#archived-modding-development | Hollow Knight | Page 93

compact sedge May 11, 2018, 9:19 PM

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The thing I've learned being in this server is basically everyone who plays mods is super good at the game

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so keep that in mind

unborn badger May 12, 2018, 12:22 AM

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@copper nacelle make grimmchild shoot so fast he lags the game

hollow pier May 12, 2018, 12:22 AM

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make it shoot geo too

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 12:24 AM

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re

wintry ore May 12, 2018, 12:30 AM

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Hmmm, so I'm following the tutorial so can install randomizer v2, yet i see no randomizer folder, did i do something wrong?

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i dont know if i should have posted this in #hk-help as it was mod related aa

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 12:31 AM

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images might be embedded now

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try without a folder and just see if it works

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I think they're embedded

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but idk

wintry ore May 12, 2018, 12:32 AM

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alright

rain cedar May 12, 2018, 12:36 AM

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Yeah everything is embedded

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Randomizer requirements are just a hardcoded array of structs now as well

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Parsing XML is a pain in the ass

wintry ore May 12, 2018, 12:40 AM

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obviously did something wrong, it said modding api randomizer mod in the top left, no randomizer graphic in the bottom right, no randomizer options when starting a save and i went to get fury of the fallen, and got fury of the fallen

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 12:41 AM

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you're on lifeblood, right?

wintry ore May 12, 2018, 12:41 AM

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yup

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 12:41 AM

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did you install modcommon

wintry ore May 12, 2018, 12:41 AM

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mm that could be why

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 12:41 AM

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'could be'

wintry ore May 12, 2018, 12:42 AM

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also love how hollow knight crashes every time i exit to the main menu

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been happening since i got lifeblood

rain cedar May 12, 2018, 12:42 AM

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Ah right I should add a thing that says to get it

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It tells you to update API if the version is below 41

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No modcommon warning other than the readme, though

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 12:43 AM

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you can make it not fail to load?

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doesn't it just entirely fail with assembly not found

rain cedar May 12, 2018, 12:43 AM

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The guy said it showed randomizer top left

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So yeah it loads

wintry ore May 12, 2018, 12:44 AM

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it did,

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but the mod did not work,

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 12:44 AM

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install modcommon

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dungo

wintry ore May 12, 2018, 12:44 AM

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i am

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modcommon installed,(probably incorrectly) nothing has changed

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 12:49 AM

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make a new save

wintry ore May 12, 2018, 12:49 AM

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i have, 3 times

warped sinew May 12, 2018, 12:50 AM

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Make another three, that's the trick

wintry ore May 12, 2018, 12:50 AM

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mm no

pearl sentinel May 12, 2018, 12:51 AM

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elderbug

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 12:52 AM

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elderbug

rain cedar May 12, 2018, 12:53 AM

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Good code here

bool noModCommon = !(from assembly in AppDomain.CurrentDomain.GetAssemblies() from type in assembly.GetTypes() where type.Namespace == "ModCommon" select type).Any();```

wintry ore May 12, 2018, 12:53 AM

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Could be that i incorrectly installed modcommon as it wasnt explained in the video, and i cant find it explained anywhere, and this is also the first game that ive had to actually go down into the files and edit them to add mods so aa

rain cedar May 12, 2018, 12:53 AM

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You don't have to do that, though

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There's installers

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 12:53 AM

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pins exist

rain cedar May 12, 2018, 12:54 AM

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Although I haven't updated the xml in the drive for rando so it's probably not gonna show in the installers

wintry ore May 12, 2018, 12:55 AM

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ah'

rain cedar May 12, 2018, 12:56 AM

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So I can't compile this against the assembly with the HookGen stuff in it since it apparently ups the .net version to 4.0

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That can't be good, since I imagine that 4.0 features will still not work

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 12:56 AM

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I'll try and fix that

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0x0ade said it shouldn't require 4.0 stuff

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I'll do it when I get home

rain cedar May 12, 2018, 12:57 AM

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Cool

wintry ore May 12, 2018, 12:57 AM

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Hmm, well then, what folder do i put the modcommon dll in?

rain cedar May 12, 2018, 12:58 AM

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Mods

wintry ore May 12, 2018, 12:58 AM

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yup thats where it is currently

rain cedar May 12, 2018, 12:58 AM

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Send modlog

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From your save folder

wintry ore May 12, 2018, 12:58 AM

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k

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📎 unknown.png

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📎 unknown.png

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 1:14 AM

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corny

rain cedar May 12, 2018, 1:15 AM

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Looks to me like it loaded fine

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And modcommon loaded

wintry ore May 12, 2018, 1:15 AM

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modcommon did,

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[INFO]:[RandomizerMod] - Unknown resource RandomizerMod.Resources.randomizer.xml

rain cedar May 12, 2018, 1:16 AM

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Yeah that's no problem, that file is unused

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I just forgot to remove it

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You've beaten the game, right?

wintry ore May 12, 2018, 1:17 AM

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hmm, it isnt randomizing any items, unless i just have incredible luck and keep getting fury of the fallen where its supposed to be, and i dont get any options to turn the randomizer on or off when starting the save, or changing the difficulty

rain cedar May 12, 2018, 1:17 AM

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Alright since you ignored the question I'm gonna assume no

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Beat the game

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Randomizer uses the classic/steel selection screen as the options menu

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So you need that to show up

wintry ore May 12, 2018, 1:18 AM

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ah, welp time to go to the hollow knight at only 61% but whatever

rain cedar May 12, 2018, 1:22 AM

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""""only"""" 61%

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 1:47 AM

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IG to get its most requested feature (still WIP but wanted to show it off)

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rain cedar May 12, 2018, 1:48 AM

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Nice

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 1:51 AM

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There's messages for a bunch of different damage tiers, including a special one for if you do more than 15k on hardcore mode.

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and now it doesn't overlap with the other bars

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rain cedar May 12, 2018, 2:07 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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There now hopefully people will use modcommon before saying shit's broke here

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 2:16 AM

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capible

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also nice

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 2:21 AM

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ooh gonna add that to mine

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About ready to release so I'm glad I saw this first

rain cedar May 12, 2018, 2:23 AM

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public override string GetVersion()
{
    string ver = "2a.6";
    int minAPI = 41;

    bool apiTooLow = Convert.ToInt32(ModHooks.Instance.ModVersion.Split('-')[1]) < minAPI;
    bool noModCommon = !(from assembly in AppDomain.CurrentDomain.GetAssemblies() from type in assembly.GetTypes() where type.Namespace == "ModCommon" select type).Any();

    if (apiTooLow && noModCommon) ver += " (Update API and install ModCommon)";
    else if (apiTooLow) ver += " (Update API)";
    else if (noModCommon) ver += " (Install ModCommon)";

    return ver;
}```

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If you want to steal anything from my version check go for it

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 2:30 AM

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awesome, thanks!

supple sigil May 12, 2018, 2:49 AM

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rain cedar May 12, 2018, 2:50 AM

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hollow pier May 12, 2018, 2:50 AM

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solemn rivet May 12, 2018, 2:56 AM

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I leave for ONE day

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and this channel goes to hell

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ffs

supple sigil May 12, 2018, 2:56 AM

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doot

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 3:07 AM

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https://github.com/natis1/infinitegrimm/releases/tag/0.2.8

GitHub

natis1/infinitegrimm

infinitegrimm - A Hollow Knight mod to make Grimm replayable in an endless, increasingly difficult battle.

rain cedar May 12, 2018, 3:07 AM

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Ok wow I think I need to chill with the yield return spam
[INFO]:[RandomizerMod] - Randomization done in 11.99255 seconds

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Too much of a good thing

solemn rivet May 12, 2018, 3:08 AM

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yeouch

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and I need to learn how to yield return

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 3:08 AM

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you should add: [INFO]:[RandomizerMod] - Running Update function in class: Classname.cs

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for every class

rain cedar May 12, 2018, 3:09 AM

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But my classes don't even have update functions

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 3:09 AM

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darn

rain cedar May 12, 2018, 3:09 AM

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Everything runs off of scene load

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 3:09 AM

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missed opportunity

rain cedar May 12, 2018, 3:10 AM

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for (int j = 0; j < currentDepth; j++)
{
    yield return new WaitForEndOfFrame();
    reachableLocations.Add(unobtainedLocations[i]);
}```

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This is the most unnecessary yield return I have ever seen

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 3:10 AM

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so it waits 1 frame for every depth level?

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I've never used yield return before

rain cedar May 12, 2018, 3:10 AM

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That's in a triply nested loop

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So it waits 1 frame a lot of times

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yield return new WaitForEndOfFrame(); is the same as yield return null;

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Just clearer intentions

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It flags a stopping point for the coroutine when calling MoveNext on it

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I had two loops like that, just gonna remove the yields and see how much faster it runs

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[INFO]:[RandomizerMod] - Randomization done in 1.67289 seconds

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Lol

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No performance difference

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 3:13 AM

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is there any side-effects to doing this?

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why did you have it this way

rain cedar May 12, 2018, 3:13 AM

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It runs less per frame so it's not noticeably laggy

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That's why

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 3:14 AM

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but it only runs at the start?

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So it just makes the loading screen take 1.7 seconds longer?

rain cedar May 12, 2018, 3:14 AM

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It just runs when you click the start button yeah

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No, this is asynchronous

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Ish

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 3:14 AM

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maybe you could just add a fake loading screen for 1.7 seconds to hide any lag if it really matters

rain cedar May 12, 2018, 3:15 AM

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Or just run it in tiny bits over a period of 1.7 seconds to hide lag

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AKA what I'm doing

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 3:15 AM

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well if it runs in tiny periods over 1.7 seconds how long would it take if it ran all at once?

rain cedar May 12, 2018, 3:16 AM

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Probably like half that

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Which is fine

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But you have to take into account worse computers here

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 3:16 AM

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spawn a separate thread?

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so the main game thread still runs in the background

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idk how to do that in c#

rain cedar May 12, 2018, 3:17 AM

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Coroutines are essentially Unity's way of faking threads

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 3:17 AM

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Unity doesn't have real threads?

rain cedar May 12, 2018, 3:17 AM

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Not on this version that I'm aware of

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You could probably start normal C# threading

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But there's no helpers for it

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 3:18 AM

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Well the C# standard library is pretty comprehensive

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 3:34 AM

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Anyway I'm interested in getting my mod into the google drive so more people can find it. If I make a zip that looks like all the other zips in there would you accept it?

rain cedar May 12, 2018, 3:35 AM

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Sure

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 3:56 AM

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I hope this works.

📎 infinitegrimm0.2.8.zip

rain cedar May 12, 2018, 4:02 AM

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Alright I put it on the drive

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 4:03 AM

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thanks :)

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 4:19 AM

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wow i love it when ilrepack doesn't let you target .net 3.5

rain cedar May 12, 2018, 4:21 AM

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To be fair .net 3.5 is 16 years old

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 4:21 AM

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ree

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yeah

rain cedar May 12, 2018, 4:21 AM

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Oh

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 4:22 AM

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that's odd

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why exclude that one version? .net 3.5 is pretty common.

rain cedar May 12, 2018, 4:22 AM

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Oh wait 3.5 is 7 years old

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Google gave me the initial .net release date when I looked it up for 3.5

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Thanks google

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 4:22 AM

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I remember a lot of people using it in windows 7

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 4:23 AM

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that's for ilmerge

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but ilrepack does the same thing

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rain cedar May 12, 2018, 4:23 AM

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Guess we can't use those

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 4:34 AM

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wtf

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it can do runtime .net 3.5

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you just can't make it do it

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cause when i merge it into assembly-csharp it keeps it at 3.5

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ree

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 4:35 AM

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so it does 3.5 by default and you use the target to set other versions?

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 4:35 AM

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I'd assume it does whatever assembly is the primary assembly's runtime

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gonna see if any of the mono dlls are 3.5

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cause I'm pretty sure merge order doesn't really matter in this case

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tf

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the hooks file is 3.5

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the main one

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uhh

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this is 3.5

📎 Hooks.dll

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idk why the other one was 4

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wait

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wtf

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other hooks was 3.5 too

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/327461802311155714/440967485899014144/unknown.png

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ah

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wait what

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idk why it wasn't working

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cause it just worked for me on .net 3.5

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and this has a ref to the old hooks

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this was working but it's just the old file i think

📎 Hooks.dll

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

pearl sentinel May 12, 2018, 6:02 AM

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Sean, any suggestions on what modcommon could provide for you to make your modding life easier?

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Going to bed, but will check responses in the am

floral furnace May 12, 2018, 6:08 AM

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main(){
HeroController hc;
}

HeroController{
private NailSlash slashComponent;
}

NailSlash{
private bool fury;
}

So i wanna change slashComponents attributes, so I tried using Reflection
but i cant just go:
NailSlash ns = HeroController.slashComponent;
because slashComponent is private,
so how do i place all of slashComponents property inside ns? (I tried using field info, well i am getting the info its just that i still cant access the values)

Do i use PropertyInfo class instead?

flat forum May 12, 2018, 6:20 AM

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What do ypu want to do with the nail?

floral furnace May 12, 2018, 6:21 AM

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just activate fury boolean, which should give me the fury of the fallen's red nail slash effect

flat forum May 12, 2018, 6:22 AM

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Mhm

floral furnace May 12, 2018, 6:23 AM

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FieldInfo field;
Type typeInfo = typeof(HeroController);
field = typeInfo.GetField("slashComponent",BindingFlags.NonPublic | BindingFlags.Instance);

I tried doing this and it seems to be correct
field.GetType(); returns a "NailSlash" which is correct

flat forum May 12, 2018, 6:24 AM

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Are you sure it's there?

floral furnace May 12, 2018, 6:24 AM

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but i want to get the values of slashComponent, and place them inside a new instance, named NailSlash ns, so i can change whatever i want with the ns.putmethodhereetcetc()

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yeah im sure its there

flat forum May 12, 2018, 6:26 AM

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Well I dunno, I can't help you here

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I'm not a modder

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Just

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Interested in this

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Sorry

floral furnace May 12, 2018, 6:29 AM

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well same tbh, i got most of the stuff in my mod working but saying "i still have a lot to learn" is a massive understatement

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 7:33 AM

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https://github.com/natis1/infinitegrimm/issues/25

GitHub

White screen after respawning after second time (and beyond) when ...

WTF
White screen is fixed by returning to main menu or redoing the fight.

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someone explain this to me.

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How can god be real if bugs like this exist. Checkmate christains

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how can satan not be real if bugs like this exist. Checkmate atheists

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 8:07 AM

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anyway I patched it.

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📎 API_Infinite_Grimm.zip

solemn rivet May 12, 2018, 11:09 AM

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@floral furnace there are a few bools you have to say to get the fury effect

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Iirc, you can check the bossrush source to see exactly what they are

floral furnace May 12, 2018, 11:11 AM

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ok ok thanks, ill go ahead and check boss rush's code

solemn rivet May 12, 2018, 11:41 AM

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Actually you can just manually set it, but I'm on mobile rn so can't send you the code

floral furnace May 12, 2018, 11:41 AM

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couldnt i just modify it straight? if it werent for the fact its private?

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or is there a hook with a nail.... slash object

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wait there is isnt there?

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no no wait im mistaken, sorry

solemn rivet May 12, 2018, 11:44 AM

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Well, it's actually controlled by an fsm

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I don't think the slashcomponent controls the fury effect

floral furnace May 12, 2018, 11:45 AM

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slashComponent is of type NailSlash, which has the boolean "fury", which i assume would be that one?

solemn rivet May 12, 2018, 11:46 AM

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Oh sure, what you have to do then is go into HeroController and find all fields of type Slashcomponent

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And then set their fury properties to true

floral furnace May 12, 2018, 11:47 AM

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oh wait so i have to do it for ALL the ones with NailSlash?

solemn rivet May 12, 2018, 11:48 AM

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Well, yeah

floral furnace May 12, 2018, 11:48 AM

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considering its slashComponent, slashUp, slashDown etc etc

solemn rivet May 12, 2018, 11:48 AM

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Yup

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Or

floral furnace May 12, 2018, 11:48 AM

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hmmm, i assumed slashComponent would be the one who handles everything

solemn rivet May 12, 2018, 11:49 AM

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You can just grab the fury fsm and send the "HERO DAMAGED" event

floral furnace May 12, 2018, 11:49 AM

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well i dont know anything about fsm so...., i heard you guys use a tool for that?

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to view fsms i mean

solemn rivet May 12, 2018, 11:50 AM

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You don't really need that for this, imo

floral furnace May 12, 2018, 11:50 AM

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Oh is that so, alright

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Any good mods for reference which should start me with this? all know right now is mostly using hooks

solemn rivet May 12, 2018, 11:50 AM

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Hmm

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Well, berserk has a lot of this

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But I still haven't pushed it

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You could always dnspy it tho

floral furnace May 12, 2018, 11:51 AM

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I was thinking lightbringer, but thats kinda outdated tho

solemn rivet May 12, 2018, 11:51 AM

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Lightbringer is different

floral furnace May 12, 2018, 11:53 AM

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alright ill try starting reading up on FSMs and how HK uses it, thanks again

solemn rivet May 12, 2018, 12:01 PM

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Sorry I can't be of much help today

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I'll be afk the whole day again

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sadgrub

floral furnace May 12, 2018, 12:04 PM

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np man, again huge thanks again for being responsive regardless

flat forum May 12, 2018, 12:19 PM

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Gradow is very nice and helpful

rain cedar May 12, 2018, 5:23 PM

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@floral furnace Gradow is wrong, you only need to worry about slashComponent. There are several NailSlash objects in HeroController, but slashComponent is a general purpose reference to the one that is currently being used

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@pearl sentinel A way to run/stop coroutines easily without having to handle a MonoBehaviour in the mod would be pretty nice

pearl sentinel May 12, 2018, 5:33 PM

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Oh, that's there

rain cedar May 12, 2018, 5:33 PM

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Shows what I know, then

pearl sentinel May 12, 2018, 5:34 PM

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Though it's probably a bit feature incomplete since I haven't had enough use cases

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But it's the Contractor class

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It's actually something I'll be refactoring into what I'm gonna call SmartRoutines within the next month, probably as part of a project at work

rain cedar May 12, 2018, 5:37 PM

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Cool

wintry ore May 12, 2018, 6:18 PM

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mm randomizer mod is working and i think this is a pretty good seed

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compact sedge May 12, 2018, 6:19 PM

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what's the advantage of getting dreamnail that early on

wintry ore May 12, 2018, 6:19 PM

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its the mantis claw really,

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 6:19 PM

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oh nice, question though what happens if you dreamnail enemies taht aren't supposed to be like hornet 1

wintry ore May 12, 2018, 6:20 PM

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but then again, collecting essence early on helps, and ill send you what i find!

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but im most definitely getting that mantis claw

rain cedar May 12, 2018, 6:42 PM

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Is that the most up to date version?

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Shouldn't be possible to see claw and dream nail in one shop

pearl sentinel May 12, 2018, 7:24 PM

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Maybe add randomizer version showing up during shop windows and when getting items?

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 7:24 PM

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Can't the user press escape and get the version?

rain cedar May 12, 2018, 7:26 PM

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Yes

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Just more convenient for me if it's shown more is all

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 7:27 PM

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replace all textures with the version number text

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 7:27 PM

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all the text too

leaden hedge May 12, 2018, 7:43 PM

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replace all integers in the binary, assembly-csharp and memory instantly after loading with the version number

rain cedar May 12, 2018, 7:43 PM

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But the version syntax I'm using has letters in it

leaden hedge May 12, 2018, 7:44 PM

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just do Int.Parse

rain cedar May 12, 2018, 7:44 PM

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Great idea

leaden hedge May 12, 2018, 7:46 PM

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i've got a better idea

int versionNumber = 0
foreach( char c in versionString ){
    versionNumber *= 256;
        versionNumber += (int) c;
}

rain cedar May 12, 2018, 7:48 PM

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I'm actually doing basically exactly that for something in the old randomizer

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https://github.com/MyEyes/RandomizerMod/blob/master/RandomizerMod/Randomizer.cs#L267

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Amazing code

leaden hedge May 12, 2018, 7:49 PM

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that is some quality code

rain cedar May 12, 2018, 7:49 PM

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Hey it works

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It gets a unique seed for every scene

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Probably

leaden hedge May 12, 2018, 7:51 PM

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i think sceneName_12 would be the same as sceneName_21

pearl sentinel May 12, 2018, 7:52 PM

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For enemy randomizer room mode I just did player seed + scene name string to hash for each scene

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 9:04 PM

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📎 unknown.png

fair rampart May 12, 2018, 9:39 PM

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heyo

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 9:40 PM

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there's only 1 balloon attack but there's 3 set balloon attacks

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 9:40 PM

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i meant like he does balloon thrice

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 9:40 PM

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they set a varaible to say that the balloon attack has been done

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also balloon 2 sets another one to change the scene

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to make it more firey and cool.

fair rampart May 12, 2018, 9:41 PM

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can i ask someone a question? if i install a mod, what will happen to my non-modded save file?

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 9:41 PM

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nothing unless the mod changes some vars

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 9:41 PM

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it'll still be there

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The mod could mess with the save but generally it shouldn't be a problem I don't think

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depends on the mod though

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 9:41 PM

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blackmoth 1 damage nail

fair rampart May 12, 2018, 9:41 PM

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the mod lightbringer, for instance?

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 9:42 PM

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yeah that would

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but also lifeblood

fair rampart May 12, 2018, 9:42 PM

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lifeblood?

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 9:43 PM

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lifeblood is hollow knight version 1.3 and up

fair rampart May 12, 2018, 9:43 PM

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so if i have that version, lightbringer is a bad idea

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 9:44 PM

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lifebringer doesn't work 1.3 and up

exotic venture May 12, 2018, 9:44 PM

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lightbringer is dead on lifeblood

fair rampart May 12, 2018, 9:44 PM

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oh

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well

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xd

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do you guys know any good mods that won't affect my save files?

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 9:51 PM

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infinitegrimm

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make sure to enable hard mode for big fun

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 9:53 PM

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I don't think mantis gods does either and that's pretty fun

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 9:53 PM

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reee no

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i'm buffing it rn

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 9:53 PM

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but if you've already fought them I don't think you can.

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 9:53 PM

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also adding rechallenge rn

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 9:53 PM

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ok

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 9:53 PM

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but yeah it doesn't change anything

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 9:53 PM

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fine I won't recommend your mod

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ugh

fair rampart May 12, 2018, 9:54 PM

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if i already beat nkg

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does the mod still work

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 9:55 PM

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then you can still do infinitegrimm

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yeah

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 9:55 PM

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you need to kill regular nkg to do the mod

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otherwise you wouldn't be able to get the 4th level grimmchild

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 9:55 PM

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wait nvm it's an fsm

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self-descriptive

fair rampart May 12, 2018, 9:55 PM

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@compact sedge i already did

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 9:56 PM

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then go play

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also enable hard mode or ban

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 9:56 PM

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(or be like me and don't)

fair rampart May 12, 2018, 9:56 PM

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xd

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 9:56 PM

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hard mode is fun reee

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 9:56 PM

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I can only get to like 3.5kish on hardmode

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 9:56 PM

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i can't beat mantis gods anymore

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please help

fair rampart May 12, 2018, 9:56 PM

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oh wait

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 9:56 PM

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my record for normal mode is 8.9k but that's with a bad loadout so I wanna try it again

fair rampart May 12, 2018, 9:56 PM

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infinitegrimm is literally infinite

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 9:56 PM

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big fun

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 9:56 PM

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yes

fair rampart May 12, 2018, 9:57 PM

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does he get increasingly hard?

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 9:57 PM

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yeah

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has a cap

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 9:57 PM

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sorta

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there's a speed cap but it's after like 12k on normal 8k on hardmode, but not a cap on the hits needed to stagger

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that goes up forever

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 9:57 PM

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neat

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hard mode vid: https://discordapp.com/assets/985ea67d2edab4424c62009886f12e44.svg

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wow i love it when discord copies the wrong thing

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 9:58 PM

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uh

fair rampart May 12, 2018, 9:58 PM

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i know i sound like a noob, but, what does stagger mean?

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 9:58 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/327461802311155714/444376827490992148/grimmfight.m4v

fair rampart May 12, 2018, 9:58 PM

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i still dont understand it

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 9:58 PM

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it's when it goes into the bats form

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 9:58 PM

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stagger is when he turns into a bat and flies around

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 9:58 PM

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and gives you time to heal

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on hardmode I think you can only heal during stagger

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even with unn

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(at least at the max speed)

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 9:59 PM

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yeah at max speed i don't think you could

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 9:59 PM

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that video is max speed btw

fair rampart May 12, 2018, 9:59 PM

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are you sure this wont ruin my save file?

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 9:59 PM

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I promise

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 9:59 PM

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it won't

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 9:59 PM

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if it does please report a bug

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 10:00 PM

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also backup first anyways imo

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having backups is always a good thing

fair rampart May 12, 2018, 10:00 PM

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how do i backup a hollow knight file?

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 10:00 PM

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and crossroads literally has a button to do it

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 10:00 PM

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just copy it

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 10:00 PM

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^

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 10:00 PM

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or if you're using crossroads click the backup saves button

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 10:00 PM

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is infinitegrimm in modlinks?

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 10:01 PM

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yes but not the absolute latest version and also it's not in the discord text post about it

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well it's in the drive at least

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 10:01 PM

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maybe i'm blind but i can't see it

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 10:03 PM

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📎 unknown.png

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 10:03 PM

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b o i

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that's not modlinks

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modlinks.xml is modlinks

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 10:04 PM

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oh you mean the xml

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 10:04 PM

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yeah

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 10:04 PM

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no its not there

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 10:04 PM

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that's what makes stuff show up in the installers

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 10:04 PM

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rip

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 10:04 PM

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i could add it rn if you want

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 10:04 PM

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while you're in the drive you could also update the mod zip?

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/327461802311155714/444772925191749632/API_Infinite_Grimm.zip

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this is the newest one

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(discord gets rid of brackets in file names sorry)

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 10:05 PM

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ok updated

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 10:05 PM

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thanks :)

fair rampart May 12, 2018, 10:07 PM

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is blackmoth good?

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 10:08 PM

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yeah

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make a new save tho

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 10:08 PM

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blackmoth is fun

fair rampart May 12, 2018, 10:08 PM

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i saw blackmoth changes title screen, so will that affect already existing saves?

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 10:08 PM

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no changing the title screen doesn't mean anything really

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will it affect existing saves

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I wouldn't risk it

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 10:09 PM

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yes

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it does

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iirc

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only if you load them tho

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so just make a new save and don't load old ones ez

fair rampart May 12, 2018, 10:09 PM

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ez except i tend to forget shit like that

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 10:09 PM

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just backup your saves big think

fair rampart May 12, 2018, 10:10 PM

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"backup game files" inside the properties of hollow knight inside steam, is that useful?

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 10:10 PM

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what

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backup %APPDATA%\..\LocalLow\Team Cherry\Hollow Knight\

fair rampart May 12, 2018, 10:10 PM

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yeah, thing is, i cant fucking find my game cause i saved it somewhere else

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 10:10 PM

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saves aren't moved

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when you move the game

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 10:11 PM

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and backing up game files does not back up any of your saves either

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like using the steam backup I mean

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 10:11 PM

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literally just zip the folder %APPDATA%\..\LocalLow\Team Cherry\Hollow Knight\

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amazing

fair rampart May 12, 2018, 10:12 PM

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inside there i have

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 10:12 PM

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user1.dat, user2.dat, user3.dat, user4.dat

fair rampart May 12, 2018, 10:12 PM

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user1.dat, user1.dat.bak

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 10:12 PM

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literally just copy paste the entire folder

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like go out of the folder into the team cherry folder

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 10:12 PM

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copy user1.dat or just copy paste the entire folder

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 10:12 PM

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and copy paste Hollow Knight

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ez

fair rampart May 12, 2018, 10:13 PM

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and what is that .bak thing?

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 10:13 PM

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save backup

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 10:13 PM

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it's a backup file made by the game itself

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but it's not a real backup

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don't rely on it for modding

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it's for if your save gets corrupted if your game crashes while saving or something

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or if you're a save scumming cheater in steel soul

fair rampart May 12, 2018, 10:14 PM

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i made a copy of the folder, if my real save file gets fucked, i rename the copy then?

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 10:14 PM

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yes you can just delete the Hollow Knight folder and rename that copy to Hollow Knight

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 10:14 PM

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^

fair rampart May 12, 2018, 10:14 PM

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huh

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thank you

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 10:25 PM

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@compact sedge added to modlinks

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 10:25 PM

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awesome!

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 10:25 PM

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so it's in the installers now

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happygrub

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 10:25 PM

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so uh kurokey your best bet is to use crossroads

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which is a program that is in the pinned messages

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and install any mods you want from that

floral furnace May 12, 2018, 10:26 PM

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📎 RageMeterMod1.zip

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dunno how unbalanced its gonna but i dont it should to too bad

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should still do the fury of the fallen nail effect tho

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 10:28 PM

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what's 3

floral furnace May 12, 2018, 10:29 PM

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uhh what 3

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unless youre talking to angle then disregard what i just said

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 10:29 PM

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finna 3

📎 unknown.png

floral furnace May 12, 2018, 10:29 PM

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oh yeah

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its the damage per hit

fair rampart May 12, 2018, 10:29 PM

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You know, the 3

floral furnace May 12, 2018, 10:29 PM

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should be that

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i should get rid of the debug imo

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 10:30 PM

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uhh

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the game crashed

floral furnace May 12, 2018, 10:30 PM

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lol what

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can you give me the cause or somethin?

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or are you just doing it with mantis gods

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 10:31 PM

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this is w/ mantis gods, qol, hooks, and rage mod

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wasn't crashing before tho

floral furnace May 12, 2018, 10:31 PM

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hmmm

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 10:31 PM

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i can double check if you want

floral furnace May 12, 2018, 10:31 PM

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yeah that would be great

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 10:31 PM

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idek what i was doing

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just walking through crossroads

floral furnace May 12, 2018, 10:32 PM

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weird, did a run from start to hornet, didnt seem to crash, but i should recheck it

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 10:32 PM

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does modcommon add any music?

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 10:33 PM

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no crash now

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do you take 2 damage while in rage mode?

floral furnace May 12, 2018, 10:34 PM

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yes

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also meter resets when you get hit

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 10:34 PM

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yeah noticed that

floral furnace May 12, 2018, 10:34 PM

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your attack speed should be very fast during it

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tho not sure if its excessive for now

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 10:34 PM

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title screen is very rage inducing

📎 unknown.png

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 10:34 PM

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ragemode + joni's blessing

floral furnace May 12, 2018, 10:35 PM

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should fix that

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 10:35 PM

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trynottolose challenge

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 10:35 PM

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can you sustain rage by attacking during it?

floral furnace May 12, 2018, 10:35 PM

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you get 5% increase yes

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 10:35 PM

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gonna try doing infinitegrimm with this

floral furnace May 12, 2018, 10:35 PM

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was suggested to me by gradow

fair rampart May 12, 2018, 10:35 PM

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im assuming mantis gods makes the mantis lords harder?

floral furnace May 12, 2018, 10:35 PM

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"harder" is an understatement

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 10:36 PM

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still buffing it more tbh

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dash was way too slow

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now it's pretty nice

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@compact sedge grimm gave me grimmchild after he told my how much damage i did

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and did the dialogue he does the first time i think

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 10:41 PM

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so he said 1600 damage?

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or some other number

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lol

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 10:42 PM

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yeah

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then he said

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well met my friend

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etc etc

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 10:42 PM

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also followup question is this after using the debug mod to refight grimm?

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 10:42 PM

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and gave me grimmchild

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no debug mod

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just infinite grimm and rage mod

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 10:42 PM

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welp I need to fix that thanks for telling me

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it shouldn't be tracking damage at all

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 10:43 PM

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?

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i thought the damage dialogue was a new thing

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 10:43 PM

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if you haven't killed nkg regularly to get the child then it shouldn't be tracking damage at all

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 10:43 PM

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i have

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this is the 107 save you provided

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i can make a vid real fast

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 10:44 PM

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ok thanks that'd be helpful

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I mean after you get respawned back it's supposed to give you the grimmchild but then the grimmchild is supposed to turn invisible and have all sound removed if you aren't supposed to have it so if that's not happening then it's a bug

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 10:52 PM

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ok made video

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uploading rn

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also grimm's first dialogue makes you stop moving kinda

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lets you do superdash storage i think

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 10:55 PM

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Yeah I think so https://github.com/natis1/infinitegrimm/issues/20

GitHub

Using superdash while talking to grimm can sometimes make characte...

I think this is actually a problem in the base game but I still wanna fix it on my end.

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 10:55 PM

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it doesn't stick you

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you keep superdash

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 10:55 PM

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oh wait

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ok

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weird

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 10:55 PM

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and you can like walk with it

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 10:55 PM

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lol

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 10:55 PM

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like rocket jump

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 10:55 PM

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nice

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 10:55 PM

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if you've seen that

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if you're holding right that is

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 10:56 PM

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I'll fix it

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 10:56 PM

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if you're not it just stops you mid cdash

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when he teles out

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 10:56 PM

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https://github.com/natis1/infinitegrimm/issues/26

GitHub

Superdash storage possible on Hardmode · Issue #26 · natis1/infi...

Because the game pauses you for one frame.

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ok

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thanks

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 10:56 PM

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like this https://clips.twitch.tv/AttractiveFunEagleNerfBlueBlaster but i don't know how to do the jump part

Twitch

Mickely Playing Hollow Knight - Twitch Clips

Any% WR Attempts - Going for sub 32 - Clipped by Mickely

▶ Play video

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 10:57 PM

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amazing

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not particularly useful in the tent but I'll fix it anyway

rain cedar May 12, 2018, 10:59 PM

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You can't do rocket jump on current patch

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 10:59 PM

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o

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sadgrub

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 11:00 PM

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but yeah send that video when it's done so I can add it to the issues list

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 11:01 PM

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2 min left on processing

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 11:04 PM

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thanks u tub

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 11:07 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzLzcj5ySfg&feature=youtu.be

YouTube

fiftysix

Infinite Grimm Test

weird dialogue at the beginning and superdash storage at the end really fun mod, you can find it on the hk discord discord.gg/hollowknight

▶ Play video

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 11:11 PM

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lolllll

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does it happen every timne

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 11:12 PM

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yeah

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if you cdash

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 11:12 PM

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oh

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did you have to do any inputs at the end or just at the start

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 11:13 PM

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i just held left

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while cdashing

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idk if it made a difference

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 11:13 PM

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no but I mean after you died

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 11:13 PM

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jump/attack

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to cycle through dialogue

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 11:14 PM

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ok so nothing special then

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tbh I don't quite know how storage works but I can try to patch it

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if it requires doing it to get the bug it's less big of an issue

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Here I thought you found some giant oversight that I missed

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but it's more like a small oversight that team cherry missed that affects my mod

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 11:17 PM

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the dialogue after you die?

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 11:18 PM

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the extra dialogue that only happens after doing storage

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it's a much smaller oversight than this for example:

📎 unknown.png

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I'll leave you to guess how to trigger this bug

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for extra hard mode

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(I just fixed it in 2 lines but it's still in the drive version)

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 11:20 PM

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die at the same time you hit grimm

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idk

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 11:20 PM

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no it's dumber and easier to trigger than that

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I just pushed the fix to github though

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and I'm gonna spend the next 30 minutes trying to fix storage

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and then I'll make a binary for you to try

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 11:21 PM

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wait

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lemme check if you have to do the cdash thing for the dialogue

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 11:22 PM

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probably but not promises

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 11:23 PM

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ok literally just walked over

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waiting for myself to die

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and dead

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lmao

📎 unknown.png

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same thing happens tho

📎 unknown.png

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 11:25 PM

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ok I'll add an issue

floral furnace May 12, 2018, 11:28 PM

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if i wanna check if the player quits to the main menu, am i gonna have to use MonoBehavior?

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 11:28 PM

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lol it only happens in hardmode

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 11:29 PM

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this is why you do hardmode

pulsar herald May 12, 2018, 11:29 PM

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#debugmod anyone?

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.....................no?...............ok

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 11:31 PM

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ok think I fixed it but I'm gonna test it first

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also 56 can you check if storage works on this particular binary

📎 infinitegrimm.dll

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because I'm not sure how to test that

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 11:33 PM

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cdash while in hard mode and hold right

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 11:33 PM

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ok

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 11:34 PM

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yeah it still happens

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the cdash thing

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 11:34 PM

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oh huh thanks

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that is a thing you can do with cdash

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well I fixed the other bug

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 11:36 PM

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you fixed the dialogue tho

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yea

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hollowknice

floral furnace May 12, 2018, 11:37 PM

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does herocontroller.instance get destroyed on exit to menu?

fair rampart May 12, 2018, 11:37 PM

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56 out of curiosity, what charms were you using?

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 11:39 PM

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soul eater, soul catcher, shaman, spell twister

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iirc

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 11:39 PM

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dank loadout, basically the opposite of what I run though

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I'm so bad with spells

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 11:40 PM

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i finally got the 3 hit down slash thing down during that fight

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hadn't done it before that fight

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and now i can do it like half the time

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 11:41 PM

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I fixed storage but now the knight looks stupid while dashing

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 11:41 PM

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imo storage isn't even a problem

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it's neat

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 11:41 PM

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📎 unknown.png

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 11:41 PM

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lmao

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 11:42 PM

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It's a needed fix though because without it your character gets paused

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which isn't good

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 11:42 PM

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hold right and continue walking for big meme

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i can update the file on the gdrive if you have a dll

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or a zip

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 11:43 PM

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let me compile a release and not debug build

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 11:43 PM

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haha compiling release

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absolutelynotmeirl

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 11:43 PM

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also idk should I fix the knight looking up?

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Wait does it even matter on C#? Like does it optimize it differently?

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 11:44 PM

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i don't think so

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 11:44 PM

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my binary is 3kb smaller if I build release

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 11:44 PM

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you can do like #if debug #endif and stuff tho

#

o

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 11:44 PM

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but weirdly it has debugging symbols on both builds

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like it builds a separate symbols file

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 11:45 PM

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Well, it depends on what language you are using, but in general they are 2 separate configurations, each with its own settings. By default, Debug includes debug information in the compiled files (allowing easy debugging) while Release usually has optimizations enabled.

As far as conditional compilation goes, they each define different symbols that can be checked in your program, but they are language-specific macros.

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from stackoverflow

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 11:45 PM

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uh but the debug information is in a separate file

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 11:45 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 11:45 PM

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I think vs 2017 might have changed something

fair rampart May 12, 2018, 11:47 PM

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wtf

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 11:47 PM

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?

fair rampart May 12, 2018, 11:47 PM

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spell build vs nkg

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 11:47 PM

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is nice

floral furnace May 12, 2018, 11:47 PM

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Nail or Nothing imo /s

fair rampart May 12, 2018, 11:47 PM

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i could barely get a blast on him

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 11:47 PM

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after dashing towards him with bats

fair rampart May 12, 2018, 11:47 PM

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even dive's i-frames still fucked me over

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 11:47 PM

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after pillars

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you can dive if you want when he does down slash thingy

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but i prefer to just get soul

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and if you dash away from the upslash you can hit him

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fluke him (rip fluke)

fair rampart May 12, 2018, 11:48 PM

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he's pretty much dead now, but i found mark of pride + strength + womb to work for me

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 11:48 PM

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i think you can shade soul too

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 11:50 PM

#

📎 API_Infinite_Grimm.zip

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stop deleting brackets discord

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 11:50 PM

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updated

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 11:52 PM

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thanks, it also fixes a super important issue where grimm's stats will stack if you exit to main menu and reopen it

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that was the super giant oversight

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 11:52 PM

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o

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i thought that

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but then i thought that couldn't be it

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 11:53 PM

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I had a check for a boolean I was supposed to set after loading the mod

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but I never actually set the boolean

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🤦

copper nacelle May 12, 2018, 11:53 PM

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amazing

compact sedge May 12, 2018, 11:54 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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wait a second

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shit I need to stop being so premature

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ok this is the final version I upload this week

📎 API_Infinite_Grimm.zip

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completely bug free

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or your money back

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0 bugs

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(keep telling yourself that, angle)

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 12:02 AM

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🤔

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and updated

compact sedge May 13, 2018, 12:04 AM

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sorry I'm gonna stop I'm making you do so much work for my own stupidity

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 12:04 AM

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it's fine

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only work is renaming the file

fair rampart May 13, 2018, 12:05 AM

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there's a boss rush mod?

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 12:05 AM

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doesn't work on lifeblood

compact sedge May 13, 2018, 12:05 AM

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yeah

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 12:05 AM

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won't be updated till gng

compact sedge May 13, 2018, 12:05 AM

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1.2 only

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 12:05 AM

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cause gng might have it's own boss rush

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and stuff

fair rampart May 13, 2018, 12:06 AM

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doubt it, but maybe

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and any dates for gng or nah?

compact sedge May 13, 2018, 12:06 AM

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early 2018

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 12:06 AM

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isn't that switch

compact sedge May 13, 2018, 12:06 AM

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hope that helps

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idk I don't ahve a switch

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Gods and Glory can be accessed at any point in your Hollow Knight journey. Prepare to ascend, Early 2018, free for all players!

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from the January 30th announcement

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maybe they're delaying it to remove all FSMs from the game

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 12:08 AM

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o

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iirc they said they were gonna use FSMs for enemy ai

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but that might've been lifeblood changes

compact sedge May 13, 2018, 12:08 AM

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they already do

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so

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 12:08 AM

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*keep using

compact sedge May 13, 2018, 12:09 AM

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well I guess that makes sense for them, and I've found modding enemy AI FSMs not the hardest thing in the world

fair rampart May 13, 2018, 12:09 AM

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so is gng gonna be a big expansion or something like grimm troupe

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 12:09 AM

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yeah

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biggest expansion

compact sedge May 13, 2018, 12:09 AM

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grimm troupe was a pretty big expansion

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it's not gonna be a small one like lifeblood

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 12:09 AM

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hornet dlc > gng > tgt > hidden dreams > lifeblood

fair rampart May 13, 2018, 12:09 AM

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it was, but i mean big as in much more than a couple bosses and a few quests

compact sedge May 13, 2018, 12:10 AM

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tgt is like 6 hours of content if you're as bad at platforming as I am

fair rampart May 13, 2018, 12:10 AM

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it was around 4 for me

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 12:10 AM

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PoP took me like 2

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nkg took me idk

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too long

fair rampart May 13, 2018, 12:11 AM

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but only cause i abused kingsoul to collect flames (i used blast to kill grimmkin)

compact sedge May 13, 2018, 12:11 AM

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they both took me about 2 hours plus an extra hour spent getting the flames

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so I'd say 5 hours for me

fair rampart May 13, 2018, 12:11 AM

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oof

compact sedge May 13, 2018, 12:11 AM

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also I died on grimm 1 and that's really lame because grimm 1 is really easy

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I felt really bad about it

fair rampart May 13, 2018, 12:11 AM

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troupe master grimm?

compact sedge May 13, 2018, 12:11 AM

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yeah

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just the regular one

fair rampart May 13, 2018, 12:12 AM

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i died too lol

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 12:12 AM

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i died a bunch to grimm1

fair rampart May 13, 2018, 12:12 AM

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he's not that easy

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 12:12 AM

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on the bright side i suck way less now

compact sedge May 13, 2018, 12:12 AM

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I'm really good at the NKG fight compared to every other fight

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but only because I've spent about 8 hours this week playing it

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 12:13 AM

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i'm pretty good at grimm i think

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after no hit hell mod and stuff

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kdt actual god at grimm

compact sedge May 13, 2018, 12:13 AM

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I'm still bad at NKG compared to you or everyone else on this channel but compared to every other fight I am really good at grimm

exotic venture May 13, 2018, 12:17 AM

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kdt actual god more like

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 12:17 AM

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darkroom nkg

exotic venture May 13, 2018, 12:17 AM

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probably could speedrun game on just audio cues

floral furnace May 13, 2018, 12:26 AM

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might as well rewrite this entire mod from scratch

compact sedge May 13, 2018, 12:26 AM

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rip

floral furnace May 13, 2018, 12:27 AM

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note to self: use components next time

compact sedge May 13, 2018, 12:27 AM

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I'm sure you can salvage parts of it at least... right??!

floral furnace May 13, 2018, 12:27 AM

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well it shouldnt take long at least

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since ill know what im doing from that point

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the ui stuff is the harder part tho

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plus the entire source is spaghetti anyway

compact sedge May 13, 2018, 12:28 AM

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just make a component class

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and copy the code into it

floral furnace May 13, 2018, 12:29 AM

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also you know how to check if the player goes to the menu?

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or does awake and/or initialize take care of that

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 12:29 AM

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wait

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no stop

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just add a component to the gamemanager

compact sedge May 13, 2018, 12:30 AM

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you add a function that does whatever you need to do when the player opens the menu and add that function to the modhooks.

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 12:30 AM

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and check if it exists

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actually could you just check if the gamemanager exists

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or move the ui display to a component and have it stop showing itself on destroy

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and leave the rest

floral furnace May 13, 2018, 12:32 AM

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yeah ill just try to recode it but with the ui stuff on the component

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 12:32 AM

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isn't that literally just copy pasting the ui stuff

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and leaving the rest

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or just copy pasting the entire thing into a componeent and having it unhook and stop displaying

floral furnace May 13, 2018, 12:34 AM

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should be like this right

class1 : monobehavior{
}
class2  : mod{
    initialize(){
       GameManager.instance.GameObject.AddComponent<class1>;
     }
}

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but the way i did the ui is trash

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like, no joke, its trash

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 12:35 AM

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yeah like that i think

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but you add to the gamemanager aftersavegameload and newgame i think

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or at least that's how I'm doing it

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if you wanna see

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https://github.com/5FiftySix6/Mantis-Gods/

GitHub

5FiftySix6/Mantis-Gods

Contribute to Mantis-Gods development by creating an account on GitHub.

floral furnace May 13, 2018, 12:35 AM

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basically i did it like this

if (!rageModActive && TransitionContainsWaiting())
                {
                    text.color = new Color(0.753f, 0.753f, 0.75f, 1f);
                    text.text = "RAGE : " + (int)rageBuildUpPercent + "%";
                }

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 12:36 AM

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753

floral furnace May 13, 2018, 12:37 AM

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its the silver color iirc, and wow i just noticed that

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~~oh ok if im understanding this correctly, GameManager is created and destroyed up loading the save file/exiting to main menu~~

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~~cuz earlier i tried doing the same for HeroController.instance, where i checked if it existed or not~~
well whatever im just gonna attempt redoing all of these when my finals arent trying to kill me

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 1:10 AM

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yeah you're right i think

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gl on the finals

compact sedge May 13, 2018, 2:06 AM

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my normal mode record. Gonna switch to hardmode and see if I can outdo 56 now.

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copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 2:06 AM

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wait no that was a bad fight

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reeeee

hollow pier May 13, 2018, 2:07 AM

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what is this mod

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 2:07 AM

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infinite grimm

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it's really fun

hollow pier May 13, 2018, 2:07 AM

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ax2u could get double that with nail-1 only

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 2:07 AM

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lmao

compact sedge May 13, 2018, 2:07 AM

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nice

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I'd believe it

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actually wait if normal NKG has 1600 hp and took 40 minutes to beat with nail -1

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this would take what, like 5 hours to reach?

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 2:09 AM

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less because of the stagger stuff

iron crown May 13, 2018, 2:09 AM

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Tbh hit Grimm until he gets bored and leaves

hollow pier May 13, 2018, 2:09 AM

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the true god run is darkmod + nail-1 only

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on ngg

compact sedge May 13, 2018, 2:09 AM

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by the time you get to 12000 damage it takes like 48 hits to stagger

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 2:10 AM

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wtf

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why is there a damage hero fsm

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a damage thing on the healthmanager

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a setherodamage thing

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and a damageshero thing

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what the fuck

floral furnace May 13, 2018, 2:11 AM

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outdated stuff that werent removed or...

compact sedge May 13, 2018, 2:11 AM

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tfw you get rid of an fsm to replace it with an object... containing 2 fsms

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 2:11 AM

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health manager is new tho

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and the add damage thing didn't work

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oh the apply extra damage thing

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literally just does damage to it

floral furnace May 13, 2018, 2:13 AM

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directly so

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instead of adding it to the nail

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 2:14 AM

#

📎 unknown.png

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you can use damageoverride to make everything do 1 damage

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big meme

floral furnace May 13, 2018, 2:14 AM

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i smell shitmodst 2

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 2:14 AM

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📎 unknown.png

compact sedge May 13, 2018, 2:15 AM

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use damageoverride to make every other attack heal you for whatever it was supposed to do in damage

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Wait what is SendEvent

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and how does it differ from SetState

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 2:16 AM

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setstate sets the state i'd assume

compact sedge May 13, 2018, 2:17 AM

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ok but what is an event

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 2:17 AM

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and event sends an event

compact sedge May 13, 2018, 2:17 AM

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are events the things that control transitions?

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like on FINISHED goto State X

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 2:17 AM

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idk about that

compact sedge May 13, 2018, 2:17 AM

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and FINISHED is the name of the event

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or on LANDING goto StartBossfight

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for when bosses make your character stop

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 2:18 AM

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i think so

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esp considering the stuff is called

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SendRandomEvent and such

rain cedar May 13, 2018, 2:18 AM

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Yeah that's what those are

compact sedge May 13, 2018, 2:18 AM

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thanks

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so does SendEvent do anything if your current state doesn't have a way to handle that event?

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but like other similar states do, just none you are currently in

rain cedar May 13, 2018, 2:19 AM

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Nah it won't do anything if it's invalid

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 2:19 AM

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should i make the mantis lord shots faster

rain cedar May 13, 2018, 2:19 AM

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Go for it

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 2:20 AM

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cool

hollow pier May 13, 2018, 2:20 AM

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wtf is this polishing a mod instead of making 2 more shitty mods smh my head

compact sedge May 13, 2018, 2:20 AM

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wait am I supposed to be making 2 more shitty mods

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 2:21 AM

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no i am

rain cedar May 13, 2018, 2:21 AM

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Shitmodst 3

compact sedge May 13, 2018, 2:21 AM

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ok good because I already ran out of ideas for mods

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I had one thing I wanted to do and I made it happen

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 2:21 AM

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buff nail arts

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why

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compact sedge May 13, 2018, 2:22 AM

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oh this is shitmodst

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 2:22 AM

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what

compact sedge May 13, 2018, 2:22 AM

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do *= 100

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 2:23 AM

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no this is mantis gods

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their shots

compact sedge May 13, 2018, 2:23 AM

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100 times faster

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 2:23 AM

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lmao

#

watch this throw a null ref

rain cedar May 13, 2018, 2:23 AM

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It would be interesting to see if the shots even followed the proper trajectory at that speed

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Especially at low fps

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 2:24 AM

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oh yeah

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why is the dash a nice component

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but nothing else

rain cedar May 13, 2018, 2:24 AM

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Mantis lords dash is a component?

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 2:25 AM

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it was a transform

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📎 unknown.png

rain cedar May 13, 2018, 2:25 AM

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I see

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Do GetComponentsInChildren<Transform>(true)

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See if any more attacks pop up

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Actually just look for DamageHero directly

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Makes more sense

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 2:28 AM

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ok

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[INFO]:[Mantis Gods]: Damage Hero: Hollow Shade(Clone)
[INFO]:[Mantis Gods]: Damage Hero: Mantis Flyer Child (1)
[INFO]:[Mantis Gods]: Damage Hero: Mantis Flyer Child
[INFO]:[Mantis Gods]: Damage Hero: Cave Spikes (7)
[INFO]:[Mantis Gods]: Damage Hero: Deep Spikes (1)
[INFO]:[Mantis Gods]: Damage Hero: Cave Spikes (2)
[INFO]:[Mantis Gods]: Damage Hero: Cave Spikes (12)
[INFO]:[Mantis Gods]: Damage Hero: Mantis (2)
[INFO]:[Mantis Gods]: Damage Hero: Head Box
[INFO]:[Mantis Gods]: Damage Hero: Cave Spikes (4)
[INFO]:[Mantis Gods]: Damage Hero: Cave Spikes
[INFO]:[Mantis Gods]: Damage Hero: Cave Spikes (10)
[INFO]:[Mantis Gods]: Damage Hero: Head Box
[INFO]:[Mantis Gods]: Damage Hero: Mantis Flyer Child (2)
[INFO]:[Mantis Gods]: Damage Hero: Cave Spikes (5)
[INFO]:[Mantis Gods]: Damage Hero: Deep Spikes (2)
[INFO]:[Mantis Gods]: Damage Hero: Deep Spikes (2)
[INFO]:[Mantis Gods]: Damage Hero: Deep Spikes (3)
[INFO]:[Mantis Gods]: Damage Hero: Cave Spikes (3)
[INFO]:[Mantis Gods]: Damage Hero: Cave Spikes (6)
[INFO]:[Mantis Gods]: Damage Hero: Deep Spikes
[INFO]:[Mantis Gods]: Damage Hero: Deep Spikes
[INFO]:[Mantis Gods]: Damage Hero: Cave Spikes (8)
[INFO]:[Mantis Gods]: Damage Hero: Mantis Flyer Child (3)
[INFO]:[Mantis Gods]: Damage Hero: Mantis
[INFO]:[Mantis Gods]: Damage Hero: Cave Spikes (1)
[INFO]:[Mantis Gods]: Damage Hero: Cave Spikes (9)
[INFO]:[Mantis Gods]: Damage Hero: Mantis (1)
[INFO]:[Mantis Gods]: Damage Hero: Cave Spikes (11)
[INFO]:[Mantis Gods]: Damage Hero: Head Box

rain cedar May 13, 2018, 2:30 AM

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Oh you're looking in the entire scene?

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Or is that all on the mantis lords?

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Some of that makes no sense to be on them

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 2:30 AM

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scene

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oh

#

wait

#

i misread that

#

i did lord.GetComponentsInChildren<DamageHero>

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and all i got was 2 of "Mantis Lord"

rain cedar May 13, 2018, 2:33 AM

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Sounds useful

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 2:33 AM

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yea

#

i was using that one already

#

kerr scene dump op

#

what's strange is that I haven't seen any component or object for the lance attack

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in the dump

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but it has an fsm

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idk what i did but something's broke

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they disappear into the abyss for a sec before attacking on second phase

#

wow i was right

#

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#

📎 unknown.png

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ok idk when i made the dash 2 damage

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but it's 2 damage

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works for me i guess

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wtf i had a weird thing where phase 2 lords would stay off screen for a year after doing an attack

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and it was caused by the nres

supple sigil May 13, 2018, 2:50 AM

#

.

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 2:50 AM

#

.

compact sedge May 13, 2018, 3:39 AM

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take that 56 I did hard mode.

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copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 3:39 AM

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ah

#

gonna try and beat that

#

brb

compact sedge May 13, 2018, 3:40 AM

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and I have the whole thing on video too

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 3:40 AM

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also log damage on hit when

compact sedge May 13, 2018, 3:40 AM

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every hit

flat forum May 13, 2018, 3:40 AM

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what's the text for 15k+ hard mode?

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 3:40 AM

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try and find out

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hollowdab

compact sedge May 13, 2018, 3:40 AM

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good luck

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 3:40 AM

#

~~or just check github~~

flat forum May 13, 2018, 3:40 AM

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I can't

compact sedge May 13, 2018, 3:40 AM

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I guess you could look at the code

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 3:40 AM

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why

flat forum May 13, 2018, 3:41 AM

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because I am not god himself

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nor some other deity

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 3:41 AM

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boi

#

try

flat forum May 13, 2018, 3:41 AM

#

iob

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 3:41 AM

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git gud

flat forum May 13, 2018, 3:41 AM

#

Ok .-.)

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 3:41 AM

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ok gonna try and get a decent score now

flat forum May 13, 2018, 3:41 AM

#

( ._.)b

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 3:41 AM

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gotta at least beat avenging

flat forum May 13, 2018, 3:42 AM

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you need 5k on hard mode

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 3:42 AM

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works for me

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i did like 3k when i was trying to abuse rage mode and instead took like 8 damage

flat forum May 13, 2018, 3:43 AM

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is it still activated when you edit something?

#

one of the files

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 3:45 AM

#

wdym

flat forum May 13, 2018, 3:46 AM

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I asked last time and AA said something like "go to XXX.json and edit HardMode=On"

compact sedge May 13, 2018, 3:46 AM

#

yeah

flat forum May 13, 2018, 3:46 AM

#

(not exactly that, but close enough)

compact sedge May 13, 2018, 3:46 AM

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you'll know it's enabled because grimm won't talk to you

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 3:46 AM

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uhh

#

wtf

#

scuseme

📎 unknown.png

compact sedge May 13, 2018, 3:46 AM

#

huh

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 3:47 AM

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oh infinitegrimm didn't install properly

#

closed the window right before it copied it

compact sedge May 13, 2018, 3:47 AM

#

rip

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 3:48 AM

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should i listen to nkg's music

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or some other random music

flat forum May 13, 2018, 3:48 AM

#

yes

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 3:48 AM

#

thanks very helpful

compact sedge May 13, 2018, 3:48 AM

#

listen to the original grimm ost

#

it's better

flat forum May 13, 2018, 3:49 AM

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find some brutal death metal

#

to help you stay calm during tough times

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 3:49 AM

#

was gonna listen to https://youtu.be/Ey3Bqog52rQ

compact sedge May 13, 2018, 3:50 AM

#

ok I'll listen to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J91Lo1wTR1A

YouTube

David Alejandro

Rings of saturn - The Macrocosm

▶ Play video

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 3:50 AM

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i had such a bad start that i killed myself

compact sedge May 13, 2018, 3:51 AM

#

that sucks

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 3:51 AM

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like on purpose

#

but it was like 1min anyway

#

so nbd

flat forum May 13, 2018, 3:52 AM

#

what did I have to edit where?

compact sedge May 13, 2018, 3:52 AM

#

if you're starting out you get more staggers so you can make a bigger comeback. Taking damage is a lot worse towards the end

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 3:52 AM

#

InfiniteGrimmMod.GlobalSettings.json

compact sedge May 13, 2018, 3:52 AM

#

located with your save files

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 3:52 AM

#

there's a boolvalues section

flat forum May 13, 2018, 3:52 AM

#

save files, not in the Steam Folder

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 3:52 AM

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yeah save files

#

in the boolvalues section

#

just change the false to true

#

if it's already true you're good

flat forum May 13, 2018, 3:52 AM

#

K

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 4:02 AM

#

wow big depresso

#

4306

#

bug maybe?

#

it shows that I have grimmchild after quitting out, changing charms, then going back into the tent

#

like he flies next to me

#

but I don't have the charm on

#

doesn't show inside the dream tho

#

and after dying it didn't show my damage

#

nor did it log it

compact sedge May 13, 2018, 4:07 AM

#

the mod is supposed to trick the game but it actually tricked itself

#

huh I'm seeing this

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 4:07 AM

#

lmao

compact sedge May 13, 2018, 4:07 AM

#

the lack of damage is because the mod crashed btw

#

because you didn't actually have grimmchild

#

well not crash

#

but you know

#

it segfaulted but segfaulting doesn't actually happen in unity for some reason

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 4:08 AM

#

o

compact sedge May 13, 2018, 4:08 AM

#

yeah

#

as soon as it's supposed to, it just stops executing whatever function you are in

#

To quote seanpr and KDT:

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#

and this is why because game engines have lots of failsafes

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 4:10 AM

#

makes sense

compact sedge May 13, 2018, 4:10 AM

#

anyway I'm looking into fixing it and also testing the scope/extent of the bug

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 4:11 AM

#

cool

compact sedge May 13, 2018, 4:18 AM

#

Ok I know the problem and fix. it's technically a regression caused by me fixing the mod loading multiple times every time you enter a game, but the fix is straightforward enough. Before I do anything I'm expecting weird behavior from exiting to main menu while in the grimm fight so I'm gonna test that first and probably have a patch out in the next hour or so.

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 4:18 AM

#

hollowknice

compact sedge May 13, 2018, 4:30 AM

#

nope no problems with the fight itself because I don't set any variables that matter there. just the tent

copper nacelle May 13, 2018, 4:31 AM

#

what about changing the speed tho

compact sedge May 13, 2018, 4:31 AM

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that's all set on scene load

#

the problem is I had stuff set on Init, but what I had set there got cleared

#

when I quit to main menu

#

for some reason