#archived-modding-development | Hollow Knight | Page 103

rain cedar May 27, 2018, 5:02 AM

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He doesn't care about lore

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 5:03 AM

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neither does the knight

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b/c it doesn't read any of the journals

rain cedar May 27, 2018, 5:03 AM

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Maybe there's just no lore

copper nacelle May 27, 2018, 5:04 AM

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_lore

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 5:04 AM

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if you pay attention to the lore you'd learn the king was the bad guy and well if the knight learned that it'd have no purpose in life and would kill itself.

flat forum May 27, 2018, 5:04 AM

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;lore

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 5:04 AM

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``lore`

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 5:52 AM

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tfw you about to bugtest and are 99% sure something will break but you still have hope in your heart that everything will just go perfectly

flat forum May 27, 2018, 5:54 AM

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what broke?

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 5:55 AM

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uh idk yet but im now testing to see if it was my code or some code I copied off the internet but misunderstood

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it didn't even load :(

flat forum May 27, 2018, 6:05 AM

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public void OnAttack(AttackDirection dir)
        {
            LogDebug("Attacking");
            if ( PlayerData.instance.equippedCharm_6)
            {
                LogDebug("Special Attack");

                _tempNailDamage = PlayerData.instance.nailDamage; //Store the current nail damage.

                LogDebug("Set _tempNailDamage to " + _tempNailDamage);

               PlayerData.instance.nailDamage += 3*(PlayerData.instance.maxHealth - PlayerData.instance.health);


                return;
            }
        }

private void OnAfterAttack(AttackDirection dir)
        {
            LogDebug("Attacked!");
            PlayerData.instance.nailDamage = _tempNailDamage; 
        }

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(oops, wanted to save it separately)

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 6:16 AM

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How do I solve this error in my new mod:

Could not load file or assembly 'System.Drawing, Version=2.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b03f5f7f11d50a3a' or one of its dependencies.

It's a system assembly so I'm utterly confused.

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I need it to dump a sprite to see if it looks proper

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or if I messed up my code

rain cedar May 27, 2018, 6:17 AM

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Try putting it in the HK folder directly

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You shouldn't have to but idk maybe

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 6:18 AM

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disgusting

copper nacelle May 27, 2018, 6:18 AM

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works tho

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 6:18 AM

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where do I find system assemblies

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it's just for testing anyway

copper nacelle May 27, 2018, 6:18 AM

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C:\Program Files (x86)\Reference Assemblies

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\Microsoft\Framework\v3.5

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 6:19 AM

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isn't c# supposed to be like java and just effing work on every platform why are system libraries missing from unity

copper nacelle May 27, 2018, 6:19 AM

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i don't have System.Drawing in there tho

rain cedar May 27, 2018, 6:19 AM

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I reference it in debug and it works fine

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 6:20 AM

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ok what system.drawing isn't there

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yeah

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wtf

hazy sentinel May 27, 2018, 6:20 AM

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@solemn rivet pretty sure right now bonfire actually makes the game harder

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 6:20 AM

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it does earlygame

hazy sentinel May 27, 2018, 6:20 AM

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it does at every point in the game

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 6:20 AM

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that's the whole point

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if you do the math on the curves

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it shouldn't

hazy sentinel May 27, 2018, 6:20 AM

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no

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 6:20 AM

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you get OP faster than enemies do

hazy sentinel May 27, 2018, 6:20 AM

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stat upgrades have diminishing returns

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 6:20 AM

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oh

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maybe

hazy sentinel May 27, 2018, 6:21 AM

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bro

copper nacelle May 27, 2018, 6:21 AM

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they do

hazy sentinel May 27, 2018, 6:21 AM

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level 8 spell damage gives 1.95x multiplier

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0 dreamers enemy hp is 1.87x

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level 22 is like

copper nacelle May 27, 2018, 6:21 AM

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<Reference Include="System.Drawing" />

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from debug mod

hazy sentinel May 27, 2018, 6:21 AM

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2.62x

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 6:21 AM

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I could patch it so they're linear or better scale faster than other stuff

rain cedar May 27, 2018, 6:21 AM

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Yeah I told you I use it

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 6:21 AM

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where do I put this

copper nacelle May 27, 2018, 6:21 AM

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csproj

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but you should already have it

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 6:22 AM

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yeah I do

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because I added it in gui

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    <Reference Include="System" />
    <Reference Include="System.Core" />
    <Reference Include="System.Drawing" />
    <Reference Include="System.Xml.Linq" />
    <Reference Include="System.Data.DataSetExtensions" />
    <Reference Include="System.Data" />
    <Reference Include="System.Xml" />
    <Reference Include="UnityEngine">
      <HintPath>..\..\mods\UnityEngine.dll</HintPath>
    </Reference>
    <Reference Include="UnityEngine.UI">
      <HintPath>..\..\mods\UnityEngine.UI.dll</HintPath>
    </Reference>
  </ItemGroup>

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anyone know how to dump a bitmap from a texture without using System.Drawing at all

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or any image file

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idc

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assume I can get the raw color data of the texture.

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AKA a bunch of r, g, b, a bytes in order

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and I also know the metadata aka image size

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at this rate I'm thinking make a whole new project, copy the image making code there, and test it without unity

rain cedar May 27, 2018, 6:27 AM

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Just embed the image

copper nacelle May 27, 2018, 6:34 AM

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they're trying to make random textures

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 6:37 AM

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it wouldn't be procedurally generated if it was embedded now would it

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anyway I'm dumb and I tried to just make an exe which ofc won't work

copper nacelle May 27, 2018, 6:37 AM

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make every possible image and embed them

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 6:37 AM

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because it needs internal unity engine stuff for texture

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what if minecraft had every possible world just embedded in it

copper nacelle May 27, 2018, 6:38 AM

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high performance

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 6:39 AM

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just gonna stop using unity alltogether and use the System.Drawing bmp

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which is literally the same as a Unity.texture

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as far as I'm concerned anyway

rain cedar May 27, 2018, 6:49 AM

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System.Random rand = new System.Random();
int width = rand.Next(500);
int height = rand.Next(500);
int byteCount = width * height * 4;
byte[] bytes = new byte[byteCount];
rand.NextBytes(bytes);
Texture2D tex = new Texture2D(width, height);
tex.LoadRawTextureData(bytes);
tex.Apply();

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Random texture

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100% untested

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 6:49 AM

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ok so here's my problem now. the C# colors are bytes but the unity ones are floats from 0 to 1

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and if I rewrite my code it means redoing my math

rain cedar May 27, 2018, 6:50 AM

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byte/255

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Bam float conversion

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 6:51 AM

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other way around and it means adding about 12 conversions

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which ima end up doing for 24 extra lines

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but my hope is the math is correct

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maybe I should just apply my texture to the mantis gods floor and use that as my rest

rain cedar May 27, 2018, 6:51 AM

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Whatever floats your boat

copper nacelle May 27, 2018, 6:51 AM

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i mean

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i guess that'd work

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 6:51 AM

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the problem is it's kinda stretched out

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w/e ima just steal ur code

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and make my own giant rectangle

copper nacelle May 27, 2018, 6:52 AM

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lol

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 6:55 AM

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why do I need a mesh for a sprite

rain cedar May 27, 2018, 6:55 AM

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You don't

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Why would you?

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 6:56 AM

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why did 56 add one?

rain cedar May 27, 2018, 6:57 AM

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Idk

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Mesh is used for MeshRenderer

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Sprite is for SpriteRenderer

copper nacelle May 27, 2018, 6:57 AM

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yeah i used mesh

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and meshrenderer

pearl sentinel May 27, 2018, 6:58 AM

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tk2d sprites use meshrenderers

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 6:58 AM

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okthen

pearl sentinel May 27, 2018, 6:59 AM

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Because 2d toolkit was written back before unity 2d overhaul

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 7:00 AM

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56 pls

if (PlayerData.instance.defeatedMantisLords)
                PlayerData.instance.defeatedMantisLords = false;

you can't just do a hook on GetBool?

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you have to edit my save file

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sorry unrelated

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but sorry

copper nacelle May 27, 2018, 7:00 AM

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re i forgot to change that

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 7:00 AM

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I have to point it out

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are higher numbers for layers further in front or behind

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like if layer 8 is floor layer is 9 in front or behind

rain cedar May 27, 2018, 7:10 AM

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I don't think it's as simple as that

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I think the behaviour of layers is not standard across unity games

copper nacelle May 27, 2018, 7:10 AM

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i think it's just groupings

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 7:10 AM

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oh ok

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so I need z position then for layers

copper nacelle May 27, 2018, 7:11 AM

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yeah you still need a z i think

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layers are for defining some common functionality across unrelated game objects

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 7:12 AM

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do you ever set the floor's x,y, z coordinates because I can't see you doing that anywhere in your code

copper nacelle May 27, 2018, 7:12 AM

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CreateMesh

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 7:14 AM

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nah ur just making a mesh with its given width and height

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oh I see

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you just made the height such that at the origin, 0, 0, 0, it would be just tall enough to be the correct height

copper nacelle May 27, 2018, 7:15 AM

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yes

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 7:15 AM

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that's hacky af but props

copper nacelle May 27, 2018, 7:18 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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it's what unity had in their create plane tutorial

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 7:18 AM

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im imagining you in debugmod just slowly lifting your knight until it's at the height you wanted the floor to be at and reading the x,y off

copper nacelle May 27, 2018, 7:18 AM

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basically that but i just read the height when i was on top of the changing floor

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then adjusted it a bit

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and i made the length just super long

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 7:19 AM

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lol my generated object is in the distant background even though I set its z position to 100

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wait is lower z closer

copper nacelle May 27, 2018, 7:20 AM

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dunno

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i just set it to 0

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iirc

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might've been 0.001

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 7:21 AM

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this is what fireballs look like right?

📎 unknown.png

copper nacelle May 27, 2018, 7:21 AM

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yes

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 7:21 AM

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PERFECT

copper nacelle May 27, 2018, 7:21 AM

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what's with the outer edges tho

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also everything else

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 7:21 AM

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it's supposed to decrease down to about 40-60% opacity because I want to chain a bunch of these together

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it's clear I didn't think my code through very well

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but it's ok I'm happy it works just need to go over my math

copper nacelle May 27, 2018, 7:22 AM

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hollowknice

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oh fuck

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that reminds me

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after you beat mantis gods you get trapped forever

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 7:22 AM

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uhhh

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wait hold up you said you updated mantis gods today and you didn't even fix that

copper nacelle May 27, 2018, 7:23 AM

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forgot about that

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i forgot to put it in my to-do list

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so i just went down the list

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saw everything was done

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and released

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 7:23 AM

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ok setting z = -100 puts the fireball in front of the camera

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so you can't see it at all

copper nacelle May 27, 2018, 7:23 AM

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nice

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also imo set HeroWalkable and layer 8

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then you can jump on your fireballs for cool skips

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 7:24 AM

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lol

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I had that before but making it a floor inside another floor just lead to really glitchy clipping

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and dying on my main save because im dumb and forgot to use save2

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and restoring from a backup on that save cuz too lazy to kill shade

copper nacelle May 27, 2018, 7:25 AM

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nice

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 7:25 AM

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now to position it to jumpscare you when you spawn in at dirtmouth

📎 unknown.png

copper nacelle May 27, 2018, 7:26 AM

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what the fuck

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 7:26 AM

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I made it kinda big

copper nacelle May 27, 2018, 7:26 AM

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amazing-1.png when

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 7:27 AM

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also any way to look at an image without the filters of the area applied to it

copper nacelle May 27, 2018, 7:27 AM

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eat the filters

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 7:27 AM

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cuz I think part of why its blue is because dirtmouth

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I mean this is cool af but I need to see what a #nofilter pic would be

📎 unknown.png

copper nacelle May 27, 2018, 7:28 AM

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destroy the filters

rain cedar May 27, 2018, 7:29 AM

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Render it in screen space with canvas

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 7:30 AM

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thanks for the real answer

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except idk which one that is

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or how to do that I mean

rain cedar May 27, 2018, 7:31 AM

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I use canvas in here https://github.com/seanpr96/HollowKnight.RandomizerMod/blob/master/RandomizerMod2.0/Components/BigItemPopup.cs

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 7:31 AM

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ty

rain cedar May 27, 2018, 7:31 AM

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Gradow's hp bars are probably good to look at too

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 7:34 AM

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if I add the plane object as a child of the canvas will it work?

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or is that the wrong approach

rain cedar May 27, 2018, 7:35 AM

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What do you mean by plane?

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Like the fireball?

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 7:35 AM

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I have a gameobject of type plane right now because I was copying 56's code and that's what i'm using to draw my fireball

rain cedar May 27, 2018, 7:35 AM

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I'm not familiar with that

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 7:37 AM

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if this works I'm half expecting just a giant fireball to appear in front of everything

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the problem is you're using sprites which are PNG files and I'm using a texture which is basically unity's version of the bitmap

rain cedar May 27, 2018, 7:40 AM

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I create the sprites from textures though

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https://github.com/seanpr96/HollowKnight.RandomizerMod/blob/master/RandomizerMod2.0/RandomizerMod.cs#L56

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 7:43 AM

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reading unity docs this makes sense thanks

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 8:00 AM

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Thanks now I can look at it without a filter, you solved my problem @rain cedar (although I wish I could have just dumped an image but oh well)

📎 unknown.png

rain cedar May 27, 2018, 8:04 AM

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Nice

flat forum May 27, 2018, 10:28 AM

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there was a mod that added an enemy being made?

lucid pond May 27, 2018, 1:24 PM

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The chair near the Unn lake isn't removed when you don't get ability to leave there. It makes me fun after watching other people streaming.He saved there and couldn't leave there.

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hollowomg

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here

📎 unknown.png

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😂

burnt laurel May 27, 2018, 2:51 PM

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so i installed randomizer mod from the mod manager

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and now i can't uninstall it

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also blackmoth won't load for me

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like it just says "FAILED TO LOAD! Check ModLog.txt" but i don't know where that is

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is there any way i could fix that?

exotic venture May 27, 2018, 3:05 PM

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go to steam, and verify game integrity

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then try again

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probably.

burnt laurel May 27, 2018, 3:06 PM

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ok

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does it require any other mods to work?

exotic venture May 27, 2018, 3:06 PM

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don't think it does

burnt laurel May 27, 2018, 3:08 PM

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ok

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still fails to load

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hmm

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let me try running only that mod

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nope

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is it compatible with lifeblood update?

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where do i find the mod log?

exotic venture May 27, 2018, 3:13 PM

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hmm if the installer doesn't work, try installing it manually?

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maybe out of date API causes it

burnt laurel May 27, 2018, 3:16 PM

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so i just download the mod and put it in my mods folder?

exotic venture May 27, 2018, 3:16 PM

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and install the api from the pins

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should be 1.3.1.5

burnt laurel May 27, 2018, 3:16 PM

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ok

exotic venture May 27, 2018, 3:16 PM

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if uh

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if it's up to date

burnt laurel May 27, 2018, 3:18 PM

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uhh

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where's the api

leaden hedge May 27, 2018, 3:18 PM

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Pins

exotic venture May 27, 2018, 3:19 PM

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someone unpinned the 1.3.1.5 API cornywoke

burnt laurel May 27, 2018, 3:19 PM

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i dont see it anywhere

exotic venture May 27, 2018, 3:19 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/327461802311155714/436399641379078144/ModdingAPI_1.3.1.5_beta.zip here you go

burnt laurel May 27, 2018, 3:19 PM

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thank you

leaden hedge May 27, 2018, 3:20 PM

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Its in the drive 🤔

burnt laurel May 27, 2018, 3:20 PM

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now that just goes in the already created API folder i have, right?

exotic venture May 27, 2018, 3:20 PM

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nah, you install it directly

burnt laurel May 27, 2018, 3:20 PM

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im in my hollow knight folder

exotic venture May 27, 2018, 3:20 PM

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so you unzip and copy it in C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight

burnt laurel May 27, 2018, 3:21 PM

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i see a folder titled "API"

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so not that?

exotic venture May 27, 2018, 3:21 PM

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making sure it overwrites assembly-CSharp in Managed

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nope

burnt laurel May 27, 2018, 3:22 PM

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do i keep the API folder?

exotic venture May 27, 2018, 3:22 PM

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it shouldn't do anything after installing this API

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it's just used for the installer

burnt laurel May 27, 2018, 3:22 PM

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now how do i download the mod(s)

exotic venture May 27, 2018, 3:23 PM

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basically, these two files have to be replaced (ignore the NoMod folder- it's for storing inactive mods)

📎 unknown.png

burnt laurel May 27, 2018, 3:23 PM

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ok

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i did that

exotic venture May 27, 2018, 3:23 PM

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so it should look something like that with the Mods folder there with Randomizer in it

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then try booting it up and see if it works!

burnt laurel May 27, 2018, 3:24 PM

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but where do i put the mod

exotic venture May 27, 2018, 3:24 PM

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in the Mods folder

burnt laurel May 27, 2018, 3:24 PM

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ok

exotic venture May 27, 2018, 3:24 PM

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inside Managed

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if there is anything else in it

burnt laurel May 27, 2018, 3:24 PM

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nope

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its empty

exotic venture May 27, 2018, 3:25 PM

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then dump it in there

burnt laurel May 27, 2018, 3:25 PM

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do i just put the .zip file in mods?

exotic venture May 27, 2018, 3:25 PM

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no, you need the .dll

burnt laurel May 27, 2018, 3:26 PM

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ok

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so i downloaded it

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now to try it

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still failed to load

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it keeps mentioning "ModLog.txt"

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where could i find that

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what if i verify integrity and then manually install

exotic venture May 27, 2018, 3:32 PM

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didn't

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didn't you just do that

burnt laurel May 27, 2018, 3:32 PM

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no, when i verified the integrity, i continued to use the mod manager

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this time i wont use the mod manage

exotic venture May 27, 2018, 3:32 PM

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akjfsgkdfgfksagfksajfdlksajklfhlasfjsdlaf

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ok

burnt laurel May 27, 2018, 3:33 PM

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idk

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im out of ideas

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well

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aside from this

young walrus May 27, 2018, 3:34 PM

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Copy paste too stronk

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Opening zips final boss

exotic venture May 27, 2018, 3:39 PM

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Modding isn't so hard? Are you kidding me? When was the last time you saw such a complicated and complex manipulation of files? Modding puts the game on another difficulty level outside of the game, and we will be cursed if we ever see an experience so challenging again. Save editing ends runs. Cheat Engine ends runs. Modding ends your gaming career. You can keep your hardcore coding. I prefer manipulating the game in ways that are easy to understand.

burnt laurel May 27, 2018, 3:39 PM

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aaaand its still not loading

exotic venture May 27, 2018, 3:39 PM

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even after verifying integrity?

burnt laurel May 27, 2018, 3:39 PM

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yep

exotic venture May 27, 2018, 3:39 PM

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the fuck is it on

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are you on beta patch

burnt laurel May 27, 2018, 3:39 PM

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no

young walrus May 27, 2018, 3:40 PM

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Base game itself isn't even loading?

exotic venture May 27, 2018, 3:40 PM

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so you are on 1.3.1.5

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oh yeah do that first

burnt laurel May 27, 2018, 3:40 PM

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yes i am

exotic venture May 27, 2018, 3:40 PM

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base game

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no mods

burnt laurel May 27, 2018, 3:40 PM

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the game works but the mod fails to load

young walrus May 27, 2018, 3:40 PM

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Then you're doing it wrong. hollowdab

burnt laurel May 27, 2018, 3:41 PM

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wow

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never would've realized that

exotic venture May 27, 2018, 3:41 PM

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ok, last thing to do

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in the pins there is a step-by-step guide on how to mod HK from a clean install

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try doing that, and if that doesn't work

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try calling IT

young walrus May 27, 2018, 3:42 PM

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Download zip, open zip, copy paste folder to other folder location, replace files, done

exotic venture May 27, 2018, 3:43 PM

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but mick

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that is hard

burnt laurel May 27, 2018, 3:47 PM

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im confused by step 3

young walrus May 27, 2018, 3:47 PM

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All the mods are set up as a folder structure for where they need to go. Just copy paste the entire "hollow_knight" folder and paste it where the actual "hollow knight" folder is

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The folder structure you downloaded will put all the files in the proper place for you

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There's a video in pins that shows you this

burnt laurel May 27, 2018, 3:48 PM

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so just merge the 2 "hollow_knight_data" folders?

exotic venture May 27, 2018, 3:48 PM

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yes

burnt laurel May 27, 2018, 3:48 PM

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ok

exotic venture May 27, 2018, 3:48 PM

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then double check if everything is in place

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if yes, then good to go

burnt laurel May 27, 2018, 3:48 PM

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how do i merge

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i have "replace" and "skip"

exotic venture May 27, 2018, 3:49 PM

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you.. just say overwrite and merge when prompted

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replace

young walrus May 27, 2018, 3:49 PM

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Replace

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Skipping does nothing. It'll skip installing the mods

burnt laurel May 27, 2018, 3:51 PM

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i did everything in the steps

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step by step

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aaaand

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surprise surprise, it failed to load

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all the other mods work just fine

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or at least the ones i tried

young walrus May 27, 2018, 3:53 PM

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What mod are you even trying to install?

burnt laurel May 27, 2018, 3:53 PM

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blackmoth

leaden hedge May 27, 2018, 3:53 PM

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Blackmoth should work

burnt laurel May 27, 2018, 3:53 PM

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all it says is "FAILED TO LOAD! Check ModLog.txt for details"

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or something along those lines

leaden hedge May 27, 2018, 3:53 PM

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If its really recent it may require modcommon

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As angle was fixing some bugs with it

young walrus May 27, 2018, 3:54 PM

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Modlog is in your save folder location

burnt laurel May 27, 2018, 3:54 PM

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and where's that

leaden hedge May 27, 2018, 3:55 PM

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Pins say

young walrus May 27, 2018, 3:55 PM

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📎 Screenshot_20180527-105541.png

burnt laurel May 27, 2018, 3:56 PM

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ok

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this is the mod log

📎 log.PNG

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no clue what any of it means

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if i had to guess it has something to do with hooks maybe?

leaden hedge May 27, 2018, 4:01 PM

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Install hooks.DLL probably

burnt laurel May 27, 2018, 4:01 PM

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i did

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and it still fails

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i'm outta ideas

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i just wanna play blackmoth

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why must it be so difficult

copper nacelle May 27, 2018, 5:23 PM

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gradow was having the same issue yesterday

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idk if he put the fixed dll in the drive

steel valve May 27, 2018, 6:10 PM

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Make this into a mod

📎 IMG_20180526_215609.png

young walrus May 27, 2018, 6:11 PM

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No u

supple sigil May 27, 2018, 6:13 PM

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Exactly

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No

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Where’s white defender

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You need to put him in as well

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And also galien’s scythes

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And also the beast of god tamer

exotic dune May 27, 2018, 6:31 PM

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don't forget all 6 of the watcher knights at once

steep sail May 27, 2018, 7:22 PM

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there are 2 of them already

solid wagon May 27, 2018, 7:28 PM

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balls 😰

tranquil glen May 27, 2018, 7:48 PM

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would anyone happen to know how to create a program that could look through a large text document for the biggest numbers? zote

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 7:50 PM

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sort -n

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var=$(cat textdocument) echo $var | tr " " "\n" | sort -n

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this will split up the document at every space and new line and tab and then sort these by number

tranquil glen May 27, 2018, 7:52 PM

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where do i put that?

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also thanks

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 7:52 PM

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you on windows?

tranquil glen May 27, 2018, 7:53 PM

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yeah

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 7:53 PM

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go download something like this: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/install-win10 or https://www.cygwin.com/ if you're not on windows 10

and put it into a terminal

Install the Linux Subsystem on Windows 10

Installation instructions for the Linux Subsystem on Windows 10.

tranquil glen May 27, 2018, 7:54 PM

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ok thanks

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 7:54 PM

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sorry there's no native good windows tools to do it

tranquil glen May 27, 2018, 7:54 PM

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my other option is go through 45 text documents each of which has 2047 lines of numbers so i'll take it

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 7:55 PM

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for multiple documents do

cd folder/with/documents first

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and then var=$(cat *)

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to read all of them

tranquil glen May 27, 2018, 7:55 PM

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oh great, thanks

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 7:57 PM

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so sort -n just gives you the largest numbers at the bottom but if you want to know where they actually are in the document

you can then do

grep -C2 -r [paste number here]

and it will print the document name, and line with the number along with the 2 lines above and below it.

tranquil glen May 27, 2018, 7:59 PM

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nah, just knowing the numbers is all I need

solemn rivet May 27, 2018, 9:40 PM

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jeez

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I've been away for less than a day

copper nacelle May 27, 2018, 9:40 PM

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chat active at night

solemn rivet May 27, 2018, 9:40 PM

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and there's like infinite messages to read through

hollow pier May 27, 2018, 9:41 PM

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reading through messages

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more like

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 9:41 PM

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you read through the messages

hollow pier May 27, 2018, 9:41 PM

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press esc on every channel

copper nacelle May 27, 2018, 9:41 PM

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I read through #archived-modding-development and the speedrunning channels

solemn rivet May 27, 2018, 9:41 PM

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be back in like 5 hours

copper nacelle May 27, 2018, 9:42 PM

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elderbug

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 9:42 PM

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this but just modding

solemn rivet May 27, 2018, 9:56 PM

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k, back

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15 minutes precisely

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nice

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so

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@hazy sentinel only eggs and idols give free levels now

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@compact sedge in enemyhpbar I dumped some images to byte[] and back into sprites, if you wanna take a look

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@burnt laurel I have a fix, I'll post it shortly

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 9:58 PM

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I could dump them to byte[] the problem was I couldn't dump them as image files because the image libraries are broken

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my solution was to render them as sprites

solemn rivet May 27, 2018, 9:58 PM

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got it

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and I see you already got it working, so that's even better then

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 9:59 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/297468195026239489/450232057449152515/unknown.png this was my solution

solemn rivet May 27, 2018, 9:59 PM

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~~nice!~~ Nice!

rain cedar May 27, 2018, 10:01 PM

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That looks a lot better than the screenshots from yesterday

solemn rivet May 27, 2018, 10:02 PM

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it does

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I'm actually impressed

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@burnt laurel try re-installing blackmoth

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I added modcommon and hooks as dependencies to the xml and made it load after hooks

fair rampart May 27, 2018, 10:29 PM

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guys is there anyway to unbind stuff in debug mod? i somehow managed to bind spawn reset to A on my controller, and when trying to bind it to something i don't use i ended up screwing more shit up.

solemn rivet May 27, 2018, 10:30 PM

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I think there should be a settings file in your saves folder

exotic venture May 27, 2018, 10:31 PM

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yeah, deleting the settings resets it to default

fair rampart May 27, 2018, 10:31 PM

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okay, thanks, i was trying to find something like that but in a different folder

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btw what is the latest version? because i downloaded the one from the google folder and it keeps telling me that there's a newer one

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is it bugged or?

exotic venture May 27, 2018, 10:33 PM

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that's nothing of note

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if it works, it's fine

fair rampart May 27, 2018, 10:35 PM

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well uhh

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i don't know about that

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it doesn't reset the brooding mawlsomething

solemn rivet May 27, 2018, 10:37 PM

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and traitor lord

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but it's up-to-date

fair rampart May 27, 2018, 10:37 PM

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ah so there are some bugs, fair enough

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shame, last time i was playing it it could reset that guy no problem

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

copper nacelle May 27, 2018, 10:39 PM

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it's almost like major updates to the game without major updates to the mod may or may not affect the mod's functionality

rain cedar May 27, 2018, 10:39 PM

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Maybe you should fix it 56

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I'm not gonna

fair rampart May 27, 2018, 10:43 PM

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no offense meant dude, i have no idea about how the mods work and how updates affect them

copper nacelle May 27, 2018, 11:06 PM

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@fair rampart you're sure the mawlek spawn didn't work for you?

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you have to press respawn then leave the area then come back

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cause it just worked for me

fair rampart May 27, 2018, 11:06 PM

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yeah

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then what the heck

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i have 1.3.3 version of the debug mode and the latest non-beta version of hollow knight and it doesnt work for me

copper nacelle May 27, 2018, 11:08 PM

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wtf

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stopped respawning

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ok.png

fair rampart May 27, 2018, 11:08 PM

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fuckin rng dude

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oh wow nice

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if you reset without picking the shard piece and come back the shard disappears but the boss doesn't reset

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N I C E

copper nacelle May 27, 2018, 11:10 PM

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wait

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ok thanks

fair rampart May 27, 2018, 11:11 PM

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that means it kinda works? kinda

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anyway good luck on fixin that or something

copper nacelle May 27, 2018, 11:47 PM

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I love it when there are two activated variables and both are false but the boss still doesn't spawn

solemn rivet May 27, 2018, 11:47 PM

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boss respawning is hard

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I tried to mess with the old kein boss rush to make it a boss-practice mod

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but, man, was it hard to get some bosses to respawn

copper nacelle May 27, 2018, 11:48 PM

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yeah

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on the bright side enemy data was easy to fix

solemn rivet May 27, 2018, 11:49 PM

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thank god

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I still hope that we get close to no fsms in the GNG patch

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I mean, sure, leave them for bosses

burnt laurel May 27, 2018, 11:50 PM

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oh hey

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let's hope it works now

copper nacelle May 27, 2018, 11:50 PM

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yeah same

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hope what works

burnt laurel May 27, 2018, 11:50 PM

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blackmoth

exotic venture May 27, 2018, 11:52 PM

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depends on wilbo's mood really

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you all are at his mercy ~~and he could meme it up if he wants to~~

solemn rivet May 27, 2018, 11:52 PM

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wilbo = meme master

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 11:52 PM

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meh I could always downpatch

exotic venture May 27, 2018, 11:53 PM

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downpatch form GnG?

compact sedge May 27, 2018, 11:53 PM

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but then nobody'd play my mods because nobody else wants to give up GnG

exotic venture May 27, 2018, 11:53 PM

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yeah sure good luck

solemn rivet May 27, 2018, 11:53 PM

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can we try and bribe graig?

exotic venture May 27, 2018, 11:53 PM

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graig can't do anything

solemn rivet May 27, 2018, 11:53 PM

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he can plant ideas

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the seeds of chaos

exotic venture May 27, 2018, 11:53 PM

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ideas of more FSMs

copper nacelle May 27, 2018, 11:53 PM

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noot

solemn rivet May 27, 2018, 11:53 PM

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yeah, I guess

copper nacelle May 27, 2018, 11:53 PM

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delet this

solemn rivet May 27, 2018, 11:54 PM

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it's graig we're talking about

exotic venture May 27, 2018, 11:54 PM

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you can only pray to whatever deity you believe in there will be less FSMs and wilbo will not make spaghetti code or FSMs

solemn rivet May 27, 2018, 11:55 PM

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inb4 there's an actual class named Spaghetti

exotic venture May 27, 2018, 11:55 PM

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i wouldn't be surprised if there was

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but yeah, hope for the best

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he is the most fearsome man on the entire discord with clear reason

copper nacelle May 27, 2018, 11:58 PM

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corny

burnt laurel May 28, 2018, 12:00 AM

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oh sweet

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it works now

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thanks

copper nacelle May 28, 2018, 12:00 AM

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happygrub

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have fun

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blackmoth is great

burnt laurel May 28, 2018, 12:05 AM

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hmmm

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so i'm fighting one of those giant things with the huge club in the forgotten crossroads

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and it hit me and i went flying

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now i'm stuck in a wall

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 12:08 AM

#

also, the bug where you can't dash through them was unfixed, for some reason

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like, first lifeblood beta ver introduced that bug, for some reason

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then next versions removed it

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now it's back

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Y

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and, Dunker, sorry, I have no idea what causes that

burnt laurel May 28, 2018, 12:09 AM

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📎 20180527200915_1.jpg

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 12:09 AM

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yeah

burnt laurel May 28, 2018, 12:09 AM

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i've been stuck up here for a bit

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 12:09 AM

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enjoying the view?

burnt laurel May 28, 2018, 12:10 AM

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yeah

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nice view of the guy i cant murder

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its like i went noclip and just slowly flew into the sky

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i was just dashing into the guy and that happened

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 12:10 AM

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the thing is, there's nothing I'm doing with blackmoth (at least not this early in the game) that would cause that

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so I can only assume it's a vanilla bug

burnt laurel May 28, 2018, 12:11 AM

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eh

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probably

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i wonder how shields will work

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dont spoil it

exotic venture May 28, 2018, 12:12 AM

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game has bugs

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 12:12 AM

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well it used to be that if you tinked a shield your dash became useless

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and this is in vanilla too

burnt laurel May 28, 2018, 12:12 AM

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"game has bugs"

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hahaha funny pun

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 12:12 AM

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understatement of the year

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in every possible sense

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 12:13 AM

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^

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 12:13 AM

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also, AA, did you find anything that might cause this while looking through the FSM for sharp shadow?

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it's been a known bug in blackmoth - something hits you right as you finish dashing and BAM

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 12:13 AM

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yes I know exactly why it happens. basically there's a state that it enters that it's supposed to transition from after applying a hit to an enemy

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 12:13 AM

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stuck on the ceiling

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 12:14 AM

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oh not that bug idk

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 12:14 AM

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oh, yeah

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the tink one

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yeah, I figured it was something like that

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my first guess was that the game was somehow setting the attack type of the dash to a non-valid type

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so I manually set it to 0, and it didn't fix it

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then I figured that the game was setting it to type 0 (nail) but with 0 damageDealth

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but that also didn't fix it

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 12:16 AM

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Basically the "apply hit to enemy" function fails if you apply it to tink enemy and so the transition state name never gets set to the right name needed to progress to the next fsm state. so it runs out of actions to do in the state it's in so it becomes a dead, useless state.

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 12:16 AM

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That's... Stupid

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 12:16 AM

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idk how to explain it because I don't understand fsms fully

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but like if you did every action in the FSM state and your transition string isn't set to a string needed to progress then the FSM gets stuck in that state

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which makes sense but they just forgot to add on TINK transition to INIT

I could have added it but that wouldn't have been a 1 line fix

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so instead I did the hackier but it doesn't matter anyway fix of just setting it to the correct state

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if you want to implement a less hacky solution here's what the fsm looks like in its broken state but if the current solution doesn't break anything then I don't see why you should bother.

📎 sharpshadowobj2.txt

burnt laurel May 28, 2018, 12:35 AM

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the "stuck in the ceiling" bug tends to happen when you get hit right after dashing

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like i dashed through false knight, but i didn't get all the way past him

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so i dashed and went straight from dashing to getting hit

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and then i got flung into the ceiling

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any charm recommendations?

rain cedar May 28, 2018, 12:49 AM

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Wayward compass

burnt laurel May 28, 2018, 12:49 AM

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inb4 wayward compass makes your shadow dash 1-hit anything

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kills everything in the room when combined with gathering swarm

#

is there a list somewhere that tells me what charms are changed?

young walrus May 28, 2018, 12:58 AM

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Almost like there's a mod readme

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📎 Screenshot_20180527-195745.png

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 12:58 AM

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great, that's outdated

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no spoilers

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happygrub

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tbh just play the game and get the charms to see what they do

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they have in-game descriptions, so

rain cedar May 28, 2018, 12:59 AM

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The secret with readmes is to put basically no effort into them because nobody reads them anyway

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 12:59 AM

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^

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that's me

young walrus May 28, 2018, 12:59 AM

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^

burnt laurel May 28, 2018, 1:00 AM

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so do the descriptions of the charms change too?

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 1:00 AM

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yup

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and other items...

burnt laurel May 28, 2018, 1:00 AM

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nice

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 1:00 AM

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and their names

young walrus May 28, 2018, 1:00 AM

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📎 Screenshot_20180527-200029.png

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 1:01 AM

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wut

young walrus May 28, 2018, 1:01 AM

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"they have in game descriptions"

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"so do their descriptions change?"

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thinkgrub

burnt laurel May 28, 2018, 1:02 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

rain cedar May 28, 2018, 1:02 AM

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To be fair regardless of if the in game descriptions changed they still would have descriptions

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Just not necessarily accurate ones

young walrus May 28, 2018, 1:02 AM

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Still can't be as good as the rando changes

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"reddit is never wrong"

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Hahahaha. Loved that one

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 1:03 AM

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wut

#

what item has that

rain cedar May 28, 2018, 1:03 AM

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I think it's on steady body

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 1:03 AM

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wait why are "things this mod changes" considered spoilers

young walrus May 28, 2018, 1:03 AM

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Stalwart shell I think?

rain cedar May 28, 2018, 1:03 AM

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One of the bad melee build charms

young walrus May 28, 2018, 1:04 AM

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Steady body had a comment about holding a direction

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 1:04 AM

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because I like seeing how surprised people react when they get certain items

rain cedar May 28, 2018, 1:04 AM

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Oh right steady body is the one about walking into enemies

young walrus May 28, 2018, 1:04 AM

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Yup

burnt laurel May 28, 2018, 1:04 AM

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spoilers

copper nacelle May 28, 2018, 1:04 AM

#

s h h

burnt laurel May 28, 2018, 1:04 AM

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actually idc

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 1:04 AM

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honestly I was surprised by the default 0 charm 0 upgrade blackmoth dash

burnt laurel May 28, 2018, 1:04 AM

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if its spoiling stuff like charms, i'd like to know what charms i should go for getting

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 1:05 AM

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m8 you're using a turbo button

young walrus May 28, 2018, 1:05 AM

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All of em

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 1:05 AM

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shh

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 1:05 AM

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most people can't dash that fast

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 1:05 AM

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neither can I

copper nacelle May 28, 2018, 1:05 AM

#

I couldn't manage invincibility

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even when I tried

burnt laurel May 28, 2018, 1:05 AM

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uhhh

#

enemy hp bar mod takes hooks

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right?

copper nacelle May 28, 2018, 1:05 AM

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yes iirc

burnt laurel May 28, 2018, 1:06 AM

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hmm

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well then

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 1:06 AM

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idk what to say though because even without turbo the steam controller makes it REALLY easy to mash buttons quickly

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like so easy that I can almost get invincibility without it

burnt laurel May 28, 2018, 1:06 AM

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i have hooks but the hp bar mod fails to load

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here we go again

copper nacelle May 28, 2018, 1:07 AM

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corny

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 1:07 AM

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y'all give me shit for using the steam controller but it's such a good controller.

Also post ur log

burnt laurel May 28, 2018, 1:08 AM

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post a screenshot or post the actual file for it

young walrus May 28, 2018, 1:08 AM

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grimm H O R I grimm

burnt laurel May 28, 2018, 1:08 AM

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or does it not matter

copper nacelle May 28, 2018, 1:08 AM

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shit for the turbo button imo

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I was considering getting the steam controller but I got the xbone instead

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 1:08 AM

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sorry for your loss

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 1:09 AM

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post the actual file

young walrus May 28, 2018, 1:09 AM

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Wow, See Me talking about it, still won't get a hori

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zote

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 1:09 AM

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also, do you have modcommon?

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 1:09 AM

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is there a program like this for xbox controllers on windows @copper nacelle

📎 unknown.png

copper nacelle May 28, 2018, 1:09 AM

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dunno

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never bothered changing anything for my controller

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thanks for the idea

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 1:09 AM

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well then ur missing out because this program is awesome

young walrus May 28, 2018, 1:09 AM

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I think there is

copper nacelle May 28, 2018, 1:10 AM

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I'll flash firmware onto it

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 1:10 AM

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can xbox360ce do that?

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 1:10 AM

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no firmware needed

copper nacelle May 28, 2018, 1:10 AM

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like I did to my keyboard

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 1:10 AM

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probably. I'm a big fan of SC controller but idk if it works on xbox

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I know it works for steam controllers and PS4 ones

burnt laurel May 28, 2018, 1:11 AM

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📎 log.PNG

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 1:11 AM

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that's not the file

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 1:11 AM

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ffs

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hooks

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 1:11 AM

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also yeah

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 1:12 AM

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can anyone set the priority of hooks to 0 or smth?

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 1:12 AM

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where hooks at and where modcommon at

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idk if modcommon needed

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but where hooks at

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 1:12 AM

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hooks works, because blackmoth needs it and it's running

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the issue is, once again, load order

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hpbars is loading before hooks

burnt laurel May 28, 2018, 1:12 AM

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yeah i just have hooks, blackmoth, and enemy hp bar

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 1:12 AM

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SEE this is why YALL need 56's hooks in modding api patch

#

why is this not accepted yet

burnt laurel May 28, 2018, 1:13 AM

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hmm

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 1:13 AM

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do you have a link to the pr/binary?

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 1:13 AM

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uh I have a binary but only built for lifeblood beta

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 1:13 AM

#

oh

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 1:13 AM

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56 can link the repo

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https://github.com/5FiftySix6/HollowKnight.Modding

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ok ill do it

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it basically globs everything important into the assembly c# file including hooks so it becomes like a 9MB file

#

but it includes the unity engine stuff too

copper nacelle May 28, 2018, 1:14 AM

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https://github.com/seanpr96/HollowKnight.Modding/pull/14

GitHub

Adds MonoMod's Runtimedetour hooks to the assembly by 5FiftySix6 ...

also updates monomod

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 1:14 AM

#

oh

copper nacelle May 28, 2018, 1:14 AM

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doesn't include unity engine

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just assembly and playmaker

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 1:15 AM

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lemme compile that rq

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 1:15 AM

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no ur right assembly playmaker, and a bunch of monomod stuff

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I want Seanpr to accept it though because right now I'm the only one using the ideal modding API. aka your changes plus the newest commit which fixes exception after OnDashPressed

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not that the exception is a big deal or anything but it means only one mod can do a hook for OnDashPressed

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because it will cause an exception after the first mod and not run the second mod's code

copper nacelle May 28, 2018, 1:17 AM

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compile monomod hooks for the other mod

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And hook the other mod's ondashpressed handler

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 1:18 AM

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lul

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but that means the person needs to install the other mod to use my mod

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and that's stupid

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 1:18 AM

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56 can you compile a version of hooks that has priority 0 or something

copper nacelle May 28, 2018, 1:18 AM

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uhh

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how tho

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 1:19 AM

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how what?

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 1:19 AM

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if you have a class that extends type Mod then do https://github.com/natis1/grimmchildupgrades/blob/master/grimmchildupgrades/Grimmchild Upgrades.cs#L142

GitHub

natis1/grimmchildupgrades

grimmchildupgrades - A Hollow Knight mod for a better Grimmchild

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and if not then idk that you can

copper nacelle May 28, 2018, 1:20 AM

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hooks is just hooks

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no mod class

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 1:20 AM

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sadgrub

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 1:20 AM

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then what even loads it

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 1:20 AM

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magic does

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 1:20 AM

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like ur telling me just dropping a DLL called modhooks in there without any API to load it and it somehow works

copper nacelle May 28, 2018, 1:20 AM

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api loads it

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 1:21 AM

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I think the API loads every dll in that folder

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yeah

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 1:21 AM

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so you drop it in the mods folder

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oh I thought y'all were sticking hooks one directory higher

burnt laurel May 28, 2018, 1:22 AM

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wait, how would hpbar be having problems if it was just working earlier today

copper nacelle May 28, 2018, 1:22 AM

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e c h

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I'll try and get it loading earlier whenever I get home

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 1:24 AM

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use this

📎 EnemyHPBar.dll

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and this, just to be safe

📎 Blackmoth.dll

burnt laurel May 28, 2018, 1:26 AM

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me?

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 1:27 AM

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you

burnt laurel May 28, 2018, 1:28 AM

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ok

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uhh

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i try to download it

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and it wont download

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like it just leads to an untitled page that does nothing

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 1:33 AM

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I downloaded them rn

copper nacelle May 28, 2018, 1:33 AM

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cornywoke

burnt laurel May 28, 2018, 1:34 AM

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hmmmmm

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i think it might be an issue on my end

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 1:34 AM

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it's just a ~~virus~~ mod

rain cedar May 28, 2018, 1:40 AM

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So I just found out something fun

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Monomod hooks throw an error if you try to remove something from them that isn't in it

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Fucking annoying "feature"

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Now I need like 10 try/catches

copper nacelle May 28, 2018, 1:41 AM

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wdym

rain cedar May 28, 2018, 1:41 AM

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On.GeoRock.OnEnable -= RegisterGeoRock;

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Throws an error if RegisterGeoRock isn't registered on the hook

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 1:42 AM

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can't you use reflection to pool all methods that are subscribed to that hook?

rain cedar May 28, 2018, 1:43 AM

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Why would I ever want to do that?

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 1:43 AM

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to unsubscribe RegisterGeoRock?

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if it is subscribed

rain cedar May 28, 2018, 1:43 AM

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Seems like way more work than just using try/catch

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 1:43 AM

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yeah, I guess

rain cedar May 28, 2018, 1:43 AM

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Or monomod could just silently fail like every other hook system I've used

burnt laurel May 28, 2018, 1:46 AM

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so i downloaded the things you listed

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and still failed to load

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 1:47 AM

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wut

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send modlog

burnt laurel May 28, 2018, 1:48 AM

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i am

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📎 log.PNG

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 1:48 AM

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wait wait

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that's an api error

burnt laurel May 28, 2018, 1:48 AM

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all this struggle just so i can see when an enemy dies

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 1:49 AM

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the method that it's not being able to load is from the API, not hooks

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huh

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weird

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what api version do you have?

burnt laurel May 28, 2018, 1:49 AM

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the one you gave me earlier

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 1:49 AM

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I didn't give you api

burnt laurel May 28, 2018, 1:49 AM

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wait no

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not you

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someone else

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i think it's 1.3.5.1 or something

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lemme double check

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 1:50 AM

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that's game version

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1.3.1.5

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send a screenshot of the title screen

burnt laurel May 28, 2018, 1:50 AM

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in-game?

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 1:50 AM

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well, yeah

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lemme see what I get

📎 unknown.png

burnt laurel May 28, 2018, 1:51 AM

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oh

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hold on

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 1:52 AM

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working fine

📎 unknown.png

burnt laurel May 28, 2018, 1:52 AM

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"ModdingAPI_1.3.1.5_beta.zip"

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thats the name of the one i have

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someone gave it to me to try and fix blackmoth i think

rain cedar May 28, 2018, 1:53 AM

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Just get it off the drive

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Or from the installer

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 1:53 AM

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working fine

📎 unknown.png

burnt laurel May 28, 2018, 1:53 AM

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oh, i can use the mod manager?

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 1:53 AM

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sure

burnt laurel May 28, 2018, 1:53 AM

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nice

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still want that screenshot?

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 1:54 AM

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but only for the api for now

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nah

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the thing is, the mods aren't broken

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but the api should load hooks before loading the mods

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and it's not doing that, for some reason

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so the dlls I sent you delay the loading of the mods, so hooks can load safely

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but as soon as hooks is part of the api, that won't be needed

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so I won't add those versions to the gdrive

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they're sort of a "temporary fix"

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public override int LoadPriority() => 69;

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because I have the mind of a 13 year old

copper nacelle May 28, 2018, 1:56 AM

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nice

burnt laurel May 28, 2018, 2:02 AM

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should i fight the brooding mawlek?

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 2:03 AM

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did it work?

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also, why not?

burnt laurel May 28, 2018, 2:05 AM

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yeah it worked

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also it's fairly difficult to get to the arena, that's why

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and i'm not the most skilled

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got it down to a bit below half

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not bad

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 2:07 AM

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Niko was working on new designs for the bosses' hp bars

burnt laurel May 28, 2018, 2:08 AM

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"fairly difficult to get to the arena" i say, as i do the nail pogo in 1 try

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best part of the mod:

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i can bypass a few things early game

pearl sentinel May 28, 2018, 2:24 AM

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@rain cedar just got out of a thing for my wife's family, but will get the pr asap. If I can refactor out the additional dependency is that ok?

rain cedar May 28, 2018, 2:25 AM

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You'd probably have to remake the GeoControl component to do that

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But if you want to go for it

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Also not sure how you would detect geo drops

pearl sentinel May 28, 2018, 2:27 AM

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I'd add harmony source to mod common since it's runtime and MIT.

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Then replace the hooks with that

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Tested it with a demo at work so I know harmony will integrate

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 2:29 AM

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what is harmony

pearl sentinel May 28, 2018, 2:30 AM

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Google github harmony

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Gotta drive now

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 2:31 AM

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cool

tight zephyr May 28, 2018, 2:36 AM

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Hello

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I have a question for whoever made or played blackmoth

copper nacelle May 28, 2018, 2:37 AM

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ask imo

burnt laurel May 28, 2018, 2:37 AM

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well we have both here

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so ask away

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or dont

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that works too

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 2:45 AM

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hey maybe they just wanted to tell us they had a question and didn't actually want to ask it

burnt laurel May 28, 2018, 2:45 AM

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yeah you're right

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huh

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never thought about it that way

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this changes everything

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also blackmoth is like

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my favorite mod so far

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 2:46 AM

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same but I'm playing it the absolutely unintended way so my opinion doesn't count

burnt laurel May 28, 2018, 2:47 AM

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if only i could dash upwards and downwards

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 2:47 AM

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at the same time?

burnt laurel May 28, 2018, 2:47 AM

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no

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but like

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i wanna attack up and down instead of just left and right

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i know dashmaster has a downward dash ability

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 2:47 AM

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mothwing cloak imo

burnt laurel May 28, 2018, 2:47 AM

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or at least it did

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 2:47 AM

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go fight hornet

burnt laurel May 28, 2018, 2:47 AM

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ok

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i can skip so many puzzles intended for pre-hornet

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 2:52 AM

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Shhh

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But yeah

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Beat hornet1

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Like asap

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 2:53 AM

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smh should have made beating hornet do nothing since the player can already dash

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 2:53 AM

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Heh

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I didn't want to make the item go to waste tho

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And lore

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There's also lore reasons

burnt laurel May 28, 2018, 2:54 AM

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did i mention the lore?

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 2:55 AM

#

also question. I managed to activate the crystal lift from the wrong side. Do you think it's possible to get through that section between dirtmouth and the peak without super dash?

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 2:55 AM

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I think so

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With quickdash

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zote

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Or grubber

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 2:55 AM

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no quickslash, haven't even been to kingdom edge yet

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 2:55 AM

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Hmm

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Are the crystals there pogoable?

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 2:56 AM

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no but I do have up to quadrupley chained ~3.2x length dashes.

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 2:56 AM

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Hmm

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 2:56 AM

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the only problem is I need to be overcharmed for it

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and I'm bad

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 2:56 AM

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Maybe using dashmaster

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Yeah

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Dunno

rain cedar May 28, 2018, 2:57 AM

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Float imo

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 2:57 AM

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something that's a bit weird to me still is it seems like you can control the direction of the dash but only the second half of it

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 2:57 AM

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Well, there's that

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 2:57 AM

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the first half seems to be whatever direction when you pressed the button

burnt laurel May 28, 2018, 2:57 AM

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well thats just great

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i died in the place where you get the baldur shell

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i'm not a fan of those things

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 2:57 AM

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What do you mean? First half?

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 2:58 AM

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like you can curve your dashes

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but at first it just goes in the direction that you pressed when you pressed the direction button

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 2:58 AM

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I have no idea what you mean, sorry

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Can you show me?

copper nacelle May 28, 2018, 2:59 AM

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^

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 2:59 AM

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like you can do this ----⤴ if you dash right and hold up

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and it gives you free height while not counting as an air dash

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letting you dash a second time with a tiny bit of extra height

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not as much as a full jump but the extra distance makes it worth it

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but it seems like you have to wait for a certain amount of the dash to complete before you can curve it, like you can't do

 ^
 |
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-⅃```

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and have it count as a ground dash

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 3:03 AM

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I'll look into it tomorrow then

burnt laurel May 28, 2018, 3:03 AM

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should i abandon zote for the achievement

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 3:03 AM

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It's midnight here

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Gnight

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 3:03 AM

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is changing your dash midair supposed to be impossible then I guess

solemn rivet May 28, 2018, 3:03 AM

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Yeah it is

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 3:04 AM

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I have a theory

exotic dune May 28, 2018, 3:04 AM

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not unless you haven't saved him before (in another playthrough) imo, you'd be missing out on something

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 3:04 AM

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if I'm, hypothetically turboing the dash button, idk why anyone would do it, but maybe pressing that button while holding a direction lets you change the direction of your dash

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the thing I'm gonna test is how a certain charm in kingdom's edge to avoid spoilers affects that behavior

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📎 amazing-16.mp4

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ok here's a video to show what's going on

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and with that charm (not naming names) I can just sorta fly by turbo pressing c and moving left stick

flat forum May 28, 2018, 3:15 AM

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Hmmmm

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in Blackmoth

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because you dash to attack

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do you still have the nail?

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what happens to nail affecting charms?

copper nacelle May 28, 2018, 3:16 AM

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replaced

flat forum May 28, 2018, 3:16 AM

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What happens to Dashmaster

burnt laurel May 28, 2018, 3:16 AM

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beat hornet 1st try

copper nacelle May 28, 2018, 3:16 AM

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replaced 2

flat forum May 28, 2018, 3:16 AM

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What happens to SHARP SHADOW

copper nacelle May 28, 2018, 3:16 AM

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replaced 3

burnt laurel May 28, 2018, 3:17 AM

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OH MY

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i just found the mothwing cloak

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wont spoil it for anyone but

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i'll enjoy it

flat forum May 28, 2018, 3:17 AM

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What happened to not only the men., but the women and children too?

copper nacelle May 28, 2018, 3:17 AM

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replaced

flat forum May 28, 2018, 3:17 AM

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What happened to my actually good answers I hoped for?

copper nacelle May 28, 2018, 3:18 AM

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spoilers

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re

flat forum May 28, 2018, 3:18 AM

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Should I get it?

copper nacelle May 28, 2018, 3:18 AM

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blackmoth?

flat forum May 28, 2018, 3:18 AM

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yeah

copper nacelle May 28, 2018, 3:18 AM

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yes

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very fun

flat forum May 28, 2018, 3:18 AM

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that's what we've been talking about

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K

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 3:28 AM

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@solemn rivet btw I suspect the problem is the cooldown for when you can start another dash ends before the first dash is over. WHen this cooldown is over, but while you're still in a dash pressing the dash button while holding a direction doesn't start a new dash in that direction but redirects your current one. Ideally this cooldown should be just slightly longer than the dash length itself which would fix both this and immortality through spamming the dash button.

burnt laurel May 28, 2018, 3:52 AM

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is it at all possible to have the large "boss" health bar for the giant moss charger?

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and other large minibosses like that

warped sinew May 28, 2018, 4:28 AM

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hmm i just tried infinite grimm on lifeblood

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but he died

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so i guess it doesnt work?

copper nacelle May 28, 2018, 4:28 AM

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did you install modcommon

warped sinew May 28, 2018, 4:28 AM

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oh no, i just have the normal api

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thx

copper nacelle May 28, 2018, 4:28 AM

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yw

warped sinew May 28, 2018, 4:29 AM

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ok

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honestly at normal speed he is a joke

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you should def do 1.5times

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try it 56!!

copper nacelle May 28, 2018, 4:29 AM

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oh yeah

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hkfast.dll, right?

warped sinew May 28, 2018, 4:31 AM

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oph it litterally says requires mod common in the top left of the screen

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im an idiot

copper nacelle May 28, 2018, 4:31 AM

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lol

warped sinew May 28, 2018, 4:31 AM

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Sanic.dll

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KDT modded it so the slowdowns don't interupt the game speed

copper nacelle May 28, 2018, 4:32 AM

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cool

warped sinew May 28, 2018, 4:32 AM

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in the save folder there will be a json file, you can edit it to the speed you want

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1.5 baby!

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how do i turn hard mode on?

copper nacelle May 28, 2018, 4:34 AM

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same thing as sanic

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in the save folder there's a json

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false -> true

📎 unknown.png

warped sinew May 28, 2018, 4:35 AM

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thanks

copper nacelle May 28, 2018, 4:35 AM

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yw

warped sinew May 28, 2018, 4:37 AM

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what does hard mode do?

copper nacelle May 28, 2018, 4:37 AM

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iirc faster and less staggers

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and gets faster faster

warped sinew May 28, 2018, 4:37 AM

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ahh nice!

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ok

copper nacelle May 28, 2018, 4:39 AM

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wow i died

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holy shit pufferfish is brutal

flat forum May 28, 2018, 4:47 AM

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Indeed

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What was your score?

copper nacelle May 28, 2018, 4:47 AM

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no i mean

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1.5x grimm

flat forum May 28, 2018, 4:47 AM

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Oh

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Not InfiniteGrimm

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 4:48 AM

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1.5x pufferfish is hard, but probably harder when the knight also moves at 1.5x speed

flat forum May 28, 2018, 4:48 AM

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(Also, I think I'm done with mt first mod)

copper nacelle May 28, 2018, 4:48 AM

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nice

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https://www.twitch.tv/5fiftysix6 if you wanna watch me die

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 4:49 AM

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what's harder? dealing with super fast grimm or dealing with the super fast knight?

copper nacelle May 28, 2018, 4:49 AM

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dunno

flat forum May 28, 2018, 4:49 AM

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Hmmm

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As in

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You move faster? "Super fast knight"

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Or a fast THK fight?

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 4:49 AM

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the knight is a nightmare to control at 1.5x speed last I tried

flat forum May 28, 2018, 4:50 AM

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Yeah

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 4:50 AM

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but maybe I'm just not used to it

flat forum May 28, 2018, 4:50 AM

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At 1.2 or 1.3 isn't all that bad tho

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So,I guess you can get used to it?

copper nacelle May 28, 2018, 5:27 AM

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beat it

rain cedar May 28, 2018, 5:28 AM

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Prove it

copper nacelle May 28, 2018, 5:30 AM

#

@warped sinew https://www.twitch.tv/videos/266456535

Twitch

1.5x Speed NKG Kill

5fiftysix6 - Hollow Knight - Twitch

▶ Play video

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 5:30 AM

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alright now do 1.55x

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keep going up until y'all reach the limits of human capability

copper nacelle May 28, 2018, 5:32 AM

#

u

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that was fun af

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 5:34 AM

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but uh I have a problem

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I don't find playing the game as fun as modding it.

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what do?

copper nacelle May 28, 2018, 5:34 AM

#

re

hazy sentinel May 28, 2018, 5:34 AM

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mod the game to be more fun

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daily programming hk challenges

rain cedar May 28, 2018, 5:34 AM

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Mod in co-op

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 5:34 AM

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eventually

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but I'm gonna need to do some research on it so I wouldn't expect a coop mod by me for at least a month

rain cedar May 28, 2018, 5:36 AM

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Instead of fighting the game singletons the easiest way would honestly be to just create a completely new player class

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Saying something that that's easiest

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 5:36 AM

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idk how keyboard inputs are done in unity

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is it something in TC's code or in unity's code?

rain cedar May 28, 2018, 5:36 AM

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HK uses a library called InControl

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 5:37 AM

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Do I hook on it or can I also use that library?

rain cedar May 28, 2018, 5:37 AM

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You can use it for input yeah

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 5:39 AM

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ok will look into some time if I can use an existing library maybe I can build my own game object from an existing game object but which is controlled by inputs from a second player.

rain cedar May 28, 2018, 5:39 AM

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I would look at the HeroActions class

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And the related PlayerAction

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 5:40 AM

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thanks but multiplayer is definitely gonna have to wait a bit. Hell I'm in summer school so I don't have the free time you might expect me to otherwise.

Also no way in hell I can do online multiplayer or anything like that

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I wouldn't even know where to start on networking.

rain cedar May 28, 2018, 5:41 AM

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That's fine it was a joke suggestion anyway

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 5:42 AM

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but it's a serious plan I have... although definitely one that, unlike my other plans, may never happen

warped sinew May 28, 2018, 5:54 AM

#

📎 unknown.png

copper nacelle May 28, 2018, 5:55 AM

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nice

warped sinew May 28, 2018, 5:55 AM

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his attacks start getting fairly fast

compact sedge May 28, 2018, 6:03 AM

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Hey graig, just a heads up but you don't need grimmchild if you want two extra notches for something else

flat forum May 28, 2018, 6:21 AM

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Um

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I tested the mod I made

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and for some reason it isn't working

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I have no idea what the reason could be

deep sleet May 28, 2018, 6:22 AM

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Making games is impossible and we're all going to die

flat forum May 28, 2018, 6:22 AM

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yes