#archived-modding-development | Hollow Knight | Page 132

compact sedge Jun 30, 2018, 1:34 AM

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sorry it goes as far as you dash normally

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I can record it real quick

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📎 amazing-51.mp4

young walrus Jun 30, 2018, 1:39 AM

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Huh

compact sedge Jun 30, 2018, 1:39 AM

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normal behavior, it literally uses the change in your knight's "tranform" while dashing which is the actual distance that the knight is physically moving

young walrus Jun 30, 2018, 1:40 AM

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Does it do weird things when you dash onto an elevator?

compact sedge Jun 30, 2018, 1:40 AM

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no

young walrus Jun 30, 2018, 1:41 AM

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Hmmmmm

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Can you zoom out and see exactly where it ends?

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If it actually does end?

compact sedge Jun 30, 2018, 1:42 AM

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sure let me install debugmod really quick

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my theory is that it's caused by some really weird and bad collision code

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not from elevators in particular

young walrus Jun 30, 2018, 1:43 AM

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Well the elevators are awful

compact sedge Jun 30, 2018, 1:43 AM

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although maybe

young walrus Jun 30, 2018, 1:43 AM

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All around

compact sedge Jun 30, 2018, 1:43 AM

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actually better than zooming out

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ima log to see how far it's actually going

young walrus Jun 30, 2018, 1:43 AM

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Did you have shade cloak in the second one?

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Imma look again

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Weird

compact sedge Jun 30, 2018, 1:44 AM

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uh technically no but yes

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let's just say yes

young walrus Jun 30, 2018, 1:44 AM

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Had a theory that it's teleporting your hurt box way far away then back to simulate the I frames

compact sedge Jun 30, 2018, 1:45 AM

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no it doesn't actually do that believe it or not

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ok need to walk back to CoT give me a sec

young walrus Jun 30, 2018, 1:45 AM

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But then it'd do that on ground too

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Which it's not

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So

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Weird. If we could stop the movement oob for elevators.....

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That could skip WKs

rain cedar Jun 30, 2018, 1:46 AM

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Chances are it has something to do with the code that bumps you upward when you dash into ledges

compact sedge Jun 30, 2018, 1:46 AM

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yeah that's what I was thinking

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let me check

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ok for comparison the knight moves about 7 units when dashing. it's supposed to be 6.5ish I think but as KDT accurately pointed out dash length will always be slightly above it because really shitty time code

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[INFO]:[Redwing] currentPos is (-0.3, 1.7) and init position is (-0.3, 1.7)
[INFO]:[Redwing] void knight moved 0 units total
[INFO]:[Redwing] currentPos is (0.3, 1.7) and init position is (-0.3, 1.7)
[INFO]:[Redwing] void knight moved 0.5600014 units total
[a few more 0.5ish unit timesteps cutout...]
[INFO]:[Redwing] currentPos is (1.9, 1.7) and init position is (1.4, 1.7)
[INFO]:[Redwing] void knight moved 2.240005 units total
[INFO]:[Redwing] currentPos is (1.9, 1.7) and init position is (1.9, 1.7)
[INFO]:[Redwing] void knight moved 2.240005 units total
[INFO]:[Redwing] currentPos is (2.5, 1.7) and init position is (1.9, 1.7)
[INFO]:[Redwing] void knight moved 2.800017 units total
[INFO]:[Redwing] currentPos is (38.0, 20.4) and init position is (2.5, 1.7)
[INFO]:[Redwing] void knight moved 42.9509 units total
[INFO]:[Redwing] currentPos is (38.0, 20.4) and init position is (38.0, 20.4)
[INFO]:[Redwing] void knight moved 42.9509 units total
[INFO]:[Redwing] currentPos is (38.6, 20.4) and init position is (38.0, 20.4)
[INFO]:[Redwing] void knight moved 43.51091 units total

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so uh for one my method runs faster than the game does its physics calculation

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so sometimes the knight won't move at all in between timesteps

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but

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here's what's interesting. The knight transform got moved very far to the right and very high in the air

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this being off the dirtmouth elevator dashing to the right

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and more interesting

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it kept its trasnform

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until the end of the dash

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and guess what, it still has that crazy transform

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so how is the knight still in bounds

rain cedar Jun 30, 2018, 1:55 AM

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Maybe some shenanigans with local pos

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Does the knight have a parent object?

compact sedge Jun 30, 2018, 1:55 AM

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nope

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now here's where the shenanigans gets even more crazy

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stepping on an elevator, and only doing that, resets the position to something normal

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but when you dash over an elevator, you avoid stepping on it and keep your weird transform

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or do you actually I'm not quite sure

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omg no I figured it out I was actually wrong it's nothing to do with ledges and everything to do with what seanpr said

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and

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also

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that's how elevator storage works

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when you step on an elevator, you become a child to that elevator

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and you lose it on stepping off

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so your position goes crazy as a result

leaden hedge Jun 30, 2018, 1:57 AM

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good code

compact sedge Jun 30, 2018, 1:57 AM

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and that's why

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you can hit an elevator and ride up

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while off the elevator with elevator storage

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ok

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does transform.position always give me absolute position?

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with respect to the scene

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?

rain cedar Jun 30, 2018, 1:58 AM

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I don't think so

compact sedge Jun 30, 2018, 1:59 AM

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well at least I found a speedrunning trick the hard way

leaden hedge Jun 30, 2018, 1:59 AM

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transform.position should be worldPos

compact sedge Jun 30, 2018, 1:59 AM

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ok

leaden hedge Jun 30, 2018, 1:59 AM

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localPosition is relative to parent

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afaik

compact sedge Jun 30, 2018, 1:59 AM

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I was using localPosition and I thought it didn't matter because the knight had no parents

young walrus Jun 30, 2018, 1:59 AM

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This is where a tas tool would be sick to see if we can use that crazy position and go there

compact sedge Jun 30, 2018, 1:59 AM

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but

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im a meme

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and apparently elevator parents

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this game still confuses me

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ok it works thanks that's one of my most major bugs gone

compact sedge Jun 30, 2018, 4:52 AM

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I should make all the jellyfish in fog canyon say "monomod" when dreamnailed

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hey I bet y'all have never heard that one before

rain cedar Jun 30, 2018, 4:55 AM

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haha monomon

compact sedge Jun 30, 2018, 4:57 AM

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fuck steam crashed

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whenever steam crashes I have to quit my game because the game will freeze on trying to save

compact sedge Jun 30, 2018, 6:07 AM

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ok so uh I need a really hacky solution to the very major problem of THK not having a hitbox like at all

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should I just slap on a BoxCollider2D to him and call it a day?

rain cedar Jun 30, 2018, 6:09 AM

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There's gotta be something there already for hit/damage detection

compact sedge Jun 30, 2018, 6:09 AM

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yes but not a BoxCollider2D which is what I'm using for literally every other enemy

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well all but 4 which also for some reason lack hitboxes

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but they don't matter enough and I really wanna ship this thing

rain cedar Jun 30, 2018, 6:10 AM

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Are they using a polygon collider for him?

compact sedge Jun 30, 2018, 6:11 AM

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no regular unity collider at all or it would work with my thing

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I'm just using normal unity collision

rain cedar Jun 30, 2018, 6:11 AM

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Weird

compact sedge Jun 30, 2018, 6:11 AM

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here's what's on him:

\--Component: MeshRenderer
              \--Component: MeshFilter
              \--Component: tk2dSprite
              \--Component: Rigidbody2D
              \--Component: tk2dSpriteAnimator
              \--Component: PlayMakerFixedUpdate
              \--Component: SpriteFlash
              \--Component: PlayMakerFSM
              \--Component: PlayMakerFSM
              \--Component: InfectedEnemyEffects
              \--Component: EnemyDeathEffects
              \--Component: HealthManager
              \--Component: ExtraDamageable
              \--Component: DamageHero

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literally the same as the fool eater in this case

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well not literally the same

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but the same behavior

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I'ma look into if ExtraDamageable is a thing I can use

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but if not I'm so willing to make a redwing_hacky_workarounds class

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that literally adds a collider to thk

rain cedar Jun 30, 2018, 6:14 AM

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Maybe his collider is added some time after load by an FSM

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There's just no way that fight would work with no colliders

compact sedge Jun 30, 2018, 6:14 AM

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...maybe but here's the facts. if THK has a standard collider at all it should work with my stuff

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and by standard I mean UNITY collider

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not like a special weird playmaker or custom coded collider

rain cedar Jun 30, 2018, 6:15 AM

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I doubt they made their own custom collider

compact sedge Jun 30, 2018, 6:15 AM

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what if playmaker did

rain cedar Jun 30, 2018, 6:15 AM

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Also doubt it but maybe

compact sedge Jun 30, 2018, 6:16 AM

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oh crap I know why this is happening and I have no idea how to fix this

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the colliders are on the children of THK

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I bet the fool eater is the same way

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so here's the issue the children have the correct layer and all that

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but no healthmanager

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so I just need to check if healthmanager is null or something and then get component in their parents

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except

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I need the component in the parent twice removed

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for thk

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Also now this modcommon function has become more than useless, but actually counterproductive otherCollider.gameObject.IsGameEnemy()

rain cedar Jun 30, 2018, 6:19 AM

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Should be pretty easy to make a recursive parent component finder

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T GetComponentInParent<T>(GameObject obj, int maxRecursion = 5, int currentRecursion = 0) : where T : Component
{
    if (currentRecursion > maxRecursion) return null;
    T component = obj.GetComponent<T>();
    if (component != null) return component;
    if (obj.transform.parent == null) return null;
    return GetComponentInParent<T>(obj.transform.parent, maxRecursion, currentRecursion + 1);
}```
I just wrote this in notepad++ so idk if it works

compact sedge Jun 30, 2018, 6:24 AM

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private static HealthManager getHealthManagerRecursive(GameObject target)
        {
            HealthManager targetHP = null;
            while (target != null && targetHP == null)
            {
                targetHP = target.GetComponent<HealthManager>();
                target = target.transform.parent.gameObject;
            }
            return targetHP;
        }
``` this is the crappy thing I wrote lul

rain cedar Jun 30, 2018, 6:25 AM

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Oh right transform.parent is another transform

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Mine won't work without at least that being changed

compact sedge Jun 30, 2018, 6:25 AM

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idk if mine would work either tbh

rain cedar Jun 30, 2018, 6:26 AM

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Not sure if it's possible to have recursive parenting

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Or why you'd even want that

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But yours will break if that's a thing

compact sedge Jun 30, 2018, 6:26 AM

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I don't think that's in the game
Boss Control\Hollow Knight Boss\Colliders\Head

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I hope not

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I could add an iterator

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        private static HealthManager getHealthManagerRecursive(GameObject target)
        {
            HealthManager targetHP = null;
            int i = 30;
            while (target != null && targetHP == null && i > 0)
            {
                targetHP = target.GetComponent<HealthManager>();
                target = target.transform.parent.gameObject;
                i--;
            }
            return targetHP;
        }```

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ok

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that should't break then

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I hope

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I'll log i to see how long it takes I guess

rain cedar Jun 30, 2018, 6:29 AM

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Should be fine, it's only going a couple parents up

compact sedge Jun 30, 2018, 6:29 AM

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yes

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it works

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i is 27 which tells me it went up 2 steps

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cuz im a bad coder

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tbh

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I'm so glad the me from 18 hours ago decided to rewrite and simplify my damage enemies function

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thanks for the help

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ima wait until tomorrow to release it but now there's only one known redwing bug and it's so small it might as well not exist

rain cedar Jun 30, 2018, 6:33 AM

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Cool

compact sedge Jun 30, 2018, 6:36 AM

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well I shouldn't lie: there's actually 2. both graphical, both only apply to a very small section of the game. but one of them I intend on fixing in CP1 and one of them is so tiny I bet nobody will even find it

rain cedar Jun 30, 2018, 6:37 AM

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What does CP1 mean other than content pack 1 (Hidden Dreams)?

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Because that makes no sense

compact sedge Jun 30, 2018, 6:37 AM

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it means redwing content pack 1

rain cedar Jun 30, 2018, 6:37 AM

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Wow fancy

compact sedge Jun 30, 2018, 6:38 AM

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Codename: radiation conjurer for obvious reasons

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it will bring in bug fixes, possibly effects on spells, and lore

rain cedar Jun 30, 2018, 6:39 AM

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Can't wait for the in depth lore explanation videos

compact sedge Jun 30, 2018, 6:39 AM

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between then and now I also wanna do one patch, which will make hardmode harder and fix any bugs people find in the meantime

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my only deadline is pre GnG. if I release after GnG then my "early 2018" joke will be more sad than funny

copper nacelle Jun 30, 2018, 6:43 AM

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gng please release tomorrow thanks

floral furnace Jun 30, 2018, 6:43 AM

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If TC's estimate is true then dont worry Angle you still have like 5 months left to work on it

copper nacelle Jun 30, 2018, 6:43 AM

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more like

compact sedge Jun 30, 2018, 6:43 AM

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heh

copper nacelle Jun 30, 2018, 6:43 AM

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delayed again

compact sedge Jun 30, 2018, 6:43 AM

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wait

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if I release it on june 30th

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it's like the latest possible "early 2018"

copper nacelle Jun 30, 2018, 6:44 AM

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wrong

floral furnace Jun 30, 2018, 6:44 AM

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mid 2018

copper nacelle Jun 30, 2018, 6:44 AM

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before noon July 1st

compact sedge Jun 30, 2018, 6:44 AM

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well not by their standards

trim totem Jun 30, 2018, 6:44 AM

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tc confirmed it is december 20

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it is in the lore

compact sedge Jun 30, 2018, 6:44 AM

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look I'm 8 hours behind

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so if I release tomorrow it will be July 1st in australia

floral furnace Jun 30, 2018, 6:44 AM

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The flow of time in Australia is convoluted

trim totem Jun 30, 2018, 6:44 AM

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december 20th is early 2018 in australia

rain cedar Jun 30, 2018, 6:51 AM

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Wtf dnspy

📎 unknown.png

tidal marsh Jun 30, 2018, 11:11 AM

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There's a modding community for this game!?

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Aw hell ye boi

steep sail Jun 30, 2018, 11:12 AM

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You can go to #archived-modding-help

compact sedge Jun 30, 2018, 5:56 PM

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hey can someone who runs the modding api change the version to 44?

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there's some stuff that got changed in the hooks

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DashPressedHook got changed to a bool

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I need to wait for the modding api version number change to release redwing because otherwise it will break with people running modding api 43, the old 43 that is.

copper nacelle Jun 30, 2018, 6:00 PM

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check for the hook with reflection

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wait

compact sedge Jun 30, 2018, 6:00 PM

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no that's dumb

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and ur a meme

copper nacelle Jun 30, 2018, 6:01 PM

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MethodInfo.ReturnType

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ur a meme

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no assets

compact sedge Jun 30, 2018, 6:01 PM

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no it's really memey to use reflection to ensure they have the right modding api

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oh lol the modding api zip needs to be rebuilt anyway

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Hey before I accidentally break everything can someone confirm that this modding API I built works 100% on more than just my own computer? https://drive.google.com/open?id=1GMsLO1z7U6XiDJchM2sGDx911XTOpFbZ

Google Docs

[1.3.1.5] Modding API [Universal].zip

compact sedge Jun 30, 2018, 6:58 PM

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or at least that it launches and all the vanilla stuff still mostly works

flat forum Jun 30, 2018, 7:09 PM

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56

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new LostLord when?

copper nacelle Jun 30, 2018, 7:35 PM

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idk i'm in new york

flat forum Jun 30, 2018, 7:43 PM

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new york?

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what

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are you doing in new york?

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don't you dare not enjoy your time

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and if I catch you feeling down it'll be your demise

compact sedge Jun 30, 2018, 7:44 PM

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doesn't 56 live in new york?

hollow pier Jun 30, 2018, 7:44 PM

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i thought 56 was an ai placed in a remote location

compact sedge Jun 30, 2018, 7:44 PM

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it might be

compact sedge Jun 30, 2018, 8:27 PM

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ok ima play through the game on steel soul and if nobody finds any problems with that modding api by the time I'm done I'm gonna assume it works perfectly

leaden hedge Jun 30, 2018, 8:31 PM

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unless you confirm it works on debianOS you can't share that potentially faulty api

compact sedge Jun 30, 2018, 8:31 PM

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that's the one OS I can confirm it works on :P

leaden hedge Jun 30, 2018, 8:31 PM

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tbh someone should make a mod that unit tests the api

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just forces every hook with a bunch of inputs and checks the output

compact sedge Jun 30, 2018, 8:32 PM

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but the purpose of updating the modding api is to change/improve the modding hooks

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it would fail on the DashVectorPressed test and the DashPressedHook one too

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I'm more interested that this assembly works on windows

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since I can't test it on windows

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I wanna update the modlinks to use this binary but I don't want to if it has any problems at all on other OSes

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because this binary is new and up to date
because splitting the modding api into mac, linux, and windows versions probably isn't needed anymroe

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oh and 3) because I need this new API for redwing

rain cedar Jul 1, 2018, 1:03 AM

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Obviously only microsoft systems can handle high res textures

📎 unknown.png

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 1:06 AM

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no not all MS systems

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just the xbox 360

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the xbox 1 is like, 359 worse

rain cedar Jul 1, 2018, 1:06 AM

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This is an enum from XNA

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So that wasn't a thing

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 1:07 AM

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but like... what game even uses xna

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even celeste uses the foss clone of it

rain cedar Jul 1, 2018, 1:07 AM

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Salt & Sanctuary

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 1:08 AM

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ree they're not using monogame

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sorry

rain cedar Jul 1, 2018, 1:08 AM

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I don't really know the differences tbh

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It could very well be MonoGame

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All I know is that MonoGame is newer

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 1:08 AM

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maybe so. monogame is a clone of xna 4 and it's open source

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and it's actively developed

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xna is a dead engine that is closed source

rain cedar Jul 1, 2018, 1:09 AM

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I meant functional differences

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 1:09 AM

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for example I think Owlboy is using xna because they started development really really long ago

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oh none

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it's a clone

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but

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I guess it runs better

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and it is designed to work on more OSes

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like the PS4 for example

rain cedar Jul 1, 2018, 1:10 AM

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It's probably monogame then since it's on PS4 and vita

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 1:11 AM

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probably. I'm surprised they wouldn't update that line description though

fair rampart Jul 1, 2018, 1:33 AM

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so like what are the odds of, if not now then ever, of being able to alter the knights appearance even if it's via a charm? (read: can we play as the tiny version of the hollow knight at some point?)

rain cedar Jul 1, 2018, 1:34 AM

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That's possible

hazy sentinel Jul 1, 2018, 1:34 AM

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ScaleMod hollowomg

fair rampart Jul 1, 2018, 1:35 AM

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im modding retarded so i need a lot of hand holding. i have the mod installer and use lightbringer and sometimes turn on the health bars but aside from that i have no idea what im doing or what most of the mods do.

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what IS scale mod.

rain cedar Jul 1, 2018, 1:35 AM

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It changes your scale

fair rampart Jul 1, 2018, 1:36 AM

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kinda like the shell charm making you 25% smaller in lightbringer?

rain cedar Jul 1, 2018, 1:36 AM

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Sounds similar

fair rampart Jul 1, 2018, 1:36 AM

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coolcool

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i also am not sure if i had instigated some confusion with my original statement--- the protagonist-sized hollow knight from the scene when you're obtaining the void heart is what i was referencing.

rain cedar Jul 1, 2018, 1:38 AM

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But you play the same dude in that sequence

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So...

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Done

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I made the mod

fair rampart Jul 1, 2018, 1:38 AM

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dungo

hazy sentinel Jul 1, 2018, 1:38 AM

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if you're saying you want to resprite player character to young THK that's way too much work

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don't have enough sprites to replace all animations and you'd probably have to replace them manually

fair rampart Jul 1, 2018, 1:39 AM

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that was why i asked if it was possible or if it would be in the future. modding of certain games become easier overtime and was not sure how it worked for this one.

hazy sentinel Jul 1, 2018, 1:39 AM

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you'd probably need to hand draw thousands of sprites to do that

solemn rivet Jul 1, 2018, 1:39 AM

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well

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^

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that

fair rampart Jul 1, 2018, 1:39 AM

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ah then that's a bit much. thanks for the answer.

solemn rivet Jul 1, 2018, 1:40 AM

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that is actually the hardest part tbh

fair rampart Jul 1, 2018, 1:40 AM

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im not doubting someone will be willing to do resprites in the future but from the sounds of it even if one was to do so it would be absolutely frustrating to wade through it all.

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either way thanks again. i always tend to get good help when i come here. love the community for this game.

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 1:42 AM

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well if you're respriting one enemy you could use a tool like asprite or something to make animation easier

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but this isn't something that will ever get easier over time I don't think. the bulk of the work is in the art itself

fair rampart Jul 1, 2018, 1:44 AM

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that makes sense. thats also why i asked or suggested altering the visuals via a charm as some can have an effect overlay like the glass soul making you flicker and the defenders crest giving you the cloud.

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 1:45 AM

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kdt may or may not at some point been working on splitting the knight into various chunks that you could recolor separately

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outside of that you can change the color of the knight as a whole

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and the code for that is pretty easy

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and color includes opacity

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so you can make the knight flicker

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or if you're clever you could have the knight be semi-transparent and draw something directly behind it

fair rampart Jul 1, 2018, 1:47 AM

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id like to dabble but like most modding its almost always going to involve some sort of coding and i just absolutely dont know anything about that quite yet. which is why im more or less stuck with asking questions for the time being.

rain cedar Jul 1, 2018, 1:48 AM

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If you pull your weight in some other way (art), people might be willing to do the code part instead of you

fair rampart Jul 1, 2018, 1:49 AM

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ooh. that makes sense. team effort. i like that idea.

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 1:59 AM

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Hey y'all. Happy to announce that Redwing is officially out and on the Google Drive, as well as in the mod installer.

hazy sentinel Jul 1, 2018, 2:00 AM

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it be ya own nibbas

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compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 2:00 AM

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It's the exact opposite of the kind of mod I'd have made if I made it only by asking speedrunners for suggestions, but nevertheless I'm still very happy with the results.

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veru it's because I can't embed images in the google drive readme

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the zip has a real readme

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Now the question is... how many days did I beat the launch of GnG by

rain cedar Jul 1, 2018, 2:12 AM

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6

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 2:16 AM

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beta api dll version 44 for those who don't want to downgrade. Built for 1.3.3.7

I play and mod HK on the beta branch and haven't run into any bugs from using this version yet but no promises that it's as stable as the non-beta version.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/455231776248299520/462804221234905109/Assembly-CSharp.dll

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hey sean can you do me a favor and update in the source code (the binaries are already good) the modding api to say version 44 instead of 43?

rain cedar Jul 1, 2018, 2:26 AM

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Alright

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 1:21 PM

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wow unity 420 iq outsmarted me

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the unscaledDeltaTime apparently isn't used to calculate the deltaTime

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 2:07 PM

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https://gfycat.com/RectangularFatAlpinegoat

Gfycat

goodgem

▶ Play video

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wait a sec

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primal aspids are even better

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https://gfycat.com/ImmenseShrillDartfrog cornywoke

Gfycat

primalaspid2

▶ Play video

exotic venture Jul 1, 2018, 2:14 PM

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wait how's nosk

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or those mawleks

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 2:15 PM

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don't think I have any mawleks alive

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I don't have nosk alive

exotic venture Jul 1, 2018, 2:15 PM

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mawleks in ancient basin respawn i thought

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like, on the road towards lost kin

steep sail Jul 1, 2018, 2:18 PM

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debug mod?

don't think I have any mawleks alive
I don't have nosk alive
````KDT - 01-07-2018 17:15 | #modding`

exotic venture Jul 1, 2018, 2:18 PM

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zote

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 4:26 PM

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idk what mod this is for kdt but wow

copper nacelle Jul 1, 2018, 4:28 PM

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tas

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 4:30 PM

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oh right lol

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 4:30 PM

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Load Cheat Engine and Hollow Knight [Current Patch]
Open Process... Select Hollow Knight
Middle Left there is "Memory View" click it to open a new window
Press Ctrl+G
Go to "hollow_knight.exe+3DEAA9"
There should be an instruction that says "movss [esi+68],xmm0"
Right click the instruction > Find out what Address this instruction accesses
Double Click on the only item in the list in the new window that opened
Select Stop on this window and close it
Right click the instruction > Replace with code that does nothing
Then just set the value to whatever in the address list

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here you go

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"mod"

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hollow_knight.exe+3DE97C is for unscaledDeltaTime

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 4:31 PM

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lol ok

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well time confuses me

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 4:35 PM

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this is way better anyway

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https://gfycat.com/ValuableJubilantKittiwake

Gfycat

2018-07-01 16-04-19

▶ Play video

supple sigil Jul 1, 2018, 4:35 PM

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hmmmm

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 4:40 PM

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nice to see u workn on nightmare god grimm again

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so this is just from it running the unscaledDeltaTime functions way more times than it should? or is it from unscaledDeltaTime always reporting a value of 0, infinity, or some other number?

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 4:41 PM

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its the deltaTime reporting a time of 2

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usually at 120fps it reports 0.00065

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 4:41 PM

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is that other number the actual time that passed

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 4:41 PM

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yeah

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 4:43 PM

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so what controls the animation speeds then?

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 4:43 PM

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deltaTime

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 4:43 PM

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no but cuz like those balls and stuff were moving normal speed

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 4:43 PM

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oh the actual speed

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fixedDeltaTime

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 4:43 PM

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and I'm not quite sure if that means that at low fps grimm is objectively harder

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oh

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 4:44 PM

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its basically saying if the game lagged so it only ran one frame every 2 seconds

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this is what it'd look like

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if speed up to 60fps

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 4:44 PM

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not really, because if the game ran one fram every 2 seconds it would run 100 fixed time updates in between both frames, right?

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 4:44 PM

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depends

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fixedupdate gets called when the mainloop has free time

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which it probably doesn't if its lagging to one frame every 2 seconds

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afaik fixedupdate only gets ran at the beginning of update

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 4:46 PM

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So it's impossible to make a TAS that's both consistent and perfectly matches real world behavior then

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 4:46 PM

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and will do X updates to match how many it should have done

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 4:46 PM

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but it's ok, because TASes are like 80% theater anyway

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 4:46 PM

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so at low fps it skips them and does them all at once, and at high fps its no different

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It's worth noting that if the game is running at a slow frame rate, there will be numerous physics updates between each visible frame render. Conversely, if the game is running at a very high frame rate, there may be no physics steps at all between some of the frame renders, because the time elapsed since the last rendered frame has not yet exceeded the time period of a single physics step.

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I think it may be possible to fix that though tbh

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by having a var say how many fixed updates it should do on this frame

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 4:48 PM

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yeah that might not match 100% real world behavior but it would make the TAS at least look realistic

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 4:48 PM

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or actually

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I can probably nop the function that sets the total time elapsed

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and increment it by the custom deltaTime

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 4:49 PM

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that's good and not the worst idea but don't do that

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 4:49 PM

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it wouldn't visually match if it lagged

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 4:49 PM

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because floats get inaccurate to the point where it matters after like 20 minutes or so

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 4:49 PM

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but it should emulate the same mechanics

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 4:50 PM

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you probably want to track the total amount of time that passes but do so in a way that your floats aren't exceeding like 50 seconds or so. or use doubles.

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 4:50 PM

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doubles and floats are aids in asm

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 4:50 PM

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you're writing this in ASM?!?!!

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 4:50 PM

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yes

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 4:50 PM

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...why?

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 4:50 PM

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I need to replace internal unity features

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theres no way to override Unities Time.deltaTime afaik

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or the fixedDeltaTime

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 4:51 PM

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what if you removed those functions from the unity DLL and then rewrote them or something?

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 4:52 PM

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I believe the engine does physics and collision based on its internal variables

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so Id have to completely rewrite that

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 4:52 PM

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what's the backend for unity?

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c++?

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or some other compiled language?

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 4:52 PM

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c++ > mono > code

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its like an onion

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but I know more about asm than I do about hacking c++ exes

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to load arbitrary code

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 4:53 PM

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what can't you use LD_PRELOAD?

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LD_PRELOAD="mybinary" ./hollow_knight

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LD_PRELOAD
              A list of additional, user-specified, ELF shared objects to be loaded before all others.  The items  of
              the  list  can be separated by spaces or colons.  This can be used to selectively override functions in
              other shared objects.  The objects are searched for using the rules given under DESCRIPTION.```

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This can be used to selectively override functions in other shared objects.

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 4:55 PM

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what am I going to override

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 4:55 PM

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deltaTime?

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the internal one

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 4:55 PM

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who knows where or how thats implemented in c++

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 4:55 PM

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it doesn't matter, if you find the function in ASM you can override that

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by using the asm name

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 4:57 PM

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I have no idea where to start on LD_PRELOAD

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apparently I need to know the class name and function prototype

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I don't think it'll even be a function it'll probably be a field

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 4:58 PM

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well for one I think it's only for hooking external function calls IIRC

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so what you can do is hook on its external call to glibc or whatever where it gets the system time or something. and access whatever memory it has as that point or run the original function.

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 5:00 PM

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its

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winmm.GetTime

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https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/desktop/api/timeapi/nf-timeapi-timegettime intenseface

timeGetTime function

The timeGetTime function retrieves the system time, in milliseconds. The system time is the time elapsed since Windows was started.

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this

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well on windows anyway

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 5:01 PM

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actually let me try to write a testcase because I'm on the OS where this kind of stuff is actually a lot easier

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so uh what do you use to dump the assembly

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 5:01 PM

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I'm not

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I'm just editing the memory as it runs

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 5:02 PM

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ok well let me install ltrace and see what I can do

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 5:02 PM

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also doing it this way will probably still require some asm somewhere

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as I doubt this will fix the fixedDeltaTime anim/movement stuff

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actually it might

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I guess I'd have to see

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 5:04 PM

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alright I'm just gonna make a very simple override and use gdb or something to view what memory I can access

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directly in code

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truth be told I've never tried this but I heard about it and I wanna see how feasable it is

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 5:04 PM

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I know it updates the right amount if you replace the system time

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as thats how CE speedhack works

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and it updates the right amount

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but it might still have sync issues

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 5:05 PM

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ugh I wish I didn't have to run steam to do this

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right now wishing I had a gog binary

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 5:05 PM

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if it starts on like half way through a fixed update cycle

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so the frames that would have a fixedupdate or 2 instead of none or 1

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being able to directly say THIS FRAME WILL HAVE 3 FIXED UPDATES

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will be probably the only way to get it to sync

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 5:14 PM

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on linux it's calling gettimeofday from <sys/time.h>

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 5:14 PM

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but tbh once this is done all I have to do is figure out loading being random and prng I hope anyway

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besides you know playing inputs back from a file

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 5:28 PM

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aaaaaaaaaa

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ok

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the steam drm is getting in my way

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fuck

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but I don't wanna buy the game again on gog

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ughhhh

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well it works but I'm a big meme and I called my function recursively

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which caused a segfault

copper nacelle Jul 1, 2018, 5:40 PM

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i did that for the language hook

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crashed the game

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 5:40 PM

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aha it worked now to figure out why it's returning weird values

copper nacelle Jul 1, 2018, 5:40 PM

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would recommend

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 5:41 PM

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#include <dlfcn.h>
#include <stdio.h>
#include <sys/time.h>
#include <iostream>

typedef int (*orig_gettimeofday)(struct timeval *tv, struct timezone *tz);

int gettimeofday(struct timeval *tv, struct timezone *tz) {

    orig_gettimeofday origFunction = (orig_gettimeofday) dlsym(RTLD_NEXT, "gettimeofday");

    int memeTime = (int)orig_gettimeofday(tv, tz);
    std::cout << "the int returned by gtod is " << memeTime << " and tv_usec is " << tv->tv_usec;

    return memeTime;
}

here's my current code which doesn't actually work

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well it works

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but it's returning weird shit

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ArgumentOutOfRangeException: Value 5940458702234077184 is outside the valid range [0,3155378975999999999].
Parameter name: ticks
  at System.DateTime..ctor (Int64 ticks) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
  at System.DateTime.get_Now () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
  at UnityEngine.GUI..cctor () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
Rethrow as TypeInitializationException: An exception was thrown by the type initializer for UnityEngine.GUI
  at OnScreenDebugInfo+<Start>c__Iterator0.MoveNext () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
  at UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine.InvokeMoveNext (IEnumerator enumerator, IntPtr returnValueAddress) [0x00000] in <filena$

in player.log

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 5:41 PM

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good code

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 5:42 PM

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also cout doesn't print to the terminal for some reason

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ok so uh unity discards cout

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and cerr

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what should I do to log stuff

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 5:57 PM

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write to a file maybe

copper nacelle Jul 1, 2018, 6:03 PM

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^

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 6:04 PM

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YESSSSSSS

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it works

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 6:05 PM

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ok now figure out what calls fixed update

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 6:05 PM

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it doesn't matter

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i'm hooking even lower level than that

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 6:05 PM

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it does matter

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 6:05 PM

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I'm literally able to tell the game to use any timescale I want

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now

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 6:06 PM

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imagine you start your code after 1100 ms and fixed update is every 1000ms

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compared to starting it at 1900ms

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in one case you'd get a fixed update after 100m

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and the other after 900

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meaning you wouldn't get the amount of fixed updates per frame

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 6:07 PM

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no what I mean is this is the low level way that it gets the time

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 6:07 PM

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like you'd get the same amount of updates overall

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 6:07 PM

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for both of these

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 6:07 PM

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but it won't sync

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imagine the first frame you expect to fixed updates on a frame that took 25ms

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that can only happen if fixed update was 5 frames away from proccing

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unless we make sure no updates besides what are necessary run

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and even then it'd only work running from a fresh game load

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 6:14 PM

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I'm not sure what you mean but what I can say is this. I can use this to make code that forces the game to run at a fixed framerate

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basically make it into celeste kinda

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idk

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 6:14 PM

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so fixedupdate runs once per x milliseconds that pass

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if your frametime isnt a perfect multiple of this

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its effectively how fixedupdates you'll get per frame

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this would sync from a powered on state

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but fixed update only runs at the start of update

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so the code looks something like this

Update(){
    while(FixedTime < currentTime){
        FixedTime += fixedDeltaTime;
        FixedUpdate();
    }
    //stuff
}

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 6:18 PM

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except here's the catch. I can tell the game how many milliseconds pass.

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 6:18 PM

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well it doesn't matter

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 6:18 PM

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and this would apply to both fixed update and regular update

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 6:18 PM

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because you don't want to run this from start

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you'll be rerunning scripts repeatedly

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post launch

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making FixedTime random

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at the start of your TAS

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except for a full game TAS

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so it'd make say doing the THK fight to test one move

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you'd have to do the entire TAS from the start

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 6:20 PM

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wew setting it to 100us makes the game really slow

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setting it too high causes the game to not load

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 6:20 PM

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.33 seconds is the highest it wants to go

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afaik

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 6:21 PM

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the "problem" is as you said it can't distinguish between the various kinds of updates

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so if unity internally is expecting 1ms to pass between calls for one thing and 10ms to pass between them for another it will get messed up

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 6:22 PM

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I didn't have a problem with it not loading

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 6:22 PM

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on the plus side

📎 amazing-56.mp4

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I got it runnning as fast as possible

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 6:23 PM

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looks real smooth

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 6:23 PM

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I hate how unsmooth my screen recording program is

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sry

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 6:23 PM

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I think the easiest way tbh

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 6:23 PM

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its running great in game

copper nacelle Jul 1, 2018, 6:23 PM

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unsmooth

exotic venture Jul 1, 2018, 6:23 PM

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amazing-56

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 6:23 PM

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is make sure time elapsed is always a factor of fixedTimeStep

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so 1/50, 1/100 or 1/150 of a second etc

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can you replace functions in the Random class

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oh LoL

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I just killed NGG2

copper nacelle Jul 1, 2018, 6:32 PM

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nice

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 6:32 PM

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just mashed nail and heal

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good fight

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v hard

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much skill

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 6:36 PM

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yeah ur right this isn't that useful

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memes

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very large spread in difference in times between calls:

0.000166 since last call.
3.7e-05 since last call.
6.4e-05 since last call.
3.1e-05 since last call.
3.2e-05 since last call.
1.6e-05 since last call.
1.6e-05 since last call.
0.000233 since last call.
2.6e-05 since last call.
1.6e-05 since last call.
1.4e-05 since last call.
8.2e-05 since last call.
2.4e-05 since last call.
1.6e-05 since last call.
1.4e-05 since last call.
8.5e-05 since last call.
2.1e-05 since last call.
1.6e-05 since last call.
1.4e-05 since last call.
3.6e-05 since last call.
0.000103 since last call.
2.7e-05 since last call.
1.4e-05 since last call.
1.4e-05 since last call.
3.5e-05 since last call.
0.00085 since last call.
3.5e-05 since last call.
2.3e-05 since last call.
2.1e-05 since last call.
0.000109 since last call.

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maybe it's possible to only run if the function that calls this function has a certain name or something

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 6:37 PM

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im just going to make it so deltaTime is equal to fixedDeltaTime

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 6:38 PM

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ok probably the smarter move

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 6:38 PM

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and then fps cap at 50

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so it plays back at a close to realistic rate

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now all I need is to write a mod

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that checks game state / sets inputs from a file

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and make rng deterministic

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I don't think unity uses Random internally

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so just replacing all instances of it in the assembly with a custom function

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should work

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 6:42 PM

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huh maybe I can override internal functions

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it uses rand

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from stdlib

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 6:46 PM

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can you access any variables outside that

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preferably how many milliseconds its been running

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well your program will have that right

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so if you seed the rand with that

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it should always return the same data

orchid fractal Jul 1, 2018, 6:47 PM

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is there like a doc that explains what all the mods do?

young walrus Jul 1, 2018, 6:47 PM

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The Readme that comes with each

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 6:48 PM

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I could

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yes

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or I could

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const int totallyRandomNumber = 0;

int rand() {


    return 4;
}```

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 6:48 PM

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I dunno if that will work good

copper nacelle Jul 1, 2018, 6:48 PM

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wouldn't that make stuff like

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 6:48 PM

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nice xkcd refernce though

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and yes

copper nacelle Jul 1, 2018, 6:48 PM

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do the same attack 400 times in a row

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 6:48 PM

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enemies would constantly repeat attacks

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unless they have triggers + random

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which is why I said to use the current time running

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preferably the time spent in the room

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so you can just start a section outside a room and it'd sync in a full game tas

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 6:51 PM

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ok so overriding rand works but it only runs it once to seed its actual random number generator

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which is internal

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 6:51 PM

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unhelpful

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as its likely the order things ask for random for is random

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or atleast undeterministic

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 6:51 PM

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wait maybe

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hold on a sec

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 6:51 PM

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I don't trust unity to load stuff in order

copper nacelle Jul 1, 2018, 6:52 PM

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why not just set the seed to 4

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 6:52 PM

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see above

copper nacelle Jul 1, 2018, 6:52 PM

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ah

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 6:52 PM

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it needs to be seeded per request and the seed needs to be frame based

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so everything that requests random will get the same value every run through

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but if the seed is just set once, and then A asks for rand then B once, but next time B asks before A

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wow desync'd nice

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 6:53 PM

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actually setting the seed to a static number using this isn't the worst idea imo

orchid fractal Jul 1, 2018, 6:54 PM

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the boop mod doesn't have a readme, what does it do?

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 6:54 PM

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replaces sounds with boop

young walrus Jul 1, 2018, 6:54 PM

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Makes noise

copper nacelle Jul 1, 2018, 6:55 PM

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B O O P

orchid fractal Jul 1, 2018, 6:55 PM

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cornywoke

young walrus Jul 1, 2018, 6:55 PM

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https://youtu.be/ucRfdCtjbbA

YouTube

Bjorngomes

Overwatch - Sombra Boop

Boop. Extended Version: https://youtu.be/Yz41E9FDeQQ Original Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Og5-Pm4HNlI Group: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/bjor...

▶ Play video

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 7:00 PM

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hmm

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can monomod not override fields

copper nacelle Jul 1, 2018, 7:09 PM

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@compact sedge is hardmode a global setting var

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 7:09 PM

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yes

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 7:09 PM

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yes

copper nacelle Jul 1, 2018, 7:09 PM

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cool

clever imp Jul 1, 2018, 7:10 PM

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Is there a place with like, descriptions for what mods are

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All I can find is that list of them in pins

copper nacelle Jul 1, 2018, 7:11 PM

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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xRcL7LJHQbN_lpNYWKYggGA_st0ewnLd1s5X20ukD7s/edit?usp=sharing

Google Docs

Mod Summary

Key:Functional ChangesAsset ChangesQuality of LifeHelpersModding/Speedrunning Non-API Mods Unending Dreams: Respawns Dream Warriors upon defeat to allow refighting them Cut Content: Introduces inaccessible content to the game 110 Percent: Adds new completion percentage r...

clever imp Jul 1, 2018, 7:13 PM

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Any reason to use HPBar and Enemy HPBar at the same time

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 7:13 PM

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no

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enemy hpbar is effectively hpbar2

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hpbar is legacy atm

clever imp Jul 1, 2018, 7:14 PM

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Oh I see

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Thanks guys

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Probably in some kind of faq but if I'm modding will I still get steam achievements

young walrus Jul 1, 2018, 7:14 PM

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Yes

clever imp Jul 1, 2018, 7:15 PM

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Okay thank you everyone

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omggrub

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❤ happygrub

fair rampart Jul 1, 2018, 7:28 PM

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ive been using both hp bars oops lol

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 7:36 PM

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old one won't do anything post lifeblood

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it uses an old class

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that doesn't exist anymore

fair rampart Jul 1, 2018, 7:39 PM

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oh cool then it wasnt doing anything anyway

orchid fractal Jul 1, 2018, 7:59 PM

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is the randomizer mod supposed to skip vengeful spirit?

copper nacelle Jul 1, 2018, 7:59 PM

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what

hollow pier Jul 1, 2018, 7:59 PM

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its just a pickup then you walk into the mound

orchid fractal Jul 1, 2018, 8:00 PM

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ic

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thought I got screwed out of progressing to greenpath

hollow pier Jul 1, 2018, 8:00 PM

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there are a lot of ways to enter gpath

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 8:02 PM

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can you get to queen's gardens from deepnest with just wall jump and dash?

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because if so you could climb to greenpath from there I think

young walrus Jul 1, 2018, 8:03 PM

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Go through howling cliffs

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 8:03 PM

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pfft that's the easy way

young walrus Jul 1, 2018, 8:04 PM

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And yeah. There's like 10 things you can use to get into greenpath.

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 8:04 PM

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what does howling cliffs require

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to get to greenpath from there I mean

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I know you need wall jumping but anything else?

young walrus Jul 1, 2018, 8:04 PM

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Claw

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That's it

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 8:04 PM

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dang

misty cedar Jul 1, 2018, 8:43 PM

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With the Hollow Knight Randomizer, is there any way to manually customise which items are obtained where? Say if I want to change the progression path, I'd like to manually replace Vengeful Spirit with the Monarch Wings at the Ancestral Mound?

young walrus Jul 1, 2018, 8:43 PM

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No

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Would have to find the specific seed that does that

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Or just write your own mod xml

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 8:44 PM

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hollow knight custom mod when

misty cedar Jul 1, 2018, 8:45 PM

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Can someone explain what this randomizer helper does then, because I have no clue what anything on this page means. https://rainingchain.com/hollowknight/randomizer

Hollow Knight Randomizer Helper

Randomizer Helper for the game Hollow Knight.

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I don't know if this is for generating a custom seed or for explaining what a seed I am using will do.

copper nacelle Jul 1, 2018, 8:47 PM

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shows you items you can get with what you have

young walrus Jul 1, 2018, 8:47 PM

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Tells you what item locations are reachable with your current equipment

misty cedar Jul 1, 2018, 8:47 PM

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Oh ok

young walrus Jul 1, 2018, 8:47 PM

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It doesn't interact with randomizer in any way

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Just helps the player with game knowledge

misty cedar Jul 1, 2018, 8:50 PM

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Is anyone working on a custom randomizer tool that creates a .xml where you can choose where and what items you find? Something akin to the Universal Pokemon Randomizer?

young walrus Jul 1, 2018, 8:50 PM

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No

misty cedar Jul 1, 2018, 8:50 PM

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shit

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:/

copper nacelle Jul 1, 2018, 8:50 PM

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you do it

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 8:51 PM

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no u

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/s

copper nacelle Jul 1, 2018, 8:51 PM

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🔃

young walrus Jul 1, 2018, 8:52 PM

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U no

misty cedar Jul 1, 2018, 8:52 PM

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I'm a beginner of C# and that's it, I don't believe I have the sufficient knowledge required to do that. But I would love to if I could. 😃

copper nacelle Jul 1, 2018, 8:52 PM

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best way to learn is doing imo

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 8:53 PM

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best way is copying other people's code

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like how @copper nacelle copies my name

misty cedar Jul 1, 2018, 8:53 PM

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All true

young walrus Jul 1, 2018, 8:53 PM

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Thought you were given green name for a minute

misty cedar Jul 1, 2018, 8:53 PM

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Stack Overflow is my bible.

young walrus Jul 1, 2018, 8:54 PM

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Then realized it was just 56 memeing

copper nacelle Jul 1, 2018, 8:54 PM

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how's redwing hardmode btw

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 8:54 PM

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I beat it so it's not that hard

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lol

rain cedar Jul 1, 2018, 8:54 PM

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Do you mean like a plando or just custom logic?

young walrus Jul 1, 2018, 8:54 PM

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Plando I think

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 8:54 PM

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the only boss that killed me on redwing hardmode was the crystal guardian stage 2

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who I fought with a +1 nail upgrade

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and 5 hp

hazy sentinel Jul 1, 2018, 8:55 PM

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what does hardmode do

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 8:55 PM

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it makes it so you can only do damage with redwing attacks

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all others do 1 dmg

copper nacelle Jul 1, 2018, 8:55 PM

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1 damage for everything but fire attacks

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 8:55 PM

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also

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you get a pity greatslash

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it's a weaker version of normal one

copper nacelle Jul 1, 2018, 8:55 PM

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does that launch out fireballs

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 8:55 PM

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but it makes it so you can actually kill balders

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the pity one launches 1 fireball

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the normal one launches 4

copper nacelle Jul 1, 2018, 8:56 PM

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nice

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 8:56 PM

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I didn't want to have the blackmoth problem of unkillable enemies before you unlock spells

rain cedar Jul 1, 2018, 8:57 PM

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How can there be a balder when everything in the game is already bald?

young walrus Jul 1, 2018, 8:57 PM

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cohhFail

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 8:57 PM

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it like a baldur but for people who are angles instead of angels

hazy sentinel Jul 1, 2018, 8:58 PM

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should i stream hardmode meme

copper nacelle Jul 1, 2018, 8:58 PM

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Ree

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I was gonna do that

rain cedar Jul 1, 2018, 8:58 PM

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Stream low% nsoob

hazy sentinel Jul 1, 2018, 8:58 PM

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also why are there like 90 settings

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 8:58 PM

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because I made absolutely everything configurable

copper nacelle Jul 1, 2018, 8:58 PM

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cause it's aa

misty cedar Jul 1, 2018, 8:59 PM

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@compact sedge Could you give me a quick summary of what is changed in Redwing? I have it downloaded but I haven't tried it out yet.

copper nacelle Jul 1, 2018, 8:59 PM

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f i r e b a l l s

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and l a s e r s

misty cedar Jul 1, 2018, 8:59 PM

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Yoshi?

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 8:59 PM

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yum

copper nacelle Jul 1, 2018, 8:59 PM

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why does mobile correct r to e

hazy sentinel Jul 1, 2018, 8:59 PM

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big yes

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young walrus Jul 1, 2018, 8:59 PM

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Redwing hasn't changed for you if you've. Never tried it. zote

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 8:59 PM

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doesn't do anything yet tho

copper nacelle Jul 1, 2018, 8:59 PM

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noot

misty cedar Jul 1, 2018, 9:00 PM

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I don't get it. dunq

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 9:00 PM

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lore isn't coming until CP1 or at least my first patch.
also I have a setting to override blackmoth cloak color and that doesn't make sense because blackmoth doesn't change your cloak color yet

young walrus Jul 1, 2018, 9:00 PM

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Do you like fire? Do you like balls? If so, you'll like redwing

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 9:00 PM

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https://github.com/natis1/redwing

GitHub

natis1/redwing

redwing - A firey Hollow Knight mod/addon for Blackmoth

hazy sentinel Jul 1, 2018, 9:00 PM

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is there a hardmode bool or do you just set each thing manually

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 9:00 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoE9GuWDzPw

YouTube

stonium

Redwing Hollow Knight Mod Gameplay Trailer

A small video showing some of the effects from my new Hollow Knight mod, Redwing. Coming early 2018, this mod adds several new fire and light based effects t...

▶ Play video

copper nacelle Jul 1, 2018, 9:01 PM

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i mean what

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 9:01 PM

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no there's a bool

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it's very explicit

hazy sentinel Jul 1, 2018, 9:01 PM

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whomst

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 9:01 PM

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handicapAllNonFireAttacks

copper nacelle Jul 1, 2018, 9:01 PM

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cornywoke

hazy sentinel Jul 1, 2018, 9:01 PM

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wow very clear

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just look out for the handicap

misty cedar Jul 1, 2018, 9:01 PM

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So a bunch of fiery meatball attacks, good.

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 9:02 PM

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yeah I guess. It doesn't affect save files you could could download it and try it out on an existing one if you really wanted to. but it's designed for new games

misty cedar Jul 1, 2018, 9:02 PM

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Cool, well thanks for chat, got to go, see you.

copper nacelle Jul 1, 2018, 9:03 PM

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elderbug

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 9:03 PM

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elderbug

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tbh it's not that hard tho... not yet. there will definitely be more options to make it harder in the future.

hazy sentinel Jul 1, 2018, 9:03 PM

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wow it works https://www.twitch.tv/verulean314

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 9:04 PM

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happygrub

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RIP

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oh forgot about that

copper nacelle Jul 1, 2018, 10:13 PM

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@compact sedge

            EventInfo hi = ModHooks.Instance.GetType().GetEvent("HitInstanceHook", BindingFlags.Instance | BindingFlags.Public);
            isHitInstance = !Equals(hi, null);
            if (isHitInstance)
            {
                Log("HitInstanceHook found!");
                Delegate handler = Delegate.CreateDelegate(hi.EventHandlerType, this, "SetDamages");
                hi.AddEventHandler(ModHooks.Instance, handler);
            }
            else
            {
                Log("HitInstanceHook not found! Using older methods.");
                ModHooks.Instance.HeroUpdateHook += OldSetDamages;
                ModHooks.Instance.OnGetEventSenderHook += DashSoul;
            }

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 10:13 PM

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mono straight up crashed when I used monomod hooks with blackmoth

rain cedar Jul 1, 2018, 10:14 PM

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Why is it red?

copper nacelle Jul 1, 2018, 10:14 PM

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diff

rain cedar Jul 1, 2018, 10:14 PM

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Ok but how do you even get color formatting into discord?

copper nacelle Jul 1, 2018, 10:15 PM

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```diff

red

green
```

rain cedar Jul 1, 2018, 10:15 PM

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Cool

bronze temple Jul 1, 2018, 10:17 PM

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@compact sedge are you sure that you're using the newest version of MonoMod?

copper nacelle Jul 1, 2018, 10:17 PM

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probably not tbh

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 10:17 PM

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uhh well all I know is it compiled successfully and broke in runtime

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and also

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I used the precompiled binary and it broke too

bronze temple Jul 1, 2018, 10:18 PM

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precompiled binary from where?

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 10:18 PM

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the google drive

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for mod common

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plus old blackmoth

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that had the hook

bronze temple Jul 1, 2018, 10:18 PM

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and the source from https://github.com/0x0ade/MonoMod/ ?

GitHub

0x0ade/MonoMod

MonoMod - A general purpose .NET assembly modding "basework", powered by cecil.

copper nacelle Jul 1, 2018, 10:18 PM

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that but outdated

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lemme check how many commits behind i am

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 10:18 PM

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^

bronze temple Jul 1, 2018, 10:19 PM

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yeah uh

copper nacelle Jul 1, 2018, 10:19 PM

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oh no

bronze temple Jul 1, 2018, 10:19 PM

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copper nacelle Jul 1, 2018, 10:19 PM

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13 commits behind

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 10:19 PM

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all I know is just having the hook in blackmoth caused it to fail for some reason. possibly because of that

copper nacelle Jul 1, 2018, 10:19 PM

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i'll go update it

bronze temple Jul 1, 2018, 10:19 PM

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also

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#

that one was prone to cause SIGSEGVs all over the place

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but only on Mono, not the .NET Framework

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 10:19 PM

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it was a sigabrt

bronze temple Jul 1, 2018, 10:20 PM

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ah

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 10:20 PM

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let me see if I have the coredump

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 10:20 PM

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wow 0x0ade instantly here when someone mentions monomod breaking

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 10:20 PM

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probably not useful because unity bundles its own mono

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which is old

copper nacelle Jul 1, 2018, 10:20 PM

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0x0ade can sense monomod mentions

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true facts

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 10:21 PM

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no I don't have the coredump anymore it got deleted beause it's kinda old

bronze temple Jul 1, 2018, 10:21 PM

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well, if you somehow remember if you had a stack trace related to that

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and if it in any way mentioned getting the param info,

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it's that

copper nacelle Jul 1, 2018, 10:22 PM

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unrelated question: can i use reference monomod utils and then merge monomod utils w/ the dll and use them

bronze temple Jul 1, 2018, 10:22 PM

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otherwise, if it's just seemingly random memory corruption,

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it's the lack of 64-bit jumps when they were required

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because I've been told that code will never be separated more than 2 GB from each other hollowomg

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thanks Linux

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 10:23 PM

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linux not believing in ACE

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 10:23 PM

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all I know is I got a black screen after the mods loaded and then the game crashed and there were like no useful debug symbols in either mono or unity.

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 10:23 PM

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I want to execute textures as code

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thanks

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 10:23 PM

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and because I'm dumb I don't have any of my system libraries built with debugging either

bronze temple Jul 1, 2018, 10:24 PM

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let's just hope that the recent commits will fix your issues :)

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@copper nacelle you should be? Depends on where and how you're refering to either of them

copper nacelle Jul 1, 2018, 10:24 PM

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was gonna use the fast delegate maker thingy

bronze temple Jul 1, 2018, 10:25 PM

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if you refer to MonoMod.Utils.dll from one of the assemblies which will be merged, you should be fine

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if you want to refer to MonoMod.Utils.dll from outside, f.e. a runtime loaded mod, you'll need to refer to the merged assembly instead

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unless you want to "relink" mods before loading them, redirecting their references from MM.Utils.dll to the merged .dll

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which is a thing, because I need to relink Celeste mods from FNA to XNA before loading them on the fly, depending on what version of Celeste is installed

copper nacelle Jul 1, 2018, 10:27 PM

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doing the first one so it should all be good

bronze temple Jul 1, 2018, 10:27 PM

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Tip: if you just need the merged .dll to build your mods against them but don't want to redistribute any of the original code,

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mono-cil-strip is your friend :)

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 10:27 PM

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theres no code anyone would want to steal anyway

#

switch (cardinalDirection)
    {
    case 0:
    {
        int num = this.invincibleFromDirection;
        switch (num)
        {
        case 5:
        case 8:
        case 10:
            break;
        default:
            if (num != 1)
            {
                return false;
            }
            break;
        }
        return true;
    }
    case 1:
        switch (this.invincibleFromDirection)
        {
        case 2:
        case 5:
        case 6:
        case 7:
        case 8:
        case 9:
            return true;
        }
        return false;
    case 2:
    {
        int num2 = this.invincibleFromDirection;
        switch (num2)
        {
        case 3:
        case 6:
            break;
        default:
            switch (num2)
            {
            case 9:
            case 11:
                return true;
            }
            return false;
        }
        return true;
    }
    case 3:
        switch (this.invincibleFromDirection)
        {
        case 4:
        case 7:
        case 8:
        case 9:
        case 10:
        case 11:
            return true;
        }
        return false;
    default:
        return false;
    }

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figure that one out

bronze temple Jul 1, 2018, 10:29 PM

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Are there any const ints remotely related to that?

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 10:29 PM

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don't ask me why they didn't do return cardinalDirection & invulnDirections and made the data line up nicely

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and no

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there isn't

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they are pretty much random

bronze temple Jul 1, 2018, 10:30 PM

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thinkgrub

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btw

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 10:30 PM

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bronze temple Jul 1, 2018, 10:31 PM

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no I'm not 0xd4d, even though we both maintain C#-modding-related projects cruorzThink

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0xd4d is much cooler than me

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 10:31 PM

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stop pretending to be him

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by having a similar name

bronze temple Jul 1, 2018, 10:32 PM

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but I picked my name before I even heard of him D:

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 10:32 PM

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no proof

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unverified

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banned

#

intenseface

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why is mono so gay

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practically gives me mono

bronze temple Jul 1, 2018, 10:33 PM

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no, the question is,

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 10:33 PM

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why can't it just be "do thing I want"

bronze temple Jul 1, 2018, 10:33 PM

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why is Unity's mono so gay :^)

#

and the question extends to Unity itself as well - I've been told that their asset formats use both little and big endian in the same file

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 10:34 PM

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I wouldn't worry about anything unity does

#

you'll leave with more questions than you entered with

#

like Color.black

#

you'd think that'd be black

#

but you're wrong

#

all 4 values are 0

#

so its actually transparent

#

420iq

bronze temple Jul 1, 2018, 10:36 PM

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oh god I haven't heard of that one before

#

and am dying of laughter in my chair right now

#

thanks

#

let's just hope everything will become better with ECS and their upc~ who am I kidding, everything's going to be worse than ever once the first ECS games get released

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 10:40 PM

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oh its not color.black its this https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Texture2D-blackTexture.html @bronze temple

#

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#

truly next level

bronze temple Jul 1, 2018, 10:41 PM

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I mean, they're right, if you ignore blending :^)

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 10:43 PM

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just have a black background behind the color

#

and then it's accurate

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 10:43 PM

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incase you're wondering how I have this knowledge

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compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 10:44 PM

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do all the other colors have an alpha of 1?

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 10:44 PM

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yes

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 10:44 PM

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wow

copper nacelle Jul 1, 2018, 10:44 PM

#

420iq

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 10:44 PM

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nice game engine design

copper nacelle Jul 1, 2018, 10:44 PM

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unity is my favorite game

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 10:46 PM

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the game is trying to figure out how it works

bronze temple Jul 1, 2018, 10:46 PM

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do they even perform dogfooding other than those cinematic tech demos?

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 10:46 PM

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dogfooding

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 10:46 PM

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unity doesn't make games

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 10:47 PM

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lol

#

yeah right

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 10:47 PM

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besides a few imo subpar examples

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 10:47 PM

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tbh at least unreal makes games

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 10:48 PM

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unity does about as much as valve

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infact I think valve does more

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 10:48 PM

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valve makes dota 2

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and artifact

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those are like real games

copper nacelle Jul 1, 2018, 10:48 PM

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cs go

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 10:49 PM

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I said real games

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not life eating simulators

copper nacelle Jul 1, 2018, 10:50 PM

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corny

bronze temple Jul 1, 2018, 10:51 PM

#

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GooBall

GooBall

GooBall is a Mac video game by Over The Edge Entertainment, now Unity Technologies, and published by Ambrosia Software. In the game, the player assumes the role of an alien stranded on Earth. "Goober", as the alien becomes known to the CIA, is stuck inside a life support devi...

#

The game that got it all started

compact sedge Jul 1, 2018, 10:51 PM

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wow

bronze temple Jul 1, 2018, 10:51 PM

#

Half-Life 2 showcasing Source is nothing compared to this intenseface

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 10:51 PM

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half-life 2 is just a rip off of quake 3 arena

#

unity is an original character I mean engine

#

source is just goldsrc which is just id Tech 3

bronze temple Jul 1, 2018, 10:56 PM

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Unity is a bad Game Maker clone, even relying on you to bring your own code editor because it lacks its own

leaden hedge Jul 1, 2018, 10:57 PM

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it has monodevelop

#

I mean it crashed 80% of the time it tries to load any file

#

but its there

bronze temple Jul 1, 2018, 10:57 PM

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strictly speaking, it's not even their own, but true

copper nacelle Jul 1, 2018, 11:32 PM

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this seem useful?

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copper nacelle Jul 2, 2018, 2:41 AM

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was gonna mod furi

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checked and it was unity and c# and stuff which is nice

#

extreme pain

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compact sedge Jul 2, 2018, 2:42 AM

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I knew this was gonna happen

copper nacelle Jul 2, 2018, 2:42 AM

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it's a boss rush game too

#

so it's probably all the boss ai

rain cedar Jul 2, 2018, 2:43 AM

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What if it's everything?

copper nacelle Jul 2, 2018, 2:44 AM

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tbh

#

it looks like it is everything

#

there's like

#

nothing

#

in the assembly

#

i thought hk was all fsm but this looks like it's even more fsm

compact sedge Jul 2, 2018, 2:45 AM

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how is there nothing in there but it's 3MB

copper nacelle Jul 2, 2018, 2:46 AM

#

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rain cedar Jul 2, 2018, 2:47 AM

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Probably all the playmaker actions

copper nacelle Jul 2, 2018, 2:47 AM

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gonna try the fsm dumper thingy

#

and see how many million fsms come out

solemn rivet Jul 2, 2018, 2:49 AM

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rip 56

#

he died doing what he loved

copper nacelle Jul 2, 2018, 2:49 AM

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til fsm mod can edit fsms

compact sedge Jul 2, 2018, 2:50 AM

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somehow this is more insane than me trying to disassemble unity.

copper nacelle Jul 2, 2018, 2:50 AM

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idk how i missed that you can just put stuff in hack_fsm and have it be edited

solemn rivet Jul 2, 2018, 2:50 AM

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wut

compact sedge Jul 2, 2018, 2:50 AM

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🤦 ofc u can

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it's useless for distributing mods tho

solemn rivet Jul 2, 2018, 2:50 AM

#

oh

copper nacelle Jul 2, 2018, 2:50 AM

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reading readmes is a myth

compact sedge Jul 2, 2018, 2:50 AM

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apparently so

solemn rivet Jul 2, 2018, 2:50 AM

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you mean you can edit the fsms and put them there for the game to load

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gotcha

copper nacelle Jul 2, 2018, 2:51 AM

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To modify FSMs, just copy the relevant file, keeping the same file name, into another folder in the application data directory called 'hack_fsm'. PlayMaker will look for the existence of that file and load it replacing the normal data.

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idk how i missed it

compact sedge Jul 2, 2018, 2:51 AM

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so does that mean we almost have a working enemy serializer then

#

cuz if so then maybe enemyrando will actuall run on normal computers

rain cedar Jul 2, 2018, 2:51 AM

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No not really

compact sedge Jul 2, 2018, 2:51 AM

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well what can't we serialize

#

we can dump fsms, and health managers and sprites and audio

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what's missing

rain cedar Jul 2, 2018, 2:52 AM

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Idk ask kerr how far he got

copper nacelle Jul 2, 2018, 2:53 AM

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about to die

copper nacelle Jul 2, 2018, 3:15 AM

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wow it doesn't have as many fsms as i thought

#

found a bunch more assembly stuff too

#

almost through the first phase of one of the bosses

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#

this thing has like

#

no fsms

#

this is great

#

useful and good fsm

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they're all just TriggerEvents

#

nothing of actual value

rain cedar Jul 2, 2018, 3:24 AM

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Where's state 1, though?

copper nacelle Jul 2, 2018, 3:24 AM

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the void

#

i don't think any of these have more than like 3 or 4 states

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#

they've got a bunch of non PlaymakerFSMs

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fsms but not terrible

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#

who needs piracy

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solemn rivet Jul 2, 2018, 3:33 AM

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heck

compact sedge Jul 2, 2018, 3:33 AM

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lol

rain cedar Jul 2, 2018, 3:33 AM

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Wow does it actually have the content for it?

copper nacelle Jul 2, 2018, 3:33 AM

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yeah i think so

compact sedge Jul 2, 2018, 3:33 AM

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what if you just replace it with return DLCState.INSTALLED

rain cedar Jul 2, 2018, 3:33 AM

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Free DLC I guess

solemn rivet Jul 2, 2018, 3:36 AM

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not free

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you need to know how to code

#

zote

copper nacelle Jul 2, 2018, 3:37 AM

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bunch of hashed clip state thingies

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compact sedge Jul 2, 2018, 3:37 AM

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Sourcecode is worthless to like 95% of all computer users, and only especially valuable to <1%

copper nacelle Jul 2, 2018, 3:38 AM

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found an enemy that isn't fsm

#

this is beautiful

compact sedge Jul 2, 2018, 3:40 AM

#

speaking of source code. I need y'alls suggestions I need a break from working on redwing so which of these should I do first?

(try to) Port the gradow mod installer to non-windows platforms ok_grimm
Fix the numerous problems with grimmchild upgrades grimm
Start working on a monobehavior for easily speeding up/slowing enemies and infinite enemies grimmwink

copper nacelle Jul 2, 2018, 3:41 AM

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wow this game has built in ez events

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like actually

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compact sedge Jul 2, 2018, 3:42 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YmMNpbFjp0

copper nacelle Jul 2, 2018, 3:42 AM

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lmao

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time for large output

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tfw everything cool is a resource

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compact sedge Jul 2, 2018, 3:54 AM

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seems fun to mod

#

have fun

copper nacelle Jul 2, 2018, 3:59 AM

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extreme pain

#

might as well be a playmaker fsm

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literally an action in a state machine

compact sedge Jul 2, 2018, 4:08 AM

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fix the formatting and it's totally doable

copper nacelle Jul 2, 2018, 4:09 AM

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yeah

#

even has time values to modify super easily

#

but still

#

pain

#

all code no assets except art when

solemn rivet Jul 2, 2018, 4:15 AM

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all code no assets art only%

ripe blaze Jul 2, 2018, 4:24 AM

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Anyone made a fun and op mod yetM

compact sedge Jul 2, 2018, 4:25 AM

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IDK if they're fun or not but redwing makes you pretty strong

#

as does blackmoth

#

and heck even lightbringer if you think about it

young walrus Jul 2, 2018, 4:28 AM

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debug mod is pretty broken

flat forum Jul 2, 2018, 4:29 AM

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because older version?

young walrus Jul 2, 2018, 4:29 AM

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because you can't be killed

compact sedge Jul 2, 2018, 4:29 AM

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ugh you'd think they'd balance it. I heard you can just increase your nail damage infinitely

flat forum Jul 2, 2018, 4:29 AM

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Ah, yeah

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that as well

compact sedge Jul 2, 2018, 4:29 AM

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who would think that's a good idea

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/s

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alright starting work on the mod installer port thingy

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as with crossroads. no promises. But I have a feeling that up-to-date mono is a little better than unity mono for these kinds of programs

solemn rivet Jul 2, 2018, 4:38 AM

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wait

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lemme push this little change I just made

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:x

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done

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something broke when it didn't find the default paths

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for some reason form.Show(); was opening and closing the form in the same frame

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so I changed it to Application.Run(form());

compact sedge Jul 2, 2018, 4:41 AM

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aaa now I have to update my remote repo

solemn rivet Jul 2, 2018, 4:43 AM

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wait

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ffs winforms

compact sedge Jul 2, 2018, 4:44 AM

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ok are you pushing more changes or should I update my repo now

solemn rivet Jul 2, 2018, 4:44 AM

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trying form.ShowDialog();

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brb

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k, works

compact sedge Jul 2, 2018, 4:45 AM

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ok should I stick with the master branch or the test one

solemn rivet Jul 2, 2018, 4:45 AM

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pull me baby

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I should really squash these last few commits

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but I like how they're like art

compact sedge Jul 2, 2018, 4:46 AM

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good lord either do it now or do it after I'm done with my PR

solemn rivet Jul 2, 2018, 4:46 AM

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they tell a story

compact sedge Jul 2, 2018, 4:46 AM

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or don't do it

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much easier

solemn rivet Jul 2, 2018, 4:46 AM

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I won't do it

compact sedge Jul 2, 2018, 4:46 AM

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it beats 56's commits

solemn rivet Jul 2, 2018, 4:48 AM

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zote

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I have no chance of competing against 56

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I'll just change the download link and go to sleep

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1:50am bois

compact sedge Jul 2, 2018, 4:50 AM

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is there supposed to be no close button on this window

📎 unknown.png

solemn rivet Jul 2, 2018, 4:54 AM

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yeah

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your only escape is selecting

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zote prevents you from leaving the arena

compact sedge Jul 2, 2018, 4:57 AM

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meme

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📎 unknown.png

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:)

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unfortunately your hacky renderer doesn't render properly at all but on the plus side

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it does launch

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it does crash trying to install mods but easy fix

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this works surprisingly well with very little porting effort on my part.

📎 amazing-57.mp4

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although I'm not looking forward to fixing that right side menu UI

solemn rivet Jul 2, 2018, 5:22 AM

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very nice

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and, yeah, the renderer is somewhat hacky

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but shhh no one else needs to know

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:x

compact sedge Jul 2, 2018, 5:24 AM

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it's a mild problem because the right scrollbar doesn't scroll the mods on the left

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and shouldn't even exist

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first thing tho is trying to get your program to scale so it shows the close button

compact sedge Jul 2, 2018, 5:48 AM

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ok I have 0 clue why the Maximize box in the top right is appearing which is pushing the close button off the screen

📎 unknown.png

trim totem Jul 2, 2018, 5:49 AM

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thinkgrub

compact sedge Jul 2, 2018, 5:55 AM

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alright fixed it