#archived-modding-development | Hollow Knight | Page 99

cyan peak May 23, 2018, 8:49 PM

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start modding earlyish game

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get nothing done in modding

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after the game is completed the systems are learned

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then I can mod in full

copper nacelle May 23, 2018, 8:49 PM

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just skip the nothing done step ez

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I still have to finish rain world

cyan peak May 23, 2018, 8:50 PM

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it's worth it

solemn rivet May 23, 2018, 9:47 PM

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AA: yes, blackmoth is compatible with lifeblood

compact sedge May 23, 2018, 9:48 PM

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Good to know! Does it use the modding api?

copper nacelle May 23, 2018, 10:01 PM

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yes

compact sedge May 23, 2018, 10:03 PM

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sounds neat.

copper nacelle May 23, 2018, 10:04 PM

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play it imo

compact sedge May 23, 2018, 10:04 PM

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I refuse

copper nacelle May 23, 2018, 10:05 PM

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noot

compact sedge May 23, 2018, 10:08 PM

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On second thought it sounds like a neat mod to try out. Question. Can I use it with an existing save and if so does it permanently hurt the save file?

copper nacelle May 23, 2018, 10:08 PM

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yes and yes iirc

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1 damage nail

compact sedge May 23, 2018, 10:08 PM

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the 1 dmg nail persists after quitting it?

copper nacelle May 23, 2018, 10:09 PM

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I think so

wintry ore May 23, 2018, 10:10 PM

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mm I don't think bonfire was supposed to make my nail do less damage when upgrading strength

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It takes 6 hits to kill a wandering husk now

copper nacelle May 23, 2018, 10:15 PM

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@compact sedge nvm i don't think it persists post-lifeblood

compact sedge May 23, 2018, 10:16 PM

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ah so that was fixed

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that's good but I'ma back up my save anyway to be sure

solemn rivet May 23, 2018, 10:21 PM

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well

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it resets if you disable the mod via the pause-menu

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actually

compact sedge May 23, 2018, 10:21 PM

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so if you uninstall the mod without disabling it??

solemn rivet May 23, 2018, 10:21 PM

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maybe it's as 56 said

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because I'm calculating damage differently

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hm...

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I'll have to check

compact sedge May 23, 2018, 10:22 PM

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ok thanks

solemn rivet May 23, 2018, 10:22 PM

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theoretically, it should be fine

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what I'm doing is hijacking the hitinstance and setting the damage manually every time

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also, about Bonfire

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enemies' hp scales with levels/progression

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so if you level strength some and level, say, resilience a ton, you're going to overall need more hits to kill enemies

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that's actually the hardest part to balance

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/327461802311155714/437397111194124288/unknown.png

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here are the actual curves

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X is levels, Y is HP multiplier

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green is base, red is 1 dreamer killed, blue is 2 and orange is 3

hollow pier May 23, 2018, 10:27 PM

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nice curves gradow

solemn rivet May 23, 2018, 10:27 PM

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bretta

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/327461802311155714/437397249052377096/unknown.png

compact sedge May 23, 2018, 10:53 PM

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how do you get the bonfire curves

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reverse engineering?

solemn rivet May 23, 2018, 10:54 PM

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what do you mean?

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where did I come up with the formulas?

compact sedge May 23, 2018, 10:55 PM

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did you make bonfire

solemn rivet May 23, 2018, 10:55 PM

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ye

copper nacelle May 23, 2018, 10:55 PM

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yes

compact sedge May 23, 2018, 10:55 PM

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oh im dumb

copper nacelle May 23, 2018, 10:55 PM

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dungo

solemn rivet May 23, 2018, 11:02 PM

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dungo

copper nacelle May 23, 2018, 11:02 PM

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dungo

fair rampart May 23, 2018, 11:06 PM

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Anybody know of mods that make the game a bit easier? I’m trash, but I REALLY want to finish the game.

exotic venture May 23, 2018, 11:07 PM

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debug mod

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up your nail dmg a little

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suddenly, game is easy

rain cedar May 23, 2018, 11:09 PM

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Rush grimm troupe and get unbreakable heart before CoT

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Suddenly game is easy

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The only flaw is farming 12k in greenpath

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Minor problem

exotic venture May 23, 2018, 11:10 PM

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fragile greed

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don't die

compact sedge May 23, 2018, 11:10 PM

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tfw the best place to farm is CoT but you need 12k geo to get to CoT

exotic venture May 23, 2018, 11:10 PM

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oh no wait

compact sedge May 23, 2018, 11:10 PM

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actually

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I hope it's not really CoT

copper nacelle May 23, 2018, 11:10 PM

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what

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why do you need 12k geo to get to cot

exotic venture May 23, 2018, 11:11 PM

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what

rain cedar May 23, 2018, 11:11 PM

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Colosseum or failed tramway is best farming

exotic venture May 23, 2018, 11:11 PM

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failed tramway imho

copper nacelle May 23, 2018, 11:11 PM

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wtf

📎 unknown.png

compact sedge May 23, 2018, 11:11 PM

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what do you farm in failed tramway

rain cedar May 23, 2018, 11:11 PM

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The enemies

exotic venture May 23, 2018, 11:11 PM

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carver spawners

compact sedge May 23, 2018, 11:11 PM

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how much geo per

exotic venture May 23, 2018, 11:11 PM

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kill every dirt carver and thne the spawner with fr greed

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should be around 50 each?

rain cedar May 23, 2018, 11:12 PM

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It's like 50 just for the spawner I thought

exotic venture May 23, 2018, 11:12 PM

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well i don't really know actual numbers and the wiki is trash

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doesn't note it

compact sedge May 23, 2018, 11:13 PM

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they're kinda annoying to hit iirc

exotic venture May 23, 2018, 11:13 PM

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have to look for yourself

compact sedge May 23, 2018, 11:13 PM

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so I think CoF is better

exotic venture May 23, 2018, 11:13 PM

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but anyway

rain cedar May 23, 2018, 11:13 PM

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Wiki only has important information like sly's dialog

exotic venture May 23, 2018, 11:13 PM

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it is a solid way to farm geo

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and you don't need to enter CoT for it

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but you will be busy with it for a while

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doing this kind of geo farming with, uhh

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fireball and wraiths?

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maybe shriek if you are persistent enough

rain cedar May 23, 2018, 11:14 PM

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Wow shriek

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Telling someone bad at the game to go kill h2

compact sedge May 23, 2018, 11:14 PM

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tfw shriek before CoT

exotic venture May 23, 2018, 11:14 PM

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because the rest is fucking locked away in CoT

compact sedge May 23, 2018, 11:14 PM

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thanks randomizer

exotic venture May 23, 2018, 11:15 PM

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can't get shade soul or dive

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and you can get djump before CoT

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which is uhhhhh not weird at all

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you could probably even get void heart before entering CoT

compact sedge May 23, 2018, 11:16 PM

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could you get true ending without CoT if you disable the requirements

exotic venture May 23, 2018, 11:17 PM

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no

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you need to murder Lurien sadly

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sadgrub

copper nacelle May 23, 2018, 11:17 PM

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disable the requirements large think

exotic venture May 23, 2018, 11:17 PM

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oh then yeah

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don't see why not

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all that prevents you from getting true ending without entering CoT is Lurien

compact sedge May 23, 2018, 11:18 PM

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darn

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what about randomized dream warrior spawn

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like completely random

exotic venture May 23, 2018, 11:19 PM

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please no

compact sedge May 23, 2018, 11:19 PM

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like they could be in dirtmouth

exotic venture May 23, 2018, 11:19 PM

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why would you ever do that

copper nacelle May 23, 2018, 11:19 PM

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why not

exotic venture May 23, 2018, 11:20 PM

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why not make it

copper nacelle May 23, 2018, 11:20 PM

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u

inland valley May 24, 2018, 12:14 AM

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so.. I got the modding api to show up (and i'm guessing it works, and yes it's right version), but the debug mod doesn't seem to activate ingame. can anybody confirm where to put the files?

exotic venture May 24, 2018, 12:15 AM

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have you checked the step-by-step walkthrough in the pins

inland valley May 24, 2018, 12:15 AM

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you mean this only step actually telling anything about the mod? "5) Copy the contents of this zip into the folder (Overwrite files when asked)"

copper nacelle May 24, 2018, 12:17 AM

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just use one of the pinned installers imo

exotic venture May 24, 2018, 12:17 AM

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🤔

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whoops that's compact small

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anyway, read step 4

inland valley May 24, 2018, 12:18 AM

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oh sry. misread pinned. I was thinking of github. the one I was using

copper nacelle May 24, 2018, 12:19 AM

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github wtf

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 12:20 AM

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imo github way to go

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I built every mod I'm using

copper nacelle May 24, 2018, 12:20 AM

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i build none of the mods i'm using

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wait

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no i built 2

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also lightbringer

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 12:21 AM

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hollowwoke

inland valley May 24, 2018, 12:21 AM

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here we go. github didn't even have the dll. :/

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no wonder

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 12:21 AM

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because y'all are monsters

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and don't upload releases to github

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except 56 I think

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also no DLL for the modding api ofc

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because it requires the original game data

solid wagon May 24, 2018, 12:21 AM

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well that was fast

📎 20180523202043_1.jpg

exotic venture May 24, 2018, 12:22 AM

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gg lol

copper nacelle May 24, 2018, 12:22 AM

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i don't upload releases

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i think sean does

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 12:22 AM

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https://github.com/5FiftySix6/HellMod/releases

GitHub

5FiftySix6/HellMod

HellMod - Hell Mod by 56

copper nacelle May 24, 2018, 12:22 AM

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outdated

hollow pier May 24, 2018, 12:22 AM

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github more like gitgud

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 12:23 AM

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idk anyone who downloads releases so maybe I should get my other mod on the drive

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so people will actually find it

solemn rivet May 24, 2018, 12:23 AM

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only mod I had to compile (aside from mine) is rando2

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 12:23 AM

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I didn't have to compile anything but I did anyway

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so I guess that makes me worse

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I even compiled 56's branch of the modding api so I had a version with added hooks

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a 9MB assembly dll

copper nacelle May 24, 2018, 12:25 AM

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w h y

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 12:25 AM

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~~because I'm planning on using hooks in my meme mod~~

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and because I wanted them in my grimmchild upgrades one at one point

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because I thought that would be a good solution (I was wrong)

copper nacelle May 24, 2018, 12:25 AM

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if you don't add a ref to hooks then it won't work w/out other people using an api w/ hooks tho

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i think

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 12:26 AM

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I have a folder on my desktop called Mods and it's just DLLs I've compiled from y'all that I want to link to

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no as long as the namespace exists in any DLL it will work I think

exotic venture May 24, 2018, 12:26 AM

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people look for hollow knight mods on github

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hm

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 12:27 AM

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honestly I couldn't find gradow's github until like 3 days ago

solemn rivet May 24, 2018, 12:27 AM

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zote

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 12:27 AM

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sorry

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google didn't help because google never indexed your page

solemn rivet May 24, 2018, 12:27 AM

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cause I have no idea what I'm doing m8

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 12:27 AM

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for a while my page was the only result for "github" modcommon hollow knight

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too

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which is kinda funny

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and it's just because I say in my readme.md : this mod requires modcommon

solemn rivet May 24, 2018, 12:27 AM

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kek

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 12:28 AM

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and the actual modcommon page wasn't on google at all

exotic venture May 24, 2018, 12:28 AM

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well, case in point

copper nacelle May 24, 2018, 12:28 AM

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tbf a lot of people come into #archived-modding-development with copies of the repo off of github

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like

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 12:28 AM

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Google really likes me, they love indexing my stuff

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I'm really happy about it

exotic venture May 24, 2018, 12:28 AM

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if ya wanna look for hk mods, github is not the place to start

copper nacelle May 24, 2018, 12:28 AM

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at least 5 people have come in w/ copies of debug mod's repo

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pretty sure

exotic venture May 24, 2018, 12:29 AM

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is that even updated

copper nacelle May 24, 2018, 12:29 AM

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and i think debug mod has releases too

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 12:29 AM

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y'all need to advertise the drive better

copper nacelle May 24, 2018, 12:29 AM

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dunno

exotic venture May 24, 2018, 12:29 AM

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nah

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 12:29 AM

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It's advertised well enough

exotic venture May 24, 2018, 12:29 AM

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we need to advertise the discord better

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zote

solemn rivet May 24, 2018, 12:29 AM

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^

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 12:29 AM

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I literally only joined this discord for mods

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 12:29 AM

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Simo's job

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 12:29 AM

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and then I ended up not playing anyone's mod for about a week

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 12:29 AM

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Not my problem

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 12:29 AM

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and then I ended up getting to caught in making them to play them much

exotic venture May 24, 2018, 12:30 AM

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and you went ahead and had discussions with the other lads which is cool

copper nacelle May 24, 2018, 12:30 AM

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i came to the discord for blackmoth

hollow pier May 24, 2018, 12:30 AM

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i came to the discord for whitebutterfly

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 12:30 AM

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I came to the discord for memes

hollow pier May 24, 2018, 12:31 AM

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but you are a meme

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 12:31 AM

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Thanks

exotic venture May 24, 2018, 12:31 AM

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i came to the discord to get rid of my older abusive community

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 12:31 AM

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You too

exotic venture May 24, 2018, 12:31 AM

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zote

hollow pier May 24, 2018, 12:31 AM

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thanks

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 12:31 AM

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I came to the discord for lightbringer. found out it wasn't open source and decided not to install it :P

hollow pier May 24, 2018, 12:31 AM

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who comes for lightbringer anymore lol its all about shitmodst

copper nacelle May 24, 2018, 12:31 AM

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also source is available if you search from:753

exotic venture May 24, 2018, 12:31 AM

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shitmodst is best modst

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 12:32 AM

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wait lightbringer has source but just posted in chat messages in discord?

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wtf

exotic venture May 24, 2018, 12:32 AM

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version 2 when

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it's 300IQ

copper nacelle May 24, 2018, 12:32 AM

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kinda

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it's in a gdrive link

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zipped

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 12:32 AM

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Well it's a direct modification of the game without monomod

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 12:32 AM

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ohh god

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 12:32 AM

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So you can't really host it on github

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 12:32 AM

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yikes

hollow pier May 24, 2018, 12:33 AM

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api when

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 12:33 AM

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I couldn't imagine modding anything without all the amazing tools y'all have made

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I'm literally using like code from basically everyone here

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 12:33 AM

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Dnspy is the most useful tool tbh

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 12:33 AM

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tbh modcommon's fsm dumper is far and away the best resource I've had

copper nacelle May 24, 2018, 12:33 AM

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what about the other fsm dumper

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 12:34 AM

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It sucks

copper nacelle May 24, 2018, 12:34 AM

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what

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 12:34 AM

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that one's ok but requires a third party program for humans to read and that program has a lot of issues

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I like having a text file

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in human readable format

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 12:34 AM

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Implying all of this isn't 3rd party

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 12:34 AM

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lol

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u mean ur not paid by team cherry

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well shit I quit modding

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 12:36 AM

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If I was on their payroll the switch release would've been out last year

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Just that good

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 12:36 AM

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If I was on their payroll the switch release would be out but it'd be shitmodst 4

copper nacelle May 24, 2018, 12:37 AM

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where'd shitmodst 3 go

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 12:37 AM

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The dream

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 12:37 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 12:37 AM

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The 4 stands for "4 skipping 3"

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 12:38 AM

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1 and 2 are mildly shitty but still grounded in non-shittyness but 4 is so shitty that entering rooms while facing the wrong direction teleports you randomly.

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1/3rd of the time into a floor

copper nacelle May 24, 2018, 12:39 AM

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1/3 as a floor imo

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 12:40 AM

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How do you enter a room while facing the wrong direction?

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 12:40 AM

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like doors

hollow pier May 24, 2018, 12:40 AM

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the wrong direction is entering the room

copper nacelle May 24, 2018, 12:40 AM

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but you can't walk backwards

hollow pier May 24, 2018, 12:41 AM

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thats where youre wrong

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 12:41 AM

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hey 56 can I make a request for your mantis mod?

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You should make the floor change colors over time

exotic venture May 24, 2018, 12:41 AM

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fucking rainbow floors

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 12:41 AM

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have it go through a rainbow

exotic venture May 24, 2018, 12:41 AM

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called it

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what's wrong with how it currently is imo

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 12:42 AM

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it's not rainbow

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right now it's pure black which isn't rainbow

copper nacelle May 24, 2018, 12:43 AM

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i could make a version which does that i guess

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not in final tho

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doesn't seem hard

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 12:43 AM

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hey 56 update your mod on github I'll send a pullrequest that adds it as an option in global settings

exotic venture May 24, 2018, 12:43 AM

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fork of mantis gods

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mantis gays

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 12:43 AM

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you don't even have to do any work

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not even joking I'll do it

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it'll be off by default ofc

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and global settings so you have to edit a json to change it

exotic venture May 24, 2018, 12:44 AM

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do call it like that

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 12:44 AM

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Make it randomly scramble sprites

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 12:44 AM

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make a fork of my fork and add it

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 12:44 AM

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Deal

copper nacelle May 24, 2018, 12:46 AM

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pr when

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i think you'd just add a component with an update

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and change colors there

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and it already has color code

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should be super easy

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 12:47 AM

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probably in like a day because I have homework

copper nacelle May 24, 2018, 12:47 AM

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not procrastinating smh

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 12:47 AM

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same tho

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have to read half a book for tomorrow

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gonna continue doing that

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 12:49 AM

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I have a class that wants me to read books

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The secret is to just not do it

copper nacelle May 24, 2018, 12:49 AM

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my class has been doing romeo and juliet

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i went through 99% of the unit not reading any of the book except act 1 because i thought she'd check that

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and then i read all of the book the day before the test last week

hollow pier May 24, 2018, 12:49 AM

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act 1 more like literally pointless

copper nacelle May 24, 2018, 12:50 AM

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not wrong tbh

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 12:50 AM

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Can we get a #archived-modding-development-offtopic?

hollow pier May 24, 2018, 12:50 AM

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you mean modding

exotic venture May 24, 2018, 12:50 AM

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modding is modding-offtopic

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 12:51 AM

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#any-percent-nmg is off topic but we still got #sr-offtopic

copper nacelle May 24, 2018, 12:51 AM

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yes

exotic venture May 24, 2018, 12:51 AM

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gee sean, how come does simo let you have TWO off topic channels?

copper nacelle May 24, 2018, 12:51 AM

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how come does

hollow pier May 24, 2018, 12:52 AM

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how come does grammar

exotic venture May 24, 2018, 12:52 AM

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how come does one even has grammer

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it's 3am and you can see it's starting to wear on me

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 12:53 AM

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It's 6pm and you can see I'm not tired yet

solemn rivet May 24, 2018, 12:54 AM

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please don't

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otherwise this channel = ded

copper nacelle May 24, 2018, 12:55 AM

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no it'd just be

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#how-do-i-install-mods

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with occasional actual discussion

hollow pier May 24, 2018, 12:55 AM

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just rename the channel to #check-pins

solemn rivet May 24, 2018, 12:56 AM

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^

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 12:56 AM

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#📌

solemn rivet May 24, 2018, 12:57 AM

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oh, Vmi is here

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did you manage to finish that rando2 seed?

lucid pond May 24, 2018, 12:57 AM

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@RandomBluebird you need the Modcommon mod when you play randomizer mod 2.0.

hollow pier May 24, 2018, 12:57 AM

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nice ping

solemn rivet May 24, 2018, 12:57 AM

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nice.png

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 12:57 AM

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If you don't have it it literally says to install it on the main menu

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I have a feeling that was their issue but I'm also hoping for some degree of intelligence

copper nacelle May 24, 2018, 12:58 AM

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idk what you're talking about

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isn't that what the channel's called already

solemn rivet May 24, 2018, 1:00 AM

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#pro-photoshop-skillz

lucid pond May 24, 2018, 1:00 AM

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What's that rando2 seed you say?

solemn rivet May 24, 2018, 1:00 AM

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eh

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the one without isma's

exotic venture May 24, 2018, 1:01 AM

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actually i only had to edit the how-to-install-mods pin once'

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and that was to change the current version zote

copper nacelle May 24, 2018, 1:01 AM

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change it to just say

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use the installer

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hollowdab

lucid pond May 24, 2018, 1:02 AM

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I finished it 2 days ago without isma's

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And after updating, you can get isma's in sly's shop after giving the key to sly

solemn rivet May 24, 2018, 1:03 AM

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nice

exotic venture May 24, 2018, 1:06 AM

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ayy must mean it had taken the place of heavy blow or something

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 1:06 AM

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That's not how randomizer works now smh

exotic venture May 24, 2018, 1:06 AM

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i should play the new iteration of randomizer sometime soon

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since i wasted many hours on the old one

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 1:07 AM

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Shops have a random item count

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At least 1

exotic venture May 24, 2018, 1:07 AM

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sounds good

copper nacelle May 24, 2018, 1:07 AM

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does lemm still sell stuff

exotic venture May 24, 2018, 1:07 AM

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lemm sells stuff?

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wat

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no way

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 1:08 AM

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No that was broke because team cherry made shit shops

copper nacelle May 24, 2018, 1:08 AM

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oof

hollow pier May 24, 2018, 1:08 AM

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is rando gooder now

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 1:08 AM

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Maybe some day I'll get around to remaking the shop fsm as a component

exotic venture May 24, 2018, 1:08 AM

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looks a lot gooder

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and sounds even gooder than that

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 1:08 AM

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Then I can put stuff in lemm shop

exotic venture May 24, 2018, 1:08 AM

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lemm sells 10 egg

copper nacelle May 24, 2018, 1:09 AM

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lemm sells 10 wayward compass

exotic venture May 24, 2018, 1:09 AM

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that's value right there

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 1:09 AM

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Basically how the shops work now is every item has flags for what it is

hollow pier May 24, 2018, 1:09 AM

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make lemm sell relics for their exact price

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 1:09 AM

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But those are checked after taking/giving geo

exotic venture May 24, 2018, 1:09 AM

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wait, maybe i should make a mod that makes everything multiplied by 10

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 1:09 AM

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Which defeats the purpose completely

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So everything in the lemm shop acts as a relic even if it has the charm flag

exotic venture May 24, 2018, 1:10 AM

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see how things break down

hollow pier May 24, 2018, 1:10 AM

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health x10 🤔

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soul x10

solemn rivet May 24, 2018, 1:10 AM

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damage x10

copper nacelle May 24, 2018, 1:10 AM

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enemy health x10

hollow pier May 24, 2018, 1:10 AM

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so everything would neutralise

solemn rivet May 24, 2018, 1:10 AM

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yup

hollow pier May 24, 2018, 1:10 AM

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nail dmg x 10

young walrus May 24, 2018, 1:10 AM

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Sell charms to Lemm imo

exotic venture May 24, 2018, 1:10 AM

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geo x10

copper nacelle May 24, 2018, 1:10 AM

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wow wayward compass

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i can give you

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1 geo

exotic venture May 24, 2018, 1:11 AM

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jump height x10

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speed x10

hollow pier May 24, 2018, 1:11 AM

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wow heavy blow

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i can take

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all your geo

solemn rivet May 24, 2018, 1:11 AM

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but wouldn't you rather do 5k damage instead of 5 damage?

hollow pier May 24, 2018, 1:11 AM

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🤔

solemn rivet May 24, 2018, 1:11 AM

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even if the enemy also has 1000x as much hp

exotic venture May 24, 2018, 1:11 AM

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that sounds like final fantasy levels

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ngl

solemn rivet May 24, 2018, 1:11 AM

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HK limit break when

exotic venture May 24, 2018, 1:11 AM

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radiance has 1,8 million health

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you deal 21000 dmg with pure nail

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basically, balance

solemn rivet May 24, 2018, 1:12 AM

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Radiance is basically Kefka from FFVI

exotic venture May 24, 2018, 1:12 AM

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pffffffff

solemn rivet May 24, 2018, 1:12 AM

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cuz she weak af

hollow pier May 24, 2018, 1:13 AM

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Frenz Kefka hollowomg

solemn rivet May 24, 2018, 1:13 AM

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even tho final boss

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nice Ptkyr

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oh god, now I need a mod that replaces Radiance with Kefka

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and name the mod "Franz Kefka"

hollow pier May 24, 2018, 1:14 AM

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Kefkaasque

solemn rivet May 24, 2018, 1:17 AM

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also, hype for Bloodstained - Curse of the Moon

copper nacelle May 24, 2018, 1:47 AM

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if i were to compile w/ the public beta assembly as a ref

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and use its consts

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would it still work on older versions because consts are consts

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 1:50 AM

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I think that depends a lot on the compiler

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You could be safe and just set the consts manually

copper nacelle May 24, 2018, 1:52 AM

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:effort:

copper nacelle May 24, 2018, 4:25 AM

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does gameobject.findobjectoftype find children

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 4:26 AM

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modcommon has a FindGameObjectInChildren function

copper nacelle May 24, 2018, 4:26 AM

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that's an extension

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iirc

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 4:27 AM

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        public static GameObject FindGameObjectInChildren( this GameObject gameObject, string name )
        {
            if( gameObject == null )
                return null;

            foreach( var t in gameObject.GetComponentsInChildren<Transform>( true ) )
            {
                if( t.name == name )
                    return t.gameObject;
            }
            return null;
        }

copper nacelle May 24, 2018, 4:28 AM

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that's an extension

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 4:28 AM

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yes

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but that's what it actually does

copper nacelle May 24, 2018, 4:28 AM

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ik

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i already use it

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i wanted to check if a gameobject was in the scene but it's not in any of the scene dumps

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so idk if it's a child of anything

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but it's in the fsm dumper

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 4:29 AM

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idk what dumping thing you use but mine prints all the children too

copper nacelle May 24, 2018, 4:29 AM

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and I've had a few objects that were in the fsm dumper and not in the scene dumps

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like

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the Challenge Prompt for mantis lords

leaden hedge May 24, 2018, 4:30 AM

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fsms that make fsms

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thats why its not there

copper nacelle May 24, 2018, 4:30 AM

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oh

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re

leaden hedge May 24, 2018, 4:30 AM

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prompts are an fsm that spawns an fsm that spawns an fsm that controls and spawns the actual promt

copper nacelle May 24, 2018, 4:31 AM

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wtf

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 4:31 AM

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just dump it after it spawns it

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or spawn it manually

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and then dump it

copper nacelle May 24, 2018, 4:31 AM

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ik

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 4:43 AM

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Just make your own prompt marker tbh

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It's not hard

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When hero is in range fade in

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Otherwise fade out

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If up or down is pressed when in range send some event

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Done

warped sinew May 24, 2018, 6:08 AM

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Hey guys, is it possible to mod the game speed? I think 1.1x would make the game better

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 6:09 AM

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Time scale is probably the easiest thing to mod

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It would be like a two line mod

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 6:09 AM

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does time scale apply universally to all FSMs both wait times and animation speeds

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 6:09 AM

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It should

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 6:10 AM

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also there are a few problems

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 6:10 AM

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You have to explicitly declare unscaled time to not be using time scale

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 6:10 AM

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like you can't get the default length of any wait state

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so I did the hacky thing and hardcoded them in

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so I could change them by a multiple

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but if you do Wait.Value it just returns 0

warped sinew May 24, 2018, 6:11 AM

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I think a Hollow Knight Hyper Edition would be really cool

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 6:11 AM

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I can just make a 1.1x speed mod real quick

warped sinew May 24, 2018, 6:11 AM

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It we could add a combo system/counter too that would be amazing

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 6:11 AM

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pls prove me wrong seanpr I wanna see it happen

warped sinew May 24, 2018, 6:12 AM

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1.1 speed would seriously make the game flow better I feel.

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Maybe even 1.2, have to play around with it, but slightly faster = win

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 6:14 AM

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using Modding;
using UnityEngine;

namespace HKFast
{
    public class Speedy : Mod
    {
        public override void Initialize()
        {
            ModHooks.Instance.HeroUpdateHook += GoFast;
        }

        private void GoFast()
        {
            if (Time.timeScale == 1f) Time.timeScale = 1.1f;
        }
    }
}```

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Complex mod

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 6:14 AM

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wait there's just a timescale variable

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 6:14 AM

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Yes

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That's why I said it was easy

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 6:15 AM

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I quit modding

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why is the stuff I think is hard so easy

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and the stuff I think easy so hard

warped sinew May 24, 2018, 6:15 AM

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Haha nice @rain cedar

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 6:15 AM

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📎 HKFast.dll

warped sinew May 24, 2018, 6:16 AM

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I'll try it when I get home from work!! In 2 hours...

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 6:16 AM

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Cool

warped sinew May 24, 2018, 6:16 AM

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Does it matter what version?

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 6:16 AM

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It shouldn't matter as long as there's a modding api for the version

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So any unreleased version you have isn't gonna work

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 6:17 AM

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I hope it makes the audio faster too

warped sinew May 24, 2018, 6:17 AM

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Yeah I'll downpatch to lifeblood...

rotund ether May 24, 2018, 6:17 AM

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Stream it

warped sinew May 24, 2018, 6:18 AM

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The release not beta one

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 6:18 AM

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can you compile a 2x one real quick

warped sinew May 24, 2018, 6:18 AM

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Heeey willlz

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 6:18 AM

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I don't wanna start my vm for it

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 6:18 AM

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I'll just make it grab the speed from global settings so you can put it to whatever

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Default 1.1

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 6:20 AM

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lol ur gonna have the global settings one done before visual studio launches at this rate

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 6:24 AM

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Oh wait I didn't realize you need to call to save global settings explicitly

warped sinew May 24, 2018, 6:24 AM

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Is it easy to edit that .DLL to 1.2, 1.3 etc? So I can mess around with speeds? Like open it in visual studio and edit the code and save?

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 6:24 AM

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2x 2 hard

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rain cedar May 24, 2018, 6:24 AM

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That's what I'm doing right now Graig

warped sinew May 24, 2018, 6:25 AM

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OK got it niice

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Lightbringer had that time change charm now that I think about it.

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 6:27 AM

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too bad modapi mods don't load before the menu or you could also speed up the "don't turn off the game while saving" thing too

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 6:28 AM

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Well that's just the chosen entry point

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Easy to change, it's completely arbitrary

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For some reason the settings aren't actually saving

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Oh, I think I actually know the issue

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And it's something that's not necessarily a bug with the API but also kinda unintuitive

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Think I need to explicitly set values instead of just calling get with a default

rotund ether May 24, 2018, 6:31 AM

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What's that Grimm pic from?

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 6:31 AM

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Infinite grimm mod

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Fight lasts until you die and gets progressively faster

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 6:31 AM

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I got all of one hit in

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before dying

rotund ether May 24, 2018, 6:31 AM

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noice

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 6:32 AM

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Ok yeah putting this in init makes the value save properly

GlobalSettings.speed = GlobalSettings.speed;```

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Gonna have to comment that one or future me will delete it

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📎 HKFast.dll

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After first run this creates a file Speedy.GlobalSettings.json in the save folder

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Just change the number near the bottom of it to whatever

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@warped sinew

leaden hedge May 24, 2018, 6:43 AM

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not that it really matters but doesn't that only make the game go twice as fast if its going at fullspeed

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i.e. the game will run at normal speed whenever you get hit

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 6:44 AM

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Making the hitstop last for less time is not something I'm gonna do

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It wouldn't be as simple as a scale change

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 6:48 AM

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if (Time.Timescale != currentScale) {
    Time.Timescale *= speed;
    currentScale = Time.Timescale;
}```

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maybe?

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so every time the timescale is changed it will multiply that timescale, whatever it is, by the speed multiplier

leaden hedge May 24, 2018, 6:49 AM

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where are you running it

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 6:50 AM

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rn it's running on HeroUpdateHook

leaden hedge May 24, 2018, 6:50 AM

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imagine this case

timescale coroutine runs sets speed to 0.4
some update
some update 2
hero update
some update 3
some update 4

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only 3 and 4 would work

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1 and 2 would be at 0.4 speed

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and the order of updates are "random"

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 6:51 AM

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Pretty sure hitstop is just 0 time scale

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So a working version of this wouldn't even do anything

leaden hedge May 24, 2018, 6:52 AM

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its a coroutine that lerps between 0 and 1

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iirc

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its just GameManager.SetTimeScale which needs to change

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private void SetTimeScale(float newTimeScale)
{
    Time.timeScale = ((newTimeScale <= 0.01f) ? 0f : newTimeScale * speedMult);
}

private IEnumerator SetTimeScale(float newTimeScale, float duration)
{
    duration /= speedMult;
    float lastTimeScale = Time.timeScale;
    for (float timer = 0f; timer < duration; timer += Time.unscaledDeltaTime)
    {
        float val = Mathf.Clamp01(timer / duration);
        this.SetTimeScale(Mathf.Lerp(lastTimeScale, newTimeScale, val));
        yield return null;
    }
    this.SetTimeScale(newTimeScale);
    yield break;
}

would probably do it

warped sinew May 24, 2018, 7:06 AM

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@rain cedar hey thanks a lot for this! Absolutely awesome!

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 7:06 AM

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Hey no problem

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KDT might come out with a better one though since it seems like he's taken an interest in it

leaden hedge May 24, 2018, 7:07 AM

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if you're gonna do something at least do it as correct as you can hollowface

warped sinew May 24, 2018, 7:08 AM

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HK Hyper Edition is worth it hollowknice

leaden hedge May 24, 2018, 7:12 AM

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oh I just realised that'd double dip

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you dont need to update the enumarator

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 7:13 AM

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can you make certain gameobjects ignore the time scale?

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or use their own timescale different to the main one?

leaden hedge May 24, 2018, 7:14 AM

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probably not

leaden hedge May 24, 2018, 8:19 AM

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hmm

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doesn't seem to make a settings file

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but it works

warped sinew May 24, 2018, 8:50 AM

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whos modding API do i use now days?

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1.3.1.5

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 8:51 AM

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yeah seanpr's build for 1.3.1.5 I guess

warped sinew May 24, 2018, 8:51 AM

#

k

leaden hedge May 24, 2018, 8:51 AM

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this should speed up everything

📎 sanic.zip

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 8:51 AM

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hopefully it works on 1.4

leaden hedge May 24, 2018, 8:52 AM

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including hitpauses and lerped timescales

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although writing to the globalsettings doesn't seem to work, it reads from it fine though

warped sinew May 24, 2018, 8:52 AM

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ok ill try yours out

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can i tweak the speeds anywhere?

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 8:52 AM

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that's a large modhooks file

leaden hedge May 24, 2018, 8:53 AM

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after running it it'll make a json in the save folder called sanic.globalsettings.json

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{
    "StringValues": {
        "keys": [],
        "values": []
    },
    "IntValues": {
        "keys": [],
        "values": []
    },
    "BoolValues": {
        "keys": [],
        "values": []
    },
    "FloatValues": {
        "keys": [
            "SpeedMultiplier"
        ],
        "values": [
            5.0
        ]
    }
}

warped sinew May 24, 2018, 8:53 AM

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oh

leaden hedge May 24, 2018, 8:53 AM

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make it look like that for 5x speed

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etc etc

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 8:53 AM

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would highly recommend not doing 5x speed

warped sinew May 24, 2018, 8:53 AM

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lol 5 times

leaden hedge May 24, 2018, 8:53 AM

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easy to check its working when its real fast

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1.2x isn't that noticeable

warped sinew May 24, 2018, 8:53 AM

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yup

leaden hedge May 24, 2018, 8:53 AM

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maybe its placebo

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 8:53 AM

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I did 2x and it was already pretty insane

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 8:54 AM

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Of course 1.2 isn't gonna look fast after 5

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 8:54 AM

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you know if it's working if sounds like crystal dash and ambiant stuff and enemy attacks get out of sync

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unless you fixed that too somehow

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and if so then you're an absolute god kdt.

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I mean you already are but like more of one.

leaden hedge May 24, 2018, 8:56 AM

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i didn't test it much but everything seems in sync

warped sinew May 24, 2018, 8:56 AM

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lol it works hehe

#

ok im going to stream some

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ill tweak it a bit, maybt 1.5 times

leaden hedge May 24, 2018, 8:56 AM

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i was trying to get + and - to adjust the speed by 0.05

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but api wouldn't write to settings for whatever reason

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 8:57 AM

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IDK how to explain this but the sounds don't play at the timescale speed so if you start a crystal dash at 2x it only plays half the sound clip. or at 0.5x the sound stops while the dash is still charging. or they didn't on seanpr's version.

#

One way the game is actually really well coded is that almost all sounds automatically stop when they are supposed to, so this doesn't lead to overlap but it can lead to stuff being cut short.

leaden hedge May 24, 2018, 9:00 AM

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what do you want the sounds to slow down too 🤔

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dunno if I can do that

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the only issue as far as I can tell is transitions are still fixed length

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so you go to running animation after using a door

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which I can fix by replacing GameManager.BeginSceneTransitionRoutine

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 9:02 AM

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I believe expected behavior which doesn't really matter since the way it's programmed makes it very hard to notice but that sound files are sped up to the timescale modifier speed and pitch shifted accordingly (so they don't sound high pitch). Seems like a lot of work for not a lot of gain but if I was to do it I'd look into getting hooks into the FSM play audio functions.

leaden hedge May 24, 2018, 9:02 AM

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audio is likely controlled entirely by unities anim system

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which is completely closed off from code besides play anim

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 9:03 AM

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well playmaker has audio play functions and those aren't closed off and those are how most of the sound effects are done

leaden hedge May 24, 2018, 9:03 AM

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its better than mekanism but eh its still got a while to go

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its unlikely playmaker is actually controlling the sound though

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most likely just telling unity to play a sound

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 9:04 AM

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Would have to open up dnspy but I believe the playmaker play audio stuff does have variables for both pitch and speed.

#

ofc it's presumably using these to do what you said, just send stuff to unity, but it is an abstraction layer that you can access with hooks I think

leaden hedge May 24, 2018, 9:06 AM

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looking at it playmaker uses unities audiosource class

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which has a pitch value but no speed

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looking at it, technically possible

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but 100% not worth it

exotic venture May 24, 2018, 9:11 AM

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wait isn't this the same thing debug mod has

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with upping timescale

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 9:11 AM

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No, not really

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It's that but actually good

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Debug mod time scale gets reset every time basically anything happens in game

exotic venture May 24, 2018, 9:12 AM

#

f

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could this be added to the debug mod as a replacement for timescale?

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 9:13 AM

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I would rather avoid dependency on monomod hooks if possible

leaden hedge May 24, 2018, 9:15 AM

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you could add the hooks into the normal api but thats probably not worth it

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considering this is the only use

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 9:15 AM

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Lazy

exotic venture May 24, 2018, 9:15 AM

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argh, darn

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 9:15 AM

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If this is a feature you actually want I could improve it

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I just thought you were saying it should be better for the sake of being better

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List<SpriteRenderer> spriteRenderers = Object.FindObjectsOfType<SpriteRenderer>().ToList();
List<Sprite> sprites = spriteRenderers.Select(item => item.sprite).ToList();

Random rand = new Random();

while (spriteRenderers.Count > 0)
{
    int rendNum = rand.Next(spriteRenderers.Count);
    int spriteNum = rand.Next(sprites.Count);

    spriteRenderers[rendNum].sprite = sprites[spriteNum];

    spriteRenderers.RemoveAt(rendNum);
    sprites.RemoveAt(spriteNum);
}```

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It's unplayable

#

I love it

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 9:20 AM

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imo hooks to the normal api would be very useful not just for that

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or at least I think it would be useful

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 9:21 AM

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He meant this specific time scale hook would be useless other than this

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 9:21 AM

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true me dumb

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 9:26 AM

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Shitmodst 4 coming along nicely

📎 unknown.png

#

Also interesting is no enemies or other NPCs are getting changed

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So they don't use SpriteRenderer

leaden hedge May 24, 2018, 9:28 AM

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enemies use tk2dspriterenderer

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 9:28 AM

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I just kinda assumed that would use the real one internally

leaden hedge May 24, 2018, 9:28 AM

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but I thought that extended spriterenderer so

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it might jsut be a meshrenderer though

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with a sprite shader

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[RequireComponent(typeof(MeshRenderer))]

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oh hey i was correct

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 9:31 AM

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Maybe I should just find all of type Renderer and go from there

compact sedge May 24, 2018, 9:31 AM

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this is beautiful

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 9:33 AM

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Oh god the fury effect

#

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copper nacelle May 24, 2018, 9:33 AM

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lmao

floral furnace May 24, 2018, 9:34 AM

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hitboxes are still the same right

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 9:34 AM

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Yes

copper nacelle May 24, 2018, 9:34 AM

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all you need now is cornifer

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floral furnace May 24, 2018, 9:34 AM

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lmao

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 9:34 AM

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Well once I get all Renderers swapped instead of just sprite ones that will be a possibility

floral furnace May 24, 2018, 9:35 AM

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~~every sprite as cornifer mod~~

exotic venture May 24, 2018, 9:35 AM

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Just Cornifer.

copper nacelle May 24, 2018, 9:36 AM

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does getting the sprites rn just get the sprites from that scene?

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 9:36 AM

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Unless I load all from resources yeah

copper nacelle May 24, 2018, 9:36 AM

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imo load them all

leaden hedge May 24, 2018, 9:36 AM

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you can iterate over each tk2dBaseSprite

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 9:43 AM

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This is worse but at least the sky is interesting

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copper nacelle May 24, 2018, 9:44 AM

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the sky is stags

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lol

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 9:44 AM

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I'm swapping around the materials on the renderers for this

leaden hedge May 24, 2018, 9:44 AM

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write a camera shader that deepfries the screen imo

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 9:45 AM

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No thanks

leaden hedge May 24, 2018, 9:45 AM

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write a camera shader that makes the screen rotate constantly

copper nacelle May 24, 2018, 9:47 AM

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that's like Screen.orientation = ScreenOrientation.Portrait and stuff, right?

leaden hedge May 24, 2018, 9:47 AM

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no

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that'd just flip it really fast

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wouldn't rotate it slowly

copper nacelle May 24, 2018, 9:48 AM

#

o

leaden hedge May 24, 2018, 9:49 AM

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you'd need to take the cameras input and use a matrix to rotate it and render it back

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tbh theres probably a shader already made for it

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 9:51 AM

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I love linq

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It just makes everything easy

#

Alright there we go

📎 unknown.png

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My kinda game

leaden hedge May 24, 2018, 10:03 AM

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looks like shit

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 10:04 AM

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Thanks

exotic venture May 24, 2018, 10:04 AM

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looks like a perfect shitmodst sequel

floral furnace May 24, 2018, 10:06 AM

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all its missing is a "Play Lightbringer" text

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 10:08 AM

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Just look harder

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I'm sure it's there somewhere

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📎 yes.dll

copper nacelle May 24, 2018, 10:13 AM

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best dll name

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 10:13 AM

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I can't beat the aspid arena

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This is the hardest mod

lucid pond May 24, 2018, 11:20 AM

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@rain cedar

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I can't go back to crossroad

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I'm going to get some geos to open the translation

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the seed 20180524

void tree May 24, 2018, 11:25 AM

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you can save and quit to get out of there, no?

lucid pond May 24, 2018, 11:26 AM

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No

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I have to get some geos or debug some geos.then go back

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The game crashs

📎 unknown.png

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I play it again，it becomes quake

📎 unknown.png

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milliS

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I try again and get quake again.

late sphinx May 24, 2018, 2:45 PM

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mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

rain cedar May 24, 2018, 7:43 PM

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@lucid pond I'm not really sure how you would get stuck there

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It looks like you're right outside white palace

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To get there you need wings and claw

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And to get hard saved there you need to beat white palace which means basically every movement ability

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Also for the second one it just dimmed like that then froze there?

lucid pond May 25, 2018, 12:28 AM

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I play the sedd 201805240 to get vengeful spirit three times. At first time, I get the right half of kingsoul and I'm transformed outside white palace.At second and third time, I get desolate dive. @rain cedar

rain cedar May 25, 2018, 12:29 AM

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Oh

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That makes no sense

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I think I have an idea of what could have happened actually

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Before playing the randomizer seed did you do white palace?

lucid pond May 25, 2018, 12:34 AM

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I finished true ending before play the new seed，because I stopped the old seed to practice with Inoki. I forgot whether I quit the game after I finished the old seed.

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I'm lucky to meet the problems mylajoy hollowomg

rain cedar May 25, 2018, 12:36 AM

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I know how to fix this

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I'm glad someone is testing thoroughly

lucid pond May 25, 2018, 12:40 AM

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I'm glad ,too. You make the game more interesting by creating the mods. Thank you very much！

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mylajoy

rain cedar May 25, 2018, 1:01 AM

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Ok I put up a new version that should fix it

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That was a pretty rare edge case to get that bug

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You must have started the game, then did white palace pretty much immediately, then done a randomizer without relaunching

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:07 AM

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version 1.0 ladies and gentlemen

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because killing you once isn't bad enough they have to kill you a second time as well

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wtf

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@copper nacelle

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rain cedar May 25, 2018, 1:09 AM

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Do it

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No balls

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:09 AM

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uhhhhhhhhhhhhh

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:09 AM

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lol they died in the acid

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:09 AM

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what did you do

rain cedar May 25, 2018, 1:09 AM

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ez

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:10 AM

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literally fought them. died to the first one, they followed me to my bench and killed me again

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:10 AM

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wtf

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:10 AM

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then I dreamnailed to try to return

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and then that happened

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:10 AM

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which version 1

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where'd you get it

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:10 AM

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compiled it

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from your github

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:10 AM

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ree

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:10 AM

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now I can fight them next to that bench

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and every time I do I can sit down and get heals

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its awesome

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also they die to the acid

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after doing like 4 or 5 of those down slash attacks

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:11 AM

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w t f

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i was using dgate to test too

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i blame beta

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:12 AM

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hahahaha I killed them just by sitting on the bench

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for heals

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also I don't think this is your mod but I dashed into the wall to try to leave

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and this happened

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:13 AM

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aaaaaaaaaaaaa

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:13 AM

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oh no it is

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it's the floor you made

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:13 AM

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wtf did you do

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:13 AM

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bahahahahaha

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:13 AM

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did scene names change or something

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or is it just being bad

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re

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:13 AM

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I entered the room to fight them (all the mantises were hostile which was weird)

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and the room was black

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and then I fought and died to the first one

hazy sentinel May 25, 2018, 1:13 AM

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56 polishes mods

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:13 AM

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and then I died

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and then the first one spawned next to my bench

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killed me again

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and then the rest is history

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:14 AM

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does it happen again if you try it again

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:14 AM

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I can keep fighting them

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wait hold on let me go back

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:14 AM

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i mean like

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:14 AM

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btw are the mantises supposed to be hostile

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:15 AM

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if you quit the game

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and do it again

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does that happen

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also what

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:15 AM

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the mantises in the village

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:15 AM

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yes

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:15 AM

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ok even though I killed the normal lords

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:15 AM

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haven't set up the bool yet

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:16 AM

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after quit to main menu

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not quit game

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:16 AM

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are you invisible

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you know what

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i'm gonna blame beta cause i can

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:16 AM

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invisible and I can't quit out

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because I'm stuck

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:16 AM

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f5

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:17 AM

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nope even quitting the game I'm stuck here

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f5 what?

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:17 AM

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debug mod

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force pause

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:17 AM

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I don't use debug mod

rain cedar May 25, 2018, 1:17 AM

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compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:17 AM

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not even once

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:17 AM

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wtf

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:17 AM

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HAHAHAHAHA

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:17 AM

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reeeeeeeeeeeeeee

rain cedar May 25, 2018, 1:17 AM

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Are you just putting every mod name in your repos?

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:17 AM

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that's the plan

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just steal all search results

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:18 AM

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y'all suck at SEO

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:18 AM

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what

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:18 AM

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search engine manipulation stuff

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It's literally as easy as writing a readme.md that talks about your mod and how great it is

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then people search "great hollow knight mod" and they get yours

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:18 AM

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effort

rain cedar May 25, 2018, 1:19 AM

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No I think the issue is that the page is just not indexed at all

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compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:19 AM

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because it has no readme

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at all

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:19 AM

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re

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just gonna make a readme w/ the words

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mantis gods

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the end

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:20 AM

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~~anyway I'm really hopeful in 2 weeks that my github repo comes up first when someone searches: "blackmoth github hollow knight"~~

rain cedar May 25, 2018, 1:21 AM

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The first 3 results for that are modding api

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Nice

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:21 AM

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you can't find blackmoth github with google

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I don't think

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:21 AM

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w h y

rain cedar May 25, 2018, 1:21 AM

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Yes I can

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It's the 4th result

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:21 AM

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lol

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:21 AM

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3rd for me

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*2nd

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compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:22 AM

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📎 unknown.png

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:22 AM

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if you add hollow knight it's 4th

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blackmoth readme needs the word hollow knight

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:22 AM

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the problem is the short description is "Repository for Blackmoth HK mod" and it should spell out hollow knight

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I bet it will be the first result after that

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not even joking

rain cedar May 25, 2018, 1:23 AM

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The thing is I don't actually want people to find my mods on google

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Because then they'll stick the source code in their game folder

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People already do that

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:23 AM

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if they're not in the discord idc

rain cedar May 25, 2018, 1:23 AM

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https://github.com/5FiftySix6/Mantis-Gods/blob/master/Mantis Gods/Mantis.cs#L236

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56 was triggered at some point

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:24 AM

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the shot wasn't being found and i was dying

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accurate

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:24 AM

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anyway I'm not sure I can downgrade, my assembly was built for beta and if I build an assembly for normal it breaks my controller

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and then I have to use sc controller keyboard emulation which is worse which will mean I will die a lot

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:25 AM

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ree

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i'll try and fix it

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later

rain cedar May 25, 2018, 1:25 AM

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Clear registry

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:25 AM

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ok

rain cedar May 25, 2018, 1:25 AM

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Mick has to do that every time he downgrades from lifeblood

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Also 56 don't do this https://github.com/5FiftySix6/Mantis-Gods/blob/master/Mantis Gods/Mantis.cs#L269

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?? can't be trusted on any Unity objects

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:25 AM

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I ran rm ~/.wine/system.reg and my game is broken

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:25 AM

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p a i n

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:26 AM

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ree not using modcommon

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for finding objects

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:26 AM

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what

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:26 AM

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oh nvm you are

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im stupid

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:26 AM

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mantis gods doesn't depend on modcommon

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w h a t

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i just took the extension

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:27 AM

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it uses the modcommon extension

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:27 AM

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yes

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:27 AM

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technically mine doesn't use modcommon at all either other than the extension

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but I want people installing modcommon

rain cedar May 25, 2018, 1:27 AM

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It's a good extension

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:28 AM

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so I just dynamically linked to it

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umm downgraded to normal and my save is still in a bad state

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can you send a save file pls 56

rain cedar May 25, 2018, 1:32 AM

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Debug mod tbh

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:32 AM

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this but idk if this has 32 nail damage or 21

📎 user1.dat

rain cedar May 25, 2018, 1:33 AM

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Wow 32 you cheater

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:33 AM

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ya know what seanpr is right I've made 2 mods without debugmod and it would have made it a lot easier

rain cedar May 25, 2018, 1:33 AM

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Yes

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:33 AM

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it's 21 damage

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:33 AM

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ima go compile it real quick

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:33 AM

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apparently

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:33 AM

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brb

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:33 AM

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why

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mantiswhy

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c e a s e

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:34 AM

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I haven't downloaded any mod binaries...

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:34 AM

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exactly

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mantiswhy

rain cedar May 25, 2018, 1:35 AM

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Binaries could be viruses

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Building from source much safer

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:35 AM

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that's why i always keep rm -rf in my source code

rain cedar May 25, 2018, 1:36 AM

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Joke's on you I run visual studio in an XP vm

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:37 AM

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I'm missing an assembly apparently

rain cedar May 25, 2018, 1:37 AM

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Very nice

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Which?

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:37 AM

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idk just know I have undefined references for some reason

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:38 AM

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???

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compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:38 AM

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im linking against playmaker, unityengine and assembly-csharp modded

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:38 AM

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why is hooks in there

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wtf

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:38 AM

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and it says the type Button and Image could not be found

rain cedar May 25, 2018, 1:38 AM

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UnityEngine.UI is a separate dll

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:38 AM

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oh durr

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thanks

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thought it was just unityengine.dll

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:38 AM

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don't sln have references in them

rain cedar May 25, 2018, 1:38 AM

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Yeah

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:39 AM

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yes but mine are ofc located somewhere different to wherever they are on seanpr's computer

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:40 AM

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but you could've just looked in the references menu

rain cedar May 25, 2018, 1:40 AM

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no

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:40 AM

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what

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why

rain cedar May 25, 2018, 1:40 AM

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Because no

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:41 AM

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🤔

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compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:41 AM

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apparently: DebugMod.GM.ReadyForRespawn(); isn't defined or something

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but idc because I'm probably not gonna need the kill self cheat anyway

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:42 AM

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i love it when i commit non-working code

rain cedar May 25, 2018, 1:42 AM

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GM is GameManager

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I just checked and lifeblood still has that function

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:42 AM

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tbh not sure if I'm using beta or normal assembly

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but w/e I have a dll now and it doesn't have that one function but I'll make do not using that cheat

rain cedar May 25, 2018, 1:43 AM

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Oh I see it takes an argument now

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It didn't in 1.2.2.1

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This is why you don't compile from source

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:43 AM

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see 56 this is why you build from source it helps you find bugs

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that function would have just broken it if I can used a prebuilt binary

rain cedar May 25, 2018, 1:44 AM

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Helps you find bugs that will never be fixed ayy

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Don't care enough to update debug

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:44 AM

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lol apparently there's a new version available of debugmod that's newer than the github one

rain cedar May 25, 2018, 1:44 AM

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It says new version always

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Because of some shit

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Github updated their TLS to one that Unity can't do

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For web requests

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So now checking version always returns 0.0

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And I was lazy with my version checking so I'm just doing current version != github version

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:46 AM

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uhh my spawnpoint is now I think forever messed up because when I die this is what I see and in the top right a mantis constantly throws his boomerang thing

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wait how do you show the debug menu after closing it

rain cedar May 25, 2018, 1:47 AM

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Wow you too

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It's F1 by default

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:47 AM

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ty

rain cedar May 25, 2018, 1:47 AM

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There's no flaws with the UI design

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Everyone else is just stupid for clicking that button before looking at binds

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:48 AM

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📎 amazing-10.mp4

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after I force respawn

rain cedar May 25, 2018, 1:48 AM

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Noclip in

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:49 AM

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what have you done

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why are there boomerangs

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with no mantises

rain cedar May 25, 2018, 1:49 AM

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ur mod gay

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I upload only fully working mods

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:49 AM

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rE

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imo it worked until avenging angle used it on beta

rain cedar May 25, 2018, 1:50 AM

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Everything works until it doesn't

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:50 AM

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anyway in debug mod to change your spawn to an existing bench

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that isn't where I am

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or should I just edit my save

rain cedar May 25, 2018, 1:52 AM

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Yeah to change bench spawn you turn on noclip and fly to the bench

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Then rest at it

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:52 AM

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uhh im trapped in a level with no exits I think

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unless 56 programmed a secret one in

rain cedar May 25, 2018, 1:53 AM

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Very nice

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:53 AM

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there are no exits

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u die

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:53 AM

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when I die I respawn in the god arena

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this is basically hell

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:54 AM

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yes

rain cedar May 25, 2018, 1:54 AM

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Quality mod

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You killed the save

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:55 AM

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ree

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:55 AM

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lol it rechallenged them and now there's 3 mantises at once

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:55 AM

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wait that was happening before

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i did donotdestroyonload on everything

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but the repo's updated

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unless you're using the broken version

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which i don't think i even commited

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:56 AM

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📎 amazing-11.mp4

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ofc this is because my save file is broken

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:56 AM

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amazing-11

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:56 AM

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but lol this video

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:57 AM

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ree i don't want to download beta

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but i also want to test it

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:57 AM

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ok I killed em where do I go now to get out

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:58 AM

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uhhh

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u don't

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that was gonna be the part of the dream scene thing

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:58 AM

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wait 1.0 doesn't even let you exit

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:58 AM

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yes

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except 1.0 does

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i just don't change the version number

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actual 1.0 is in the drive

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:58 AM

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nice versioning

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:58 AM

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this should be 2.0 alpha

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 1:58 AM

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oh

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huh

rain cedar May 25, 2018, 1:59 AM

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Just do what KDT did with the tracker and grab file version

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It gets you a shit looking version string but at least it's unique and 0 maintenance

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 1:59 AM

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ok

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 2:01 AM

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wait is this what you were saying about not being able to enter the mantis gods fight normally and needing dreamnail

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maybe that's why bugs

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 2:01 AM

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no

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that's fixed

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provided you have the actual build

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 2:01 AM

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so why my ghost no spawn

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 2:02 AM

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uhhhhhhhh

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 2:02 AM

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but I can hear the music

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 2:02 AM

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it does

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i just destroy the object

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 2:02 AM

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why I want my geo back

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your geo back

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 2:02 AM

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you could disable mantis gods w/ the in-game menu

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then dgate back to where you are

rain cedar May 25, 2018, 2:02 AM

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Or just don't destroy the shade

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I don't get the benefit of doing that

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 2:03 AM

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accident

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also i was just gonna make that act like the dream scenes do

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no shade and stuff

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or like white palace

compact sedge May 25, 2018, 2:04 AM

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so uh I fought them but the shade music was playing the whole time and it distracting

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 2:05 AM

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yeah i should fix that

rain cedar May 25, 2018, 2:05 AM

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Just leave it

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Nice feature

copper nacelle May 25, 2018, 2:05 AM

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but it'll be in the sky

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oh