks for the suggestion

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sadly looks like unity cant handle unicode arrows

solemn rivet Jul 29, 2018, 11:24 PM

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nothing wrong with using <>

dark wigeon Jul 29, 2018, 11:24 PM

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i tried all of these http://xahlee.info/comp/unicode_arrows.html but they didnt show up

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not all but most

compact sedge Jul 29, 2018, 11:25 PM

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I mean > and < look fine you can just make the font size big

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and they'll basically look like arrows

dark wigeon Jul 29, 2018, 11:25 PM

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I also tried drawing it manually with gl but it didn't work at all

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yeah I'm going to change font size, but the label system is really stupid so I have to reposition everything on the y pos everytime I change font size

compact sedge Jul 29, 2018, 11:25 PM

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wow that's silly

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 12:23 AM

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see if this works

📎 HKEdit.zip

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using 5.6.4f1

solemn rivet Jul 30, 2018, 12:25 AM

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dokidoki

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 12:25 AM

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what about

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or did you mean

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solemn rivet Jul 30, 2018, 12:27 AM

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weeb mems

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 12:28 AM

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I don't know if the imaging stuff will work on linux
if it doesn't just tell me

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 12:30 AM

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I can test in a bit

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I need a specific version of unity or no?

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oh ok

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 12:32 AM

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any 5.6 will do

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I lucked out as hollow knight uses the same version as subnautica uses so I didn't have to do any modifications

fair rampart Jul 30, 2018, 12:49 AM

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lightbringer

solemn rivet Jul 30, 2018, 12:52 AM

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lightbringer

copper nacelle Jul 30, 2018, 1:45 AM

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darktaker

hollow pier Jul 30, 2018, 1:59 AM

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📎 Z.png

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 2:04 AM

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Happy to report I'm finally... after what was wayyyyy too much time... adding one hit mode and time attack.

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much to graig's disappointment that I didn't do this 3 months ago I'm sure but /shrug

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time attack will disable stuns. One hit will not just because stuns give you a much needed breather. And yes you can combine them both together

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wow that was easy. I should have done this earlier. Sorry y'all

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copper nacelle Jul 30, 2018, 2:15 AM

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@warped sinew

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 2:21 AM

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I still need to work out a few bugs tho

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and disable pufferfish

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but not spikes. There is a way to "disable" grimm using the spikes attack (turning on NGG spikes) but it is high risk high reward

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huh. so setting the hp to 0 causes it to stop recording score and all that (so your score is accurate). But it doesn't actually kill you.

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and neither does PlayerData.instance.TakeHealth

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ok

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TakeDamage does tho

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 2:45 AM

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did you get the level viewer to work

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 2:48 AM

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uh

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holdon

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lemme install unity real quick

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 2:48 AM

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you know the dl link for 5.6 right

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 2:48 AM

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yeah I have 5.6.3

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just need to install it

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 2:49 AM

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ah

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some things still look weird, they probably used a shader

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not really a big deal tho

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here's proj with tags+layers

📎 HKEdit2.zip

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 2:57 AM

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sorry turns out unity takes forever to extract

copper nacelle Jul 30, 2018, 3:11 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/283467363729408000/473325056462946304/unknown.png

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meme

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 3:23 AM

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Look, I was gonna go easy on you not to hurt your feelings, but I'm only gonna get this one chance...

(6 minutes... 6 minutes... 6 minutes Redwing... you're on...)

That's right. One hit mode and time attack mode are here in the newest infinite grimm alpha. It's time to give your audiance a feeling like it's levitating.

📎 infinitegrimm.dll

copper nacelle Jul 30, 2018, 3:23 AM

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ngg spikes and such right?

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also nice rap god

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 3:23 AM

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they're still there yes

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(why be a nightmare king when you can be a nightmare god)

copper nacelle Jul 30, 2018, 3:24 AM

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nice

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i really love it when changing hk versions means my language changes and cutscene skipping is slower

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@compact sedge nice fury support that doesn't exist

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sadgrub

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 3:31 AM

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sorry it was supposed to happen but grimm heals you

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I'll add it before the final version

copper nacelle Jul 30, 2018, 3:31 AM

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cool

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can i just set my max hp as 1 till then

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 3:32 AM

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yes why not

copper nacelle Jul 30, 2018, 3:32 AM

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nice

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 3:33 AM

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I wanted to upload 1 alpha per day and I'm done coding for the night

warped sinew Jul 30, 2018, 3:35 AM

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Yeeeeeees

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IG finally good amirite?

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 3:36 AM

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nah still shit sry

copper nacelle Jul 30, 2018, 3:37 AM

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fury machine broke

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won't give me fury with a max of 1

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noot

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 3:37 AM

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rip

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Probably will have it fixed by tomorrow but have homework and procratinating to do until then

floral furnace Jul 30, 2018, 3:37 AM

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r e m o v e f u r y

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 3:38 AM

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tbh. I think the ultimate goal now... IDK if it's even human possible but... 15k damage in 6 minutes. And if it can be done it will definitely require fotf

copper nacelle Jul 30, 2018, 3:46 AM

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not great but whatever

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compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 3:46 AM

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sorry about the no fury

copper nacelle Jul 30, 2018, 3:46 AM

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all good

solemn rivet Jul 30, 2018, 3:56 AM

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Fury gets procc'd by a take damage event

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You need to send that

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 3:57 AM

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no the player does take damage

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but grimm heals the knight

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as in that intro sequence with the title card

solemn rivet Jul 30, 2018, 3:57 AM

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I mean, if you set the max hp to 1, fury won't work

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Because the fsm first checks for damage taken, and only then it checks if you have 1hp

copper nacelle Jul 30, 2018, 3:59 AM

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oh

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shit

solemn rivet Jul 30, 2018, 4:00 AM

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So for the onehpmod I made for niko, I set it to 1 and manually triggered the fury effects

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 4:00 AM

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is fury automatically retained until heal or damage taken regardless of the player's health?

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could I force fury storage by enabling it manually and leave the player with whatever their health is?

solemn rivet Jul 30, 2018, 4:01 AM

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Maybe

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I know it checks for heal to exit the state

rain cedar Jul 30, 2018, 4:03 AM

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Yes AA

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There used to be a bug where picking up charm notches for the healing kept the fury effect

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 4:09 AM

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that's actually really useful for me right now

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 5:51 AM

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Well

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56 rewrote, like, 3/4 of my code

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and it actually looks good now

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so

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many thancc

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@copper nacelle

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I just wanted to ask you - there are a few that will affect everything with a certain word in it, have you tried that out?

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does it break the game?

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I'm still about to test it

warped sinew Jul 30, 2018, 8:29 AM

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hey on the google drive, it would be much easier to find the mods if they were listed as MOD NAME - AUTHOR instead of AUTHOR - MOD NAME

leaden hedge Jul 30, 2018, 8:29 AM

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i say this all the time

warped sinew Jul 30, 2018, 8:30 AM

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i was looking for mod common and was like hmmm who made it again..... oh yeah kerr

fair rampart Jul 30, 2018, 9:22 AM

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any mods that will improve my performance?

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also does vsync matter if i use controller to play?

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 9:28 AM

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#archived-modding-help

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GPZ>NKG

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NKGPZ

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Infinite GPZ

warped sinew Jul 30, 2018, 10:44 AM

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Hey @compact sedge there is a bug in your IG

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sometimes his fire pillar attack comes out instantly and kills you

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 10:45 AM

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You mean

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the red glow hurts you?

warped sinew Jul 30, 2018, 10:45 AM

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its unavoidable, even if you are mid dash while he does it you die

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQEzIiCEp48

YouTube

shad0ex

blah

▶ Play video

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i know it looks like i just stand there but this is coming out way faster than normal. It doesnt happen everytime

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 10:45 AM

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yeah, it's just the glow

warped sinew Jul 30, 2018, 10:46 AM

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also it never happens mid fight

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 10:46 AM

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had the same problem

warped sinew Jul 30, 2018, 10:46 AM

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its like sometimes the fight loads and the fire pillars come out fast

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well the glow yeah

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again even if you are mid dash you die lol

warped sinew Jul 30, 2018, 11:25 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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thats my best for now, but i gotta get back to GnG testing 😦

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the mod is great tho

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 11:26 AM

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AAAAA

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how's GnG tho?

warped sinew Jul 30, 2018, 11:26 AM

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loving it, cant wait for fury to be able to be used!

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 11:26 AM

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are bosses harder than NKG?

warped sinew Jul 30, 2018, 11:27 AM

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youll have to wait and see

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😃

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 11:27 AM

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HURMURAAAAAAAAA

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TFW Glorified FotF just makes you stronger based on health lost

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and I totally didn't come up with that 2 months ago

leaden hedge Jul 30, 2018, 11:27 AM

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unless fury saves like more time than we spend fighing bosses it won't be used in speedruns

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that wouldn't even make it good

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 11:27 AM

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I mean, it'll be better than it is now

leaden hedge Jul 30, 2018, 11:28 AM

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fury would be good if it gave like +4 base damage and +25% nail range

warped sinew Jul 30, 2018, 11:28 AM

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fury is used in 106% at the start

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im pretty sure

leaden hedge Jul 30, 2018, 11:28 AM

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yeah for fc and hornet

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then dropped for the rest of the run

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any% isn't going to use it because new patch is hella slow

warped sinew Jul 30, 2018, 11:28 AM

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the problem really is that you get shaman stone way to early

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in graig edit it will be moved

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^_^

leaden hedge Jul 30, 2018, 11:29 AM

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and 106% won't use it for very long because ugprading nail makes bosses have too much hp

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the warriors take considerably longer if you get even 1 nail upgrade

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 11:29 AM

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Warriors?

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Soul Warriors?

leaden hedge Jul 30, 2018, 11:29 AM

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dream warriors

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 11:29 AM

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Oh

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Ok

warped sinew Jul 30, 2018, 11:30 AM

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i know KDT, im the one who came up with the idea of using nail 0 for the run. Mon and I were going back and forth on nail 0 vs nail 1 😃

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turns out cos fluke is so hax you dont need nail at all lol

leaden hedge Jul 30, 2018, 11:30 AM

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but if fury gave range it could be used for spitless

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and if it gave base damage it'd make up for the fact you have to go to nailsmith to actually make it do damage

warped sinew Jul 30, 2018, 11:32 AM

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it should give damage and attack speed

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like your actually furied

leaden hedge Jul 30, 2018, 11:32 AM

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attack speed basically does nothing anyway

warped sinew Jul 30, 2018, 11:32 AM

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ehhh no

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quick slash destroys most of the bosses in the game

leaden hedge Jul 30, 2018, 11:32 AM

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with 50% atk spd fights aren't 50% faster

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even with fury you anim cancel with fireball

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the only bosses that'd get noticablely faster with attack speed would be fc, hornet1, dung defender, white defender, troupe grimm, collector and uumuu afaik

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most other bosses the optimal strat would be very similar regardless of faster attacks

warped sinew Jul 30, 2018, 12:48 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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the arena starts closing in at 4k HP lol

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this mod is great

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@compact sedge gj dude

buoyant obsidian Jul 30, 2018, 2:24 PM

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Quick slash makes fights easier by allowing you to reach breaks to heal much quicker

leaden hedge Jul 30, 2018, 2:42 PM

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so nothing a speedrunner ever has to do

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and also something that speedrunners aren't affected by 🤔

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nor would you even want to do if you're running fury

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 2:43 PM

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Nothing against you guys but in my opinion, charms shouldn't be balanced around the speedrun.

leaden hedge Jul 30, 2018, 2:43 PM

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except thats the exact use case of fury

rain cedar Jul 30, 2018, 2:43 PM

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Speedrunning HK in 2018 LUL

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 2:43 PM

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wdym

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what makes fury any different from say, spore shroom insofar as being a useless charm for speedrunning

tranquil glen Jul 30, 2018, 2:44 PM

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Fury isn't useless

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 2:44 PM

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fine, useless for the any%

rain cedar Jul 30, 2018, 2:44 PM

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It's niche

leaden hedge Jul 30, 2018, 2:44 PM

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you have to be at 1hp so you have to know the bosses inside out to make use which has 2 cases
challenge runs -> why would you double your damage on a challenge run
speedruns -> ???

tranquil glen Jul 30, 2018, 2:44 PM

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In longer runs if you stay at 1 HP it can more than make up for the pickup time

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Just extremely difficult

leaden hedge Jul 30, 2018, 2:45 PM

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and not even fast

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as longer runs get good spells

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 2:45 PM

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if it's designed as something to be used for speedrunning then maybe it should buff spell dmg too

leaden hedge Jul 30, 2018, 2:45 PM

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which way out damage fury for no risk

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 2:45 PM

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that's the only way out of this I can see

leaden hedge Jul 30, 2018, 2:45 PM

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yeah buff spell damage which is already broken

rain cedar Jul 30, 2018, 2:45 PM

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TE optimally uses it despite getting shade soul

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To 1 cycle Uumuu

leaden hedge Jul 30, 2018, 2:45 PM

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can't wait for 240 damage shrieks

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 2:46 PM

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well if spell damage is already broken then there is an alternative

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nerf vanilla spell dmg so the effects of it buffing the nail matter more

leaden hedge Jul 30, 2018, 2:46 PM

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people don't use spells casually

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so they don't need nerfing

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 2:46 PM

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remove spells from game

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/s

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although that would solve the problem

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any% no spells?

leaden hedge Jul 30, 2018, 2:47 PM

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probably just as fast to just get nail1

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and that doesnt require 1hp

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i guess you could do both

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i mean the really easy fix is to make fury give base damage so its actually good with nail0 🤔

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75% of fuck all is still fuck all

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 2:49 PM

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how much base damage would you think is balanced?

leaden hedge Jul 30, 2018, 2:49 PM

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+4 would probably be fine

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you'd still keep a % bonus

rain cedar Jul 30, 2018, 2:49 PM

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That's nothing at nail 4 though

leaden hedge Jul 30, 2018, 2:50 PM

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itd be like +4 and +50%

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so nail 4 would still get a big bonus

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but it'd actually be useful for nail0

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 2:50 PM

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+4 and +50% would be the same for max nail as right now

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I like it

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it would go from 36.75 -> 37 to 37.5 -> 37

rain cedar Jul 30, 2018, 2:51 PM

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I don't think it rounds like that

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Should go 37->38

leaden hedge Jul 30, 2018, 2:51 PM

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think it always rounds up

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 2:51 PM

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no sean is right

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it rounds up on .5

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easy hack is making it +4 and +49%?

rain cedar Jul 30, 2018, 2:52 PM

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1 extra damage doesn't really matter

leaden hedge Jul 30, 2018, 2:52 PM

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most people with fury would run f str anyway

rain cedar Jul 30, 2018, 2:52 PM

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This isn't gonna happen anyway

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And if it did it would be completely irrelevant because current patch is already unusable

leaden hedge Jul 30, 2018, 2:52 PM

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which is 54

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 2:52 PM

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the weird thing is this

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fstrength + fury makes fury round down

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because if fstrength is on fury becomes an fsmfloat

leaden hedge Jul 30, 2018, 2:53 PM

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make them put lever skip back in

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and inv drop

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 2:53 PM

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actually fstrength + fury + nail 1 would probably be 21 damage exactly if it was +4 and +50%

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imo tc should rethink their damage calculation math tho to avoid using fsmfloats

leaden hedge Jul 30, 2018, 2:55 PM

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it'd be pretty nice if there was a way to get f str too without farming

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600 geo for a nail charm vs 220 geo later on for a spell charm

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 2:56 PM

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sly's an asshole

leaden hedge Jul 30, 2018, 2:56 PM

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just let me kill him for f str

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also just because it doesn't matter for any% nmg, both all bosses and 10x% would get to use it intenseface

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and im sure both of those categories would really love to be at 1 hp for half the run

rain cedar Jul 30, 2018, 2:59 PM

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We'll see

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Gng will have to be really good to get me to run anything

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With all the crap changes

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TC should hire letters imo

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They think alike

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 3:02 PM

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probably never gonna become a speedrunner

solemn rivet Jul 30, 2018, 3:04 PM

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don't speak that name, Sean

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you just might summon it here

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it's like haramboi

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cursed names

leaden hedge Jul 30, 2018, 3:06 PM

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maybe they'll add a toggle in gng to unfix all the shit hollowomg

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 3:06 PM

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I love learning cursed names

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that's like the 3rd one I know now

solemn rivet Jul 30, 2018, 3:07 PM

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what are the other two?

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 3:07 PM

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well you said the other one and then Kein

solemn rivet Jul 30, 2018, 3:07 PM

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Kein isn't cursed

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 3:07 PM

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did you know he's in the credits?

solemn rivet Jul 30, 2018, 3:07 PM

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Kein is DMCA'd, which is not the same thing

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yeah, I saw you mentioning it

odd jetty Jul 30, 2018, 3:08 PM

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So, the rounding for damage is the normal rules? Like, 0.75 to 1 and 0.3 to 0?

solemn rivet Jul 30, 2018, 3:08 PM

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you should edit the credits and replace his name with a <redacted>

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 3:08 PM

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~~well he isn't anymore... what's he gonna do dmca me for taking out his name~~

solemn rivet Jul 30, 2018, 3:08 PM

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cerberus - it depends

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what damage are you talking about?

odd jetty Jul 30, 2018, 3:09 PM

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Any

solemn rivet Jul 30, 2018, 3:09 PM

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it varies

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like, wildly

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 3:09 PM

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the rules are bizzare af and I wrote them down in the hk wiki server some time ago so I could join it and paste them here

solemn rivet Jul 30, 2018, 3:09 PM

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like

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fury by its own rounds up, but, like AA said above, fury+fstr rounds down

odd jetty Jul 30, 2018, 3:10 PM

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I think it looks like a oversight

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 3:11 PM

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Great Slash              2.5x Nail (rounded nearest, which is always rounded down)
Great Slash + FotF + Glory 4.375x Nail (rounded nearest)
Fury of the Fallen    1.75 x Nail (rounded nearest)
Fragile Strength    1.50 x Nail (1.5x rounded to nearest)
Fury of the Fallen + Fragile Strength 2.625 x Nail (1.5x rounded to nearest and multiplied by 1.75x which is rounded down)
Thorns of Agony    2.00 x Nail (N/A)
Sharp Shadow    1.00 x Nail (N/A)
Sharp Shadow + Dashmaster 1.5 x Nail (nearest)
Grubberfly's Elegy    0.5 x Nail (nearest)
Grubberfly's Elegy + Fury of the Fallen 0.875 x Nail (nearest)
Grubberfly's Elegy + Fragile Strength =  0.75 x Nail (nearest)
Grubberfly's Elegy + Fury of the Fallen + Fragile Strength 1.3125 x Nail (nearest)

Here is what I tested

leaden hedge Jul 30, 2018, 3:11 PM

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i think one shouldn't think too hard about hk math

odd jetty Jul 30, 2018, 3:11 PM

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like, using the wrong function for rounding or setting

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 3:12 PM

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so it's really just FotF + FS that are weird

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but the problem is

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that's like a really common combo

floral furnace Jul 30, 2018, 3:12 PM

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good luck KDT cuz GnG is literally just a math quiz game mode

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 3:12 PM

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0.5 rounds up

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which is good because many of these multipliers cause 0.5

odd jetty Jul 30, 2018, 3:13 PM

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wait, the 1.5x is rounded before beign multiplied?

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 3:13 PM

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yes

odd jetty Jul 30, 2018, 3:13 PM

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Wat

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 3:13 PM

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otherwise the multiplier is gotten first and then that number is rounded

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but not with those two

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also notice how grubberfly's doesn't have that problem

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but the basic attack does

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so it does slightly more than 0.5x dmg when you have fotf and fs

odd jetty Jul 30, 2018, 3:14 PM

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I bet they just used the wrong function for rounding

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 3:14 PM

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no it's that Fury of the Fallen becomes a fsmfloat "multiplier"

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but only in that specific situation

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otherwise the base damage is multiplied and rounded by tc in code

odd jetty Jul 30, 2018, 3:15 PM

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So, a unity glitch?

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 3:15 PM

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no

odd jetty Jul 30, 2018, 3:15 PM

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Or just math is weird

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 3:15 PM

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tc's fault

odd jetty Jul 30, 2018, 3:15 PM

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ah, I see

warped sinew Jul 30, 2018, 3:47 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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oh baby

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 3:53 PM

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I'm not sure if the flame pillar bug only happens on certain hardware configurations, if it's so rare that I'm unable to get it, or if it was fixed in lifeblood beta but in either case I cannot get my chracter to die to it the way you did.

steep sail Jul 30, 2018, 3:55 PM

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Hmmm... Who is author of EnemyHPBar mod? It`s bugged

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Resizing window through settings makes bar move right at half of screen

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 4:02 PM

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That's Gradow

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and KDT a bit

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another bug with EnemyHPBars is that whenever you hit a spike the HP bars disapepar

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...

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disapepar

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 4:05 PM

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disapaper

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 4:06 PM

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cornywoke

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What if I make a mod where everyone in Hallownest Disapapers?

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 4:12 PM

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lol figured out why the ngg fight was so laggy

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I had this somehow sneak it's way into the Update function after a small update to fix regular NKG

memeBullshitGrimm.PrintSceneHierarchyTree("file.txt");

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 4:13 PM

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Fixx it

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 4:14 PM

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fixed

📎 infinitegrimm.dll

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 4:14 PM

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also, gotta split NGG category now that Spikes are easy

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 4:14 PM

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fixed but untested

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normal ngg spikes are normal

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the easy ngg spikes are a thing in regular nkg hardmode

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 4:16 PM

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maybe they looked slow because of the lag

cunning lagoon Jul 30, 2018, 4:17 PM

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what

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 4:18 PM

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try it and tell me how unplayable it is I'm in school right now and can't test

cunning lagoon Jul 30, 2018, 4:18 PM

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the fight is actually playable now

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holy shit

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 4:18 PM

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which one?

cunning lagoon Jul 30, 2018, 4:18 PM

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ngg

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 4:18 PM

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the ngg

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 4:18 PM

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did you nerf anything?

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 4:18 PM

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no

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just greatly optimized it

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 4:18 PM

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then why?

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 4:18 PM

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also removed a line that made it run really slow

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 4:18 PM

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make the lag reducing options affect it as well

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 4:18 PM

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they do

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now

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that's one of the optimizations

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the other one is the spike code

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 4:19 PM

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ok

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 4:19 PM

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is about 1000 times better

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 4:19 PM

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what was it like before?

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talking about bad code
cough deleting objects one by one cough

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 4:19 PM

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it was every frame doing about 150 string checks

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 4:19 PM

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COUGH I need to learn actual code COUGH

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 4:20 PM

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now its doing 0 string checks and it's only doing them every 5 seconds

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 4:20 PM

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heh

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hehehe

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 4:20 PM

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I'd estimate it's about 1000 times more efficient at the bare minimum but I have no way to benchmark c#

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probably more like 10k times

tranquil glen Jul 30, 2018, 4:25 PM

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Lol papers were you just going through every enemy in the game and deleting them one by one?

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 4:28 PM

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Nah, most were just removed with Layer 11

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but I went through everything that wasn't on layer 11 (so, quite a bunch of stuff) and removing it

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like, a bunch of enemies you can't damage are there

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but some you can also are there

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Also, Angle, I can't seem able to turn NGG mode on

tranquil glen Jul 30, 2018, 4:29 PM

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Will dead hallownest also remove all the plants Kappa

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 4:29 PM

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all living moving ones

tranquil glen Jul 30, 2018, 4:29 PM

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Ye but not the like grass

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Right?

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 4:30 PM

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no

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grass not consciously trying to kill you

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 4:36 PM

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what do you mean papers

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did you set the setting

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 4:36 PM

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you should kill layer 21

solemn rivet Jul 30, 2018, 4:37 PM

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Kill layer 69

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 4:37 PM

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what's on 21?

solemn rivet Jul 30, 2018, 4:37 PM

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Thank me later

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 4:37 PM

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damn u unity being limited to 32 layers

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 4:37 PM

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int is 32 bits

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sadly no multiple layers

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also who has the patience to add 73 tags

📎 unknown.png

solemn rivet Jul 30, 2018, 4:39 PM

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nes did you perchance ran into whatever it is that makes some enemies tink when you hit them with the nail, such as when they have shields or when they are baldurs?

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 4:39 PM

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what about it

solemn rivet Jul 30, 2018, 4:39 PM

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Is that simply a bool canTakeDamage or smth?

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 4:40 PM

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no, but if it's global, most likely it's in a global scene or resources.assets

solemn rivet Jul 30, 2018, 4:40 PM

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Hmm

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 4:41 PM

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shouldn't be too hard to find

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you know you can use the fsm viewer in unity now if you want to look yourself

solemn rivet Jul 30, 2018, 4:41 PM

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I want to make mawlek immune to spells, and to make sure the player knows that, I wanna make it tink when hit with a spell

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 4:41 PM

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ah ok

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want "fireball" to stop too?

solemn rivet Jul 30, 2018, 4:42 PM

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You mean, kill the prefab on contact?

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 4:42 PM

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yeah

solemn rivet Jul 30, 2018, 4:42 PM

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Would be great

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Also, when I have that all figured out and working, might be worth adding to the boss editor, AA

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To make bosses immune to certain types of damage

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 4:43 PM

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is there a boss editor?

solemn rivet Jul 30, 2018, 4:44 PM

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Well, not exactly

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AA turned his infinite grimm into a component so you can customize other bosses

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It's part of modcommon

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 4:45 PM

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a lot of scenes have this "nail_clash_tink"

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📎 unknown.png

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that's just one scene

steep sail Jul 30, 2018, 4:46 PM

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Gradow, KDT - your EnemyHPBar mod is bugged

solemn rivet Jul 30, 2018, 4:46 PM

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Ye

steep sail Jul 30, 2018, 4:47 PM

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Resizing window through the in-game settings makes hpbar move to right on half of its length

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 4:47 PM

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if y'all are gonna be using the unity editor in the future to configure hk then I hope it works out of the box with monobehaviors or I'm gonna feel silly having made my modcommon thing.

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 4:47 PM

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wdym configure hk

solemn rivet Jul 30, 2018, 4:47 PM

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I have no idea how to work with unity

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 4:47 PM

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same

steep sail Jul 30, 2018, 4:48 PM

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Almost same for me) jk, currently making small game with 2 pals

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 4:48 PM

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what I'd really like to ask the dev team is why everything is positioned 1.56% farther away than it should be, and why some gameobjects are reverse positioned

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 4:49 PM

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hmm

solemn rivet Jul 30, 2018, 4:49 PM

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I literally have no idea how to test what you sent yesterday nes

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 4:49 PM

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open unity, open the project, profit

solemn rivet Jul 30, 2018, 4:49 PM

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The knight is backwards, yup

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Does it have to be a specific version?

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 4:49 PM

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5.6.x

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iirc

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 4:49 PM

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yes

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aa did you get it to work?

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probably still installing smh /s

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 4:50 PM

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tbh yes

solemn rivet Jul 30, 2018, 4:50 PM

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Ok will try that ver

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 4:50 PM

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tbh put it off to fix bugs in ngg

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 4:51 PM

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gradow do you have it installed already but not 5.6.x?

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if you have 2017+ that may also work because I'm still handling everything manually

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it's only until we create bundles that 2017+ won't be supported

solemn rivet Jul 30, 2018, 4:52 PM

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I have the latest ver afaik

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But all it gives me is an empty canvas

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 4:52 PM

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when you open the project?

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📎 unknown.png

solemn rivet Jul 30, 2018, 4:53 PM

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lemme show u

steep sail Jul 30, 2018, 4:53 PM

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Alas, I have 2018.1.6f1

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Not 2017

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And there something like problems with opening old version projects

solemn rivet Jul 30, 2018, 4:54 PM

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same version tbh

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acyually, no

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 4:55 PM

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well try 5.6 then

solemn rivet Jul 30, 2018, 4:56 PM

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📎 unknown.png

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 4:56 PM

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yeah just continue then

solemn rivet Jul 30, 2018, 4:57 PM

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oh shi

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hadn't even noticed the toolbar option for HKEdit

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happygrub

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 4:58 PM

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oops I forgot to show the window for state and events n such

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well let me finish up fixing actionreader then I'll put that back in

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also since hit detection is going to be pretty much impossible for the arrows, I'll just make it to where you hover over the event name to highlight the arrow

solemn rivet Jul 30, 2018, 5:02 PM

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wtf ok

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why is Gruz an inventory icon

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 5:03 PM

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why not?

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AA, change KDTBOT to KDTGOD

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 5:07 PM

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Rip, failed to read past end of strem

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 5:07 PM

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hey nes can you post that zip again

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I got unity installed

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yes I am a 90 year old man who can't use a computer

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 5:07 PM

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I'm on a phone, try searching from:nes#3391 has:file

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 5:07 PM

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still have a hard time getting to and past 500

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aaaAAA

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 5:08 PM

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thanks im a dungo

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forgot about has:file

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 5:09 PM

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also how do I do the Pufferfish?!

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copper nacelle Jul 30, 2018, 5:11 PM

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pogo on him

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 5:12 PM

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uh I see the hkedit thing but idk how to open it

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like what do I open for the open scene thing

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 5:12 PM

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📎 unknown.png

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 5:12 PM

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levelxx?

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 5:12 PM

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Yes

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Look at the title of the dialog

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"open level file"

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 5:13 PM

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argumentoutofrangeexception opening a random level from my game files

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 5:13 PM

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You did it wrong then

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What's the st

solemn rivet Jul 30, 2018, 5:13 PM

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only some levels can be opened from my experience

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1 and 6 so far

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 5:13 PM

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Most I open work fine

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Just don't open boss scripts

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Gradow which scene was in your screenshot?

solemn rivet Jul 30, 2018, 5:14 PM

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trying to open most scenes

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dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 5:14 PM

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Yeah that's going to happen

solemn rivet Jul 30, 2018, 5:14 PM

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that was level1

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 5:15 PM

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I could probably just ignore scenery if it doesn't exist

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You guys have the scene list right

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 5:15 PM

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same argumentoutofrangeexception for level6

solemn rivet Jul 30, 2018, 5:15 PM

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uhhh

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 5:15 PM

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Try 9+

solemn rivet Jul 30, 2018, 5:15 PM

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if you mean not the level list in hollow_knight_Data, then no

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 5:16 PM

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0-8 are bad

solemn rivet Jul 30, 2018, 5:16 PM

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I can open 1 and 6

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 5:16 PM

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nine same issue idk

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 5:16 PM

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📎 scenes.txt

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 5:16 PM

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📎 unknown.png

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 5:16 PM

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weird

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📎 unknown.png

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works fine for me ™

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 5:16 PM

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📎 unknown.png

solemn rivet Jul 30, 2018, 5:17 PM

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which one is that

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 5:17 PM

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what are you trying to do?

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 5:17 PM

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level9

solemn rivet Jul 30, 2018, 5:17 PM

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oops forgot to close level1 first

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brb

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 5:17 PM

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that exception was from level9

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 5:18 PM

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weird

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well from what I can tell, it's loading a dependency index that doesn't exist

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but that shouldn't happen

solemn rivet Jul 30, 2018, 5:18 PM

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neinneinnein

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dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 5:18 PM

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is it linux at it again

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 5:18 PM

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should I try on 2018.2?

solemn rivet Jul 30, 2018, 5:18 PM

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oh yeah

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AA is linux

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 5:18 PM

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linux has no 5.6.4

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so I'm on 5.6.3

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 5:19 PM

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what are you on

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shouldn't matter

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that's weird though

steep sail Jul 30, 2018, 5:19 PM

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Unity version matters

what are you on
shouldn't matter
````nes - 30-07-2018 20:19 | #modding`

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 5:19 PM

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gradow which scene has the inventory in it

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but it doesn't nice try tho

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.net version didn't change, and it's totally separate from the editor

steep sail Jul 30, 2018, 5:19 PM

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Cause there are problems

solemn rivet Jul 30, 2018, 5:19 PM

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level1

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 5:20 PM

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aa do fsms work

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 5:20 PM

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uh

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idk

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I don't use json fsm dumper

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 5:20 PM

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who says you need fsm dumper

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 5:20 PM

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what format do the fsms need to be in

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 5:20 PM

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bro just open the level file

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solemn rivet Jul 30, 2018, 5:20 PM

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here be level6

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dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 5:20 PM

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yeah pretty much

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 5:21 PM

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no they don't work because ur a dungo and used the wrong path slashes

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 5:21 PM

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still trying to figure out why they are all stacked at 0,0

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i use path.combine bro

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 5:21 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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bro

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use '/' not '\'

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 5:21 PM

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probably from the original api then

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I don't write anything with \\

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(had to use 3 \s to write that)

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 5:21 PM

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huh

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 5:22 PM

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oh right

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this version is ancient cuz its the unity branch

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and its using the wrong assetsmanager

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change line 36 from \\ to /

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 5:23 PM

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copper nacelle Jul 30, 2018, 5:23 PM

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maggot

solemn rivet Jul 30, 2018, 5:23 PM

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boi

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compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 5:23 PM

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yeah found it

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 5:23 PM

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https://github.com/nesrak1/UnityTreeView/blob/master/UnityTreeView/UnityTreeView/AssetsManager.h#L46

GitHub

nesrak1/UnityTreeView

UnityTreeView - Reading the structure of .assets files in Unity games.

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c++ windows

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 5:24 PM

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🤔

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that if will never not be false apparently

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 5:25 PM

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i dunno I just wrote this

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it's so you can recursively load dependencies of dependencies without interception

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 5:25 PM

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ok

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cool

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 5:26 PM

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what were NKG's stages?

solemn rivet Jul 30, 2018, 5:26 PM

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get the file nes sent

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it has all scenes

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 5:26 PM

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firstordefault doesn't return null on no match?

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what does your green squiggly say

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 5:27 PM

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mine is just

            Dependency? matchingDep = dependencies.Where(d => d.name == name).FirstOrDefault();
            if (matchingDep != null)

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line 230 of AssetManagerHKE

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 5:27 PM

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yeah that's weird, you sure you're looking at the right file

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yeah

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I didn't change anything, or did I

solemn rivet Jul 30, 2018, 5:27 PM

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   [391] "Assets/Scenes/Grimm/Grimm_Main_Tent.unity"
   [392] "Assets/Scenes/Grimm/Grimm_Main_Tent_boss.unity"
   [393] "Assets/Scenes/Grimm/Grimm_Nightmare.unity"```papers

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 5:27 PM

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uh idk I just opened the sln in that zip

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 5:28 PM

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weird, but it shouldn't matter

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wait you did open the second one and not the first zip right

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 5:28 PM

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it's called HKEdit2.zip

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wait

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hold on

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yeah

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HKEdit2.zip

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is like that

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 5:29 PM

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let me diff then

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u sure

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📎 unknown.png

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from hkedit2

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 5:30 PM

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Yeah, Gradow?

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 5:31 PM

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can you resend the zip pls

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 5:31 PM

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I meant NGG's

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 5:31 PM

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uh

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 5:31 PM

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he had 4 phaes

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 5:31 PM

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ngg has 4 phases

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 5:31 PM

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the first one

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then a slower one where he deals 4 dmaage

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 5:31 PM

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📎 HKEdit2.zip

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 5:31 PM

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then something

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and then 2 Grimss

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 5:31 PM

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the first three he gets faster and on the 3rd one the spikes also do 4 dmg

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 5:32 PM

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lol im dumb

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it's a different section cuz I copy pasted it earlier

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230 and 143 are the sections

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 5:32 PM

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yeah

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 5:33 PM

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but in your screenshot the firstordefault was green, what does it say

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im in vs not rs rn

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and firstordefault returns default(type?)

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so may be your squiggles that are wrong

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 5:35 PM

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📎 unknown.png

copper nacelle Jul 30, 2018, 5:36 PM

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don't need the where

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just put the lambda in first or default

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 5:36 PM

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yeah I see

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but for the yellow underline I think it may actually be confused about ?'s function

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 5:37 PM

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let me check

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the yellow underline below it is because matchingDep != null will always be true

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 5:38 PM

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I know, but that makes no sense

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 5:39 PM

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it means that dependencies.Where(d => d.name == name).FirstOrDefault() always returns a non-null value

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 5:39 PM

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but it won't always

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I know what it means

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but that's not true

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if name is not in any of the dependencies, it will return default(Dependency?) which is null

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because Dependency is a nullable type, it can be null

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 5:41 PM

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https://www.jetbrains.com/help/rider/ConditionIsAlwaysTrueOrFalse.html

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The only problem with this inspection is that sometimes it's not obvious how JetBrains Rider has come to this conclusion. Because of this, users may be unwilling to accept the JetBrains Rider’s suggestion to replace an expression with explicit true or false, or to remove a redundant check in an if statement. Below are some StackOverflow questions that illustrate this problem:

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 5:43 PM

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hm firstordefault returns regular dependency

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thats why

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 5:43 PM

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well it does say OrDefault

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 5:43 PM

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but default should be default of Dependency? not dependency

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 5:43 PM

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huh

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 5:43 PM

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easy fix it to make dependency class

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 5:43 PM

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idk

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 5:44 PM

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not sure why it was struct in the first place

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is struct better than class in some way in c++

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also on level1 I got no end of stream exception

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very strange that you guys are getting this

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📎 HKEdit3.zip

copper nacelle Jul 30, 2018, 5:46 PM

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@flat forum the only thing is that grimm's tent shows up

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 5:46 PM

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?

copper nacelle Jul 30, 2018, 5:46 PM

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which you can just set false after my code

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 5:47 PM

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when? where? what

copper nacelle Jul 30, 2018, 5:47 PM

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hhhhhh

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compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 5:48 PM

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struct is for classes without functions. It's mostly just a relic from c

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so uh

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 5:48 PM

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I know, but I dunno how it's better than class

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Memory maybe?

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 5:48 PM

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probably, I wouldn't do an array of classes

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but I'd do an array of stucts

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where does it get the path 'hollow_knight_Data\globalgamemanager.assets' from?

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and where can I change that to a normal slash

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 5:49 PM

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From a dependency probably

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 5:49 PM

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ech guess it's time to get out dnspy

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 5:50 PM

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wat

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remember our boi path

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compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 5:50 PM

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nah I changed that part

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that's not the problem

dark wigeon Jul 30, 2018, 5:50 PM

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then I couldn't tell you

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o wait lol

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📎 unknown.png

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tbh I put this together really fast when it was 12am

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159 and 240 need to be fixed too

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 5:51 PM

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I was more concerned about other stuff

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like the defeated and killed things

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I'll check it out again in a bit

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once I finally get to phase 2 tho

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How do I not suck at NGG

cunning lagoon Jul 30, 2018, 6:02 PM

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^

copper nacelle Jul 30, 2018, 6:02 PM

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git gud

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or be kdt

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 6:02 PM

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DLK no

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give the others a chance

cunning lagoon Jul 30, 2018, 6:03 PM

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lol im getting my ass kicked

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 6:03 PM

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I got rid of all the wrong paths in your code nes but it still breaks at the same point

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so it is in fact in a dep as you claimed

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but I need to some time use dnspy to figure out where

copper nacelle Jul 30, 2018, 6:03 PM

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give 107 save thank

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 6:04 PM

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no

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 6:04 PM

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📎 user1bak.dat

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 6:07 PM

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Ok, enough for today

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hey, DLK, what's your top score on NGG?

cunning lagoon Jul 30, 2018, 6:07 PM

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1040

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 6:08 PM

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has it been posted?

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also, I'm worse than that, what are you complaining about

copper nacelle Jul 30, 2018, 6:08 PM

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if that's higher than mine i will jump off a bridge

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 6:08 PM

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can't even get to phase 2

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56, yours was 1042

copper nacelle Jul 30, 2018, 6:08 PM

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all remains good in the world

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cunning lagoon Jul 30, 2018, 6:09 PM

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im not gonna post anything until i get a score im happy with

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 6:09 PM

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meh if it beats my score post it

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 6:09 PM

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if it's above 400 post it

copper nacelle Jul 30, 2018, 6:09 PM

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400 isn't hard tho

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 6:09 PM

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AA, you should try NGG again

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when does it get hard then?

copper nacelle Jul 30, 2018, 6:10 PM

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700 imo

leaden hedge Jul 30, 2018, 6:10 PM

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2400

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 6:10 PM

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600

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KDT NO

copper nacelle Jul 30, 2018, 6:10 PM

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kdt is kdt

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 6:10 PM

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KDT STOP BEING A GOD

copper nacelle Jul 30, 2018, 6:10 PM

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this is inevitable

steep sail Jul 30, 2018, 6:10 PM

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When modders are best memers)

copper nacelle Jul 30, 2018, 6:10 PM

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you ever go to fight ngg

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and then remember you've forgotten to turn on ngg

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 6:11 PM

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this title only goes to 56

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56 only best memer

steep sail Jul 30, 2018, 6:11 PM

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Come on! I still have to beat simple NKG!

copper nacelle Jul 30, 2018, 6:11 PM

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wtf

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 6:11 PM

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wtf

leaden hedge Jul 30, 2018, 6:11 PM

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nkg normal isn't hard

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 6:11 PM

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KDT shut

copper nacelle Jul 30, 2018, 6:11 PM

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nkg normal is a joke

leaden hedge Jul 30, 2018, 6:11 PM

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even with darkmod its not that hard intenseface

steep sail Jul 30, 2018, 6:12 PM

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Of course, if you have beaten it 50 times

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 6:12 PM

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A friend of mine beat normal NKG in 2 days, buts struggled with Failed Champ and Traitor Lord for a week

copper nacelle Jul 30, 2018, 6:12 PM

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even if you suck

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just put on

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shape of unn, quick focus, deep focus

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you can no longer die

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ever

steep sail Jul 30, 2018, 6:12 PM

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But I`ve taken a long rest from HK - and forget everything

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 6:12 PM

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then, come back August 23

copper nacelle Jul 30, 2018, 6:12 PM

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literally heal 6 hp in the stagger

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 6:12 PM

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nkg normal is being reworked

copper nacelle Jul 30, 2018, 6:12 PM

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2 hp under the bats

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4 hp during pillars

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you can't die

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 6:12 PM

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you're still gonna be unkillable if you're good

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but it will be much harder

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so it will actually be fun

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 6:13 PM

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was NKG nerfed for Lifeblood?

copper nacelle Jul 30, 2018, 6:13 PM

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yes

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-100 hp

steep sail Jul 30, 2018, 6:13 PM

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"Now I'm waking up - I'll forget everything..." (c) Micolash, Host of Nightmare

compact sedge Jul 30, 2018, 6:13 PM

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-100 hp and takes damage in balloon from spells

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 6:13 PM

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use ' instead of `

copper nacelle Jul 30, 2018, 6:13 PM

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and you can hurt him during the balloon with spells

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 6:13 PM

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AA, make my score 860 pls

copper nacelle Jul 30, 2018, 6:13 PM

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you do need gchild tho

steep sail Jul 30, 2018, 6:13 PM

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Don't dumb

use `'` instead of `
````PapingFolders - 30-07-2018 21:13 | #modding`

flat forum Jul 30, 2018, 6:14 PM

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wait

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you're in the same time zone?

copper nacelle Jul 30, 2018, 6:14 PM

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why does reduce lag not exist in ngg

#

ree

steep sail Jul 30, 2018, 6:14 PM

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ree

copper nacelle Jul 30, 2018, 6:14 PM

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my fps is <100

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this is agony

steep sail Jul 30, 2018, 6:14 PM

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My comp is shit

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And it's lagging in several moments on NKG

leaden hedge Jul 30, 2018, 6:15 PM

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thats part of the experience

cunning lagoon Jul 30, 2018, 6:15 PM

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56 did you download the updated one

copper nacelle Jul 30, 2018, 6:15 PM

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i get 70fps

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yes

cunning lagoon Jul 30, 2018, 6:15 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯