if fixes itself if i start walking to the right, so that's alright at least.
#archived-modding-development
opal hearth
copper nacelle
do you have infinite grimm by any chance
compact sedge
I have no idea why but this is a bug in infinite grimm
opal hearth
it's installed but this run is like 20 min in
young walrus
Probably why your menus are weird too
opal hearth
fair nuff. should i uninstall it?
copper nacelle
tbh might be lightbringer
compact sedge
opal hearth
i only installed it cuz it said to with the grimmchild upgrades so i was like 🤷 alright
copper nacelle
use objectpoolspawnhook when
opal hearth
i haven't yet. this is my first run with it installed
copper nacelle
reminder that objectpoolspawnhook is god
spending like 2 hours trying to edit spawn object from global pool when it exists is fucking terrible
opal hearth
nope lol.
compact sedge
ok
maybe it's not a bug with infinite grimm
I know it's a bug with infinite grimm
opal hearth
i uh... didn't in my vanilla playthru yet either.. x.x
compact sedge
but it should only happen after you kill NKG
and if it's happening before then I'm super duper confused
if you're not speedrunning right now I'd remove it and see if it still happens and if so report it to 56 because that might be a lightbringer bug
young walrus
Nobody is at the start
opal hearth
oh, no i mean i'm not good at it with any game lol
young walrus
Again.... Nobody is at the start
leaden hedge
people git gud with practice
opal hearth
🤷
young walrus
I've run other games and my first ever HK run was 1.5 hours
copper nacelle
@compact sedge i meant the menu thing
leaden hedge
the implication that you can not git gud is false and extremely dumb
brolylegs is an invite level street fighter player with muscle dystrophy
copper nacelle
p sure my function fails half the time but it shouldn't break
copper nacelle
i'll go fix that
leaden hedge
you're just lazy
opal hearth
or i'm just disinterested
compact sedge
ok but why the fuck would IG break the camera when you haven't killed grimm at all when it doesn't even do anything at that point
what
copper nacelle
why would lightbringer break the camera when it doesn't even touch the camera
young walrus
Because bugs
opal hearth
there's only so many things in life we're capable of gitting gud at, speedrunning isn't one i'm looking to git gud at
leaden hedge
then why even play the game at all
compact sedge
this game is broken
leaden hedge
there isn't a limit of how many thing you can git gud at
and speedrunning is a single skill
compact sedge
git gud at shit u care about
opal hearth
idk why i'm being shit on for not caring about speedrunning lol. i play vidya games for other reasons.
young walrus
^
vagrant leaf
@copper nacelle stop making ur readmes .mds
copper nacelle
no
vagrant leaf
why
leaden hedge
because you said you'd never get good at, implying that you don't like it because you're bad
vagrant leaf
ree
compact sedge
what
leaden hedge
which implies people are magically good at things
vagrant leaf
wrong
compact sedge
ur a dungo
leaden hedge
yeah you can
compact sedge
hey
leaden hedge
its a text file
compact sedge
have you tried notepad
vagrant leaf
yes
compact sedge
I mean I knew you were bad with computers when you spent money on discord nitro
vagrant leaf
excuse me what the fuck
copper nacelle
@opal hearth does this fix it
opal hearth
where do i put this?
opal hearth
also, the camera bug seems fine now.
opal hearth
the charms still have no symbols in the shop but i'll try this DLL
copper nacelle
ty
rain cedar
Check modlog for errors
compact sedge
could loading dirtmouth twice cause camera errors
that's literally the only thing I could think of
and if so... wtf
worth a shot trying to fix I guess
opal hearth
at the very least, that error seems to be fine w/o it installed.
copper nacelle
but did the sprites fix
opal hearth
game is still startin up :3
compact sedge
ok guess loading dirtmouth twice does break it
aaaaaaaaa
this might cause weird behavior after killing NKG for the first time
but
opal hearth
nope, that didn't fix the sprites x.x
compact sedge
ok updated the modlinks
hopefully this breaks nothing
newest infinite grimm shouldn't have any camera problems in dirtmouth
opal hearth
oh shit, neat.
well, while you're here, does having infinite grimm on keep you from like, actually beating him the first time
compact sedge
no
opal hearth
ok good
compact sedge
you need to beat him once to unlock infinite grimm
opal hearth
ree indeeb. hrm.
copper nacelle
literally just
private void Awake(On.ShopItemStats.orig_Awake orig, ShopItemStats self)
{
orig(self);
if (!self.playerDataBoolName.StartsWith("gotCharm_")) return;
string key = "Charms." + self.playerDataBoolName.TrimStart("gotCharm_".ToCharArray());
if (Sprites.ContainsKey(key))
GetAttr<GameObject>(self, "itemSprite").GetComponent<SpriteRenderer>().sprite = Sprites[key];
}
the weird thing is i didn't change ANY mods i had installed between the non randomized run i was ditzing around with yesterday and my randomized one today. i didn't have any sprite issues then.
copper nacelle
weird
opal hearth
i can't imagine why that would happen.
rain cedar
Modlog
rain cedar
My best guess is TrimStart maybe fucks with the string instead of just returning a new one
compact sedge
this is kinda weird and obscure but is there a way to render sprites that lets them overlap without their alphas adding?
opal hearth
should i pastebin this?
compact sedge
because the alternative is this weird and annoying 0-1px gap caused by int rounding
I can't figure out how to fix
opal hearth
solemn rivet
I regret nothing
compact sedge
are you trying to run every mod at once
copper nacelle
infinite grimm failed to load
opal hearth
as far as i could tell, these are supposed to be compatible
dusky lion
Running every mod in the Google Drive at once h
compact sedge
the new one I just updated
copper nacelle
idk it's just in the modlog
dusky lion
That would be the ultimate experience
compact sedge
what
dusky lion
Of crashing
copper nacelle
compact sedge
that's grimmchild upgrades unable to find infinite grimm
compact sedge
and I would have fixed that but I thought I was the only grimmchild upgrades user
so I never bothered
rain cedar
emes
compact sedge
I'll fix it if I can find a fix for sprite int rounding memes
leaden hedge
does csharp not have array slices 😠
dusky lion
Mantis Lords became the Mantis Gods and now the Lost Kin is becoming the Lost Lord
copper nacelle
yes
dusky lion
Took their place
opal hearth
wtf
dusky lion
Now make Lost Kin spawn 3 of them
opal hearth
copper nacelle
wtf
do you have 2 dlls in your mods folder
wtf
trim start
trims any chars in the array from the start
dusky lion
Do you have 2 classes in your .dll
copper nacelle
not what i thought it did
rain cedar
Use substring
opal hearth
ohh, when you sent the updated lightbringer, i renamed the first one to lightbringer-backup thinking it wouldn't try to load it
compact sedge
Grimmchild Upgrades is not gonna work without infinite grimm and delete lightbringer-backup
copper nacelle
or name it lightbringer-backup.dll.bak or something
compact sedge
and I'll fix the upgrades one later today I guess once I figure out unity sprite memes
copper nacelle
also swapping to substring rn
opal hearth
the sprites are back.
copper nacelle
wtf
opal hearth
it might've been the lightbringer-backup
so whatever you fixed worked, it was just me not putting .bak at the end.
also angle, uninstalled, reinstalled infinite grimm, not having the camera error
dusky lion
Maybe it was just Lightbringer
First time I used Lightbringer none of the specially made sprites loaded in
And the 2nd time I launched the game it was perfectly fine
compact sedge
yeah I updated IG to fix it
copper nacelle
i fixed that bug i think
opal hearth
interesting
compact sedge
ok can someone tell me how to fix the y positions not always being perfect. is there sprite anti-aliasing I can do or something in unity?
notice the occasional 1px gap and 1px overlap between the cap and the trail
dusky lion
Inb4 Mystery pin
compact sedge
I didn't put it in meme so I hope not
hazy sentinel
just slap a 1 pixel rectangle in between them 
compact sedge
but sometimes they overlap
I actually tried something similar tho
and when they overlap it's even worse because as they fade out you get a really bright line
caused by the two semi-transparent sprites both glowing
dusky lion
The sizes of the trail and caps are not procedural themselves, right?
compact sedge
no
copper nacelle
wow 0/10 not 100% procedural
compact sedge
I think the problem is that the screen position of the cap and trail is rounded
to the nearest pixel
and not
allowed to be in between pixels
idk tho
does anyone here even develop stuff for unity outside modding other than sean?
hazy sentinel
can you like
dusky lion
If Sean is the exception just ask him
opal hearth
now with the updated sprite thing in light bringer, i actually have a lance. before i just had like, a sword beam
copper nacelle
tf
opal hearth
i thought i just hadn't gotten the right charm
dusky lion
That same thing happened to me h
compact sedge
idk how I'm just telling the sprite to draw at a certain position in the game world. and then unity in the back end draws the sprite on screen
compact sedge
based on your camera position
opal hearth
this changes everything lol
copper nacelle
reeeee that should've worked the first time
leaden hedge
what are you using spriterender or tk2d
opal hearth
i'm so sorry 56. i don't know what's going on. i thought that was working as intended
leaden hedge
which shader are you using
dusky lion
56 I thought you hated tk2d
copper nacelle
i do
compact sedge
idk I didn't add any shaders so I guess the unity default one?
I just have a unity game object with a spriterenderer
rain cedar
Wait hold up I don't develop for Unity outside of modding
I hate Unity
It's fucking garbage
compact sedge
how do you know so much then
rain cedar
Modding
compact sedge
dang
compact sedge
Let's pretend I can't
or if I can I have no idea how
consider they have to be rotated
copper nacelle
@opal hearth was the modlog you gave when the sword beam was there instead of the lance
compact sedge
and I can be 100% sure that their float positions are right
but not their actual int pixel positions
dusky lion
Modlogs only appear after crashing wha
opal hearth
yeah that's when it was still swordbeam
copper nacelle
[INFO]:[Lightbringer] - Changed Sprite: Lances REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
dusky lion
Unless I'm gay which don't rule that out
compact sedge
wtf is ur name finch
dusky lion
e
copper nacelle
it's 59
opal hearth
also should i be getting a lance when i swing up and down or should that still be a nail swing?
rain cedar
LVIX
compact sedge
LIX u fuckn uncultured swine
dusky lion
Oh Roman numerals I do not exist
rain cedar
Shit I fucked up too
compact sedge
4 I in a row doesn't
dusky lion
I thought it was just the number of Is continuously going up
copper nacelle
never more than 3 in a row
leaden hedge
CDXX
hazy sentinel
XD
opal hearth
should swinging up or down be a lance or the nail?
copper nacelle
nail
did you change anything before it became a lance
cause i'm confused as shit
opal hearth
okay, that's working well.
leaden hedge
if you have to rotate them good luck tbh on the sprite thing
compact sedge
uhh gr8 advice
leaden hedge
I'd recommend rendering them to a mesh
opal hearth
nah i just put your DLL in the folder
compact sedge
how I'd love to
copper nacelle
c o n f u s i o n
opal hearth
and after deleting the previous lightbringer DLL that i called a backup, it's working as intended.
compact sedge
ugh ok I'll steal 56's floor code cuz it's the only mesh rendering code I know of
or maybe
leaden hedge
default shader won't be transparent but you can probably just steal the tk2d one
opal hearth
i was so confused as to when i'd end up with a big lance thing lol
compact sedge
screw it no caps on flame trail
compact sedge
I'll just add an effect to make them look less crap
opal hearth
apparently i never would've x.x
leaden hedge
oh
compact sedge
pseudocaps
leaden hedge
did you try putting them on the same object
as children of one
and then rotating the parent
compact sedge
uh can you have multiple spriterenders on one object
that's what I'm doing
but I can't put the caps on until after its rotated
for reasons
leaden hedge
and its misaligned vertically 🤔
compact sedge
maybe it's because I'm forced to rotate the front cap an extra 180 degrees
GameObject trailCap1 = new GameObject("redwingTrailCap1", typeof(SpriteRenderer),
typeof(redwing_trail_cap_behavior));
trailCap1.transform.parent = gameObject.transform;
trailCap1.transform.localPosition = Vector3.zero;
Vector3 trailParent1Eulers = gameObject.transform.rotation.eulerAngles;
trailParent1Eulers.z += 180;
also was the lance in your inventory
compact sedge
maybe that messes it up
copper nacelle
cause it's supposed to replace the nail in your inventory too
compact sedge
maybe I should make 2 sets of caps one facing one way and one the other way
leaden hedge
I dunno
opal hearth
i'm not sure what other sprites i'm looking for.
leaden hedge
did you try getting it to work in unity editor
compact sedge
no fuck the unity editor way too much work
opal hearth
okay, so it is a lance in my inventory now. it wasn't before.
compact sedge
esp since the way these trails are rendered
is based on the knight's movement
so
like
sounds like a PITA to port to unity editor
leaden hedge
you don't have to do any of that though 🤔
opal hearth
also i actually still haven't gotten any charms. the randomizer gave me mothwing, shade, and mantis claw to start with and i haven't tried progressing any further since i started encountering the bugs
leaden hedge
just have a thing you can rotate and set the length of
copper nacelle
what about last playthrough
wasn't last playthrough also lightbringer
also pink gruz mother
compact sedge
I'll try two different sets of caps for the left and right side so no unique rotation needed and if that doesn't work then no caps or pseudocaps or weirdly colored caps or some caps that make it look ok
unless
can you build a sprite out of multiple texture2ds
opal hearth
the last playthru was also lightbringer, and the gruzmama was pink and a pain in my ass
leaden hedge
not quickly but yeah I guess 🤔
opal hearth
i didn't finish that playthru, i was going to today and was like naaah i'll just start a randomized one
compact sedge
ok I could premerge the first cap and the trail but I'd have to wait until the end to merge the end cap with the trail because I don't know when the end cap happens
opal hearth
"finna" oh no, i'm among my people.
dusky lion
56 dies rejoice
opal hearth
should i reupdate?
copper nacelle
not rn still testing
opal hearth
kk
leaden hedge
couldn't you just make something like this ignore my bad drawing
dusky lion
Use line tool imo
leaden hedge
paint doesn't have line tool
opal hearth
oh idr if i mentioned yesterday but i tested on a number of enemies, blackmoth doesn't seem to lower lance damage at all.
leaden hedge
oh wait it does
opal hearth
paint definitely has a line tool lmao
opal hearth
wtf is paint 3d is that a windows 10 thing
opal hearth
hah. welp, one day i'll have a better processor. then i can stream and whatnot. yay
leaden hedge
fixed
copper nacelle
@opal hearth idk if this'll even make a difference tbh
compact sedge
ok so here's the problem. I don't know how long the middle part is. the middle part grows over time and the end cap shouldn't be placed until the middle part is finished growing
leaden hedge
well I don't see how that matters
compact sedge
no I mean the length of the middle part is variable
leaden hedge
I don't see how that matters
rain cedar
It's variable length but you should still know the length of it, yeah?
compact sedge
my point is this. isn't making a composite texture like this at runtime really expensive?
rain cedar
Probably
leaden hedge
uv mapping is how gpus do texture lookups
so you basically say the bit at the left of your mesh used the left 40% of your texture
the center uses the center 20% and the right uses the right 40%
and no matter how much your mesh changes it'll just stretch the texture across the mesh
compact sedge
this seems like a giant rabbit hole and I have no idea where to start
leaden hedge
however you'd just hide the end cap until it starts to spawn
compact sedge
Maybe I'll look into this. might be a good idea for when I add nukes
leaden hedge
uv mapping isn't that complicated
compact sedge
any good documentation on doing it in code in unity
or is this the part where I really need the editor
leaden hedge
I'd probably mess around with it in editor but meshes aren't that complicated
they are just an array of vertices, normals and uvs
and each uv is mapped to a vertex, and the shader interps between them to figure out what to draw
so if you had a quad with the uvs (0,0) (0,0.5) (0.5,0) (0.5,0.5) it'd read from the top left half of your texture
compact sedge
ur bringing up bad engineering memories
leaden hedge
oh and theres an array of triangles
opal hearth
uh, so nailsmith said "upgrade nail to strengthen dash", is this not going to strengthen my lance too, or should i be doing another run without blackmoth?
leaden hedge
which are just positions of vertices in the vertex array
compact sedge
it depends on how lance damage is calculated
leaden hedge
i.e. (0,1,2) is make a triangle with the first 3 vertices
leaden hedge
although theres a 50% chance that faces the wrong way
compact sedge
yeah
ok
so
if you wanna know
blackmoth makes the nail do 1 dmg
by hooking on hit instance
and checking if the attacking gameobject has "Slash" in the name
opal hearth
all my testing yesterday had me killing enemies in the same amount of hits with and without blackmoth active
compact sedge
so it depends on how 56 programmed the lance I guess
opal hearth
i don't mod, idk anything about programing. what's hooking besides being a twitch thot?
compact sedge
it means that every time HitInstance is run
it runs the blackmoth code
and the blackmoth code can modify the hitInstance damage
hitinstance is a thing that happens whenever an enemy is hit
or for each frame you're using an attack like cdash or sharp shadow
copper nacelle
HeroController.instance.playerData.beamDamage =
3 + HeroController.instance.playerData.nailSmithUpgrades * 3;
re
compact sedge
it doesn't matter how you set the beamDamage if the beam hit instance object has Slash in the name
but it doesn't
probably
because it's a beam
leaden hedge
whens 8 direction attacks
copper nacelle
never
leaden hedge
nice
opal hearth
i don't have it yet
compact sedge
do 3000 dmg in one frame
it might kill him
not 100% sure
I didn't make his health actually infinite
copper nacelle
add an component with an ondestroy that spawns another one
leaden hedge
add an component with an ondestroy that spawns another two
compact sedge
I hate when I'm an idiot and get a null ref because I did something stupid
and then I have to relaunch the game to test the fixed one and it takes 45 secs
copper nacelle
put hk on a ramdisk and dnspy out the tc screen
compact sedge
so why isn't a gameobject's rotation set to the parent's rotation automatically?
leaden hedge
it should
finite thistle
fun fact in the last version i played cyclone slash actually worked perfectly fine with blackmoth
as in it did normal damage
instead of low damage
compact sedge
yes cyclone slash doesn't have Slash in the gameobject name
it's called Whirlwind iirc
copper nacelle
ironic
finite thistle
good meme
compact sedge
look the whole blackmoth damage thing is so silly and what's even sillier is the way I had to undo it
which is by effectively rewriting TC's damage calculation code
copper nacelle
add an instance var to blackmoth via pr and then unhook its hook
finite thistle
game keeps saying thee's a new version of debug available
compact sedge
but I'd be throwing away lots of good code I wrote
leaden hedge
do you even need an instance to remove other mods hooks
finite thistle
cant clone markoth anymore 
copper nacelle
no
compact sedge
like 3 hours of good code
compact sedge
oh wait no I can't do it @copper nacelle becuase if I unhook it sharp shadow will do normal damage
and I don't want to override the blackmoth sharp shadow dmg
copper nacelle
@rain cedar meme
finite thistle
wait so the enemy panel is just busted or
copper nacelle
lifeblood broke it
copper nacelle
dll i just attached has it fixed
rain cedar
I'm still gonna wait like a year to accept the pr
copper nacelle
re
finite thistle
maybe i'll finally get around to mantis gods too
leaden hedge
he has more important things to fix
copper nacelle
typos
leaden hedge
like random typos in the comments of modhooks
compact sedge
double multiplier = 1;
float fsmMultiplier = 1;
if (PlayerData.instance.GetBool("equippedCharm_25"))
{
multiplier *= 1.5;
}
if (PlayerData.instance.GetBool("equippedCharm_6") && PlayerData.instance.GetInt("health") == 1)
{
fsmMultiplier = 1.75f;
}
if (hitter.GameObject.name.Contains("Great"))
{
multiplier = 2.5 * fsmMultiplier;
fsmMultiplier = 1;
}
can I just point out I need two separate multipliers for nail damage in this stupid game.
compact sedge
because multiplier rounds nearest and fsmMultiplier is a float that always rounds down and applies AFTER the first mulitplier
and order of multipliers matters when you round
also notice how great slash doesn't use the fsmMultiplier for FotF but regular slash does
also I'm 85% sure you can substitute dash master for nailart master and still get the 1.75x bonus on great slash at 1 hp. but that might have been a blackmoth thing
and I swear to god if that second to last sentence is true I'm quitting HK modding
nvm I think the wiki is wrong and FotF always applies to greatslash
ok when I don't rotate the caps they appear inside the trail sprite
time to learn meshes
fuck
fuckkkkkkkkkkkk
I don't even know where to start
rain cedar
Look on the bright side
This game will always be better to mod than salt & sanctuary
Code for respawning the character in that
CharMgr.character[PlayerMgr.GetMainPlayer().charIdx].update.Respawn(PlayerMgr.GetMainPlayer());```TBH I could port redwing to almost any unity game.
so long as it had half-decent mod hooks
and a player with a transform I could use
ok @leaden hedge you know any good guides for learning this stuff because all I found was a reddit post with 1 vote, 2 answers one telling me to use a random asset store package and the other asking me why I would do that when I could just render the sprite directly
rain cedar
The wonders of looking up unity questions
leaden hedge
heres a guide on how to make a quad https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/Example-CreatingaBillboardPlane.html
leaden hedge
add 6 vertexes instead of 4
compact sedge
and 8 for a third one
leaden hedge
and add 2 extra tris
compact sedge
and the vertexes represent the size in game right?
leaden hedge
yeah the position of that vertex
compact sedge
and if I do all this it should also make my fire affected by the lighting of the scene, right?
leaden hedge
there is no lighting
leaden hedge
itd depend on the material though
buoyant obsidian
I think the blueness is just post processing
you can edit a lot of that
I remember making the saturation and lighting color crazy for a Shitmodst 2 concept
leaden hedge
it doesn't know what direction you want them
compact sedge
why would it matter
compact sedge
ok and I'm using meshfilter or meshrenderer or what
leaden hedge
also for more complex shapes it has no chance of guessing how your vertices are combined
its a meshrenderer you want
compact sedge
ok cuz tutorial uses meshfilter
opal hearth
compact sedge
ok so how to I tell my game to map the first x pixels of my texture2d to the first quad and the second x pixels to the second quad etc etc
that's where I'm lost
leaden hedge
the uv variable
compact sedge
ohh I see
so like this then?
uv = new Vector2[8]
{
new Vector2(0, 0),
new Vector2(0, 1),
new Vector2(leftCapWidthPercentage, 1),
new Vector2(leftCapWidthPercentage, 0),
new Vector2(leftCapWidthPercentage + middleWidthPercentage, 1),
new Vector2(leftCapWidthPercentage + middleWidthPercentage, 1),
new Vector2(1, 1),
new Vector2(1, 1)
}
yeah I guess that might work
compact sedge
there's no way this code is gonna work
I really hope it works tho because I have no idea how to debug it if not
ok nothing appeared but no exceptions
oh I forgot my triangles
flat forum
HMMM
compact sedge
I'm going to sleep. I'll figure this crap out tomorrow
compact sedge
Will do 
opal hearth
anyone know why the grass in the dream world is always at max volume even if in game volume is turned down?
leaden hedge
good code
opal hearth
good answer
rain cedar
External volume slider always
I don't trust a single program to obey its internal volumes
opal hearth
i suppose that isn't a terrible idea
rain cedar
I think dnspy can't actually handle nested switches
When I edit methods with those without touching the switch at all it's compiling them to non-equivalent if statements
rain cedar
The salt and sanctuary devs
The one I'm working with right now is
switch(num)
{
case 1:
case 2:
switch (num)
{
case 1:
//stuff
break;
case 2:
//stuff
break;
}
//stuff
break;
default:
//stuff
}```If I edit stuff in the same method it gets changed to some shit that makes no sense like this
if (num - 1 >= 1)
{
//stuff
}
else
{
//stuff
}```thats literally
if( num == 1 || num == 2 ){
if( num == 1)
//stuff
if(num == 2)
//stuff
} else {
//stuff
}
Yes that's what I've edited it to
leaden hedge
you can probably just do
if( num == 1 )
//stuff
else if ( num == 2 )
//stuff
else
//stuff
You're forgetting the stuff right after the nested switch
rain cedar
The best part about this game is it's not unity
The worst part is the devs like switches way too much
Also ternary
leaden hedge
I don't know how that got past the compiler
rain cedar
copper nacelle
wtf
rain cedar
There's everything wrong with ternary when you use it like that
leaden hedge
it was probably formatted better precompiler
vagrant leaf
thE FUCK DID THEY DO TO RANDO
rain cedar
Randomizer has goto
But only for explicit fallthroughs in switches
Also idk man that screenshot looks perfectly fine
leaden hedge
no
rain cedar
That's reactable
copper nacelle
requirements to beat game
vagrant leaf
ah
copper nacelle
how long can i go with it still being reactable
copper nacelle
.15 seconds felt like living death
leaden hedge
like .14
rain cedar
Make it 0 seconds
rain cedar
Reactable but only if instead of reacting you get lucky
leaden hedge
are you reacting to visual or audio stimuli
copper nacelle
both idk
rain cedar
Audio is easier
leaden hedge
.25s for visual .15s for audio
are in the comfy range for pretty much everyone on the planet
copper nacelle
so then i'll do like .2
vagrant leaf
enemy rando is fuck
copper nacelle
what
vagrant leaf
king's pass is just filled with husks but when i kill them crystal hunters come out
copper nacelle
nice
vagrant leaf
are enemies coming out of dead enemies normal things
leaden hedge
just look at startup on overheads on any professionally made fighting game to see how fast something should be to be reactable
rain cedar
It's turning a perfectly good string switch into this https://pastebin.com/Mwc7HH9m
Whatever the fuck that is
No way it works
leaden hedge
that will work
copper nacelle
wtf
rain cedar
Ok but readability of that is -20
leaden hedge
well yeah because its not supposed to be read
rain cedar
And it won't recompile because of the <PrivateImplementationDetails> thing
leaden hedge
its supposed to be fast
copper nacelle
jeez the difference between .2 and .18 is absurd
vagrant leaf
also do you have to restart game for enemy rando changes to not die
copper nacelle
wdym
vagrant leaf
if you mess with enemy rando settings
do you have to go back to title
and back in
vagrant leaf
it's making traitor lord noises
and when the traitor lord title card showed the scream effect came from that direcion
please fix
rain cedar
No
vagrant leaf
sad
rain cedar
If you just wait like 12-15 years for Kerr's dog to die he'll get back to modding
dusky lion
Alternatively assassinate Kerr and the dog will continue to make mods
The quality of the mods themselves I cannot guarantee
exotic dune
depends on which dog kerr has
undertale turned out alright
dusky lion
I hate to be a complete idiot but attempting to download the enemy types for Enemy Randomizer results in this. 56 says I simply don't have enough ram but he wants confirmation on that.
rain cedar
download 
dusky lion
wha t
copper nacelle
download the enemy types
copper nacelle
^
rain cedar
Really though 8 GB isn't enough anymore
I'm over 8 just with all my normal shit open
No games running
rain cedar
Show memory usage in task manager
rain cedar
Maybe you can allocate more to HK somehow
It's probably not using all that's available
Also wtf 93% disk
rain cedar
Very nice
dusky lion
After one computer crash Hollow Knight has the most priority for memory
Can confirm it did not work
Death is nigh
rain cedar
Guess you'll have to play other mods
ornate rivet
what's the difference between public void Start() and public override void Initialize()
opal hearth
uh so i just dreamnailed lurien, went and did that lil dream bit. and i'm stuck on a white screeb now
ornate rivet
ok thanks
rain cedar
@opal hearth That's a vanilla game bug
opal hearth
oh. fair enough, thanks
ornate rivet
how do I start a coroutine
I tried using StartCoroutine(some coroutine);
but because my class isn't a monospace it gives errors
also, are coroutines like threads in java?
leaden hedge
no
ornate rivet
ok then
leaden hedge
you need a monobehaviour to run a coroutine
just doing something like
GameObject go = new GameObject();
go.addComponent<MyComponent>();
and put your StartCoroutine in the Start() function of your MyComponent class
rain cedar
Yes
ornate rivet
ok thanks
rain cedar
You don't actually need a new class
I'm like 90% sure this works
new GameObject().AddComponent<MonoBehaviour>().StartCoroutine(stuff());
ok I'll try it
it says cannot implicitly convert unityengine.coroutine to unityengine.gameobject
rain cedar
Then don't try to store a coroutine in a gameobject
I'm assuming right now you have something like
GameObject thing = new GameObject().AddComponent<MonoBehaviour>().StartCoroutine(stuff());
tight swan
do i need to download "Scenes.rar" in the enemy randomizer thing
tight swan
and that is?
tight swan
ok i have both enemy randomizer and modcommon
solemn rivet
and the API
tight swan
ok done
solemn rivet
now sacrifice a goat to the gods
tight swan
how do i draw the pentagram
solemn rivet
tight swan
which animals' blood
tight swan
uhh k
compact sedge
idk that pins give good instructions on installing for mac
basically
right click on the hollow_knight.app
and there's some folder in there that has assembly-csharp.dll in there
in that folder copy your new assembly-csharp (overwriting the old one) and also the mods folder
solemn rivet
oh mac
solemn rivet
yeah, it's not that hard to find
check every Managed folder
one of them is the right one
tight swan
can't find it
tight swan
just left
tight swan
not on it
tight swan
1.3.1.5 Mac OS
tight swan
uh k
solemn rivet
wut
compact sedge
wyza's silly
the mac and linux ones are out of date
by a lot
and the assemblies are identical
it's just the folder structure difference
actually that's not quite true
the assemblies are slightly different which causes a few bugs on mac and linux lifeblood stable
but on lifeblood beta they're the same
100%
tight swan
ok i got the windows one
tight swan
yes
compact sedge
ok so in Contents-> Resources -> Data -> Managed
put the modding api assembly and make a folder called Mods
capital M
tight swan
ok found it
hazy sentinel
step 1 for Mac modding is to install windows
compact sedge
misspelled linux
tight swan
where do i put the Mods folder
compact sedge
inside Managed
hank you
mystic phoenix
i can;t get debug to work and i'm not 100% sure what i'm doing wrong
solemn rivet
did you install everything correctly?
which game version are you running?
do you have API installed?
does the game launch?
so many questions, so little time
mystic phoenix
the debug menu shows up i just dont know how to affect it
solemn rivet
how's gdq mick?
mystic phoenix
i hid it by hitting the hide menu button
young walrus
Pretty good. This is probably My favorite venue I've been to for it
solemn rivet
nice
mystic phoenix
and f1 doesnt do stuff in game on my laptop
solemn rivet
fn+f1?
copper nacelle
^
young walrus
Have to hold down fn to actually press f1
Otherwise you're doing brightness of the screen or some shit
solemn rivet
mine's volume control
copper nacelle
mine's 1
mystic phoenix
ok got it
mine opens the bing search for how to get help in windows 10
(the first hornet fight had just started being frustrating so i wanted to use debug and make myself op and then make myself. not op anymore)
solemn rivet
oh boi
tight swan
to uninstall the mods i just need to delete the mods folder and the assembly?
tight swan
oh k
copper nacelle
or if you backed up the original assembly-csharp just swap that out
which lets you swap between unmodded and modded p fast
tight swan
kk thx
clever latch
Hey guys. Looking to get into modding hk. Any tips? I want to be able to equip as many charms as i want for fun
exotic venture
you don't need to mod anything for that
rain cedar
Use a save editor to set your notches really high
exotic venture
you can just grab a savefile editor
or set notch cost to every charm to 0
of* every charm
copper nacelle
clever latch
Tyvm
compact sedge
ok assuming distanceMoved is the right value and gets larget over time, why doesn't this code run every frame make my mesh longer?
memeFilter.mesh.vertices[4] = new Vector3(capWidth + distanceMoved, capHeight, 0.01f);
memeFilter.mesh.vertices[5] = new Vector3(capWidth + distanceMoved, capHeight, 0.01f);
memeFilter.mesh.vertices[6] = new Vector3(capWidth + distanceMoved, capHeight, 0.01f);
memeFilter.mesh.vertices[7] = new Vector3(capWidth + distanceMoved, capHeight, 0.01f);
also how come I can't change the opacity of the mesh with
c.a = ALPHA
memeRenderer.material.color = c
I really have no idea wtf I'm doing
maybe I shouldn't be listening to kdt
leaden hedge
your material probably ignores alpha
compact sedge
idk what shaders exist so I'm using Particles/Additive
and I have a texture set
and idk where to tell it to not ignore alpha
but the elephant in the room is it doesn't grow like it's supposed to
my UV is (should be) set properly. And I drew out my vector on paper and my traingles look right too
leaden hedge
mesh.Clear();
compact sedge
assuming triangles is a int array where each 3 ints refer to the indexes of verticies
leaden hedge
yes they are
compact sedge
does Clear() mean I need to recreate the whole mesh
even if only some things change
leaden hedge
yes
compact sedge
what if I just create a new one
leaden hedge
although you can just make a backup
compact sedge
with the object allocator
leaden hedge
probably pretty slow to do everyframe
compact sedge
how is it any faster to use clear
object allocator is faster than setting the values by hand
leaden hedge
oh you might not need to call Clear
compact sedge
in fact that doesn't help
leaden hedge
just doing
memeFilter.mesh.vertices = new []{
memeFilter.mesh[0],
memeFilter.mesh[1],
memeFilter.mesh[2],
memeFilter.mesh[3],
new Vector3(capWidth + distanceMoved, capHeight, 0.01f),
new Vector3(capWidth + distanceMoved, capHeight, 0.01f),
new Vector3(capWidth + distanceMoved, capHeight, 0.01f),
new Vector3(capWidth + distanceMoved, capHeight, 0.01f)
};
should work
compact sedge
well even doing the clear thing it didn't fix the problem
leaden hedge
well Clear is for triangles apparently
the issue is you need a new mesh
well new set of vertices
compact sedge
yeah well ofc that's not helping either because as I said even using clear didn't fix it
leaden hedge
clear isn't for vertexes 🤔
its for triangles
unless you remade the entire mesh
inwhich case your distanceMoved is probably wrong
compact sedge
even remaking the entire mesh broke it
and distanceMoved is correct I tried logging it
I'm probably doing something wrong somewhere else
but idk what
leaden hedge
well whats it doing
compact sedge
uh would you mind looking at my code? It's getting the distanceMoved by looking at the knight transform while you're dashing
https://github.com/natis1/redwing/blob/master/redwing/redwing_trail_behaviors.cs#L100
and here: https://github.com/natis1/redwing/blob/master/redwing/redwing_trail_behaviors.cs#L72
ok it can def be cleaned up a lot
but I'm just trying to get it to work 100% first
leaden hedge
well that definitely won't work or even compile atm
compact sedge
oh it compiles
leaden hedge
146 has you setting a mesh to an object that doesn't exist
compact sedge
but it doesn't work
leaden hedge
unless Mesh m is a global var
compact sedge
oh right I forgot to comment that out
lol let me git push
sorry try refreshing it
compact sedge
thanks cuz I really don't know what I'm doing especially in regards to using unity for testing/developing this stuff.
leaden hedge
your code for resizing the mesh should work fine https://gfycat.com/ScentedSoulfulAmphiuma
I assume one of two things, your code to resize it isn't being ran, or your calculations are wrong
compact sedge
well probably the latter because it says it's being run
leaden hedge
compact sedge
woah what are those knight sprites on the bottom right
leaden hedge
heres the code for that
compact sedge
to the left of the nail slashes
leaden hedge
thorns?
leaden hedge
depends on which point you're looking at
theres thorn sprites, shade soul sprites and ending cutscene sprites
compact sedge
are the triangles right
leaden hedge
yes
compact sedge
ok
leaden hedge
well they seem right
compact sedge
I had to draw out the mesh on paper
compact sedge
uhh
leaden hedge
well actually with particle unlit you would because thats 2 way
leaden hedge
but literally any other it'd be backwards
does the right cap appear in the right spot?
compact sedge
I haven't added the right cap yet
leaden hedge
have you tried just loading a white texture
compact sedge
oh god I think you're on to something
no wonder my texture angle is 90 degrees wrong
I probably copied the xs to ys
or something
uhh well that part looks right
hmm
compact sedge
meme
ok
idk what tris are supposed to look like
as in what the proper order is
for them
which one should the first, second, and third thing be
for an arbitrary triangle t
leaden hedge
triangles = new int[] {
0, 1, 2,
0, 2, 3,
1, 2, 4,
5, 4, 1,
4, 5, 6,
6, 7, 5
}
ok I can try that
compact sedge
well it sorta works slightly better than before
leaden hedge
vertices = new Vector3[]
{
new Vector3(0, 0, 0.01f),
new Vector3(x1, 0, 0.01f),
new Vector3(x1, y1, 0.01f),
new Vector3(0, y1, 0.01f),
new Vector3(x1, y1, 0.01f),
new Vector3(x1, y1, 0.01f),
new Vector3(x1, y1, 0.01f),
new Vector3(x1, y1, 0.01f)
},
uv = new Vector2[8]
{
new Vector2(0, 0),
new Vector2(.4f, 0),
new Vector2(.4f, 1),
new Vector2(0, 1),
new Vector2(.6f, 1),
new Vector2(.6f, 0),
new Vector2(1, 1),
new Vector2(1, 0)
},
triangles = new int[] {
2, 1, 0,
3, 2, 0,
1, 4, 5,
1, 2, 4,
6, 7, 5,
6, 5, 4,
}
???
maybe something like this
leaden hedge
yeah although it definitely shouldn't be that small
the center should only be one pixel wide
compact sedge
wha
leaden hedge
your central texture is identical along its length
and it'll just get stretched
so no reason for it to be more than one pixel
compact sedge
my texture is split up like this:
first 150 px of width is my left side
middle 1800 px of width is the middle part
last 150 px of width is my right side
since I thought I needed to merge the caps and middle into one texture
compact sedge
yes but the column isn't perfectly identical
it is right now for basic testing
but the column is procedurally generated
like everything else
with slightly varying colors and opacities
for some uniqueness
leaden hedge
well anyway this works for my texture https://pastebin.com/raw/Tgh9Hqz2
compact sedge
leaden hedge
your alpha colour should work btw
compact sedge
it doesn't show the end cap or the other part
leaden hedge
ok weird