#archived-modding-development | Hollow Knight | Page 142

copper nacelle Jul 18, 2018, 4:05 PM

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ty

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would you patch them like that too? (set_x and get_x)

bronze temple Jul 18, 2018, 4:06 PM

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yes, but you can also patch it like a normal property

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the quirk with properties is that the orig_ gets prepended before the name of the method

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you _could _ use something like this though:

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        [MonoModRemove] // And pray that it doesn't delete the orig_ methods.
        public extern bool orig_x { get; set; }
        public bool x {
            [MonoModOriginalName("get_orig_x")] get;
            [MonoModOriginalName("set_orig_x")] set;
        }

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@copper nacelle

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The MonoModRemove is required to get rid of the wrapping property definition

copper nacelle Jul 18, 2018, 4:11 PM

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would doing

[MonoModReplace]
public bool get_x();
[MonoModReplace]
public void set_x(bool y);

be better or worse

bronze temple Jul 18, 2018, 4:11 PM

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which might cause issues with reflection later on

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MonoModReplace gets rid of the orig_ methods entirely

copper nacelle Jul 18, 2018, 4:11 PM

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o

flat forum Jul 18, 2018, 4:19 PM

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Hey

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My friend got the Universal API and the Gradow & Niko + KDT HPBars

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But the HP bars don't appear

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So, probably there's either a problem with the mod itself, as I remember it not working and before

young walrus Jul 18, 2018, 4:21 PM

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modcommon

flat forum Jul 18, 2018, 4:21 PM

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Did it require Modcommon?

young walrus Jul 18, 2018, 4:21 PM

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yes

flat forum Jul 18, 2018, 4:21 PM

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Ok

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I forgoy

copper nacelle Jul 18, 2018, 4:23 PM

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forgoy

lyric wedge Jul 18, 2018, 4:24 PM

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forgoy

leaden hedge Jul 18, 2018, 4:44 PM

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forgay

compact sedge Jul 18, 2018, 4:45 PM

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four goy

flat steppe Jul 18, 2018, 6:27 PM

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Four gay

fair rampart Jul 18, 2018, 7:22 PM

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YO I STILL NEED TO GET THE LIGHT BRINGER MOD OFF caps

high quarry Jul 18, 2018, 7:36 PM

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Hi guys where can i download a mod for the latest version.

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sorry should have asked in the "modding-help"

tranquil glen Jul 18, 2018, 7:39 PM

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{
     orig(self);
     foreach (FsmState state in self.states)
     {
          foreach (FsmStateAction action in state.actions)
          {
                if (action is SetPlayerDataBool setBool && setBool.boolName == "crossroadsInfected")
                {
                      Log(self.FsmName + " " + self.gameObject.name + " " + GameManager.instance.GetSceneNameString());
                }
          }
     }
}```

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sean where do i put this zote

copper nacelle Jul 18, 2018, 7:46 PM

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Initialize of a mod

tranquil glen Jul 18, 2018, 7:47 PM

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wait do i have to like directly add that to the assemblycsharp.dll

copper nacelle Jul 18, 2018, 7:58 PM

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playmaker

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I think

leaden hedge Jul 18, 2018, 8:15 PM

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its in a mod

compact sedge Jul 18, 2018, 8:21 PM

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Hey 753, would you agree that all of 56's mods are better than yours?

buoyant obsidian Jul 18, 2018, 8:22 PM

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only Lightbringer

compact sedge Jul 18, 2018, 8:23 PM

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yeah Lightbringer's my favorite 56 mod

copper nacelle Jul 18, 2018, 8:25 PM

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re

compact sedge Jul 18, 2018, 8:26 PM

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btw if not it's ok but I'd still like ur help figuring out why soul tyrant's shit resets.

copper nacelle Jul 18, 2018, 8:27 PM

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yeah sure

tranquil glen Jul 18, 2018, 8:30 PM

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how do i open a dll file zote

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I have dnspy installed i think

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is that something i need

copper nacelle Jul 18, 2018, 8:32 PM

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yes

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open dnspy

tranquil glen Jul 18, 2018, 8:33 PM

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wait do i open the sln with visual studio?

copper nacelle Jul 18, 2018, 8:33 PM

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what

tranquil glen Jul 18, 2018, 8:33 PM

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man

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idk

copper nacelle Jul 18, 2018, 8:33 PM

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you can either do that using like a modding api

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but that doesn't exist on your patch

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so you can just add it to the method

tranquil glen Jul 18, 2018, 8:34 PM

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56 i have no idea how to do anything

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i hope you understand that

copper nacelle Jul 18, 2018, 8:34 PM

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yes

tranquil glen Jul 18, 2018, 8:34 PM

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how do i open dnspy there's no exe

copper nacelle Jul 18, 2018, 8:34 PM

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ok so

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you downloaded the repo

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and not actual dnspy

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download it from here https://github.com/0xd4d/dnSpy/releases

GitHub

0xd4d/dnSpy

dnSpy - .NET debugger and assembly editor

compact sedge Jul 18, 2018, 8:35 PM

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btw it's a zip bomb so make a folder for it before you extract the zip

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or it will dump its files all over your downloads folder

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wait no zip bombs a different thing

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I'm thinking of tar bomb but for zip files

copper nacelle Jul 18, 2018, 8:36 PM

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zip bombs extract until you run out of space

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this isn't that

tranquil glen Jul 18, 2018, 8:36 PM

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I understand what you meant

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hey this one has an exe

copper nacelle Jul 18, 2018, 8:37 PM

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yea

compact sedge Jul 18, 2018, 8:37 PM

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yeah that's why I said zip bombs are a different hting

tranquil glen Jul 18, 2018, 9:05 PM

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and i'm putting it in playmaker?

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and i'm putting it in playmaker?

rain cedar Jul 18, 2018, 9:18 PM

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You need to run it in a mod with a reference to modcommon

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Or just mod PlayMaker directly if that's what you're into

tranquil glen Jul 18, 2018, 9:29 PM

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well i don't have a mod to use it in

leaden hedge Jul 18, 2018, 9:32 PM

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zip bombs don't work

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it was to do with anti-viruses being well coded

compact sedge Jul 18, 2018, 9:32 PM

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no I meant tar bombs but with a zip file instead of a tar file

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also most likely with zip bombs it's probably just 7zip or whatever crashes

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from running out of ram

leaden hedge Jul 18, 2018, 9:34 PM

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well a zip bomb is just a zip file, then x of those in a zip

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then x of those in a zip

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then x of those in a zip

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for a bunch of times

compact sedge Jul 18, 2018, 9:34 PM

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yeah

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but a tar bomb is just when people are dungos when they make their tar files

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and they don't tar a subfolder they just tar a bunch of files

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so they dump all over wherever you're extracting it

leaden hedge Jul 18, 2018, 9:34 PM

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but 7z and rar have protection against that and pretty much always have

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it was only antiviruses that crashed pcs

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because 420iq good code

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gotta check every file in this zip, including zips inside it

compact sedge Jul 18, 2018, 9:35 PM

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also fun fact, tar and zip and all extractions stuff can let you extract files above the level they are at

leaden hedge Jul 18, 2018, 9:35 PM

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for virus

compact sedge Jul 18, 2018, 9:35 PM

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by using dots

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so

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if you extract a tar in ~/Downloads and it has a ../meme.txt meme.txt will appear in ~

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unless the extraction tool you use explicitly breaks specs

leaden hedge Jul 18, 2018, 9:36 PM

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how do you put something above it

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inside of it 🤔

compact sedge Jul 18, 2018, 9:36 PM

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because .. says go one level up

leaden hedge Jul 18, 2018, 9:36 PM

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I know what .. means

compact sedge Jul 18, 2018, 9:36 PM

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and that's what zipslip is, it's a bunch of meme idiot non-security researchers finding something that's intentionally in the spec and claming it's a security problem

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like ofc it's a security problem, go take this up with ISO and not a bunch of random library makers

copper nacelle Jul 18, 2018, 9:37 PM

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make all your programs zips that extract directly to /usr/bin

leaden hedge Jul 18, 2018, 9:37 PM

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it doesn't even seem like a security problem it seems like a format problem

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like how is that even defined behaviour

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tar/zips are supposed to just be compressed folders

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but if you explore it like with 7z

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how do you find .. that just sends you out of the zip

compact sedge Jul 18, 2018, 9:38 PM

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tar and zip being able to extract on the same level is ok behavior imo because it lets you bootstrap stuff, but letting them extract one level up was bad design

rain cedar Jul 18, 2018, 9:38 PM

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@tranquil glen

📎 PlayMaker_-_Copy.dll

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This will probably work idk

📎 unknown.png

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Also I think this is the first time I've seen foreach get compiled to a regular for instead of enumerator stuff

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I guess because they're arrays

compact sedge Jul 18, 2018, 11:22 PM

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ok whose bad idea was it to make a couple of lost kin's waits random. Intentionally trying to ruin people's muscle memory

rain cedar Jul 18, 2018, 11:25 PM

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If it's between attacks that's fine

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Should never have random windup on an attack though

copper nacelle Jul 18, 2018, 11:26 PM

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yeah it's on Idle

tranquil glen Jul 18, 2018, 11:45 PM

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do i have to go to lost kin for this to work or just run the game?

rain cedar Jul 18, 2018, 11:46 PM

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Go to wings

tranquil glen Jul 18, 2018, 11:46 PM

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ok

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is this like outputting to a modlog or something?

rain cedar Jul 18, 2018, 11:46 PM

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No just a file in your game folder

copper nacelle Jul 18, 2018, 11:46 PM

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fsm.json

tranquil glen Jul 18, 2018, 11:47 PM

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do i need to make that like i made the save fsm folder for the fsm mod?

compact sedge Jul 18, 2018, 11:48 PM

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is it ok to add ModHooks.Instance hooks to random gameobjects?

rain cedar Jul 18, 2018, 11:53 PM

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Probably fine

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Unhook it in OnDestroy

compact sedge Jul 18, 2018, 11:54 PM

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ok

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it feels wrong but I'll do it

tranquil glen Jul 18, 2018, 11:54 PM

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📎 hollow_knight_Datafsm.json

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here it is

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i think

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there's too many stuff in there for me to make sense of it

rain cedar Jul 19, 2018, 12:14 AM

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Put it in the fsm viewer

tranquil glen Jul 19, 2018, 12:22 AM

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I just get a blank screen

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 12:29 AM

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did you add var fsm =

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and stuff

tranquil glen Jul 19, 2018, 12:30 AM

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yeah renamed it data.json

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and put var fsm =

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 12:31 AM

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wow nice

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it crashed my fsm viewer

rain cedar Jul 19, 2018, 12:32 AM

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I think the other fsm outputter logs the inner json

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 12:32 AM

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second i clicked on it

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o

rain cedar Jul 19, 2018, 12:32 AM

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You gotta remove the outer stuff { "fsm" : {REAL SHIT} }

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 12:35 AM

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nice

📎 unknown.png

rain cedar Jul 19, 2018, 12:36 AM

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Lol

tranquil glen Jul 19, 2018, 12:38 AM

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haha yeah

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funny

tranquil glen Jul 19, 2018, 1:09 AM

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ok but i have no idea what i'm looking at, i see the bool i wanted

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is it activating after it finishes giving me the message for wings?

rain cedar Jul 19, 2018, 1:18 AM

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What's funny is there's nothing to look at

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What it looks like here is essentially:
if (!crossroadsInfected)
{
crossroadsInfected = true;
visitedCrossroads = true;
}
//Begin state Msg

compact sedge Jul 19, 2018, 1:20 AM

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glad they set visitedCrossroads = true

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just in case

tranquil glen Jul 19, 2018, 1:20 AM

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nice

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ok but does it not say what starts that?

rain cedar Jul 19, 2018, 1:23 AM

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Idk 56 didn't send a full screenshot

tranquil glen Jul 19, 2018, 1:23 AM

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cause it makes sense that it would check if crossroads was already infected from a dreamer or something

dense vault Jul 19, 2018, 2:04 AM

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Hmm

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someone wanna point me in the right direction in where i can grab some information for learning how to mod?

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looking at this drive folder with boss rush in it

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ah, this mod manager is very helpful, that seems easy enough

compact sedge Jul 19, 2018, 2:06 AM

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boss rush doesn't work on lifeblood

dense vault Jul 19, 2018, 2:06 AM

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FeelsBadMan

ornate rivet Jul 19, 2018, 2:23 AM

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Are KDT and Kein the same person?
both kdt and kein have names that start with k
both mod hk and other games
both made boss rush
both are mean
thinkgrub

compact sedge Jul 19, 2018, 2:24 AM

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It's a possibility

ornate rivet Jul 19, 2018, 2:24 AM

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also, that's something KDT would do

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meme us with alts like this

compact sedge Jul 19, 2018, 3:33 AM

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I made another alpha of my arcade mod. This time it also includes lost kin. He works best I can test but I'm not a good tester.

📎 dreams.dll

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(mostly for @copper nacelle tbh )

rain cedar Jul 19, 2018, 3:34 AM

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Why are there 3 of you now?

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At least you don't have the green color too

compact sedge Jul 19, 2018, 3:34 AM

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oh don't worry, I'm never getting the green color

rain cedar Jul 19, 2018, 3:34 AM

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Same

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Light blue forever boys

compact sedge Jul 19, 2018, 3:35 AM

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I'm stuck as a white person

rain cedar Jul 19, 2018, 3:35 AM

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But it's better to be a white person than any other ethnicity in most cases

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Don't complain about your privilege

compact sedge Jul 19, 2018, 3:36 AM

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Colored people have all the privilege on Discord servers.

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I have to sit in the back of the server.

rain cedar Jul 19, 2018, 3:37 AM

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Damn right, stay outta #462199380049395712

rain cedar Jul 19, 2018, 4:30 AM

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Is there a way to get the full line of references leading to a missing reference?

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I have a missing reference that makes no sense at all

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📎 unknown.png

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And I'm getting a missing reference System.IdentityModel for this

dreamy sleet Jul 19, 2018, 4:40 AM

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I have a quick question about down grading. I cannot get to the steam console its greyed out. Do you guys know what is wrong?

rain cedar Jul 19, 2018, 4:40 AM

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Restart steam

dreamy sleet Jul 19, 2018, 4:41 AM

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Still greyed out

rain cedar Jul 19, 2018, 4:42 AM

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Dunno then

dreamy sleet Jul 19, 2018, 4:42 AM

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😦

dreamy sleet Jul 19, 2018, 5:05 AM

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@rain cedar I am now getting ```] 1.2.2.1: download_depot 367520 367521 648876203478229944

command not found: 1.2.2.1:

rain cedar Jul 19, 2018, 5:05 AM

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1.2.2.1 isn't part of the command

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It's the patch

dreamy sleet Jul 19, 2018, 5:05 AM

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Thanks dad

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Got it

floral furnace Jul 19, 2018, 8:35 AM

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so uhh i have this

Image bar = CanvasUtil.CreateImagePanel(canvas, **Sprite object here** , new CanvasUtil.RectData(new Vector2(500, 50), new Vector2(-680, 810), new Vector2(0.5f, 0), new Vector2(0.5f, 0), new Vector2(0.5f, 0.5f)));

And i dont know what to put for that arguement, tho i did a few prodding by creating new sprites but it kept telling me that that it couldnt convert the object implicitly into a Unity.UI.Image

compact sedge Jul 19, 2018, 8:35 AM

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A sprite

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Sprite.Create

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and then create a sprite using a rectangle and a texture and a pivot

floral furnace Jul 19, 2018, 8:36 AM

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Oh i did some searching awhile ago and did try to use that

Texture2D texture = new Texture2D(100, 100);
texture.LoadImage(Resource.fg);
Sprite spriteBar = Sprite.Create(texture, new Rect(0, 0, 350, 288), new Vector2(0.5f,));

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and placed spriteBar in the args

compact sedge Jul 19, 2018, 8:37 AM

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the rect width and height and x and y represent the portion of the texture you wanna use

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so if you wanna use a small segment of the texture for the sprite

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which makes sense if you have a sprite sheet on one texture

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so different parts of the texture represent different frames of animation

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for me I just used the whole texture like so https://github.com/natis1/redwing/blob/master/redwing/redwing_game_objects.cs#L49

GitHub

natis1/redwing

redwing - A firey Hollow Knight mod/addon for Blackmoth

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and pivot should probably a 0.5f 0.5f vector2

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if you ever wanna rotate it

floral furnace Jul 19, 2018, 8:55 AM

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yeah tried some of those, CanvasUtil.CreateImagePanel is still asking for a UI.Sprite arguement

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i use Image object so i could use the FillMethod commands

rain cedar Jul 19, 2018, 8:56 AM

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Do what you did before with spriteBar

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Except I think you need to do texture.Apply() before making the Sprite

leaden hedge Jul 19, 2018, 8:59 AM

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you can just do CanvasUtil.createSprite(Resource.fg, 0, 0, width, height)

rain cedar Jul 19, 2018, 8:59 AM

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Lowercase function names nice

leaden hedge Jul 19, 2018, 9:00 AM

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dunno if its even lowercase in api

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wyza might have fixed it

flat forum Jul 19, 2018, 10:54 AM

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hey

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my friend pointed it out - in the HPBars mod (the one made from Gradow, KDT and Niko) the Boss Health (Big Red one) disappears if you hit spikes

tranquil glen Jul 19, 2018, 1:00 PM

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So do I understand this right, a 'while' loop continues going as long as the conditions set are true so if you just go 'while true' it'll go forever because true is true?

leaden hedge Jul 19, 2018, 1:00 PM

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yes

tranquil glen Jul 19, 2018, 1:00 PM

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What if you put 'while false' noot

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Would nothing happen or would something break

leaden hedge Jul 19, 2018, 1:00 PM

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nothing happens

tranquil glen Jul 19, 2018, 1:00 PM

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Ok

leaden hedge Jul 19, 2018, 1:01 PM

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if you did

do{

} while ( false )

it'd run once

tranquil glen Jul 19, 2018, 1:01 PM

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Huh

rain cedar Jul 19, 2018, 1:01 PM

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Those loops look like shit though

fair rampart Jul 19, 2018, 3:41 PM

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Hey, so we (me and a good friend of mine) have made a Hollow Knight Roulette Bot, it's currently Open-Beta and we're searching for some people who'd like to test it out, catch some bugs (if there are any), give some ideas and stuff.

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If you're interested I'd like you to DM me.

young walrus Jul 19, 2018, 3:42 PM

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more info plox. this tells me nothing

fair rampart Jul 19, 2018, 3:43 PM

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Sure, the Bot randomizes your charm set up, nail upgrades, spells that you can use, generally tries to find a way to play you've never done before.

young walrus Jul 19, 2018, 3:43 PM

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so.... it's randomizer

solemn rivet Jul 19, 2018, 3:43 PM

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^

young walrus Jul 19, 2018, 3:43 PM

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we have that tho

fair rampart Jul 19, 2018, 3:43 PM

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Do you?

solemn rivet Jul 19, 2018, 3:43 PM

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maybe it works differently

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does it randomize item pickups?

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or does it randomize what you have equipped?

fair rampart Jul 19, 2018, 3:44 PM

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At this point it has only what you have to have equipped.

young walrus Jul 19, 2018, 3:44 PM

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sounds like currently equipped stuffs

solemn rivet Jul 19, 2018, 3:44 PM

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so how does it work

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you equip say Nailmaster and it instead equips something else?

fair rampart Jul 19, 2018, 3:44 PM

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I mean, it's a Discord Bot that randomizes your run.

solemn rivet Jul 19, 2018, 3:44 PM

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oh

fair rampart Jul 19, 2018, 3:45 PM

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Charm equips, do you have to be overcharmed, what conditions must be met and stuff.

solemn rivet Jul 19, 2018, 3:45 PM

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OH

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got it

fair rampart Jul 19, 2018, 3:45 PM

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We're a bit out of ideas so we've decided to make an Open-Beta for people to see, say what they like, dislike, what to change, add and stuff.

solemn rivet Jul 19, 2018, 3:45 PM

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kinda like a restriction randomizer

young walrus Jul 19, 2018, 3:45 PM

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oh so it doesn't affect the game itself

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it just tells you what to do

solemn rivet Jul 19, 2018, 3:45 PM

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yeah

fair rampart Jul 19, 2018, 3:46 PM

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Yea, my coding skills aren't as high as my friend's, only he could do that.

solemn rivet Jul 19, 2018, 3:46 PM

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I've seen DS runs like that

fair rampart Jul 19, 2018, 3:46 PM

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Interested?

young walrus Jul 19, 2018, 3:46 PM

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nope

solemn rivet Jul 19, 2018, 3:47 PM

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hmm

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I mean, if I were a full-time HK streamer, sure

fair rampart Jul 19, 2018, 3:47 PM

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It's a fun purpose bot, to discover ways you've never played before.

solemn rivet Jul 19, 2018, 3:47 PM

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yeah, but that's kinda like a catch-all term, right?

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I mean, every mod does that to some instance

young walrus Jul 19, 2018, 3:48 PM

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does it tell you to play with a blindfold on?

solemn rivet Jul 19, 2018, 3:48 PM

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not trying to diminish what you've accomplished

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it really sounds nifty and fun

fair rampart Jul 19, 2018, 3:48 PM

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It doesn't, Mickely.

solemn rivet Jul 19, 2018, 3:48 PM

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what restrictions are there currently?

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if you add randomizer compatibility, I'm sold

fair rampart Jul 19, 2018, 3:49 PM

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Charms, charm notches (which are a pretty complicated thing right now), nail upgrades, spells (rolls whether can you use some or not).

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Not much have been added, really, that's why I'm asking here right now, we need some ideas and stuff.

solemn rivet Jul 19, 2018, 3:50 PM

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I still don't get how it would work... Say I roll a restriction that tells me that I need to be overcharmed

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but I've literally just started the game

fair rampart Jul 19, 2018, 3:50 PM

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We've obviously thought about this.

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It only rolls the charms you could've picked up in certain areas.

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Say: It cannot roll a Grimmchild on False Knight.

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Only the ones you could've picked up before fighting him.

young walrus Jul 19, 2018, 3:52 PM

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sounds like a "challenge run generator" for people who can't think of them on their own. I have no interest in this, personally.

solemn rivet Jul 19, 2018, 3:52 PM

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hence my suggestion for rando compatibility

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yeah, Mick, but for stream gimmicks, people seem to enjoy these

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I've seen people do like "every donation gets to add another restriction" or smth

fair rampart Jul 19, 2018, 3:53 PM

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Well, if you're interested I can invite you to a server and you can check it out yourself.

solemn rivet Jul 19, 2018, 3:53 PM

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sure

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because, as it is, seems like basically anyone in this channel could break the restrictions

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because it's very easy to sequence break HK

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even nmg

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even no glitches

fair rampart Jul 19, 2018, 3:54 PM

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I'll DM you.

solemn rivet Jul 19, 2018, 3:54 PM

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k

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that's why I personally love rando tbh, because it forces you to sequence break

young walrus Jul 19, 2018, 3:55 PM

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and you can't "cheat" out of it

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it physically forces you to play the game different

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vastly different

solemn rivet Jul 19, 2018, 3:55 PM

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yeah

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and I really like the bingo twist tbh

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rando+bingo = literally endless fun

young walrus Jul 19, 2018, 3:55 PM

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rando bingo is so fun

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even alone

solemn rivet Jul 19, 2018, 3:56 PM

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yeah

young walrus Jul 19, 2018, 3:56 PM

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way better than just rando. cuz once you get all win conditions, rando is pretty meh tbh

tranquil glen Jul 19, 2018, 4:32 PM

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Yeah

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I never feel the need to finish a random once I have everything

young walrus Jul 19, 2018, 4:32 PM

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the end of rando bingo feels way more definitive

solemn rivet Jul 19, 2018, 4:34 PM

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whenever I get claw I just reset the run

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because there's no point in playing anymore

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I really liked doing rando 107% tho

hazy sentinel Jul 19, 2018, 7:56 PM

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@compact sedge nice

📎 ok.png

hexed swan Jul 19, 2018, 7:57 PM

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milliS

hazy sentinel Jul 19, 2018, 7:59 PM

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fps dropped to like 70 average at the end

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usually nkg is 250-300

flat forum Jul 19, 2018, 7:59 PM

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. . .

tranquil glen Jul 19, 2018, 8:04 PM

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56 how'd you get the fsm thing to work?

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i removed {"fsm": from the start and a } from the end

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is that not what i needed to do?

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:08 PM

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you need to remove a bit more

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@tranquil glen

📎 Krythom.json

tranquil glen Jul 19, 2018, 8:11 PM

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ok thanks

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:13 PM

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if you still can't get it to work

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tranquil glen Jul 19, 2018, 8:13 PM

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no i got it

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so it happens when i hit the ground it looks like?

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:15 PM

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yeah

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right after you hit the ground

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i'd assume

tranquil glen Jul 19, 2018, 8:19 PM

#

would it be after i'm supposed to hit the ground rather than when i actually do?

#

like if i menu drop into it and hit the ground earlier would it still wait until i was supposed to have hit the ground

young walrus Jul 19, 2018, 8:22 PM

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well the game gets super confused cuz you're supposed to be in the air. so.... maybe?

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:22 PM

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no

#

it has 3 waits before that to transition states

#

does it play the anims after you hit the ground or no

young walrus Jul 19, 2018, 8:23 PM

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are you trying to get the crossroads infected?

tranquil glen Jul 19, 2018, 8:23 PM

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trying to avoid infection

flat forum Jul 19, 2018, 8:23 PM

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isn't there just a bool for that?

tranquil glen Jul 19, 2018, 8:23 PM

#

the animations continue and i'm invisible until they finish

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:23 PM

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yeah ok

#

while the anims are active crossroads is uninfected

#

once they finish and you're on the floor it'll set

tranquil glen Jul 19, 2018, 8:24 PM

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k thats what i thought

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sweet

#

totally avoidable then

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:24 PM

#

i'd still test it tho

tranquil glen Jul 19, 2018, 8:24 PM

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doing so now

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:24 PM

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nice

young walrus Jul 19, 2018, 8:26 PM

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were you waiting out the whole animation before?

tranquil glen Jul 19, 2018, 8:26 PM

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idk mick

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I haven't really done real runs

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one time it was infected one time it wasn't so i just wanted to look into exactly what caused it

young walrus Jul 19, 2018, 8:27 PM

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gotcha

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i suppose i never would have run into that cuz it's always infected by that time in all skills runs from killing a dreamer

tranquil glen Jul 19, 2018, 8:27 PM

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probably waited out animation the time it happened cause i wasn't really worried about speed

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:28 PM

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wtf

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tranquil glen Jul 19, 2018, 8:28 PM

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i don't see an issue

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:28 PM

#

i can't move either

tranquil glen Jul 19, 2018, 8:28 PM

#

looks normal

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on the other hand

#

wtf

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:29 PM

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leaving that room fixed the movement

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i didn't have the wall broken

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nvm

#

opening my inventory fucks it

tranquil glen Jul 19, 2018, 8:29 PM

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k but what the hell is that

#

what happened

exotic venture Jul 19, 2018, 8:29 PM

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ahh yes i had that issue too

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:29 PM

#

unused sprites

hollow pier Jul 19, 2018, 8:29 PM

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is that gng

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:29 PM

#

also what the fuck

#

my transitions are gone

#

it just

exotic venture Jul 19, 2018, 8:29 PM

#

but it would do that when you equip the charms

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:29 PM

#

changes scenes

#

no transition

#

no black screen

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just

#

bam

tranquil glen Jul 19, 2018, 8:30 PM

#

what caused this

leaden hedge Jul 19, 2018, 8:30 PM

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broke

exotic venture Jul 19, 2018, 8:30 PM

#

yep that sounds like the oddball i had

#

i have no clue what causes it

young walrus Jul 19, 2018, 8:30 PM

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great. now i want to do this on purpose

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:30 PM

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nice hp

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also essence

young walrus Jul 19, 2018, 8:31 PM

#

and 4 soul containers

exotic venture Jul 19, 2018, 8:31 PM

#

4 soul vessels Thonk

young walrus Jul 19, 2018, 8:31 PM

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wtf

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:31 PM

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what the fuck

#

nice

young walrus Jul 19, 2018, 8:31 PM

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is this a modded file?

#

wtf

leaden hedge Jul 19, 2018, 8:31 PM

#

hacks

exotic venture Jul 19, 2018, 8:31 PM

#

gods and glory 1 extra soul vessel confirmed

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:31 PM

#

i didn't give myself anything

young walrus Jul 19, 2018, 8:31 PM

#

what patch are you on

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:31 PM

#

just reinstalled the fsm dumper

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1.3.1.5

young walrus Jul 19, 2018, 8:31 PM

#

wtf

tranquil glen Jul 19, 2018, 8:31 PM

#

yeah crossroads very not infected

exotic venture Jul 19, 2018, 8:31 PM

#

how many masks do you have

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:32 PM

#

ok uninstalled all mods

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idk didn't count

exotic venture Jul 19, 2018, 8:32 PM

#

or did you have

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shame

flat forum Jul 19, 2018, 8:32 PM

#

what is that random 98?

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:32 PM

#

it's still happening

exotic venture Jul 19, 2018, 8:32 PM

#

essence

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:32 PM

#

uhh

exotic venture Jul 19, 2018, 8:32 PM

#

also it's inherent with the modding api

hazy sentinel Jul 19, 2018, 8:32 PM

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💯 👌

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:32 PM

#

11

exotic venture Jul 19, 2018, 8:32 PM

#

it really screws with things

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:32 PM

#

masks

exotic venture Jul 19, 2018, 8:32 PM

#

11 masks

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:32 PM

#

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exotic venture Jul 19, 2018, 8:32 PM

#

excuse me

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:32 PM

#

seems good

flat forum Jul 19, 2018, 8:32 PM

#

well

#

9 masks + Fragile Heart

#

?

exotic venture Jul 19, 2018, 8:33 PM

#

1 extra soul vessel, ok

#

fine

#

like, whatever

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:33 PM

#

i don't have fragile heart on

flat forum Jul 19, 2018, 8:33 PM

#

Uhhhh

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:33 PM

#

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flat forum Jul 19, 2018, 8:33 PM

#

o yeah

exotic venture Jul 19, 2018, 8:33 PM

#

but 2 extra masks for GnG

#

OMEGALUL you have the exact opposite what i had

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:33 PM

#

i don't think i'm using krythom's file

#

wtf

exotic venture Jul 19, 2018, 8:34 PM

#

i had all charms visible but they turned into debug charms when equipped

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:34 PM

#

i can't equip any

#

u dungo

#

can't do anything in the inventory screen

exotic venture Jul 19, 2018, 8:34 PM

#

you can't equip them what

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:34 PM

#

and after touching it can't move anymore

#

had to noclip

exotic venture Jul 19, 2018, 8:34 PM

#

that's even more odd

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:35 PM

#

my load screens are gone as well

exotic venture Jul 19, 2018, 8:35 PM

#

yeah i had that too

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:35 PM

#

this wall is unbroken

#

i'm in it

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also there's a really sick kingsmould thing

#

is that new

exotic venture Jul 19, 2018, 8:36 PM

#

Thonk

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:36 PM

#

or gng?

exotic venture Jul 19, 2018, 8:36 PM

#

the same bug happened with hornet's room

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:36 PM

#

it's like this magic circle

exotic venture Jul 19, 2018, 8:36 PM

#

so uhhhhhhh

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:36 PM

#

wait but is the kingsmould thing new

#

re

exotic venture Jul 19, 2018, 8:36 PM

#

kingsmould thing?

river eagle Jul 19, 2018, 8:36 PM

#

So it fucked with your save file?

hazy sentinel Jul 19, 2018, 8:36 PM

#

kingsmould shield shows up when you dreamnail it before awakening

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:36 PM

#

no clue

#

no

#

i'm not dnailing it

#

it's just

#

circley

exotic venture Jul 19, 2018, 8:36 PM

#

pic?

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:37 PM

#

one sec

#

i'm betting i fucked the playmaker dll

#

happened after i tried to reinstall the fsm dumper

#

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river eagle Jul 19, 2018, 8:37 PM

#

Interesting how the fourth soul vessel is actually aligned properly with the UI

exotic venture Jul 19, 2018, 8:37 PM

#

kingsmould is already fallen over too

river eagle Jul 19, 2018, 8:37 PM

#

Which means it was intentionally put there at some point

exotic venture Jul 19, 2018, 8:37 PM

#

nani the fuck

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:38 PM

#

but is the kingsmould thing just the shield

#

or something else

exotic venture Jul 19, 2018, 8:38 PM

#

something else

#

it appears when you try to dnail it without awakened dnail

#

like veru said

#

but yours is already slumped over sooooooooooooooo

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:38 PM

#

i can't hit enemies

exotic venture Jul 19, 2018, 8:38 PM

#

i have no clue.

river eagle Jul 19, 2018, 8:38 PM

#

Can the enemies hit you?

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:38 PM

#

yes

#

but they do no damage

hazy sentinel Jul 19, 2018, 8:39 PM

#

have u tried not being a hackerman

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:39 PM

#

i can give my playmaker dll if anyone wants to try it

#

wtf

#

belfly one shot me

#

i'm guessing the hp goes down but doesn't show

river eagle Jul 19, 2018, 8:40 PM

#

GWchadThinkeyes

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:40 PM

#

also the belfly doesn't trigger

#

unless i hit it

#

seems good

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river eagle Jul 19, 2018, 8:40 PM

#

So no matter how many times you hit enemies they don't die

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:40 PM

#

can't cdash or spell

#

no i can't hit them

#

at all

#

also the entrance to the abyss is just black

river eagle Jul 19, 2018, 8:41 PM

#

But still though that 4th soul vessel placement intrigues me

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:41 PM

#

can't hit levers either

river eagle Jul 19, 2018, 8:41 PM

#

Possibly there was supposed to be a 4th soul vessel at some point but it was cut from the game

#

Can you interact with anything like npc's

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:42 PM

#

yeah

#

i stagged here

#

ey

#

i've got a stuck nail art on me now

river eagle Jul 19, 2018, 8:42 PM

#

Have you tried spells yet

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:42 PM

#

spells don't work

#

just like cdash

#

probably cause they're both fsm

#

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river eagle Jul 19, 2018, 8:43 PM

#

And all charms are just broken

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:43 PM

#

ones i have equipped still work

river eagle Jul 19, 2018, 8:43 PM

#

Can you unequip them

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:43 PM

#

no

young walrus Jul 19, 2018, 8:43 PM

#

what'd you do leading up to this?

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:43 PM

#

updated fsm dumper

young walrus Jul 19, 2018, 8:43 PM

#

kk. so you just fucked all fsms probably. lol

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:43 PM

#

here's the file i guess

📎 PlayMaker.dll

#

yeah

young walrus Jul 19, 2018, 8:44 PM

#

that's pretty great

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:44 PM

#

gonna try wk

#

if they even activate

#

they're dead

river eagle Jul 19, 2018, 8:45 PM

#

They look dead before spawning

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:45 PM

#

really does me a big think

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river eagle Jul 19, 2018, 8:45 PM

#

I've seen this before

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:45 PM

#

it's like i have 0 nail damage

river eagle Jul 19, 2018, 8:46 PM

#

Someone got this as a bug some time ago

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:46 PM

#

i still get recoiled

#

and such

river eagle Jul 19, 2018, 8:46 PM

#

Can you corrupt the .dll even further

#

That'd be interesting

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:47 PM

#

ok

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hazy sentinel Jul 19, 2018, 8:47 PM

#

if anyone wants to meme https://www.reddit.com/r/HollowKnight/comments/909k6c/tas_potential/

r/HollowKnight - TAS potential?

1 vote and 0 comments so far on Reddit

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:47 PM

#

lemm dealing drugs

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river eagle Jul 19, 2018, 8:48 PM

#

Just get a nintendo switch emulator and play HK on it

#

Ez

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:48 PM

#

ok

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#

he's just walking into the entrance

#

lmao

#

a vengefly is just stuck mid air

#

won't move

#

even if i pogo it

#

gonna see what happens to the dnail room

#

ok

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flat forum Jul 19, 2018, 8:52 PM

#

56 what hast thou done?

#

what horrendous act hast thou committed, 56?

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:53 PM

#

really makes u think

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flat forum Jul 19, 2018, 8:54 PM

#

Quirrel dual Sword user

#

2 Quirrels during UumuU when?

#

Uumuu, but a thousand Quirrels

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:54 PM

#

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#

crossroads isn't infected

exotic venture Jul 19, 2018, 8:55 PM

#

oh look it's disappointment

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 8:56 PM

#

i wonder what salubra sells

young walrus Jul 19, 2018, 8:56 PM

#

dad?

hazy sentinel Jul 19, 2018, 8:56 PM

#

she sells seashells by the sea shore

exotic venture Jul 19, 2018, 8:56 PM

#

actually it's a lake

young walrus Jul 19, 2018, 8:56 PM

#

by the lake shore

#

don't feed the lakegulls tho

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 9:00 PM

#

i sure do love starting a new game

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exotic venture Jul 19, 2018, 9:00 PM

#

98

compact sedge Jul 19, 2018, 9:00 PM

#

seems legit

young walrus Jul 19, 2018, 9:00 PM

#

new windows version

#

98

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 9:00 PM

#

holy shit i found something i can break

#

the big door

compact sedge Jul 19, 2018, 9:00 PM

#

wow breaking stuff in HK

#

how dare you

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 9:00 PM

#

didn't even read the convo

#

wtf

#

ok

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river eagle Jul 19, 2018, 9:01 PM

#

corny

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 9:01 PM

#

📎 unknown.png

river eagle Jul 19, 2018, 9:01 PM

#

And this is a new save

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 9:01 PM

#

yes

river eagle Jul 19, 2018, 9:01 PM

#

Check the black egg

young walrus Jul 19, 2018, 9:01 PM

#

and you get an fsm

#

and you get an fsm

#

and YOU get an fsm

flat forum Jul 19, 2018, 9:02 PM

#

Is this New Game+ mod

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 9:02 PM

#

black egg is normal

flat forum Jul 19, 2018, 9:02 PM

#

How dare it

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 9:03 PM

#

really makes u think

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young walrus Jul 19, 2018, 9:03 PM

#

caught in the middle of making it

flat forum Jul 19, 2018, 9:03 PM

#

56 what dif u do

river eagle Jul 19, 2018, 9:03 PM

#

So it just loads everything at once thinkgrub

young walrus Jul 19, 2018, 9:03 PM

#

you know.... i always thought it was a tape

compact sedge Jul 19, 2018, 9:03 PM

#

this is the new shitmodst

#

right?

young walrus Jul 19, 2018, 9:03 PM

#

now i see it's a slip of paper with his glasses

exotic venture Jul 19, 2018, 9:04 PM

#

no this is quantum knight

#

everything is and isn't at the same time

young walrus Jul 19, 2018, 9:04 PM

#

📎 1f9.png

hazy sentinel Jul 19, 2018, 9:04 PM

#

that's not how this works

exotic venture Jul 19, 2018, 9:05 PM

#

this is #archived-modding-development

#

nothing works like it should

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 9:05 PM

#

is the grass supposed to be this color

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#

cause crossroads isn't infected

river eagle Jul 19, 2018, 9:06 PM

#

But now the question is, can it be corrupted even more hollowwow

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 9:06 PM

#

wtf

#

myla is uninfected

#

but walking up to her hurts me

tranquil glen Jul 19, 2018, 9:06 PM

#

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copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 9:07 PM

#

wtf

tranquil glen Jul 19, 2018, 9:07 PM

#

can rooms just be palette swapped like this

#

cause this is badass

compact sedge Jul 19, 2018, 9:07 PM

#

what'd you do

exotic venture Jul 19, 2018, 9:07 PM

#

that looks like the old version of fungal wastes!

tranquil glen Jul 19, 2018, 9:07 PM

#

good question

river eagle Jul 19, 2018, 9:07 PM

#

Could it be the shroom guy?

tranquil glen Jul 19, 2018, 9:07 PM

#

i think it just kept the color scheme of sewers

young walrus Jul 19, 2018, 9:08 PM

#

shrooms make everything look funny

#

trust me, i've had them

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 9:08 PM

#

nice mask shard circle

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exotic venture Jul 19, 2018, 9:08 PM

#

you collected it

#

but you didn't collect it

river eagle Jul 19, 2018, 9:08 PM

#

Also that shade

exotic venture Jul 19, 2018, 9:08 PM

#

just like how you are dead but aren't dead

young walrus Jul 19, 2018, 9:09 PM

#

zombie state

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 9:09 PM

#

soul totem stays active

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young walrus Jul 19, 2018, 9:09 PM

#

inb4 zombie hovers are a thing

exotic venture Jul 19, 2018, 9:09 PM

#

shrodinger's knight

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 9:09 PM

#

even though i can't hit it

river eagle Jul 19, 2018, 9:09 PM

#

Have you tried any boss fights?

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 9:09 PM

#

can't hit them

river eagle Jul 19, 2018, 9:09 PM

#

Do they even activate

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 9:09 PM

#

can't activate gruz cuz can't hit

#

haven't tried fk

#

wtf

#

can't even talk to salubra

#

she just laughs

young walrus Jul 19, 2018, 9:10 PM

#

lol

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 9:10 PM

#

on the other save she just said i bought everything

#

re

📎 unknown.png

#

enemies are kinda working

#

now

#

they weren't before

#

they target me

exotic venture Jul 19, 2018, 9:11 PM

#

can you use spells?

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 9:11 PM

#

no

#

can't use spells, superdash

#

dnail

#

spell control is fsm

#

so is superdash

#

i'd assume dnail too

exotic venture Jul 19, 2018, 9:12 PM

#

and you can't equip charms

#

heck

river eagle Jul 19, 2018, 9:12 PM

#

If you can't hit anything you're pretty much stuck in the crossroads though

exotic venture Jul 19, 2018, 9:12 PM

#

i wonder though

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 9:12 PM

#

noclip

#

false knight triggered

river eagle Jul 19, 2018, 9:12 PM

#

But that's cheaaatiiin

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 9:12 PM

#

help

#

my screen

exotic venture Jul 19, 2018, 9:12 PM

#

if you are in the spring, does the fourth soul vessel fill up?

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 9:12 PM

#

is stuck

#

shaking

#

even after i left the room

#

agony

#

hello

📎 unknown.png

#

levers work

solemn rivet Jul 19, 2018, 9:14 PM

#

try using debug to increase nail dmg

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 9:14 PM

#

nothing

#

still nail -2 effectively

#

even though it says i've got 17

solemn rivet Jul 19, 2018, 9:15 PM

#

weird

#

nail hits is not all fsm

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 9:15 PM

#

ok

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solemn rivet Jul 19, 2018, 9:15 PM

#

most of it is actually code

#

birdpals

young walrus Jul 19, 2018, 9:15 PM

#

new summon charm

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 9:15 PM

#

he's taking my seat

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solemn rivet Jul 19, 2018, 9:16 PM

#

kek

#

new knight

#

also

#

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copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 9:16 PM

#

elderbug

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solemn rivet Jul 19, 2018, 9:16 PM

#

reddit has no fucking clue m8

young walrus Jul 19, 2018, 9:16 PM

#

cohhFail

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 9:16 PM

#

rng doesn't exist

#

load times are all perfectly consistent

solemn rivet Jul 19, 2018, 9:16 PM

#

"no frame-perfect tricks"

#

that there is someone who's only ever watched a TAS like once

young walrus Jul 19, 2018, 9:17 PM

#

^

solemn rivet Jul 19, 2018, 9:17 PM

#

and has a very limited knowledge and experience with speedruns at all

young walrus Jul 19, 2018, 9:17 PM

#

well he's saying he doesn't know if this game has frame perfect tricks in it

#

which means he hasn't watched a run or knows anything about it

solemn rivet Jul 19, 2018, 9:17 PM

#

and implying that TASes exist for the sole purpose of making frame-perfect tricks consistent

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 9:18 PM

#

💢

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young walrus Jul 19, 2018, 9:18 PM

#

tru

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 9:19 PM

#

how do i beat hornet

#

with no charms

#

no spells

#

no nail hits

solemn rivet Jul 19, 2018, 9:19 PM

#

roar at her till she dies

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 9:19 PM

#

no cdash

solemn rivet Jul 19, 2018, 9:19 PM

#

like

#

literally scream

#

and stream, cause I wanna watch it

hazy sentinel Jul 19, 2018, 9:19 PM

#

storage the dialogue

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 9:19 PM

#

hornet machine broke

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hazy sentinel Jul 19, 2018, 9:19 PM

#

walk past her intenseface

solemn rivet Jul 19, 2018, 9:20 PM

#

FTL Hornet

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 9:20 PM

#

i wanted to see the dreamer cutscene tho

#

https://twitch.tv/5fiftysix6

#

nice geo

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young walrus Jul 19, 2018, 9:23 PM

#

ITS OVER 5000

copper nacelle Jul 19, 2018, 9:26 PM

#

quick cast doesn't work

#

but focus does

#

seems good

hollow pier Jul 19, 2018, 9:27 PM

#

is this shitmodst 2

river eagle Jul 19, 2018, 9:27 PM

#

literally yes

rain cedar Jul 20, 2018, 5:27 AM

#

Holy shit

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compact sedge Jul 20, 2018, 5:27 AM

#

that... was optimized by the compiler right

#

no way a human wrote that

#

right?

rain cedar Jul 20, 2018, 5:29 AM

#

I'm not convinced

compact sedge Jul 20, 2018, 5:30 AM

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seems like a nightmare to debug if it was human written

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like "whoops we accidentally added some parends so the logic was slightly wrong"

flat forum Jul 20, 2018, 5:33 AM

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what is that?

rain cedar Jul 20, 2018, 5:35 AM

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Bad

flat forum Jul 20, 2018, 5:36 AM

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Where did you find this?

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Even I, someone who doesn't understand code at all am terrified of something that looks like that

rain cedar Jul 20, 2018, 5:37 AM

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It's in Salt and Sanctuary

compact sedge Jul 20, 2018, 5:40 AM

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well given those devs possibly written by a human

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but I bet the original code had each condition on a separate line

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so it could be actually read

rain cedar Jul 20, 2018, 5:43 AM

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So much of the game just works through assumptions about other things

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Like if you try to add a class with full equips the game crashes

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Because it was just assumed that would never happen and you get an out of bounds exception when it tries to equip the starting consumables

ornate rivet Jul 20, 2018, 9:30 AM

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unzipping 500000 images

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computer: reeeeeeeeeeeeee

tranquil glen Jul 20, 2018, 10:42 AM

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Jus recode the game so that doesn't happen Sean noot

rain cedar Jul 20, 2018, 10:43 AM

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I realize you're joking but that's what I'm actually doing

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Using Mono.Cecil to patch functions at the IL level

wintry aurora Jul 20, 2018, 10:45 AM

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Tbh, i don't think i've sent more than probably 1 message here and it was probably a meme. So hi i guess.

rain cedar Jul 20, 2018, 10:51 AM

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1 message my ass

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But to be fair you're right about your messages being shitposts

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wintry aurora Jul 20, 2018, 10:56 AM

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Oh shit. Didn't remember that.

rain cedar Jul 20, 2018, 1:58 PM

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This is super niche but in case anyone else was wondering how the when keyword worked with fallthrough here you go

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copper nacelle Jul 20, 2018, 2:07 PM

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neat

tranquil glen Jul 20, 2018, 2:31 PM

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Man all day I was wondering about that

rain cedar Jul 20, 2018, 2:35 PM

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You really gonna come in here and talk shit?

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You don't even make mods

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I'll fuck you up

ornate rivet Jul 20, 2018, 2:36 PM

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hot

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hollowlenny

floral furnace Jul 20, 2018, 2:45 PM

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I love internet fist fights

tranquil glen Jul 20, 2018, 2:57 PM

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I came in here and asked questions until people did stuff for me, isn't that what modders do anyway? zote

rain cedar Jul 20, 2018, 2:57 PM

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cornywoke

copper nacelle Jul 20, 2018, 2:59 PM

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📎 467825020844900352.png

copper nacelle Jul 20, 2018, 4:23 PM

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📎 Screen_Shot_2018-07-20_at_12.24.40_PM.png

young gulch Jul 20, 2018, 6:13 PM

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how to hide and unhide the debug page while gaming

flat forum Jul 20, 2018, 6:13 PM

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F1?

steep sail Jul 20, 2018, 6:13 PM

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#archived-modding-help

young gulch Jul 20, 2018, 6:14 PM

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but my debug mod aint showing everything like the charms and other stuff

flat forum Jul 20, 2018, 6:14 PM

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?

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come to #archived-modding-help tho

copper nacelle Jul 20, 2018, 6:14 PM

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:begone:

flat forum Jul 20, 2018, 6:15 PM

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:thot:

finite herald Jul 20, 2018, 7:51 PM

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guys, it's been months since I stopped playing with mods. I'm wondering, what are new mods or is there any super recommended mod I should try?

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I've done everything in the game, multiple times, I used to play the boss rush mod long time ago

hollow pier Jul 20, 2018, 7:52 PM

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wait 33 days

compact sedge Jul 20, 2018, 7:52 PM

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boss rush was never updated for lifeblood :(

copper nacelle Jul 20, 2018, 7:52 PM

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just look at the mod installer

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and download everything you haven't seen

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easy

finite herald Jul 20, 2018, 7:52 PM

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mod installer? Imma check it out right now

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My nephew got a nintendo switch, and i gave him hollow knight, so I've been playing with him lately. This game is so amazing

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I can't wait for gods and glory

copper nacelle Jul 20, 2018, 7:55 PM

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gng never

finite herald Jul 20, 2018, 7:56 PM

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this probably has been asked multiple times, so I apologized. I installed the mantis god mod, so I have two questions. How do I know if it successfully installed?, and two, what mod should i get in order to teleport to the mantis lords and do the fight againt?

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again*

compact sedge Jul 20, 2018, 7:57 PM

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well if you used the installer it should appear in the top left

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when you launch the game

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that or any other mod

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and uh you can just refight the mantises by reentering the room even if you already did it on your save

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so probably debugmod to move around quicker

copper nacelle Jul 20, 2018, 7:58 PM

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dreamgate tm

finite herald Jul 20, 2018, 7:59 PM

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damn

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you guys made everything so simple and convenient for the mods lol

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amazing

compact sedge Jul 20, 2018, 7:59 PM

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mostly gradow

finite herald Jul 20, 2018, 7:59 PM

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props

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im getting dreamgatedata not found

copper nacelle Jul 20, 2018, 8:07 PM

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i meant like a normal dream gate

old idol Jul 20, 2018, 8:12 PM

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hello

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okl

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l

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ok

copper nacelle Jul 20, 2018, 9:35 PM

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real line of code

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            } while(r != 15 && r != 27 && r != 45 && r != 88 && r != 89 && r != 95 && r != 114 && r != 116 && r != 132 && r != 156 && r != 157 && r != 172 && r != 173 && r != 189 && r != 207 && r != 225 && r != 242 && r != 253 && r != 254 && r != 261 && r != 263 && r != 270 && r != 274 && r != 304 && r != 306 && r != 311 && r != 321 && r != 343 && r != 356 && r != 357 && r != 399 && r != 408 && r != 409 && r != 410 && r != 424 && r != 442 && r != 444 && r != 451 && r != 461 && r != 483 && r != 502 && r != 503 && r != 510 && r != 521 && r != 523 && r != 615 && r != 617 && r != 630 && r != 636 && r != 639 && r != 684 && r != 700 && r != 706 && !(r >= 76 && r <= 78) && !(r >= 119 && r <= 126) && !(r >= 278 && r <= 280) && !(r >= 282 && r <= 285) && !(r >= 294 && r <= 295) && !(r >= 335 && r <= 338) && !(r >= 477 && r <= 479) && !(r >= 495 && r <= 497) && !(r >= 659 && r <= 661) && !(r >= 710 && r <= 712));

compact sedge Jul 20, 2018, 9:37 PM

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delete this

copper nacelle Jul 20, 2018, 9:37 PM

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what do i do

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should i just put them all in a readonly array

compact sedge Jul 20, 2018, 9:38 PM

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don't write code that requries this

copper nacelle Jul 20, 2018, 9:38 PM

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not my code

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changing some stuff in someone else's

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compact sedge Jul 20, 2018, 9:39 PM

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that's a lot of changes

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esp for one commit

copper nacelle Jul 20, 2018, 9:40 PM

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unrelated rider auto formatting is great

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but this is horrible

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compact sedge Jul 20, 2018, 9:40 PM

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aaaaaaaaaa

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this is pain

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and the way I'd fix it is NOT generating random numbers that are bad numbers

copper nacelle Jul 20, 2018, 9:41 PM

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how tho

compact sedge Jul 20, 2018, 9:41 PM

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huh why do they need random numbers like htis

copper nacelle Jul 20, 2018, 9:41 PM

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random projectile spawn

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don't ask me what the nums mean

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cause idk either

compact sedge Jul 20, 2018, 9:42 PM

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I presume the projectile list is preset and they have no control over it?

copper nacelle Jul 20, 2018, 9:42 PM

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yeah

compact sedge Jul 20, 2018, 9:42 PM

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ok cuz if they did they could do a couple things like adding a var on the projectile itself they check against, or putting all the bad projectiles at the end

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or splitting the bad and good projectiles into different lists

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num149

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wttf

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why do you need 149 local variables

copper nacelle Jul 20, 2018, 9:43 PM

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tbh i hate this function as a whole

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compact sedge Jul 20, 2018, 9:43 PM

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for anything

copper nacelle Jul 20, 2018, 9:43 PM

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there aren't even 149

compact sedge Jul 20, 2018, 9:43 PM

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really clear what these local vars mean too

copper nacelle Jul 20, 2018, 9:43 PM

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just look at it

compact sedge Jul 20, 2018, 9:43 PM

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is this a gungeon mod?

copper nacelle Jul 20, 2018, 9:43 PM

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no it's a terraria mod

compact sedge Jul 20, 2018, 9:44 PM

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hmm

copper nacelle Jul 20, 2018, 9:44 PM

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oh wait

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i've got a great image

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/378298910487085059/469955745962524682/unknown.png

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in one of the files

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also public everything

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compact sedge Jul 20, 2018, 9:45 PM

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well they are static so them being public or private is just dev preference

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the problem comes from public non-static methods

copper nacelle Jul 20, 2018, 9:45 PM

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i've seen 0 private variables

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that i haven't added

compact sedge Jul 20, 2018, 9:46 PM

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that's also a problem

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or rather could be a problem

leaden hedge Jul 20, 2018, 9:46 PM

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tbh public / private doesn't really matter for personal projects

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only really matters when someone else is going to interface with your class and might set a var or run a method they shouldn't hollowface

compact sedge Jul 20, 2018, 9:47 PM

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only if you trust yourself

leaden hedge Jul 20, 2018, 9:47 PM

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i'd just use reflection to bypass my own private stuff

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so theres no reason to try and stop myself intenseface

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although you know what reflection has no solution for afaik

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private classes

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in lists

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and or dicts

compact sedge Jul 20, 2018, 9:49 PM

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for me it's this. I could use reflection to bypass my own shit, but me writing it as private is me telling future me not to do that

leaden hedge Jul 20, 2018, 9:49 PM

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past me doesn't know future mes problems

compact sedge Jul 20, 2018, 9:49 PM

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I don't like future me very much

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and future me hates current me

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so

leaden hedge Jul 20, 2018, 9:53 PM

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but for real celeste has this private class called TerrainType
I can instantiate the class
I can set its vars
I can pass it to functions
I can run its methods
I can create a dict of <char, TerrainType>
I can add stuff to the dict
try and overwrite another classes dict with mine can't cast 😠

copper nacelle Jul 21, 2018, 12:26 AM

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does anyone have an old version of dnspy

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or an older version than most recent at least

compact sedge Jul 21, 2018, 12:26 AM

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they have older releases on their github page no

copper nacelle Jul 21, 2018, 12:26 AM

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no

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they delete them all

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idk why

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it causes me agony

compact sedge Jul 21, 2018, 12:26 AM

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aaaa

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omg they delete their old tags too

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jerks

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so you don't even know when the last stable version was

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screw you 0x people

copper nacelle Jul 21, 2018, 12:27 AM

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wtf

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what did 0x0ade do to you

leaden hedge Jul 21, 2018, 12:27 AM

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what do you want

copper nacelle Jul 21, 2018, 12:27 AM

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old dnspy

leaden hedge Jul 21, 2018, 12:27 AM

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how old 🤔

copper nacelle Jul 21, 2018, 12:28 AM

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uhh

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.net 4.5 old

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2017 old

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i think

compact sedge Jul 21, 2018, 12:30 AM

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uh they were using 4.6 as long as they've been around

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try this commit @copper nacelle 276c1291a124fcd0bf94fb578da50a4e5ce8740b

copper nacelle Jul 21, 2018, 12:31 AM

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ok

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u ever agony

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compact sedge Jul 21, 2018, 12:43 AM

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nice hardcoded paths

copper nacelle Jul 21, 2018, 12:44 AM

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i redownloaded it and it still didn't work

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re

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oh wait

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submodules

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fuck

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didn't clone recursively

compact sedge Jul 21, 2018, 12:45 AM

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btw no idea how to get the submodules that are built for that specific commit

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or maybe nugit does it for you

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idk

copper nacelle Jul 21, 2018, 12:45 AM

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idk if git did it for me or what

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compact sedge Jul 21, 2018, 12:46 AM

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ok head is correct

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so

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or at least that's the commit id I suggested you try

copper nacelle Jul 21, 2018, 12:47 AM

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it still targets 4.7 meme

compact sedge Jul 21, 2018, 12:47 AM

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even though the commit right after it said it was the one that switched the target to 4.7

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wtf

copper nacelle Jul 21, 2018, 12:47 AM

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large meme

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i found the commit for 4.5 beta

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which wasn't 4.7

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i think

compact sedge Jul 21, 2018, 12:48 AM

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what about this

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dnspy terminal

copper nacelle Jul 21, 2018, 12:48 AM

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no

compact sedge Jul 21, 2018, 12:48 AM

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and open the project file it generates in rider

copper nacelle Jul 21, 2018, 12:48 AM

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:begone:

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doesn't show fsm actions

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and has worse search

compact sedge Jul 21, 2018, 12:49 AM

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ur wrong rider's search is great

copper nacelle Jul 21, 2018, 12:49 AM

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ur wrong dnspy's search is even better

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wow even better

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wait

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i think i have a dnspy from before 2018

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feelsbadman

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gonna dnspy dnspy

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truly woke

compact sedge Jul 21, 2018, 12:52 AM

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archive.org github.com?

copper nacelle Jul 21, 2018, 12:52 AM

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that might work

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but i have one

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from 11/27/17

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it was on my other drive

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zote

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[assembly: TargetFramework(".NETFramework,Version=v4.6.2", FrameworkDisplayName = ".NET Framework 4.6.2")]

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might work idk

compact sedge Jul 21, 2018, 12:53 AM

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for example archive.org says this is version 3.0.2: 6ed77d4

copper nacelle Jul 21, 2018, 12:53 AM

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yeah but downloads tm

compact sedge Jul 21, 2018, 12:55 AM

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https://github.com/0xd4d/dnSpy/issues/875

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no offense but fuck this guy

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someone posted a link to an old version, he edited that link out

copper nacelle Jul 21, 2018, 12:55 AM

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corny

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wtf

compact sedge Jul 21, 2018, 12:55 AM

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https://github.com/0xd4d/dnSpy/files/2168031/dnspy_3.0.2.zip

copper nacelle Jul 21, 2018, 12:56 AM

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yeah i got it

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nice

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ty

compact sedge Jul 21, 2018, 12:56 AM

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here's that link since github lets you view unedited comments

copper nacelle Jul 21, 2018, 12:56 AM

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that's like

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🚮

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of him

copper nacelle Jul 21, 2018, 2:32 AM

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0009:err:module:fixup_imports_ilonly mscoree.dll not found, IL-only binary L"dnSpy.exe" cannot be loaded

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agony

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i've had this error for like an hour

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finna give up

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System.IO.FileNotFoundException: Could not load file or assembly 'PresentationFramework, Version=4.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=31bf3856ad364e35' or one of its dependencies.

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i ran it in some starcraft wine instance i had

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zote

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almost worked

rain cedar Jul 21, 2018, 2:36 AM

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Have you tried making it work?

copper nacelle Jul 21, 2018, 2:36 AM

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no

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good idea

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[ERROR] FATAL UNHANDLED EXCEPTION: System.TypeLoadException: Could not resolve type with token 01000587

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ree

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so close but so far

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ok i just copied random dlls related to it

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[ERROR] FATAL UNHANDLED EXCEPTION: System.TypeLoadException: Could not set up parent class, due to: Could not load type of field 'System.Windows.Application:_appMimeType' (24) due to: Could not resolve type with token 0100001c assembly:WindowsBase, Version=4.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=31bf3856ad364e35 type:MS.Internal.SecurityCriticalDataForSet`1 member:<none> assembly:Z:\home\home\Downloads\dnspy_3.0.2\PresentationFramework.dll type:Application member:<none>

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idk if this is progress or not

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the answer is not i just got back to my old error

dark wigeon Jul 21, 2018, 2:48 AM

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not sure if you guys need this or not but I wrote a program to view the fsm files visually like this

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reads directly from assets files

copper nacelle Jul 21, 2018, 2:48 AM

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give link

solemn rivet Jul 21, 2018, 2:48 AM

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give soul

dark wigeon Jul 21, 2018, 2:48 AM

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📎 FSMViewer.zip

copper nacelle Jul 21, 2018, 2:48 AM

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thank u

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fuck linux

solemn rivet Jul 21, 2018, 2:49 AM

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soul when

copper nacelle Jul 21, 2018, 2:49 AM

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whatever this is

dark wigeon Jul 21, 2018, 2:49 AM

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yeah sorry its wpf

copper nacelle Jul 21, 2018, 2:49 AM

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is probably better

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yeah i couldn't get dnspy running either

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i've given up

dark wigeon Jul 21, 2018, 2:49 AM

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well

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could make it export to svg or something with dot core if you needed

copper nacelle Jul 21, 2018, 2:49 AM

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nah

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gonna reboot back to windows for 10 centuries again

solemn rivet Jul 21, 2018, 2:51 AM

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what files should I use as input?

dark wigeon Jul 21, 2018, 2:51 AM

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level files or resources.assets

solemn rivet Jul 21, 2018, 2:51 AM

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got it

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please tell me it gives me a list of every fsm in that asset

dark wigeon Jul 21, 2018, 2:51 AM

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yes

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the graph is a bit derpy because I couldn't find a library to handle it so it's kinda homemade

solemn rivet Jul 21, 2018, 2:52 AM

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I love you

copper nacelle Jul 21, 2018, 2:52 AM

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holy shit it has variables

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this is great

dark wigeon Jul 21, 2018, 2:53 AM

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the square brackets are byte sizes

solemn rivet Jul 21, 2018, 2:53 AM

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new modding era has begun (?)

copper nacelle Jul 21, 2018, 2:53 AM

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i crashed it

dark wigeon Jul 21, 2018, 2:53 AM

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i think double clicking select crashes it 😐

copper nacelle Jul 21, 2018, 2:53 AM

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it does

dark wigeon Jul 21, 2018, 2:53 AM

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weird assetstools bug

copper nacelle Jul 21, 2018, 2:53 AM

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can you open multiple files at once

solemn rivet Jul 21, 2018, 2:53 AM

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was about to ask that

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seems like you cannot

dark wigeon Jul 21, 2018, 2:54 AM

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nope

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I guess I could add that

copper nacelle Jul 21, 2018, 2:54 AM

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yes please

dark wigeon Jul 21, 2018, 2:54 AM

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tabs or something?

copper nacelle Jul 21, 2018, 2:54 AM

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one list + search would be godly

solemn rivet Jul 21, 2018, 2:54 AM

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tabs, ye

copper nacelle Jul 21, 2018, 2:54 AM

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tbh

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hollow knight fsm still looking great

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solemn rivet Jul 21, 2018, 2:54 AM

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tbf an interface somewhat similar to unity studio would be godlike

dark wigeon Jul 21, 2018, 2:55 AM

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ah gotcha

solemn rivet Jul 21, 2018, 2:55 AM

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ffs