archived-modding-development

[opaque nest]

Ok that's not bad.

[floral furnace]

Geo Lootbox mod

[exotic venture]

753 please

[floral furnace]

buy it from sly

[leaden hedge]

you need to set up masks for each layer

and write a shader

[exotic venture]

hollow knight pay to win edition

[buoyant obsidian]

I actually know how to write shaders lol

[leaden hedge]

im too lazy, thats like atleast 2 hours of work

[exotic venture]

sly amassed every fuckin charm in existence and will only sell the shitty charms before selling the good ones

[compact sedge]

darn you can't actually just set the color floats to -1 to get an inverse knight

worth a shot

[floral furnace]

buy 4.99 to buy cherry bucks or pay hollow knight 1 month premium for 14.99

[compact sedge]

just sets them to 0 trying to do that

[buoyant obsidian]

invert color shader e z

[compact sedge]

how do you do shaders tho

in all seriousness I have no idea where to even start

[leaden hedge]

you need to make them in unity and compile them into an assetbundle

[buoyant obsidian]

I wouldn't know how to do shader replacement through code, but if you're actually working with shaders in Unity your best bet might be to download them off of github or outside sources

[leaden hedge]

im sure you can compile them from a string but thats effort

[buoyant obsidian]

Shaders have really specific language that's only useful for shaders so it's a real pain to work with them

and the documentation isn't all there

[leaden hedge]

once you load it you can just set a sprites material to the one with your shader

[compact sedge]

well it's not negaknight but it does look mildly cool

[buoyant obsidian]

What's that orange ring?

[opaque nest]

Huh, neat.

[compact sedge]

that's part of the mod I'm working on

[buoyant obsidian]

oooh

[leaden hedge]

glsl is weird though

if you really can't code you can use shaderforge

which is free now

although its not great at making unorthodox effects

[buoyant obsidian]

Depending on what you're doing though your best bet would be commissioning a shader or finding one that already exists

[leaden hedge]

what are we evening doing

inverting something is just a pixel shader

[compact sedge]

I'd only commission something if the end result let me easily change it to an arbitrary color at runtime.

Not just buy a premade shader making the cloak color x

[opaque nest]

Sounds like we're just spit-balling ideas?

[slow shard]

is there a updated version of lightbringer or does the older version work?

[solemn rivet]

no²

[compact sedge]

the older version works... if you downpatch... so no

[solemn rivet]

56/753 were working on porting lightbringer to lifeblood

[leaden hedge]

i mean if you work on drawing nice white circles on areas you want to be recoloured

and ensuring everything else is black

[copper nacelle]

it’s basically done

it just doesn’t have assets and charm descriptions

everything else works

[compact sedge]

oh that's the easy part

[copper nacelle]

ik

[compact sedge]

release lightbringer lifeblood before tomorrow?

wow grammar hard

[copper nacelle]

it’s 10:09 pm

ree

maybe

[solemn rivet]

you have like 2 hrs

ez

[copper nacelle]

but I also need to fix my discord bot to allow music on multiple servers at once

which should be an easy fix

[solemn rivet]

priorities man

[copper nacelle]

but also nothing is ever easy

[compact sedge]

I mean a bunch of people are gonna wanna play lightbringer in the next few minutes thanks to that silly youtube video

[solemn rivet]

well

not that much

only one has come here tho

[copper nacelle]

re

i'll work on it in like

5 minutes

cause that's how long it should take me to finish the bot

[buoyant obsidian]

Silly YouTube video?

[warped sinew]

Someone in #art would probably be keen to do a good recolour of the knights sprite sheet

[gloomy pine]

the youtube video i literally just watched 20 seconds ago?

[solemn rivet]

prolly

[copper nacelle]

probably

[opaque nest]

Take your time.

[buoyant obsidian]

There's like 5000 sprites

[warped sinew]

Would it be a simple swap to mod it in?

[buoyant obsidian]

who in #art is a masochist

[solemn rivet]

753: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=39&v=heYi-MVwOu4

not at all, Graig

[leaden hedge]

recolouring it would be easy

[compact sedge]

I'm not interested in a good recolor graig I'm interested in arbitrary runtime recolors of different parts of the knight

[warped sinew]

Lol ok

[leaden hedge]

and modding it in would take seconds

but thats not the question

[compact sedge]

so like recolor the cloak helmet and nail all separately ideally

[solemn rivet]

recolor the knight's sprite - ezpz

add recolor options to change during runtime - hard

[leaden hedge]

recolour every single possible combination

its not even hard

[copper nacelle]

and then bundle all the assets ez

[leaden hedge]

its just like 2 hours of work

[copper nacelle]

how to get avenging angle to hate you fast

[compact sedge]

lul

what if I just generate every possible sprite of the same width and height of the knight at runtime and store them all in ram.

[opaque nest]

wow

[solemn rivet]

wut

why

[opaque nest]

That just sounds ridiculous.

[compact sedge]

should only take, about 3 universes of ram worth to store

[warped sinew]

Ez

[compact sedge]

and 3000 universes of computing power to generate

[copper nacelle]

sounds good

[leaden hedge]

hey I did something dumber in mugen

[solemn rivet]

mugen

oh god

[leaden hedge]

i wanted custom colour selection for every part of the sprite

[warped sinew]

That's a name I haven't heard in a long time

[solemn rivet]

and I thought I was old

[leaden hedge]

long story short 65536 palettes

[opaque nest]

wow

[solemn rivet]

u w0t m8

[compact sedge]

not enough

missing about 2 million possible colors

[leaden hedge]

well mugen uses shorts

[compact sedge]

you don't know

[leaden hedge]

so I can't physically put more than 65536 palletes in

[compact sedge]

I'm disgusted they let you have that many

[leaden hedge]

I actually had to write my own editor because Fight Factory uses signed shorts

and would crash

at 32k

[compact sedge]

wtf X2

couldn't you have just said "meh, 32k is enough"

[leaden hedge]

i did a lot of dumb shit with that engine lol

made a tetris ai

made a working utsuho cape

but no

32k isn't enough

[gloomy pine]

i have nothing but respect for you mad bastards

[leaden hedge]

when you write your own editor to get over the limitations of the most popular one, engine limits are the limits

[warped sinew]

Just make mugenKDT

why even use their engine :p

[leaden hedge]

I have a unity implementation of mugen somewhere

[solemn rivet]

BlackSteelKita was the video I linked the same one you had just watched?

[gloomy pine]

where?

[buoyant obsidian]

That video was pretty neat

[solemn rivet]

scroll up a bit

we collectively reee'd, 753

[gloomy pine]

yes

[solemn rivet]

as you can see by the video's comments

[gloomy pine]

first like 3 comments were ripping on the dude for getting shit wrong and using unrelated video

[solemn rivet]

that's us, alright

[young walrus]

Remember the time he said an accurate statement? Me neither

[copper nacelle]

^

[solemn rivet]

savage

best part is, Mick and Mys aren't even modders

[young walrus]

Hey. I've helped

[gloomy pine]

reminds me of all the youtubers riding digital extremes dong with warframe, just telling straight up lies for views

[solemn rivet]

at least room rando will be yours

[young walrus]

But you're right. That's why I'm not green

[solemn rivet]

the green dream is not so far, my friend

[gloomy pine]

you're blue, dah boo de dah boo dah

[warped sinew]

What video are you guys talking about lol

[copper nacelle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=39&v=heYi-MVwOu4

[young walrus]

I'd much rather be a QA tester

[solemn rivet]

56

[warped sinew]

Thx

[solemn rivet]

you're a ninja, I swear

ffs

[young walrus]

And bingo writer

[leaden hedge]

but this game has no QA

[copper nacelle]

Bonfire, Glass Soul, Debug, Rando, Lightbringer

[compact sedge]

spoliers

[copper nacelle]

also they showed no footage of glass soul and rando

[young walrus]

But guys.... Debug mod can spawn whatever, whenever

[copper nacelle]

[compact sedge]

I wonder how many lurkers from that video have come here to see people trash talking it

and just thought: Screw those guys, this person is my favorite youtuber

[gloomy pine]

so do i just shove all the zip files in the APIs mod folder?

[copper nacelle]

please

i beg of thee

use the fucking installer

https://gitlab.com/gradow/ModInstaller/uploads/100f494bf4112f2fb029db2bef94e0f4/ModInstaller.exe

[young walrus]

[warped sinew]

That someone programmed. Lol is it really that hard to just credit people

This video

Lul

[solemn rivet]

inorite

also

[opaque nest]

I just came to checkout the Hollow Knight modding scene.

[young walrus]

Yes it is graig

[solemn rivet]

why u no give us a shoutout when you go to AGDQ Mick?

[copper nacelle]

play mantis gods™

[solemn rivet]

y u hate us

[opaque nest]

Didn't even see the vid till just now.

[compact sedge]

can I just point out a depressingly small number of people know about this

you can reliably get 250 downloads making a mod about anything if it's on moddb

[copper nacelle]

i mean if everyone agrees just throw the installer on moddb like you said

[young walrus]

I shouted out the whole discord

[gloomy pine]

didn't even know hollow knight was being modded before a few minutes ago... anyone doing Salt and Sanctuary? that game needs a couple Nerf Bats...

[young walrus]

So....

[solemn rivet]

not enough

mick hates mods confirmed

[young walrus]

Right. Cuz this is the salt and sanctuary discord.

[copper nacelle]

mick => tc ez

[young walrus]

KEEPO

[buoyant obsidian]

If you want downloads just make cheats

people eat cheats up

[copper nacelle]

hk invulnerability mod has like 500 downloads

[compact sedge]

there's an invulnerable knight mod

probably made in 12 seconds

[copper nacelle]

makes me want to die

[compact sedge]

without any of the API or useful tools

go post ur mum gay on moddb imo

[leaden hedge]

if player take damage: don't

[copper nacelle]

tbh

[solemn rivet]

sounds like something 56 would do

[copper nacelle]

it'd probably get downloads

i'm very much considering it

[compact sedge]

see if ur mum gay can get more downloads than invulnerable knight mod

[copper nacelle]

yes

i'll just do it in dnspy real fast

[gloomy pine]

where do i go to find out what all these mods do, some of the names are... less than helpful.

[buoyant obsidian]

Glass Soul was if player takes damage, health = 0 lol

[young walrus]

Readme files

[solemn rivet]

they have readmes, BlackSteelKita

[copper nacelle]

open them in notepad ez

[buoyant obsidian]

Randomizer is pretty self explanatory and also one of the mods I'd recommend to most players

[copper nacelle]

^

[solemn rivet]

^

[compact sedge]

really? Doesn't glass soul at least give you 1 mask?

[solemn rivet]

also boss rush if you're not on lifeblood

[leaden hedge]

randomizer more like downpatch and play boss rush

[gloomy pine]

the only games i have ever modded myself are bethesda games so actually having to do work is weird

[buoyant obsidian]

Boss Rush more like wait a month for Boss Rush

[copper nacelle]

installer™

[opaque nest]

But randomizer won't randomize key pickups, right?

[compact sedge]

or did you just hack the mask sprite

[copper nacelle]

no it doesn't rando keys

[young walrus]

Copy paste is work

[copper nacelle]

charms and skills

[buoyant obsidian]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SktnJuocqM

[solemn rivet]

rando2 will rando keys tho

[buoyant obsidian]

There's a Lightbringer trailer

[young walrus]

Yes key pickups are random

[buoyant obsidian]

but you gotta downpatch for Lightbringer

[copper nacelle]

not for long

[young walrus]

Like movement

[solemn rivet]

I remember when TC shared lightbringer on twitter

[copper nacelle]

[buoyant obsidian]

56 bless your soul

[compact sedge]

oh god trailers for mods. what an amazing idea

[copper nacelle]

trailors

[compact sedge]

shit

[solemn rivet]

and I contacted 753 on reddit

and he sent me here

[opaque nest]

Oh gosh. If it randomizes key boss rewards like the dash then that would be painful..

[solemn rivet]

it does, Kurogiri

[copper nacelle]

it does

that's the fun part

[young walrus]

That's the whole point....

[solemn rivet]

but it has logic to make progression always possible

[compact sedge]

ok I need to stop being lazy and get back to making fire dash. later y'all

[opaque nest]

Ah alright then.

[copper nacelle]

wait before you leave

[compact sedge]

yeah

[copper nacelle]

how tf do you upload to moddb

[compact sedge]

uhhh idk

[buoyant obsidian]

I need to stop being lazy and be 56

[compact sedge]

ask 753

[solemn rivet]

it's a nightmare

[compact sedge]

only person who knows how

[solemn rivet]

blackmoth is there too imo

[opaque nest]

Cause otherwise I wasn't sure how progression could happen if like.. You didn't get Vengeful Spirit from the Snail Shaman.

[compact sedge]

really outdated blackmoth

[copper nacelle]

help thanks

[solemn rivet]

yeah

[buoyant obsidian]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/add

[solemn rivet]

1.0.0.8

iirc

[copper nacelle]

thanks

[buoyant obsidian]

Releasing on moddb is kinda complicated

[solemn rivet]

Kurogiri: you could have lots of things that kill elder baldurs at that point

[buoyant obsidian]

you gotta like set the release date and then edit it to already release or some shit if I remember correctly

[solemn rivet]

or you could go to CoT

[buoyant obsidian]

otherwise it'll be in limbo

[copper nacelle]

huh

ok

[solemn rivet]

lots of paths tbh

[opaque nest]

Also true. Alright.

[solemn rivet]

if you play on easy tho you won't need to worry too much

but hard is where the fun lies

[opaque nest]

Steel Soul Rando

Sounds sick.

[young walrus]

Have you ever climbed crystal peak without claw? Well with randomizer, YOU CAN

[warped sinew]

Lightbringer is not overpowered if you actually play it from the start, this video smh

[solemn rivet]

just don't do Hard Steel Soul Rando

cus shade skip

[copper nacelle]

you start out weak but get op pretty fast imo

[buoyant obsidian]

Lightbringer does have some pacing issues though

[young walrus]

Steel soul rando is boring

[buoyant obsidian]

you start really weak ever since Empress Muzznik was made

[solemn rivet]

Lightbringer is how I found out that you can stunlock FK

[young walrus]

No shade skips? Pfft

[buoyant obsidian]

but then once you get to bosses and have quickslash it's over

[copper nacelle]

just do 1500 damage to a 9999 health minion spawning gruz mother

ez

also smh not changing any of gruz mother's animations to be faster

[solemn rivet]

inb4 infinite muzznik

[copper nacelle]

avenging angle is making a component which makes any enemy infinite

so that'd work

[solemn rivet]

yup

[opaque nest]

I honestly like the idea of Lightbringer on the premise of a more spell-oriented playstyle. Cause right now the only way to generate soul without your nail is with the dream nail or Grubsong. Or like Weaversong with Grubsong

[buoyant obsidian]

Empress Muzznik was made with so little enemy behavior knowledge

[opaque nest]

Plus Kingsoul costs 5 notches and is meant to be traded in..

[buoyant obsidian]

I'm still salty about losing Kingsoul

[solemn rivet]

Kurogiri, I honestly recommend giving most mods a try

[copper nacelle]

it has a really cool spell charm

[solemn rivet]

there are so many interesting things there

[copper nacelle]

nail becomes fireball and such

try mantis gods™

[solemn rivet]

and NGG

[leaden hedge]

just play ngg

[solemn rivet]

if u masochist

[copper nacelle]

where tf is the language get

[solemn rivet]

Language.Language

[copper nacelle]

ty

[opaque nest]

I'd definitely like to try Lightbringer & randomizer sometime tbh.

[warped sinew]

I'll give you 10 cherrybux if you can get to the second stage of NGG @opaque nest

[leaden hedge]

also here is that mugen thing I was talking about https://gfycat.com/JauntyReliableElver

[solemn rivet]

how much is that in geo, Graig?

wtf KDT

[warped sinew]

A lot

[copper nacelle]

how much health is it for 2nd stage ngg

[leaden hedge]

800

[opaque nest]

I loved fighting Grimm both times. I'd give it a try.

[leaden hedge]

can I get my 10 cherrybux btw

[solemn rivet]

oh no

[copper nacelle]

graig if i do it can i get 10 cherrybux

cause i'll go try rn

[solemn rivet]

please play infinitegrimm before ngg

or else u gon die

[leaden hedge]

get 10k on hard+ imo

[opaque nest]

I'd do both; no reason not to.

[leaden hedge]

well you have to do inf grimm anyway

[solemn rivet]

I can barely get 3k in hard+ starting at max speed

[warped sinew]

Surely its more than 800? I didn't get to second stage and I swear I did more than 800

[leaden hedge]

cause ngg is in infgrimm

[warped sinew]

I guess not lol

[leaden hedge]

its 800/1600/2400/3200

in inf grimm there is a damage counter

[warped sinew]

Oh I meant like the second part where the spikes go away

[leaden hedge]

oh

[copper nacelle]

ez

[leaden hedge]

final phase

is 2400

[warped sinew]

yer I got to third phase

Never to final, maybe I'll try again heh

Its both fun and not fun at the same time

[solemn rivet]

no rando race in this year's sgdq

[leaden hedge]

whens charm rebalance mod tbh

[solemn rivet]

charm rebalance?

[copper nacelle]

Charming

[solemn rivet]

^

[copper nacelle]

wayward compass has a cool on screen map

gathering swarm is actually good

heavy blow is too good

[solemn rivet]

I honestly can't believe sean had so little trouble implementing my suggestions

[copper nacelle]

cool it works

now to release on moddb

[warped sinew]

Can one of you lovely boiz make a charm balance mod that spits out one of those editable jsons so I can rebalance the game? Thanks in advance 👀

[copper nacelle]

and get more downloads than lightbringer

[solemn rivet]

I thought the compass charm for sure would be hard as balls to implement

[copper nacelle]

yeah same

[pearl cloak]

Hi! Where do I find the Bonfire mod? It said to go here to get it

[solemn rivet]

and sean made it in like 3h tops

[copper nacelle]

Check Pins @pearl cloak

[buoyant obsidian]

56 are you ripping off Shitmodst

[copper nacelle]

Download an installer

no i'm beating it

i was considering adding it to QoL but starting out disabled

[solemn rivet]

also, you're forgetting something, 753

[leaden hedge]

you need to do what boss rush does

[solemn rivet]

ur mom gay >> shitmodst

[leaden hedge]

and make the game modes "better than lightbringer"

[pearl cloak]

Thanks!

[buoyant obsidian]

How dare you

[solemn rivet]

btw

that whomst shitmodst stream today

so good

[buoyant obsidian]

He streamed Shitmodst?

[solemn rivet]

well

shitmodst 4, I believe

[buoyant obsidian]

???

[copper nacelle]

yeah

[leaden hedge]

when is shitmodst 69

[copper nacelle]

sean's shitmodst 4

[solemn rivet]

[copper nacelle]

have you not seen it

it's beautiful

[buoyant obsidian]

Sean made a shitmodst what

link me immediately

[solemn rivet]

not "a"

3 of em

[copper nacelle]

@buoyant obsidian https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/327461802311155714/458030137578094623/unknown.png

[buoyant obsidian]

WAIt what

[exotic dune]

not worth it unless you can run all shitmodst at once tbh

[exotic venture]

i need these shitmodsts

[leaden hedge]

not shitty enough

[exotic venture]

where is the play lightbringer text that appears when you jump

[copper nacelle]

shitmodst 4 is an asset randomizer

better yet

[buoyant obsidian]

Oooh that's cool

[copper nacelle]

you are a wall

and the wall moves when you jump

[solemn rivet]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/274463673 vod

[copper nacelle]

because you are the wall

[exotic venture]

THE WALL

[buoyant obsidian]

I really wanted to make one of those but I didn't know enough about asset replacement back then

[leaden hedge]

just play darkmod and you can pretend the assets are randomized

[solemn rivet]

that thumbnail tho

[leaden hedge]

no

[exotic venture]

name cannot contain numbers

[copper nacelle]

delet this

[solemn rivet]

fifty🅱ix

[leaden hedge]

someone should make a mod with online co-op between the knight and hornet and it should add 6 new regions with 69 new bosses

also the bosses should include new hand drawn sprites

[solemn rivet]

right?! how come no one has done that yet

[exotic venture]

will you draw them kdt

[solemn rivet]

those lazy modders

[leaden hedge]

yes if you don't care about quality

[buoyant obsidian]

where are the new levels and bosses

lazy modders tbh

[copper nacelle]

why tf do you need 5 images

[leaden hedge]

i implemented a new boss FeelsBadMan

[copper nacelle]

release it when

[solemn rivet]

like I said

nightmare

[leaden hedge]

when I make better

[solemn rivet]

KDT you implemented a pre-existent boss from another game

[copper nacelle]

beta when

[solemn rivet]

inb4 the new boss is called FSM

[copper nacelle]

yes

[solemn rivet]

and it's just a pile of shit

[exotic venture]

does it spawn two of the same boss when you kill it?

[leaden hedge]

all of the above

[exotic venture]

amazing

[pearl cloak]

Hi! So, I know that probably you can't help me, but in case you can I will ask. I have a problem with the Bonfire mod, upon launch the game produces a black screen. Do you have any idea how to fix it?

Once again, sorry if I shouldn't have asked.

[solemn rivet]

which version of the game are you on?

did you use an installer?

[pearl cloak]

No

I just copied the files

[copper nacelle]

bonfire has some requirements that come w/ it

use an installer

it installs everything for you

[solemn rivet]

it does?

[pearl cloak]

Where can I find an installer?

[copper nacelle]

pins

[solemn rivet]

I don't know what my own mods require

[copper nacelle]

API

[pearl cloak]

I only found the files on google drive

[leaden hedge]

here is beta artwork of the fsm boss

[exotic venture]

man if only we had a pin for pins

[copper nacelle]

https://gitlab.com/gradow/ModInstaller/uploads/100f494bf4112f2fb029db2bef94e0f4/ModInstaller.exe

gotta scroll down a bit

[solemn rivet]

leaks

[exotic venture]

is this gods and glory

[leaden hedge]

this is gods

[exotic venture]

finally

[solemn rivet]

no this is patrick

[pearl cloak]

Thanks!

[copper nacelle]

yw

ok nearly have all 5 images

[leaden hedge]

hmm I should actually make a meme fsm boss

[copper nacelle]

Y E S

[solemn rivet]

YES

[leaden hedge]

who mainly slows down the game

[solemn rivet]

please do

and it's like a slime

it takes no damage

and divides

and breaks your shit

[leaden hedge]

but how kill

[solemn rivet]

and gives you nothing useful when beaten

make it take 1 damage per hit

regardless of the type of damage

and have like

69k hp

[leaden hedge]

so fluke it twice

[solemn rivet]

pretty much

[copper nacelle]

just make it lifeblood only

ez

[leaden hedge]

number of flukes didn't change

[copper nacelle]

ah

[solemn rivet]

also make it not give soul on hit

oh god

it's almost as bad as an actual fsm

[copper nacelle]

make it hurt you when you hit it

holy shit

[solemn rivet]

and it recovers HP once once it gets <50%

YES

[copper nacelle]

@buoyant obsidian coming for those lightbringer downloads

[compact sedge]

omg

you actually did it

[buoyant obsidian]

what does it even do

[solemn rivet]

all text = ur mom gay

[buoyant obsidian]

I fucking knew it

[copper nacelle]

took longer to take the pictures than to make it

[compact sedge]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/ur-mum-gay/downloads

no files

[copper nacelle]

whoops

[buoyant obsidian]

lmao

[compact sedge]

I wanna download it once just to increment the counter

[leaden hedge]

ur family tree lgbt

you forgot that one

[copper nacelle]

You cannot select a .dll file

[solemn rivet]

I'll make a script to download it every 69 seconds

[copper nacelle]

reeee

[pearl cloak]

Well, it's me again. Now there is no blackscreen, but before the main menu is shown the game quits with an error message.

[solemn rivet]

zip it boi

[copper nacelle]

yeah ik

I'll add a readme too

[solemn rivet]

ramzes: which game version are you on?

[pearl cloak]

The newest one

[solemn rivet]

beta?

[pearl cloak]

No

[solemn rivet]

weird

[pearl cloak]

I will try reinstalling

[solemn rivet]

no

go to your saves folder

send modlog.txt

also, go to hollow_knight_Data in the installation folder and send output_log.txt

[pearl cloak]

Well, I did that and now it works... Weird

Well, thanks for your help anyway

Now I can enjoy the mod 😃

[solemn rivet]

gr8!

have fun!

don't worry about the btc mining that was installed together with the installer

[copper nacelle]

added a download

@compact sedge

[solemn rivet]

dl'd it

[copper nacelle]

yes

[compact sedge]

same

dunno how long the downloads counter takes to go up

[copper nacelle]

it's at 3 now

one was me

[solemn rivet]

r e³

[compact sedge]

it's now the ONLY non-outdated mod

just saying

on the entire moddb it's the only one that works on lifeblood

[copper nacelle]

invulnerability mod

holy shit

moddb's front page is just most recent

so mine is at the top

[compact sedge]

invulerability mod is ded

[copper nacelle]

?

[compact sedge]

oh wait no it isn't but it doesn't appear in the mods section

wow

this website sucks

[exotic venture]

and you just noticed that?

[floral furnace]

Nexus is better anyway

[leaden hedge]

nah

nexus started doing some weird shit like enforcing accounts for all downloads

probably to collect and sell emails

[floral furnace]

Ooof, havent used it for a while so i wouldnt know

[solemn rivet]

steam workshop or rito

[copper nacelle]

rito

[floral furnace]

Steam Workshop auto updates tho

[compact sedge]

I have a small sneaking worry that invulnerability mod bundles modding api.

[floral furnace]

which sometimes fucks over your save files

[compact sedge]

I'm actually 65% sure of it

[solemn rivet]

oh no

let's do it

[compact sedge]

someone use dnspy to check it out

but

[copper nacelle]

give link imo

i'll check

[compact sedge]

https://www.moddb.com/games/hollow-knight/downloads/hollow-knight-invulnerability-1315

[floral furnace]

Casul Mod

[copper nacelle]

ree downloading this gives them another download

in the README

FOR MODDERS

To recreate the effects of this mod, edit HeroBox.CheckForDamage() and delete the lines that start with "this.heroCtrl.TakeDamage"

[solemn rivet]

dl'd it too

opening it

it's not, AA

[compact sedge]

ok

[solemn rivet]

it's the vanilla assembly

[compact sedge]

ty

[copper nacelle]

meme

[solemn rivet]

no modding

[copper nacelle]

oh no

it kept my file names

[solemn rivet]

I don't see a problem

also, who the hell is making that invul mod

is there intelligent life outside of this server?

[copper nacelle]

no

that's why they made an invulnerability mod

[rain cedar]

PlayerData.instance.isInvincible = true

Big think

Hard mod to make

[solemn rivet]

well, that's apparently wrong, sean

[copper nacelle]

instead of doing that they did

FOR MODDERS

To recreate the effects of this mod, edit HeroBox.CheckForDamage() and delete the lines that start with "this.heroCtrl.TakeDamage"

[solemn rivet]

^

bigthink

[rain cedar]

Or just put return at the start of the function

[solemn rivet]

inorite

[rain cedar]

This guy is a script kiddie

[solemn rivet]

I had a look at the method

he literally could've done it a thousand other (better) ways

he even kept the shade cloak's ability to dash through stuff

for some reason

anyway

mys getting backlash for his comment

[scenic slate]

I guess u could say mys really forged an argument

[floral furnace]

Mys commented on the invuln mod?

[copper nacelle]

no

on the video

[floral furnace]

oh i see

[solemn rivet]

Gradow joins the fight

[copper nacelle]

same

[floral furnace]

56 self promoting smh

[copper nacelle]

[solemn rivet]

can I like your comment lik 69 times?

[copper nacelle]

yes feel free to

[compact sedge]

hey I have a modding related question.

[solemn rivet]

can't find

smh

[copper nacelle]

?

[compact sedge]

many youtube comments are shadow deleted

[solemn rivet]

ur comment boi

[copper nacelle]

oh

ree

[solemn rivet]

because of the link I believe

yt filters it as spam

[copper nacelle]

reeeeeeeee

i'll bit.ly it

[solemn rivet]

tho

it actually is spam

[floral furnace]

ooof rip urmumgay Mod of the Year edition

[compact sedge]

alright can I ask my modding question

[scenic slate]

Feels bad man, I feel like he does put legit effort in his videos but fucks up often on research

[solemn rivet]

sure

I'll go sleep tho

so 56 can help u

[copper nacelle]

[solemn rivet]

who even is that guy, loss_pollitoz

I mean, I hadn't heard of this channel 'til this happened

[compact sedge]

I call this for every frame that the user is dashing, yet the sprites are unevenly spaced in spite of me determining the sprite with using Time.DeltaTime. Why is that?

[copper nacelle]

wow it filtered my shortened link

[scenic slate]

Superforge

[solemn rivet]

have you tried fixed update instead of update?

[compact sedge]

My code's actually in the dash vector hook and it does this:

double length = Math.Sqrt((delta.x * delta.x) + (delta.y * delta.y));
const float pixelsPerUnit = 100;
float timeTraveled = Time.deltaTime;
double actualDistanceInPx = length * timeTraveled * pixelsPerUnit;

and then draws a sprite of width equal to that double

[solemn rivet]

Hmm

[scenic slate]

Basically he does hk videos often but get information wrong frequently, just look at his boss ranking vid

[compact sedge]

lol didn't he say THK was like the 3rd easiest boss

[solemn rivet]

AA try logging deltaTime?

Dunno

[scenic slate]

He said it was one of the harder bosses

I think

[solemn rivet]

He said NKG is hard

Kek

[scenic slate]

lol he's easy after 6 hours in infinite Grimm

[rain cedar]

NKG is hard but very pattern based

He does the exact same thing every time he starts an attack

Extremely easy to deal with with practice

[copper nacelle]

hard the first time, easy on subsequent tries

[solemn rivet]

I hate Radiance

[scenic slate]

I'd still say even with practice he's still the hardest boss

radiance is ez

[solemn rivet]

Also, everyone knows

Hardest boss =

[copper nacelle]

radiance w/ practice is still harder than nkg w/ practice imo

[rain cedar]

I'm not scared of dying to NKG in runs, something like collector I could die to

[solemn rivet]

I have way more trouble with radiance than nkg usually

[compact sedge]

[INFO]:[Redwing] frame was 0.02 seconds long and thus the px distance is 55.9999987483025
[INFO]:[Redwing] frame was 0.02 seconds long and thus the px distance is 55.9999987483025
[INFO]:[Redwing] frame was 0.02 seconds long and thus the px distance is 55.9999987483025
...
[INFO]:[Greymoth] Dash direction: (-1.0, 0.0)
[INFO]:[Redwing] frame was 0.02 seconds long and thus the px distance is 55.9999987483025
...
[INFO]:[Redwing] frame was 0.02 seconds long and thus the px distance is 55.9999987483025
``` etc.
Still unevenly spaced in practice.

[scenic slate]

Radiance can be easily cheesed in both phases

[solemn rivet]

Weird

[scenic slate]

Just spam spell and u good

[copper nacelle]

true

[compact sedge]

why does Time.DeltaTime say I'm getting such an even 60 fps and I'm not actually tho

[rain cedar]

Probably something wrong in your placement then

It's fixed update

[solemn rivet]

Isn't there also fixedDeltaTime?

[rain cedar]

Yes but you're not supposed to use that ever

Idk why it even exists

Maybe it's for setting FixedUpdate rate

[compact sedge]

ugh fixedDeltaTime

so my thing can be really messed up at 400fps

[copper nacelle]

plot to sabotage my game smh

[compact sedge]

maybe I should just multiply it by like 1.2 or something so all the sprites at least overlap

[rain cedar]

Nah fix your shit

[compact sedge]

how tho

[rain cedar]

Idk by making it better

[copper nacelle]

lmao

[compact sedge]

nice

[rain cedar]

Maybe the problem is that you're running this in FixedUpdate

So you're not getting an actual deltaTime

[copper nacelle]

iirc was using update and then just tried fixed update

[compact sedge]

...I'm running it in DashVectorHook

is that FixedUpdate?

[copper nacelle]

yes

[rain cedar]

Yes

[compact sedge]

oh fuck

[rain cedar]

As a general rule all physics functions should be in FixedUpdate

[compact sedge]

so I can just read the dash cstate to get if they're dashing, right?

[rain cedar]

That's one of the few things TC actually does right

Yeah you could try that

[compact sedge]

if I start a coroutine does that run in fixed updates?

[rain cedar]

I have absolutely no idea when coroutines run

It's every frame so probably the real Update

But I don't know when during the frame

[compact sedge]

Ok StartCoroutine is a fixed update

what can I use that's not a fixed update

[rain cedar]

Are you sure? That doesn't sound right

[compact sedge]

no it's not I'm just dumb and realized I had fixedDeltaTime as a relic from trying to get it work with the other method

[rain cedar]

Good I'm glad my life isn't a lie

[compact sedge]

I mean it's still very slightly broken (by like 1 px) but my guess is that this is because I have to pass a rect made of floats to build a sprite which is made of an int number of pixels and that Unity is internally rounding this rect in a way I don't want.

[rain cedar]

But the rect you pass is meant to be the portion of the texture to use in pixels

Why are you putting floats in it?

[compact sedge]

Rect is constructed from floats but unity needs ints to choose pixels

I have a solution tho so don't worry

solving it does uncover the tiniest of problems in mine and gradows diagonal dash functions but otherwise works pretty well.

[rain cedar]

Cool

[copper nacelle]

@compact sedge meme

have you actually just been doing yield return null

60 billion times

[compact sedge]

hold on ping me again so the next time I open discord I see this.

[copper nacelle]

@compact sedge

[rain cedar]

Most of those aren't even yield instructions though

They're FsmStateActions

With incredibly misleading names

[copper nacelle]

true

[rain cedar]

Big meme

[copper nacelle]

wtf

also bigger meme

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/283680756159741953/458167550241406976/unknown.png

[rain cedar]

Lol where is that from?

[copper nacelle]

avenging angle redwing

[rain cedar]

yield return new WaitForSecondsRealtime(LIFESPAN)

Too hard

[warped sinew]

https://www.reddit.com/r/HollowKnight/comments/8rxbdh/fps_drops_in_last_phase_of_nkg

Will the setting in IG work for normal grimm

So this guy can disable the background?

[copper nacelle]

wait

read that wrong

@compact sedge ee

[solemn rivet]

56 doing gods work

bless u

[orchid talon]

hai i tried to mod hollow knight with the randomizer mod and it dosent seem to work?

could anyone give tips and tricks? or help ^^

[solemn rivet]

check pins

there are installers there that should help you

[orchid talon]

oooh thank you kind sir!

[solemn rivet]

np!

any questions you can ask here or dm us

[orchid talon]

the crossroads thingy is easy to use yes?

[solemn rivet]

yeah, should be!

never used it

but people seem to like it

[orchid talon]

well its worth a shot!

[solemn rivet]

if that doesn't work for you, for some reason, you can try my installer

it's also in pins

but crossroads should be no issue to use

[orchid talon]

it is

doing everything!

how amazing is that xD

and sure if i open and it dosent work

i will try some other stuff

[solemn rivet]

great! Glad to hear it works

[orchid talon]

just takes some time to connect i think maybe i spoke too fast

and it says done

okay so i am trying to make the game modded

so my friend can be suprised with what i changed

but now it says all the installed mods

in the top left corner xD

it will ruin the suprise!

[solemn rivet]

well

in-game it won't show that

only on menu/title screens

[orchid talon]

oh thanks!

[solemn rivet]

np! Have fun!

[orchid talon]

Thanks alot it All works~

[hoary anvil]

i'm trying to use the bonfire mod but it doesn't work
can you please help me out?

[young walrus]

use an installer

in pins

📌

[hoary anvil]

thanks!

[compact sedge]

Just woke up and here to say to graig: Yes the setting I use in infinite grimm could be applied to normal grimm but it'd be a lot easier (aka take 2 minutes) to do graphically. I'm just telling grimm to use the first or third balloon 3 times (which isn't the ideal way to do this but works for IG). These balloons have the least impact on the game's FPS because they only slightly increases the nightmare heart's animation framerate, and only once, so running them twice causes no extra lag.

As it is now I don't touch the first (regular) NKG fight at all. And I consider it beyond the scope of both that mod and my modding to make the vanilla game less laggy.

[shadow pewter]

I tried to use mods via the ModInstaller, it said they got installed and they are in the files, but when I start the game nothing has changed

am I missing something?

[compact sedge]

did you install the modding api

also which mods

some are incompatible

[shadow pewter]

yes I did install the api and I used the Randomizer/Randomizer2(Liveblood)

[compact sedge]

Install randomizer2 but not randomizer

and uh reinstall modding api

and also install modcommon

I think

[shadow pewter]

oh, ok I will try that, I just reinstall Hollow knight too, just be be save

but already thanks for the help ^^

it works now, thank you very much

[orchid talon]

my randomnizer crashes the game after false knight does anyone know what this could be?

[fair rampart]

yo how do i install mods for hk?

[ornate rivet]

trusting windows security system to detect viruses is silly, I know because of all the pirating I've done throughout the years Virus = not detected, not virus = virus detected

pinned

[fair rampart]

what about it?

[ornate rivet]

https://gitlab.com/gradow/ModInstaller/uploads/100f494bf4112f2fb029db2bef94e0f4/ModInstaller.exe

[young walrus]

@orchid talon use this version of rando 2.0

[fair rampart]

do i open it?

[ornate rivet]

yes

[fair rampart]

i did and i press run

[orchid talon]

i can't use the one with the crossroads thingy?

[young walrus]

not if you don't want this FK bug

[fair rampart]

ok now its like a check thingy

[ornate rivet]

yea, select the mods you want

[orchid talon]

ahhhhh

thanks!

[young walrus]

crossroads grabs from the google drive

[fair rampart]

hmm does it effect for the ammount i install?

[young walrus]

but the google drive hasn't been updated since saturday with this version fix

[ornate rivet]

I dont think so

[fair rampart]

i installed a mod now what do i do?

[young walrus]

play the game

[fair rampart]

like make a new one

[young walrus]

well what mod did you install? did you install all the other dependencies too?

and it's usually not a good idea to install mods until you've beat the game

[fair rampart]

i did the bonfire

[young walrus]

b/c it's possible for them to ruin save files

[fair rampart]

whats dat?

[young walrus]

and you have the API too? and modcommon?

[fair rampart]

whats dat?

[young walrus]

and you've beaten the game?

[fair rampart]

yea and no

[young walrus]

well based on how confused you are all the time in the help channel, you probably shouldn't be modding your game yet

[solemn rivet]

mick, I'm just gonna watch this unfold for now

[rigid stag]

how do i install the debug mod?

[fair rampart]

shhh its okie

[ornate rivet]

https://gitlab.com/gradow/ModInstaller/uploads/100f494bf4112f2fb029db2bef94e0f4/ModInstaller.exe

[solemn rivet]

goopy: look in pins

[young walrus]

@rigid stag use an installer

also look in pins

[fair rampart]

?

[young walrus]

📌

[fair rampart]

argh

[solemn rivet]

we need more people commenting on the vid

rage-induced downloads are the best

[slate igloo]

Can i get a link to a mod that increases my charm slots/lets me spawn bosses

[solemn rivet]

check pins

[young walrus]

there is no mod that increases charm slots, but the save file editor can do that stuff

and debug mod can respawn bosses, but you can't spawn bosses wherever you want

[fair rampart]

yo uhh

[young walrus]

no

[fair rampart]

mickely

.

[solemn rivet]

savage as usual mick

[fair rampart]

i dont know how to use

[solemn rivet]

what?

[fair rampart]

mod list

[young walrus]

your brain?

[fair rampart]

?

[solemn rivet]

click checkbox

[fair rampart]

whatt

[solemn rivet]

mod downloads

done

[fair rampart]

.

[solemn rivet]

there's really not much to it

[fair rampart]

argh

no

[compact sedge]

ok

[fair rampart]

u dont gtet it nvm

[compact sedge]

can we just establish somethign

[slate igloo]

For the debug mod the link i get when i google it just gives me the download for API

[compact sedge]

are you on windows

aka

do you see a little windows thing in the corner?

[solemn rivet]

raftking yeah, debug mod is an API mod

[young walrus]

why are you googling debug mod

[solemn rivet]

so it needs the API to run

[young walrus]

PINS

[compact sedge]

not you raft I mean DMS

[young walrus]

everything you'd ever need is in the pins here

[slate igloo]

I know do i need to install api as a separate thing

[young walrus]

yes

[solemn rivet]

yeah

[young walrus]

if you use the installer, it does it for you

if you say "yes"

[solemn rivet]

literally, go to pins people

[leaden hedge]

https://gfycat.com/PoorMatureIlsamochadegu

[young walrus]

^^

[solemn rivet]

there's videos explaining how to install there

there are installers there

[compact sedge]

holy shit u actually didi t kdt

[young walrus]

there are step by step instructions

[solemn rivet]

KDT can I have your babies?

[buoyant obsidian]

that doesn't just change the cloak color though

[leaden hedge]

well i was too lazy to mask it correctly

[compact sedge]

can this be done in code

or just in unity

[buoyant obsidian]

it really can't get properly masked

[solemn rivet]

what else is changed?

[buoyant obsidian]

Yes Angle

[leaden hedge]

it can get perfectly masked

by actually doing it manually

instead of using the magic wand tool

[buoyant obsidian]

that's a Unity shader and you can change it's properties

[leaden hedge]

to check the code works

this was done in like 3 minutes lol

[solemn rivet]

the blackmoth dream is REAL

[buoyant obsidian]

Lootbox dream is real

[leaden hedge]

masking it wouldn't even be particularly hard because everything has black outlines

so you don't need to be exact

also with my implementation you can have 3 different things masked at once

so you could mask cloak/nail/head

[rigid stag]

how do i start a boss rush game

[leaden hedge]

you down patch

[rigid stag]

?

it says its installed

[leaden hedge]

it doesn't work on this patch

you just start a normal game and it runs

[rigid stag]

oh how do i down patch

[leaden hedge]

but it wont work on lifeblood

use steam console

[rigid stag]

whats that

[leaden hedge]

theres a guide on this games speedrun.com page

[young walrus]

;guides

https://www.speedrun.com/hollowknight/guides

[rigid stag]

thx

[young walrus]

and you'll have to clear your registry

so.... if you're fond of achievements or other things..... probably just wait for GnG boss rush

[rigid stag]

download failed ;/

[young walrus]

so try again

it'll take a long time

like 20 minutes

[rigid stag]

invalid default manifest

[young walrus]

screenshot of the steam console?

[rigid stag]

so... yeah

[young walrus]

what is that bracket in there?

[rigid stag]

idk

i didnt put a bracket in

[solemn rivet]

command wrong

bigthink

[rigid stag]

ive never dont this

[solemn rivet]

download_depot 367520 367521 648876203478229944

[rigid stag]

fanks

[solemn rivet]

literally just copy pasta from speedrun.com

[young walrus]

^^

[rigid stag]

it wouldnt let me

so i had to type it out whoops

[young walrus]

what wouldn't let you

your computer?

[rigid stag]

so gradow how do u make mods bc i am an ammatuer js react guy but i have no idea what you guys do

yeah i couldnt select text on the website

[young walrus]

download_depot 367520 367521 648876203478229944

literally just did it

so dunno what you did

[solemn rivet]

first we need a virgin, a bottle of vodka and a white chicken

[rigid stag]

done

[solemn rivet]

k

that's all there is to it, actually

[young walrus]

wow gradow, that's racist

[solemn rivet]

how so mick

[rigid stag]

what language is it?

[young walrus]

"white chicken"

[solemn rivet]

*caucasian chicken

[young walrus]

C#

[rigid stag]

ah

is there a way to tell when it finishes?

[young walrus]

it'll tell you

[rigid stag]

ok

it finish but its still on lifeblood

[solemn rivet]

wut

Wait until the download is completed (There will be no indication of progress within the client), then go to the directory printed into the Steam console. Make a copy of your current game installation (Steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight), then move the newly downloaded game files to this folder. You should now be able to launch the game through Steam as normal and be on the previous patch.

[rigid stag]

it said it was complete

[solemn rivet]

^

[slate igloo]

how do i use an old version

[solemn rivet]

https://www.speedrun.com/hollowknight/guide/yl0m6

[rigid stag]

ah

nvm i see'

[leaden hedge]

much mask wow https://gfycat.com/FrankTidyAfricangoldencat 🤔

[young walrus]

you have to move the downloaded files

like the guide says

they're not just installed by default

[solemn rivet]

KDT it kinda looks like the knight is impaled with his nail

[young walrus]

and that's sick as hell KDT

[rigid stag]

im dumb i get it

[solemn rivet]

ded knight