#archived-modding-development | Hollow Knight | Page 90

delicate ether May 6, 2018, 5:15 AM

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so if i held jump, the game would think i tapped it

leaden hedge May 6, 2018, 5:15 AM

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if hollow knight supports steam controller at all you can make any controller work

delicate ether May 6, 2018, 5:15 AM

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no held buttons would register

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except dpad

floral furnace May 6, 2018, 5:15 AM

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it doesnt?

leaden hedge May 6, 2018, 5:15 AM

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through steams controller configs

delicate ether May 6, 2018, 5:16 AM

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jhoy2key works

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the only functiuon i dont have is presing right joystick down to look down

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because that cant be bound to a keyboard button in game

compact sedge May 6, 2018, 5:22 AM

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Alright I have the first version I think probably works. It worked for me in testing. I just uploaded it to github if anyone with more skill wants to test it. Please make a backup of your saves first because I don't trust my own coding abilities at all. https://github.com/natis1/infinitegrimm

GitHub

natis1/infinitegrimm

infinitegrimm - A Hollow Knight mod to make Grimm replayable in an endless, increasingly difficult battle.

rain cedar May 6, 2018, 5:23 AM

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https://github.com/natis1/infinitegrimm/blob/master/infinitegrimm/InfiniteGrimm.cs#L44

copper nacelle May 6, 2018, 5:23 AM

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lmao

compact sedge May 6, 2018, 5:23 AM

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One of the first lines I added and still haven't removed it

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also the way I do the balloon attack is really hacky

copper nacelle May 6, 2018, 5:24 AM

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wait what's the difference between killed and defeated grimm

floral furnace May 6, 2018, 5:24 AM

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ahh the usual "//Dont know if this fucking works but im keeping it incase something might need it later""
comments

compact sedge May 6, 2018, 5:24 AM

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defeated triggers on any grimm ending

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but killed only triggers when you kill the NKG

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and don't cast out the troupe

copper nacelle May 6, 2018, 5:25 AM

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why the and tho

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why not just the first condition

compact sedge May 6, 2018, 5:25 AM

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because it'd be weird to fight grimm after casting out the troupe

copper nacelle May 6, 2018, 5:25 AM

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wait i mean

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why not just the second condition

compact sedge May 6, 2018, 5:26 AM

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because I'm not sure if there's anything that happens after you kill nkg but before the defeated condition gets triggered

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and I just wanted to be safe

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I'll clean this stuff up later tbh

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it's very messy but I wanted to upload it because I got it to work

copper nacelle May 6, 2018, 5:26 AM

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cool

pearl sentinel May 6, 2018, 5:31 AM

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Ooh, graig is doing a 107%+PoP run

delicate ether May 6, 2018, 6:16 AM

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whats pop

livid estuary May 6, 2018, 6:16 AM

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path of pain

young walrus May 6, 2018, 6:16 AM

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it's a fizzy drink

delicate ether May 6, 2018, 6:35 AM

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dunno what that is

copper nacelle May 6, 2018, 6:36 AM

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@compact sedge did you just compile w/ mono?

compact sedge May 6, 2018, 6:36 AM

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no I used visual studio

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2017

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community edition

copper nacelle May 6, 2018, 6:36 AM

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📎 unknown.png

compact sedge May 6, 2018, 6:37 AM

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yeah ok I can explain

copper nacelle May 6, 2018, 6:37 AM

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did you reboot every time you tested it

compact sedge May 6, 2018, 6:37 AM

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I made a VM just to write this mod. The vm had access to my hollow knight folder through samba. I did this because there's a lot of unity tools that are windows only

copper nacelle May 6, 2018, 6:37 AM

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lmao

compact sedge May 6, 2018, 6:37 AM

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my windows machine CAN run hollow knight but there's no GPU drivers so the way it runs it is through wine dx9 to translate to openGL and then through mesa software rendering

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and I get about 9 fps

copper nacelle May 6, 2018, 6:38 AM

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doesn't kvm have passthrough for folders

compact sedge May 6, 2018, 6:38 AM

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that way

copper nacelle May 6, 2018, 6:38 AM

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lul

compact sedge May 6, 2018, 6:38 AM

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yes but samba works better and is easier to setup

copper nacelle May 6, 2018, 6:38 AM

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tbh would've thought it would be annoyingly slow

compact sedge May 6, 2018, 6:38 AM

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I have the hollow knight folder mods folder mounted and visual studio has a symlink to compile right to there

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also I already found a bug so uh yay me I guess

copper nacelle May 6, 2018, 6:40 AM

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lol

compact sedge May 6, 2018, 6:56 AM

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uhh she disappears after taking 500 damage :p

📎 unknown.png

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Just got my controller so I was able to find that

copper nacelle May 6, 2018, 6:57 AM

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grimm girl mod confirmed

compact sedge May 6, 2018, 6:58 AM

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Well it*'s supposed to use the Balloon attack every 500 damage but I think I put it in an invalid state.

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I just give everything a random gender sometimes because English is really bad about neutral pronouns

leaden hedge May 6, 2018, 7:09 AM

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what about they 🤔

compact sedge May 6, 2018, 7:09 AM

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what about they? I should probably use it more

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that's what about it

flat forum May 6, 2018, 1:29 PM

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Berserk mod is so cool

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but there appears to be a damage buff

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and at the same time Debug mod shows that I'm dealing 21 damage per hit

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what?

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also

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because of the berserk I died psot-beating Grimm

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I can't leave

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help

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maybe fix that

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if you "die" - your HP is set to 0 because of the Berserk you can't leave boss rooms

solemn rivet May 6, 2018, 2:44 PM

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Kek

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It's a multiplier to all damage dealt, so debug prolly won't see that

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Also, I don't get what you mean by "can't leave boss rooms"

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Is the timer too short?

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I can make the berserk toggable on demand instead of using a charm

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Or I can make it more similar to A2's in that the timer stops draining if you have only 1 health

flat forum May 6, 2018, 5:10 PM

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ok, back

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took long enough, sorry

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so, doors unlock after you beat the boss

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but also don't unlock at all if you're dead - your health = 0

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so, tested it on Grimm

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Double Grimm actually

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And beat both without much problem

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but I was left with like 1 health at the last hit

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so, during the talking with the Grimm NPC

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my health fell an extra 1 - it's now 0 but because of the Mod I'm not dead

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so you're stuck - the boss is dead and you can't leave by dying

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and the room is fully locked down and you can't leave normally

copper nacelle May 6, 2018, 5:12 PM

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quit out

flat forum May 6, 2018, 5:13 PM

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I have debug mod, I just NoClipped away

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but

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it's still a problem if you wanna use the mod around

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the same will happen with every area that locks itself

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you either need to beat it and have enough remaining health to continue (which shouldn't be a problem most of the time, but then again - Grimm and Hornet #2 require talking with them to unlock the room ) or quit and come back

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now that I mention Hornet

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there was a buffed Hornet mod, wasn't there?

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is it finished?

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can I find it somewhere?

copper nacelle May 6, 2018, 5:15 PM

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no

flat forum May 6, 2018, 5:15 PM

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it's not finished?

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that's reasonable

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but the rest, regarding the dead state not allowing you to escape

solemn rivet May 6, 2018, 6:01 PM

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wait - why does the mod make you not die if you have 0 hp?

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anyway, that seems easy enough to fix

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did you like it being a charm - or would you rather it was always on?

copper nacelle May 6, 2018, 6:02 PM

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they get 0 hp in a convo and get softlocked

flat forum May 6, 2018, 6:03 PM

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you can't die from the charm alone

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you stay on a -1 healh thing with a single health on top of the Soul bar

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I somehwat like it being a charm

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but can you apply the code to FoTF

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it seems more fitting

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that's all for now

copper nacelle May 6, 2018, 6:04 PM

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but it's hiveblood because hiveblood

flat forum May 6, 2018, 6:04 PM

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I really like the mod

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@copper nacelle it uses Lifeblood's health changing thing as a main mechanic

copper nacelle May 6, 2018, 6:05 PM

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wow it's almost like that's why it uses hiveblood

flat forum May 6, 2018, 6:05 PM

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yeah

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I know

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but

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I mean

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Ok

solemn rivet May 6, 2018, 6:06 PM

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I can make fotf have the effect, sure

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but hiveblood won't work anyway

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I can make hiveblood work

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but there's no point to it

flat forum May 6, 2018, 6:06 PM

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well, no one uses it anyways

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it costs too much

solemn rivet May 6, 2018, 6:06 PM

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because the two don't really work well together

copper nacelle May 6, 2018, 6:07 PM

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wouldn't they negate

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each other

solemn rivet May 6, 2018, 6:07 PM

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yup

copper nacelle May 6, 2018, 6:07 PM

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ez free damage

solemn rivet May 6, 2018, 6:07 PM

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they count at exactly the same amount

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not really

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but yeah

flat forum May 6, 2018, 6:07 PM

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make Hiveblood... hmmm

solemn rivet May 6, 2018, 6:07 PM

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you need to equip them both tho

flat forum May 6, 2018, 6:08 PM

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well, equpiing them both negates the effect

solemn rivet May 6, 2018, 6:08 PM

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and if people insist on me keeping berserk and hiveblood

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I'm gonna make berserk cost 7 notches

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just to be mean

copper nacelle May 6, 2018, 6:08 PM

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lmao

flat forum May 6, 2018, 6:08 PM

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For sucha strong buff it doesn't seem unreasonable for it to cost like 5

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you melt enemies' health

solemn rivet May 6, 2018, 6:09 PM

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I'm still working on balancing tho

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how much should the multiplier be and how fast should the health drain

flat forum May 6, 2018, 6:09 PM

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make health drop faster, but stop at 1 health

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or just stop it at 1 health

solemn rivet May 6, 2018, 6:09 PM

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yeah, I'll make it stop at 1 health

copper nacelle May 6, 2018, 6:09 PM

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so fotf but better?

solemn rivet May 6, 2018, 6:09 PM

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I'll also add a check if the player can control the knight

flat forum May 6, 2018, 6:10 PM

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@copper nacelle (That's basically the mod)

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Ok

solemn rivet May 6, 2018, 6:10 PM

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once again, I can make it also drain your soul once your health is depleted

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just to be mean²

flat forum May 6, 2018, 6:10 PM

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HMMMM

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also

solemn rivet May 6, 2018, 6:10 PM

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so you can't heal once you're at 1 HP

flat forum May 6, 2018, 6:10 PM

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spells seem to be VERY buffed too

solemn rivet May 6, 2018, 6:11 PM

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yeah, multiplier is applied to everything

copper nacelle May 6, 2018, 6:11 PM

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does it use hitinstance?

solemn rivet May 6, 2018, 6:11 PM

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yup

flat forum May 6, 2018, 6:11 PM

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2 Abyss Shrieks got me down through 1/4-1/3 of Grimm's Health

solemn rivet May 6, 2018, 6:11 PM

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eh

copper nacelle May 6, 2018, 6:11 PM

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i mean

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abyss shriek is the most late-game damage upgrade

flat forum May 6, 2018, 6:12 PM

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So, maybe do something about Soul

solemn rivet May 6, 2018, 6:12 PM

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hitinstances happen multiple times per frame, but the multiplier doesn't stack, so it should be fine

copper nacelle May 6, 2018, 6:12 PM

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do you just apply the multiplier and it doesn't stack?

solemn rivet May 6, 2018, 6:12 PM

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because that's how charms affect damage tbf

copper nacelle May 6, 2018, 6:12 PM

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or do you apply 1/4th of the multiplier or whatever

solemn rivet May 6, 2018, 6:13 PM

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fotf, for instance, has hit.damageDealt = naildamage and hit.multiplier = 1.75f

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same goes for fStrength

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and shaman

copper nacelle May 6, 2018, 6:13 PM

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shaman?

solemn rivet May 6, 2018, 6:14 PM

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oopsie

flat forum May 6, 2018, 6:14 PM

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Maybe make BerserkCharm use thrice the soul for healing/spells

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(mentioning Spell Twister)

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or something

solemn rivet May 6, 2018, 6:15 PM

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well, the original idea was to mimic A2's berserk mode

flat forum May 6, 2018, 6:15 PM

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because spells that are OP anyways become stupidly powerful with the charm

solemn rivet May 6, 2018, 6:15 PM

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I'll make the health drain faster then

flat forum May 6, 2018, 6:15 PM

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Ok

solemn rivet May 6, 2018, 6:15 PM

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like

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1 mask per second

flat forum May 6, 2018, 6:16 PM

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that's too much

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how is it usually

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1 every 5?

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4?

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3?

solemn rivet May 6, 2018, 6:16 PM

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10

copper nacelle May 6, 2018, 6:16 PM

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.5

flat forum May 6, 2018, 6:16 PM

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make it every 3

solemn rivet May 6, 2018, 6:16 PM

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1 mask/10 seconds

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nope, I've already decided - I'm gonna mimic A2 once again

flat forum May 6, 2018, 6:16 PM

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every 3 or 5 seconds sounds good

solemn rivet May 6, 2018, 6:16 PM

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her health drains in 5 seconds

flat forum May 6, 2018, 6:16 PM

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Ok

solemn rivet May 6, 2018, 6:16 PM

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that's what the knight gets

flat forum May 6, 2018, 6:16 PM

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every 5 seconds

solemn rivet May 6, 2018, 6:16 PM

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jk

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I mean, her full health drains in 5 seconds

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I'll surely add that if I can make the mod tied to a button press

flat forum May 6, 2018, 6:17 PM

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Oh

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no

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1 mask every 5 sec

solemn rivet May 6, 2018, 6:17 PM

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so you can activate it only when you need it

copper nacelle May 6, 2018, 6:17 PM

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imo do full health in 5 sec

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regardless of whether or not it becomes a button press

solemn rivet May 6, 2018, 6:18 PM

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then the game becomes impossible, 56

copper nacelle May 6, 2018, 6:18 PM

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dunq

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doesn't it stop at 1 hp

solemn rivet May 6, 2018, 6:18 PM

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I'm p sure there are areas you can't get through in less than 5 seconds

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oh

flat forum May 6, 2018, 6:18 PM

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make a charm that kills you every time you equip it/ do a mandatory for gameplay action - press left

solemn rivet May 6, 2018, 6:18 PM

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yeah

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you have a point

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but, then

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how is that different from a mod that simply gives you 1hp?

flat forum May 6, 2018, 6:18 PM

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it turns into Glass Soul

solemn rivet May 6, 2018, 6:18 PM

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yeah

flat forum May 6, 2018, 6:19 PM

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we want Berserk, not Glass Soul

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1 mask every 5 sec

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if that's too much - every 3

solemn rivet May 6, 2018, 6:21 PM

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so

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I'm trying to check for the controlRelinquished bool - which I know exisits because I've used it before

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but vs won't auto-complete

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and I'm like wtf

copper nacelle May 6, 2018, 6:22 PM

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private?

solemn rivet May 6, 2018, 6:22 PM

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then

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public bool controlReqlinquished;

copper nacelle May 6, 2018, 6:22 PM

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tf

solemn rivet May 6, 2018, 6:22 PM

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kwk

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no

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if they can call it Reqlinquished

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I can say kwk

copper nacelle May 6, 2018, 6:23 PM

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lmao

solemn rivet May 6, 2018, 6:23 PM

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their damageReceived method is also called damageRecieved, so there's that

flat forum May 6, 2018, 6:24 PM

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wait

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it's called Reqlinquished?

solemn rivet May 6, 2018, 6:25 PM

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yup

flat forum May 6, 2018, 6:25 PM

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Why?!

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wait

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black squares started appearing on Discord

copper nacelle May 6, 2018, 6:25 PM

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because tc good spell

flat forum May 6, 2018, 6:25 PM

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why?

solemn rivet May 6, 2018, 6:25 PM

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I'd love to know why

flat forum May 6, 2018, 6:25 PM

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help

solemn rivet May 6, 2018, 6:25 PM

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u ded

flat forum May 6, 2018, 6:25 PM

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Black squared left and right

solemn rivet May 6, 2018, 6:25 PM

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omae wa mou shindeiru

flat forum May 6, 2018, 6:26 PM

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N-NANI?!

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oh, they're gone

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you killed them

solemn rivet May 6, 2018, 6:26 PM

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ye, I was talking to the black squares, not you

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hollowface

flat forum May 6, 2018, 6:26 PM

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the black squares answered, not me

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hollowface

solemn rivet May 6, 2018, 6:28 PM

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ok... How do I get it to trigger on button press?

copper nacelle May 6, 2018, 6:29 PM

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uhhh

flat forum May 6, 2018, 6:29 PM

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if.ButtonPressed=(true)

Then Whatyouwantdone=(true)

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Totally works

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12/10 times

copper nacelle May 6, 2018, 6:29 PM

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imo 6/5

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-.5 points

flat forum May 6, 2018, 6:33 PM

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can you make it 5 sec?

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did it work?

solemn rivet May 6, 2018, 6:35 PM

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I'm still trying to figure out how to make my own bindings

solemn rivet May 6, 2018, 7:07 PM

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    public void LoadKeyboardSettings()
    {
        this.LoadEnum<Key>("KeyJump", ref this.jumpKey, Key.Z);
        this.LoadEnum<Key>("KeyAttack", ref this.attackKey, Key.X);
        this.LoadEnum<Key>("KeyDash", ref this.dashKey, Key.C);
        this.LoadEnum<Key>("KeyCast", ref this.castKey, Key.A);
        this.LoadEnum<Key>("KeySupDash", ref this.superDashKey, Key.S);
        this.LoadEnum<Key>("KeyDreamnail", ref this.dreamNailKey, Key.D);
        this.LoadEnum<Key>("KeyQuickMap", ref this.quickMapKey, Key.Tab);
        this.LoadEnum<Key>("KeyQuickCast", ref this.quickCastKey, Key.F);
        this.LoadEnum<Key>("KeyInventory", ref this.inventoryKey, Key.I);
        this.LoadEnum<Key>("KeyUp", ref this.upKey, Key.UpArrow);
        this.LoadEnum<Key>("KeyDown", ref this.downKey, Key.DownArrow);
        this.LoadEnum<Key>("KeyLeft", ref this.leftKey, Key.LeftArrow);
        this.LoadEnum<Key>("KeyRight", ref this.rightKey, Key.RightArrow);
    }```seems pretty straightforward for kb

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but for gamepads...

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    public bool LoadGamepadSettings(GamepadType gamepadType)
    {
        if (gamepadType != GamepadType.NONE)
        {
            string key = "Controller" + gamepadType.ToString();
            string empty = string.Empty;
            if (this.LoadString(key, ref empty, string.Empty))
            {
                this.controllerMapping = JsonUtility.FromJson<ControllerMapping>(empty);
                return true;
            }
        }
        return false;
    }```

compact sedge May 6, 2018, 7:08 PM

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uh that reminds me, my gamepad doesn't work in hollow knight when I use the mod api.

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I have to have the gamepad send out keyboard keys for it to work

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instead of emulating an xbox controller

solemn rivet May 6, 2018, 7:09 PM

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weird

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it works fine for me

compact sedge May 6, 2018, 7:10 PM

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might just be an OS thing

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but I wonder what about gamepad functionality was changed by the mod api to break it for me

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I'll test it in my vm to see if so

solemn rivet May 6, 2018, 7:23 PM

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well, I've gotta leave in a few

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if anyone has any suggestions of how to implement key bindings, please send me a DM

copper nacelle May 6, 2018, 7:25 PM

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there's a consts thing

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in the new beta

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with some gamepad mappings iirc

compact sedge May 6, 2018, 7:26 PM

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does the modding api work on the beta

copper nacelle May 6, 2018, 7:29 PM

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i compiled it for beta at some point

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might be old now

solemn rivet May 6, 2018, 7:51 PM

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ok, just before I go, here's a tentative compilation that should prevent health from draining below 1HP and while talking/stuff

📎 BerserkMod.dll

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everything else was kept the same

bronze temple May 6, 2018, 8:19 PM

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@copper nacelle I've just pushed a change to HookGen that could break future mods. Please pass --private before the input assembly path

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this allows you to keep hooking private methods and methods in private classes

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they're now hidden by default to prevent clutter

copper nacelle May 6, 2018, 8:19 PM

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ok

bronze temple May 6, 2018, 8:20 PM

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If anything breaks down, please ping me immediately

copper nacelle May 6, 2018, 8:20 PM

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alright

solemn rivet May 6, 2018, 8:22 PM

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You sound like you're from the fbi

bronze temple May 6, 2018, 8:22 PM

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Sorry 😅 It's just that I'm worried about existing mods breaking

solemn rivet May 6, 2018, 8:22 PM

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I mean, you could be from the fbi for all I know

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thinkgrub

scenic slate May 6, 2018, 10:10 PM

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trying to install enemey randomizer but failing to load thinkgrub

copper nacelle May 6, 2018, 10:10 PM

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did you install modcommon 🤔

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also use the installer

scenic slate May 6, 2018, 10:11 PM

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oh wait no lol

copper nacelle May 6, 2018, 10:11 PM

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installer pls

pearl sentinel May 6, 2018, 10:11 PM

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Oh, 56. I think I figured out those out of memory crashes.

copper nacelle May 6, 2018, 10:12 PM

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imo not me but ok

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what was the problem?

pearl sentinel May 6, 2018, 10:12 PM

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Next one we get, see if they're using a laptop or have an nvidia (if I'm not around)

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Bc someone had a problem and output log said they were using integrated graphics

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Looked into it, and there's some issue with unity games where the game will not use their dedicated card

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Unless you set it to in the nvidia control panel

scenic slate May 6, 2018, 10:13 PM

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um where do u download modcommon xd

pearl sentinel May 6, 2018, 10:13 PM

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So with the integrated card you hit a graphics memory issue

copper nacelle May 6, 2018, 10:14 PM

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you download the installer and press the install button right next to the word modcommon

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p l e a s e

pearl sentinel May 6, 2018, 10:14 PM

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Also the person likely is playing with shit settings and has no idea why

copper nacelle May 6, 2018, 10:14 PM

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lul

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it should also be in the google drive

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kerr - modcommon

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iirc

pearl sentinel May 6, 2018, 10:17 PM

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Should be

scenic slate May 6, 2018, 10:18 PM

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it is Im just stupid

delicate ether May 6, 2018, 10:19 PM

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Mod Idea for enemy randomizer, charm randomizer and lock. You could have a chaos mode where charm setup changes every transition, a mode where it changes once (like room mode) and a mode where its set when you start the game.

copper nacelle May 6, 2018, 10:20 PM

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but it's an enemy randomizer

delicate ether May 6, 2018, 10:20 PM

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Well i was thinling the code that does the randomizing could easily be tied into charms

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thinking

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 2:06 AM

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what would be a good key to bind berserk mode to?

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on kbm

copper nacelle May 7, 2018, 2:08 AM

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default controls?

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like

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s

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but

rain cedar May 7, 2018, 2:08 AM

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Just make it configurable

copper nacelle May 7, 2018, 2:08 AM

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a lot of people use wasd

rain cedar May 7, 2018, 2:08 AM

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S is superdash for me

copper nacelle May 7, 2018, 2:08 AM

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^

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configurable is the best

leaden hedge May 7, 2018, 2:11 AM

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hold alt then press f4 hollowface

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 2:15 AM

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eh

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configurable

compact sedge May 7, 2018, 2:16 AM

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alt + sysrq + b . b is for berserk

copper nacelle May 7, 2018, 2:19 AM

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sysrq more like i still need to enable that

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 2:36 AM

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I have no idea how to do that

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I mean, I probably can work out how to make a rebindable action

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but how do I give that option to the player?

copper nacelle May 7, 2018, 2:37 AM

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menu

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 2:37 AM

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eww

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I don't know how to work with the menu

copper nacelle May 7, 2018, 2:37 AM

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menu actual pain

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i looked at the api code

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and then at kerr's code

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then gave up

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 2:38 AM

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for now I'll bind it to L3+R3 on controller

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for now I'll bind it to "End" on kb

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just to kek

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so, umm

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anyone got experience with unity controls?

#

berserkToggle.berserkL.AddDefaultBinding(InputControlType.LeftStickButton);
berserkToggle.berserkR.AddDefaultBinding(InputControlType.RightStickButton);
berserkToggle.berserkKb.AddDefaultBinding(Key.End);```

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these basically work

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but sometimes, the game just randomly doesn't get the input

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I thought that maybe I wasn't pressing L3+R3 quickly enough

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but even when I bound it to End, it sometimes skips the trigger completely

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maybe it's because I'm checking for button presses on Fixed Update?

leaden hedge May 7, 2018, 3:08 AM

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probably

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 3:17 AM

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Yup that was it

leaden hedge May 7, 2018, 3:24 AM

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fixed update gets called a lot

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but like inbetween and during frames

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pretty much whenever the engine can

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and that probably messes with input polling

flat forum May 7, 2018, 5:08 AM

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hey

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gonna test the mod

rain cedar May 7, 2018, 6:27 AM

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Having trouble setting up an input field

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Seems like all it does is break mouse events for whichever menu I put it in

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No errors in the setup, though

leaden hedge May 7, 2018, 7:43 AM

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don't they use some shitty ui system

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on top of canvas

rain cedar May 7, 2018, 7:47 AM

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Yeah

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So far I can get the caret to show but nothing else works

flat forum May 7, 2018, 7:50 AM

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can background blur be removed?

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is it an engine thing?

rain cedar May 7, 2018, 7:52 AM

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I don't even know what you mean

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The game isn't blurry

flat forum May 7, 2018, 7:52 AM

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Background Blur

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the background is blurred

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foreground is Ok

rain cedar May 7, 2018, 7:55 AM

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Not really something I care enough to look into

flat forum May 7, 2018, 7:55 AM

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I want to take screenshots of places without the blur

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that's why I'm asking

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if anyone knows tell me

compact sedge May 7, 2018, 7:57 AM

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I bet the blur is hiding low res textures

flat forum May 7, 2018, 7:59 AM

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so it's an engine thing?

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I don't really care all that much I wanna see crystal clear Backgrounds

rain cedar May 7, 2018, 7:59 AM

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It's probably just controlled by the distance from the camera

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Or the object layer

steel patio May 7, 2018, 9:00 AM

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is there an ng+ mod :u

exotic venture May 7, 2018, 9:02 AM

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oh yeah there is

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it's called hell mod

steel patio May 7, 2018, 9:03 AM

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uhh

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care to elaborate?

exotic venture May 7, 2018, 9:04 AM

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basically it's a mod that buffs enemies and nerfs (You)

steel patio May 7, 2018, 9:04 AM

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oh

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that's not what i was looking for

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i just wanted to play the game from the beginning but with all the stuff

exotic venture May 7, 2018, 9:04 AM

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but

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where's the fun in that

steel patio May 7, 2018, 9:05 AM

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there's lots of fun

rain cedar May 7, 2018, 9:05 AM

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Use a save editor

steel patio May 7, 2018, 9:05 AM

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watch a shovel knight ng+ run it's super fun

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a save editor that can say "yo you collected everything" but not modify too many other things?

rain cedar May 7, 2018, 9:06 AM

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That's the idea behind a save editor, yeah

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It changes what you tell it to change

steel patio May 7, 2018, 9:06 AM

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oh okay

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uh

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the only save editor i know how to use is shitty

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and/or json conversion which i tried, but kingsoul bugs out

rain cedar May 7, 2018, 9:07 AM

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📌

steel patio May 7, 2018, 9:09 AM

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i don't see a save editor in pins

rain cedar May 7, 2018, 9:10 AM

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Look harder, then

steel patio May 7, 2018, 9:10 AM

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i looked it over three times.

rain cedar May 7, 2018, 9:11 AM

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📎 unknown.png

steel patio May 7, 2018, 9:11 AM

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oh that one.

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that's the crummy one though.

rain cedar May 7, 2018, 9:11 AM

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Well you'll just have to make do, then

steel patio May 7, 2018, 9:12 AM

#

_>

leaden hedge May 7, 2018, 9:29 AM

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what exactly is wrong with it

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its open source

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so you're free to improve it

rain cedar May 7, 2018, 9:29 AM

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It's shitty

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Duh

exotic venture May 7, 2018, 9:30 AM

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inb4 "doesn't look as good as Crossroads"

leaden hedge May 7, 2018, 9:32 AM

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i don't get paid enough to write fancy looking guis

rain cedar May 7, 2018, 9:32 AM

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It's no wonder you don't get paid much with that attitude

leaden hedge May 7, 2018, 9:33 AM

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its a self fulfilling prophecy, i don't get paid enough to make good guis, and I don't have good enough guis to get paid enough FeelsBadMan

exotic venture May 7, 2018, 9:34 AM

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a vicious cycle indeed, and when you do make something nice for free people will still complain

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just because they do

compact sedge May 7, 2018, 10:11 AM

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ugh I can't believe your save manager wasn't written in Unity 0/10

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worst save manager ever

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I want a full refund

floral furnace May 7, 2018, 10:15 AM

#

question, having 2 classes in a single namespace is ok right? ie:
public class Class1 : MonoBehavior{

}
public class Class2 : Mod{

}
right?

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just making sure

compact sedge May 7, 2018, 10:16 AM

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yes

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All my classes were in the same namespace and nothing broke so I'm gonna say yes

floral furnace May 7, 2018, 10:17 AM

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weird, my monobehavior class cant seem to register or see my void Update/Start/etc, probably should look into more of this, thanks anyway

compact sedge May 7, 2018, 10:18 AM

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Did you do: GameManager.instance.gameObject.AddComponent<Class1>()

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This needs to be somewhere in your class that extends Mod

floral furnace May 7, 2018, 10:20 AM

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well my main mod is working, but i made a 2nd class because i need it to get hooked to MonoBehaviour instead so i can use Update()

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well whatever im gonna try it anyway

#

alright there we go, i added it to my main mods initialization method

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thanks again

leaden hedge May 7, 2018, 10:24 AM

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you don't need to do that btw

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theres a hook for update iirc

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so you can just call stuff everyframe without attaching a monobehaviour script to a gameobject

floral furnace May 7, 2018, 10:26 AM

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well im using your text stuff that you showed me last time to test the canvas stuff, unless theres another update hook other than HeroUpdateHook then using it seems to dissappear mid game, i should check the modding hooks again

leaden hedge May 7, 2018, 10:27 AM

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HeroUpdateHook should be sufficient

floral furnace May 7, 2018, 10:27 AM

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aight ill test with that one again, see if it doesnt dissapear for some reason this time

leaden hedge May 7, 2018, 10:27 AM

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dissappear "mid game" is when exactly?

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after a loading screen?

floral furnace May 7, 2018, 10:28 AM

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yeah

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sorry wrong wording

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it dissapears after i load the game

leaden hedge May 7, 2018, 10:28 AM

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DontDestroyOnLoad(canvas)

floral furnace May 7, 2018, 10:35 AM

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HeroUpdate should be called only when you have in control of the knight yes?

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as in youre actually in game

leaden hedge May 7, 2018, 10:35 AM

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it won't be in control

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but it'll only be in game

floral furnace May 7, 2018, 10:36 AM

#

Ahh ok ok thats what im looking for ty

leaden hedge May 7, 2018, 10:36 AM

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yeah it won't disable if you lose control i.e. from a cutscene

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but it won't run in the main menu

floral furnace May 7, 2018, 10:37 AM

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im guessing the controller object is only created once in game hence it works like that?

leaden hedge May 7, 2018, 10:38 AM

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pretty much

floral furnace May 7, 2018, 10:45 AM

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alright it worked, thanks again

amber citrus May 7, 2018, 11:26 AM

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is the co-op dream sheild mod a virus?

humble sinew May 7, 2018, 11:31 AM

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no its just complicated to install
the creator of that mod is even on this server if i am correct

amber citrus May 7, 2018, 11:31 AM

#

thanks

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mylajoy

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 12:37 PM

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Is it complicated tho?

#

I thought it was just like any other mod?

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 1:26 PM

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so, now that berserk mode is tied to keypress, I can keep it as a charm, or make it simply "always available"

#

any ideas?

floral furnace May 7, 2018, 1:29 PM

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does it provide damage boosts while its active?

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 1:31 PM

#

yup

#

now it works exactly like A2's

#

you can trigger it on command

#

and it'll quickly drain your health

#

but double your damage

#

like, very quickly

#

1 mask/second

floral furnace May 7, 2018, 1:34 PM

#

~~well shit the mod im doing is kinda similar, oh well~~

i guess 1 mask for a huge damage output is a fair trade off

#

do you tend to one hit stuff at that point?

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 1:34 PM

#

once you hit 1 health the berserk mode is disabled

#

the idea is to toggle it only when you need a high damage output (like, a boss is staggered)

#

and disable it after

floral furnace May 7, 2018, 1:35 PM

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you didnt fiddle with the soul stuff?

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 1:35 PM

#

no

#

I thought adding the option to toggle it on/off whenever you want would fix most issues

#

like dying after bosses and stuff

floral furnace May 7, 2018, 1:36 PM

#

nail damages per upgrade stays the same?

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 1:37 PM

#

yup

#

every damage you do is doubled tho

floral furnace May 7, 2018, 1:38 PM

#

did you change if the player says, use jonis, tho tbh its their lost to begin with cuz they wont be healing the lost health

#

other than that i think the double damage per 1 mask is a good enough punishment imo

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 1:39 PM

#

I might make you also take double damage while it's active

floral furnace May 7, 2018, 1:40 PM

#

high risk high reward eh?

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 1:40 PM

#

so it becomes a real risk

#

yeah

#

because otherwise it's just straight up trading "you now have 1HP in exchange for dealing 2x damage for a while"

floral furnace May 7, 2018, 1:41 PM

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shit man i hope it doesnt look like as if im stealing your idea or anything, i was pondering of doing something similar for a while now lmao

#

but yeah i think the balance counter measures is good enough

#

oh wait nvm i thought berserk fotf 1 mask runs would be a thing, you did say it gets disabled afterwards you reach 1 mask

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 1:44 PM

#

yeah

#

well, I did this mod for a friend that makes you always have 1 HP, so you can equip FOTF and go wild, but that's basically glass soul tbh

#

what's your mod about?

#

and don't worry

#

I just recently got this idea after discussing it here with some other people

#

about adding A2 as a playable character

floral furnace May 7, 2018, 1:48 PM

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oh no i was just scared itll be similar to plagarism, nothing much tbh, you start out with half damage and have a rage meter that fills in every time you successfully hit, but it drains slowly after every second, once you do reach 100%, you have 5 secs of doing full damage and your attack speed is all set to 0.01, the fastest possible i think, which what i was also thinking of "what if i receive double damage during rage phase"

#

so basically kinda similar to the entire "high risk high reward" bs etc etc

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 1:50 PM

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nah, they are intrinsically different, as far as I'm concerned

floral furnace May 7, 2018, 1:50 PM

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good to know, dont want to look like im copying or anything

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 1:50 PM

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mine is more like a "fury of the gods/titans/sparta" from GOW

#

might I suggest that if you keep up the combo, the bar keeps on filling?

flat forum May 7, 2018, 1:51 PM

#

By the way

#

Damage boost on Berserk's too high

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 1:52 PM

#

yeah, I had screwed up and it was actually 3.5x instead of 2

flat forum May 7, 2018, 1:52 PM

#

I killed some of the tanliest enemies in like 2 minites

#

Yeah

#

And FoTF's damage boost is?

#

1.5 or 1.75?

floral furnace May 7, 2018, 1:53 PM

#

I might actually do that, thanks for the suggestion, yeah just didnt want to look like its unoriginal lmao

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 1:53 PM

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I'd set it to multiply damage by 2 in one place and by 1.75 in another

#

fotf is 1.75

flat forum May 7, 2018, 1:53 PM

#

So x2 isn't way too high

#

Ans how quick os the health drain rn?

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 1:54 PM

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1 mask/second

#

but you can toggle it with keypress

flat forum May 7, 2018, 1:55 PM

#

Mhm

leaden hedge May 7, 2018, 1:55 PM

#

what if i toggle for the frame i hit

#

and toggle it off again instantly

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 1:55 PM

#

you can do that - at least as it is rn

#

to prevent that, I'm gonna add a "charge up"

#

that takes like 1, maybe 2 seconds

#

and

#

if you let your health drain all the way down to 1, I'll make it so you have to do the slow walk

flat forum May 7, 2018, 1:56 PM

#

The same as in Dirtmouth?

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 1:56 PM

#

dunno yet

#

I'll have to figure out a speed that feels good

flat forum May 7, 2018, 1:57 PM

#

Becayse that one has a different animation

#

What changes sword reach?

#

Like Long Nail and Mark of Pride

#

Is there a certain thing noting how long your nail is?

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 2:03 PM

#

if (this.mantis && this.longnail)
    {
        base.transform.localScale = new Vector3(this.scale.x * 1.4f, this.scale.y * 1.4f, this.scale.z);
        this.anim.Play(this.animName + " M");
    }
    else if (this.mantis)
    {
        base.transform.localScale = new Vector3(this.scale.x * 1.25f, this.scale.y * 1.25f, this.scale.z);
        this.anim.Play(this.animName + " M");
    }
    else if (this.longnail)
    {
        base.transform.localScale = new Vector3(this.scale.x * 1.15f, this.scale.y * 1.15f, this.scale.z);
        this.anim.Play(this.animName);
    }
    else
    {
        base.transform.localScale = this.scale;
        this.anim.Play(this.animName);
    }```

flat forum May 7, 2018, 2:05 PM

#

This.mantis is Mark of Pride?

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 2:05 PM

#

yup

flat forum May 7, 2018, 2:08 PM

#

Can a mod be made that sets this.longnail's length (should be the x, right?) to this.scale.x * 5.00f

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 2:09 PM

#

sure

#

there's even a hefty link to the above class, if you want to try it

flat forum May 7, 2018, 2:11 PM

#

I'll be on my phone for quite a bit and most things won't work through it

#

I'll check it out when I get home

#

(Wait, the link is?)

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 2:12 PM

#

eh

#

I meant hook

#

sorry

flat forum May 7, 2018, 2:13 PM

#

The hook thing

#

That O had to download for Berserk mod?

#

*I

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 2:19 PM

#

oh, no

#

I meant that if you want to do that mod yourself, it wouldn't be too hard because there are conveniently placed tools

flat forum May 7, 2018, 2:20 PM

#

And that Hook is for?

#

(By the way, thanks for the explanation, you're being really nice)

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 2:20 PM

#

for setting the nail's properties, including its size

flat forum May 7, 2018, 2:20 PM

#

The Berserk one I mean

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 2:20 PM

#

np!

flat forum May 7, 2018, 2:22 PM

#

What does the FSM mod (in the Google drive) do?

#

What can you change with it?

pearl sentinel May 7, 2018, 2:23 PM

#

Folding papers, were you the other one with the enemy randomizer memory crash?

flat forum May 7, 2018, 2:24 PM

#

Yeah

#

Because

#

The 32 bit windows

#

(Probably)

#

@solemn rivet can you please send where I can find the Hook, I decided that I'll try and save it on my phone first and computer after that

#

@pearl sentinel And? Can it be fixed?

#

Or do I just change the windows to 64 bit?

pearl sentinel May 7, 2018, 2:29 PM

#

Maybe it can be fixed

#

Is your video card nvidia?

flat forum May 7, 2018, 2:29 PM

#

Hmmm

pearl sentinel May 7, 2018, 2:29 PM

#

And are you on a laptop?

flat forum May 7, 2018, 2:29 PM

#

I can't check right now, I'm on mu phone

#

But based on memory

#

When right clicking on the wallpaper screen

pearl sentinel May 7, 2018, 2:30 PM

#

And what resolution were you playing at?

flat forum May 7, 2018, 2:30 PM

#

There was an "NVidia" thing

#

I'm on an typical computer, not a laptop

#

Resilution is set to 1280x720

pearl sentinel May 7, 2018, 2:31 PM

#

Ok, but of nvidia there might still be hope

flat forum May 7, 2018, 2:31 PM

#

I'm all ears👂

pearl sentinel May 7, 2018, 2:32 PM

#

Next time you can try and crash it, post the output_log.txt file here and what kind of video card you have

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 2:32 PM

#

I mean - is there hope if he's running win 86x?

flat forum May 7, 2018, 2:33 PM

#

It's x64

#

But the windows is 32 bit and also limits the 8GB ram to 3.5GB

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 2:34 PM

#

yeah, 32-bit does that

pearl sentinel May 7, 2018, 2:34 PM

#

I gotta get ready for work, but the short of it is that it's likely an issue with unity games and nvidia cards

flat forum May 7, 2018, 2:34 PM

#

I'll try

pearl sentinel May 7, 2018, 2:34 PM

#

But I need to see the output_log.txt to know for sure

flat forum May 7, 2018, 2:35 PM

#

I do know tho

pearl sentinel May 7, 2018, 2:35 PM

#

The fix is to change a setting in nvidia control panel

flat forum May 7, 2018, 2:35 PM

#

That game crashes because of memory issies when I try enter the Final Boss room

#

I'll make sure when I get home

pearl sentinel May 7, 2018, 2:36 PM

#

Yeah this would also effect the normal game

flat forum May 7, 2018, 2:38 PM

#

@solemn rivet so, where can I find the Hook, I'll try making a copy on my Google Drive

#

From my phone

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 2:38 PM

#

that's... Not how it works

#

you'll need to create a new solution in VS which references the modding api

#

and then you can use the hook

flat forum May 7, 2018, 2:40 PM

#

https://github.com/0x0ade/MonoMod

GitHub

0x0ade/MonoMod

MonoMod - A general purpose .NET assembly modding "basework", powered by cecil.

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 2:40 PM

#

like I said, it has nothing to do with the hooks.dll

#

sorry for the confusion

flat forum May 7, 2018, 2:41 PM

#

I meant this

#

https://github.com/seanpr96/HollowKnight.Modding

GitHub

seanpr96/HollowKnight.Modding

Contribute to HollowKnight.Modding development by creating an account on GitHub.

#

Is there anything here?

#

(sorry for not understanding)

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 2:42 PM

#

no, no

#

it's fine

#

do you have VS?

flat forum May 7, 2018, 2:43 PM

#

Visual Studio?

#

I don't think so

#

But I can't check rn

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 2:46 PM

#

nah, it's fine

#

we can do this when you get home

flat forum May 7, 2018, 2:46 PM

#

Ok

#

I'll write when I do

#

Thanks a billion for the help agaon

#

Again

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 2:47 PM

#

np!

flat forum May 7, 2018, 3:47 PM

#

Ok, I'm home

#

and I just downloaded Visual Studio for the 32 bit windows 10

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 3:53 PM

#

kek

#

is it installed?

flat forum May 7, 2018, 3:54 PM

#

Yeah

#

it said something about Git

#

I'll ignore it for now

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 3:56 PM

#

ok

#

so first you'll need to create your solution

flat forum May 7, 2018, 3:58 PM

#

Ok

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 4:00 PM

#

go File >> New Project >> Class Library

flat forum May 7, 2018, 4:11 PM

#

wait, gimme a min

#

got Visual Studio Code by mistake

#

Visual Studio is downloading

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 4:23 PM

#

ok!

#

so, turns out that each health amount is its own separate game object

#

_GameCameras\HudCamera\Hud Canvas\Health\Health 11

flat forum May 7, 2018, 4:33 PM

#

And gaining health adds more of the object?

#

Sounds

#

I dunno

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 4:34 PM

#

no, it simply destroys the previous object and instantiates the new one

flat forum May 7, 2018, 4:42 PM

#

installing is taking quite long for some reason

#

sorry for the wait

#

Meanwhile, does Quickslash function the same way?

#

if (this.Quickslash)

        AttackSpeedSomthing * 0.8

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 4:48 PM

#

not quite

flat forum May 7, 2018, 4:48 PM

#

form of FPS manipulation?

#

like, it's usually 24 FPS, but with quickslash it's 30

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 4:51 PM

#

no, it just reduces the cooldown between attacks and ups the animation speed

flat forum May 7, 2018, 5:06 PM

#

I have an empty solution open

#

sorry for taking so long

#

something happened and I don't know what

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 5:08 PM

#

np

#

so, first, you need to add the modding api as a reference

#

go to project>>add reference

#

and select the modding api

flat forum May 7, 2018, 5:12 PM

#

I can't find Class Library for some reason

#

the Folder is empty

#

lemme check if it's the right folder

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 5:21 PM

#

📎 unknown.png

flat forum May 7, 2018, 5:24 PM

#

the Installed Folder is completely empty

flat forum May 7, 2018, 5:52 PM

#

Ok

#

computer needed a restart

#

but it's here

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 5:53 PM

#

oh

#

good

flat forum May 7, 2018, 5:54 PM

#

Assembly CSharp is the API File, right

#

the API CSharp, not the usual one

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 5:57 PM

#

yup

flat forum May 7, 2018, 5:57 PM

#

Ok, done

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 5:57 PM

#

ok

#

so now you need to take a look at some of the existing mods on github to figure out the basic structure

flat forum May 7, 2018, 5:58 PM

#

There's a massive list of things here
Achievement
Achievement Handles
...
AttackTypes
...

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 5:59 PM

#

umm

flat forum May 7, 2018, 5:59 PM

#

I don't touch any of it

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 5:59 PM

#

where exactly are you seeing that?

flat forum May 7, 2018, 6:00 PM

#

To the left, when I opened to see what's inside the Assembly-CSharp thing

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 6:00 PM

#

oh, no need to do that

#

just add it as a reference

flat forum May 7, 2018, 6:00 PM

#

Ok

#

which mod should I use to see basic structure

#

is Berserk goodfor that?

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 6:01 PM

#

https://github.com/Ayugradow/Enemy-HP-Bars/blob/master/src/HPBar.cs

GitHub

Ayugradow/Enemy-HP-Bars

Enemy-HP-Bars - Adaptation of KDT's HPBar mod for all enemies

#

the main things you need to worry about now is to make sure you're using Modding; and that you have a functional Initialize

flat forum May 7, 2018, 6:02 PM

#

(I found an ExampleMod thing)

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 6:02 PM

#

great!

flat forum May 7, 2018, 6:03 PM

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https://github.com/seanpr96/HollowKnight.Modding/blob/master/ExampleMods/Source/ExampleMod1/ExampleMod1.cs

GitHub

seanpr96/HollowKnight.Modding

Contribute to HollowKnight.Modding development by creating an account on GitHub.

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 6:03 PM

#

yup

#

so, to do what you wanted, you're going to have to hook to NailSlash

#

like I said, that hook already exists

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should be something like ModHooks.instance.NailSlashHook or something

flat forum May 7, 2018, 6:09 PM

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Wait, I'm still going through the example mod

and just to be sure I search for the ModHooks.instance.NailSlashHook where?

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 6:09 PM

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inside the initialize method

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ModHooks.Instance.SlashHitHook this is the correct hook name

flat forum May 7, 2018, 6:23 PM

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Boopmod uses it iirc

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 6:24 PM

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I think so, yeah

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sorry, I've gotta go now

flat forum May 7, 2018, 6:25 PM

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Ok

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 6:25 PM

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but I'm sure people in here will be able to help you

flat forum May 7, 2018, 6:25 PM

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I hope so too

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thanks a lot

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a lot

solemn rivet May 7, 2018, 10:57 PM

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how you holding up Folding?

solemn rivet May 8, 2018, 2:31 AM

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god, I hate these fsms

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I keep trying to play some charge up animations for the berserk effect

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but the fsm for the charms which I'm grabbing the animations from have a check that instantly disable the animations

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ffs

copper nacelle May 8, 2018, 2:32 AM

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f

thorn comet May 8, 2018, 2:36 AM

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hollowf

rain cedar May 8, 2018, 2:36 AM

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Just get rid of the fsm tbh

solemn rivet May 8, 2018, 2:36 AM

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but then I'd have to rewrite the whole charm into code

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which I actually plan on doing at some point

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but I don't really have the time rn

rain cedar May 8, 2018, 2:37 AM

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Isn't this just hiveblood, anyway?

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It shouldn't be a complicated thing to remake

solemn rivet May 8, 2018, 2:37 AM

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no, I'm tring to grab the thorn animation

rain cedar May 8, 2018, 2:37 AM

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Embed the sprites and play the animation yourself

solemn rivet May 8, 2018, 2:38 AM

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I'm doing that, literally that

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but the charm's fsm checks every frame

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"is the charm equipped? No, then don't play that animation"

rain cedar May 8, 2018, 2:39 AM

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The fsm shouldn't matter if you're handling the animation yourself

solemn rivet May 8, 2018, 2:40 AM

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here's me trying to play the charge up animation for the SD:

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knightAnimator.Play("SD Charge Ground");
knightAnimator.PlayFromFrame(0);```

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where knightAnimator is the tk2dSpriteAnimator component for the Knight gameobject

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and I've checked, it does have that clip in its library

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Clip name: SD Charge Ground

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one of the lines of csharp foreach (var clip in knightAnimator.Library.clips) { Log($"Clip name: {clip.name}"); }

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same thing for the thorn: Clip name: Thorn Attack

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I'll try killing the respective fsms and see what happens

rain cedar May 8, 2018, 2:44 AM

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Probably will break other things

solemn rivet May 8, 2018, 2:44 AM

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just to check if that's really it tho

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because if it is... I'm gonna have to cache the animation and instantiate it in my own gameobject

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which is feasible, but

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irk

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well, shit, it's not working

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weird thing is, it starts playing if I press it while sitting on a bench

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but does nothing if I'm walking/standing still

rain cedar May 8, 2018, 2:56 AM

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There is probably something forcing it back to idle/walk anim

solemn rivet May 8, 2018, 2:56 AM

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yeah...

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I'll probably have to relinquish control first or something

rain cedar May 8, 2018, 2:56 AM

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You can use monomod hooks to add logs into the animator

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So you know better what is happening

solemn rivet May 8, 2018, 2:57 AM

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oh, that's good to know

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it makes sense too, because while you're sat, relinquishedControl is true

rain cedar May 8, 2018, 2:59 AM

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Worth a try

solemn rivet May 8, 2018, 3:05 AM

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ok, last try before I give up for now

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listening to Stop and Play using the monomod detours

leaden hedge May 8, 2018, 3:07 AM

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working on adding an entirely new enemy into the game hollowface
https://gfycat.com/FemaleFormalBellsnake

Gfycat

2018-05-08 04-02-06

▶ Play video

copper nacelle May 8, 2018, 3:08 AM

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👀

leaden hedge May 8, 2018, 3:13 AM

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https://gfycat.com/DeadFrightenedAxolotl the ai actually works

Gfycat

2018-05-08 04-10-46

▶ Play video

solemn rivet May 8, 2018, 3:14 AM

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kdt's waifu

leaden hedge May 8, 2018, 3:14 AM

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https://gfycat.com/DependentEdibleDavidstiger although i should fix physics

Gfycat

2018-05-08 04-11-56

▶ Play video

open delta May 8, 2018, 3:15 AM

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LOL

flat forum May 8, 2018, 3:15 AM

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hey @solemn rivet

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By the time you wrote it was past midnight and I was asleep

rain cedar May 8, 2018, 3:17 AM

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Is that fennel?

leaden hedge May 8, 2018, 3:18 AM

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yes

rain cedar May 8, 2018, 3:18 AM

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Cool

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I ran that game for a very short bit but it hurt my hands too much

flat forum May 8, 2018, 3:21 AM

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Just a short refresher because I was tired

compact sedge May 8, 2018, 3:23 AM

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super cool kdt

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idk how you even start programming something like that

flat forum May 8, 2018, 3:24 AM

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I put ModHooks.Instance.SlashHitHook in the VS I had opened (just kept it there on a separate line so I won't lose it)

and I use it to edit this...
base.transform.localScale = new Vector3(this.scale.x * 1.4f, this.scale.y * 1.4f, this.scale.z)

How?

copper nacelle May 8, 2018, 3:25 AM

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what is that for

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MoP?

leaden hedge May 8, 2018, 3:25 AM

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he wants a big nail

copper nacelle May 8, 2018, 3:26 AM

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ik but for what charm

leaden hedge May 8, 2018, 3:26 AM

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i think just as is

copper nacelle May 8, 2018, 3:26 AM

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o

flat forum May 8, 2018, 3:26 AM

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No

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I want to change LongNail's resizing

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from 1.15 to either 5.0 or 10.0

copper nacelle May 8, 2018, 3:34 AM

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the gameobject is the knight's nail

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iirc

flat forum May 8, 2018, 3:35 AM

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Gradow was really nice and sent me this bit about the Nail's resizing

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if (this.mantis && this.longnail)
{
base.transform.localScale = new Vector3(this.scale.x * 1.4f, this.scale.y * 1.4f, this.scale.z);
this.anim.Play(this.animName + " M");
}
else if (this.mantis)
{
base.transform.localScale = new Vector3(this.scale.x * 1.25f, this.scale.y * 1.25f, this.scale.z);
this.anim.Play(this.animName + " M");
}
else if (this.longnail)
{
base.transform.localScale = new Vector3(this.scale.x * 1.15f, this.scale.y * 1.15f, this.scale.z);
this.anim.Play(this.animName);
}
else
{
base.transform.localScale = this.scale;
this.anim.Play(this.animName);
}

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I'm still trying to figure out what each element of the example mods does

solemn rivet May 8, 2018, 3:37 AM

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so first you need to get the nail objects

copper nacelle May 8, 2018, 3:38 AM

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            ModHooks.Instance.SlashHitHook += ree;
        }

        private void ree(Collider2D otherCollider, GameObject gameObject)
        {
            gameObject.transform.localScale = new Vector3(gameObject.transform.GetScaleX() * 5f, gameObject.transform.GetScaleY() * 5f, gameObject.transform.GetScaleZ());
        }

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this half works

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sometimes it's just normal nail tho

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idk why

solemn rivet May 8, 2018, 3:38 AM

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oh, the hook already gives you the gameobject

copper nacelle May 8, 2018, 3:39 AM

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idk why this isn't working

solemn rivet May 8, 2018, 3:39 AM

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weird

copper nacelle May 8, 2018, 3:39 AM

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i mean it is

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but like sometimes it isn't

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i'll make a vid

solemn rivet May 8, 2018, 3:39 AM

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maybe log the go, the collider and when it gets called?

copper nacelle May 8, 2018, 3:40 AM

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ohh

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thanks you've solved it

solemn rivet May 8, 2018, 3:40 AM

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?

copper nacelle May 8, 2018, 3:40 AM

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it's only big when it hits stuff i think

solemn rivet May 8, 2018, 3:40 AM

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yeah

copper nacelle May 8, 2018, 3:40 AM

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which i usually am

rain cedar May 8, 2018, 3:40 AM

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Well yeah it's SlashHitHook

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It's when you hit things

flat forum May 8, 2018, 3:40 AM

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BoopMod uses

solemn rivet May 8, 2018, 3:40 AM

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you could detour the whole NailSlash thing tho

flat forum May 8, 2018, 3:40 AM

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SlashHItHook

copper nacelle May 8, 2018, 3:41 AM

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that's what lightbringer does

solemn rivet May 8, 2018, 3:41 AM

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yeah, but it makes sense tho, because you only need to play the boop sfx when you hit something, Papers

flat forum May 8, 2018, 3:41 AM

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Yeah

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that's what I mean

solemn rivet May 8, 2018, 3:41 AM

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if you want the nail to always be big, you're going to have to do something else

flat forum May 8, 2018, 3:42 AM

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but the Nail should be always long

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there was an "AttackHook" thing

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iirc

solemn rivet May 8, 2018, 3:42 AM

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you could try hooking onto that

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you don't have a reference to the gameObject tho

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so you'll have to find it

rain cedar May 8, 2018, 3:43 AM

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HeroController has some NailSlash references which I imagine are on the nail object

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You would want to hook afterattack and change it there

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Oh there's just a scale field on NailSlash

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So yeah HeroController.slashComponent.scale

solemn rivet May 8, 2018, 3:45 AM

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oh, there you have it

rain cedar May 8, 2018, 3:45 AM

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Using reflection to get the slashComponent

solemn rivet May 8, 2018, 3:46 AM

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now I gotta go

flat forum May 8, 2018, 3:46 AM

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Ok

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Later 😃

leaden hedge May 8, 2018, 3:51 AM

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also got damage to work https://gfycat.com/BrokenPalatableHoki

Gfycat

2018-05-08 04-48-04

▶ Play video

copper nacelle May 8, 2018, 3:51 AM

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nice

rain cedar May 8, 2018, 3:52 AM

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That's pretty cool

rain cedar May 8, 2018, 5:42 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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There's an invisible wall after hornet

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In addition to the gate

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Why would they do this?

leaden hedge May 8, 2018, 5:42 AM

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stop cheaters

rain cedar May 8, 2018, 5:43 AM

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I guess I'm a cheater for wanting rando to not trap you in here

leaden hedge May 8, 2018, 5:43 AM

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its probably just some generic boss thing they did

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to spawn invis walls as soon as gates start to close so you can't lock yourself out

rain cedar May 8, 2018, 5:44 AM

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But I'm opening the gate the "proper" way

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By sending "BG OPEN" event

leaden hedge May 8, 2018, 5:45 AM

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weird

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might be something in the dreamer cutscene

rain cedar May 8, 2018, 5:46 AM

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Probably, yeah

compact sedge May 8, 2018, 5:49 AM

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Uh does "DeactivateIfPlayerdataFalse" component ignore "GetPlayerBoolHook"?

rain cedar May 8, 2018, 5:49 AM

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No

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I don't even know where the dreamer cutscene comes from

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There's nothing with dreamer in the name and the shiny fsm is identical to other ones

compact sedge May 8, 2018, 5:56 AM

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Huh well I'm confused then because I have this in my GetPlayerBoolHook, and it causes grimmchild to spawn and everything (object and all), but I can't dreamnail sleeping grimm (the teleporter game object doesn't exist and I get the message saying I need the child).

But if I equip grimmchild for real I can dreamnail him (and his gameobject exists). And the check he uses is "equippedCharm_40"

📎 unknown.png

rain cedar May 8, 2018, 5:58 AM

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Must be something else getting checked

compact sedge May 8, 2018, 5:59 AM

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Well there's nothing in any of the scene's FSMs, could it be in the assembly?

rain cedar May 8, 2018, 5:59 AM

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Doubt it

compact sedge May 8, 2018, 6:11 AM

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ok I fixed it I'm silly

rain cedar May 8, 2018, 6:16 AM

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Yeah?

compact sedge May 8, 2018, 6:18 AM

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well I know the fix intuitively because I wrote a unit test but give me 30 seconds to do some debugging to find the reason

rain cedar May 8, 2018, 6:19 AM

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Alright

compact sedge May 8, 2018, 6:20 AM

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I added my mod components in the wrong order so the one that was needed to fake the values should have been loaded first and not second.

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what I don't get is why the child still appeared

rain cedar May 8, 2018, 6:23 AM

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I see

compact sedge May 8, 2018, 6:34 AM

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actually that didn't work. What did was probably the stupidest hack ever.

rain cedar May 8, 2018, 6:34 AM

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So I created this component to destroy objects that get created some arbitrary amount of time after the scene is created https://pastebin.com/C70CVukU and after a short bit it just spams the second log

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Which tells me two things:
The coroutine is looping forever somehow
Destroy doesn't actually destroy things

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Neither of those make any sense

compact sedge May 8, 2018, 6:35 AM

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hmm

rain cedar May 8, 2018, 6:35 AM

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Wait why does this even compile?

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Destroy(string) makes no sense

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Fucking Unity

compact sedge May 8, 2018, 6:36 AM

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because if there's a segfault it silently ignores it

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That's been my experience working with modding

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use try I guess

rain cedar May 8, 2018, 6:38 AM

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No need, the problem is I was passing a string into Destroy

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Why that overload even exists if it just breaks things is beyond me

delicate ether May 8, 2018, 6:47 AM

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new graphics/enemies in hollow knight? much excite, very want

rain cedar May 8, 2018, 7:03 AM

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Hey for all you peeps that don't have access to #races-discussion I just put a mostly feature complete randomizer for 1.3.1.5 in the drive folder

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I had people over there play it to test it and I fixed any bugs they found, as well as ones I found, so it should in theory be good to use

high moat May 8, 2018, 8:05 AM

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So I know an entire TAS for the game is not possible, but would a frame by frame input mapper be possible if you lock the game at 60 fps?

compact sedge May 8, 2018, 8:09 AM

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Thanks for the help Seanpr, I fixed the issue thanks to you.

📎 unknown.png

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(ignore that there's two baby grimms I fixed that as well I just thought it was a funny screenshot)

rain cedar May 8, 2018, 8:12 AM

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But I didn't do anything

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@high moat Yeah, in theory. But we would have to remove all asynchronous actions and seed the RNG somehow

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It would likely require heavily modding the Unity dll

compact sedge May 8, 2018, 8:14 AM

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Sure you did, you were my rubber ducky.

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I need to order a real one

rain cedar May 8, 2018, 8:17 AM

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You know you can talk to yourself without a rubber duck, right?

compact sedge May 8, 2018, 8:17 AM

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crap

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I think you're right

high moat May 8, 2018, 8:37 AM

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Hmm I only have one specific use case rn, so the answer "Too much work, cba" is totally acceptable.

pearl sentinel May 8, 2018, 10:56 AM

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Sean, the dreamer scene for hornet and some other stuff is located in the hornet boss scene

rain cedar May 8, 2018, 10:57 AM

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Yeah, I figured that out a bit ago

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That's why I needed the delayed object destroyer

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No idea when that stuff actually loads

pearl sentinel May 8, 2018, 10:58 AM

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T believe on scene transition there's a check to additively load any scenes with _boss if they exist

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I*

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And yeah, if you remove the player data bool checks from hornet before the fight starts, ie on scene load, you can just walk through

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Though it would skip the item and dreamer scene parts

rain cedar May 8, 2018, 11:00 AM

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I'm just destroying the dreamer objects and the hornet saver one and it works fine

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Item is still there and the gate closes/opens

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Just no cutscene

pearl sentinel May 8, 2018, 11:01 AM

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Nice

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Does your thing check for nulls in the cases for our mods together?

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Since I remove the hornet saver

rain cedar May 8, 2018, 11:02 AM

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Object.Destroy(null) doesn't actually throw an error, so it's fine

pearl sentinel May 8, 2018, 11:02 AM

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Cool

rain cedar May 8, 2018, 11:03 AM

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Oh wait that would be fine even if it did

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Since I'm destroying it through a coroutine that waits for it to exist then destroys it

pearl sentinel May 8, 2018, 11:03 AM

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There's also Destroy(object,time)

rain cedar May 8, 2018, 11:04 AM

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That's good to know

pearl sentinel May 8, 2018, 11:04 AM

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I always forget about it

rain cedar May 8, 2018, 11:04 AM

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I think I like the coroutine better since it's more of a sure thing

pearl sentinel May 8, 2018, 11:04 AM

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Same

rain cedar May 8, 2018, 11:05 AM

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Although it does mean I'm running GameObject.Find every frame until it finds it, which can't be good for performance

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Like if your mod destroys it first that would just be running for the entire scene

pearl sentinel May 8, 2018, 11:05 AM

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Just run a manual deep find

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Like, using scene manager, get all root game objects

rain cedar May 8, 2018, 11:06 AM

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Is there a way to just check if a scene is loaded?

pearl sentinel May 8, 2018, 11:06 AM

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Then iterate over those using get all components in children with true to check disabled game objects

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Yeah

rain cedar May 8, 2018, 11:07 AM

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This just sounds like what your modcommon extension FindGameObject does

pearl sentinel May 8, 2018, 11:07 AM

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Scene type returned from scene manager is a structure with a few flags like isvalid, isloaded

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Yeah, it is

rain cedar May 8, 2018, 11:08 AM

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Ok I see

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I can call GetSceneByName and check isLoaded

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Probably much cheaper than GameObject.Find

pearl sentinel May 8, 2018, 11:08 AM

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Yep

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You might need to wait a frame for things to initialize, I had some weird null refs with unity when just checking is loaded

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And acting at the first moment it was true

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But maybe it was my code

rain cedar May 8, 2018, 11:10 AM

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Yeah, could be either

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I guess I'll just have to try myself and see how it works

pearl sentinel May 8, 2018, 11:11 AM

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Heh, a phrase I wish I heard from people more often

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Well, back to sleep for me. Good luck

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elderbug

rain cedar May 8, 2018, 11:12 AM

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Night

floral furnace May 8, 2018, 12:00 PM

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question, is PlayerData.instance.charmCost_x = y is only applied on new game saves?

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just like how older saves arent affected by any charm notch nerfs after an update?

rain cedar May 8, 2018, 12:02 PM

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Yeah, those ints are the entire reason the nerfs don't take effect

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But you can easily change them at runtime

floral furnace May 8, 2018, 12:03 PM

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ahh thanks

solemn rivet May 8, 2018, 1:55 PM

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okay, I'll give one last try to making the animations work for berserk mod

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after that, I'm sorry, but unless someone forks it on git, it won't see much development for a while

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I have a pretty important exam for my phd tomorrow, and I fly out of town this Friday for a convention... So I won't have much time

flat forum May 8, 2018, 4:49 PM

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What animation thing

#

Also, lots of luck on your PhD thing and convention on Friday

solemn rivet May 8, 2018, 4:54 PM

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I'm trying to make it play a short animation to indicate it's being triggered, but I give up

flat forum May 8, 2018, 4:55 PM

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Ok

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Lots of luck with the PhD thing then

solemn rivet May 8, 2018, 5:09 PM

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thanks!

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hopefully I'll pass!

#

happygrub

compact sedge May 8, 2018, 11:35 PM

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alright time to try building the modding api on the beta branch

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Do I need to rebuild the other mods as well for it or just the api?

copper nacelle May 8, 2018, 11:35 PM

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just the api

compact sedge May 8, 2018, 11:35 PM

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cool

hollow pier May 8, 2018, 11:35 PM

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dr. gradow

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big meme

copper nacelle May 8, 2018, 11:35 PM

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just copy managed folder and name it vanilla

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hit build

compact sedge May 8, 2018, 11:37 PM

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wait why is there separate instructions for mac, are the two not compatible?

copper nacelle May 8, 2018, 11:38 PM

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different folder structure output

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makes it easier for other people to install

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doesn't actually matter

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assemblies are the same

compact sedge May 8, 2018, 11:42 PM

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cool the newest github version of the modding api fixes controllers on Linux

copper nacelle May 8, 2018, 11:44 PM

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new version on drive yesterday iirc

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but nice

compact sedge May 9, 2018, 12:51 AM

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is there a function like PlayerData.instance.AddGeo that actually shows the geo being added like when you pick stuff up?

copper nacelle May 9, 2018, 12:53 AM

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HeroController.AddGeo

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big meme

compact sedge May 9, 2018, 12:53 AM

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thanks

compact sedge May 9, 2018, 1:09 AM

#

Well I just released a new version of my mod, which fixes lots of bugs and I think makes it good enough for other people to play. I'm really happy with how it came out.

https://github.com/natis1/infinitegrimm/releases/tag/0.2.1

GitHub

natis1/infinitegrimm

infinitegrimm - A Hollow Knight mod to make Grimm replayable in an endless, increasingly difficult battle.

copper nacelle May 9, 2018, 1:10 AM

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happygrub

compact sedge May 9, 2018, 1:11 AM

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Besides fixing every bug I found it also adds the following features: being able to fight with grimmchild. Being able to fight without grimmchild equipped. Gain geo after death based on your damage.

It also probably adds its own bugs but we will see.

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I personally think it's good enough to go on the drive but I would like someone else to test it before I ping Sean about it, at least to confirm it launches on Windows.

rain cedar May 9, 2018, 1:13 AM

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You don't usually have to ping me to get me to look here

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I check discord pretty frequently

compact sedge May 9, 2018, 1:13 AM

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ok

rain cedar May 9, 2018, 1:14 AM

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Well, guess I'll try it out

compact sedge May 9, 2018, 1:14 AM

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thanks

copper nacelle May 9, 2018, 1:14 AM

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also trying it out

rain cedar May 9, 2018, 1:15 AM

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Got a 106% save?

compact sedge May 9, 2018, 1:15 AM

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yeah I can post the save I tested it on

rain cedar May 9, 2018, 1:15 AM

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I deleted my casual save a bit ago on accident

copper nacelle May 9, 2018, 1:15 AM

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not 106 tho

📎 user1.dat

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but it's right before nkg

rain cedar May 9, 2018, 1:15 AM

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As long as it has the stuff that matters

compact sedge May 9, 2018, 1:15 AM

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📎 user1.dat

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this is the one I was using

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107%

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and saved in Dirtmouth

rain cedar May 9, 2018, 1:16 AM

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Cool

copper nacelle May 9, 2018, 1:21 AM

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uhh

#

i went into the grimm tent and the way to nkg is blocked

#

stuck

📎 unknown.png

rain cedar May 9, 2018, 1:21 AM

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It's open for me on the 107% save