archived-modding-development

[compact sedge]

idk

[tranquil glen]

Ok cool I'll do testing when I'm home. Thanks

[compact sedge]

ok actually idk

the ones in the false knight arena aren't falling ones

actually the whole time you're considered to be on flat ground

but what happens is you are slightly pushed to the right or left by the slope itself

so it looks like this

and every update that left wall pushes you to the right so you're not intersecting it but since your character is still considered "grounded" by the game, the height is lowered to touch the ground which causes you to intersect that wall... etc etc.

which is more boring and less helpful behavior

but that's what debugmod says

or possibly it's something else

oh man the velocity totally gets stored tho

it's just you fly off the side

[young walrus]

The two axes of velocity don't transfer at all from what I've seen

Like, you can't turn insane y speed into x speed

Which is unfortunate

[compact sedge]

no, but I thought they were asking about using it to build up negative y speed to skip through a floor

which I think would be possible

[young walrus]

Yeah I agree

[compact sedge]

but no this isn't like mario where your jump speed is partially affected by your y velocity

so you can get faster jumps by just falling faster

[tranquil glen]

So if I had a slope that went into a wall would I potentially build up horizontal speed until I clipped out or do I understand wrong

[compact sedge]

maybe?

I was able to get some weird speed storage even on lifeblood just pressing i while on a slope

but idk if it's useful considering most slopes are OOB and all of them probably should be out of bounds

[young walrus]

Hmm..... Good question. Cuz the slope would be trying to force you right

You might build up x speed from that

And same with y

So.... Might just be a matter of which direction the player hit box is thinner

So you might clip in the x direction

[hollow pier]

turn it into z speed so the mc flies out of the screen

[compact sedge]

I think the angle of the slope affects it too

[young walrus]

Probably

[compact sedge]

but idk

[young walrus]

Wonder if that's why elevator clips work

shrugs

Probably not

[copper nacelle]

why shrugs when you can ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[young walrus]

Otherwise it'd work the same on later patches

And cuz I'm on mobile

[copper nacelle]

o

[young walrus]

And 28

[compact sedge]

if you mean clipping by hitting an elevator while tricking the game to think you're on it

I thought that was because the game sets the knight's parent to the elevator when you get on an elevator

which causes its position to be relative to the elevator's position

[copper nacelle]

yeah but to go through walls you hit inventory while slamming against a ceiling

[compact sedge]

oh

huh

is collision done differently when you have the inventory up

or does hitting inventory cause the game updates to stop for long enough due to lag

that it can't keep up

[copper nacelle]

latter

iirc

cause you can alt tab out and it'll work

[compact sedge]

nice

[copper nacelle]

on win7 at least

[compact sedge]

glad rendering the inventory takes priority to physics updates

thanks tc

but I guess this is why most games pause when you open the inventory

seems like an easy hack to fix this problem

[tranquil glen]

Yeah it's lag that causes it

[tranquil glen]

Is there any way I can monitor my speed on 1.0.2.8?

I think the debug can do that but I don't have that for this patch

[copper nacelle]

port debug backwards

[tranquil glen]

I don't know how to do that unfortunately

[copper nacelle]

if you give me your managed folder i could just try building it

and fix basic errors

is there even an api for your version

[tranquil glen]

nah, i've got a mini debug sean made but I just replace the assembly-Csharp

can I just copy paste my folder into here or do i need to do it somewhere else?

[copper nacelle]

zip it and post it

[solemn rivet]

56 iirc the first api version was released after Hidden Dreams

possibly after even TGT

[tranquil glen]

this is already modded btw

it has some camera stuff and noclip iirc

[solemn rivet]

yeah

Kry, I didn't have the time to catch up to chat today

what changed in the low swings route?

I see there were like infinitely many new messages

[copper nacelle]

^

[solemn rivet]

because last time I check, you got Wings and everything was fine and dandy

20 swings

[tranquil glen]

basically i realized i couldn't get back out of CoT without taking a stag cause every way out needs a nail hit and I had to rest at a bench to get to wings

got dive to ring stag bell, a bit scary section but no extra hits

[copper nacelle]

nice

[tranquil glen]

then got back to crossroads and realized it would be infected since i got wings and fk skip would no longer work and so i'm locked out of getting VS unless i do a hellish early thorns which is basically impossible RTA

[copper nacelle]

what's your version num again

[tranquil glen]

so now I don't have a reliable source of pfloat for the run but i can get cdash and dnail then kill hornet with dive get dash and get thorns

and i don't think i'll ever need pfloat

1028

[copper nacelle]

ty

[tranquil glen]

so thats the update

still 20 swings but more stuff to do and never get vs

although if this slope stuff does let me clip through walls then maybe I could get to walljump in 0 swings getting it to 19

[solemn rivet]

oh that's nice

too bad infection messes up fk skip

[tranquil glen]

yeah

[solemn rivet]

inb4 dashslash gets added into the route

[tranquil glen]

doubt it

[solemn rivet]

how are you getting dive? Let SM kill itself?

with risky's strat

[tranquil glen]

yeah

[solemn rivet]

nice

[copper nacelle]

is DRM the steam one?

[solemn rivet]

yeah

drm-free is gog

and pirated versions

[copper nacelle]

[tranquil glen]

yeah ok i don't think i'm getting 0 hit walljump anyway but it'd still be good to know

[copper nacelle]

can you try this dll

[tranquil glen]

ok i'm using it now

what should it be doing

[copper nacelle]

any text in the top left

or any modlog generated

cause i'll consider that a success tbh

[tranquil glen]

uh

no

[solemn rivet]

modlog

m8 there's no api

[tranquil glen]

I have neither text in top left nor a modlog

[copper nacelle]

fuck

[tranquil glen]

Also i can't quit out to menu

[copper nacelle]

also gradow that's the built api for that version

[tranquil glen]

get a black screen if i try

[copper nacelle]

ah fuck

[solemn rivet]

oh!

so it works, Kry

[copper nacelle]

gonna git reset soft before 1.3.0.8

cause that added stuff

and changed a bunch of stuff which doesn't exist

[solemn rivet]

reset hard or no balls

[copper nacelle]

soft is killing the commit tho

[solemn rivet]

go back in time or no balls

[copper nacelle]

might have gone a few commits too far

and by a few i mean 11

[compact sedge]

this is why you use rebase -i

and not reset

[copper nacelle]

no

[solemn rivet]

I don't even get what rebase actually does

[copper nacelle]

that's why i pull from master and try again

[compact sedge]

rebase is: go back in time this many commits and rewrite history

basically

I saw a talk at SCALE earlier this year that basically taught me all I know about using git

https://www.socallinuxexpo.org/sites/default/files/presentations/scale_2018_git.pdf this one

[solemn rivet]

much thank

[tranquil glen]

unless you need me to test something like right now which it doesn't sound like, i've got to go away from my computer atm

[copper nacelle]

wait one sec

[tranquil glen]

sure

thanks for doing this at all tbh, random ass request

[copper nacelle]

nvm

it said build succeeded

but it didn't

[tranquil glen]

rip

[copper nacelle]

wait nvm again

was on debug linux and swapping to normal worked

[tranquil glen]

ok cool

same as last time

just to make sure i'm checking right place where would a modlog go

[copper nacelle]

darn

[solemn rivet]

saves

[copper nacelle]

give output log pls

[tranquil glen]

wait I think there is a modlog

unless this is left over from something else

I have that

where's outputlog

[copper nacelle]

hollow_knight_Data

[tranquil glen]

there you go

[rain cedar]

Some of the patches aren't gonna work 100% because of changed function parameters

[tranquil glen]

ok I very much have to go

[copper nacelle]

[tranquil glen]

thanks again tho

[copper nacelle]

[solemn rivet]

[hexed tangle]

[fair rampart]

Does anyone have a solution to the game not recognizing a controller after Lightbringer MOD install?

[copper nacelle]

swap to beta and use beta api

[solemn rivet]

Use kbm

[copper nacelle]

^

[flat forum]

@copper nacelle congrats on the record!

Good Job

[copper nacelle]

kdt has record tho

ty tho

[flat forum]

KDT doesn't count

KDT descendant of the Gods

[copper nacelle]

also hard mode is easier than normal mode

real shit

[flat forum]

I only count the records of Mortals

[copper nacelle]

descendant of gods

more like

god himself

@flat forum any ideas for lost lord idk

[flat forum]

hmm

I'm not sure if I have tried the latest version?

[copper nacelle]

you have; it's the one that has the unfixed one shot you bug

[flat forum]

ah

fix ti

[hollow pier]

make it lost bin

[flat forum]

what's the lord's health

[copper nacelle]

1.5k

[flat forum]

and the balloons' spawn rate?

[copper nacelle]

normal atm

[hollow pier]

what if he spawned big ones

[flat forum]

maybe make it

If it's like 3 seconds, make it calculated like

6s*(LostLordCurrentHealth/1500)

• 1

[hollow pier]

what if he didnt spawn them at all and it was just a big bamboozle

[flat forum]

or 0.7 ish

[copper nacelle]

he doesn't spawn them for the first half of the fight

[hollow pier]

what if at all

[copper nacelle]

no

[flat forum]

at earlier versions there were no balloons

[hollow pier]

so you never reach the second phase

what if every time you killed him a balloon killed you and you had to retry it for 3 more hours

[flat forum]

What if balloons explode upon deatg

[hollow pier]

but they do

[copper nacelle]

seems like it'd be kinda unfair with explosions on death but idk

cause it's fairly fast as is

[flat forum]

make LL slower but explodering balloons

explosions still deal 1 damage

[copper nacelle]

slower

big :echREE:

[floral furnace]

56 what do i place in the InsertAction parameters

[compact sedge]

oh that's what it's called

im a meme

it's

fsm

[floral furnace]

HeroController.instance.spellControl.InsertAction("Fireball Antic", FsmStateAction needed here, 0);

[compact sedge]

statename

action

index

index should probably be 0 so it inserts it at the front

[floral furnace]

yeah i placed 0 already

[compact sedge]

what kind of action do you want

call method or something fancier

[floral furnace]

well i did this cuz whenever i casted a spell and try to transition it to something else when i have lower than 30 stam, it would freeze me in the air with the animation

so essentially i want to make that NOT happen with the insertaction method

[copper nacelle]

yeah so you'd have your insertaction be a call method right

and that'd decrease 30 stamina if it can

[floral furnace]

yeah

[copper nacelle]

otherwise

set the state on spell control back to something normal

[floral furnace]

oh ok its a new call method aighty then

[compact sedge]

seems logical to me. if you try to use a IntCompare action things will get messy

because you'll have to deal with fsmints

which are not ints

well

sorta

[copper nacelle]

imo set it to Inactive

should work

[compact sedge]

^

[floral furnace]

for the statename?

[copper nacelle]

no

[floral furnace]

or the transition

[copper nacelle]

in your call method

[compact sedge]

seems like you have a working functional CallMethod

and you just have to change the state it sets it to

if you don't have enough stamina

alternatively maybe place the CallMethod in a different FsmState since the state you're using might not work for it.

[copper nacelle]

no it'll work fine

[floral furnace]

public void InitializeFireballFSM()
        {
            try
            {
                HeroController.instance.spellControl.InsertAction("Fireball Antic", new CallMethod
                {
                    behaviour = GameManager.instance.GetComponent<StaminaUI>(),
                    methodName = "OnCastFireball",
                    parameters = new FsmVar[0],
                    everyFrame = false
                }, 0);
            }
            catch
            {
                Modding.Logger.Log("Error initializing Fireball");
            }             
        }


public void OnCastFireball()
        {
            if (Stamina.curStamina < 30)
            {
                //Change the state over here
            }
            Stamina.curStamina -= 30;
            Modding.Logger.Log("CASTING FIREBALL");
        }

hows this?

[copper nacelle]

seems good

[compact sedge]

that's fine you just need to make sure that the state(s) it's setting in OnCastFireball when stamina is too low won't cause storage

[copper nacelle]

why the try catch tho

[floral furnace]

Sean said so

[compact sedge]

I'll tell you why

[floral furnace]

cuz you may never know if the init fucks up

[compact sedge]

because FSMs can change between game versions

but more importantly

when you get an NRE and you're on windows

you have to look at the output log

which is not located in a nice location on windows

otherwise it effectively silently fails

if TTacco had the Player.log and, say, the grep utility, the try catch would be pointless because he could just check there for the error.

also

be smart about this

do catch (Exception e)

and Log ("Error initializing Fireball " + e);

so you can see the actual error

[floral furnace]

oh yeah so i can see the actual exception thats thrown

[copper nacelle]

don't you do e.Message

or am i high

[compact sedge]

no need

e has a string cast

built into it

[copper nacelle]

agony

[floral furnace]

HeroController.instance.spellControl.ChangeTransition() i use this method for cancelling it out right by sending it to either the end of FSM flow or in another place

[copper nacelle]

yeah

send it to inactive

[compact sedge]

btw check the case of that

it could be Inactive or inactive

and case does matter

[floral furnace]

it wants an event name for the middle parameter

aight ill check it now

[copper nacelle]

it's Inactive

[floral furnace]

well thanks then

so whats the event name?

[copper nacelle]

no don't do changetransition

whoops

do

HeroController.instance.spellControl.SetState("Inactive");

what you said but you had the wrong method

[compact sedge]

hey 56 how do you video edit

[copper nacelle]

ffmpeg

[compact sedge]

since ur an expert in everything

so I wanna like mask out these chains in these 3 seconds of video

but idk how to video edit

[copper nacelle]

idk how to do that at all

[floral furnace]

aight it worked thanks 67 and angry angle

[copper nacelle]

ask veru tbh

he might know

[flat forum]

hey TTacco

[compact sedge]

tbh probably need video editing tools I don't have. And a computer that's 5 times faster

[flat forum]

what are you making?

[copper nacelle]

stamina mod tm

[flat forum]

Mask out the chains as in... remove them?

make them invisible?

[compact sedge]

yeah like find some way to make them disappear but not by just editing it frame by frame

[flat forum]

Weeellllll...

I don't think there's too much movement there so you can probably just make 1 drawing where you have removed the chains

and then position it

wait

I can try doing that

with this frame

[compact sedge]

hey that's not a bad way to do it but I'd need to mess with the lighting

[copper nacelle]

foldingpapers stop being good at life

ty

[flat forum]

No

because when I'm good at life

[compact sedge]

folding can you do it on this frame you can see more of the knight

[flat forum]

others are good too

and that is the ultimate goal

[compact sedge]

and make the eyes transparent instead of colored

but uh thanks for doing this ur super cool and aweomse

wow I butchered that word

[flat forum]

aweomse

[copper nacelle]

aweomse

[flat forum]

56 don't bully AA

this is my job

by the way, transparent how?

[compact sedge]

uhh idk do you have like a photo editing program

[flat forum]

I only have my phone and drawing program thingy

[compact sedge]

uhh

ok how about this I have a better idea

just draw a background for this scene. imagine no knight or chains

then I can try to key out the knight

with krita or something

(maybe I need to pull out the big guns aka gimp)

and then I'll just use your background plus the knight

[flat forum]

ok

[compact sedge]

and then I'll key out the knight a second time on the video clip with a garbage mask or something

and apply it as a burn filter

so you see the light of his eyes

shining onto his mask

[flat forum]

Ok, I'll first just remove the chains tho

[compact sedge]

here's a reference background

basically for ending cutscene 1, I want the first 8 seconds of the intro, followed by 3 seconds of the knight's eyes turning dark with the chains edited out. Then the knight staring at hallownest from the first cutscene at the text "flame consumed" appears. Then fade to black, credits.

that's my plan

idk what to do for the hornet ending tho. Most of ending 3 will be the same tho

because that cutscene fits incredibly well inspite of how I'm changing the radiance fight. Actually it might fit it better than it fits the vanilla game, but we'll see.

[floral furnace]

okay did it for all antics, fireball seems to work fine but quake and scream is still casting the spells, THEN freezing me in place

so do i have to find a state that gets called BEFORE Quake and Scream antic?

[copper nacelle]

probably

[floral furnace]

oof "Enter Quake"

ill try this

[copper nacelle]

hook Enter Quake and On Ground? imo

also maybe Level Check 3

[floral furnace]

nvm i did Quake Antic again

but instead of going straight to Inactive

i went to Spell End instead

[copper nacelle]

worked?

[floral furnace]

seems like it, let me test it some more

yup

[copper nacelle]

nice

wait why don't you just hook Can Cast? and Can Cast? QC

they go directly to inactive anyways

[floral furnace]

Well Spell End is the first thing i saw when checking once a spell ends, so i thought sending it there would make it transition to inactive instead of directly which caused me in a frozen animation

so i used HeroController.instance.spellControl.SetState("Spell End");

[copper nacelle]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[floral furnace]

Hmmm

¯_(ツ)_/¯

so basically saying HeroController.instance.spellControl.SetState("Can Cast? QC");
wouldve done the same

OR

i shouldve made the new CallMethod's stateName to use Can Cast? QC

[copper nacelle]

no you'd addactions to Can Cast? QC and Can Cast?

and then in your method you'd change thee SetState to Inactive

[floral furnace]

yeah thats what i meant by my 2nd statement

anyway... if it works, it works (also i didnt know about Can Cast? QC so sorry about that)

[rain cedar]

Why are there separate checks for quick and normal cast?

[flat forum]

by the way, 56

[rain cedar]

That's dumb

[flat forum]

I tried your code thingy

[copper nacelle]

because tc

[flat forum]

didn't work

[copper nacelle]

pain

you could destroy the animator might work idk

[flat forum]

Can I just destr-

Yeah

[copper nacelle]

wow nice the Can Cast? QC and Can Cast? are exactly the same

real good code

[floral furnace]

oh wait 56 i dont think your method wouldve worked cuz im trying to give each spells different stam cost or i dunno 🤔

[copper nacelle]

o

yeah then it wouldn't work

[floral furnace]

otherwise i wouldve just went with gradows earlier method

instead of touching fsms smh

[copper nacelle]

what was that?

hooking cancast?

[floral furnace]

yeah

then setting "canBackDash" or something to false

im pretty sure that bool is obsolete, is it?

[copper nacelle]

yeah afaik

[floral furnace]

aight the only thing left is the actual Stamina Bar UI

and uhh Balancing™

[flat forum]

Ok, AA

I'm done with the Human I was asked to draw

(which was pretty good for a first attempt at drawing people except it didn't have a face)

[copper nacelle]

headless horseman

more like

faceless faceman

[flat forum]

faceless faceman

it's in art-discussion if you want to see it

rate it with a 4 on the scale of 1 to 10

but keep in mind it's my first attempt

[copper nacelle]

10

[flat forum]

nO

[copper nacelle]

yes

[flat forum]

...ok

thing is

I can now go back to removing the chains

[copper nacelle]

neat

it looks cool af imo

just make him have a suit

and he's a professional grimm reaper

[rain cedar]

Perfect 5/7

[flat forum]

But the design was The Gayinator's, not mine

@compact sedge

it's... Meh

sorry

[fair rampart]

Can anyone shed some light on why my controller isn’t being recognized after I install Lightbringer and the common Mod it needs to run? It worked fine before the install. I’m stumped. 😣

[steep sail]

#archived-modding-help

Can anyone shed some light on why my controller isn’t being recognized after I install Lightbringer and the common Mod it needs to run? It worked fine before the install. I’m stumped. :persevere:
````Thom - 15-07-2018 16:45 | #modding`

[fair rampart]

Thanks

[tranquil glen]

do you guys know if the black egg opens after 3 dreamers have been killed or after each individual one has been killed?

cause wouldn't it be great if you could like dupe lurien and then not have to do one of the three

[celest mango]

any advise or tips for installing mods for mac. I have played around with it and feel like I'm close to having it right but can't find a good guide to tell me what exactly is going wrong

[rain cedar]

@tranquil glen It's an integer that counts to 3

[tranquil glen]

so theoretically you could kill the same one twice and it would work?

[rain cedar]

In theory, maybe

I don't think it will work to room dupe them, though

That duplicates stuff because of a quirk in saving scene variables

Dreamers are saved on the player

[tranquil glen]

ah rip

[rain cedar]

You should try it anyway

Just in case

[tranquil glen]

yeah i will in a bit

I'm just making sure that the low nail press route doesn't have any more issues

i'm also not even sure if i can room dupe that room

[rain cedar]

Yeah maybe not

[fallen pewter]

Hi, can someone tell me where to get the Redwing mod and the blackmoth mod?

[young walrus]

📌

[fallen pewter]

Oh haha

Thanks

[tranquil glen]

how hard would it be to make it so i could kill my character by like pressing a button?

is that something someone with very little knowledge could do?

[compact sedge]

debug mod

[tranquil glen]

yeah but i ain't got that for 1028

[compact sedge]

you ain't got modding api either

why are you on 1028 anyway

[copper nacelle]

all glitches

[tranquil glen]

because i need it for glitches

[compact sedge]

ok but like... you know using mods in speedruns is cheating right?

[tranquil glen]

i need it for testing

[compact sedge]

ok

[tranquil glen]

not for the actual speedruns

[compact sedge]

no api on 1028 tho

so I guess you're stuck with assembly mods

[solemn rivet]

56 is like god of button rebinding

also Kry just got home. How did the stream go?

and 56, did you ever finish RW?

[tranquil glen]

they were ok

lost two runs for real reasons

lost 2 for accidentally pressing x

[solemn rivet]

rip

[tranquil glen]

also realized that after dive if i die before getting back to crossroads or fall oob the run is over

like no chance of recovery at all

[solemn rivet]

that's... Not good

[tranquil glen]

same with if I die between taking the CoT elevator and kings stag bench

but that's easier to avoid

[copper nacelle]

oof

also yeah i finished rw

the ending was weird af

[solemn rivet]

ofc

that game IS weird af

[copper nacelle]

true

[celest mango]

anyone know of a tutorial for modding on a mac?

[compact sedge]

uh no but I can help you

so basically

find your hollow knight app

and right click and show contents

and then in there go to Contents/Resources/Data/Managed

and then you should see a file called Assembly-CSharp.dll

replace that with the modding api one (if you're on lifeblood regular just download it from the drive if you're on lifeblood beta let me know right now)

and then make a folder in there called Mods

and put any mods you wanna install in that folder

their .dll files

[celest mango]

how do i know which one i'm on

[compact sedge]

uh

do you own the game on steam

[celest mango]

yes

[compact sedge]

do steam achievements work

like have you gotten any steam achievements since lifeblood came out for doing stuff

[celest mango]

not sure i haven't played much yet. i played this on my roommates switch and thought i would like to play it modded

[compact sedge]

ok

you're on lifeblood regular then

you have to explicitly opt into the beta

[celest mango]

ok

i have gone into the steam folder and played around with a bit. I kind of have a hard time finding some of the files that need to be replaced for various mods. could they hidden for some reason?

[compact sedge]

ok do you see Hollow Knight.app

or no

[celest mango]

ok I followed your first instructions and they are different from what I have been trying. I think you solved my problem.

You are my hero and a god like figure in my life.

I shall name my first born Avenging Angle

[compact sedge]

...

ok

[celest mango]

thanks

one more question if your still there are most mods compatible. like can I try a bunch at once and find what I like or will I have to try them one at a time?

[compact sedge]

uh most are compativle

if they work with the API then yes

and if not then they don't work on mac anyway

to check if they work with the api they have [api] in the google drive

also like two api mods don't work on lifeblood

these are NGG (which is obsolete anyway) and boss rush (sorry about that)

[celest mango]

i followed your instructions and I have an extra .xml file left from installing the api did i do something wrong?

seems to be working though

[compact sedge]

no it's a useless file

doesn't matter

[celest mango]

ok thanks

[compact sedge]

also uh I know there's a download for the api for mac

but I'd highly recommend using the universal one

because it's much newer

and some mods may break on that older version of the api

[celest mango]

ok I will install that one.

[tranquil glen]

Avenging you mentioned i'd need to do assembly modding, could you get me started with that?

[copper nacelle]

https://github.com/0xd4d/dnSpy/releases

[tranquil glen]

just like what do i open with what program is all i need

o

[copper nacelle]

d n s p y

[tranquil glen]

yeah i see now

[rain cedar]

The stuff that's already in is in OnScreenDebugInfo

Or maybe I moved it

Now I'm doubting myself

[solemn rivet]

Kry what exactly do you need?

[copper nacelle]

what key do you want to kys

[solemn rivet]

kms

[tranquil glen]

i was planning on making a kill button and thought it'd be simple enough that i could make it without having to ask someone else to

eh whatever really i don't use keyboard

so it could be anything

[solemn rivet]

kill? As is, back to bench? Or just hazard respawn?

[tranquil glen]

yeah back to bench

[solemn rivet]

just set some key to take all your hp

[tranquil glen]

the other thing is a display of my speed which i figured i probably was not smart enough to do

[rain cedar]

HeroController.rb2d.velocity

[solemn rivet]

uhh that'd be harder

oh

would that work for cdash and stuff?

[rain cedar]

rb2d might be private idk

Yeah it works

[solemn rivet]

oh, that's awesome then

I thought cdash was a completely different go

[rain cedar]

Could just do HeroController.instance.gameObject.GetComponent<Rigidbody2D>()

[copper nacelle]

this would work right

[solemn rivet]

^

[rain cedar]

Yeah probably

Ok I did move it

It's all in ModCheats

[solemn rivet]

and for speed, you can just mimic KDT's bossrush and use the geo counter

[rain cedar]

Just use imgui tbh

[tranquil glen]

but i'd want x and y seperate

[solemn rivet]

imgui is just so ugly

[rain cedar]

It already is

[compact sedge]

just make 2 counters

[solemn rivet]

it's a vector2 or vector3

[tranquil glen]

oh 2 geo counters?

[copper nacelle]

yeah

instantiate the geo counter

[rain cedar]

Wtf just use imgui

[copper nacelle]

and move it down a bit

[rain cedar]

You're overcomplicating this

[copper nacelle]

imgui more like

idk how

[tranquil glen]

lol

[solemn rivet]

imgui is easier, yeah

but

ugly af

56: just create a label inside a GUI

there should be an OnGUI() in HeroController iirc

just add the velocity as a label there

[copper nacelle]

there's one in ModCheats as well

i can just use that

@tranquil glen

e toggles speed and w kills you

or it should

[tranquil glen]

yo thanks

does this also have the other stuff?

[copper nacelle]

yeah

[tranquil glen]

thanks a ton

[copper nacelle]

yw

[hazy sentinel]

how does one SpeedDie in real life

[copper nacelle]

5-10mg of nitrate orally

i think

might need to inject it idk

[compact sedge]

anything that disrupts metabolism

cyanide will do it

but it's painful

[copper nacelle]

doesn't cyanide cause a lack of oxygen to the mitochondria

or am i high

that might've been nitrate

or benzine

idk

[compact sedge]

it causes one of the stages of the redox reaction which turns pyruvate into energy to fail

[copper nacelle]

ah

[tranquil glen]

ok so it says cheats in the corner in main menu but things don't work

killing, speed, noclip and camera stuff all don't work

[rain cedar]

56 machine broke

[solemn rivet]

lemme take a look

public class OnScreenDebugInfo : MonoBehaviour
{
    // Token: 0x060022F6 RID: 8950 RVA: 0x000C843C File Offset: 0x000C663C
    private void Awake()
    {
        this.fpsRect = new Rect(7f, 5f, 100f, 25f);
        this.infoRect = new Rect((float)(Screen.width - 105), 5f, 100f, 70f);
        this.inputRect = new Rect(7f, 65f, 300f, 120f);
        this.loadProfilerRect = new Rect((float)(Screen.width / 2) - 50f, 5f, 100f, 25f);
        this.tfrRect = new Rect(7f, 20f, 100f, 25f);
        ModCheats.instance == null;
    }```

[rain cedar]

I need to call ModCheats.instance from somewhere to make it work

[solemn rivet]

I can't find that call tho

[rain cedar]

It's right there

I thought that's what you were pasting that for

Because it's a weird way to do it

[solemn rivet]

yeah

bool flag = GameManager.instance.IsGameplayScene();

if (flag)
            {
                if (this.rb2d == null)
                {
                    this.rb2d = HeroController.instance.GetComponent<Rigidbody2D>();
                }
                GUI.Label(new Rect(0f, 0f, 200f, 200f), string.Format("(X, Y): {0}, {1}", this.rb2d.velocity.x, this.rb2d.velocity.y));
            }
            else
            {
                GUI.Label(new Rect(0f, 0f, 200f, 200f), "Cheats");
            }```

and the same thing for the keys

        if (!GameManager.instance.IsGameplayScene())
        {
            return;
        }
        if (Input.GetKeyDown(KeyCode.W))
        {
            HeroController.instance.StartCoroutine(HeroController.instance.Die());
        }
        if (Input.GetKeyDown(KeyCode.E))
        {
            this.showSpeed = !this.showSpeed;
        }```

so IsGameplayScene is failing

    public bool IsGameplayScene()
    {
        this.UpdateSceneName();
        return !this.IsNonGameplayScene();
    }```

brilliant!

how do we know if it's a gameplay scene? Simple! If it's not a non-gameplay scene!

[tranquil glen]

lol

[compact sedge]

what if IsNotGameplayScene just returned !this.IsGameplayScene

[rain cedar]

That's not even bad

It's much easier to keep track of cutscenes/menus than gameplay scenes

[solemn rivet]

sadly no, AAcs public bool IsNonGameplayScene() { this.UpdateSceneName(); return this.IsCinematicScene() || this.sceneName == "Knight Pickup" || this.sceneName == "Pre_Menu_Intro" || this.sceneName == "Menu_Title" || this.sceneName == "End_Credits" || this.sceneName == "Menu_Credits" || this.sceneName == "Cutscene_Boss_Door" || this.sceneName == "PermaDeath_Unlock" || this.sceneName == "End_Game_Completion" || this.sceneName == "BetaEnd"; }

[compact sedge]

Why would you need both IsGameplayScene and IsNonGameplayScene tho

and if you use IsGameplayScene it runs UpdateSceneName twice

which is bad

[solemn rivet]

but why make a whole new method for that

[compact sedge]

and unneeded

[solemn rivet]

yeah

you can just run IsNonGameplayScene and check for false

and get the same result

it won't let me die

it's private

ffs

[compact sedge]

TFW you want to die but can't

[solemn rivet]

try this kry

hafta leave

[tranquil glen]

thanks a bunch

[solemn rivet]

but, I changed the check from IsGameplayScene to acceptingInput

which is inside HeroController, so should be fine

[tranquil glen]

i'll try it after this csgo game

[solemn rivet]

k

[tranquil glen]

can't really test during

[copper nacelle]

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh

what'd I fuck up

just die being private?

[tranquil glen]

yeah this works now thanks

btw what is speed measured in

units per second?

[copper nacelle]

Linear velocity of the rigidbody.

idk

[tranquil glen]

oh wait but the speed goes away if i do stuff

like open invntory or cdash

[solemn rivet]

yeah

I can sorta fix that

any ideas, 56?

what was breaking is that IsGameplayScene wasn't working

so I changed it to acceptingInput

but

[copper nacelle]

check if the hero state is not no_input

i think that'd work

lemme double check

yeah it looks like it'd work

it's just idle during inventory and cdash

[solemn rivet]

GameManager.instance.gameState == GameState.PLAYING this should work

[copper nacelle]

neat

[solemn rivet]

trying this HeroController.instance.acceptingInput || HeroController.instance.hero_state != GlobalEnums.ActorStates.no_input

[copper nacelle]

seems good

[solemn rivet]

@tranquil glen

[tranquil glen]

awesome

that works now

thanks

[solemn rivet]

np!

routing low jumps% yet?

[tranquil glen]

not yet

need to complete a low nail run first

then i'll route that

[solemn rivet]

got it

tell us when you're about to try another stream

we'll add an on-screen nail-presses counter

[tranquil glen]

lol

[solemn rivet]

56 stream when

[copper nacelle]

uhh

idk i could try an any% nmg run but it'll be bad

[tranquil glen]

ok so if i go through a loadzone with noclip on it teleports me

maybe to the location of the loadzone i went through in the previous room?

i can't really tell

[solemn rivet]

lol

it's the mod

dunno why it's coded like that

[rain cedar]

It wasn't

56 broke it

[solemn rivet]

        if (Input.GetKeyDown(KeyCode.Q))
        {
            this.noclip = !this.noclip;
            this.noclipPos = HeroController.instance.gameObject.transform.position;
        }```when you press Q it saves your position

            this.noclipPos = HeroController.instance.gameObject.transform.position;```and this updates every frame if you have noclip on

and then when you transition...

            if (HeroController.instance.transitionState == HeroTransitionState.WAITING_TO_TRANSITION)
            {
                HeroController.instance.gameObject.transform.position = this.noclipPos;
                return;
            }```

[rain cedar]

There should be an else on that

To set noclippos to it

[solemn rivet]

clippos

what I assume is happening is you hold a direction while transitioning

and that builds speed

[rain cedar]

Oh ok it replaced the else with a return

[solemn rivet]

should be checking if transition before inputs

[rain cedar]

I guess that makes sense

Last bit should override though

[solemn rivet]

because if it's a transition, it returns

and doesn't change the velocity at all

or the pos, actually

[rain cedar]

WAITING_TO_TRANSITION means it's not a transition

[solemn rivet]

uh

[rain cedar]

That's the default playing state

[solemn rivet]

oh

I thought it was an intermediary state between "not transitioning" and "transitioning"

my bad

so... how fix

I can add a check for transition and set heropos to the transform pos in that case

[rain cedar]

Idk should be fine

Idk should be fine

It already does that

[tranquil glen]

so should i test the one you just sent or not?

[solemn rivet]

no

are you holding any input while transitioning?

[tranquil glen]

sometimes

not always

always teleports

[solemn rivet]

hm

is that how it's done in debug, Sean?

[rain cedar]

Yes

[solemn rivet]

weird then

[still hare]

someone make a DespacitoKnight mod

[flat forum]

What will it be like tho

[copper nacelle]

you make it

ty

[flat forum]

I?

[copper nacelle]

no

@still hare make it urself

[flat forum]

by the way, Visual Studio Dark Theme good

[copper nacelle]

yeah

[flat forum]

why isn't AA a modder?

[copper nacelle]

ask simo idk

[compact sedge]

hey simo why isn't AA a modder?

[leaden hedge]

who is AA

AA batteries aren't people silly

[flat forum]

are

AAA batteries people tho

[leaden hedge]

yes

[flat forum]

@compact sedge
more like
Angery Avenging Angle

[copper nacelle]

meme

[flat forum]

so that it's AAA and you can become a peoples

[compact sedge]

Angery

[flat forum]

56 what have you done

delet

bad 56

[leaden hedge]

nice avatars

[compact sedge]

eww

why would you do this

[copper nacelle]

memes

[leaden hedge]

mems

[flat forum]

mms

also, Good news

destroying the Animator worked!

they don't move anymore

on the other hand, the sound is still there and I need to find a way to remove that too

how does I remove the Deepnest sounds

are they a Destroyable Object too?

(maniacal laughter)

[copper nacelle]

@flat forum

UnityEngine.Object.Destroy(GameObject.Find("Audio Player Centipedes"));

[flat forum]

OhOk

they really were an Object

honestly I'm starting to get worried that the game will lag when entering rooms merely from the amount of things I destroy

[copper nacelle]

boi

[flat forum]

U

[copper nacelle]

mantis gods destroys like 99% of a scene

you'll be fine

[flat forum]

I trust you

because you are more experienced than me

[compact sedge]

tbh game will lag less

[copper nacelle]

there's your first mistake

[compact sedge]

because less objects in scene

[flat forum]

Ok

I think that's good for now

I'm gonna release the mod for you to test if there's anything I've forgotten

[compact sedge]

ok let me know I'll pull it and give it a shot once I'm done with my bio homework

[flat forum]

Oohh, what's your Bio homework

(honestly I find Biology really interesting if you get a good teacher)

[compact sedge]

uh I have to do a writeup on one plant

so I picked a plant that nobody cares about

[leaden hedge]

literally any plant

[flat forum]

The Fool Eater?

[compact sedge]

so that by the end of tomorrow, hopefully at least one person in my class of 20 people cares about it

[copper nacelle]

that nobody cares about it

[compact sedge]

rip

[flat forum]

Oh, one last thing

what's the Bool for the King's Statue in Ancient Basin

if you have gotten it?

I found fountainGeo, is that the one?

[compact sedge]

isn't it an int telling the game how much geo you put in

or is there also a bool

if you set it to 3000 the mask shard might just spawn

[flat forum]

gonna set it to 3000

(also I destroy all shards)

[copper nacelle]

[flat forum]

you don't really need them, do you?

[copper nacelle]

smh no 107%

[flat forum]

but then again you will never reach the thing that tells you how many percent you have

because No Dreamnail

[copper nacelle]

wtf

[flat forum]

Version 0.0.2 will be "successfully removed all living hazards"
0.0.3 is me removing NPCs
0.0.4 is successfully having removed all NPCs that are not Elderbug
0.0.5 adding Elderbug Dialogue
0.0.6 Polishing the Dialogue
0.0.7 is removing Sounds
0.0.8 is adding Sounds to replace them (the Deepnest crawling ambiance -> Wind)
0.0.9 is removing any background enemies and stuff (the jellyfish at the Teacher's Archives/The Alubas (if that's what they were called) at the QG bench/Deepnest foreground crawling enemies)
+
adding items received from shops as shiny things on the ground
1.0.0 will be the official release, making sure I haven't missed anything

[compact sedge]

super cool

one tiny question

why is there an empty Class1.cs file

[flat forum]

Oh um

must have forgotten to get rid of it?

which one is it?

[leaden hedge]

class1.cs

[compact sedge]

https://github.com/FoldingPapers/DeadHallownest

just in the top level

[flat forum]

ok, removed it, gonna push to Github in a sec

removed

[compact sedge]

/daŋk/

[tranquil glen]

Anyone know the dimensions of the knight?

[solemn rivet]

you mean the knight's hitbox?

[tranquil glen]

Yeah

Sorry, guess I should have specified that

[solemn rivet]

I can edit your modded file to also print that for you

[tranquil glen]

Seriously? That'd be great

[solemn rivet]

sure

I assume you still have that last one I sent you last night?

[tranquil glen]

Yeah

But not on my phone

[solemn rivet]

no, it's fine

if it's the same, it's fine

otherwise I'd ask you to send it to me

I think I got it

when you're home and can try it, just tell me

[tranquil glen]

Il be home in like 1.5 hours

[delicate temple]

Do you guys know the mod where it just shows the bosses health nothing else.

Thats the only mod i want for now.

[young walrus]

enemy hpbar mod does that

but also shows all enemy hp bars too when you hit them

[delicate temple]

K

[solemn rivet]

Kry, I tested it here and it seemed to work fine

If it doesn't, just tag me

[tranquil glen]

does his hitbox really never change no matter the animation?

or is it not working

[rain cedar]

Nah there's no reason to put work into an accurate hitbox

[tranquil glen]

huh

[leaden hedge]

having hitboxes move with animations feels really jank

although I doubt TC actually cared about the feel of the hitboxes and just did minimum effort

[compact sedge]

finally got around to fixing that pesky stupid bug in infinite grimm

where the text wouldn't show up

somehow a few lines of code got deleted but I forgot to readd them or replace them with something better

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tranquil glen]

a while back when we first found televator a flowchart for how elevators worked was posted and the problem was for 'elevator jostle down' they had put a -1 in a float or something

does anyone have that?

[rain cedar]

Why?

[tranquil glen]

oh i just want to look into elevators

see what i can mess with

like televator would send it way oob if there wasn't a failsafe right?

[rain cedar]

I don't have the fsm saved anymore

You could get it yourself pretty easily

[tranquil glen]

oh ok

how would i do that

[rain cedar]

FSM mod off the drive

It's a direct mod of PlayMaker.dll so it should work for any version

Make a folder called save_fsm in your save folder then just go somewhere with an elevator

[warped sinew]

Good old playmaker

[compact sedge]

Graig don't lie you love playmaker

It probably makes you happy seeing us suffer

[rain cedar]

I love the part where it runs so well

[warped sinew]

Without it HK wouldnt exist!

[compact sedge]

true

well

I mean I'm sure there's other FSM stuff they could have used

[warped sinew]

Actually thats a lie

HK would exist on stencyl

[compact sedge]

HK but it's written in flash

oh god this is from stencyl's website

[warped sinew]

So it would be a lot simpler of a game.

Yeah... thats it

It uses "otherwise" instead of "else"

10/10 best app goin round

[compact sedge]

I mean that's at the bottom of my list of problems with it but yeah

[rain cedar]

Also "always"

Which I assume is a while loop

[tranquil glen]

I like always tbh

[compact sedge]

how is this not scratch

[tranquil glen]

it is scratch

[compact sedge]

it might as well be scratch

[rain cedar]

Best loop syntax will always be for (;;)

[tranquil glen]

ok there's a 1.0.3.7 fsm mod and a 1.1.1.7, which should i use for 1.0.2.8?

[rain cedar]

1.0.3.7

If they're even different

I didn't think the playmaker version changed

[tranquil glen]

ah yes, Untagged, BB 1 through 36

my favourites

btw what should i use to open JSON derulo files?

[rain cedar]

Wtf is a derulo?

It's a text file

But you should use KDT's fsm viewer

https://github.com/KayDeeTee/HK-FSM-VIEWER

[tranquil glen]

there's just a guy named jason derulo

don't mind me

[tranquil glen]

there is still the thing with going through loadzones with noclip causing me to teleport in the mini debug

its not a big deal i can just turn off noclip as i go through just thought you should know

[solemn rivet]

Any ideas Sean?

[rain cedar]

Yeah undo whatever you broke

It worked fine before

[tranquil glen]

Lol, I was also able to zoom in and out with the camera, and turn noclip on and off while loading different rooms and can't any more if that gives any hints as to what changed

[solemn rivet]

Eh

I didn't mess with noclip at all tho

[rain cedar]

👀

[tranquil glen]

Could've been 56 I dunno

Like I said doesn't matter too much

[rain cedar]

My guess is something added is throwing an exception before the noclip code runs

[flat forum]

hey

anyone got to test the Alpha of Dead Hallownest?

[rain cedar]

I like how doing a bunch of compact null checks just looks like you were confused when you wrote the code

[compact sedge]

?

[rain cedar]

??

[compact sedge]

also nice function name

[rain cedar]

It's an internal wrapper for a virtual function

With try/catch

So mods can't fuck shit up

[compact sedge]

I still don't know why dumping your code in a function causes it to not fail if it fails the try catch but putting it directly in Initialize does

[rain cedar]

I don't know what you mean

[compact sedge]

like if I do

if (othermodExistsReflection) {
    meme = othermodnamespace.var;
}

in any method that runs while the other mod is missing, it fails but if I do

if (othermodExistsReflection) {
    meme = getOtherModVar();
}

memevar getOtherModVar() {
    return othermodnamespace.var;
}```
it never fails even if the other mod is missing.

[rain cedar]

You sure the second case even runs?

[compact sedge]

yes

I have code like that in grimmchild upgrades

[rain cedar]

Maybe you're just missing the error idk

That makes no sense

[compact sedge]

except there's NO error

when I do it this way: https://github.com/natis1/grimmchildupgrades/blob/master/grimmchildupgrades/Grimmchild Upgrades.cs#L129

https://github.com/natis1/grimmchildupgrades/blob/master/grimmchildupgrades/Grimmchild Upgrades.cs#L64

but if you move the contents of that function to in the if statement, guess what

if you're missing infinitegrimm.dll, it will not even load

[rain cedar]

Weird

[compact sedge]

and you'll get a modding api error, and in Player.log it will say assembly not found

[rain cedar]

Some quirk in C# I guess

[rain cedar]

Lol I just noticed this in the salt & sanctuary crash logs

Dev dude likes his folders

[flat forum]

what's the bool to kill Zote?

[compact sedge]

picked up mantis claw

apparently

[flat forum]

so I can have the skull in Greenpath

no, not the trigger

[compact sedge]

no idk

[flat forum]

there should be a bool

[compact sedge]

just set his fsm state as dead

when you enter

[rain cedar]

Wait I thought it was cloak

Does it really give you all the way to claw?

[flat forum]

I did a thing but it failed

[compact sedge]

I know for fact it's not cloak

because I tried to get neglect on a SS run that failed at mantis lords

[rain cedar]

Dying to the second easiest boss in the game lul

[compact sedge]

twice

on two different SS runs