#archived-modding-development | Hollow Knight | Page 98

rain cedar May 21, 2018, 4:33 AM

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Soooooo don't do that

leaden hedge May 21, 2018, 4:33 AM

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use MonoMod Hooks to add a hook to DamageEnemies.DoDamage(GameObject)

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override the DamageDealt part of the HitInstance

copper nacelle May 21, 2018, 4:34 AM

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isn't there a hitinstance mod hook

rain cedar May 21, 2018, 4:34 AM

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Yeah

leaden hedge May 21, 2018, 4:35 AM

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OnHitInstanceBeforeHit

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wow nice

flat forum May 21, 2018, 4:36 AM

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This got very confusing, because of Hell Mod...

public void OnAttack(AttackDirection dir)
        {

            if (PlayerData.instance.equippedCharm_6)
            {
                NailUpgrades = PlayerData.instance.nailSmithUpgrades

            PlayerData.instance.nailDamage = (5 + 4 * NailUpgrades) + 5 * (PlayerData.instance.maxHealth - PlayerData.instance.health)
            }
        }
        private void OnAfterAttack(AttackDirection dir)
        {
            PlayerData.instance.nailDamage = 5 + 4 * NailUpgrades
        }

if Hell Mod isn't there this should function normally, right?

leaden hedge May 21, 2018, 4:40 AM

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I literally gave you code that was 99% of the way there

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probably 100% of the way there

flat forum May 21, 2018, 4:40 AM

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sorry

leaden hedge May 21, 2018, 4:41 AM

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and no

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that won't work

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nailDamage isn't read often

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you have to either manually update the damage like I showed you

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or call an Fsm Event

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PlayMakerFSM.BroadcastEvent("UPDATE NAIL DAMAGE");

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has to be called if you want to update nail damage without manually setting it on the component

flat forum May 21, 2018, 4:43 AM

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mhm

compact sedge May 21, 2018, 4:44 AM

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Hey can I request to submit another mod to the mods list on the google drive?

leaden hedge May 21, 2018, 4:44 AM

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also I just realized it shouldn't matter if something tries to update between the hero getting hit

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because it should use GetInt("nailDamage")

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i hope 😠

compact sedge May 21, 2018, 4:51 AM

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I guess I should try being more direct.

I'd like to request to submit another mod to the mods list on google drive.

It's a mod called Grimmchild Upgrades and it's a mod that lets you buff, or otherwise change grimmchild almost any way you see fit. It doesn't impact save files (anymore). It's designed to work with Infinite Grimm so you can have a sense of progression for that mod. But it works perfectly fine without any other mods besides modcommon.

I'm still bugtesting it but I reckon it's tested enough to submit in about 30 minutes.

flat forum May 21, 2018, 4:53 AM

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can I try it?

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maybe I'll find something?

compact sedge May 21, 2018, 4:54 AM

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yes that would be very helpful thank you

flat forum May 21, 2018, 4:54 AM

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=)

compact sedge May 21, 2018, 4:55 AM

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📎 grimmchildupgrades.dll

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there is one bug I want to fix related to notch display but if you find anymore let me know

flat forum May 21, 2018, 4:59 AM

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Ok

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Both InfiniteGrimm and GrimmChild need API Modcommon, right?

compact sedge May 21, 2018, 5:02 AM

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yes

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this one optionally needs infinite grimm

flat forum May 21, 2018, 5:02 AM

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what versions

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it says they failed to run

compact sedge May 21, 2018, 5:02 AM

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pics?

flat forum May 21, 2018, 5:03 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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API os 1.3.1.5-41

compact sedge May 21, 2018, 5:04 AM

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ohno

rain cedar May 21, 2018, 5:04 AM

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Why do you have json in your mods folder?

flat forum May 21, 2018, 5:04 AM

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I have no idea how it ended up there

compact sedge May 21, 2018, 5:04 AM

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.Json.dll 🤔

flat forum May 21, 2018, 5:04 AM

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or why I haven't deleted it yet

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I must have mistakenly moved it with something else

compact sedge May 21, 2018, 5:04 AM

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send me your modlog btw

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I wanna see why mine failed to load

flat forum May 21, 2018, 5:06 AM

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I forgot where the ModLog was...

compact sedge May 21, 2018, 5:07 AM

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where your save files are

flat forum May 21, 2018, 5:07 AM

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Ah, yeah

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Ok

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gimme a minute

compact sedge May 21, 2018, 5:08 AM

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is there a hook for the player opening the inventory?

leaden hedge May 21, 2018, 5:08 AM

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no thats fsm

compact sedge May 21, 2018, 5:08 AM

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ok

leaden hedge May 21, 2018, 5:08 AM

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you could check on update if the inventory button is being pressed

rain cedar May 21, 2018, 5:09 AM

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There's a function CanOpenInventory or something

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Chances are if that's called it's because the player is trying to open it

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Monomod hook it

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And check if it's true

compact sedge May 21, 2018, 5:09 AM

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well my problem is that fsm is running some code that overrides the amount of notches I have set as accessable.

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might need to just take that out or change what it calls

leaden hedge May 21, 2018, 5:10 AM

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quickmap checks that too

compact sedge May 21, 2018, 5:10 AM

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oh nvm I have a better idea

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just hook on GetInt("charmSlotsFilled")

flat forum May 21, 2018, 5:10 AM

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Ok, here's the ModLog

compact sedge May 21, 2018, 5:12 AM

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you can put it on pastebin or something if you're having trouble uploading it.

flat forum May 21, 2018, 5:13 AM

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📎 ModLog.txt

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Ok here

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I was going to just paste the parts about the API, Modcommon and 2 mods

compact sedge May 21, 2018, 5:14 AM

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System.Reflection.ReflectionTypeLoadException

oof I dunn messed something up I think

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and this really sucks because idk how reflection really works

rain cedar May 21, 2018, 5:14 AM

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Can you post your reflection code again?

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I'll take a look at it

flat forum May 21, 2018, 5:15 AM

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?

rain cedar May 21, 2018, 5:15 AM

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Not you

flat forum May 21, 2018, 5:15 AM

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what are reflections?

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why do they break?

rain cedar May 21, 2018, 5:15 AM

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System.Reflection

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It's a namespace with a bunch of useful things in it for grabbing variables that might not exist or are private

compact sedge May 21, 2018, 5:16 AM

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hold up 1 sec

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for infinite grimm

This is in Initialize grimmchildupgrades = (from assembly in AppDomain.CurrentDomain.GetAssemblies() from type in assembly.GetTypes() where type.Namespace == "GrimmchildUpgrades" select type).Any();

rain cedar May 21, 2018, 5:17 AM

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Oh that's just the code I had for modcommon

compact sedge May 21, 2018, 5:17 AM

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and the same line in GetVersion

bool gcup = (from assembly in AppDomain.CurrentDomain.GetAssemblies() from type in assembly.GetTypes() where type.Namespace == "GrimmchildUpgrades" select type).Any();

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yeah

rain cedar May 21, 2018, 5:18 AM

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Should be fine, I'd think

compact sedge May 21, 2018, 5:18 AM

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so that's for infinite grimm

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for the other one I also have in a try catch thing:

if ((int)Type.GetType("infinitegrimm.InfiniteGlobalVars, infinitegrimm").GetField("versionInt").GetValue(null) >= 300)

rain cedar May 21, 2018, 5:19 AM

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Well if it's in a try/catch it shouldn't break anything

compact sedge May 21, 2018, 5:22 AM

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ok well it works on my machine so I'm confused

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can you send me the dlls you are using

rain cedar May 21, 2018, 5:22 AM

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It loaded for me too

compact sedge May 21, 2018, 5:24 AM

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every combination of those two mods loads for me so I'm confused

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oh uh seanpr you may notice when you press i it shows the wrong number of notches available

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I fixed that but it's probably still broken on yours

rain cedar May 21, 2018, 5:25 AM

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Wtf you still have inventory on default?

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I is such a garbage button

compact sedge May 21, 2018, 5:25 AM

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I use a controller

rain cedar May 21, 2018, 5:26 AM

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Well it showed 3 notches when I equipped it

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That seems right

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Since 2 is normal

compact sedge May 21, 2018, 5:26 AM

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now exit the bench and press i

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or whatever button

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it should only show two

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unless you somehow hacked my computer and took the latest version off of it

rain cedar May 21, 2018, 5:26 AM

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Ah yeah I see

compact sedge May 21, 2018, 5:27 AM

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but if you find any different bugs to that bug let me know

rain cedar May 21, 2018, 5:28 AM

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Are the upgrades less damage required on hard?

compact sedge May 21, 2018, 5:29 AM

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no sorry

rain cedar May 21, 2018, 5:29 AM

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Brutal

compact sedge May 21, 2018, 5:29 AM

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I don't track if scores were gotten on hardmode or regular

rain cedar May 21, 2018, 5:39 AM

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What's the damage required for max grimmchild?

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Well I'm at 6 notches so I guess whatever the number is I hit it

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I found a pretty abusable bug

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Although it might not be possible in the unreleased version

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Since it's to do with the notches

compact sedge May 21, 2018, 5:43 AM

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ok

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is it upgrading grimmchild doesn't cause overcharming

rain cedar May 21, 2018, 5:43 AM

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Nah

compact sedge May 21, 2018, 5:43 AM

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because if so that's fixed but for somereason the graphics doesn't display properly

rain cedar May 21, 2018, 5:43 AM

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Open/close inventory on bench to lower notches used

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So you can get a super overcharm

compact sedge May 21, 2018, 5:43 AM

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yes that should be fixed

rain cedar May 21, 2018, 5:43 AM

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Cool

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Because I'm at 18 notches used

compact sedge May 21, 2018, 5:44 AM

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📎 grimmchildupgrades.dll

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also 6 is the max notches it will use by default but you probably aren't at max level

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levels 4, 5, and 6 all use 6 notches but level 6 is stronger

rain cedar May 21, 2018, 5:44 AM

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Oh ok

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What's the damage?

compact sedge May 21, 2018, 5:44 AM

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since I want grimmchild to get more OP as a reward for doing well in it

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the max damage is 35 which is so chosen to be exactly enough to one shot primal aspids

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the max attack speed is 2.5x normal which is around once every 2/3s of a second

rain cedar May 21, 2018, 5:45 AM

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I meant damage required on grimm

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To get max

compact sedge May 21, 2018, 5:45 AM

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oh 15k

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sorry

rain cedar May 21, 2018, 5:46 AM

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Oh yeah I only hit 9k-ish

compact sedge May 21, 2018, 5:46 AM

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that's level 4. level 5 is 10k to 15k

rain cedar May 21, 2018, 5:46 AM

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Dang

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Takes a lot to go from 5-6

compact sedge May 21, 2018, 5:47 AM

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well levels 4 5 and 6 are all very far apart because of what I said earlier about notch cost not going up

rain cedar May 21, 2018, 5:47 AM

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Yeah makes sense

compact sedge May 21, 2018, 5:47 AM

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level 4 is designed as the last level that players should be able to reach with some but not a lot of practice

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and the reason for that is it's the first level that gives you ghost balls

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it will fire through walls at enemies and the balls themselves go through walls

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this is mildly buggy in a few rare areas because TC placed enemies out of bounds in stupid places

rain cedar May 21, 2018, 5:48 AM

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Cool

compact sedge May 21, 2018, 5:48 AM

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but my code itself works fine

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oh and that DLL should fix the inventory bug you had

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I forgot if I mentioned that

rain cedar May 21, 2018, 5:50 AM

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Yeah you did

compact sedge May 21, 2018, 5:56 AM

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there is still a graphical bug with it but I can't easily fix it unless ModHooks.Instance.CharmUpdateHook happened earlier than it actually does.

rain cedar May 21, 2018, 5:56 AM

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Isn't later desirable over earlier?

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So you can undo changes the game does if you have to

compact sedge May 21, 2018, 5:57 AM

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well here's the thing. I need it to be later to actually apply the proper overcharm status. I need it to be earlier so the menu gets updated on the proper overcharm status.

rain cedar May 21, 2018, 5:58 AM

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Gotcha

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Monomod hooks tbh

compact sedge May 21, 2018, 5:58 AM

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tbh I haven't looked into monomod yet

rain cedar May 21, 2018, 5:59 AM

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It's really simple

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You'd just have something like this

public override void Initialize()
{
    ModHooks.Instance.CharmUpdateHook += After;
    On.HeroController.CharmUpdate += Before;
}

public void Before(Idk args)
{
    //Code
    orig(self);
}

public void After()
{
    //Code
}```

compact sedge May 21, 2018, 6:01 AM

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I'll look into it for version 0.2.0.

As of now the only problem is you get minor inventory graphical glitches when you overcharm yourself so it's not a huge priority to fix.

rain cedar May 21, 2018, 6:01 AM

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Yeah no big deal

compact sedge May 21, 2018, 6:09 AM

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Alright well I'm about to go to sleep so I guess I'll leave the zip here. Please reject it and ping me if you find anything gamebreaking or even mildly large and I'll check out any issues tomorrow. Also anyone else that wants to test it and report bugs I would be super happy. There's definitely a lot to test and a lot that could potentially go wrong but I also know a lot more about C# so hopefully that isn't a problem.

Edit: Obsolete see below

📎 API_Grimmchild_Upgrades.zip

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like my other mod it requires ModCommon btw

rain cedar May 21, 2018, 6:10 AM

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Neato

compact sedge May 21, 2018, 6:22 AM

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oh I did find a very small bug I'd like to fix first (I lied about going to sleep right away) I found it on the 6 flame save and it happens because I forgot to make absolutely everything require killing nkg first

📎 API_Grimmchild_Upgrades.zip

warped sinew May 21, 2018, 7:15 AM

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Is it possible to make a charm lvl/upgrade system?

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Notch cost, effect, combos, etc?

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That would be cool

young walrus May 21, 2018, 7:17 AM

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it is if explosion pogo, inventory dropping, and the VS pickup change can be reverted.
hollowdab

flat forum May 21, 2018, 7:20 AM

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How do you level it up?

rain cedar May 21, 2018, 7:21 AM

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The mod posted right before you asked is actually that

flat forum May 21, 2018, 7:22 AM

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Oh

compact sedge May 21, 2018, 7:23 AM

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Hey Graig , that's sorta what I'm trying to do, except it levels up automatically based on how well you do in another mod.

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oh shoot sorry didn't mean to ping

warped sinew May 21, 2018, 7:41 AM

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Sounds cool

atomic bane May 21, 2018, 2:02 PM

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Hello, where can i get the bonfire mod?

exotic venture May 21, 2018, 2:04 PM

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it's currently busted for current patch

solemn rivet May 21, 2018, 2:06 PM

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is it?

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well, I think it is for the beta

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but it should work for 1.3.1.5 iirc

exotic venture May 21, 2018, 2:08 PM

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was it updated for that?

solemn rivet May 21, 2018, 2:09 PM

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I think I did update it, yeah

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but now I'm not sure anymore

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Mystery is making me second guess myself

exotic venture May 21, 2018, 2:09 PM

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if you're not sure of it how can anyone be sure of it NotLikeGrov

solemn rivet May 21, 2018, 2:09 PM

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I was pretty sure until you said it wasn't

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just checking it

atomic bane May 21, 2018, 2:10 PM

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What other interesting mods ate there?

solemn rivet May 21, 2018, 2:10 PM

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raziel, you can get bonfire and the other mods in the gdrive in the pins

atomic bane May 21, 2018, 2:10 PM

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Theres not much information anywhere

solemn rivet May 21, 2018, 2:10 PM

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the readmes

exotic venture May 21, 2018, 2:11 PM

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the google drive has all the mods with readmes you'd ever need

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anything else is scattered around the channel

atomic bane May 21, 2018, 2:11 PM

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Oh ok. Guess i didnt explore enough

solemn rivet May 21, 2018, 2:14 PM

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just checked, bonfire should work on 1.3.1.5

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dunno about beta

exotic venture May 21, 2018, 2:15 PM

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current version is 1.3.2.8 or something like that

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so i guess some parts are probably busted

solemn rivet May 21, 2018, 2:15 PM

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oh

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is it out of beta already?

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sigh

exotic venture May 21, 2018, 2:15 PM

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it is out of beta, but public beta is still being updated

solemn rivet May 21, 2018, 2:16 PM

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I see

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I haven't been playing much lately

exotic venture May 21, 2018, 2:16 PM

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1.3.1.5 is current patch

solemn rivet May 21, 2018, 2:16 PM

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oh

exotic venture May 21, 2018, 2:16 PM

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1.3.2.8 is beta patch

solemn rivet May 21, 2018, 2:16 PM

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oh, then that's fine

atomic bane May 21, 2018, 2:16 PM

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Any idea if the grimm child mod is compatible with other mods?

solemn rivet May 21, 2018, 2:16 PM

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I can try and see if it works on beta but :effort:

exotic venture May 21, 2018, 2:16 PM

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probably not worth

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since it gets updated frequently

solemn rivet May 21, 2018, 2:16 PM

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should be compatible with all of them, Raziel

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I mean

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all API mods

atomic bane May 21, 2018, 2:23 PM

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Nice info on api mods. Thanks

solemn rivet May 21, 2018, 2:24 PM

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np!

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all api mods should be at least partially compatible with eachother

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but boss rush is curr broken

steep sail May 21, 2018, 3:08 PM

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🤔 thinkgrub

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I use Modding API+EnemyHPBar

inland valley May 21, 2018, 3:09 PM

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anybody know of an in-game enable/disable version of HK-invulnerability for 1.2.2.1?

steep sail May 21, 2018, 3:09 PM

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And I see in menu 1.3.1.5 for version

solemn rivet May 21, 2018, 3:25 PM

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sweet jp - debug mod

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mapmaker lich - what do you mean?

fringe schooner May 21, 2018, 5:53 PM

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@copper nacelle you know that hollowtext thing u made

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it doesnt work for me

exotic venture May 21, 2018, 6:03 PM

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what do you mean it doesn't work for you

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have you installed and unpacked the zip

fringe schooner May 21, 2018, 6:17 PM

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yes i installed it and all

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but when i do the thing it just gives me a pic that uses 0 kb and has nothing on it

compact sedge May 21, 2018, 6:17 PM

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does it ask you for a file name to save the picture as

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you need to save it as a png

fringe schooner May 21, 2018, 6:17 PM

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oh

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i tried jpeg

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ok

compact sedge May 21, 2018, 6:18 PM

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and also you need to with your text, not have any special characters I think because the exe is broken

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the python script fixes it but that requires running python

fringe schooner May 21, 2018, 6:18 PM

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worked now thx

📎 ban.png

compact sedge May 21, 2018, 11:57 PM

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So I have a question about monomod. I have a known public function that I want to run my own code directly after, but before anything else. but which doesn't have an existing hook. How do I add my own hook to this function?

copper nacelle May 21, 2018, 11:57 PM

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what

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you want to run your code right after the function

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just hook it

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and call orig

rain cedar May 21, 2018, 11:58 PM

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Runtime detour hooks hook everything

copper nacelle May 21, 2018, 11:58 PM

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then your code

compact sedge May 21, 2018, 11:58 PM

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there's no hook in the ModHooks thing

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and I'm not quite sure how to add my own hook

rain cedar May 21, 2018, 11:58 PM

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On.namespace.class.function += hookfunc

copper nacelle May 21, 2018, 11:58 PM

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^

solemn rivet May 21, 2018, 11:58 PM

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^^

compact sedge May 21, 2018, 11:58 PM

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will that run right after or right before

copper nacelle May 21, 2018, 11:58 PM

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either

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whatever you want

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you entirely stop the old function from running

rain cedar May 21, 2018, 11:59 PM

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You get an argument which is a delegate for the old function

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Choose to call it whenever

copper nacelle May 21, 2018, 11:59 PM

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and you have to call it

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orig(args)

compact sedge May 21, 2018, 11:59 PM

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wait really it just overrides the old function?

rain cedar May 21, 2018, 11:59 PM

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Yes

copper nacelle May 21, 2018, 11:59 PM

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yes

compact sedge May 21, 2018, 11:59 PM

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dank just what I needed time to fix some code in the original game

solemn rivet May 22, 2018, 12:00 AM

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private void NailSlash_StartSlash(On.NailSlash.orig_StartSlash orig, NailSlash self)
{
    self.GetComponent<tk2dSpriteAnimator>().Sprite.color = Color.black;
    orig(self);
}```

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example

rain cedar May 22, 2018, 12:01 AM

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Another

private bool HeroController_CanJump(On.HeroController.orig_CanJump orig, HeroController self)
{
    bool dashing = HeroController.instance.cState.dashing;
    HeroController.instance.cState.dashing = false;
    bool canJump = orig(self);
    HeroController.instance.cState.dashing = dashing;
    return canJump;
}```

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Essentially removes the dashing check from CanJump

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 12:01 AM

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oh that's where you put the on x thing

rain cedar May 22, 2018, 12:01 AM

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Well kinda

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You need to hook it in initialize too

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On.HeroController.CanJump += HeroController_CanJump;```

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I just do that part then tab complete to get the arguments

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 12:02 AM

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really that's all there is to it

solemn rivet May 22, 2018, 12:02 AM

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On.NailSlash.StartSlash += NailSlash_StartSlash;

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yeah

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you need to reference the dll tho

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 12:03 AM

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does this apply to any game with monomod?

solemn rivet May 22, 2018, 12:03 AM

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and add it to the mods folder

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but that's it

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well, you have to compile a specific dll

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which creates the delegate for every method

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 12:03 AM

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how much work is it anyway making the modding api

solemn rivet May 22, 2018, 12:03 AM

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56 has done this for HK

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 12:04 AM

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cuz ur making it sound like a lot less work than I would have thought

solemn rivet May 22, 2018, 12:04 AM

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it kinda is

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the modding API's hooks are still useful tho

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specifically when you need to hook "in the middle" of a method

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neither before nor after

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 12:05 AM

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what does that mean

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like they run async or something?

rain cedar May 22, 2018, 12:05 AM

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Nah it's synchronous

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 12:05 AM

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like

solemn rivet May 22, 2018, 12:05 AM

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lemme pick an example rq

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 12:05 AM

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// part of code

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ur stuff

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// rest of code

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 12:06 AM

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ok

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so the part in the middle you all chose to make the most sense for mod development

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 12:06 AM

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yeah

solemn rivet May 22, 2018, 12:07 AM

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like, here: cs bool flag6 = this.inputHandler.inputActions.dash.WasPressed && !ModHooks.Instance.OnDashPressed(); if (flag6) { bool flag7 = this.CanDash(); if (flag7) { this.HeroDash(); } else { this.dashQueueSteps = 0; this.dashQueuing = true; } }

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 12:07 AM

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what namespace is "On" in

solemn rivet May 22, 2018, 12:08 AM

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this is literally on line 51 of the HeroController.LookForQueueInput() method

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eh

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did you add the hooks.dll?

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 12:08 AM

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ohh wait are people gonna need that to run my program

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 12:08 AM

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yes

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like modcommon

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 12:08 AM

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that's a lot of deps for a small mod

solemn rivet May 22, 2018, 12:09 AM

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just ship them with the mod

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shhh

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or add them as dependencies on the modlinks.xml

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and the installers will auto-dl them

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 12:09 AM

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the second one

solemn rivet May 22, 2018, 12:09 AM

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the first one is for mems

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we were discussing possibly merging the api and the hooks

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 12:10 AM

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can I statically link hooks or is it not a foss license

solemn rivet May 22, 2018, 12:10 AM

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but then it was argued that maintenance would be a bitch

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 12:10 AM

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what

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when did the second part happen

rain cedar May 22, 2018, 12:10 AM

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The issue is it doesn't let you compile against .net 3.5

solemn rivet May 22, 2018, 12:10 AM

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eh

rain cedar May 22, 2018, 12:11 AM

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Idk what gradow is talking about

solemn rivet May 22, 2018, 12:11 AM

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well

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 12:11 AM

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wait what .net is hooks built for

solemn rivet May 22, 2018, 12:11 AM

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I can search, but I'm not sure I'm gonna find it

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 12:11 AM

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I've been doing everything in .net 3.5

rain cedar May 22, 2018, 12:11 AM

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That's fine

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 12:11 AM

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3.5 was working for me with the hooks dll

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idk

rain cedar May 22, 2018, 12:11 AM

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You can use 3.5, just not if it's merged with the main assembly

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 12:11 AM

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I'm gonna statically link it unless anyone here explicitly tells me I can't and just see if that works

solemn rivet May 22, 2018, 12:11 AM

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someone said something about merging the two, but then someone else mentioned that having one big dll would be a pain to maintain

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and I think that was that

rain cedar May 22, 2018, 12:12 AM

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It's like one line in the post compile actions

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It doesn't make anything harder to maintain

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 12:12 AM

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I can't find an open source license so sue me I guess (no but really pls don't, please just send a C&D and I'll stop statically linking hooks)

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 12:13 AM

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why tho

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just add it as a dependency

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 12:13 AM

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ok but like crossroads already looks broken with 2 deps

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and then I add a third one

solemn rivet May 22, 2018, 12:13 AM

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zote

📎 unknown.png

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 12:13 AM

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really tho y'all should merge it

solemn rivet May 22, 2018, 12:13 AM

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may 6th

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 12:13 AM

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may 6th, before I touch a single line of code

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 12:13 AM

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🔫

exotic venture May 22, 2018, 12:14 AM

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you dug too deep and died too soon

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 12:14 AM

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touche

exotic venture May 22, 2018, 12:14 AM

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now you're cursed in #archived-modding-development

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enjoy

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 12:15 AM

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I could just add
fixCharmBug()

to Update()

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because running getInt and getBool every frame 40 times probably won't hurt perf too much

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don't screenshot this hack btw

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oh is Hooks.dll literally just running https://github.com/0x0ade/MonoMod/tree/master/MonoMod.RuntimeDetour.HookGen on the hollow knight executable?

GitHub

0x0ade/MonoMod

MonoMod - A general purpose .NET assembly modding "basework", powered by cecil.

rain cedar May 22, 2018, 12:25 AM

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Yes

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 12:25 AM

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and merging it w/ all the annoying mono dlls

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but yeah

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 12:29 AM

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oh then I'm definitely not allowed to statically link it and y'all are probably not allowed to put it in your git repo for the modding api.

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but you could add it to the things built when building the modding api

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 12:30 AM

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that's what i do

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 12:31 AM

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so instead of combining both DLLs into one. why not just have it build both separately and put both dlls in the zip fiile?

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then you don't get the problem that you screenshotted of mine

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 12:31 AM

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what problem

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 12:31 AM

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and it effectively becomes one mod

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for most people

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/327461802311155714/448277186839838730/unknown.png

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 12:31 AM

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but what

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 12:32 AM

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merge them into the same zip file instead of into the same dll

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 12:32 AM

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it just merges them after making the hooks

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 12:32 AM

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that's my opinion

hazy sentinel May 22, 2018, 12:32 AM

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do i smell compact mode

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 12:32 AM

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not my screenshot

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but yes I do use compact mode

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 12:32 AM

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but you use compact

hollow pier May 22, 2018, 12:34 AM

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respect 0

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 12:34 AM

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well at least I'm not verulean.

hollow pier May 22, 2018, 12:35 AM

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respect -0

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 12:36 AM

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why is my modhooks 5MB but the one in the drive only 1MB?

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What else did you do 56?

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 12:36 AM

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uhh

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idk

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 12:37 AM

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📎 unknown.png

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 12:38 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 12:38 AM

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what version of HK did you use, what version of monomod

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 12:38 AM

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cause mine's better

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hollowdab

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mine also has playmaker and the mono stuff merged

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 12:38 AM

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ok, well if this is an unreproducable build I'm not linking my mod against it.

solemn rivet May 22, 2018, 12:38 AM

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kek

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 12:38 AM

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cornywoke

solemn rivet May 22, 2018, 12:39 AM

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reproduce

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cornywoke

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 12:39 AM

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did you use ilmerge for that?

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 12:39 AM

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no

solemn rivet May 22, 2018, 12:39 AM

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there was some conflict iirc

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some hooks poof vanished

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 12:40 AM

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did you build the hooks dll by hand or do you have a script for it?

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 12:40 AM

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il-repack

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just use the one in the drive wtf

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 12:41 AM

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no because I'm stubborn

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tomato tomatoe

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 12:58 AM

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so to be clear you just merged Assembly-CSharp, PlayMaker, and Mono.Security?

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or is there anything else you merged

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and did you use the patched or unpatched Assembly-CSharp?

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 1:01 AM

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imo just check the pr

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i merged a bunch of stuff

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 1:02 AM

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bruh you have a pr

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dang

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well here I was trying to recreate it from vague discord answers

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 1:02 AM

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https://github.com/seanpr96/HollowKnight.Modding/pull/14

GitHub

Adds MonoMod's Runtimedetour hooks to the assembly by 5FiftySix6 ...

also updates monomod

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 1:06 AM

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you should use nuget for the monomod binaries but otherwise looks fine.

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 1:06 AM

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monomod was already in that folder

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i just replaced it w./ new binaries

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 1:07 AM

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well then whoever put it there should use nuget

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 1:07 AM

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corny

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wait

#

wtf

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 1:15 AM

#

dank got a 10MB Assembly file

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I'm gonna try building it using your fork and see if that works better

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 1:15 AM

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fork makes an api

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you have to change it to make hooks

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 1:16 AM

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you think your fork is ever gonna get accepted

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I know I kinda rallied against you 3 weeks ago

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but I'm down to switch sides

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 1:17 AM

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idk

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aaa

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it's missing a commit

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which swaps to il-repack

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 1:17 AM

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I saw that

#

but both are open source so I figured you just wanted to use il-merge

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even though it's slower

#

and worse

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 1:17 AM

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did i just forget to push

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oh i did

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 1:18 AM

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here I'll give your PR a thumbs up. hope that's enough support because that's all I can really do

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 1:18 AM

#

hollowknice

hollow pier May 22, 2018, 1:21 AM

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donate $100 for shitmodst 2

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 1:21 AM

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make your own shitmodts™ 2

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and avoid trademarks

hollow pier May 22, 2018, 1:22 AM

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schistmodst

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 1:22 AM

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yes

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this works too

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or you could call it

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I can't believe it's not shitmodst

hollow pier May 22, 2018, 1:22 AM

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i cant believe shitmodst is fucking dead

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 1:23 AM

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sadgrub

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 1:29 AM

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oh geeze your one also built a giant assembly-csharp.dll @copper nacelle

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9MB

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probably the only size difference is you used il-repack instead of the crappier one

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w/e I still wanna see it merged and it makes sense since you merge so much stuff together

#

also it works so I guess my plan now is to build my 0.2 version against the merged DLL and I'll just leave the 0.1.5 version as is with the one minor inventory bug since I still think it's good enough for general use.

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 1:34 AM

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wtf

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my assembly w/ hooks was like

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4mb

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📎 ModdedWithOn.dll

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3.11

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1.3.1.5

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i think that has the playmaker stuff but idk

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i can remake it real fast

exotic venture May 22, 2018, 1:38 AM

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oh shit

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watch out tc will barge in and DMCA the channel

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 1:38 AM

#

and now it's 9mb

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wtf

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

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maybe it was the playmaker stuff

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 1:39 AM

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I told you it was 9MB

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 1:39 AM

#

i have a hooks that's 6

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idk

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 1:39 AM

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lol is this really all there is to it?

📎 unknown.png

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 1:40 AM

#

yeah

fair rampart May 22, 2018, 1:40 AM

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Yep

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That's how hooks work

#

~~It's fucking awesome~~

#

You can also do -=

#

Which removes the hook

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 1:40 AM

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yeah

#

put that in ondestroy for monobehaviours

fair rampart May 22, 2018, 1:40 AM

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^

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 1:40 AM

#

and in deinit for itoggleablemod

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otherwise you get 5 onscene hooks when you quit out a bunch

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 1:41 AM

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I delete it in OnDestroy

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it should be deleted

fair rampart May 22, 2018, 1:42 AM

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That should work

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As long as the += is in Start or Awake

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 1:42 AM

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how's rainworld modding btw

fair rampart May 22, 2018, 1:42 AM

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Good!

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I may be putting it down soon 😅

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 1:42 AM

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oof

fair rampart May 22, 2018, 1:43 AM

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And not finishing all those projects I said I'd finish

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I don't really think I can dedicate myself to any one community, especially now that partiality is going to start growing more and more

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 1:43 AM

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makes sense

fair rampart May 22, 2018, 1:43 AM

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I'm going to keep finding games I like and want to mod, and leaving other ones

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 1:43 AM

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mod hk when

fair rampart May 22, 2018, 1:43 AM

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Never, haha

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You guys have got it under control

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 1:44 AM

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grimm

fair rampart May 22, 2018, 1:44 AM

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I don't mod games to make mods for them

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I mod them to show people it's possible

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 1:44 AM

#

o

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 1:45 AM

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but everything's possible

fair rampart May 22, 2018, 1:48 AM

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@compact sedge Some communities don't think so

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 1:48 AM

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sadgrub

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 2:15 AM

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ugh I rebuilt modding api using 56's modding api and my controller stopped working in linux

#

I'm confused about this. my controller has never worked with any prebuilt modding api binaries but when I made my own it did work.

#

and now it's not working again

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 2:16 AM

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did you swap out the vanilla folder

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with your own stuff

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 2:17 AM

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omg ur right I forgot I needed to use the linux dlls in the vanilla folder

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 2:17 AM

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big think

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 2:18 AM

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time to wait for steam to reverify

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 2:19 AM

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you could just

#

use your modded assembly

#

and then merge manually

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 2:20 AM

#

yeah I did do that before to check that your PR worked but I want to be able to one click build

#

weird question but

#

why are the dlls slightly different on linux

#

and will modding api ever do anything to address this?

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 2:21 AM

#

no idea

#

we were building with the linux dlls before i think

#

then we compared and they were the same

#

so we just started using the windows ones w/ diff folder structure

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 2:22 AM

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my linux dll was like 2KB larger

#

oh wait

#

maybe that was because lifeblood beta

#

maybe that's what fixed it

#

idk

#

ok yeah it's literally not a problem with modapi or if it is it's a problem with modapi that's fixed by just building against the beta branch

fair rampart May 22, 2018, 2:28 AM

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Hey anybody see kdt

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(It's an art movement)

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 2:29 AM

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so how do you run the original function after doing your hool

solemn rivet May 22, 2018, 2:29 AM

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orig(self)

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 2:29 AM

#

📎 unknown.png

#

cool thanks

fair rampart May 22, 2018, 2:29 AM

#

What those

supple sigil May 22, 2018, 2:29 AM

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what do they doo

solemn rivet May 22, 2018, 2:29 AM

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u wot m8

supple sigil May 22, 2018, 2:30 AM

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they the cut charms

#

what did you make their effects?

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 2:30 AM

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wait are those cut charms

supple sigil May 22, 2018, 2:30 AM

#

yes

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 2:30 AM

#

I overrode the charm display function

#

and I forgot to run it

#

why is the middle one normal

supple sigil May 22, 2018, 2:30 AM

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http://hollowknight.wikia.com/wiki/Cut_Content

Hollow Knight Wiki

Cut Content

A centipede-like charging creature removed from the game fairly late in development. It's Journal entry would've read This placid herbivore doesn't seem to wish harm on any of the creatures it...

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 2:30 AM

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lightbringer uses those assets but colored

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iirc

supple sigil May 22, 2018, 2:31 AM

#

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5AZiHZG5w4

YouTube

Astoroth

HOLLOW KNIGHT - Cut Charms

Charms found in Hollow Knight's image files. Some descriptions from during the kickstarter, but not much is known. SUBSCRIBE ► http://www.youtube.com/subscri...

▶ Play video

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also rip astoroth

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 2:31 AM

#

hollowf my void heart is stuck as a broken asset now

supple sigil May 22, 2018, 2:31 AM

#

bless his soul

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 2:32 AM

#

I need to edit my save to fix I guess

#

no wait it's just orig(self) didn't do anything

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 2:33 AM

#

did you call it w/ all the args

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 2:33 AM

#

nope nvm

#

im just dumb

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 2:33 AM

#

🔫

#

what did you do

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 2:33 AM

#

I ran orig(self) in the wrong function

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 2:33 AM

#

advanced

#

thinking

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 2:33 AM

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I ran it in the calculatecharmnotches function which I'm just disabling

fair rampart May 22, 2018, 2:34 AM

#

What happened to astoroth

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 2:34 AM

#

@fair rampart uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 3:36 AM

#

ughhh I can't for the life of me figure out what class does the thing I need to do and I don't wanna dump the fsm data again

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 3:37 AM

#

do you not keep the save_fsm folder?

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 3:39 AM

#

i have it

#

also how do you search for variables in dnspy

#

it's only searching for class names

#

and variables where they are defined

#

but not where they are changed

#

or accessed

#

I wanna know whenever a var is accessed

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 3:40 AM

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right click the variable -> analyze

#

ctrl-shift-r works as well

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 3:41 AM

#

exactly what I needed

#

to find where a var is used

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 4:32 AM

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Hey KDT how do I actually use your viewer

#

like how do I import a file

#

if I have a bunch of json files

rain cedar May 22, 2018, 4:35 AM

#

You need to rename the one you want to look at to data.json and add var fsm = to the beginning

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 4:35 AM

#

ok thanks

#

the readme basically says figure it out yourself

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 5:44 AM

#

btw if I'm able to ditch Monomod entirely I'm gonna have a probably bug free mod release tonight

#

"bugfree"

#

jk I need monomod

river tiger May 22, 2018, 6:38 AM

#

Back

#

Been a while since I've beein #archived-modding-development

#

Any progress with the BM mod Gradow?

rain cedar May 22, 2018, 6:40 AM

#

You mean blackmoth?

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 7:28 AM

#

Alright I'm gonna stop trying to fix the inventory bug because the charms menu FSM is one of the worst in the game.

#

I'm gonna just wait for G&G and hope they make changes to it to fix it so that I can just use GetInt and GetBool overrides

#

Actually I need y'all's opinion

#

What is worse:

If the game crashes and you uninstall the mod right after, your notch cost on one charm will be messed up until you edit your save file (exiting the game normally will not trigger this)

If you overcharm yourself intentionally you will get a graphical bug that requires closing and opening the inventory to fix it. Same with unovercharming.

#

Now that I'm thinking about it I think the first one is "better" but I want some second opinions

rain cedar May 22, 2018, 7:32 AM

#

The game is pretty stable unless some other mod is causing crashes

#

At which point that's not your problem

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 7:32 AM

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I think alt f4 might also count as game crash not 100% sure

rain cedar May 22, 2018, 7:33 AM

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Nah that still calls the quit hook

#

Like 90% sure of that

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 7:33 AM

#

oh and the other thing that would cause it is if the person quits the game normally, replaces their save with one of the backup saves, and uninstalls the mod before launching the game.

rain cedar May 22, 2018, 7:33 AM

#

Why would anyone do that?

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 7:33 AM

#

but like why would anyone do that?

#

oh you beat me to it

#

alright so option 1 then you think?

rain cedar May 22, 2018, 7:34 AM

#

Neither are ideal but that one is probably better

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 7:35 AM

#

you know what's not ideal?

📎 unknown.png

#

and that it ignores GetBool and GetInt

#

sorta

rain cedar May 22, 2018, 7:35 AM

#

Game's bad yeah

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 7:36 AM

#

is applicationQuitHook the return to menu one or is that something different

rain cedar May 22, 2018, 7:37 AM

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No that's when the game closes

#

I assumed you were using it already and the game just didn't call it when it crashed

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 7:39 AM

#

actually would this work?

📎 unknown.png

rain cedar May 22, 2018, 7:39 AM

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Yeah probably

#

Why white though?

hardy echo May 22, 2018, 7:39 AM

#

Is there like a hollow knight mod database?

rain cedar May 22, 2018, 7:40 AM

#

Yeah they're all at the google drive link in the pins

hardy echo May 22, 2018, 7:40 AM

#

...

rain cedar May 22, 2018, 7:40 AM

#

Nice entitlement

hardy echo May 22, 2018, 7:40 AM

#

Damn... more effort

rain cedar May 22, 2018, 7:41 AM

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I don't even know what effort there is

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 7:41 AM

#

oh so much effort

#

clicking a pin

rain cedar May 22, 2018, 7:41 AM

#

It's literally a list of mod downloads

hardy echo May 22, 2018, 7:41 AM

#

Umm can i show you the mod databbase im used to?

rain cedar May 22, 2018, 7:41 AM

#

No

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 7:41 AM

#

the only thing that sucks is it's hard to tell at a glance which ones support the right version

rain cedar May 22, 2018, 7:41 AM

#

Yeah that could be better

hardy echo May 22, 2018, 7:42 AM

#

Sorry about the link but

#

http://www.raindb.net/index.html

rain cedar May 22, 2018, 7:42 AM

#

That's nice and all but unless somebody wants to design a site like that for this game, pay to host it, and manage it thereafter google drive is what we're using

hardy echo May 22, 2018, 7:42 AM

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Ok

#

Thanks tho

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 7:48 AM

#

wow that actually works!

#

thanks for the help seanpr

rain cedar May 22, 2018, 7:49 AM

#

I'm doing something similar in randomizer

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 7:49 AM

#

im mildly mad about throwing about 300 lines of junk fsm code away

#

but it was junk code

rain cedar May 22, 2018, 7:49 AM

#

The stored data isn't exactly the data I use

#

I do parsing before/after save

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 8:19 AM

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Alright. This version fixes the major bug I was having with notch cost. I think it's good enough. Everything I've tested works. It doesn't mess up your save file which is nice. And it doesn't affect people without level 4 grimmchild.

📎 API_Grimmchild_Upgrades.zip

#

It DOES NOT require monomod hooks, or shouldn't require those. Nothing in my code is using them.

#

It does require modcommon and Mod API

#

just like my last mod

hardy echo May 22, 2018, 10:15 AM

#

By the way... how many of these mods require partially?

rain cedar May 22, 2018, 10:28 AM

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None

#

We don't use that

solemn rivet May 22, 2018, 12:38 PM

#

@river tiger wut

scenic slate May 22, 2018, 12:50 PM

#

Make bugborne mod, k thx bye

solemn rivet May 22, 2018, 1:36 PM

#

Radiance is basically bug-moon presence tho

lucid pond May 22, 2018, 2:00 PM

#

[INFO]:[RandomizerMod] - Putting progression item hasAcidArmour at SlyKey

#

Does it mean that I have Isma's tear at Shopkepper's key?

solemn rivet May 22, 2018, 2:14 PM

#

I guess?

lucid pond May 22, 2018, 2:15 PM

#

📎 QQ20180522221532.png

exotic venture May 22, 2018, 2:17 PM

#

those are excellent item descriptions

#

i wonder what else is in it

solemn rivet May 22, 2018, 2:17 PM

#

\n\n

lucid pond May 22, 2018, 2:18 PM

#

I can't find isma's tear anywhere

solemn rivet May 22, 2018, 2:18 PM

#

did you check the shopkeeper's key location?

lucid pond May 22, 2018, 2:19 PM

#

I have get it then i talk to him. but nothing adds in the shop

#

📎 20180522.png

#

the seed

solemn rivet May 22, 2018, 2:20 PM

#

I mean

#

go to where you would normally find the key

#

Isma's should be there

lucid pond May 22, 2018, 2:22 PM

#

OK I will try again.

#

📎 1.png

exotic venture May 22, 2018, 2:24 PM

#

check with sly again

#

see if after you give shopkeeper's key sly sells it

young walrus May 22, 2018, 2:25 PM

#

omfg why do you have mag skips on

solemn rivet May 22, 2018, 2:25 PM

#

wut

#

oh shit, I just saw that

#

rip

young walrus May 22, 2018, 2:26 PM

#

mag skips includes ridiculous shit that's not really RTA friendly

#

basically TAS only skips

solemn rivet May 22, 2018, 2:26 PM

#

but he's using debug so that's a non-issue

#

just noclip everywhere

young walrus May 22, 2018, 2:26 PM

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well that ruins the fun

lucid pond May 22, 2018, 2:26 PM

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to get the dreamnail needs to use mag skips at Unn's lake

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so I want to find isma's tear

solemn rivet May 22, 2018, 2:27 PM

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yeah, but that's like the easiest of them all

young walrus May 22, 2018, 2:27 PM

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^

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have fun getting to isma's tear location with no super dash

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or getting the thorns location with only fireball

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sheesh. that option is a meme.

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i think it might be in the logic too to get to monomon with only wings, shade cloak, claw, and sharp shadow

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that one's not terrible. but that's the kind of thing you're dealing with here

lucid pond May 22, 2018, 2:32 PM

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📎 1.png

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📎 2.png

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📎 3.png

solemn rivet May 22, 2018, 2:33 PM

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rip

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do you need isma's rn?

flat forum May 22, 2018, 2:33 PM

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So, some Boss Respawns I've noticed are broken on Debug Mod, including
Broken Vessel
Traitor Lord
(sometimes?) False Knight
Brooding Mawlek
Watcher Knights

lucid pond May 22, 2018, 2:34 PM

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I just want to know why I can't find Isma's tear

young walrus May 22, 2018, 2:35 PM

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Did you read the most recent randomization?

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Or did you read an old one

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And debug hasn't been updated for lifeblood

solemn rivet May 22, 2018, 2:35 PM

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well, Isma's sure is somewhere

young walrus May 22, 2018, 2:36 PM

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Probably at elegy

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zote

flat forum May 22, 2018, 2:36 PM

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Well

solemn rivet May 22, 2018, 2:36 PM

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zote

flat forum May 22, 2018, 2:36 PM

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Traitor Lord and Brooding Mawlker were broken from before that

young walrus May 22, 2018, 2:36 PM

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Cool. Then they don't work. shrugs

lucid pond May 22, 2018, 2:36 PM

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can someone play the seed 20180522

young walrus May 22, 2018, 2:36 PM

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Sean's not going to fix those tbh

flat forum May 22, 2018, 2:36 PM

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Ok

solemn rivet May 22, 2018, 2:36 PM

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they are special enemies, makes sense they wouldn't work

young walrus May 22, 2018, 2:37 PM

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So.... Either you can, or just deal with it I guess

flat forum May 22, 2018, 2:37 PM

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But most bosses respawn?

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Brooding Mawlek gives the mask shard

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this one is understadаble

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but why Traitor Lord?

young walrus May 22, 2018, 2:37 PM

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Cloth quest

solemn rivet May 22, 2018, 2:37 PM

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^

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he finnicky

flat forum May 22, 2018, 2:38 PM

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Oh

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yeah

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Ok

young walrus May 22, 2018, 2:38 PM

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And watcher knights absolutely respawn. Cuz I've used debug on older patches too practice them. As have many other runners. Unless again.... You're trying to use an old mod on lifeblood

flat forum May 22, 2018, 2:39 PM

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Yeah, that must be from Lifeblood

young walrus May 22, 2018, 2:39 PM

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Well they added the new room

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Not surprised that broke the respawn

solemn rivet May 22, 2018, 2:39 PM

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I just realized my enemyhpbarsmod might not work for hive knight

young walrus May 22, 2018, 2:40 PM

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Meme boss anyways. zote

exotic venture May 22, 2018, 2:40 PM

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memeblood

solemn rivet May 22, 2018, 2:40 PM

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brb gotta check

lucid pond May 22, 2018, 2:48 PM

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I finished the seed then I sought everywhere,, but I could't get isma's tear. So I read the modlog.txt. [RandomizerMod] - Putting progression item hasAcidArmour at SlyKey milliS

solemn rivet May 22, 2018, 2:54 PM

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it's probably at some random charm

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also, fixed hpbars

solemn rivet May 22, 2018, 3:43 PM

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Vmi I have some free time. Gonna see if I can find Isma's

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where did you already check, so I don't waste time checking places where we know it isn't at?

young walrus May 22, 2018, 3:43 PM

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Just read the modlog

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I still wonder if they didn't read an older randomization

lucid pond May 22, 2018, 3:55 PM

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thanks! you can load the seed 20180522,then read the modlog and check. HK 1315,randommid mod 2a7.I'm going to sleep.it's 23:54 in China.

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:hollowclap:

solemn rivet May 22, 2018, 3:57 PM

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elderbug gnight!

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it says the same for me

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Isma's at Sly Key

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lemme check there rq

young walrus May 22, 2018, 4:02 PM

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So the keys are randomized now in v2?

solemn rivet May 22, 2018, 4:05 PM

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they should

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but sly's key was at its usual spot

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and no Isma's either there or in the shop

young walrus May 22, 2018, 4:06 PM

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So the keys may not have been randomized correctly

solemn rivet May 22, 2018, 4:06 PM

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also, just to be sure it was rando'ing properly, I picked up fotf and it was wraiths

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yeah, that's my best guess, Mick

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lemme see where sly's key is supposed to be

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maybe we have 2 keys now

young walrus May 22, 2018, 4:06 PM

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yells out in despair

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SEAN

solemn rivet May 22, 2018, 4:07 PM

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well

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📎 unknown.png

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[INFO]:[DebugMod] - Loaded image: SlyKey

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[INFO]:[RandomizerMod] - Putting progression item hasAcidArmour at SlyKey

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so, yeah, rip

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isma's isded

young walrus May 22, 2018, 4:12 PM

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Lol. Nice

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Ismas deleted. Too stronk

rain cedar May 22, 2018, 8:53 PM

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SlyKey means it's in the shop after you get the key

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Or at least it should mean that

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If it just means it doesn't exist that's a pretty big bug

solemn rivet May 22, 2018, 8:59 PM

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It wasn't in the store even after getting the key

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And the key was where it always is

rain cedar May 22, 2018, 9:01 PM

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Alright

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 9:02 PM

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huh so it's possible to be unable to open the gate to the waterways

rain cedar May 22, 2018, 9:02 PM

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Which gate?

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 9:02 PM

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the one in CoT

rain cedar May 22, 2018, 9:02 PM

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Oh to the waterways

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I read that as after

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You mean in randomizer or something else?

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Because if it's randomizer then yeah I know people wasting keys could be an issue but I don't consider it high priority to fix

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 9:04 PM

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so randomizer requires a specific route then to ensure you can get everywhere

rain cedar May 22, 2018, 9:04 PM

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It requires you to not use keys on jiji or the banker place sometimes

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Which are both completely worthless areas

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 9:05 PM

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I get that they're worthless but it means you can softlock yourself out of 107%

rain cedar May 22, 2018, 9:05 PM

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The alternative is making fluke/crest require being able to reach all keys

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Which is lame

young walrus May 22, 2018, 9:06 PM

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doing 107% in rando?

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thinkgrub

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 9:06 PM

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at least have the oblivion message pop up

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err

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morrowind

rain cedar May 22, 2018, 9:06 PM

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I don't know what that is

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 9:07 PM

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https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/elderscrolls/images/1/1b/EssentialCharacterKilledMorrowind.png/revision/latest?cb=20120902031445

rain cedar May 22, 2018, 9:08 PM

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Maybe

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Also the only difference between the normal sly items and the key ones is this

requiredPlayerDataBool = shopName == "SlyKey" ? "hasSlyKey" : ""```

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So idk how that would not work

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Unless Team Cherry's shops just don't work

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Which is actually not out of the question

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 9:09 PM

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assuming team cherry's shops work

rain cedar May 22, 2018, 9:10 PM

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I know that the removal bool works since leg eater works

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required bool might do nothing though, since for sly they don't use it

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They use another worse method for his key

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Alright well fuck it I'm just gonna make the removal bool "!hasSlyKey" and change the bool override to parse !

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 9:12 PM

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good luck! I'm taking a break from modding tbh.

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 9:13 PM

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:ech:

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 9:14 PM

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you're welcome 56

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 9:14 PM

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🤔

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 9:14 PM

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btw I don't think I used a single line from your machine gun grimm thing.

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even though I forked it

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hope you're not too upset about it

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 9:16 PM

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idc

rain cedar May 22, 2018, 9:20 PM

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Alright

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I know why the sly shop doesn't work

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It's because I'm dumb

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hasSlyKey is false after you give sly the key

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Which means it's actually impossible to ever open the shop with it

solemn rivet May 22, 2018, 9:24 PM

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Wait, so sly key isn't randomized?

rain cedar May 22, 2018, 9:24 PM

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The key isn't

solemn rivet May 22, 2018, 9:25 PM

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Oh gotcha

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I thought keys were rando

rain cedar May 22, 2018, 9:25 PM

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Nah not yet

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I'm fixing the \n\n in shops and adding these to language strings too

<entry sheet="Prompts" key="BATH_HOUSE_KEY">This key may be required to enter waterways. Think hard before opening!</entry>```

solemn rivet May 22, 2018, 9:26 PM

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Nice

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 9:26 PM

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thanks

rain cedar May 22, 2018, 9:30 PM

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Alright tear is showing up in the shop

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Just had to change one letter

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Wait that's not one letter

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hasSlyKey -> gaveSlyKey

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@lucid pond I've uploaded a new randomizer that fixes the issue you had with Sly's shop

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It will not take effect on old saves, so your previous run will still be locked out of isma's tear

quick shoal May 22, 2018, 10:38 PM

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Hi! I'm new to the server and after completing the game (100% on Steam) I got this video on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N3f1z3zjsM

YouTube

Verulean

balanced game

And that wraps up the broken bonfire mod playthrough!

▶ Play video

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I was amazed by this mod and also didn't even know there were mods for this game

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Anyone could help me a bit with how to get mods into the game? Any help is apreciated, thank you all. omggrub

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 10:43 PM

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📌

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just download an installer

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check the boxes for the mods you want installed

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and open the game

quick shoal May 22, 2018, 10:44 PM

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Where I can get the installer?

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 10:44 PM

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📌

quick shoal May 22, 2018, 10:44 PM

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?

copper nacelle May 22, 2018, 10:44 PM

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📎 DeepinScreenshot_select-area_20180522144424.png

quick shoal May 22, 2018, 10:44 PM

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Oooh I'm stupid

opaque flame May 22, 2018, 10:45 PM

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lel

lucid pond May 22, 2018, 11:39 PM

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😆

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 11:45 PM

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seeking suggestions for mods

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y'all want anything (ideally not anything too hard)

rain cedar May 22, 2018, 11:45 PM

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What happened to taking a break from modding?

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 11:45 PM

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break's over

rain cedar May 22, 2018, 11:45 PM

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That was fast

compact sedge May 22, 2018, 11:46 PM

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nah but I'm not starting anything new until next week but I want to collect suggestions in the meantime

lucid pond May 22, 2018, 11:47 PM

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@rain cedar Great! Thank you!

young walrus May 22, 2018, 11:57 PM

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"Mick Knight mod" : all in game sounds replaced by sound files made by Mick's voice

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hollowdab

lucid pond May 23, 2018, 12:02 AM

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@rain cedar when you are going to get the dreamnail. If you fall down,you will not be flashed after you get the dreamnail. Then you have to quit to the menu and load the save. so you have to go to the resting grouds twice.

compact sedge May 23, 2018, 12:02 AM

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how many samples of your voice are there anyway @young walrus

lucid pond May 23, 2018, 12:02 AM

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randomizer mod 2.0

rain cedar May 23, 2018, 12:02 AM

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I don't get what you mean by "you will not be flashed"

lucid pond May 23, 2018, 12:03 AM

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after you get the dreamnail, you willnot leave the dream

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😂

compact sedge May 23, 2018, 12:03 AM

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what about you enter the dream and there's no dream nail

young walrus May 23, 2018, 12:03 AM

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Well... None right now. But I can record a bunch no problem

compact sedge May 23, 2018, 12:04 AM

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that'd be a good mod

hollow pier May 23, 2018, 12:04 AM

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boop impression

rain cedar May 23, 2018, 12:04 AM

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Ok so if you fall what happens?

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Is the moth there at the end?

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Or is it a shiny item there that you just pick up?

young walrus May 23, 2018, 12:04 AM

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Would take me a few hours tops to record all of em

hollow pier May 23, 2018, 12:04 AM

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make a cover of every soundtrack

young walrus May 23, 2018, 12:04 AM

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Lol

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Omg

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That.... Would take a bit longer

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But would be hilarious

lucid pond May 23, 2018, 12:06 AM

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You can pick up a shiny item, but you will not leave from the dream. Other thing, if you don't fall down in the dream ,you will be transfered to the door of the moth.

rain cedar May 23, 2018, 12:06 AM

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Is it the regular looking shiny item or is it the special dream nail one?

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If it's the former I don't know what's wrong, if it's the latter then falling must reload the room instead of just putting you back at the start

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Which is just awful

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Ok seems to be the former

lucid pond May 23, 2018, 12:16 AM

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shiny item.

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I‘m sorry I can't express my meaning clearly.

rain cedar May 23, 2018, 12:18 AM

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That's fine

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Your english is a lot better than my chinese

lucid pond May 23, 2018, 12:22 AM

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😂 It's a long time that I haven't chatted (with others) in English.

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so don't fall down when you go to get the dreamnail. That's OK. mylajoy

rain cedar May 23, 2018, 12:28 AM

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Nah I'm trying to fix it

lucid pond May 23, 2018, 12:29 AM

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wonderful! I am looking forward to it

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mylajoy

rain cedar May 23, 2018, 1:38 AM

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Ok I fixed that as well as another issue people had reported with getting dream nail before going to resting grounds

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Hopefully I didn't break anything else

copper nacelle May 23, 2018, 1:39 AM

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happygrub

rain cedar May 23, 2018, 1:39 AM

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In case anyone is wondering this is the fix for activeSceneChanged being too late https://github.com/seanpr96/HollowKnight.RandomizerMod/blob/master/RandomizerMod2.0/RandomizerMod.cs#L353

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The SceneHasPreload function is here https://github.com/seanpr96/HollowKnight.RandomizerMod/blob/master/RandomizerMod2.0/RandomizerMod.cs#L1061

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I guess it's less of a fix than a workaround but eh

rain cedar May 23, 2018, 2:44 AM

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Ok not good my game got stuck on the black screen going down from watchers

rain cedar May 23, 2018, 3:07 AM

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Is there a way to stop coroutines without a reference to the IEnumerator used to start it?

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I need to kill a coroutine running in GameManager

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Hm, the MonoBehaviour docs say StopCoroutine "Stops the first coroutine named methodName, or the coroutine stored in routine running on this behaviour."

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So, in theory, passing the function name would work

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It also says not to mix the methods, though

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Like only stop with a string if you start with one

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I think I can make the coroutine get an NRE, which would stop it

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Don't think I have a better option

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Nevermind this isn't gonna work

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Fixed the soft lock, new version up (again)

lucid pond May 23, 2018, 4:44 AM

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mylajoy the new randomizer mod2.0 has no problem. omggrub Nice!

pearl sentinel May 23, 2018, 5:09 AM

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you could probably call StopAllCoroutines on the monobehavior containing the coroutine

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tho if there's others on the monobehavior it'll stop those coroutines too

rain cedar May 23, 2018, 5:16 AM

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Stopping all coroutines on GameManager is probably not a good idea

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But I can try it just to see what breaks later

compact sedge May 23, 2018, 5:22 AM

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stop all coroutines and just write your own game

pearl sentinel May 23, 2018, 5:23 AM

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While writing some code for my smart routines type I noticed that the coroutines seem to become nested types inside their object. You might be able to get at them through some reflection shinangans

rain cedar May 23, 2018, 5:23 AM

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It's really not worth the hassle

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I just waited for it to stop itself instead and it doesn't cause any noticeable delay

lucid pond May 23, 2018, 9:45 AM

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I will try to play new seed

📎 1.png

rain cedar May 23, 2018, 9:47 AM

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Just so you know, the lemm option under quality of life does the same thing as the ten egg mod

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I don't think you'll get double geo with both of those on or anything but it's still redundant

exotic venture May 23, 2018, 9:48 AM

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ten egg mod?

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i need more information about this

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it sounds fantastic

rain cedar May 23, 2018, 9:49 AM

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Makes it sell all relics to lemm when you talk to him on the right side

exotic venture May 23, 2018, 9:49 AM

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ok that's dope

lucid pond May 23, 2018, 10:24 AM

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📎 3.png

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game over!

exotic venture May 23, 2018, 10:28 AM

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gg

lucid pond May 23, 2018, 10:32 AM

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that's false! eazy level is different fron hard level

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but hard level and maglar level are same

exotic venture May 23, 2018, 10:33 AM

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easy levels are indeed different

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they require much, much less skips

lucid pond May 23, 2018, 10:36 AM

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I make a mistake，I haven‘t find dreamnail！

rain cedar May 23, 2018, 10:37 AM

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It's pretty likely that hard/mag will be the same yeah

lucid pond May 23, 2018, 10:37 AM

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😂 I will play again

rain cedar May 23, 2018, 10:37 AM

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Since there's almost no difference in requirements for items

exotic venture May 23, 2018, 10:37 AM

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oh yeah you are missing dreamnail

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rip

rain cedar May 23, 2018, 10:38 AM

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Dream nail is actually weighted fairly heavily towards late locations so it makes sense to be the last item

exotic venture May 23, 2018, 10:39 AM

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it's basically just the thing to finish the game with

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the rest is all for getting around the place

sharp garnet May 23, 2018, 10:42 AM

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what about make a glitched mode in v2

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the glitched logic would be fun

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oh current patch killed most of the glitches

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it has to be on the old one for earlier patch

lucid pond May 23, 2018, 11:17 AM

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finish

📎 1.png

lucid pond May 23, 2018, 11:41 AM

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Finish the seed

📎 HK.png

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I don’t find any question about Randomizer mod2.0 after you update it.

steep sail May 23, 2018, 12:05 PM

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Can debug mod give access to cut content?

flat forum May 23, 2018, 12:59 PM

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Don't think so

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has the Mantis Gods been updated?

compact sedge May 23, 2018, 3:45 PM

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the question everyone is asking themselves

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no

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we're mostly just waiting for death barriers on the sides and a working entrance instead of needing dreamnail... maybe other stuff idk what 56 is trying to do with it now.

torn fulcrum May 23, 2018, 6:05 PM

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O no, howling wraiths is missing, it isn't even the only missing/glitchy thing I've encountered in randomizer

📎 unknown.png

rain cedar May 23, 2018, 6:12 PM

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What version are you on?

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@torn fulcrum

young walrus May 23, 2018, 6:13 PM

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wasn't it hidden to the right behind some bushes on the ground in older versions?

rain cedar May 23, 2018, 6:13 PM

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That's why I'm asking, yeah

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Although why they would be on that old of a version is beyond me

torn fulcrum May 23, 2018, 6:14 PM

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I have the most recent version of both the game and mod

rain cedar May 23, 2018, 6:14 PM

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Send your log file, then

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ModLog.txt in the save folder

torn fulcrum May 23, 2018, 6:18 PM

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hold on where exactly do I find it?

rain cedar May 23, 2018, 6:19 PM

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%APPDATA%\..\LocalLow\Team Cherry\Hollow Knight\

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Or not

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I guess I'll just assume they did something wrong since everything is fine for me and vmi

torn fulcrum May 23, 2018, 6:45 PM

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Sorry computer was slow so I did other stuff while it was loading, I got it now

rain cedar May 23, 2018, 6:48 PM

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You expect me to believe your computer is so slow it takes 30 minutes to open a small text file?

torn fulcrum May 23, 2018, 6:49 PM

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I was looking for the file and the search took time to load, then I forgot about it for a little bit

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But here it is

📎 ModLog.txt

rain cedar May 23, 2018, 6:52 PM

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Have you relaunched the game since the issues?

torn fulcrum May 23, 2018, 6:52 PM

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yes

rain cedar May 23, 2018, 6:53 PM

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That overwrites the log file, so I can't really help here

torn fulcrum May 23, 2018, 6:53 PM

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oh, alright

rain cedar May 23, 2018, 6:57 PM

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If you send your save file I can test it myself later today

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Actually just send a screenshot of the main menu, I have a feeling I know what's wrong

compact sedge May 23, 2018, 7:35 PM

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Hey does blackmoth work on lifeblood?

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or do I have to downpatch for it

rain cedar May 23, 2018, 7:53 PM

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I think it does

copper nacelle May 23, 2018, 7:53 PM

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it does

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@flat forum I'll probably update it today

flat forum May 23, 2018, 7:54 PM

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Ok

cyan peak May 23, 2018, 8:11 PM

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Where would I look for the damage of nails?

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in the Assembly?

copper nacelle May 23, 2018, 8:16 PM

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it's 5, 9, 13, 17, 21

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5 + 4 * nailSmithUpgrades

cyan peak May 23, 2018, 8:17 PM

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Alrighty

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which class?

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Also noob question incoming: Where do I find the nailsmith?

copper nacelle May 23, 2018, 8:20 PM

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nailSmithUpgrades is in PlayerData

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CoT

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left

cyan peak May 23, 2018, 8:21 PM

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Ah thanks

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Also where is the save file?

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found it

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AAAAND to heck with editing this

fair rampart May 23, 2018, 8:31 PM

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@cyan peak PLAY THE GAME BEFORE EDITING IT YOU BUTT

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:L

cyan peak May 23, 2018, 8:32 PM

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Ah screw off you did the same to Rain World

fair rampart May 23, 2018, 8:32 PM

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Yeah but that was because I had to show you guys how Partiality worked,

cyan peak May 23, 2018, 8:32 PM

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sure sure

fair rampart May 23, 2018, 8:32 PM

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And show you how ez mods where

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MHM.

copper nacelle May 23, 2018, 8:40 PM

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what Zandra said

cyan peak May 23, 2018, 8:47 PM

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fiiiiine

copper nacelle May 23, 2018, 8:48 PM

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yes

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happygrub

cyan peak May 23, 2018, 8:48 PM

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but, but

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I

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Rain World was the same for me

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find the game