#archived-modding-development | Hollow Knight | Page 110

solemn rivet Jun 5, 2018, 12:23 AM

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maggot

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I've just realized sean already posted the relevant lines here

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well, back to doing nothing

exotic venture Jun 5, 2018, 12:25 AM

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f

compact sedge Jun 5, 2018, 12:26 AM

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I'll post them again just to be safe
https://gitlab.com/gradow/BerserkMod/blob/master/BerserkMod/BerserkMod.cs#L323 https://gitlab.com/gradow/BerserkMod/blob/master/BerserkMod/BerserkMod.cs#L72

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solemn rivet Jun 5, 2018, 12:29 AM

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busy

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studies

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is there any benefit to using generic vars instead of the actual vars?

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specifically when foreach looping

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also, AA that repo can only accessed by people with a gitlab acc

compact sedge Jun 5, 2018, 12:36 AM

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oh sorry

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I was trying to do a meme

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and you actually made it so you need an account

solemn rivet Jun 5, 2018, 12:36 AM

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yeah

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I'm evil

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also

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your mem level >>> my mem level

compact sedge Jun 5, 2018, 12:37 AM

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I'm like on -3 mems right now so I'm sorry

solemn rivet Jun 5, 2018, 12:39 AM

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sadgrub

solemn rivet Jun 5, 2018, 1:43 AM

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okay, redid some of the code of the installer

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tomorrow I'll finish adding support for optional dependencies/suggested mods

copper nacelle Jun 5, 2018, 1:43 AM

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nice

solemn rivet Jun 5, 2018, 1:44 AM

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code makes more sense now too

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I have a dictionary for mods and their download links

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but, for some reason, when I first wrote it, I put the links as keys and the names as values

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idk

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I must have been drunk then

pearl sentinel Jun 5, 2018, 2:01 AM

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so, question for anyone bored enough to look at this; does this interface make sense to you?

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https://hastebin.com/asedubarip.cs

solemn rivet Jun 5, 2018, 2:02 AM

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ehhhh not much tbh

pearl sentinel Jun 5, 2018, 2:02 AM

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this is the core of something i've been debating on turning into an asset on the unity asset store, though i think i'd open source this part

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what if i told you that you could use this in place of any unity coroutine

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basically, put a coroutine in this. you can start, re-start, stop, pause, resume, etc

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example from one of my tests

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        [UnityTest]
        public IEnumerator StartAndCountTo100AndPauseAndResumeAt50()
        {
            countPos = 0;
            SmartRoutine testObject = new SmartRoutine(CountToX(100));
            Assert.That(SmartRoutineHelper.Instance.Routines.Count, Is.EqualTo(1), "1 SmartRoutine should be active.");

            while(countPos != 50)
            {
                Assert.That(SmartRoutineHelper.Instance.Routines.Count, Is.EqualTo(1), "1 SmartRoutine should be active.");
                yield return new WaitForEndOfFrame();
            }

            Assert.That(SmartRoutineHelper.Instance.Routines.Count, Is.EqualTo(1), "1 SmartRoutine should be active.");
            testObject.Stop(false);

            Assert.That(testObject.IsPaused, Is.True, "SmartRoutine failed to pause.");
            Assert.That(testObject.IsRunning, Is.True, "SmartRoutine stopped when it should be paused.");
            Assert.That(SmartRoutineHelper.Instance.Routines.Count, Is.EqualTo(0), "No SmartRoutine should be active while paused.");

            yield return testObject;

            Assert.That(countPos, Is.EqualTo(100), "Failed to count to 100.");
            Assert.That(testObject.IsRunning, Is.False, "SmartRoutine failed to stop.");
            Assert.That(SmartRoutineHelper.Instance.Routines.Count, Is.AtMost(0), "SmartRoutine did not complete.");
            yield break;
        }

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basically think of it as a better coroutine

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but yeah, if the interface doesn't make sense with that contextual info, i'd appreciate any feedback (there will be comments in the actual thing, i removed them for brevity here, and to get a sense of how the code communicates by itself)

sage flare Jun 5, 2018, 3:07 AM

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I'm a little confused as to how the randomizer is supposed to work. I've installed the mod using Crossroads along with the Modding API, and the text "Randomizer" does show up in the bottom right corner of my game. There's no options displayed under the new "Mods" option in the settings. When I start a game, I'm not prompted with anything, and I always get Fury of the Fallen in its correct location. Anybody have something helpful?

copper nacelle Jun 5, 2018, 3:07 AM

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did you install modcommon

solemn rivet Jun 5, 2018, 3:09 AM

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did u beat the game already?

young walrus Jun 5, 2018, 3:09 AM

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have you beaten the game?

sage flare Jun 5, 2018, 3:11 AM

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Just did install modcommon. No changes seemingly. And... I just cleared the save that I had beaten the game on.

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I have another save that's pretty far along that I can beat the game in though.

young walrus Jun 5, 2018, 3:12 AM

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all you need to have done on your PC is have beaten the game

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then in the steel soul vs normal select screen, it's different

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send a screen shot of your main menu

solemn rivet Jun 5, 2018, 3:13 AM

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^

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you need to be able to select steel soul

young walrus Jun 5, 2018, 3:32 AM

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or just.... disappear

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zote

copper nacelle Jun 5, 2018, 3:32 AM

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hollowf

solemn rivet Jun 5, 2018, 3:33 AM

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hollowb isappear

sage flare Jun 5, 2018, 4:25 AM

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I'm trying to beat the final true boss. I'm still kinda bad. Thanks guys for your help!

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Interrupted by calls constantly

copper nacelle Jun 5, 2018, 4:26 AM

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if you're doing it to unlock rando just beat thk

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radiance isn't necessary for the steel soul unlock

sage flare Jun 5, 2018, 4:52 AM

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Noted

copper nacelle Jun 5, 2018, 4:58 AM

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javascript: document.getElementsByName("project[visibility_level]").item(0).selectedIndex = 2; document.getElementsByName("commit")[1].click()

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bookmarklet to change the visibility to public

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for gitlab

rain cedar Jun 5, 2018, 5:34 AM

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@sage flare If there's text in the bottom right you have the old randomizer for grimm troupe

sage flare Jun 5, 2018, 5:35 AM

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How do I get the newer one then? I just used Crossroads to get it earlier today

copper nacelle Jun 5, 2018, 5:36 AM

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is it not in crossroads

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wtf

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i'll put it in rn

compact sedge Jun 5, 2018, 5:37 AM

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is it not in the xml?

copper nacelle Jun 5, 2018, 5:38 AM

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doesn't seem to be

rain cedar Jun 5, 2018, 5:38 AM

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I've never bothered editing that

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Was gonna a while ago but there were two of them so I just didn't

copper nacelle Jun 5, 2018, 5:40 AM

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@sage flare reopen crossroads and it should be there now

sage flare Jun 5, 2018, 5:42 AM

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Got it, thanks!

compact sedge Jun 5, 2018, 5:45 AM

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What do I have to do to get my Collider2D to work with my Rigidbody2D?

rain cedar Jun 5, 2018, 5:45 AM

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Put the collider on first

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Should be it

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Need to set bounds on the collider too of course

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So it knows where the collision is

compact sedge Jun 5, 2018, 6:05 AM

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Ok that worked but even though I have this function in a monobehavior that the game object has as a component it still never runs. https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Collider2D.OnCollisionEnter2D.html

rain cedar Jun 5, 2018, 6:10 AM

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Implement trigger enter too

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Both are for hitting colliders

compact sedge Jun 5, 2018, 6:11 AM

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can I have a collider that doesn't collide with literally every other physics object but does with like floors and stuff

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so my balls stop knocking my knight around

rain cedar Jun 5, 2018, 6:12 AM

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Yeah, I think there's actually a team cherry component you can use for that

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Hang on

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Yeah try adding IgnoreHeroCollision

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Might work

compact sedge Jun 5, 2018, 6:13 AM

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to what my gameobject

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or my rigidbody2d

rain cedar Jun 5, 2018, 6:13 AM

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You can't add components to other components

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Your object

compact sedge Jun 5, 2018, 6:14 AM

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also if I have OnTriggerEnter2D do I need the oncollision one?

rain cedar Jun 5, 2018, 6:15 AM

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They serve different purposes

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Trigger is for hitting non-solid objects, collision is for solid things

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I think you might have to set iskinematic or something similar to that on your rigidbody for either to work properly

compact sedge Jun 5, 2018, 6:16 AM

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That's probably the proper approach

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isKinematic means I have to write my own physics functions

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but also it means I CAN write my own collision functions

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since adding the IgnoreHeroCollision didn't work

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and also I want it to collide in certain ways

copper nacelle Jun 5, 2018, 7:44 AM

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lmao

compact sedge Jun 5, 2018, 7:45 AM

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ok I switched to jetbrains rider

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Loving it already

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56 was right

copper nacelle Jun 5, 2018, 7:45 AM

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nice

rain cedar Jun 5, 2018, 7:45 AM

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FSMs have the benefit of being able to be "hooked" at runtime with no dependencies at all

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Still pretty bad, though

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 7:51 AM

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📎 GodSlayers.dll

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here

copper nacelle Jun 5, 2018, 7:51 AM

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description when

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 7:51 AM

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Early 2018

copper nacelle Jun 5, 2018, 7:51 AM

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delet this

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 7:51 AM

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no u

rain cedar Jun 5, 2018, 7:52 AM

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zote

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copper nacelle Jun 5, 2018, 7:53 AM

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p a i n

dusky lion Jun 5, 2018, 7:54 AM

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It's funny because I don't get it because I'm not a true modder and 56 is forcing me to make a mod that renames Millibe to Wilbo.

floral furnace Jun 5, 2018, 7:54 AM

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Do it anyway

copper nacelle Jun 5, 2018, 7:54 AM

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@dusky lion 🔫

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ok so open Visual Studio and make a new project

dusky lion Jun 5, 2018, 7:55 AM

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Okay done

copper nacelle Jun 5, 2018, 7:55 AM

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wait what

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type has to be class library

dusky lion Jun 5, 2018, 7:55 AM

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I pressed the new project button

copper nacelle Jun 5, 2018, 7:55 AM

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ok select Class Library (.NET Standard)

dusky lion Jun 5, 2018, 7:55 AM

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That was your instructions and I finished instructions

copper nacelle Jun 5, 2018, 7:55 AM

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put the name in

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hit ok

dusky lion Jun 5, 2018, 7:55 AM

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Shit um

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Short intermission

copper nacelle Jun 5, 2018, 7:55 AM

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grimm

rain cedar Jun 5, 2018, 7:56 AM

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flag is never used again

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 7:57 AM

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here, description
List of changes
Fragile/Unbreakable Strength gives a powerful buff when at max health. Getting hit at max health deals double damage
Fury of the Fallen now makes you stronger based on health lost and not just at 1 health
Longnail Nail is now x1.5 longer. You deal x0.8 damage
Mark of Pride Nail is x1.75 longer. You deal x0.7 damage
Quickslash You attack very fast. You deal x0.5 damage

Combinations:
Fragile Fury - the Fragile/Unbreakable Strength activates at max health and at 2 or less health. You are constantly overcharmed
Long Mark of Pride - nail is x2.25 longer, but deals x0.5-x0.6 damage

trying to combine charms with different effects - Nail Length and Damage, Nail Length and Speed and Nail Length and Speed and Damage punishes you - you deal only 1 damage and your attacks are slower

copper nacelle Jun 5, 2018, 7:57 AM

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also just do Punishment = 0

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in addition to the flag being useless

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so is the if

dusky lion Jun 5, 2018, 7:58 AM

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I am back from my short intermission grimmhiss

copper nacelle Jun 5, 2018, 7:58 AM

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nice

dusky lion Jun 5, 2018, 7:59 AM

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God dammit um short intermission 2

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 7:59 AM

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@copper nacelle happy?

copper nacelle Jun 5, 2018, 7:59 AM

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dunq

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 7:59 AM

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I wrote a description of changes

copper nacelle Jun 5, 2018, 7:59 AM

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yes

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 7:59 AM

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yes

dusky lion Jun 5, 2018, 8:01 AM

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bakk

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 8:01 AM

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yeah

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did you see description of the mod?

dusky lion Jun 5, 2018, 8:02 AM

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Yes

copper nacelle Jun 5, 2018, 8:02 AM

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did you finish making the project

dusky lion Jun 5, 2018, 8:02 AM

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Almost had an uncomfortable 10 seconds of visual studio not responding.

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Where is the option to select Class Library?

copper nacelle Jun 5, 2018, 8:03 AM

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dusky lion Jun 5, 2018, 8:03 AM

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Wow yours looks incredibly different to mine

copper nacelle Jun 5, 2018, 8:04 AM

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show pic when

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 8:04 AM

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Dark Mode

dusky lion Jun 5, 2018, 8:04 AM

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flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 8:04 AM

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install

rain cedar Jun 5, 2018, 8:04 AM

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Oh no that's hideous

copper nacelle Jun 5, 2018, 8:04 AM

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my eyes

dusky lion Jun 5, 2018, 8:04 AM

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Where dark mode option?

floral furnace Jun 5, 2018, 8:04 AM

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light theme is ok tbh

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 8:04 AM

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you need to install the extra stuff

copper nacelle Jun 5, 2018, 8:04 AM

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Tools -> Options -> Environment

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 8:04 AM

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so you can have a class library

copper nacelle Jun 5, 2018, 8:04 AM

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Color theme: Dark

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yeah reopen the VS installer and select .NET

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after you make it dark mode

dusky lion Jun 5, 2018, 8:05 AM

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It was fine but now that I know there is a dark mode option I'm not going back.

copper nacelle Jun 5, 2018, 8:05 AM

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imo that was not fine

floral furnace Jun 5, 2018, 8:05 AM

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i mean, i think all of my other ide's are set to light mode

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its pretty ok i guess

dusky lion Jun 5, 2018, 8:05 AM

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Dark mode is engaged as it should be.

copper nacelle Jun 5, 2018, 8:06 AM

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the only light mode I like is GitHub's code editor

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that's ok

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other than that I prefer dark mode

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 8:07 AM

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hey

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@copper nacelle

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copper nacelle Jun 5, 2018, 8:07 AM

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yes

dusky lion Jun 5, 2018, 8:07 AM

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REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

floral furnace Jun 5, 2018, 8:07 AM

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okay i take that back

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probably not for discord

copper nacelle Jun 5, 2018, 8:07 AM

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delet this

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oh wait

dusky lion Jun 5, 2018, 8:08 AM

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📎 delet-this.png

copper nacelle Jun 5, 2018, 8:08 AM

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h a h a

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 8:08 AM

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no

copper nacelle Jun 5, 2018, 8:08 AM

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y e s

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since I'm gonna swap to linux for hk modding

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i can use discline now

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📎 screenshot_main.png

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terminal discord

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it doesn't align usernames tho

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ree

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 8:08 AM

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wait

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What

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WHat's that?

dusky lion Jun 5, 2018, 8:08 AM

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That looks like hurt

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 8:08 AM

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Y IT NOT LIIGHT MOODE

dusky lion Jun 5, 2018, 8:09 AM

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OH

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2.56 GBS OKAY

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 8:09 AM

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myeah

dusky lion Jun 5, 2018, 8:10 AM

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~~wheresln~~

floral furnace Jun 5, 2018, 8:11 AM

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Btw how hard would disabling attacks and dash should be?

copper nacelle Jun 5, 2018, 8:12 AM

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not very

floral furnace Jun 5, 2018, 8:12 AM

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Ohhh nice

copper nacelle Jun 5, 2018, 8:12 AM

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I think you can just set canDash false w/ the onbool

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 8:12 AM

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and attacks?

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(is there a CanAttack thing?)

copper nacelle Jun 5, 2018, 8:12 AM

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preattack set your nail range to 0

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 8:12 AM

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PreAttack?

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a preattack hook?

copper nacelle Jun 5, 2018, 8:13 AM

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it's called OnAttack

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OnAttack -> Attack -> AfterAttack

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 8:13 AM

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or is the OnAttack one

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ok

floral furnace Jun 5, 2018, 8:13 AM

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Alrighty then, looks like the GUI is gonna be the harder one to make then

copper nacelle Jun 5, 2018, 8:13 AM

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wait

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it starts the slash after afterattack

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so i think you could just

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set attacking false

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big meme

floral furnace Jun 5, 2018, 8:14 AM

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theres a bool for that?

copper nacelle Jun 5, 2018, 8:14 AM

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yeah

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HeroController.instance.cState.attacking = false;

floral furnace Jun 5, 2018, 8:14 AM

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cuz otherwise im gonna go dnspy diving

copper nacelle Jun 5, 2018, 8:14 AM

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set it in after attack

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 8:14 AM

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Y then set nail range to 0?

copper nacelle Jun 5, 2018, 8:14 AM

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never attack again

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no that was just an idea

floral furnace Jun 5, 2018, 8:14 AM

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Nail range 0 is an equivalent i guess

copper nacelle Jun 5, 2018, 8:14 AM

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setting attacking false is better

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 8:14 AM

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yeah

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but

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Y

floral furnace Jun 5, 2018, 8:15 AM

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i mean youre still attacking, but you just cant contact things anymore

dusky lion Jun 5, 2018, 8:15 AM

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Installing the .NET shite is going smoothly but slow.

copper nacelle Jun 5, 2018, 8:15 AM

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cause it'd work

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that was a quick guess at something you could do

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very much not a recommendation

floral furnace Jun 5, 2018, 8:15 AM

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yeah it just one of the possible solutions

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but hey, bool is there so ill just screw with that one instead

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 8:16 AM

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This will be very useful for me as well

dusky lion Jun 5, 2018, 8:20 AM

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61% done installing

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Oh boy it's 3 AM I should be sleeping

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@copper nacelle I'm going to let it finish downloading overnight and once I wake up I'll do the mod

copper nacelle Jun 5, 2018, 8:21 AM

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gn

floral furnace Jun 5, 2018, 8:22 AM

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just to remind me, GameObject has an instance that gets created once you get in the game, not in the main menu right?

copper nacelle Jun 5, 2018, 8:24 AM

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GameObject GWchadMEGATHINK

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that's just a unityengine type used a ton

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GameManager iirc doesn't have an instance till you're in game

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same w/ HeroController and PlayerData i think

floral furnace Jun 5, 2018, 8:25 AM

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then it should be destroyed when you quit back to the menu right?

copper nacelle Jun 5, 2018, 8:26 AM

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I'd think so

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but dunno

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wait yes

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it is

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I remember because I was adding a component to it

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and then my component kept getting destroyed

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and i kept getting confused

floral furnace Jun 5, 2018, 8:26 AM

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then you had to use do not destroy on load right?

copper nacelle Jun 5, 2018, 8:26 AM

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no i just let it die

floral furnace Jun 5, 2018, 8:26 AM

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alright

copper nacelle Jun 5, 2018, 8:26 AM

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I added a OnDestroy thing to my MonoBehaviour

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which unhooked my functions

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and made it so it adds the component onsaveload and stuff

floral furnace Jun 5, 2018, 8:27 AM

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ok ok thanks

rain cedar Jun 5, 2018, 8:58 AM

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@flat forum I cleaned up your code a lot while doing my best to keep the functionality exactly the same https://pastebin.com/903756Mu

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Some stuff doesn't make sense to me, which I added comments for

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 8:58 AM

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Oh

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Wow

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Thanks

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What did you use for reference tho?

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The latest version is the dll I sent

rain cedar Jun 5, 2018, 8:58 AM

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I just put the assembly you posted in dnspy

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 8:59 AM

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I don't think I posted the .cs to Github

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"These debuffs wpuld stack prettu harshly" - yeah I agree. I thought of trying to fix that later but thanks =D

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The Reducing Nail Damage was because the FStrength effect is always there

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I can't remove it

rain cedar Jun 5, 2018, 9:02 AM

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Yeah it's a multiplier set manually in the fsm

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 9:02 AM

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So in order to get the value I wanted I lowered the damage so that when it's multiplied by FStrength it gives me the result I wanted

rain cedar Jun 5, 2018, 9:02 AM

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Alright

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 9:03 AM

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The scaling on only 1 axis is intentional

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And the last thing - it's on AfterAttack as the other one started getting crowded and I was afraid not to get lost

rain cedar Jun 5, 2018, 9:07 AM

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In visual studio you can do something like

#region stuff
//code
#endregion
#region otherstuff
//more code
#endregion```

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 9:07 AM

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So I decided that I'll go with the tidier option

rain cedar Jun 5, 2018, 9:07 AM

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It adds minimizers to the sidebar

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 9:07 AM

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?

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Really

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Coooollll

rain cedar Jun 5, 2018, 9:08 AM

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Just looks like this when it's minimized

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solemn rivet Jun 5, 2018, 1:26 PM

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wow, looking at your code, you actually did a lot, Papers!

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good job!

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AA: adding optional dependencies now!

solemn rivet Jun 5, 2018, 2:08 PM

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success!

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compact sedge Jun 5, 2018, 3:40 PM

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Thank you so much

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 3:49 PM

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Thanks a lot Gradow! happygrub omggrub

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Looking to add a few more things now

solemn rivet Jun 5, 2018, 4:00 PM

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tha hard part now is handling case

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because your files are all in lowercase, but all other mods have proper capitalization

compact sedge Jun 5, 2018, 4:02 PM

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sorry :( I could fix my mods

solemn rivet Jun 5, 2018, 4:02 PM

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nah

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I'll figure something out

compact sedge Jun 5, 2018, 4:02 PM

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well then add .ToLower() maybe when comparing if the strings are the same?

solemn rivet Jun 5, 2018, 4:02 PM

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yeah, I'll do something like that

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also

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yikes, is this code messy

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oh boi

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I need to clean this up

compact sedge Jun 5, 2018, 4:03 PM

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Well I wasn't gonna look but:

Settings.cs
Settings1.cs

solemn rivet Jun 5, 2018, 4:04 PM

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wut

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oh

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settings1 is the icons

compact sedge Jun 5, 2018, 4:04 PM

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beats my naming convention so

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

solemn rivet Jun 5, 2018, 4:04 PM

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if (installedMods.Any(f => f.Equals(dependency + ".dll", StringComparison.InvariantCultureIgnoreCase))) continue;

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no, that's the VS default naming

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I can fix that, but I don't really mess with the icons at all

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so I don't bother

compact sedge Jun 5, 2018, 4:05 PM

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ahh ok

solemn rivet Jun 5, 2018, 4:06 PM

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I really should rewrite this from scratch

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this is so ugly

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I was learning as I went, se there are like a thousand residual bad ideas lingering around

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I think for now I'll rewrite the list filling method

lofty crescent Jun 5, 2018, 5:58 PM

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Does anyone have any tips on how I can start modding this game?

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 5:59 PM

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well

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with something easy?

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I just started modding not so long ago

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Is there anything you wish to mod specifically?

lofty crescent Jun 5, 2018, 6:00 PM

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Online coop e.e

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 6:00 PM

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Ooohh

compact sedge Jun 5, 2018, 6:00 PM

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uhhh

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 6:00 PM

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interesting

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but sounds

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uhhh

solemn rivet Jun 5, 2018, 6:01 PM

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uhhhh

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good

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luck

lofty crescent Jun 5, 2018, 6:01 PM

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ikr

solemn rivet Jun 5, 2018, 6:01 PM

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eh

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know c#?

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 6:02 PM

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How should this work?

compact sedge Jun 5, 2018, 6:02 PM

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tbh I don't know how to do online in any language

lofty crescent Jun 5, 2018, 6:02 PM

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Im guessing the API wont really apply to this?

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 6:02 PM

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from a coding perspective

solemn rivet Jun 5, 2018, 6:02 PM

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online is a nightmare

compact sedge Jun 5, 2018, 6:02 PM

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you'll need the API to make a mod that's compatible with other mods but it's not gonna help you with the multiplayer aspect

solemn rivet Jun 5, 2018, 6:02 PM

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if anything, I'd start with a local coop

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 6:02 PM

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local

solemn rivet Jun 5, 2018, 6:02 PM

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which shouldn't be terribly hard

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 6:02 PM

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yeah

compact sedge Jun 5, 2018, 6:02 PM

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only god can save you if you wanna do online coop

solemn rivet Jun 5, 2018, 6:03 PM

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time consuming, sure

young walrus Jun 5, 2018, 6:03 PM

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lol. good luck with that mod

solemn rivet Jun 5, 2018, 6:03 PM

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worth the effort? Prolly not

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but possible

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 6:03 PM

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(I wanna thank Gradow again for saying I did a lot)

solemn rivet Jun 5, 2018, 6:04 PM

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nah, mate

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you really did

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 6:04 PM

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happygrub

lofty crescent Jun 5, 2018, 6:04 PM

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So what is this API and how would I go about using it?

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 6:04 PM

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the API

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is a replacement to the Assembly-CSharp.dll file

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that allows you to use mods

solemn rivet Jun 5, 2018, 6:04 PM

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in short, that

young walrus Jun 5, 2018, 6:05 PM

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Pretty sure a multiplayer mod would require a complete rework of how the player functions work and how the game handles triggers and shit with that

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so have fun

lofty crescent Jun 5, 2018, 6:05 PM

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sure would

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But there can be shortcuts

solemn rivet Jun 5, 2018, 6:06 PM

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the API is a version of the game's assembly modified by the modding community to allow for loading external libraries during runtime

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and that's how most of HK's modding is done

lofty crescent Jun 5, 2018, 6:07 PM

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Ok

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Can I get a look at it?

solemn rivet Jun 5, 2018, 6:07 PM

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sure

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the source should be on github

lofty crescent Jun 5, 2018, 6:07 PM

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Uh

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Link?

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pls

solemn rivet Jun 5, 2018, 6:08 PM

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https://github.com/seanpr96/HollowKnight.Modding

GitHub

seanpr96/HollowKnight.Modding

Contribute to HollowKnight.Modding development by creating an account on GitHub.

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you can find the binaries in the gdrive in the pins

lofty crescent Jun 5, 2018, 6:08 PM

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Thanks

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oooo

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I can open it in visual studio?

solemn rivet Jun 5, 2018, 6:09 PM

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sure

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 6:09 PM

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yeah

solemn rivet Jun 5, 2018, 6:09 PM

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you need to copy the references from the game tho

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but sure

lofty crescent Jun 5, 2018, 6:10 PM

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o k

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will try

solemn rivet Jun 5, 2018, 6:10 PM

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if you simply want to take a look at the code, I'd suggest installing dnspy and opening the compiled binary

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easier tbh

lofty crescent Jun 5, 2018, 6:10 PM

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will try that too

solemn rivet Jun 5, 2018, 6:10 PM

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also dnspy = hklove

lofty crescent Jun 5, 2018, 6:11 PM

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Is there a link to dnspy somewhere

solemn rivet Jun 5, 2018, 6:11 PM

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pins

lofty crescent Jun 5, 2018, 6:11 PM

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taa

solemn rivet Jun 5, 2018, 6:11 PM

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anything you need in this channel should be in pins imo

compact sedge Jun 5, 2018, 6:17 PM

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Is there a way to make a collider not actually collide with anything? Just run a function on intersection?

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I can't see anything in the docs for it but maybe I'm just blind

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 6:20 PM

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won't making it infinitely small work?

compact sedge Jun 5, 2018, 6:20 PM

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no I want it to function as a trigger

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aka run a script when it collides

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I'm thinking just removing the Rigidbody2D will work

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 6:22 PM

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I wanna test something quickly

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which part of the animation does AfterAttack affect?

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is it the last frame?

solemn rivet Jun 5, 2018, 6:30 PM

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AA: running your script on onColliderEnter/onTriggerEnter won't work?

compact sedge Jun 5, 2018, 6:31 PM

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no the script runs but it ALSO acts as a collider

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even if I set the physics to kinematic

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but if the physics are kinematic

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I might as well not have them

solemn rivet Jun 5, 2018, 6:31 PM

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hm...

sage flare Jun 5, 2018, 6:37 PM

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Hi! Just want to say thanks to everyone for the amazing mods and helping me get set up yesterday. This is so much fun.

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 6:38 PM

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glad you're enjoying the mods people have made

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what mods did you try?

sage flare Jun 5, 2018, 6:39 PM

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So far, only the randomizer. It's so different, and I'm excited to try out the others.

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 6:39 PM

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Glad you are

sage flare Jun 5, 2018, 6:39 PM

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I'm used to the ALTTP Randomizer, but Hollow Knight is more constrained at the start so it's much more difficult

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 6:39 PM

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I found InfiniteGrimm really enjoyable and BlackMoth interesting, although hard

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and I'm currently adding stuff to my mod as well

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so I can release it sooner or later

sage flare Jun 5, 2018, 6:40 PM

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Nice! What do you have going in yours?

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 6:41 PM

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well

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it's a buff to a few nail affecting charms

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Fury of the Fallen,
Fragile/Unbreakable Strength
Longnail
Mark of Pride
Quickslash

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wait, I have a decription of changes here somewhere

sage flare Jun 5, 2018, 6:42 PM

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Nice - I'm a fan of the nail combat

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My first play through I think I never even used soul stuff

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Hardly ever anyways

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 6:42 PM

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List of changes
Fragile/Unbreakable Strength gives a powerful buff when at max health. Getting hit at max health deals double damage
Fury of the Fallen now makes you stronger based on health lost and not just at 1 health
Longnail Nail is now x1.5 longer. You deal x0.8 damage
Mark of Pride Nail is x1.75 longer. You deal x0.7 damage
Quickslash You attack very fast. You deal x0.5 damage

Combinations:
Fragile Fury - the Fragile/Unbreakable Strength activates at max health and at 2 or less health. You are constantly overcharmed
Long Mark of Pride - nail is x2.25 longer, but deals x0.5-x0.6 damage

trying to combine charms with different effects - Nail Length and Damage, Nail Length and Speed and Nail Length and Speed and Damage punishes you - you deal only 1 damage and your attacks are slower

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here it is

sage flare Jun 5, 2018, 6:44 PM

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Interesting...

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 6:44 PM

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I still have a few things to add

sage flare Jun 5, 2018, 6:44 PM

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Fragile fury instantly causes overcharmed?

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 6:44 PM

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the biggest one being a charm - Gods' Glory

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yeah

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Fragile Fury makes you very OP, but overcharmed

sage flare Jun 5, 2018, 6:44 PM

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Sweet!

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 6:45 PM

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I'll ask around and try adding it soon

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but

exotic venture Jun 5, 2018, 6:45 PM

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so long MoP + QS means very fast x2.25 range but at x0.25 dmg?

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 6:45 PM

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after a short break

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Oh

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I think?

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wait

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no

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that's a Punishmen

exotic venture Jun 5, 2018, 6:45 PM

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this is a buff?

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 6:45 PM

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no nail range and 1 damage

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had it not been for the Punishment it would have been so tho

exotic venture Jun 5, 2018, 6:46 PM

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mantiswhy

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 6:46 PM

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hehehe

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because

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I need a better reason to add the final charm

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also being stupidly OP isn't all that much fun

exotic venture Jun 5, 2018, 6:46 PM

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this mod is advocating nail users to kick the bucket and use spells instead

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wew

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 6:46 PM

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but you can have one of the older, broken versions

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where you end up with 400 damage the moment you get hit

exotic venture Jun 5, 2018, 6:47 PM

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literally the same vein as hell mod

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 6:47 PM

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Nah

sage flare Jun 5, 2018, 6:47 PM

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Random idea: what about a charm that makes the nail do zero damage and gives you a ton of soul each hit?

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 6:47 PM

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Um

young walrus Jun 5, 2018, 6:47 PM

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so.... dream nail?

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 6:47 PM

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the moment your nail damage becomes 0

exotic venture Jun 5, 2018, 6:47 PM

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^

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YEET

sage flare Jun 5, 2018, 6:47 PM

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Dream nail is slower though

exotic venture Jun 5, 2018, 6:47 PM

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what mick said

compact sedge Jun 5, 2018, 6:47 PM

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just make it 1 dmg then

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 6:47 PM

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you can't hit stuff

young walrus Jun 5, 2018, 6:47 PM

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dream wielder tho

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and then double soul

sage flare Jun 5, 2018, 6:48 PM

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Pogo

young walrus Jun 5, 2018, 6:48 PM

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super fast swing

sage flare Jun 5, 2018, 6:48 PM

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Guess that's fair

exotic venture Jun 5, 2018, 6:48 PM

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but yeah the damage nerfs already seem way too overkill

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longnail is basically MoP for 1 notch less but kicks damage in the nuts

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MoP curbstomps it into the ground

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and both of them just murder it

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 6:49 PM

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so, @exotic venture , the idea behind adding the punishment was that each effect was balanced by itself - getting a lot of damage had it's downs. Very big nail meant you don't get hit so easily, so keeping the original nail damage was too OP. So combining them you get away with the balancing on Longnail/MoP

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that's the reason I added it

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so you choose to either go super fast, super strong or from a great distance

exotic venture Jun 5, 2018, 6:50 PM

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but standalone they make no sense to use so mantiswhy

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 6:50 PM

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what do you mean?

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standalone they're already very OP

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Quickslash is like x3-x4 times faster than normal nail

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that's still double the DPS

exotic venture Jun 5, 2018, 6:51 PM

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Longnail Nail is now x1.5 longer. You deal x0.8 damage

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this just sucks though

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 6:51 PM

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Ok

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how about I do

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Longnail - x0.9 damage
MoP - x0.8
both - x0.7

exotic venture Jun 5, 2018, 6:51 PM

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also what the heck do you need all that range for anyway

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 6:51 PM

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idea is that it's now harder to get hit

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(I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU'D NEED SO MUCH RANGE, I'M JUST THE ONE WHO PROVIDES IT)

exotic venture Jun 5, 2018, 6:52 PM

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have you even tested what it looks like?

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 6:52 PM

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yeah

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pretty good

young walrus Jun 5, 2018, 6:52 PM

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you don't need to bounce enemies all over the room with heavy blow

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but hey, you have that option

exotic venture Jun 5, 2018, 6:52 PM

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doesn't it just look blatantly ridiculous though

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 6:53 PM

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it looks...

exotic venture Jun 5, 2018, 6:53 PM

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also heavy broken is just broken

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 6:53 PM

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interesting

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ok

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how about I change the punishment to work this way

exotic venture Jun 5, 2018, 6:53 PM

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maybe you don't need to alter them tbh

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 6:54 PM

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equipping 2 Godkiller charms Overcharms you

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equipping 3 punishes you

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now you can have Fragile MoP

young walrus Jun 5, 2018, 6:54 PM

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salubra punish me

exotic venture Jun 5, 2018, 6:54 PM

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mick no

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 6:54 PM

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(I just had to make a stupidly long na-)

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Mick

young walrus Jun 5, 2018, 6:54 PM

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mylajoy

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 6:54 PM

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Salubra's mere existance is torture

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go get Salubra's ~~blessing~~

young walrus Jun 5, 2018, 6:55 PM

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but then i'd have to change pants

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 6:55 PM

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punishment

leaden hedge Jun 5, 2018, 6:55 PM

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Just make them cost 420 notches

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 6:55 PM

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yeah

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I played around with that idea

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but

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what if the players wants to take their Compass and Gathering Swam and...

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ummm

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their

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uuuhhhhh

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Kingsoul

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and Hiveblood

compact sedge Jun 5, 2018, 6:55 PM

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you know what'd be cooler. Long nail does normal damage but takes a very long time to attack

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 6:55 PM

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and Joni's blessing

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AA

compact sedge Jun 5, 2018, 6:55 PM

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and it has a very narrow range

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 6:56 PM

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no

compact sedge Jun 5, 2018, 6:56 PM

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basically make it a spear

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 6:56 PM

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yes

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actually

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but

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Ok

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that's doable

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tommorow

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but I'll require your help for the Gods' Glory charm

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Ok

compact sedge Jun 5, 2018, 6:56 PM

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look I require help just to get stupid fireball physics

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it's hard

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 6:56 PM

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next version will rework MoP and Longnail into spears

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maybe add some charm description

sage flare Jun 5, 2018, 6:57 PM

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Or maybe Mark of Pride makes your nail the equivalent of the club the big guards use? Takes ages to hit but has big range and power? I dunno

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 6:57 PM

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I'll see

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but now

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nailsmith

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elderbug

compact sedge Jun 5, 2018, 6:58 PM

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make every charm turn the nail into a different kind of weapon

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 6:58 PM

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That's an itneresting idea

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but please

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let me sleep

compact sedge Jun 5, 2018, 6:59 PM

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Yes sleep. Have good dreams

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 6:59 PM

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I'll have

compact sedge Jun 5, 2018, 6:59 PM

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radiant dreams

flat forum Jun 5, 2018, 6:59 PM

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R A D I A N T D R E -

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WHY

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WHY ARE YOU SO FAST

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you're the prophet, right

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ok

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now seriously

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elderbug nailsmith

solemn rivet Jun 5, 2018, 7:26 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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code is so clean now

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worth the time imo

compact sedge Jun 5, 2018, 7:30 PM

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just make one region at the very start to hide all your code. then it will look 100% clean

solemn rivet Jun 5, 2018, 7:31 PM

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zote

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that's evil

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it's honestly cleaner now tho

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easier to navigate too

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https://gitlab.com/gradow/ModInstaller/blob/master/ModInstaller/ModManager.cs

GitLab

ModInstaller/ModManager.cs · master · Gradow / ModInstaller

API Mod Installer for HK

compact sedge Jun 5, 2018, 7:48 PM

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based on the force of gravity, 1 unity unit ~~~~ 10cm. And I know Graig said game code isn't canon but if people are gonna accept the quirrel thing then this seems legit too.

dusky lion Jun 5, 2018, 7:48 PM

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Quirrel thing is wrong.

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Also @copper nacelle I am ready

solemn rivet Jun 5, 2018, 7:49 PM

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quirrel thing?

compact sedge Jun 5, 2018, 7:49 PM

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oh quirrel must be dead because some game code calls him dead even though it's never mentioned in game

dusky lion Jun 5, 2018, 7:49 PM

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His sword is named quirreldeath.png when it is left behind at the Blue Lake.

solemn rivet Jun 5, 2018, 7:50 PM

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oh, that thing

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well

dusky lion Jun 5, 2018, 7:50 PM

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I don't think that to be true because it very well could have been a scrapped idea and they just never changed the name of the sprite.

solemn rivet Jun 5, 2018, 7:50 PM

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if code is canon, then Herrah was the FK

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just sayin

dusky lion Jun 5, 2018, 7:50 PM

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FK?

solemn rivet Jun 5, 2018, 7:50 PM

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false knight

dusky lion Jun 5, 2018, 7:50 PM

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Oh

exotic dune Jun 5, 2018, 7:50 PM

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Forest of Bones exists bc its in the localisation then

dusky lion Jun 5, 2018, 7:51 PM

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Forest of Bones should exist.

compact sedge Jun 5, 2018, 8:43 PM

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huh even if I set my game object to a layer that the knight isn't on the collider still collides with the knight. But not the floor?!

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adding ignoreherocollision fixes the hero part

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so I guess the hero collision code is independant of layer

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which is weird because all other collision code isn't

solemn rivet Jun 5, 2018, 8:46 PM

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that's weird

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knight doesn't collide with some objects like geo caches and destructable stuffs

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unless those are ignoreherocollision too

compact sedge Jun 5, 2018, 8:47 PM

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the normal behavior for the collider2d is they collide with all objects on the same layer. when they're attaced to a rigidbody2d they will also collide with all other rigidbody2ds that aren't set as kinematic regardless of layer

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as far as I know

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but for some reason the knight collision code seems independant of all this

compact sedge Jun 5, 2018, 9:17 PM

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yes this behavior is what I've observed. except they do run collision scripts with kinematic rigidbody2d they just don't push stuff/be pushed and will clip through these objects.

solemn rivet Jun 5, 2018, 10:39 PM

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there's only one thing left to fix in the installer

rain cedar Jun 5, 2018, 10:40 PM

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*that you know of

compact sedge Jun 5, 2018, 10:40 PM

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using / as slash instead of \

solemn rivet Jun 5, 2018, 10:40 PM

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there's only one thing left to fix in the installer

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for some reason, it's asking to install dependencies that are already installed

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after I fix that, I'll post a release here

compact sedge Jun 5, 2018, 10:40 PM

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oh or that

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rip ur internet btw

solemn rivet Jun 5, 2018, 10:42 PM

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my internet has been rip the whole day today

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AA: I can fix slashes, but is the folder structure similar in other OSs?

compact sedge Jun 5, 2018, 10:49 PM

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wdym

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actually I'll try to fix it

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don't worry about it

solemn rivet Jun 5, 2018, 10:52 PM

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I mean

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where is the Mods folder located on other OS?

compact sedge Jun 5, 2018, 10:53 PM

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same as windows except it's case sensitive

solemn rivet Jun 5, 2018, 10:54 PM

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hm..

compact sedge Jun 5, 2018, 10:54 PM

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The correct case sensitive path is:
hollow_knight_Data/Managed/Mods

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much to half the modders' displeasure I pinged like 4 people almost a week ago because they had a zip file with the wrong case sensitive structure.

solemn rivet Jun 5, 2018, 10:55 PM

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yeah

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I should have fixed mine

compact sedge Jun 5, 2018, 10:56 PM

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You didn't have any problems with yours

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I pinged ttacco, kerr, and kdt who each had exactly 1 mod with the wrong structure and all others with the proper one.

solemn rivet Jun 5, 2018, 10:56 PM

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oh

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okay

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everything should be working now

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there are still some residual stuff from failed features, but they're not that visible anymore

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virus.exe

📎 ModInstaller.exe

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AA: https://gitlab.com/gradow/ModInstaller/blob/master/ModInstaller/ModManager.cs#L32 if you want to, you can add mac/linux default paths here as well

GitLab

ModInstaller/ModManager.cs · master · Gradow / ModInstaller

API Mod Installer for HK

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mods should also be in alphabetic order now

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so that's neat

compact sedge Jun 5, 2018, 11:18 PM

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defaultPaths.Add($@"Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight")
please tell me nobody actually installs steam like this to just the root of their C drive.

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not hating but I'm just confused

solemn rivet Jun 5, 2018, 11:19 PM

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no

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56 has it in the root of his D drive

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he likes the D

compact sedge Jun 5, 2018, 11:19 PM

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ok that's reasonable it just seems weird having it on the C drive where there's a bunch of folders and files

solemn rivet Jun 5, 2018, 11:19 PM

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yeah

gray nymph Jun 5, 2018, 11:43 PM

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the hollow knight rando tracker doesnt connect for my friend, any ideas why?

solemn rivet Jun 5, 2018, 11:43 PM

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ehhh

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Vmi was complaining about it sometime ago

solemn rivet Jun 6, 2018, 12:00 AM

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Updated download link for the modinstaller in pins

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 12:08 AM

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Hey how do I switch out the sprite on a SpriteRenderer?

When I run some code on the following SpriteRenderer with an existing sprite:

fireballSprite.sprite = Sprite.Create(fireballMagmas[frame], r, Vector2.zero); fireballSprite.enabled = true; fireballSprite.color = Color.white;
my object just disappears

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the code runs btw but idk what I'm doing wrong

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it iterates through all the frames too

solemn rivet Jun 6, 2018, 12:16 AM

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maybe it's behind the background?

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 12:16 AM

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the image renders fine as the fireball but when I switch it to the magma sprite it disappears

solemn rivet Jun 6, 2018, 12:17 AM

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dunno then

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 12:17 AM

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https://gitlab.com/natis1/redwing/blob/master/redwing/redwing_fireball_behaviors.cs#L151 this is my code

GitLab

redwing/redwing_fireball_behaviors.cs · master · Eli Stone / redwing

A firey Hollow Knight mod/addon for Blackmoth

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idk if there's any glaring problems or if I'm doing this all wrong

solemn rivet Jun 6, 2018, 12:21 AM

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if you set it to specific frame instead of looping through the frames, does it work?

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 12:23 AM

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no

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ok nvm I found the problem I'm actually stupid

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my sprite is blank

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whoops

solemn rivet Jun 6, 2018, 12:26 AM

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yeah, was about to say that

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you never do anything with fireballMagmas

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 12:27 AM

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no I do it's just

[INFO]:[Redwing] Unable to build fireball magmas. Error System.IndexOutOfRangeException: Array index is out of range.

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so messed up my gen code

copper nacelle Jun 6, 2018, 1:42 AM

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git reset --hard

solemn rivet Jun 6, 2018, 1:43 AM

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wut

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 1:43 AM

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oh I fixed it btw just had the wrong variable in a for loop

solemn rivet Jun 6, 2018, 1:43 AM

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nice!

copper nacelle Jun 6, 2018, 1:46 AM

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dēlët thîs

📎 Screenshot_20180605-214610.jpg

solemn rivet Jun 6, 2018, 1:48 AM

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git --gud

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oh

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someone was looking for you earlier today, 56

copper nacelle Jun 6, 2018, 2:08 AM

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oh yeah

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@dusky lion

solemn rivet Jun 6, 2018, 2:10 AM

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it would be fitting if his name was finchfinchfinch...finch 56 times

hazy sentinel Jun 6, 2018, 2:10 AM

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it would be fitting if 32 character limit

solemn rivet Jun 6, 2018, 2:10 AM

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although fitting it wouldn't fit thinkgrub

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 2:13 AM

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finch^56

warped sinew Jun 6, 2018, 2:48 AM

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Is it possible to mod an endless Colosseum?

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That would be pretty great

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Random enemies

hazy sentinel Jun 6, 2018, 2:49 AM

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graig get 15k on IG hard mode

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pls

warped sinew Jun 6, 2018, 2:49 AM

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What's the record??

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I played it a bit got to about 7k

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 2:50 AM

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I think veru has the best score right now

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 2:50 AM

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For InfiniteGrimm?

warped sinew Jun 6, 2018, 2:50 AM

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I was actually thinking of streaming some IG yesterday too

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 2:50 AM

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Oohhh

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I'd loke to see

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 2:50 AM

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People who have posted it in the discord the score is:

Verulean (9832)
Graig (~7500)
Me (5977)
56 (~5900)

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 2:50 AM

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For Hard Mode?

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 2:50 AM

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yes hardmode

warped sinew Jun 6, 2018, 2:50 AM

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Oh wow, yeah my highest score is about 7.5 k

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 2:51 AM

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shoot let me update it then

warped sinew Jun 6, 2018, 2:51 AM

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I didn't post a PIC tho

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 2:51 AM

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I'm gonna try hard mode as well

hazy sentinel Jun 6, 2018, 2:51 AM

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add a high score tracker imo

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 2:51 AM

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Your top scores are saved in your save file

warped sinew Jun 6, 2018, 2:51 AM

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Nah don't update it, I'll stream a better score :p

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 2:51 AM

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so you could send your save file and I could tell you your top score

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 2:51 AM

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I'LL TRY THE GPDSLAYERS AGAINST INFINITEGRIMM

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 2:51 AM

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but it doesn't tell me if you got it in hardmode or normal mode

warped sinew Jun 6, 2018, 2:52 AM

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I'm at work right now for the next 5 hours :(

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 2:52 AM

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(Make sure it says if it's hard mode)

warped sinew Jun 6, 2018, 2:52 AM

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I'll stream it when I get home

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 2:52 AM

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uhh keep working because I want me some GnG

warped sinew Jun 6, 2018, 2:52 AM

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Yeah of course hard mode lol

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 2:52 AM

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I'd love to see

warped sinew Jun 6, 2018, 2:52 AM

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Normal mode I don't think I would get hit

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mantiswhy

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 2:52 AM

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Hey

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 2:53 AM

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but if you do you can enjoy a good 60-100 hits without a single stagger

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 2:53 AM

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Gonna remake the Punishment system for GodSlayers

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 2:53 AM

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alright

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what do you have in mind?

solemn rivet Jun 6, 2018, 2:55 AM

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damn, I have to work on my IG scores

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 2:57 AM

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I really wanna not be second to last place but I also wanna work on my mod so I'm torn

warped sinew Jun 6, 2018, 2:57 AM

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Make Infinite Colosseum

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ok_grimm

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 2:57 AM

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smh let me finish ~~the next lightbringer~~ my small fire mod first

warped sinew Jun 6, 2018, 2:58 AM

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Heh

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 3:03 AM

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Infinite Colosseum...

warped sinew Jun 6, 2018, 3:03 AM

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@pearl sentinel would it be very difficult to mod enemy randomiser into an infinite Colosseum? Can the Colosseum even be edited??

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 3:03 AM

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Interesting idea

pearl sentinel Jun 6, 2018, 3:03 AM

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probably not too bad, it's an idea i had once for enemy rando

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 3:03 AM

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It can juat pick a random wave to spawn?

warped sinew Jun 6, 2018, 3:03 AM

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Imagine a timer and wave counter too

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 3:04 AM

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Yeah

warped sinew Jun 6, 2018, 3:04 AM

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Would be pretty great I think

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 3:04 AM

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Infinite Trial of Fools where the God Tamer randomly shows up

warped sinew Jun 6, 2018, 3:04 AM

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@pearl sentinel heh I knew you would have already thought about it

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 3:04 AM

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Infinite god tamer but every 500 damage you do spawns another random ToF wave on top

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 3:05 AM

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HAHAHA

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Y E S

hazy sentinel Jun 6, 2018, 3:06 AM

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infinite nightmare god tamer god

warped sinew Jun 6, 2018, 3:06 AM

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She riding NKGs back

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 3:06 AM

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Infinite Crystal Nightmare Radiant Primal God Tamer

exotic dune Jun 6, 2018, 3:06 AM

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God Tamer but every time you kill it, it spawns again with another God Tamer

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... Lords

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 3:07 AM

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I wonder if you could fight god tamer and NKG together

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What about a mod that pairs you against two random bosses

hazy sentinel Jun 6, 2018, 3:07 AM

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could probably just damage rush god tamer

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 3:07 AM

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Well

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A mod that pairs you against 2 random bosses may give you impossible encounters

exotic dune Jun 6, 2018, 3:08 AM

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anyone hard + watcher knights

warped sinew Jun 6, 2018, 3:08 AM

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Yeah imagine something like dung defender and...... White defender!?

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 3:09 AM

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Imagine Traitor Lord and Grey Prince Zote

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Imagine Noght King Watcher Knights

hazy sentinel Jun 6, 2018, 3:09 AM

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beta radiance + gpz 10

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 3:10 AM

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Cannot implicitly convert type 'int' to 'bool'

regarding this line

if (Punishment = 2)

warped sinew Jun 6, 2018, 3:10 AM

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Beta radiance basically just fight two radiance anyway

exotic dune Jun 6, 2018, 3:10 AM

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is punishment a bool

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 3:10 AM

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2 equals signs

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 3:10 AM

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ok

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 3:10 AM

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punishment is an int

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but 1 equals sign just sets punishment equal to 2

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 3:10 AM

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Ok

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 3:10 AM

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and doesn't compare

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 3:10 AM

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yeah

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should remember that

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so

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reworked the Punishment thing

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now combining 2 won't punish you

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but combining 3 will

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per asking from Mystery

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 3:13 AM

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any 2 is ok?

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 3:13 AM

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yeah

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and any 3 breaks

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 3:13 AM

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so what's the interaction between strength and the long nail

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for example

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like what's the damage output with both on and what's the range

wintry aurora Jun 6, 2018, 3:14 AM

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Oh an active channel

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 3:14 AM

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Range is still 1.5 and damage output at max health is 51

wintry aurora Jun 6, 2018, 3:14 AM

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Thank god

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 3:14 AM

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it gets set to lower after you lose your health

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(it gets set to the usual Longnail damage)

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without Longnail damage is 63

wintry aurora Jun 6, 2018, 3:15 AM

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Imma just watch you guys talk since i know nothing about mods and modding and coding and all that stuff

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 3:15 AM

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well

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we're talking about what do mod does right now

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so, no code talk

wintry aurora Jun 6, 2018, 3:15 AM

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Yay

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Is this the god~~of boy~~slayer mod?

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 3:16 AM

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yeah

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reworked the punishment

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 3:16 AM

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so what's the downside of strength

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I forgot

wintry aurora Jun 6, 2018, 3:16 AM

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What is even the punishment

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One hit death?

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 3:17 AM

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well

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almost no nail damage, nail is very slow

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uh

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yeah, always Overcharmed

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should I also empty your soul

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 3:17 AM

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I mean it's already stupid to try to play the game that way

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don't need to go to meme levels of stupid

wintry aurora Jun 6, 2018, 3:18 AM

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So either use strength and fotf or mop and long nail use all four and you get punished.

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 3:18 AM

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hmmmmmm

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use any 2 and you're just overcharmed, use any 3 and you're punished

wintry aurora Jun 6, 2018, 3:18 AM

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Any combination is allowed even range with damage charms?

copper nacelle Jun 6, 2018, 3:18 AM

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imo set soul limited, overcharmed, disable soul gain, and disable healing

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ez

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 3:19 AM

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AA, well, you're still gaining soul, so a Spell build in that case will work

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 3:19 AM

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not as much tho because super slow attack speed

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it's already so shitty nobody would do it

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 3:20 AM

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mmmyeah

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but

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 3:20 AM

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except for a meme video

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like "hey let me take FotF and fragile strength so my damage becomes 1"

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 3:20 AM

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there's always those people that go like "I'll do Path of Pain AND fight NKG with my hands tied to my back and only using my nose"

exotic dune Jun 6, 2018, 3:20 AM

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tbh why not just play Blackmoth and only use your nail

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quicker and easier

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 3:21 AM

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Ok

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leaving the soul as it is

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(maybe at least disable healing?)

wintry aurora Jun 6, 2018, 3:22 AM

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Can you combine a damage charm with a range charm without getting punished? Or are the only allowed combos strength and fotf or mop and long nail?

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 3:22 AM

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yeah

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you can combine any 2 of the God Charms and you'll just be overcharmed

wintry aurora Jun 6, 2018, 3:22 AM

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Nice, sounds really good.

copper nacelle Jun 6, 2018, 3:23 AM

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just overcharm w/ them

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ez

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 3:24 AM

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overcharmiing isn't a problem

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it's basically a minor setback

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time to test it against InfiniteGrimm

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maybe hard mode

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also

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QuickSlash's Damage is pretty low

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but try equipping it with Soul Eater

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and you'll end up with a not bad Spell Build

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 3:27 AM

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4 dmg nkg sounds like more than a minor setback but what do I know

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 3:28 AM

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?

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Why 4 damage

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Only case you'll get 4 damage is with Nail1 and Longnail

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oh, mentioning Longnail

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 3:29 AM

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no I mean being overcharmed while fighting NKG

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 3:29 AM

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you wanted me to rework those into Lances - thinner, but dealing the same damage

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 3:29 AM

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you take 4 dmg

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 3:29 AM

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Oh

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Yeah

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that

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isn't Good

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 3:29 AM

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and you say it's a minor setback

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but that sounds pretty reasonable

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 3:30 AM

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it's a minor setback most of the time

copper nacelle Jun 6, 2018, 3:30 AM

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corny

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 3:30 AM

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REWORK FRAGILE HEART INTO INFINITEHEALTH

wintry aurora Jun 6, 2018, 3:30 AM

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Lmao angle i think got 5k on infinite nkg and finds it easy to do it hitless

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Don't trust him

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He's evil

copper nacelle Jun 6, 2018, 3:31 AM

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what

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 3:31 AM

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dunq

copper nacelle Jun 6, 2018, 3:31 AM

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blue?

📎 unknown.png

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 3:31 AM

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Ok

wintry aurora Jun 6, 2018, 3:31 AM

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Didn't you get 5k on infinite grimm?

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 3:31 AM

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I have hard mode turned on

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time to test

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also, how do I change charm name?

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 3:32 AM

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actually 5977

copper nacelle Jun 6, 2018, 3:32 AM

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language get hook

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 3:32 AM

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but can't do repeating

wintry aurora Jun 6, 2018, 3:32 AM

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Anyways i might have to go soon. Since it's late

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 3:33 AM

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Blackmoth does something similar, but changes only descriptions:

                    case "CHARM_DESC_13":
                        ret = @"Freely given by the Mantis Tribe to those they respect.
Greatly increases the range of the bearer's dash, allowing them to strike foes from further away.";
                        break;

copper nacelle Jun 6, 2018, 3:33 AM

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have u tried

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using

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the

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language

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get

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hook

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u dungo

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 3:33 AM

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blackmoth does too

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use that hook

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 3:33 AM

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no

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I mean

copper nacelle Jun 6, 2018, 3:33 AM

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GWeulixThonk

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blackmoth also changes charm names

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ur bad

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 3:34 AM

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really?

copper nacelle Jun 6, 2018, 3:34 AM

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yeah

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longdash

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etc

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 3:34 AM

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oh yes

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I neeed to learn to read

copper nacelle Jun 6, 2018, 3:35 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/445780322815049728.png?v=1

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 3:36 AM

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there's a CornyWokest emoji

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go get and use that one

copper nacelle Jun 6, 2018, 3:37 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/445780330784489504.png?v=1

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 3:37 AM

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Y E S

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 3:53 AM

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'GodKillers.Description(string, string)': not all code paths return a value
regarding this

string Description(string key, string sheet)

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 3:53 AM

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return the default key and sheet if you aren't editing it

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 3:53 AM

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I have this right under it

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string ret = Language.Language.GetInternal(key, sheet);
            if (sheet == "UI")

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 3:53 AM

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https://gitlab.com/natis1/infinitegrimm/blob/master/infinitegrimm/InfiniteTent.cs#L40

GitLab

infinitegrimm/InfiniteTent.cs · master · Eli Stone / infinitegrimm

A Hollow Knight mod to make Grimm replayable in an endless, increasingly difficult battle.

copper nacelle Jun 6, 2018, 3:54 AM

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have u tried showing the whole code

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 3:54 AM

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see this except I have my key and value backwards

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but otherwise it's right

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notice line 46 at the end

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 3:54 AM

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@copper nacelle
here's the whole thing

        string Description(string key, string sheet)
        {
            string ret = Language.Language.GetInternal(key, sheet);
            if (sheet == "UI")
            {
                switch (key)
                {

copper nacelle Jun 6, 2018, 3:54 AM

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that's objectively false

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 3:54 AM

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whole thing

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doesn't have closing brackets

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 3:55 AM

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I mean

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 3:55 AM

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found your problem

copper nacelle Jun 6, 2018, 3:55 AM

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have u tried looking at the word

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whole

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 3:55 AM

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I didn't want to put the entire part with the descriptions in here

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 3:55 AM

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jesus use git or something so you can link the line

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 3:55 AM

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string Description(string key, string sheet)
        {
            string ret = Language.Language.GetInternal(key, sheet);
            if (sheet == "UI")
            {
                switch (key)
                {
                    case "CHARM_DESC_13":
                        ret = @"Freely given by the Mantis Tribe to those they respect.

Turns the nail into a Lance, greatly increasing its range, but decreasing its strength. Allows the bearer to strike foes from further away.";
                        break;

                    case "CHARM_DESC_18":
                        ret = @"Turns the nail into a Lance, increasing its range, but slightly decreasing its strength.";
                        break;

                    case "CHARM_DESC_25":
                        ret = @"Strengthens the bearer, greatly increasing the damage they deal to enemies when at full health,
But once the bearer loses health they will lose the power as well, only gaining it back after focusing.

This charm is fragile, and will break if its bearer is killed.";
                        break;

                    case "CHARM_DESC_25_G":
                        ret = @"Strengthens the bearer, greatly increasing the damage they deal to enemies when at full health,
But once the bearer loses health they will lose the power as well, only gaining it back after focusing.

This charm is ubreakable.";
                        break;

                    case "CHARM_DESC_32":
                        ret = @"Born from imperfect, discarded weapons that have fused together. The weapons still long to be used.
The Bearer will attack much more rapidly, but the attacks will be weaker";
                        break;

                    case "CHARM_NAME_18":
                        ret = @"Lance Nail";
                        break;

                    case "CHARM_NAME_13":
                        ret = @"Lance of Pride";
                        break;
                }
            }
        }

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too lazy

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here's the whole block

copper nacelle Jun 6, 2018, 3:55 AM

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where's the return ret

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 3:55 AM

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you don't have return ret;

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at the very end

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 3:56 AM

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...

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Ok

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thanks

copper nacelle Jun 6, 2018, 3:57 AM

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deletGrimmChild = false;

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 3:58 AM

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give me a break didn't know about IEnumerator

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and coroutines

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really redwing is the first project of mine to use them at all

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 4:05 AM

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LanceNail is pretty fun

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Also, the fact you can't combine many charms makes choosing charms trickier

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I used to always go around with Unbreakable Strength, Quickslash and MoP

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but now I can't quite

wintry aurora Jun 6, 2018, 4:08 AM

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Imo use strength and fotf

copper nacelle Jun 6, 2018, 4:09 AM

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imo use str fotf mop quickslash gathering swarm wayward compass

wintry aurora Jun 6, 2018, 4:09 AM

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Are other charms that aren't god charms allowed to go with two god charms and not punish you? @flat forum

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 4:09 AM

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not yet

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Hey, AA

copper nacelle Jun 6, 2018, 4:13 AM

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🅱🅱

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 4:13 AM

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ye

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 4:13 AM

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are you sure Hard Mode doesn't also affect the normal NKG fight?

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dude seems faster

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than usual

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 4:13 AM

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100% sure, ur just bad

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/s

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 4:13 AM

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Ok

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 4:13 AM

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if it's normal NKG the mod won't activate at all

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 4:13 AM

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gotta get used to it

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 4:13 AM

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although if you don't believe me check the log

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 4:13 AM

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I believe you

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 4:13 AM

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actually wait

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are you doing normal NKG with debugmod

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there's technically undefined behavior in my mod that can happen by setting NKG to false while in game. since that's never supposed to happen in any legit game.

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 4:14 AM

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normal NKG with debug mod and InfiniteGrimm

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 4:14 AM

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but shouldn't be anything major

copper nacelle Jun 6, 2018, 4:14 AM

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:ech:

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 4:14 AM

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ok

copper nacelle Jun 6, 2018, 4:14 AM

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iirc the fight still gets faster

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and then he dies

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if you do that

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 4:14 AM

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no

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well

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if you set killed NKG to false while in the tent you won't need grimmchild but the fight should still be normal

copper nacelle Jun 6, 2018, 4:15 AM

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what about outside the tent

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hollowwoke

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 4:15 AM

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if you set it outside the tent but in dirtmouth... shouldn't affect anything afaik

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if you set it while IN the NKG fight dream

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god help you

copper nacelle Jun 6, 2018, 4:16 AM

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unrelated how do you get superglue off a mouse

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 4:16 AM

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strong acid/base?

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probably not the best idea

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might melt the plastic

copper nacelle Jun 6, 2018, 4:16 AM

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can't find the nailpolish remover

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 4:17 AM

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rubbing alcohol

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maybe

copper nacelle Jun 6, 2018, 4:17 AM

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i don't have that

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finna find my micromesh

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 4:17 AM

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ur not doing anything with cloth and water

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if it's fully hardened

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go to sleep and do it tomorrow

copper nacelle Jun 6, 2018, 4:18 AM

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pain

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 4:20 AM

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beat NKG

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with Strength I'm very OP at full health, but then end up fighting NKG with Nail2

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 4:21 AM

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does strength get weaker when you lose health?

flat forum Jun 6, 2018, 4:21 AM

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yeah

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very OP at max health

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at 1 health below your max it's normal nail damage

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and then gets lower and lower

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FotF+FStrength negates that effect - makes you very strong at max health and very low health and sets your damage to a bit lower than normal otherwise

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gonna test it against InfiniteHardGrimm now

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FotF + Lance of Pride should be a good combo

copper nacelle Jun 6, 2018, 4:26 AM

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apparently if you set nkg to killed in the tent

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it just says you did 0 damage

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and if you have grimmchild the spawn breaks

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 4:28 AM

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and since you can't do that without cheating I'm not patching it

copper nacelle Jun 6, 2018, 4:29 AM

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is grimm supposed to talk in hard mode

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cause he doesn't

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 4:29 AM

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no, he's supposed to appear then disappear

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is that happening?

copper nacelle Jun 6, 2018, 4:30 AM

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yes

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i was trying to get him to talk

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but he'd just run away

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 4:31 AM

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infinite grimm features:
* Rewrites Hollow Knight lore

copper nacelle Jun 6, 2018, 4:31 AM

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and now I went out of the tent

compact sedge Jun 6, 2018, 4:31 AM

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from readme

copper nacelle Jun 6, 2018, 4:31 AM

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came back in w/out grimmchild

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went into the fight

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and have grimmchild

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wait no

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wtf

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i put on grimmchild instead of soul eater