#archived-modding-development | Hollow Knight | Page 139

compact sedge Jul 13, 2018, 5:16 AM

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let it run for a few frames

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so pipe those game objects to a coroutine

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that waits a short time before deletin

flat forum Jul 13, 2018, 5:17 AM

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(but I hate coroutines, they don't work when I make them)

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Ok, I'll try

compact sedge Jul 13, 2018, 5:17 AM

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they don't work because you aren't using a monobehavior

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and idk why

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let me make something for you

flat forum Jul 13, 2018, 5:18 AM

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yeah?

compact sedge Jul 13, 2018, 5:19 AM

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wait

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a sec

flat forum Jul 13, 2018, 5:21 AM

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Ok

compact sedge Jul 13, 2018, 5:23 AM

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https://gist.github.com/natis1/043d80259df05a3267556b24eac82d27

Gist

Simple starting template for your hollow knight mod

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Every mod should use this template

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or something similar

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and then just make EVERYTHING ELSE part of a monobehavior

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and monobehaviors can have coroutines

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and just add that monobehavior in that addcomponent function

rain cedar Jul 13, 2018, 5:25 AM

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Does that even compile?

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No comma between Mod and ITogglableMod and you don't implement anything from ITogglableMod either

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Wait you do have Unload

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Idk how I didn't see that

compact sedge Jul 13, 2018, 5:25 AM

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shit ur right let me fix

rain cedar Jul 13, 2018, 5:26 AM

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There's a space before using System as long as you're fixing shit

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But that's not an error just bad formatting

compact sedge Jul 13, 2018, 5:26 AM

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https://gist.github.com/natis1/043d80259df05a3267556b24eac82d27

Gist

Simple starting template for your hollow knight mod

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version 2

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fixes all the dungo stuff

flat forum Jul 13, 2018, 5:26 AM

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Ok

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I'll be back sooner or later

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I will release the first version once I stop those centipedes from moving

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and the next version will focus on removing all NPCs except Elderbug

rain cedar Jul 13, 2018, 5:28 AM

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Also that ModCommon check isn't safe

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It breaks if any of the "loaded" assemblies failed to load

compact sedge Jul 13, 2018, 5:28 AM

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oh that's why 56 got that error

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what's the fix?

rain cedar Jul 13, 2018, 5:28 AM

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https://github.com/seanpr96/HollowKnight.RandomizerMod/blob/master/RandomizerMod2.0/RandomizerMod.cs#L219

compact sedge Jul 13, 2018, 5:32 AM

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shouldn't it be assembly.GetTypes().Any(type => type.Namespace == "ModCommon")

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or better

rain cedar Jul 13, 2018, 5:33 AM

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Probably equivalent

compact sedge Jul 13, 2018, 5:33 AM

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                    if (assembly.GetTypes().All(type => type.Namespace != "ModCommon")) continue;
                    noModCommon = false;
                    break;

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https://gist.github.com/natis1/043d80259df05a3267556b24eac82d27 @flat forum version 3 and hopefully my final version of this done.

Gist

Simple starting template for your hollow knight mod

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just follow the very simple to follow instructions in the text below

rain cedar Jul 13, 2018, 5:40 AM

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Load order 30 seems like a really odd number

flat forum Jul 13, 2018, 5:40 AM

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Ok

compact sedge Jul 13, 2018, 5:40 AM

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it comes from... one of my mods

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well actually I probably shouldn't be using it

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because the GetInt and Language hooks are broken insofar as loadorder is concerned iirc

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that is

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the mods with the LOWER load order take priority over what ints and strings are set

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whereas with every other hook the mods with the highest load order take priority

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unless I read the modding api code wrong

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I should make a testcase to see if it's true

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actually I REALLY should make a testcase because this is gonna be a mild problem for redwing if it is in fact a real bug and not just something that seems like a bug looking at the code.

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but I'm lazy so I'll do it next week

solemn rivet Jul 13, 2018, 5:05 PM

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'ey @young walrus, is the room mapping project still going?

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I have some free time this coming week

young walrus Jul 13, 2018, 5:05 PM

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nobody has worked on it since i have that one day

compact sedge Jul 13, 2018, 5:06 PM

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sadgrub

young walrus Jul 13, 2018, 5:06 PM

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but the google doc is available still

solemn rivet Jul 13, 2018, 5:06 PM

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I'll try doing greenpath at least then

young walrus Jul 13, 2018, 5:06 PM

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you'll have to request access to it

solemn rivet Jul 13, 2018, 5:06 PM

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I think I already have access to it

young walrus Jul 13, 2018, 5:06 PM

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do you?

solemn rivet Jul 13, 2018, 5:06 PM

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asked you like 1 year ago

young walrus Jul 13, 2018, 5:06 PM

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i don't remember

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i've given access to like 2 people

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sean had a list of all the actual transition names too

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might be helpful to link those

solemn rivet Jul 13, 2018, 5:07 PM

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doesn't debug tell you those?

young walrus Jul 13, 2018, 5:07 PM

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like list them instead of how i did

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i don't think so

solemn rivet Jul 13, 2018, 5:08 PM

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📎 unknown.png

young walrus Jul 13, 2018, 5:08 PM

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you could also use the format I did if you want to i guess

solemn rivet Jul 13, 2018, 5:09 PM

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will you still have the hard/easy format?

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or go with a more flexible format like sean did with rando2

young walrus Jul 13, 2018, 5:10 PM

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either i guess

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the hard mode traversal options cover any speedrun tech

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so that could be parsed out later into specific skip types

solemn rivet Jul 13, 2018, 5:11 PM

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I assume the movement is all nmg

young walrus Jul 13, 2018, 5:11 PM

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yeah

solemn rivet Jul 13, 2018, 5:11 PM

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ok

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I'll try mapping greenpath and see how that goes

young walrus Jul 13, 2018, 5:11 PM

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kk

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i'd have debug on to make it easier

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and to list room names, etc

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test out skips and shit like that

solemn rivet Jul 13, 2018, 5:12 PM

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yup

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that's my plan

young walrus Jul 13, 2018, 5:12 PM

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kk

solemn rivet Jul 13, 2018, 5:13 PM

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I'm not great with spike tunnel skips tho... So if I ever map an area that has those, I won't map those rooms

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also

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should we include mag skips?

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I really don't want to get to Isma's with only dash+claw+wings

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shivers

young walrus Jul 13, 2018, 5:16 PM

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no

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include only RTA viable things

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if you have questions on shit like that, can just ask i guess

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there's some skips i think i want to remove, even though i could do them, they were tough

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like fireball skip / shriek skip up to salubra

solemn rivet Jul 13, 2018, 5:19 PM

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yeah

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there's also one mag skip which isn't that bad. That is getting to Unn without Isma's

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it's way easier than that acid skip on the archives

flat forum Jul 13, 2018, 6:09 PM

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Sean

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TEO wants you to update debug mod and it's health checking system

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Because there may have been changes to the healths of some enemies and TEO wants to check

copper nacelle Jul 13, 2018, 6:24 PM

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i already did

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:echREE:

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@flat forum https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/327461802311155714/460993179626504202/DebugMod.dll

flat forum Jul 13, 2018, 6:26 PM

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Send it in the wiki if you're there

copper nacelle Jul 13, 2018, 6:26 PM

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gib invite

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nvm in

flat forum Jul 13, 2018, 6:26 PM

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You... haf it in the giant spam message

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I got it from there

copper nacelle Jul 13, 2018, 6:27 PM

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what channel

flat forum Jul 13, 2018, 6:27 PM

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Suggestions

compact sedge Jul 13, 2018, 7:53 PM

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why isn't update on drive

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consider this: modlinks debugmod downloads the one that is built for 1.2, but every mod installer downloads the 1.3 API

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I hope someone else sees the issue there

compact sedge Jul 13, 2018, 9:11 PM

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aaa anyone know why I can't load fsm vectors

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I have the following code:

        private IEnumerator _WaitForSetVelo2DToBeLoaded(SetVelocity2DData inputData)
        {
            // after this much time it will assume the set velocity 2d actually in fact has a magnitude of 0
            // at which point it WILL NOT add it to the list. because: simply put, you can't speed up or slow down
            // a zero vector by any amount.
            float maxWaitTime = 5f;
            while (inputData.cachedVelo2D.vector.Value.magnitude <= epsilon && maxWaitTime > 0.0f)
            {
                maxWaitTime -= Time.deltaTime;
                yield return null;
            }

            if (maxWaitTime <= 0.0f)
            {
                Modding.Logger.LogError("[ModCommon] Unable to add setvelocity2d to CustomEnemySpeed because the velocity is a " +
                                        "zero vector which cannot have its speed modified.");
                yield break;
            }
            
            inputData.SetDefaultMagnitude(inputData.cachedVelo2D.vector.Value);
            speedModifyVelocity2D.Add(inputData);
            if (active && speedModActive)
            {
                _UpdateSingleSetVelocity2D(inputData);
            }
        }

and even though the fsm dump indicates that the vector I am using isn't a zero vector it still says it is.

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inputData.cachedVelo2D is a SetVelocity2D and is never null, or I'd get a null ref.

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omg I found out why

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EWWWWWWWWWWWW

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 \----PFSM ---- SetVelocity2d (vector?.Value) = (0.0, 0.0)
 \----PFSM ---- SetVelocity2d (x) = 12
 \----PFSM ---- SetVelocity2d (y) = 0

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wtf playmaker

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aaaaaa

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am I crazy or is this bad

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why would it have both a settable and gettable vector and x and y as separate floats that are seemingly unrelated

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ok explain this science

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I set the boss to be faster

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and the gameobject dump shows he should be faster

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but he's the same speed

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no but really wtf soul mage

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im dying and idk what to do

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OMG

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eww

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the second the soul guy spawns in it deletes the old game object and makes a new one

compact sedge Jul 13, 2018, 10:17 PM

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hes... just not in the scene dump

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wtf

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help

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here's my code:

            GameObject[] allObjects = UnityEngine.Object.FindObjectsOfType<GameObject>() ;
            foreach(GameObject go in allObjects)
                go.PrintSceneHierarchyTree("dump/scenedump" + dreamPrintNumber + "_" + go.name + ".txt");

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there's NO soul guy

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when his second phase spawns I can find that gameobject

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that one's called "Corpse Dream Mage Lord 1(Clone)"

but this dump isn't giving me the other one

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so uh what am I doing wrong

bitter quarry Jul 13, 2018, 11:08 PM

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is this in the English language

compact sedge Jul 13, 2018, 11:09 PM

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no

hollow pier Jul 13, 2018, 11:10 PM

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aa please stop spamming

compact sedge Jul 13, 2018, 11:12 PM

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ok

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but only if TC

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makes soul tyrant code not shit

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I just wasn't expecting my least favorite dream boss to also be the worst programmed

bitter quarry Jul 13, 2018, 11:16 PM

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i wish i spoke this alien tongue

compact sedge Jul 13, 2018, 11:31 PM

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anyway it's not that I'm spamming more that my shit's broken and all the real modders are offline so idk how to fix it

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literally getting a null ref for code that rider tells me is impossible to be null

rain cedar Jul 13, 2018, 11:32 PM

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Wow thanks I'm not a real modder

compact sedge Jul 13, 2018, 11:32 PM

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you were offline

rain cedar Jul 13, 2018, 11:32 PM

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Never

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 12:17 AM

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ok so the proper speeds get set

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but then they're set back by something

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and im too stupid to figure out what

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I should just make like the benji brothers and play GnG

floral furnace Jul 14, 2018, 12:21 AM

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just open properties, beta then type in "gngwhennever" to download and play the beta of GnG ez

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 12:25 AM

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serious ideas for fixing this would be appreciated

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maybe

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you cannot cache waits for one

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?

halcyon lantern Jul 14, 2018, 2:09 AM

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tfw i was on lightbringer, started grimm dlc after i got dreamnail, got the 6 flames then killed grimm 1st form, sat on a bench, then the game breaks and makes it so i cant get off the bench

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ez

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doesnt matter what bench or what i do, rip me, and rip 3 hours

pale karma Jul 14, 2018, 2:37 AM

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Yea is there a way I could mod the switch version to protect Myla? No? Ok.

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 2:37 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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sorry I had to do it

pale karma Jul 14, 2018, 2:37 AM

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No bully

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Guys I really need a mod for this

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 2:44 AM

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just don't get cdash

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iirc

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there was some Reddit post on it

young walrus Jul 14, 2018, 2:45 AM

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so make a mod for it

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 2:46 AM

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maggot

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 2:49 AM

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switch modding bad

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nsp bad

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release physical when

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xci good

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 2:50 AM

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anyway, happy news y'all. I gave up working on soul jerk until 56 helps me and instead decided to get false knight working and I'm already almost done with him, he works perfect and just needs balance.

solemn rivet Jul 14, 2018, 2:50 AM

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*failed champion

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 2:50 AM

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goddamn it I did it again

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argh

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I must have 0 sanity left at this point

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anyway if you would allow me to I'd like to update CustomEnemySpeed. I made it a lot more versatile

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and I added regions

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 3:06 AM

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submit pr when

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 3:07 AM

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20 seconds was literally writing the commit message

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https://github.com/Kerr1291/ModCommon/pull/5

GitHub

Custom Enemy Speed ABI V2 by natis1 · Pull Request #5 · Kerr1291...

Adds greatly increased versitility by letting the user update the speed of OTHER gameobjects, as well as the speed of a setvelocity2d. Also you can update a custom index if you know what the index ...

rain cedar Jul 14, 2018, 3:08 AM

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Your next project should be making a shop component

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Because it's a pain in the ass

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 3:08 AM

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my next project is lost kin because I'm gonna put off soul master as long as I can lol

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 3:09 AM

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fuck I was too slow

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 3:11 AM

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thanks for the tip on his behavior btw that's gonna save me infinite time

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 3:27 AM

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jesus christ y'all merged that fast

forest meadow Jul 14, 2018, 3:36 AM

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is it possible to mod on switch or nah?

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 3:36 AM

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no

young walrus Jul 14, 2018, 3:36 AM

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you could mod your switch

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like put a hat on it

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or put it on wheels

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 3:37 AM

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put Linux on it

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and then run Hollow Knight from there

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hollowface

hollow pier Jul 14, 2018, 3:38 AM

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give it special privileges

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allow it to purge ban etc

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 3:39 AM

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make its name orange

young walrus Jul 14, 2018, 3:39 AM

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an automatic ice dispenser that keeps it cool

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 3:41 AM

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put a pi in your switch

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you won't be able to run HK but maybe it could run celeste or something.

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 3:42 AM

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celeste is on switch 🤔

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 3:42 AM

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modded celeste tho

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 3:42 AM

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you can load customs

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which is 90% of mods anyway

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 3:42 AM

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HK custom maps when

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also whenever a game is easy to mod. 90% of the mods never touch code.

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or in the case of Skyrim, 99%

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 3:44 AM

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you can't do code mods on switch apparently

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memory is nonexecutable

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 3:44 AM

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same with skyrim and consoles

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and probably for good reason

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 3:44 AM

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well theres no reason on xboxone

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you can run unsigned code on an xbone 🤔

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 3:45 AM

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really? hmm

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how open a platform is the xbone

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 3:45 AM

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https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/uwp/xbox-apps/devkit-activation

Xbox One Developer Mode activation - UWP app developer

How to activate Developer Mode so you can switch between Retail Mode and Developer Mode.

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you can turn any retail xbone into a devkit

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 3:45 AM

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like if it can run any old binary then surely it's like, at least jailbroken IOS levels of open.

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but anyway lol imagine if a skyrim mod required you to do this as the end user

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 3:46 AM

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well theres no reason to prevent arbitrary code execution

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 3:46 AM

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yes there is

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 3:46 AM

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when you can run anything on your xbone

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 3:46 AM

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consider this: activating dev mode is hard

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downloading a random arbitrary dll mod

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is easy

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if you want the process of running unsigned code to be hard

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then you shouldn't allow these kinds of mods

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 3:47 AM

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what are you gonna do

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hack my tendies

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 3:47 AM

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Technically possible but difficult for the average user is kinda Microsoft's thing

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they build their OS and everything else around technically possible but difficult for the average user

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the more difficult while still not being impossible the better

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 3:48 AM

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unless xbox has some userland privelege escalation I doubt anyone can write anything malicious

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and I doubt theres an exploit for that because you'd probably have sigpatching from devmode if there was

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 3:49 AM

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no but my point is this: MS can get away with shitty default settings on their products because people will defend them on PC forums as "oh microsoft loves choice, you can disable or change X on windows or xbone" so long as it's technically possible. Nevermind that it requires downloading a program and running through 30 clicks or running something in cmd or adding 1200 lines to your hosts file.

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 3:50 AM

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i mean its literally just searching for dev mode in the store

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and putting a key in a webpage

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 3:50 AM

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lol you think the average person can read guides

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I wish lol

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 3:50 AM

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like 4 steps if you include making a dev account and opening the store

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 3:50 AM

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people here who actively seek out HK mods and thus consider themselves technically above average can't even read readmes

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so what hope do the other 90% of computer users have

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I mean technically everyone considers themselves above average

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but still

rain cedar Jul 14, 2018, 3:55 AM

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Well half of them are right

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 3:56 AM

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I'd argue 100% of people are above average at something

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 3:56 AM

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above average at being bad

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 3:56 AM

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it's just, being above average at fighting slightly spedup NKG hasn't gotten me any jobs yet.

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still looking tho

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 4:52 AM

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is there an AddGeo thing but for dreams?

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 4:53 AM

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you mean for essence?

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 4:53 AM

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yes

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 4:53 AM

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probably

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as it shows up on the ui

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 4:54 AM

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hollowknice

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 4:54 AM

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i dunno what it is though

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I guess you could check the healthmanager class

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as die should run whatever it is to add essence

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 4:56 AM

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not seeing it in healthmanager

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 4:56 AM

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it was in the fsm

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so it should have been ported zzz

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 4:56 AM

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I can change the geo

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it spawns

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but

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not too much else

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 4:58 AM

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        if (UnityEngine.Random.Range(0, max) == 0)
        {
            this.dreamEssenceCorpseGetPrefab.Spawn(base.transform.position + this.effectOrigin);
            playerData.dreamOrbs++;
            playerData.dreamOrbsSpent--;
            EventRegister.SendEvent("DREAM ORB COLLECT");
        }

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its in EnemyDeathEffects.EmitEssence()

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 4:59 AM

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SendEvent("DREAM ORB COLLECT");

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thanks

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dunno if I need to modify but I'll just see if that works

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 5:00 AM

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sending that event should just make the number + icon show up

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 5:00 AM

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what is dreamOrbsSpent for

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 5:02 AM

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its to make enemies drop essence when you've spent some on dreamgating

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more often that is

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        if (!playerData.hasDreamNail)
        {
            return;
        }
        bool equippedCharm_ = playerData.equippedCharm_30;
        bool flag = playerData.dreamOrbsSpent > 0;
        int max;
        if (equippedCharm_ && flag)
        {
            max = 40;
        }
        else if (equippedCharm_ && !flag)
        {
            max = 200;
        }
        else if (playerData.dreamOrbsSpent <= 0)
        {
            max = 300;
        }
        else
        {
            max = 60;
        }

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 5:03 AM

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what's max for

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also I feel like it's gonna be below 0 most of the time unless ur that one guy who uses dream gate 25 times a day.

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 5:03 AM

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not sure why this isn't like max = (int)((equippedCharm ? 40 : 200) * (playerData.dreamOrbsSpent <= 0 ? 1.5 : 1))

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max is the chance for random to trigger

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1/max

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 5:04 AM

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woah wiki is VERY wrong on this then

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 5:04 AM

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so its 1 in 300 enemies by default

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understandable

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 5:04 AM

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I thought it was 1/200

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poor veru

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 5:05 AM

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also I just realized

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📎 unknown.png

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why is that not just !flag 🤔

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 5:06 AM

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cause tc

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 5:11 AM

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69 septuagintillion iq

halcyon lantern Jul 14, 2018, 5:12 AM

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blackmoth is buggy af

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dashed into an enemy and took damage at the end and got put into a float

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until i took damage again

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 5:12 AM

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tbh I couldn't even tell you if that's a blackmoth bug or a vanilla bug

halcyon lantern Jul 14, 2018, 5:13 AM

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tru

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yeah pretty sure its a blackmoth glitch

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if pressed dash right as i took damage and im put into float

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 5:19 AM

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I can try to fix it but uh no promises

halcyon lantern Jul 14, 2018, 5:19 AM

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nah its alright

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i have to see if thats actually what causes it

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its happened 2 times but still not sure what actually causes the float

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i think its if u try to dash right as u take damage or right after the damage happens

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 5:22 AM

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if it's you taking damage on the frame you start dashing here's my theory

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your cstate is set as invulnerable, but your player has already recieved the "TAKE DAMAGE" thingy

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so you get a weird kind of storage where it can't do the TAKE DAMAGE animation because you're set as invulnerable

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idk

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maybe not but that's possibly what's happening

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maybe it should wait a frame before making your character invulnerable. maybe it should happen earlier in the frame, might just need to do testing to find out.

halcyon lantern Jul 14, 2018, 5:23 AM

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yeah im trying to figure out if its before or after

fair rampart Jul 14, 2018, 5:24 AM

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but its an easy fix ingame
just open and close your inventory

halcyon lantern Jul 14, 2018, 5:24 AM

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it is indeed an easy fix

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but it gets annoying when it happens 3 times in 1 fight

rain cedar Jul 14, 2018, 5:25 AM

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Open inventory midair

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Lifeblood btw

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 5:25 AM

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install QoL

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hollowface

fair rampart Jul 14, 2018, 5:25 AM

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maybe you spam the dash button too much?
longdash helps to reduce hits taken

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@compact sedge a question, why did you add the go through walls charms while dashing?

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 5:27 AM

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it's gradow's mod

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 5:27 AM

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gradow made blackmoth

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tfw too slow

fair rampart Jul 14, 2018, 5:28 AM

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is he in here?

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 5:28 AM

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yeah

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 5:28 AM

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he's pretty busy these days but yeah

fair rampart Jul 14, 2018, 5:30 AM

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@compact sedge sorry got confused since you made redwing

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 5:31 AM

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it's ok. I stole some code from blackmoth for it

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and these days I'm interested in helping fix any blackmoth bugs both because redwing is designed for it and because I just really love that mod.

halcyon lantern Jul 14, 2018, 5:32 AM

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wait im supposed to use redwing with blackmoth

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 5:32 AM

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either or

fair rampart Jul 14, 2018, 5:32 AM

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it works really good with it

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 5:32 AM

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redwing is better with blackmoth installed imo

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 5:33 AM

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originally it was just gonna be an addon but the blackmoth replacement in redwing is pretty alright. But I mean cmon if you wanna be a super overpowered knight why not go the full mile and install both.

rain cedar Jul 14, 2018, 5:33 AM

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Debug mod makes you more op tbh

halcyon lantern Jul 14, 2018, 5:33 AM

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when i installed lightbringer i thought the game would be ez af

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i found that harder than this

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 5:34 AM

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ur not wrong sean

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just keep spamming + until 9k nail damage

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 5:34 AM

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more like

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turn on invin

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and infi soul

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 5:35 AM

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and click the kill enemy button

fair rampart Jul 14, 2018, 5:35 AM

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but blackmoth + lightbringer is broken af

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 5:35 AM

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now imagine those two but also with redwing

fair rampart Jul 14, 2018, 5:35 AM

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hollowwow

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 5:35 AM

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and I mean at that point you basically have to try to die

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so that's why right now I'm making a mod that makes 3 bosses almost infinitely harder.

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 5:36 AM

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soul tyrant meme

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 5:36 AM

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so that there's at least SOMETHING you can do that will challenge you

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right now it's only one boss

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but I could release an alpha I guess for memes

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 5:37 AM

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is that one boss done tho

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 5:37 AM

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I still need to balance how much the speeds change

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but otherwise mostly

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 5:37 AM

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sharing is caring

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hollowface

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also i'll take a look at soul tyrant soon

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 5:37 AM

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ok let me just check that essence gain works and I'll send binary

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and update on git*

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 5:37 AM

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send modcommon while you're at it too imo

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cause you updated that

fair rampart Jul 14, 2018, 5:38 AM

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did you guys see the gods and glory showcase at e3

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 5:38 AM

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yeah

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kdt's boss rush but worse hollowdab

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 5:39 AM

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tbh if this mod I'm currently making is recieved well I have some fun plans for a mod to make GnG even more arcadey as well.

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 5:39 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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📎 unknown.png

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thanks pycharm

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making it colour instead worked

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 5:40 AM

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ok def still need to fix some shit before I send sry 56

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 5:40 AM

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ok

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 5:41 AM

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for one, saving is not working the way it should and idk why

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 5:41 AM

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you've got the modding api bug fix in right?

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 5:41 AM

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no but I fixed THAT bug manually in infinite grimm and this with some hacky code

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 5:41 AM

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i mean do you have the hack in

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 5:43 AM

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no

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 5:43 AM

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isn't that like

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bad

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 5:45 AM

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ok

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so idk which bug we're talking about but the one I'm thinking of is where it will copy your save data between saves

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if you exit out

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 5:45 AM

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yeah

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totally stole that btw

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 5:46 AM

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ok

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why is my level staying 0 and not saving to a save file

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 5:46 AM

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you've sat on a bench?

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 5:47 AM

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I exited to menu after fighting and killing a dream boss

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which prompted the saving data message

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 5:47 AM

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rip

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 5:49 AM

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            global_vars.falseDreamFails = Settings.falseDreamFails;
            global_vars.falseDreamLevel = Settings.falseDreamLevel;
            global_vars.kinDreamFails = Settings.kinDreamFails;
            global_vars.kinDreamLevel = Settings.kinDreamLevel;
            global_vars.soulDreamFails = Settings.soulDreamFails;
            global_vars.soulDreamLevel = Settings.soulDreamLevel;

this code run in ModHooks.Instance.AfterSavegameLoadHook should load it from the save file right?

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 5:51 AM

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yeah but why tho

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 5:51 AM

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ugh maybe I do need a bench

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meme

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idk

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 5:52 AM

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make an instance imo

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and just do ModName.Instance.Settings.blah;

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and/or in your monobehaviour do ModSettings x = Modname.Instance.Settings;

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for less verbosity

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 5:54 AM

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not the worst idea

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would certainly make my code LOOK less shit

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 5:58 AM

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a

📎 Java10FeatureHighlight1-1.png

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 5:59 AM

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I thought arraylists were older

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 5:59 AM

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?

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 6:01 AM

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in java I mean

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not something they just added to 10

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 6:01 AM

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List is the generic which is newer than ArrayList yeah

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the new thing is var

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 6:01 AM

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oh

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so instead of c# copying java it's going the other way

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nice

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ok failed champ health management is disgusting

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 6:04 AM

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yeah he has 2 hp bars

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 6:04 AM

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it has a healthmanager that has 360 health for its first phase, and once that runs out it then transitions to using an FSMint to manage all future health

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that FSMInt, also has 360 health

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 6:04 AM

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excuse me what the fuck

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 6:04 AM

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good code

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also the first head has more hp

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 6:04 AM

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^

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first head is pain

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 6:05 AM

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not the heads themselves

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but the armor

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all 3 have 360 hp

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but the first one is run using a HM and the other 2 are run with this fsm

 \----PFSM StateName: Check
 \----PFSM ---- Transitions for state: Transition on STUN to state Stun
 \----PFSM ---- Actions for state: Actions on Check ::: GetHPEveryFrame
 \----PFSM ---- Actions for state: Actions on Check ::: IntCompare
 \----PFSM ---- IntCompare (Name) = 
 \----PFSM ---- IntCompare (integer1) = 360
 \----PFSM ---- IntCompare (integer2) = 0
 \----PFSM ---- IntCompare (greaterThan) = 
 \----PFSM ---- IntCompare (lessThan) = STUN
 \----PFSM ---- IntCompare (equal) = STUN
 \----PFSM ---- IntCompare (everyFrame) = True

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 6:06 AM

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its probably good code

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 6:06 AM

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the fsm is fine code, the healthmanager is fine code, putting them together this way

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tbh I have a feeling this boss is one of the first ones TC made

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because

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no waits

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all waits are done with animations

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that are empty animations

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 \----PFSM ---- Tk2dPlayAnimation (Name) = 
 \----PFSM ---- Tk2dPlayAnimation (animLibName) = 
 \----PFSM ---- Tk2dPlayAnimation (clipName) = Blank

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on the other hand easier to mod

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but my god poor TC

fair rampart Jul 14, 2018, 6:20 AM

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can anyone tell me how to set binds to unbound in debug mod?

rain cedar Jul 14, 2018, 6:35 AM

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You'll have to clear them in the settings file manually if you want to

keen surge Jul 14, 2018, 6:40 AM

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Hi! I'd like a mod that makes 56 less ultra homo

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Oops this isn't modding help

fair rampart Jul 14, 2018, 6:42 AM

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@rain cedar where is it located?

rain cedar Jul 14, 2018, 6:43 AM

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Save folder

fair rampart Jul 14, 2018, 6:47 AM

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whats the file name?

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 6:49 AM

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debugmod.GlobalConfig.json

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or something like that

fair rampart Jul 14, 2018, 6:54 AM

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got it. it's debugmod.globalsettings.json
thanks a lot

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 7:20 AM

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I can't get my settings to save

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ok how does Settings work

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time to read the example mod

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ok idk what I

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am doing wrong

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 7:33 AM

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it doesnt work

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 7:33 AM

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it worked in infinitegrimm

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what happened

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in the api

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between then (41) and now

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 7:34 AM

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is infgrimm global or persave?

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 7:34 AM

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it does persave score tracking

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 7:34 AM

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afaik global is read only for somereason

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 7:34 AM

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but my settings are uninitialized every time I load the game

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but in infinitegrimm in that version they worked fine

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wait is it because I changed my settings to add new vars that I didn't have before

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and those new vars don't get saved

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ugh I wish I still had the python save extractor

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 7:37 AM

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hksm can save to plaintext

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 7:37 AM

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really

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how

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 7:37 AM

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yes save (switch)

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instead of save

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was added like a few days after switch hk was released

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 7:39 AM

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uh ok

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well

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good because the python one had intentional shittyness in it I had to remove

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and I'm too lazy to do that again right now

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and I just need it extracted

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 7:40 AM

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pretty sure the python one was just a copy of my code 🤔

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 7:40 AM

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but in the future I might redo the unshittifying

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NO STFU

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I mean

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ofc its a copy of your code

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but

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all it does is extract and unextract

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and guess what

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 7:40 AM

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the random exe one by raining chains is somewhere

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 7:40 AM

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YOU COPIED TC CODE TO DO THAT

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so

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 7:40 AM

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no I didn't

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the only thing I copied from tc code is the extraction key

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 7:41 AM

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and other than that everything else is just using your programming language's crypto tools

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so

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 7:41 AM

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nope

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because java doesn't let you use crypto functions over a certain keylength

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because terrorists could use it

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yep you heard me right

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 7:42 AM

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not in python

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not in not-shit languages tbh

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 7:42 AM

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https://stackoverflow.com/questions/25844026/key-length-limit-with-java-cryptography-extension

Stack Overflow

Key length limit with Java Cryptography Extension

I am aware that the keylenght in the Sun/Oracle JVM is limited for judical reasons. However as far as I understood the concept of the JCE (Java Cryptography Extension) is that a user can choose it'...

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 7:42 AM

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so if they copied your code they did more work than they had to

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from Cryptodome.Cipher import AES

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yeah probs not copying your code

#

but that's a shitty library

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 7:43 AM

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also c# has wrong names on their crypto libraries

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and completely wrong functions afaik

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oh it uses RijndaelManaged now

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which actually does use the correct values

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also I know for a fact the python script is based of my code

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because in his reddit post he links to my repo 🤔

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 7:46 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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tbh probably stole ur key

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 7:48 AM

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he has an online one now https://bloodorca.github.io/hollow/

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 7:48 AM

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no

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not uploading my saves to random website

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 7:48 AM

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they gonna steal your savedata

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 7:48 AM

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tbh I wish I had the unshitty version of the python script still

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it took me like 15 mins to make but I forgot exactly what I did

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 7:49 AM

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well its not just a AES cipher

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because its BASE64 too

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and you need c string headers

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but either way I'll have you know I actually had to get AES to work via gnu.crypto which had basically no documentation and took literally forever to do 😠

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 7:55 AM

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didn't it have like

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5 random sleep statements

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 7:55 AM

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well he likes it to feel like its doing stuff

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tbh you could just repurpose my java script to unpack saves real quick

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all you need to do is
SaveLoader.saveSwitchSave(fileDir, SaveLoader.loadSave(fileDir));

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and it'll decrypt saves for you

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 7:58 AM

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neat

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wtf the python one is 10mb

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 7:58 AM

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lol

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bundled libraries and bundled exes

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meme

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 7:58 AM

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it comes packaged with python

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its only 4kb

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 7:59 AM

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this almost works but I think I forgot one small thing

📎 hollow.py

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 8:00 AM

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isn't it just 2 lines

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📎 unknown.png

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:00 AM

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also

    private static byte[] getLength(byte[] input){
        String rawLengthBinary =  Integer.toBinaryString(input.length);
        String reverse = new StringBuffer(rawLengthBinary).reverse().toString();
        System.out.println(reverse.length());
        String[] data = new String[(int) Math.ceil( ((double)reverse.length()) / 7.0f)];
        System.out.println(data.length);
        for( int i = 0; i < data.length-1; i++){
            data[i] = reverse.subSequence(i*7, ((i+1)*7)).toString()+"1";
        }
        data[data.length-1] = reverse.subSequence((data.length-1)*7, reverse.length()).toString();
        byte[] output = new byte[data.length];
        for( int i = 0; i < data.length; i++){
            System.out.println(data[i]);
            output[i] = (byte) Long.parseLong( new StringBuffer(data[i]).reverse().toString(), 2);
        }
        return output;

def getLength(input):
    # lenBin = format(332184, 'b')
    lenBin = format(len(input), 'b')
    lenBinReverse = lenBin[::-1]
    dataLen = math.ceil(len(lenBinReverse) / 7.0)
    data = list(range(dataLen))
    for i in range(dataLen - 1):
        data[i] = lenBinReverse[i*7:(i+1)*7] + "1"
    data[-1] = lenBinReverse[(len(data)-1)*7:len(lenBinReverse)]
    output = list(range(dataLen))
    for i in range(len(output)):
        output[i] = int(data[i][::-1], 2) # doubleCast()
    return bytes(output)

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I aint saying anything but :^)

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 8:01 AM

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wow that's straight copied

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:01 AM

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ok I got it worked

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 8:01 AM

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also he's using camel case in python

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w h y

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:01 AM

#

hollow.py unshittified edition

📎 hollow.py

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:01 AM

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I aint saying he used more than my keys but :^)

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:01 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

the other one used a weird ass crypto library too

#

even though you can just use normal python Crypto

#

also no shebang at the top

#

also the decode didn't even work

#

anyway lots of problems I think I fixed some of them

#

change it to your hollow knight save path it's currently set to mine but the default python thing had it set to the Desktop

#

but unfortunately I can't recommend this. Because it doesn't feel like it's doing anything because it's too fast

#

it should really have a busy loop somewhere in the middle

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 8:05 AM

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yeah make it slower

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:11 AM

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use a more inefficient algorithm

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infact encode and decode to every crypto fuction your library supports

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:14 AM

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anyway literally all this is for is to splice off the end of the savefile

#

but it's really effing hard

#

to get valid json

#

because this one goddamn line

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:14 AM

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thats like half of my code

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:14 AM

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also if I put it in a beautifier idk if it will still work

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:15 AM

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is making the json be read

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:15 AM

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make ur save editor edit modded data

#

and it'd be useful to me right now

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:15 AM

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i mean it decrypts them

#

I could technically put in a tab for modded data but it'd be zzz

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:17 AM

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oh ok I did the cutting correctly

#

but there was a bug in my unshitty python

#

so its still shitty I guess

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 8:18 AM

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:ech:

#

why not just use kdt's tho

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:18 AM

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java slow

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java bad

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 8:18 AM

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aa irl

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:19 AM

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UpperCamelCase BADDER intenseface

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 8:19 AM

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big delet

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:19 AM

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no its because I can't easilly reencode and decode stuff

#

after editing it

#

for one it saves it as user1.dat.switch

#

so that's one more renaming thing I have to do

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:20 AM

#

like I said

#

just make a new program

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 8:20 AM

#

and call kdt's code

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:20 AM

#

I did

#

I made a new program

#

stealing ur code

#

stealing some other guy's code stealing your code

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:20 AM

#

and do
SaveLoader.saveSwitchSave(fileDir, SaveLoader.loadSave(fileDir));

#

that decrypts saves

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:21 AM

#

100% bug free

📎 hollow.py

#

or ur money back

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 8:21 AM

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i want my money back this is in camel case

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:21 AM

#

btw

#

I really fucking hope

#

that this works

#

because fuck moddingapi Settings data

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:22 AM

#

and SaveLoader.saveSave(fileDir, SaveLoader.loadSave(fileDir)); should encrypt

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:22 AM

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I can't add new settings without forcing people to make a new save

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:22 AM

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aslong as my code isn't bad

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:22 AM

#

or I could use existing code that does the same thing

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:22 AM

#

which this code does exist 🤔

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:22 AM

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too lazy to run java

#

python is just ./

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:22 AM

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ur mum is too lazy to run java

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:23 AM

#

java is java -jar file

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:23 AM

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I mean you could just make it drag file onto jar

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 8:23 AM

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#!/bin/bash
java -jar urmumgay.jar

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:23 AM

#

run code

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 8:23 AM

#

real shitpost

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:23 AM

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python is hella gay

#

i've got like 16 seperate installs

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:23 AM

#

the real shitpost would be me doing this after having it working 15 minutes ago

#

lol

#

kdt that's because ur on a shit os

#

that's ur own fault

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:24 AM

#

i've got like 2.7, 3.2, 3.5, 3.6, anaconda on each of those

#

some numpy redist

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 8:24 AM

#

get rid of everything that's not 3.6 and 2.7

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:24 AM

#

then like 2.7 code doesn't even work on 3.x

#

so you write 2.7 code in your sublime text

#

go to double click and find out your path is 3.x

#

and it doesn't work intenseface

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 8:25 AM

#

3.x broke stuff on purpose cause 2.x was bad

#

stop writing in 2.x

#

echprime

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:25 AM

#

no

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 8:25 AM

#

yes

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:25 AM

#

2.x good

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 8:25 AM

#

delet

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:25 AM

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i can do

#

print urMum

#

and it work

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 8:25 AM

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urMum not defined

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:25 AM

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print(urMum) not cool

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 8:25 AM

#

tbh

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:25 AM

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kdt ur problems with python are problems with you

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 8:25 AM

#

swap to haskell

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hollowface

#

no more parens

#

just chain everything

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:26 AM

#

im going to do my next hk project in pascal

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 8:26 AM

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$ and .

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:26 AM

#

motherfucker it still doesn't work

#

seannnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

#

fix ur saving

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 8:26 AM

#

money back pls

#

ty

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:26 AM

#

not the saving thing

#

the goddamn

#

saving thing in moddingapi

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:26 AM

#

thats wyza

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:26 AM

#

wyzaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

#

you really are killing my joy over here

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:28 AM

#

just steal code that was stolen that was stolen that was stolen that was stolen that was stolen that was stolen that was stolen that was stolen that was stolen that was stolen that was stolen that was stolen that was stolen that was stolen that was stolen that was stolen that was stolen that was stolen that was stolen that was stolen that was stolen that was stolen that was stolen that was stolen that was stolen that was stolen that was stolen that was stolen that was stolen that was stolen that was stolen that was stolen and fix modding api

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tbqh

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:28 AM

#

anyway enjoy this meme of almost 1/3rd of a mod since you asked for it 56

📎 dreams.dll

#

📎 ModCommon.dll

#

I'm passing out

#

so ping me if anything other than saves, or 2/3rds of the dream bosses are broken

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 8:29 AM

#

it's just fc right

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:29 AM

#

yes

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 8:29 AM

#

cool

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:29 AM

#

it works until you quit the game

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 8:29 AM

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i like how i still have all the mods installed

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:29 AM

#

and then it doesn't properly save the level ur on

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 8:30 AM

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this folder is good

📎 unknown.png

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:30 AM

#

no shitmothst

#

delet this

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 8:30 AM

#

put it in the installer

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:30 AM

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lol I'd get banned from the drive

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 8:30 AM

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x to doubt

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:30 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/455231776248299520/464312720984899604/shitmothst.dll

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 8:31 AM

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i

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'll try that

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:31 AM

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it's on my git too cuz memes

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 8:31 AM

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nice

rain cedar Jul 14, 2018, 8:31 AM

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You fix it

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:31 AM

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why did it sorta work in infinite grimm

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and not work at all here

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explain urself

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 8:31 AM

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cause you did it wrong here

rain cedar Jul 14, 2018, 8:31 AM

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Idk not my code not my problem

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 8:31 AM

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hollowdab

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:32 AM

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tfw u do it the same way

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 8:32 AM

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use an instance var when

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:32 AM

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I had an instance var

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it didn't work

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so I swapped to copying my infinite grimm code line for line

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 8:34 AM

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uhh

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he died

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:34 AM

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who

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grimm

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 8:34 AM

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fc

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:34 AM

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no duh

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fight him again

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 8:35 AM

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but i was using your 107 save

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:ech:

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:35 AM

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or I can just say it

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he has levels

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he gets harder every level

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if you beat him he goes up a level

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 8:35 AM

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neat

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:35 AM

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if you die 3 times to a level you go down one

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you get essence based on how many levels you have when you win

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 8:36 AM

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do his staggers get slower

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:36 AM

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he doesn't have staggers. that's just his hp bar

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the other ones will tho

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 8:36 AM

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does that get slower tho

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:36 AM

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yes

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his hp bar goes up

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 8:36 AM

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shit

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ruining my spell build

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:37 AM

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also with that guy and that guy only

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his jumps get shorter instead of taller

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the higher the level

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and the jumping physics on that guy is really weird

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his gravity is ~0.4 when he goes up and 3.0 when he falls

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which always made him feel very unnatural to me

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but that's how TC programmed him

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 8:39 AM

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i've gotten no essence

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only 2 kills tho

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:39 AM

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uh

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ur supposed to be at +30 right now

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did u update your modcommon

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 8:40 AM

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yeah

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:40 AM

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so if you put down a dreamgate ur at the same as before

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 8:41 AM

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it doesn't show the ui?

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:echREE:

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:41 AM

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it's supposed to

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press i

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if it doesn't

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 8:41 AM

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more like

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ctrl

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still have 2821

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gonna kill him again

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:41 AM

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maybe I broke something with this code but it works on my pc:

            FsmState meme = falseGuy.LocateMyFSM("FalseyControl").GetState("Dream Return");
            List<FsmStateAction> actions = meme.Actions.ToList();
            actions.Add(new CallMethod()
                {
                    behaviour = GameManager.instance.gameObject.GetComponent<dream_manager>(),
                    methodName = "falseKill",
                    parameters = new FsmVar[0],
                    everyFrame = false
                });
            meme.Actions = actions.ToArray();

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send player.log

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wait

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no

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if the difficulty goes up

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then you should be getting essence

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omg did I not send you the version with the shorter wait

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 8:42 AM

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idk but level 4 seemed harder

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also still have 2821

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:43 AM

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uh just wait 5 seconds before nailing him again and you might get essence

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or maybe

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 8:43 AM

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2l8

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:43 AM

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it can't add it because you do have the one with the shorter wait

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and that is causing it to try to add the essence in a loading screen

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or something

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 8:44 AM

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well level 5 was fun

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:44 AM

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this might fix that but don't try now or you'll lose all your levels

📎 dreams.dll

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 8:44 AM

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i mean it'll take 2 seconds to get them back

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tbh

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:44 AM

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ok

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 8:45 AM

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gonna try a spell build this time

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with quickslash

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cause staggering him every 10 seconds is nice

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still no essence

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@compact sedge is this u


NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
  at dreams.false_dream..ctor (UnityEngine.GameObject falseGuy, Int32 level) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 
  at dreams.dream_manager+<loadFalseDream>d__15.MoveNext () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 
  at UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine.InvokeMoveNext (IEnumerator enumerator, IntPtr returnValueAddress) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0

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📎 output_log.txt

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:56 AM

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oml

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im a meme

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ok

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let me open up rider reql quick

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why tf doesn't it tell you WHERE the goddamn NRE happened

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like line number

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 8:58 AM

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cause dll

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idk

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:58 AM

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should work if pdb is moved with it

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:58 AM

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so to be clear

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u got levels

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 8:58 AM

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wait what

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:58 AM

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hold up

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 8:58 AM

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pdb gives me line numbers

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excuse me

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where were you like

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3 months ago with this info

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:58 AM

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I knew pdb had line numbers

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I didn't know u could just move it in the same folder

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as the dll

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:59 AM

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should do, dunno if hk modding api works with it

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but it works fine for everest

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:59 AM

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gonna go with no for 100 dollars

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but we'll see

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:59 AM

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pretty sure I complained about it before

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can't remember if feature got added or not intenseface

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 9:01 AM

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ok gonna test this r quick

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and if I don't get except u get new binary

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and I get sleep

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 9:01 AM

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same

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cause my alarm to wake up just went off

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zote

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 9:05 AM

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ok it works im going to sleep

📎 dreams.dll

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bye

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 9:05 AM

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gn

rain cedar Jul 14, 2018, 9:18 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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Mixing const and static readonly wtf

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Pick one

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 9:18 AM

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NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
  at dreams.false_dream..ctor (UnityEngine.GameObject falseGuy, Int32 level) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 
  at dreams.dream_manager+<loadFalseDream>d__15.MoveNext () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 
  at UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine.InvokeMoveNext (IEnumerator enumerator, IntPtr returnValueAddress) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0

rain cedar Jul 14, 2018, 9:18 AM

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Too bad

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He's already gone

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 9:18 AM

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yeah ik

rain cedar Jul 14, 2018, 9:19 AM

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static readonly is better than const tbh

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Less prone to issues at least

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Not "better" in that it runs faster, should run marginally worse

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 9:22 AM

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just do find and replace before you build

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and then ctrl+z right after intenseface

rain cedar Jul 14, 2018, 9:22 AM

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Find and replace the const references?

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The compiler already does that

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 9:23 AM

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does it

rain cedar Jul 14, 2018, 9:23 AM

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Yes

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That's the difference between const and static readonly

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Const gets replaced by whatever its value is

leaden hedge Jul 14, 2018, 9:23 AM

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surely that'd break whatever.SOME_CONST

rain cedar Jul 14, 2018, 9:23 AM

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Static readonly is still a reference

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 9:23 AM

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which is why it's bad if you're going to change it

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cause if you have an assembly built with an old version using that constant

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and then that library changes it

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the assembly will still have that old constant

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even w/ the new version

bronze temple Jul 14, 2018, 4:53 PM

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@compact sedge @copper nacelle @leaden hedge making line numbers show up in old versions of Mono requires you to use pdb2mdb, and run mono with the --debug flag... Which is impossible in Unity. Unless you're fine with one of the following:

hunting down addresses of unexported functions with x64dbg on Windows, or gdb on macOS and Linux and then performing black magic with a patched UnityEngine.dll
patching Unity's copy of mono

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Guess which method I had to use in Gungeon

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 5:46 PM

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that's what I assumed

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or not that specifically because I'm not a coder

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but I assumed it wouldn't be easy to do

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Actually I use const whenever possible because it's faster. BUT I use (or should be using) static readonly for vars I want read from other mods. because if I didn't then every time I changed the value it would break those mods. @rain cedar

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because iirc if you read a const var without reflection from another mod, and then change that var on the first mod without rebuilding the second mod, the second mod will still read the old var value

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and that

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is the opposite of the behavior I want

flat forum Jul 14, 2018, 5:52 PM

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"I'm not a coder"

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...

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. . .

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. . .

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. . .

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 5:55 PM

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which reminds me this probably needs to change for the reason I listed above https://github.com/natis1/ModCommon/blob/master/ModCommon/ModCommonSettings.cs#L13

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or maybe not, maybe it's useful for mods to know which version of modcommon they were built against but I can't see how.

ocean hornet Jul 14, 2018, 6:46 PM

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Hey guys! Really I have a really silly question, but... How do I install ModCommon, so I can play Lightbringer?

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 6:46 PM

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YES

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uh

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you download it from the drive

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like where you downloaded lightbringer and modding api. You downloaded those things from the drive right?

ocean hornet Jul 14, 2018, 6:47 PM

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Yes

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 6:48 PM

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modcommon is like lightbringer in that it just goes in the mods folder

ocean hornet Jul 14, 2018, 6:48 PM

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But how do I install it? Same as the other mods, like Randomizer?

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Oh

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Thanks

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I can't seem to find ModCommon on the drive though

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 6:49 PM

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well the mods are organized by creator name

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so that makes it hard to find

ocean hornet Jul 14, 2018, 6:49 PM

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I found this link from github though https://github.com/Kerr1291/ModCommon

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 6:50 PM

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ok so now you know who made it so just look for their name on the drive

ocean hornet Jul 14, 2018, 6:50 PM

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Oh thanks!

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I'm dumb, just found it

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Now, let me see if it will work this time...

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It seems to be working just fine! Thank you @compact sedge

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 6:55 PM

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go to #archived-modding-help in the future. I would have asked you then to go there but I was just happy enough that you actually TRIED to install modcommon.

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and if you're thinking there's no way someone could just ignore the giant text box when you open the game... you'd be amazed.

ocean hornet Jul 14, 2018, 7:05 PM

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Hahaha, yeah

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Sorry, I hadn't noticed the #archived-modding-help chat before

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Next time I will be sure to go there

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 7:26 PM

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wow message actually worked

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yeet

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:30 PM

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hey is there a non-reflection way to get the version of the game?

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 8:33 PM

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i mean there's a const in Constants called GAME_VERSION but you'd have to use reflection to get it cause it's a const

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:33 PM

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ok

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 8:33 PM

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you could try PlayerData.Instance.version

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should work

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:34 PM

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thaks

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 8:34 PM

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yw

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:34 PM

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I don't need it in this instance I think but it's def gonna be useful to have if there's other fsms that are also different between beta and regular, esp with regards to waits and animations

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ok I guess I'll try to fix the saving thing in modding api today but I have 0 knows about how tf unity serialization works

rain cedar Jul 14, 2018, 8:45 PM

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Wtf reflection to get const

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It works like a static member

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You can just get it

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https://github.com/seanpr96/HollowKnight.Modding/blob/master/Assembly-CSharp/ModHooks.cs#L106

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I guess that only works assuming you recompile for the new version

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:46 PM

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if you get consts from a program that is dynamically linked (say a mod) and rebuild the original without rebuiling the program, it will read the wrong number

rain cedar Jul 14, 2018, 8:46 PM

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Which is a safe assumption for API but not for mods

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 8:46 PM

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and that's what I was talking about earlier

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with why I use static readonly instead of const for my version number

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basically all consts are copied into the assembly at compiletime

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 9:52 PM

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@flat forum get dusted

📎 unknown.png

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 10:30 PM

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            if (data.modData.ContainsKey(name))
            {
                data.modData[name] = Settings;
                return;
            }

this code never runs

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ok

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something clearly changed in the modding api or in LB beta 1.3.3.7 because there;s just straight up no more save serialization

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 10:42 PM

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stop using beta ez

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 10:44 PM

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ok well riddle me this batman

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do your levels save in dreamfighter

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since ur on not beta

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like if you quit to the menu does it start you back at level one?

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 10:46 PM

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lemme check

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yeah i'm at level 1

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 10:53 PM

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ok

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it seems like loading is fine but it's not serializing at all

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"suspicious"

📎 unknown.png

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 10:57 PM

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still using light theme

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📎 wokester.png

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 11:03 PM

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oh

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what

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so the first one isn't a valid int but the second is?

        public int kinDreamFails;
        public int settingsVersion { get => GetInt(); set => SetInt(value); }

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I guess it's a fault in my code then

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 11:04 PM

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:ech:

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also the fails thing doesn't work at all

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 11:04 PM

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[INFO]:[SuperDreamFighterDX] - Adding Settings to Save file
[INFO]:[SuperDreamFighterDX] - Adding settings to SuperDreamFighterDX
[INFO]:[SuperDreamFighterDX] - Add success. here's all the intvalues it found
[INFO]:[SuperDreamFighterDX] - Found key settingsVersion with value 1

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 11:04 PM

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i died 8 times to a version and never leveled down

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 11:04 PM

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yeah I know I fixed it in this version I'm working on

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 11:04 PM

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cool

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 11:06 PM

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I have a feeling that saves will work in this version but let me test first

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and if they do

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then I'll send it and start making lost kin

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ok I just gave myself storage

📎 unknown.png

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same way blackmoth guy did

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by dashing right as I got hit

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jk it's unrelated to dashing

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it's probably a redwing bug

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by getting hit too often

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but yeah I didn't realize this but

        public int var;

is NOT valid for save data
but

        public int var { get => GetInt(); set => SetInt(value); }

is valid

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is this common knowledge and I'm just a dungo

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 11:21 PM

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why would the first one be valid tho

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i mean it'll exist but it won't save anything

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 11:32 PM

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yes

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ur right

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but I didn't know that it made a difference

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just because I'm wondering. How would you say

public int var { get => GetInt(); set => SetInt(value); }

without =>

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 11:42 PM

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curly brackets around getint and setint

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 11:43 PM

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ok

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lol

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thought it would be weirder than that

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 11:44 PM

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public int var 
{ 
get 
{ 
return GetInt(); 
}
 set 
{ 
SetInt(value); 
}
}

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indentation on mobile is no

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 11:44 PM

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w/e I get the point

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I really shouldn't be testing this mod with redwing

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I feel like what I consider a fair and balanced speed is gonna be way too fast if you have to actually wait for your shadow dash

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 11:47 PM

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the 3 shockwave combo is

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dēlët

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 11:47 PM

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just down dash

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 11:47 PM

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GWchadMEGATHINK

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 11:47 PM

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tbf this is supposed to go to level 255 which is supposed to be unbeatable for humans

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just like pacman

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 11:48 PM

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someone beat Pacman tho

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 11:48 PM

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and before you say it just because people have gotten to level 255 in pacman doesn't mean it was designed to be possible

tranquil glen Jul 14, 2018, 11:48 PM

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Why doesn't Angle have a modder role yet imo

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 11:48 PM

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idk

tranquil glen Jul 14, 2018, 11:49 PM

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Literally here talking and helping all the time

young walrus Jul 14, 2018, 11:51 PM

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He doesn't like green

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 11:51 PM

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that's so wrong

tranquil glen Jul 14, 2018, 11:51 PM

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Unrelated do you guys know what's up with the out of bounds geometry and why there's a bunch of sloped floors out there despite there being literally zero in bounds sloped floors?

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 11:51 PM

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green's like my favorite color, alongside red and purple and every other color

young walrus Jul 14, 2018, 11:52 PM

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Because they threw shit together and didn't care about oob space?

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 11:52 PM

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well because sloped shit behaves so weirdly in HK

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like the game is clearly not built for it

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so they didn't put any inbounds

tranquil glen Jul 14, 2018, 11:52 PM

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I understand why there's oob geometry, but why would it be sloped

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 11:52 PM

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and OOB they don't care

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what mickely said

tranquil glen Jul 14, 2018, 11:52 PM

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Yeah ok

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 11:53 PM

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cause it's easier than not probably

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 11:53 PM

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and there's several inbound slopes too, well idk if they count

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but like the roof of the FC boss fight

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 11:53 PM

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ceilings

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ree

tranquil glen Jul 14, 2018, 11:53 PM

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Also I guess I lied there's like that one roof somewhere that's sloped I think

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 11:53 PM

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there's def more than one iirc

tranquil glen Jul 14, 2018, 11:53 PM

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Yeah there are a couple places I think

copper nacelle Jul 14, 2018, 11:54 PM

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I tried reversing the gravity on lost kin but the ceiling was sloped so he was shit

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 11:54 PM

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darn that would have been interesting

tranquil glen Jul 14, 2018, 11:54 PM

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I remember someone bringing up how you could slide really fast across them if you tried superdashing on them

compact sedge Jul 14, 2018, 11:55 PM

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I'd believe it

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most of the slopes I'm familiar with you just fall infinitely on

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so your vert velocity skyrockets until it hits maximum but you keep hitting the collider and getting pushed back up

tranquil glen Jul 15, 2018, 12:00 AM

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Oh really? What's max speed? And could we do some SM64 style gain insane speed to clip through stuff or do collisions work properly in this game

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Well

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"properly"

compact sedge Jul 15, 2018, 12:00 AM

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there's a speed cap because the game has jerk

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I guess you could try it with menu drop lol

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and

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collisions probably don't work properly

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like I'm 95% sure

tranquil glen Jul 15, 2018, 12:01 AM

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So if I held menu open while on a slope it's possible I'd eventually fall through?

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That's actually helpful in one spot if so

compact sedge Jul 15, 2018, 12:01 AM

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try it

tranquil glen Jul 15, 2018, 12:01 AM

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I will when im home

compact sedge Jul 15, 2018, 12:01 AM

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anyway they're checked 50 times a second and all walls are infinitely thin

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so

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the main hitbox you have to overcome is the knight itself

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who is about 1.3 units tall or so

tranquil glen Jul 15, 2018, 12:02 AM

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How steep does a slope have to be for it to count as falling?

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Or can it be literally any slope