#archived-modding-development | Hollow Knight | Page 114

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 8:00 PM

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on hardmode

willow path Jun 10, 2018, 8:00 PM

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the best build is gitting gud

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 8:00 PM

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He did spell build for 12k on regular mode

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idk about what he did to get the 9k on hard

willow path Jun 10, 2018, 8:00 PM

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also does the damage dealt during stagger count?

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because it doesn't appear to

copper nacelle Jun 10, 2018, 8:01 PM

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you can do up to 50 damage during stagger

willow path Jun 10, 2018, 8:01 PM

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ohh

solemn rivet Jun 10, 2018, 8:16 PM

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Trinomi went full on spells. Twister, Shamans, Grubsong and Catcher

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I always go full nail

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 8:16 PM

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and got 9k?

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jesus

copper nacelle Jun 10, 2018, 8:16 PM

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spells > nail

young walrus Jun 10, 2018, 8:21 PM

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spells OP

scenic slate Jun 10, 2018, 10:59 PM

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I GOT 6K HARD MODE WOO

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oh man if I didn't choke at end I could've made top 5 ;w;

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 11:01 PM

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Alright. Quick poll. Should I take a break from redwing to finish up infinite grimm 0.4?

scenic slate Jun 10, 2018, 11:01 PM

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yes

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also wats in 0.4 😮

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 11:03 PM

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custom starting speeds, maximum speeds, and speed increase rates. infinite nightmare god grimms in a memey optional mode. Making sharp shadow do stagger like it should. Endurance mode where you have 1 hp and grimm 1 shots you.

copper nacelle Jun 10, 2018, 11:04 PM

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wait I'm still top 5?

hollow pier Jun 10, 2018, 11:05 PM

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no you're 56

copper nacelle Jun 10, 2018, 11:05 PM

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haha yes

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@compact sedge

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hollow pier Jun 10, 2018, 11:07 PM

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did you mean git gud

compact sedge Jun 10, 2018, 11:09 PM

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google

copper nacelle Jun 10, 2018, 11:11 PM

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meme

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duckduckgo

scenic slate Jun 10, 2018, 11:17 PM

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SO. CLOSE. AAAAAAAA

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copper nacelle Jun 10, 2018, 11:24 PM

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still top 5 meme

copper nacelle Jun 10, 2018, 11:41 PM

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@scenic slate meme

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1st try too

scenic slate Jun 10, 2018, 11:42 PM

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boi

copper nacelle Jun 10, 2018, 11:42 PM

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hollowdab

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i got my previous high score in 2 tries with trinomi's build

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would highly recommend

scenic slate Jun 10, 2018, 11:43 PM

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wats the build

copper nacelle Jun 10, 2018, 11:43 PM

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shaman stone, soul catcher, u str, spell twister, grubsong

scenic slate Jun 10, 2018, 11:43 PM

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B-But ma precious quick slash

copper nacelle Jun 10, 2018, 11:44 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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i like spell builds

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could ask veru for his nail build

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p sure it has quick slash

scenic slate Jun 10, 2018, 11:47 PM

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the build I currently use is quick s, strength, quick focus, and soul catch

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considering using fury

copper nacelle Jun 10, 2018, 11:48 PM

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fury pain

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i only got to like 5k with it

scenic slate Jun 10, 2018, 11:50 PM

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also fix #5 and #6 on scoreboard

copper nacelle Jun 10, 2018, 11:56 PM

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?

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ah

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 12:20 AM

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Alright why am I not dashing?

I have the following code in a function added to ModHooks.Instance.DashVectorHook:

log($@"Returning a vector which is: {ret}");
return ret;

In my game log when I dash left I see multiple:
[INFO]:[Greymoth] Returning a vector which is: (-0.6, 0.0)

But my character dashes in place.

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[INFO]:[Greymoth] Dash direction: (-1.0, 1.0)
[INFO]:[Redwing] I should be spawning a fire trail right now
[INFO]:[Greymoth] Returning a vector which is: (-0.4, 0.4)
[INFO]:[Greymoth] Returning a vector which is: (-0.4, 0.4)
etc...```

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I don't have any other DashVectorHooks but I do have another DashPressedHook which is called after the first one.

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Here's a video to demonstrate my problem

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copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 12:30 AM

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what the fuck is that font size

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 12:31 AM

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I made it big so it wouldn't be artifacty

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When I recorded it

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small text looks like crap on video

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 12:31 AM

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not wrong

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 12:31 AM

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I feel like the one person who knows the answer to my problem is on away right now.

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actually... maybe the two people who know

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 12:32 AM

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try making it return 100 100

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 12:32 AM

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that's dumb but ok

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 12:32 AM

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dumb things work too often

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 12:33 AM

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lol u should see my fireball collision code

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 12:34 AM

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that's the spawn 50 gameobjects at 50 points code

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right

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 12:34 AM

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hey 4 gameobjects at 4 points

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for each fireball

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times 7

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ok multiplying my dash speed by 10 makes me dash a VERY SMALL distance

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wtf

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seanpr pls

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 12:35 AM

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🤔

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 12:36 AM

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ret *= 100;
            log($@"Returning a vector which is: {ret}");
            
            return ret;

why tf does this work

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oh wait I know

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gradow u monster

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 12:36 AM

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?

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 12:36 AM

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he put ret = Time.deltaTime * num * DashDirection in the code I stole

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but actually the vector you want to return

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is the dash length over 1 second

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not over 1 frame

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 12:37 AM

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nice

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 12:38 AM

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wait but then how the hell does it work in blackmoth

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 12:39 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

pure thistle Jun 11, 2018, 12:46 AM

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could someone help with my modding

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this is actually my first time unzipping stuff and things

solemn rivet Jun 11, 2018, 12:46 AM

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AA you're probably changing the velocity

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 12:46 AM

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@pure thistle https://gitlab.com/gradow/ModInstaller/uploads/100f494bf4112f2fb029db2bef94e0f4/ModInstaller.exe

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download

solemn rivet Jun 11, 2018, 12:46 AM

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I change the transform's position directly

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 12:46 AM

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check boxes

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u win

solemn rivet Jun 11, 2018, 12:47 AM

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I'll be on my pc in a bit

pure thistle Jun 11, 2018, 12:49 AM

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still doesnt work

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poop lol i just started up HK and its stuck on a black screen

supple sigil Jun 11, 2018, 12:53 AM

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try taking the game along with its files

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and moving it

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to the recycling bin

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 12:55 AM

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IDK if I'm changing the velocity or not gradow. I'm only doing a dash vector through the DashVectorHook. That's the only way it's set. And for that you don't wanna multiply by Time.DeltaTime because the game does that on its own.

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Just like this code: https://gitlab.com/gradow/Blackmoth/blob/master/BlackmothMod.cs#L396 and https://gitlab.com/gradow/Blackmoth/blob/master/BlackmothMod.cs#L453 but much simpler

GitLab

BlackmothMod.cs · master · Gradow / Blackmoth

Repository for Blackmoth HK mod

GitLab

BlackmothMod.cs · master · Gradow / Blackmoth

Repository for Blackmoth HK mod

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also I fixed being able to turbo button

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literally by just enforcing a 1 frame delay between dashes

young walrus Jun 11, 2018, 12:56 AM

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there's a video on how to mod your game

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and step by step instructions

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and an installer too

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 12:56 AM

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want me to send that fix gradow? Or does it not matter because I'm the only one who exploits it anyway

young walrus Jun 11, 2018, 12:56 AM

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so..... pick one

scenic slate Jun 11, 2018, 1:09 AM

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@copper nacelle

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4th place boy

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 1:10 AM

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wait

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 1:10 AM

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56 I hope you're updating the scores because I've been too busy modding

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 1:10 AM

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FUCK

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20 DAMAGE

scenic slate Jun 11, 2018, 1:10 AM

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LOL

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 1:10 AM

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gonna beat u

scenic slate Jun 11, 2018, 1:10 AM

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no me

hollow pier Jun 11, 2018, 1:10 AM

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what if los didnt get one nail hit off

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wouldve been 1 point away

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 1:10 AM

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then i'd be happy

scenic slate Jun 11, 2018, 1:12 AM

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the combination of grimm gettin faster and choking is my greatest enemey

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 1:14 AM

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u are actually killing me

warped sinew Jun 11, 2018, 1:15 AM

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Strength, quick heal, double heal, grubsong

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 1:15 AM

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reee heal build

warped sinew Jun 11, 2018, 1:16 AM

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Do it

scenic slate Jun 11, 2018, 1:16 AM

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thinkgrub

hollow pier Jun 11, 2018, 1:16 AM

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shape of unn hollowomg

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 1:16 AM

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don't do it

scenic slate Jun 11, 2018, 1:16 AM

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but muh precious quick slash

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ima take a break, been at this for an hour now ;w;

warped sinew Jun 11, 2018, 1:17 AM

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Quick slash bad for fast Grimm boi

scenic slate Jun 11, 2018, 1:17 AM

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makes beginning too slow

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 1:18 AM

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quick slash, strength, mop, long nail

scenic slate Jun 11, 2018, 1:18 AM

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Im the aggressive kind

warped sinew Jun 11, 2018, 1:20 AM

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Yo @compact sedge you could add a time mode when you get 10 mins, highest damage in that time

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 1:21 AM

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Now that doesn't sound like a bad idea. But if it's timed grimm should probably move at normal speed

warped sinew Jun 11, 2018, 1:21 AM

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Yer

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 1:21 AM

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re

warped sinew Jun 11, 2018, 1:21 AM

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Now you know why I get paid the (small) bucks to test and give my opinion

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 1:21 AM

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no

warped sinew Jun 11, 2018, 1:21 AM

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mantiswhy

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 1:21 AM

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make it go at max speed

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for the whole time

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imo

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slow grimm is boring

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 1:22 AM

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ok but then yo ucan't use magic

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 1:22 AM

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wtf

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trinomi used magic

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at 9k

warped sinew Jun 11, 2018, 1:22 AM

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I mean you could just make all these modes be turned on/off at the same time really

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 1:22 AM

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therefore

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u wrong

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tm

warped sinew Jun 11, 2018, 1:23 AM

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One hit Max speed timed grimm

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 1:23 AM

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no speeds are gonna be set separately and apply to all modes except god grimm

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god grimm is just a meme port of a meme mod because I'm too lazy to wait for kdt

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 1:23 AM

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:echREE:

solemn rivet Jun 11, 2018, 1:23 AM

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AA: you can pr if you want to

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 1:24 AM

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ok I will but I haven't tested my fix's interaction with the other charms

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probably gonna need to disable it for grubberfly for example

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all it does is make it so you have to wait 1 frame between dashes

solemn rivet Jun 11, 2018, 1:24 AM

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also, AA: ```cs
HeroController.instance.GetComponent<Rigidbody2D>().position = HeroController.instance.GetComponent<Rigidbody2D>().position + ret;
return Vector2.zero;

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 1:24 AM

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wait so then your DashVectorHook code is unused then?

solemn rivet Jun 11, 2018, 1:25 AM

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no, that's inside that method

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 1:25 AM

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oh

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why

solemn rivet Jun 11, 2018, 1:25 AM

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https://gitlab.com/gradow/Blackmoth/blob/master/BlackmothMod.cs#L459

GitLab

BlackmothMod.cs · master · Gradow / Blackmoth

Repository for Blackmoth HK mod

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 1:25 AM

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why not just return the dashvector

solemn rivet Jun 11, 2018, 1:25 AM

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this allows for moving through walls

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doesn't check for collision

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 1:25 AM

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ah ok

solemn rivet Jun 11, 2018, 1:25 AM

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basically how debug does noclip

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 1:26 AM

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yeah I don't need that in my version. I just needed to take some of your code for omnidirectional dashing and to get dashing working in spite of adding a DashPressedHook which normally stops dashing.

solemn rivet Jun 11, 2018, 1:27 AM

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https://gitlab.com/gradow/Blackmoth/blob/master/BlackmothMod.cs#L500 here I actually return the vector

GitLab

BlackmothMod.cs · master · Gradow / Blackmoth

Repository for Blackmoth HK mod

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 1:27 AM

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oh I see

solemn rivet Jun 11, 2018, 1:27 AM

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notice it's inside the check for sharpShadow

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 1:28 AM

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yeah because without sharpShadow you want to collide

solemn rivet Jun 11, 2018, 1:28 AM

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I mean, I do have to clean up my code

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 1:28 AM

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with the line collider walls

solemn rivet Jun 11, 2018, 1:28 AM

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but, yeah

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 1:28 AM

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collision free dashing is kinda memey tho not gonna lie

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because you can just fall out of the map

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and the default respawn for falling out of the map is usually 0,0

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which usually is also outside the map

solemn rivet Jun 11, 2018, 1:28 AM

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zote

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the true blackmoth is not hindered by measly things such as "map"

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also

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 1:29 AM

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make a megascene that's all the scenes put together

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so if you fall out of the map you land on another map

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only takes 6GB of ram

solemn rivet Jun 11, 2018, 1:29 AM

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dunno if you saw it, but the omnidirectional dash is also in the CheckForDash method

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 1:29 AM

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and a supercomputer cpu

solemn rivet Jun 11, 2018, 1:29 AM

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https://gitlab.com/gradow/Blackmoth/blob/master/BlackmothMod.cs#L519

GitLab

BlackmothMod.cs · master · Gradow / Blackmoth

Repository for Blackmoth HK mod

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 1:30 AM

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yeah I got it working

solemn rivet Jun 11, 2018, 1:32 AM

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that is mostly stolen from seanpr tho

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 1:32 AM

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and now mine is mostly stolen from you

solemn rivet Jun 11, 2018, 1:32 AM

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graymoth, bigmems

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 1:33 AM

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But uh next I'm gonna add a check for your mod and if it passes it will not add the graymoth behavior.

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but I'm lazy and wanna do infinite grimm first since suddenly people are actually playing it

solemn rivet Jun 11, 2018, 1:33 AM

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I'll see if I can get some time this week and clean up the code

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 1:33 AM

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idk why

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 1:33 AM

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cause competition

solemn rivet Jun 11, 2018, 1:33 AM

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I should pool invokes and components

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 1:33 AM

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drives people

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 1:35 AM

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idc about your code just that it mostly works. The only things I'm doing with your code at this point are

calculating the dash distance so I know how far to do the fire trails.
(optionally) overriding the 1 dmg nail thing because 1/4th the appeal of my mod is it makes the game easier.

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oh and sending a PR sometime in the future when I get a chance to test it

pure thistle Jun 11, 2018, 1:39 AM

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what does the scalemod do, scale your character smaller?

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 1:40 AM

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yes but it doesn't work on 1.3.1.5 afaik

scenic slate Jun 11, 2018, 1:50 AM

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At this point I could probably beat grimm with old nail

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 2:07 AM

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same

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also kill me

solemn rivet Jun 11, 2018, 2:09 AM

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with old nail?

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 2:11 AM

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same tbh

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Esp since on the normal grimm fight you get staggers ever 13 hits or so

solemn rivet Jun 11, 2018, 2:12 AM

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I mean

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I could kill you with old nail

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 2:12 AM

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could probably do it with -1 nail too... but not without abilities or charms like that one video.

solemn rivet Jun 11, 2018, 2:12 AM

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but wouldn't that hurt, like, a lot?

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 2:14 AM

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poor NKG, dying of tetanus from your old rusty nail.

solemn rivet Jun 11, 2018, 2:14 AM

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best charm there

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 2:17 AM

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nearly 90k geo

ornate rivet Jun 11, 2018, 2:18 AM

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does anyone here have very good knowledge of the SHA-1 algorithm

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 2:18 AM

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like the details of how it works specifically?

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or just how to do it?

ornate rivet Jun 11, 2018, 2:18 AM

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well I know how to do it

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but it doesnt work

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but that isn't very descriptive

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 2:19 AM

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what do you mean

ornate rivet Jun 11, 2018, 2:20 AM

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I've read the documentation for it and I think the code I wrote for it is correct but I am not converting between variables types properly

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so let ask a better question

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So if you want an integer to hold a hexadecimal you can do 0xSomeHexNumber but what if you have a binary string and want to convert it to an integer in hexadecimal

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 2:22 AM

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ok so first problem. sha1sums are way longer than integers or longs

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they're 160 bits I think

ornate rivet Jun 11, 2018, 2:22 AM

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yea I am using BigInteger

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 2:22 AM

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well the problem is you're gonna need to figure out casting with BigInteger

ornate rivet Jun 11, 2018, 2:24 AM

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but I cant even do what I want with regular ints

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I am thinking the code shouldnt be that different between int and BigInteger

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 2:24 AM

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can't you just do new BigInteger(string)

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where your string is everything except the 0x

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so just the part after it

ornate rivet Jun 11, 2018, 2:25 AM

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I have a string of 1s and 0s

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and I want to convert that to a hexadecimal and store it as a BigInteger

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 2:31 AM

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ornate rivet Jun 11, 2018, 2:31 AM

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I tried that

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it didnt work

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plus, it doesn't return hex

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that code converts binary to decimal, I want it to convert binary to an integer that holds hex

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 2:39 AM

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then just do

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public string BinToDec(string value)
{
    // BigInteger can be found in the System.Numerics dll
    BigInteger res = 0;

    // I'm totally skipping error handling here
    foreach(char c in value)
    {
        res <<= 1;
        res += c == '1' ? 1 : 0;
    }

    return res.ToString("X");
}

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i think

ornate rivet Jun 11, 2018, 2:44 AM

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I think this worked

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my sha-1 code has 1 extra letter in each w[i] iteration though but I don't think it's because of this

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thanks

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 2:46 AM

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yw

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 2:56 AM

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woah reshaper turned 6 lines into 1

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 2:56 AM

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resharper slightly op

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also changing the vm options on rider is the best

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no more lag

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 2:57 AM

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there's lag???

scenic slate Jun 11, 2018, 3:14 AM

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I've had a couple studders

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 3:17 AM

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in Jetbrains Rider I mean

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Speaking of which by refactoring my code it should have reduced the lag added by my mod, although not by a substantial amount. What will is my new ReduceLagInGrimmFight option.

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 3:42 AM

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Is there an easy way to get the damage that a nail or sharp shadow should do, or do I just have to calculate it from the hero vars manually?

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Like I can't just do 5 + nailUpgrades because there's a bunch of charms and stuff that influence these.

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 3:44 AM

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yes

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 3:44 AM

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wait really?!

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 3:44 AM

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check damageDealt of the nail object

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 3:44 AM

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does that account for all charms?

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 3:44 AM

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yes

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it has a damage multiplier for fury

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but f str is baked in

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 3:45 AM

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what about for sharp shadow?

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 3:45 AM

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probably also has an object you can check

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i'd just do the maths though

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but it is there on an object

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 3:47 AM

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oh yeah uhh I'd rather not find that object tbh

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Doesn't nail damage round up for some stupid reason

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 3:49 AM

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might just round

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not sure

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 3:50 AM

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oh wait I know

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 3:50 AM

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why / when do you need it

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 3:50 AM

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I'm using HitInstance to check stagger so all I gotta do is check if the HitInstance damage equals the damage done to grimm

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basically because HitInstance procs for every frame you sharp shadow

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so right now if you drop flukes and sharp shadow as grimm is getting hit by the flukes, even if you don't hit him with the shadow

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he still gets staggered

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because the flukes hit him and his health drops while hitinstance sharpshadow occurs

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but if I just check that the damage done to grimm is the same as the hitinstance dmg for sharpshadow it should work

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 4:06 AM

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Alright 56 I wanna call the version on my github/lab a new stable release of infinite grimm but I'ma test it first.

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 4:13 AM

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hurry up thanks

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 4:13 AM

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help me out if you want me to go faster, just need to make sure my very simple settings works, as well as sharp shadow stagger

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 4:15 AM

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no i need to beat pollitoz

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 4:16 AM

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ok well I already found one minor bug so

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ya know

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 4:16 AM

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delet

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this

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 4:16 AM

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I did it was a tiny oversight with a 1 line fix

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alright if there's no more bugs then the next infinite grimm with a bunch of features y'all suggested is out in 30 minutes

flat forum Jun 11, 2018, 4:24 AM

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WHAt Features?

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NGG

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pls

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 4:24 AM

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NGG and endurance mode

flat forum Jun 11, 2018, 4:24 AM

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YAY

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I'll get to fight NGG

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thanks

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a

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GBAJILLION

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(sorry, got excited)

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also downloading Redwing to test

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 4:25 AM

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@scenic slate get dusted

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also @compact sedge 90k geo

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 4:25 AM

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jk NGG and endurance mode aren't coming until 0.4

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but what is coming

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 4:26 AM

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ree

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 4:26 AM

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is custom starting speeds, increase speed rate, etc.

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basically you can configure all the speed stuff

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as well as stagger, and there's a lag reducing setting

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the lag reducing setting only does a little now (maybe 30% better fps) but should be more like 60% better fps by 0.4

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 4:27 AM

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neat

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but did you see

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91k geo

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 4:28 AM

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nice

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Alright 2 more things to test

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Alright, no other bugs

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I think we're ready for release.

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Time to update the readme

flat forum Jun 11, 2018, 4:35 AM

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ok

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so

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trying redwing

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 4:36 AM

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it's definitely buggy

flat forum Jun 11, 2018, 4:36 AM

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game crashes whenever you enter either from above or from below with a dash (spawning fireballs)

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I think that should be your top priority

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 4:36 AM

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uhh

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ok

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modlog pls

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in the other server

flat forum Jun 11, 2018, 4:36 AM

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Ok

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 4:44 AM

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New version of Infinite Grimm out on the google drive!

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0.3.5 fixes the following bugs:

* Sharp shadow does not stagger
* There's a few theoretical, obscure, and totally not practical ways to stagger with fluke that were fixed

and adds the following features:

* Damage counter using geo display
* A lag reduction mode which, for now, just avoids activating the fire heart to save some frames.
* Customize Grimm's difficulty with five separate variables that can be tweaked to your liking.
* The damage report at the end tells you if you made grimm harder or easier using this customization, and if you used hard mode.

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Huh Gitlab does have releases after all

solemn rivet Jun 11, 2018, 4:50 AM

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It does

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It's called tags simply

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 4:51 AM

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no I know that but you can attach binaries to tags

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that's what I didn't know

solemn rivet Jun 11, 2018, 4:51 AM

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Yeah

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My installer m8

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 5:11 AM

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Alright just updated grimmchild upgrades on the drive to the newest infinite grimm abi

solemn rivet Jun 11, 2018, 5:11 AM

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Also, nice graymoth btw

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 5:11 AM

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hey

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I need upward dashing

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and I'm too lazy to write my own

solemn rivet Jun 11, 2018, 5:12 AM

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Uhhh

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Don't you have omni tho

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 5:12 AM

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It is intentionally shitty though. As you'll notice by looking at the lack of any charm interactions

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yes

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omni

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omni, and you can dash much faster

solemn rivet Jun 11, 2018, 5:12 AM

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I was talking abt your profile pic

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Haven't played it yet

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But that's a Redwing

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 5:13 AM

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oh uh what is this dunq

solemn rivet Jun 11, 2018, 5:13 AM

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Not a graymoth

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 5:13 AM

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oh

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I asked folding to draw a picture of something "flaming" half sarcastically two days ago and he totally went through with it and it looks cool so I set it as my pfp.

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I have like a whole art crew (of 2 people) for redwing which is weird because I don't even use any art assets in the mod itself.

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Maybe I should though.

solemn rivet Jun 11, 2018, 5:15 AM

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Heh

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My art crew is ded

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 5:15 AM

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I didn't ask for it either it just sorta happened after I made a redwing server

solemn rivet Jun 11, 2018, 5:15 AM

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I killed them myself

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Nice!

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 5:15 AM

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But I'm not complaining

solemn rivet Jun 11, 2018, 5:15 AM

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It looks cool tho

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Maybe we can have rainbow moths

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Power ranger moths

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 5:16 AM

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er

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 5:16 AM

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says the person with a rainbow floor in their mantis gods mod

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 5:16 AM

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ur fault

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 5:16 AM

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shhh

solemn rivet Jun 11, 2018, 5:17 AM

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Collect all colored moths to unlock...

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Uhh

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Something

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Ultimate power ™

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 5:18 AM

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Might as well call the first version of my mod rainbow wing because I've mistakenly refered to it as firewing like 3 times and faeren calls it greenwing, and it has a greymoth class.

solemn rivet Jun 11, 2018, 5:21 AM

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Gaywing when

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 5:21 AM

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Well I made IG 0.3.5 a lot faster than I thought I would so I guess I'll now work on Endurance and god mode

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aka meme mode

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because NGG is a meme

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 5:22 AM

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u

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 5:22 AM

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also I guess I can work on getting performance numbers even higher with lag reduction enabled, although for now the improvement should be large enough to make the fight much more playable.

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 5:25 AM

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i made this fight so fast it's easy

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 5:26 AM

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???

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how is it easy if it's fast

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thinkgrub

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 5:26 AM

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dash stab

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pogo to win

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while moving a bit

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 5:32 AM

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what speed did you set grimm to?

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 5:32 AM

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not grimm

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mantis lords

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 5:32 AM

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oh

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I can't read

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 5:54 AM

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ffs

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i was trying to increase the x velocity

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so i multiply it by 10

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so i go to log it later cause nothing's happening

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its velocity was 0

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reee

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 6:25 AM

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Fun fact: As best I can understand NGG has 4 phases

Phase 1 is 2000 dmg long
Phase 2 is 400 dmg long, or 375 in lifeblood
Phase 3 is also 400/375 dmg, and is the only phase where you take double dmg from grimm
Phase 4 is 800 dmg long and is the one with two grimms.

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Can't be sure though because I'm too lazy to downpatch

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Actually my theory is they are more evenly split

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but this is how the phases would look if I implemented it into lifeblood the way it's done in grimm troupe

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 6:27 AM

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changing mantis projectiles makes me want to die

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and i give up

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 6:27 AM

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I'm making the phases 800 HP each as I believe god would have intended

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but

flat forum Jun 11, 2018, 6:28 AM

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Ok

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and NGG release when?

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also, is the GDrive one updated, with the speeds and stuff?

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 6:28 AM

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it is

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3 hours ago

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tell your friends

flat forum Jun 11, 2018, 6:28 AM

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downloading it

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 6:30 AM

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yeah ok 2:30am

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elderbug

flat forum Jun 11, 2018, 6:30 AM

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elderbug

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also

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seeing these

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I'll make a stupidly OP GRIMM TO TESTHAHAHAHHAHA

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Grimm starts at x3 speed, stops at x7 and increases a speed every 2500 damage

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 6:40 AM

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on normal that might be survivable

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Almost certainly not on hard

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maybe a robot could but I think the spikes would launch faster than humans are capible of thinking

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also sorry KDT

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in advance

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 6:43 AM

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its 800/800/800/800 or should be

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 6:43 AM

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It is in TGT

flat forum Jun 11, 2018, 6:43 AM

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Ok

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1.5k like that on normal

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 6:43 AM

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So then I shall make it that way in mine

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I guess

flat forum Jun 11, 2018, 6:43 AM

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disappointed to say the least

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setting it on hard

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(starting at x3 and going up)

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 6:44 AM

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afaik spikes at 7x speed might be doable if you can parry them

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 6:44 AM

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normal at 3x is normal at 12k dmg which is totally fine

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maybe

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you'd need to preparry probably if you're a human

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 6:44 AM

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but I don't think you can actually parry spikes for some reason

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you would preparry

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also I pause buffer

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 6:44 AM

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because strictly speaking by the time you KNOW the spikes are happening, they would have hit you 100ms earlier

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 6:44 AM

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to do grimm at 3x speedhack

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 6:44 AM

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pause buffer

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sounds like cheating

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actually not really

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but

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it still seems very hard

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 6:45 AM

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spikes isn't the problem though, its fire pillars and dive

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 6:45 AM

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pillars at 7x

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 6:45 AM

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and only because dive is super glitchy

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 6:45 AM

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actually no

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pillars at 7x the fire itself only appears at normal speed

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it's just the pillars spawn much faster

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in my mod

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on speedhacks yes

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 6:46 AM

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yes speedhack is much more difficult than just making grimm faster

flat forum Jun 11, 2018, 6:47 AM

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WHOAHAWOH

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250 damage on hard like that

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goddamn

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those bats

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fire pillars stop at the 2nd pillar

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 6:47 AM

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although when gng finally comes out

flat forum Jun 11, 2018, 6:47 AM

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and the uppercut is impossible

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 6:47 AM

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ill probably maked the scorched ripoff

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uppercut isn't impossible at any speed

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as you can prejump and it'll whiff

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well obviously at extremely high speeds you probably can't stay in the air short enough to jump again before he attacks again

flat forum Jun 11, 2018, 6:49 AM

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reached first balloon

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400 damage

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 7:11 AM

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Alright, almost finished porting NGG

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about ready for some fun videos

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 7:17 AM

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oh nkg is real slow without speedhacks

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 7:23 AM

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ok time to abuse the hell out of debugmod because no way in hell I can test NGG normally

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 7:24 AM

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tdogRat4

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 7:24 AM

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can you make infinite grimm start you at 1hp if you have fotf equipped

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thanks

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 7:24 AM

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no but I will be adding an endurance mode where you start at 1hp

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 7:24 AM

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^^^^^^

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 7:24 AM

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and grimm 1 shots you even if you heal

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so the starting at 1 hp is just for the FotF thing

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 7:25 AM

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kdt gets 1000000k, colorized

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 7:25 AM

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also canvas ui current damage 🤔

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 7:26 AM

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effort

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 7:26 AM

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pretty minimal effort

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 7:26 AM

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but u see

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 7:26 AM

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I guess you could put it in the geo counter

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 7:26 AM

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I don't understand canvas

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 7:26 AM

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which is pretty low effort

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 7:26 AM

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I did

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 7:26 AM

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also it is in the geo counter

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 7:26 AM

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becasue 56

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did

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and sent a merge request

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 7:26 AM

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more like 56 did

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 7:27 AM

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heh

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 7:27 AM

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well here is a secret

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you can duplicate the geo counter

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 7:27 AM

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I'm stealing that

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except idk what for

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 7:27 AM

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boss rush does it

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for the timer

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 7:27 AM

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nice

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 7:27 AM

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Nothing in redwing certainly

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I'm doing all original graphics for that and nothing there needs text

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 7:55 AM

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i need a better pc so fireballs don't lag

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is 10k at max speed?

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 7:55 AM

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on hardmode

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it's 9k

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 7:55 AM

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yes

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 7:55 AM

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on normal it's 11k

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 7:55 AM

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on hard

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normals gay

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 7:56 AM

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ok you know it's hard if grimm doesn't talk to you when you enter

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and it says hard when you get your score

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assuming you're on 0.3.5

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 7:56 AM

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📎 unknown.png

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 7:58 AM

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Dang, they weren't wrong about you being a god

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I heard the rumors

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 7:59 AM

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im ok at this boss fight

flat forum Jun 11, 2018, 8:02 AM

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ping me when NGG comes out

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I'll see it after school

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 8:10 AM

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It's done @flat forum . Will add it to google drive I guess.

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actually no I wont

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I still need to test it and I don't really have the time to now

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so I'll just put a binary file here

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This binary is getting big

📎 infinitegrimm.dll

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(Changes also pushed to gitlab/hub)

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Y'all tell me if there's any problems. I haven't really tested it aside from the 12 second video I recorded for meme and I'm going to sleep

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:16 AM

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anyone got any ideas for my totally original idea not stolen from a dark souls mod Kappa
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17MPVC6v7iTZGfYJxrbJOuSvQum1IUgQqL18Ao5Kxi1g/edit?usp=sharing

Google Docs

Literal Garbage that shouldn't be made but will

Sheet1

Gruz Mother, Enemies( nonbosses) spawn weak versions of themselves on death, Blatant ripoff of Scorching Contract mod for darksouls no sue
False Knight, Take double damage from all hits, Scorching Contract makes the game permanently harder via a debuff for every bos...

floral furnace Jun 11, 2018, 9:17 AM

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~~scorched contract hype~~

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:17 AM

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cant you read

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this is an original idea

floral furnace Jun 11, 2018, 9:18 AM

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oh of course my bad totally mistaken it for the the blood souls mod

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Hornet slower* attack speed?

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:19 AM

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was gonna do that for traitor lord

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gives up agility for strength

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you should be able to edit the right side

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only the left side should be locked

floral furnace Jun 11, 2018, 9:20 AM

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slightly higher soul requirement

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:21 AM

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So each boss has different nerfs it applies to the player?

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:21 AM

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yes

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and you have to defeat every boss

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except GPZ probably because its missable

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:22 AM

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oh so the debuffs apply for the rest of the game

floral furnace Jun 11, 2018, 9:22 AM

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yeah, so you can choose which boss you have to fuck up first and decide if you can stomach the debuff until the end of the game

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:22 AM

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also harder bosses should give harder debuffs

floral furnace Jun 11, 2018, 9:23 AM

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~~Basically the same as Scorched Contract mod for Dark Souls~~ totally original idea

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:23 AM

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although I've been doing thematic first

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and yes the debuffs stack and apply for the entire game

floral furnace Jun 11, 2018, 9:24 AM

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oh when you beat one of the dream warriors, cna you periodically summon those phantom swords at you

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:24 AM

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probably

floral furnace Jun 11, 2018, 9:24 AM

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like probs every 60 seconds or something

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or 30? dunno

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:25 AM

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When you finish this I'm gonna try installing every possible mod that works on GnG and is open source and see what the game's like.

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probably REALLY broken

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:25 AM

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probably won't work well with other mods hollowface

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:26 AM

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I mean forced to equip grimmchild sounds like a pro in that situation.

floral furnace Jun 11, 2018, 9:26 AM

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i dont see the problem with that hollowface

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:26 AM

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grimmchild will be lv0 intenseface

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:26 AM

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but cost 6 notches anyway because of my mod

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:26 AM

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anything with a ? is maybe

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:26 AM

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oh god

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:26 AM

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which boss has dream shields

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galien?

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xero is the swords guy right

floral furnace Jun 11, 2018, 9:27 AM

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yeah

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no no markoth has the shield

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but him and xero has the swords

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:27 AM

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gorb is cthulu

floral furnace Jun 11, 2018, 9:28 AM

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oh for the ultimate horror

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beat one of the boss, dont know what specifically

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but it will grant you infinite salubra WITHOUT the soul regen

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:28 AM

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fuck you beat me to it

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:28 AM

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even off the bench 🤔

floral furnace Jun 11, 2018, 9:28 AM

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great minds thinks alike

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:28 AM

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I was just gonna say have it play that sound effect at all times

floral furnace Jun 11, 2018, 9:28 AM

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yes

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like forever

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thats the true debuff

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:29 AM

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gorb

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:29 AM

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if you turn off the volume you can't hear the enemy attacks

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so you lose either way

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:29 AM

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marmu should check if the player is madstix

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and if it is

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deletes the game

floral furnace Jun 11, 2018, 9:30 AM

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*after uploading all your credentials online

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:30 AM

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I know what ill do for NKG

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grimmchild permanently equipped, and it heals enemies on hit

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also its attacks actually hit now

floral furnace Jun 11, 2018, 9:31 AM

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rip aa mod

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should hornet 2 retroactively increase the shade dash cooldown

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:31 AM

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(my fireballs are custom they wouldn't be affected)

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also I hook after every other mod

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:31 AM

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ill hook the hook

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checkm8

floral furnace Jun 11, 2018, 9:31 AM

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oh shit

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rip aa

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:31 AM

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rip me

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Anyway if I ever do do an all mods installed run, then firewing's nukes cannot come fast enough.

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:32 AM

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hmm shadow dash cd 🤔

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I could make shadow dash not actually work

floral furnace Jun 11, 2018, 9:32 AM

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oof

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except for barrier dashes right?

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:32 AM

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so it can only be used to go through walls

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:32 AM

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0 length shadow dash

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:32 AM

#

although Lost Kin was going to disable dive iframes

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so you'd lose to radiance

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:33 AM

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no

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you'd dash in place

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and be immune

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while dashing

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oh wait

#

unless you disable that

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:33 AM

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well you couldn;t get through gates then

floral furnace Jun 11, 2018, 9:33 AM

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15% chance for your nail range to become 0 for each slash

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:33 AM

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thus unable to kill markoth

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:33 AM

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then make it 0 width or very very short with sharp shadow

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:33 AM

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what about iframes only work if you have sharp shadow on

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or dashmaster

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:34 AM

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make it so you can remove 1 debuff once, but only by doing path of pain.

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:35 AM

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worth

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better idea

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make path of pain required

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and make it give a debuff

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:35 AM

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fighting regular grimm forces you to play with a guitar hero controller.

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it will refuse input from all other devices

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:36 AM

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I already play with an arcade stick FeelsBadMan

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and I play clone hero with an arcade stick

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:36 AM

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wtf really?

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:36 AM

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so im like 99% there

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ye

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I can do most expert songs without 100% tapnotes

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:36 AM

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is that the secret to gitting gud

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:36 AM

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unless you mean hk

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:36 AM

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at either game

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:36 AM

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in which case yes I play with a arcade stick

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:36 AM

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can you FC soulless 4 for me real quick

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thanks

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:36 AM

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no

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ill do the overchart version

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I can't strum fast enough for soulless 4 FeelsBadMan

floral furnace Jun 11, 2018, 9:37 AM

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might as well play russian roulette while youre at it then pulling the trigger whenever you die with this mod

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:37 AM

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do the abridged one where it's like 60 randomly placed machinations A

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:38 AM

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I play one handed, and use my thumb to hit the strum key

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so if its faster than I can spam my thumb

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i can't hit it lol

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:38 AM

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if I buy an arcade stick for HK will I be as good at killing grimm as you?

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:38 AM

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no

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:38 AM

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does it actually help

#

vs say a controller

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like if you learn it

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:38 AM

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no its garbage

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I just started playing games with it as a meme

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:38 AM

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lul

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:38 AM

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haha lets do no hit dark souls 3 with an arcade stick

floral furnace Jun 11, 2018, 9:39 AM

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killing hornet 2 should tank the frames and performance

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:39 AM

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only hard part for that over a normal control is the camera controls are shit

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you can't even kill hornet 1

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its impossible

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a reddit post said so

floral furnace Jun 11, 2018, 9:39 AM

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something something are you kidding me hornet isnt the hardest boss something

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:40 AM

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but for real the only reason I play CH with an arcade stick is I don't want to mess up my keyboard osu skills hollowface

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so it feels mentally different

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:41 AM

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So how did you become the gaming god you are now

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is it just like you found out you were much better than your friends and you just kept at it until you became amazing

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or like do you have robotic implants

floral furnace Jun 11, 2018, 9:41 AM

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By buying gamer fuel

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He runs on doritos and mountain dew 24/7 thats why hes so good

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:42 AM

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I don't even play games I'm good at anymore

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I pretty much only play games I'm ok at

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:43 AM

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oh god if you're only "ok" at HK I don't wanna know what you're good at.

warped sinew Jun 11, 2018, 9:43 AM

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wut dis do "ReduceLagInGrimmFight"

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:43 AM

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I bet you have like the world record in some game and we just don't know it yet

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For now it turns off the nightmare heart opening up with is about 30% higher fps on very low end machines. in the future I wanna reduce the animations on the people in the background.

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:44 AM

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nah games stop being fun once you start trying to get into the 1% of the 1%

floral furnace Jun 11, 2018, 9:44 AM

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oh yeah ive notice my laptop performance fucking dies once the nightmare heart starts glowing

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:45 AM

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Hey you know what, I was top 10 globally in a semi obscure browser game for about 3 months

#

that was really fun

#

that's the best gaming record I've ever achieved

#

and probably ever will

#

it had like 100k players

#

so not the shabbiest thing in the world but it was still silly and I only got there with a guide and a lot of notes.

#

being the best of the best may not be fun to you but idk being on a leaderboard has its appeal, at least to me.

warped sinew Jun 11, 2018, 9:48 AM

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hmmm so now that the settings can be changed it kinda calls into question how to compare scroes. I good way around that would be to have a "competition" mode that has fixed settings.

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:48 AM

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already done

warped sinew Jun 11, 2018, 9:48 AM

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... omg you could have SEASONAL competition

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where for the month the settings are fixed

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then next month they change

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:49 AM

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I dunno it might just be the quality and style of games

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:49 AM

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changing any settings at all to make the game easier (even if you also make other parts harder) will show a minus by your score.

changing settings to only make the game harder will show a plus.

floral furnace Jun 11, 2018, 9:49 AM

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Grimmfinite Tournament when

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:49 AM

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so if you take a screenshot with a non-regulation grimm then it's invalid

floral furnace Jun 11, 2018, 9:49 AM

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~~Why isnt it called Grimmfinite again~~

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:49 AM

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unless it's like a strictly harder grimm I guess

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Also I love the idea of a regulation grimm. Like there's some factory measuring each grimm that comes out to make sure it fits within the rules.

warped sinew Jun 11, 2018, 9:50 AM

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you could standardise the score, harder modes give multiplers

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or somethign

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:50 AM

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no too easy to cheese

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:50 AM

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I used to be "pretty" good at fps although fps has changed a lot since I cared back in highschool

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:50 AM

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you can configure it however you want

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so there's infinite possibility for someone to make it 120000 times harder and get 1 nail hit in

floral furnace Jun 11, 2018, 9:51 AM

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continious combos increase score, you lose your combo multiplier on hit

warped sinew Jun 11, 2018, 9:51 AM

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thats why you need a timer too :p

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:51 AM

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like I really don't like battle royale, and esea for csgo is cancer zzz

warped sinew Jun 11, 2018, 9:51 AM

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for the one hit boys

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:51 AM

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hits are already very punishing with the way stagger works, and they'll be infinitely more punishing when you can only take one of them

warped sinew Jun 11, 2018, 9:52 AM

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man you could even have DPS calculations too lol

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:52 AM

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remove balloon phases

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and spikes imo

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:52 AM

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no

floral furnace Jun 11, 2018, 9:52 AM

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remove staggers is better imo

warped sinew Jun 11, 2018, 9:52 AM

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nah

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:52 AM

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balloon is boring

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especially with fotf

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:52 AM

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I refuse to remove attacks from an enemy. 1 hit mode will have no staggers.

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but it will have balloons and spikes

warped sinew Jun 11, 2018, 9:52 AM

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yeah i agree, leave him as he is

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:52 AM

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he spends half the fight in balloon doing nothing zzz

warped sinew Jun 11, 2018, 9:53 AM

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hit him with spells then

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:53 AM

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balloons get rarer the later you get

floral furnace Jun 11, 2018, 9:53 AM

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isnt he set depending on how much damage youve dealt

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:53 AM

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spells when im fotf 🤔

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:53 AM

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why not right, what else are you doing with the soul

floral furnace Jun 11, 2018, 9:53 AM

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seperate soul and nail only leaderboards /s

warped sinew Jun 11, 2018, 9:53 AM

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can you not use spells?

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:54 AM

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im not doing anything with the soul

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but where am I going to use spells

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can you hit him in balloon with spells?

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:54 AM

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yes

floral furnace Jun 11, 2018, 9:54 AM

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uhh fire pillar

warped sinew Jun 11, 2018, 9:54 AM

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yes

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:54 AM

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thats not vanilla

warped sinew Jun 11, 2018, 9:54 AM

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in lifeblood

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:54 AM

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wtf

warped sinew Jun 11, 2018, 9:54 AM

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they changed it

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:54 AM

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there's like a very small safe spot for shooting fireballs at him in the air

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:54 AM

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seems pretty risky if im at 1hp

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:54 AM

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not for someone with as much talent as you

warped sinew Jun 11, 2018, 9:54 AM

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it is risky, but you wanted something to do right? haha

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:55 AM

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my game already lags bad in nkg balloon FeelsBadMan

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:55 AM

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you got a crazy high score given the lag

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:56 AM

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its pretty random

floral furnace Jun 11, 2018, 9:56 AM

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set it at 800x600 res to maximize frames hollowface

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:56 AM

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its not like constantly 10fps

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its like 1 every 4 it'll go to 0fps for a second

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:56 AM

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idk the thing is I have a 1060 and only a laptop cpu but that gpu's enough that I have no idea when the game lags for you people

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:57 AM

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is there a way to make it start at max speed

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:57 AM

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yes

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edit the config file

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All the options there should be verbose enough that you know what they do

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hopefully

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:58 AM

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0.800000011920929 🤔

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nice 0.8 you've got there

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:58 AM

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float rounding reeee

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0.8f == 0.800000011920929

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:59 AM

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just do 8/10 tbh hollowface

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:59 AM

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so 0

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heh

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 9:59 AM

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8//10 hollowface

floral furnace Jun 11, 2018, 10:00 AM

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is there a point where it stops giving a shit about precision on a decimal number

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 10:00 AM

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floats don't even know what decimal is

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its just scientific notation binary

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 10:00 AM

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I think you could increase it as high as 0.800000023 ish before it notices a difference

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I don't have my float calc with me though

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 10:01 AM

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what about if I set it to 3

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 10:01 AM

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that'll work

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for hard mode that will be a speed of 3.4

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which will then be reduced to 3 if 3 is your cap

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 10:01 AM

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what if it starts at a number higher than max

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 10:01 AM

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it sets it to max

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instantly

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don't worry about it

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 10:02 AM

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what if max is negative

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 10:02 AM

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undefined behavior

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animation speeds at negative framerates sounds bad to me

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idk

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if you have dnspy I guess you could find out

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 10:03 AM

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whats hard +

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 10:03 AM

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it means that your changes to the config file only made grimm harder

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and that not one change made him easier

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 10:29 AM

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can probably do infinite hard+ (starting at speed 3)

📎 unknown.png

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time to get 70k points

warped sinew Jun 11, 2018, 10:39 AM

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@compact sedge Adding player damage taken would be cool too

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 11:12 AM

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wtf

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10k with fury

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kdt continues to surpass my expectations of his godliness

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 11:15 AM

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im coming for top spot at 3x speed from the start without a meme build tbh

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 11:16 AM

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GWfroggyZoomeyes

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 11:31 AM

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wait

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@scenic slate rip top 5

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 12:12 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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i'm coming for number 1 via hard + intenseface

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 12:13 PM

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how tf

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 12:13 PM

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can we have a counter for when next balloon will pop btw

hollow pier Jun 11, 2018, 12:13 PM

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now do it in darkmod

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 12:14 PM

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kinda annoying prejumping into a balloon lol

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 12:15 PM

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it's like every 500 I think

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key words here being I think

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 12:28 PM

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here you go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-Qhhc5EA8s&feature=youtu.be

YouTube

GiantSuika

7950 Inf Grimm Hard+

▶ Play video

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hopefully with practice I should be able to consistently no hit balloon phases

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then I should just be able to go on forever

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also no audio because obs was being good hollowface

scenic slate Jun 11, 2018, 1:02 PM

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Oh god there's a hard+ mode now?! ;w;

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@copper nacelle I'm coming for you

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 1:03 PM

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hard+ is just starting at max speed

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so its basically starting at 9k

scenic slate Jun 11, 2018, 1:04 PM

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ahh

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sounds fun....

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 1:05 PM

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well apparently anything that makes it harder than default is hard+

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but I set it to max speed at start

scenic slate Jun 11, 2018, 1:17 PM

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So there's gonna be hard+ and no hit mode, how many game modes are there gonna be ;w;

weary oyster Jun 11, 2018, 1:42 PM

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oh nice i like this hard+

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 1:48 PM

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i might try some more to get 13k+ on hard+ later

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going to go back to playing poe

weary oyster Jun 11, 2018, 1:49 PM

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what is "reducelagingrimmfight"?

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 1:49 PM

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should make certain parts of the grimm fight less laggy

weary oyster Jun 11, 2018, 1:50 PM

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no reason not to turn it on i guess

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also how do i activate hard+

hazy sentinel Jun 11, 2018, 1:50 PM

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just change fight settings to be harder

weary oyster Jun 11, 2018, 1:50 PM

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i guess make the starting speed 3 then?

hazy sentinel Jun 11, 2018, 1:50 PM

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that works

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 1:51 PM

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I'm running StartingDanceSpeedMultiplier at 3.0

weary oyster Jun 11, 2018, 1:51 PM

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aight cool

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 1:51 PM

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and hardmode = true

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I might also change the starting stagger hits

hazy sentinel Jun 11, 2018, 1:51 PM

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change it to 99999

leaden hedge Jun 11, 2018, 1:54 PM

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I think 38 is accurate to what it would be normally on hard at max difficulty

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although 40 is a nicer rounder number hollowface

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 2:28 PM

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@scenic slate gl with that

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hollowface

willow path Jun 11, 2018, 2:35 PM

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Decided to do a quick try and broke 5k

📎 LETS.jpg

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and apparently tied with Folding

hazy sentinel Jun 11, 2018, 2:38 PM

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yo install 0.3.5

weary oyster Jun 11, 2018, 2:40 PM

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lmao how long did that 70k take you @hazy sentinel

hazy sentinel Jun 11, 2018, 2:40 PM

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an hour

weary oyster Jun 11, 2018, 2:40 PM

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wow

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thats longer than my nail-1kill

hazy sentinel Jun 11, 2018, 2:40 PM

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hollowwoke

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normal mode is a meme

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just slap on some heal charms

willow path Jun 11, 2018, 2:46 PM

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by normal do you mean hard or normal?

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 2:46 PM

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are you ok

willow path Jun 11, 2018, 2:46 PM

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no because nobody is playing normal anyway

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and they're playing hard+

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so hard is the new normal

hazy sentinel Jun 11, 2018, 2:46 PM

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📎 ok.png

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 2:47 PM

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my score is the best

willow path Jun 11, 2018, 2:47 PM

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nice

hazy sentinel Jun 11, 2018, 2:47 PM

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normal is basically just

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how much time do you want to sink into this shitpost

willow path Jun 11, 2018, 2:47 PM

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what's the max speed for normal?

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2

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?

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 2:47 PM

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should I stay at 56

hazy sentinel Jun 11, 2018, 2:47 PM

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56000 imo

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or 42069

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 2:47 PM

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yes

willow path Jun 11, 2018, 2:47 PM

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nice

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Though the Grimm mod is nice for someone who hasn't played for like more than half a year

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good mod

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better than 56

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 2:48 PM

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dēlët urself

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did you beat second phase

solemn rivet Jun 11, 2018, 2:48 PM

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AA

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would it be a valid score if I used nail0 and hit grimm 69 times on normal?

willow path Jun 11, 2018, 2:49 PM

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no

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 2:49 PM

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ree

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I'm rebalancing the mod tho

willow path Jun 11, 2018, 2:50 PM

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can you make it so uhh

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Grimm can't pillar flame in the corner

hazy sentinel Jun 11, 2018, 2:50 PM

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@solemn rivet nail0 does 5 damage

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so if you're going for 345 then that's fine

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 2:51 PM

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@willow path what

solemn rivet Jun 11, 2018, 2:51 PM

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sorry, my bad

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I mean nail-1

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 2:51 PM

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mantis gods don't have grimm

solemn rivet Jun 11, 2018, 2:51 PM

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don't like calling it that

willow path Jun 11, 2018, 2:51 PM

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I thought you meant you were balancing Grimm

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who said anything about Mantises

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 2:52 PM

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🤔

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imo second phase

willow path Jun 11, 2018, 2:52 PM

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you have confused me

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but I did not beat 2nd phase

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 2:52 PM

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ik

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I'm rebalancing it

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also boomerang cause it's too easy

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no more phase 1 cheese

willow path Jun 11, 2018, 2:53 PM

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what's the phase 1 cheese?

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it's easy anyway

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 2:54 PM

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you sit on the side of the arena and spam shade soul

hazy sentinel Jun 11, 2018, 2:54 PM

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wow nice

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 2:55 PM

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I might just give up and leave phase 2 as is

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and fix the cheese

hazy sentinel Jun 11, 2018, 2:55 PM

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nice balancing

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 2:55 PM

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yes

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then I might add phase 3 idk

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wait

willow path Jun 11, 2018, 2:56 PM

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but why though

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 2:56 PM

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why rebalance phase 2 when I can just add another phase

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4 phases

willow path Jun 11, 2018, 2:56 PM

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times the number of mantises by 2 each time

hazy sentinel Jun 11, 2018, 2:57 PM

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infinite mantis lords

solemn rivet Jun 11, 2018, 2:57 PM

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mantisNumber = 2^phaseNumber

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nice

willow path Jun 11, 2018, 2:58 PM

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mantisNumber = ((2^phaseNumber)^phaseNumber)) * number of deaths

hazy sentinel Jun 11, 2018, 2:58 PM

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wow self react

willow path Jun 11, 2018, 2:59 PM

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I'm shooting your 🤔

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🔫

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big lol

hazy sentinel Jun 11, 2018, 2:59 PM

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self reacts are illegal in every context

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smh my head

solemn rivet Jun 11, 2018, 3:00 PM

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what if I do

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zote

willow path Jun 11, 2018, 3:01 PM

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corny

solemn rivet Jun 11, 2018, 3:01 PM

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see? Not only allowed, but actually got positive feedback

hazy sentinel Jun 11, 2018, 3:01 PM

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self react if you want to die

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oh my nick's still test 6

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whoops

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fixed

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 3:03 PM

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aaaa

hazy sentinel Jun 11, 2018, 3:03 PM

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bbbb

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 3:04 PM

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literally in school

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exam 2 block

hazy sentinel Jun 11, 2018, 3:04 PM

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i only have 3 exams this year

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pretty cool

willow path Jun 11, 2018, 3:05 PM

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I had like 25

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 3:05 PM

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I've got 2

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3 this year but 2 at the end of the year

willow path Jun 11, 2018, 3:05 PM

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I only have 6 left though

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ha

copper nacelle Jun 11, 2018, 3:05 PM

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'only'

willow path Jun 11, 2018, 3:05 PM

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=/

steep sail Jun 11, 2018, 4:29 PM

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2 exams and work practics in game-dev studios)

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(but it`s a little studio with boring games like 3-in-row)

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 5:59 PM

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jesus effing christ kdt

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nobody can do more than 2k damage at max speed and you did... 8 effing k

flat forum Jun 11, 2018, 6:00 PM

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I say

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we make a special scoreboard for anyone that has scored:
30 000 on normal
10 000 on hard

solemn rivet Jun 11, 2018, 6:01 PM

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I got to 1k tops

flat forum Jun 11, 2018, 6:02 PM

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call it

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 6:02 PM

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nobody has yet to get 15k on hard and yet kdt totally could if he tried

flat forum Jun 11, 2018, 6:02 PM

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The Home of The Gods

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 6:02 PM

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he just didn't because he didn't wanna start on normal speed

flat forum Jun 11, 2018, 6:02 PM

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or

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however that leaked place from G&G was called

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House of Gods

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House of God?

solemn rivet Jun 11, 2018, 6:02 PM

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House of Trinomi and KDT

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and Graig and Veru

flat forum Jun 11, 2018, 6:03 PM

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and Very an Gr-

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GODDAMNIT

solemn rivet Jun 11, 2018, 6:03 PM

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omae wa mou shindeiru, papers

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 6:03 PM

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Trinomi hasn't gotten 10k but I'll give them a pass for doing NGG, even if segmented

flat forum Jun 11, 2018, 6:03 PM

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indeed

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Ok

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(latest version on GDrive?)

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 6:04 PM

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with the meme mode?

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no because I haven't tested it

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it's in the sindicate

flat forum Jun 11, 2018, 6:04 PM

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ok

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 6:04 PM

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and also the source is on gitlab

flat forum Jun 11, 2018, 6:04 PM

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was wondering where I'd find it

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 6:04 PM

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it should work 100% tho

flat forum Jun 11, 2018, 6:04 PM

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now

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time to do NGG

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properly

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on the latest version

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 6:04 PM

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ok post your best score

flat forum Jun 11, 2018, 6:04 PM

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also, G&G better introduce hard bosses

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 6:04 PM

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it's infinite but it doesn't get harder

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(because it doesn't need to)

flat forum Jun 11, 2018, 6:05 PM

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we're getting very good over here

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so, we'll need a new tough challenge

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 6:07 PM

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the only thing in it now is if you do 3200 dmg you get a different message. On normal mode it's just like normal NGG, on hard mode you have to do 3200 dmg while on the last phase

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aka there's two of them the whole time

flat forum Jun 11, 2018, 6:10 PM

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NightmareGodGrimm = true

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so, the NGG in that mod

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it's basically the same as the other NGG?

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 6:14 PM

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yes

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well

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mostly

flat forum Jun 11, 2018, 6:14 PM

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other than the health stuff

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 6:14 PM

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it lasts forever and the balloons are done in the silly way they're done on my mod

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so they start slightly faster

flat forum Jun 11, 2018, 6:14 PM

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Good enough

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 6:14 PM

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otherwise identical

flat forum Jun 11, 2018, 6:15 PM

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is NGG Hard even possible?

compact sedge Jun 11, 2018, 6:15 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯