hmm
#archived-modding-development
buoyant wasp
what's the difference in enums? cause the menu's themselves didn't change
main menu has 5 options, Start Game, Options, Achievements, Extras, Quit Game. Options has 5 options as well.
pearl sentinel
But in the modding api overwrite I don't think it has extras?
buoyant wasp
honestly, I'm wondering if the code for OnMove is the problem
it's interesting that OnMove has special coding for left/right, but not for up/down
can you compare MenuSelectable between 1.2.2.1 and 1.3.x?
pearl sentinel
Sure
floral furnace
sorry to intrude, new project under class library for starting out for HK right?
buoyant wasp
though I'd suggest using one of the example's personally
copper nacelle
^
for hell mod i didn't know what do so I cloned glass souls and changed everything
pearl sentinel
Yeah, use an example mod or my template mod (use an api example imho)
floral furnace
dunno where to fully get started but might as well try to follow you guys lmao
summer marlin
hopefully in the future the documentation will be plentyfull so starting off is easy
buoyant wasp
we started documentation, but man, i hate doing documentation, so it hasn't gone far
summer marlin
yeah its not a very enjoyable task is it
pearl sentinel
Part of what I'm trying to do with mod common is make heavily commented template/example classes. Like my example FSM replacement class.
floral furnace
yeah ill do that to prevent lines like
// I have no idea what this line does but im not removing it cuz it might screw up some stuff
tho ill probably start with baby steps like the bar that fills in and out whenever you dash/jump, ill just do the more complicated stuff like stopping your player from attacking once he depletes all his stamina soon instead
copper nacelle
tbh the second part sounds easier
floral furnace
well i dont know the commands or methods that hk has for its attack but well see soon enough i guess
buoyant wasp
k, well, 1.3.1.5 is posted. to the drive for mac/linux/windows (steam). I went ahead and kept the linux/mac separation. They are identical for dlls, but the folder structure is entirely different, so, just to make life easier
should just get @pearl sentinel added to the drive if he isn't already anyway. It's not like i'm doing anything special to post them
pearl sentinel
The Google drive?
I'm on that
@56 you added mantis gods to modlinks.xml before right?
pearl sentinel
Would you be up for helping me update the links?
copper nacelle
sure
summer marlin
would any modders possibly be interered in being commisioned to make a mod?
pearl sentinel
Since I've been juggling puppy I haven't had the time to fix the links for 1.3.1.5
pearl sentinel
New modding api
copper nacelle
oh yeah
and i think the rest is all the same, right?
because updating files keeps link
pearl sentinel
Yeah unless a mod released a separate download for 1.3.1.5
I'll add the heavy blow and boop mod later
summer marlin
ill take that as a no then
copper nacelle
should I add darkroom?
pearl sentinel
Oh yeah, def
copper nacelle
would I need to put that into the drive
or
can you just put discord direct downloads
pearl sentinel
Technically any link that goes directly to a .zip should work
The only nice thing about the drive links is they handle new version updates nicely
rain cedar
@summer marlin You're gonna have to be a lot more specific to get responses
summer marlin
I suppose thats fair
I'm looking for someone to make a mod that fixes issues with playing the game at a 21:9 aspect ratio
and am willing to pay for it (though i have no reference on what price would be suitable)
rain cedar
That's gonna be hard to get anyone to do since it's not really something you can make unless you have one of those monitors yourself
summer marlin
Id be willing to test versions if people arnt willing to mess with dsr which is respectable as dsr is a mess
pearl sentinel
Probably just UI positioning
summer marlin
Well using the hexedit to force it to 21:9 (which probably would be nicer as a seperate mod than a direct edit)
theres a few small menu issues
black bars on the sides of rooms
and thats really about it
rain cedar
Black bars are probably not too bad to fix
summer marlin
UI could be moved to the sides of the screen but thats more of a QOL than a fix
rain cedar
The camera should just be able to be given a wider "lens"
summer marlin
KDR? i think thats his name, helped me try to fix that yesterday
but it didnt work
rain cedar
KDT
summer marlin
thats it
pearl sentinel
Cameras have a viewport rect that can be set at runtime
rain cedar
Yeah, I figured
summer marlin
im more than happy to get some specific screenshots of the issues if that can help
pearl sentinel
It uses normalized coords, so it's fairly easy to mess with
summer marlin
Oh, actully
after readin what you guys have said
you may have missinterpetid the issue
the game shows as much as youd expect on the ratio, the issue is it shows abit to much
summer marlin
the camera shows to much when you go to the sides of the room, so it shows the black bars surrounding the level itself
ill take some shots now
rain cedar
Yeah, that makes sense
if (lockArea.cameraXMin < 0f)
{
this.xLockMin = 14.6f;
}
else
{
this.xLockMin = lockArea.cameraXMin;
}
if (lockArea.cameraXMax < 0f)
{
this.xLockMax = this.xLimit;
}
else
{
this.xLockMax = lockArea.cameraXMax;
}
if (lockArea.cameraYMin < 0f)
{
this.yLockMin = 8.3f;
}
else
{
this.yLockMin = lockArea.cameraYMin;
}
if (lockArea.cameraYMax < 0f)
{
this.yLockMax = this.yLimit;
}
else
{
this.yLockMax = lockArea.cameraYMax;
}```The problem here is they've got hard coded values for locking the camera
pearl sentinel
Yeah, you increased the resolution but not the camera viewport
rain cedar
They're not checking aspect ratio
rain cedar
Should just be able to multiply the x values by 21/16 and get a proper camera
copper nacelle
sean do you want me to add tenegg to modlinks
rain cedar
I don't mind, go for it
summer marlin
getting the UI issue screenshots now
pearl sentinel
Now that lifeblood is out I'll add a mod description field to crossroads next time I'm able to sit down and work on it
rain cedar
That will be much harder to fix
summer marlin
It seems like theres some jankyness with the hunters jouranl thats hidden on the 16:9 game
pearl sentinel
I wanted to have it show mod readmes like nexus mod manager does, but I can't think of a nice way to do that
summer marlin
@rain cedar can you just put some black bars on the sides?
just 2 rectangles of blacc
rain cedar
Yeah I suppose that's an option
solemn rivet
Since the inventory is drawn using canvas, shouldn't fixing the viewport also fix this?
rain cedar
Oh, it is?
solemn rivet
I thought it was
pearl sentinel
Pretty sure it is
summer marlin
Well if anyone wants to try and fix this ill happily test it, if not i could pay someone to fix it when i have the money but again, not sure how much the mod would be worth
Not many platformers let alone metroidvanias have the chance to work flawlessly on 21:9
and a game as good as this is the perfect canidate
solemn rivet
Bloodstained native 21:9 or rito
rain cedar
@summer marlin Try this file
If I don't suck at math that might work
I think the camera changes I made make sense
summer marlin
this also changes the res correct? or do i need to apply the hexedit to this
rain cedar
No you'll still have to do whatever you did before to make it 21:9
summer marlin
Alright
if you care what it is
I dont think that helps anyone tho becuase its probably found in cheat engine or whatever
rain cedar
Wait what I did doesn't make sense
summer marlin
o
rain cedar
I changed the y locking of the camera too
summer marlin
trying it anyway
rain cedar
Just check anyway to see if the x locking makes sense now
Yeah
But know that the camera height is gonna be fucked
summer marlin
:Thinking:
Its doing something alright
It has mixed results
the y is def fucked tho
lol
rain cedar
Yeah I shouldn't have changed that
summer marlin
comparison screenshots incoming
abit confused by thast first one
(ignore the very small black bar thats caused by the hexedit and not the camera itself)
wait no i think the very very small black bar is a camera issue
2many black bars
rain cedar
Ok I changed the y locking back
The second screenshot looks like the camera locking on the left side of the screen is pretty close to good
Idk about the right side
copper nacelle
rain cedar
Yeah idk about that, check the right side of that same screen again with the non-messed-up y axis
summer marlin
Y is alot better now
Right X is consistently jank though
i dont really know how to describe the jank though
rain cedar
Ok, I will just change the aspect ratio on my end to see
Searching for 398EE33F turns up this function
private void AutoScaleViewport()
{
float num = (float)Screen.width / (float)Screen.height;
float num2 = num / 1.77777779f;
float num3 = 1f + this.scaleAdjust;
Rect rect = this.tk2dcam.CameraSettings.rect;
if (num2 < 1f)
{
rect.width = 1f * num3;
rect.height = num2 * num3;
float x = (1f - rect.width) / 2f;
rect.x = x;
float y = (1f - rect.height) / 2f;
rect.y = y;
}
else
{
float num4 = 1f / num2;
rect.width = num4 * num3;
rect.height = 1f * num3;
float x2 = (1f - rect.width) / 2f;
rect.x = x2;
float y2 = (1f - rect.height) / 2f;
rect.y = y2;
}
this.tk2dcam.CameraSettings.rect = rect;
this.hudcam.rect = rect;
}```So changing some numbers in there is all the hex edit does
rain cedar
It just looks like I'm locking the camera too early on the right side
summer marlin
that sounds right
summer marlin
oo
rain cedar
Massive black bars on top/bottom are because I'm running 1080p
summer marlin
not all heros wear capes
summer marlin
fancy
rain cedar
See if it looks good
summer marlin
wow thats alot better
there are 2 small black bars though
not related to edges of the room
and small verty bars
rain cedar
Weird, I don't have those
summer marlin
what res? 2560x1080?
rain cedar
1920x1080, I don't have a 21:9 monitor
summer marlin
oh i thought you changed it earlier
my b
just to confirm
can you upload your exe
i might have fucked with it earlier, probably not the cause but id rather check before no one wastes time
rain cedar
Ok I'll pm it to you
Actually it's too big to upload without nitro, probably easier if you just verify game files
summer marlin
Oh ok
rain cedar
You'll have to put the modded assembly-csharp back in after, of course
rain cedar
Alright
summer marlin
i can go into photoshop and count the pixels of the bars for you if the numbers can help
rain cedar
It would make sense for there to be either horizontal or vertical bars if your monitor is not exactly 21:9
But I'm not sure why there would ever be both
And nah I don't think that would help
I'm gonna see if there's a way to set my monitor to a 21:9 resolution
Maybe that will make the issue happen for me as well
summer marlin
this room has issues but i think its related to the room itself and maybe is a team cherry issue
rain cedar
Oh, yeah any room that's darkish will fade to near black on the edges
Didn't think of that
Alright I can't find anything that works for forcing windows into a 21:9 resolution
summer marlin
Thanks for trying, still willing to try as many tests as you want though
rain cedar
What's this one look like? @summer marlin
rain cedar
Alright
summer marlin
Holy fucking shit its so nice
rain cedar
This is incompatible with other mods and only works for 21:9, though
I'll try to make a better version
summer marlin
Having it as a mod would make it compatible with other mods though correct? as you wouldnt need to replace the asscharp
rain cedar
Yeah, but as is the case with most very specific mods I'll have to make changes to the API first to support that possibility
summer marlin
changes that need to happen at some point anyway or
rain cedar
Idk what that is
summer marlin
also ofc in some rooms that are too small its still janky
but thats alot harder to fix
copper nacelle
this thing
rain cedar
Which small rooms? I looked in Sly's shop before and it was fine
Can I get a screenshot of what's janky?
summer marlin
its a specific type of room,
rain cedar
Oh ok I see
summer marlin
yeah
rain cedar
Yeah that is harder to fix
summer marlin
its not awful
rain cedar
I can try to prioritize locking to whichever side has transitions
That would look nicer
summer marlin
do you think moving the HUD would be difficult?
rain cedar
It's probably a bit harder, yeah, but I can look into it
It's probably drawn with canvas from an FSM somewhere
Also @copper nacelle I will try that
summer marlin
hmmmmmmmmmm
now if only the menus could be fixed
but that sounds like a pain probably
rain cedar
Nah that's the easier of the two fixes
Just have to add black bars when the menu is open
summer marlin
mhm
that wont work for the main menu though, but who uses the main menu amirite
just never quit the game like how its ment to bep layed
rain cedar
Main menu seems less important to me
summer marlin
it is
youd be shocked how janky the menus work
you dont see it becuase its cut off but
wew
rain cedar
Not surprising
The Team Cherry people aren't coders
Actually I don't think the thing you said will work for this case since I need to change hardcoded values in LateUpdate @copper nacelle
copper nacelle
couldn't you copy paste all of lateupdate into a method that hooks lateupdate
and just not call the original
like it's shitty
summer marlin
sicc methodswapping my dude
rain cedar
Yeah I guess so
What Unity really needs is a LaterUpdate
So I can do shit and have it guaranteed to be after LateUpdate
copper nacelle
lol
rain cedar
There's a problem in DebugMod because this same LateUpdate function is fighting with my own camera positioning code
copper nacelle
oof
rain cedar
Why is this even a feature?
This has no use other than fucking over modders
Like there's actually no other reason a game dev would need this
copper nacelle
to cause pain
rain cedar
Damnit there's no actual download here
Always annoying when they make you compile it yourself
copper nacelle
yeah
rain cedar
Wait I can just get it from the API source
Alright it's not generating the hooks dll and the readme says literally nothing about the hookgen
That's about the effort I'm willing to put into that, just gonna add hooks to the API
rain cedar
Go for it
copper nacelle
compiled monomod and replaced the monomod
but the line MMILRT.Modder.ShouldCleanupAttrib = IsUselessAtrib; breaks because MMILRT doesn't exist
this one
rain cedar
Maybe there's some dependency you need that's not on the github idk
rain cedar
Nice
copper nacelle
tfw fixed the line and monomod still isn't responding
copper nacelle
i think this is it
i had to run the hookgen exe on assembly-csharp by hand
y e s
it is
copper nacelle
rain cedar
I think my favorite thing about Iconoclasts is the dev is a cool guy and doesn't fuck over speedruns with his patches
summer marlin
Thanks for today sean
copper nacelle
ahh
i ran it on the wrong file
that has hooks for modding
i now have hooks for hooks
this is the right file
sterile meadow
Hey losers people I love
Is there a way to enable steel soul early and if so where's the 0 I change into a 1
sterile meadow
I just meant overall but if I have to make a new save to do it sure
copper nacelle
you could just download any save and beat thk
or you can create a save and set permadeathMode to 1/true on it
sterile meadow
Oooo that's actually the smartest thing
I forgot about downloading saves
rain cedar
Or just self impose permadeath
sterile meadow
No
rain cedar
Dang, no self control
sterile meadow
Is there anywhere in the discord with a save just before thk or am I onto googling
copper nacelle
#hk-discussion pins
sterile meadow
Aaa ty
copper nacelle
got the hooks working
it had a reference to a dll which had a reference to a dll
and another ref to a dll
throwing those and the hooks file into mods lets you use them tho
tested it with
public class TestMod : Mod
{
public override void Initialize()
{
On.HeroController.CanOpenInventory += Yes;
}
private bool Yes(On.HeroController.orig_CanOpenInventory orig, HeroController self)
{
return true;
}
}
and it worked
I think if I had compiled the API with the new MonoMod successfully then you would only need the hooks dll
but rn trying to compile the API cause monomod to stop working so you need all those
copper nacelle
yea
summer marlin
@rain cedar do you think it would be hard to do the black bar thing compared to how you fixed the camera or
rain cedar
Harder but not too bad still
I'd just have to find a good way to check if inventory is open
Since apparently the way I've been using broke with lifeblood
summer marlin
can you just check for the select button?
copper nacelle
I think you could have a lightbringer api version with this by just hooking all the methods it replaces and not calling the original
rain cedar
I don't know what you mean
summer marlin
check for the button that opens it
summer marlin
oh right
rain cedar
I'd probably add additional FSM actions into the inventory control to call methods in a MonoBehaviour that draw black bars
summer marlin
whats a fsm
rain cedar
Evil
summer marlin
i knew that
copper nacelle
threw all the hook dll stuff into 1 dll
rain cedar
What a helpful guy
floral furnace
Question, for Kerrs sample mods, I have to download the API right, cuz "using Modding" doesnt exist correct? sorry total C# and Assembly noob here
copper nacelle
you need the api, yeah
floral furnace
Aight, and i just drop it in wherever the hell the frameworks are stored in correct?
copper nacelle
if you have the api for hk installed at all you can just add a reference to it
floral furnace
I dont, i just uninstalled it like, 4 versions awhile ago during the beta, and i dont know how to reference it so yeah i just downloaded the 1.3.1.5 api
floral furnace
I see
floral furnace
copper nacelle
you're using one of the examples, right?
floral furnace
yup
copper nacelle
they probably have it set to the hk game location
floral furnace
alright deleted, and added the 1.3.1.5 api, thanks
copper nacelle
yw
summer marlin
@rain cedar do you have a vanilla csharp ass?
you might have almost fixed the main menu but it might also be placebo
rain cedar
Nah sorry I don't
summer marlin
ily bb
actully i cant tell
๐ค
@rain cedar the main menu is almost fully covered
:Thinking:
rain cedar
Oh nice the pause menu doesn't just dim things, it's an actual finite sized overlay
summer marlin
Is that good or bad
copper nacelle
Oh nice
summer marlin
Couldn't tell if it was sarcasm
exotic venture
summer marlin
im excited that full ultrawide support could actully be a thing
floral furnace
okay, should i priotize making a shitty temporary gui first? then do the stamina logic?
like a bad one in ms paint
copper nacelle
disabling dash and attack sound way easier than gui stuff imo
i should probably figure out canvasutil but also pain
floral furnace
alright, so basically ill do the entire "see your bar" later, so for now id go with a "keep slashing, until you run out and no you cant see your stamin bar because were hardcore over here" for now
copper nacelle
lol
floral furnace
wait is there no differences with all of kerr's 3 sample mods?
copper nacelle
idk
are they in modcommon?
or
the api example mods
the API example ones are all the same
except they each have different saving thingies
ex1 doesn't save
floral furnace
yeah i can see that
just me being dumb
is there any instances or mods thats been made that needs saving tho?
floral furnace
ahh yeah that makes sense
so if i ""theoretically"" make the mod have upgrades ie more stamina if you do x or something, then id need to do so or else the players stamina will set back to default correct?
copper nacelle
i mean
if the thing you want the player to do is already saved
then you can just use that
but otherwise, yeah
like if the thing you're checking for is obtaining dash, that's already a var
but like
counting dashes
isn't a var
floral furnace
ok ok
mellow tide
hello there, I'm new on this discord, is there any way to be introduce to modding?
rain cedar
The example mods here are a good starting point https://github.com/seanpr96/HollowKnight.Modding/tree/master/ExampleMods/Source
mellow tide
the 3rd mod adds critical hits in the game and count how many you did?
thanks for that but these examples just show how to do simple codes; what do I do with all that, what should I do to test the mod, how can I add assets, how do I access the game's files, etc...
I already know a fair bit about programming but I still have issues understanding how mods work, what they are and what a modder actually do, other than programming, to make it all work
I'm a bit confuse about all that so I'd like to have some explanations to get the basis
rain cedar
We use a program called dnspy to look at the game code
Testing is just done by playing the game
mellow tide
okay and where do you need to put the folder?
rain cedar
What folder?
mellow tide
correct me if I don't understand something, but what you need to do is a folder with a .css file with your code, one to save your datas, one for global settings,... and then once you finished this folder what do you do with it to make it work in the game?
mellow tide
how do you do that?
rain cedar
Visual studio
mellow tide
and then when compiled into a class library what do you do with it?
rain cedar
You stick it in your mods folder
mellow tide
sorry about all these noobs questions
okay but it's not enough to then run the mod is it?
rain cedar
It'll be loaded automatically by the mod API, if you've got that installed properly
mellow tide
oh ok
I'll check the pinned comments to get a better understanding on how to do all of this, thanks for the answers tho
is there any mod currently developped?
rain cedar
Lots, yeah
leaden hedge
if (!this.gameConfig.disableSaveGame)
{
``` did this used to be in GameManager.SaveGame(int) ?I don't think so, but I might be wrong
Also, TTacco, listen to 56. Working on bars rn might not be a good idea. Focus on getting what you want to work first. After that you can take a look at my enemyhpbar mod to get a good idea of how to draw bars
Also, might be worth checking KDT's original hpbar mod, on which mine is based
floral furnace
ahh yeah, i didnt bother with the ui first for now
hollow pier
listen to 56 kids
floral furnace
im focusing on the logic instead, but im kinda stuck with the entire "give me 5 stamina per second" because im so not used to unity's function
solemn rivet
I see
floral furnace
so far i tried using update() on a class thats extended by MonoBehavior, but i cant call the other method in the other class that holds the int currentStamina variable
solemn rivet
I have a mpregen function in bonfire, if you want to take a look
floral furnace
yeah but i didnt continue for now, was kinda getting late, but ill try to continue it tom
also most modders were offline awhile ago so i didnt continue it too far, i just ended up checking some of the source code of other mods instead
solemn rivet
Gotcha
fringe schooner
what mods work with lifeblood update right now?
inland relic
lightbringer didn't work with my game but blackmoth or bonfire works for me
copper nacelle
lightbringer hasn't been updated past 1.2.2.1
pearl sentinel
Just updated crossroads to download the 1.3.1.5 modding api
added updated enemy rando, added boop mod, added charm mod (heavy broken)
added mod common and update the dependencies for those mods
ps. if you download enemy randomizer (don't have to use it) your background will be the gods and glory background
๐
solemn rivet
My mods work, debug partially works, darkness mod works...
young walrus
BOOP MOD 
copper nacelle
lol
hollow pier
boop mod is the only mod
solemn rivet
Boop works
copper nacelle
why is everything private ahh
bronze temple
@rain cedar @copper nacelle I haven't had the time to create a README section for the MonoMod HookGen yet, and MMILRT became MonoModRule (no s), which is why the new version broke
copper nacelle
i found out the 2nd part
changed MMILRT to MonoModRule
now monomod stops working
copper nacelle
lemme grab it
wtf
works now
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
it was something like can't set x public
mono.cecil iirc
bronze temple
Oh, yeah, I've updated the Cecil dependency to the non-beta 0.10
If there's anything else I can help you with, please ping me :)
I noticed that you also managed to generate a MMHOOK_Assembly-CSharp.dll
copper nacelle
that thing is amazing
bronze temple
@copper nacelle if you want a different output assembly name, HookGen.exe Assembly-CSharp.dll Something.dll
and thanks :)
queen prawn
@fringe schooner how can i give somebody my save fie
fringe schooner
does anyone have a spare 106 or 107% savefile?
leaden hedge
%appdata%/../locallow/team cherry/hollow knight
copper nacelle
save file location is in pins, just take the file and send it to somebody
fringe schooner
but he has mac
queen prawn
ya mac
leaden hedge
~/Library/Application Support/unity.Team Cherry.Hollow Knight/
queen prawn
im kinda dumb with this stuff sorry
nothing shows up
@leaden hedge I put all that into finder no folder shows up
anybody here
@copper nacelle
copper nacelle
search for user1.dat
hollow pier
@everyone
fringe schooner
does anyone have a spare 107% savefile i can get
queen prawn
yo hey @copper nacelle im under the aplication support folder, but i dont see the unity.Team Cherry.Hollow Knight/
queen prawn
what
copper nacelle
tfw the latin worked but not the english
copper nacelle
yes
copper nacelle
command-shift-g
queen prawn
@copper nacelle
queen prawn
go to folder isnt there
copper nacelle
it doesn't matter ๐ค
if you just press the buttons
in finder
it'll pop up anyways
copper nacelle
queen prawn
same
copper nacelle
iirc you can go to terminal
type
cd ~/Library
open .
and that works
but might be wrong
queen prawn
ya
wide crown
queen prawn
same
brazen needle
I was wondering if there is the possibility of putting Traitor Lord inside the Mantis Lords' arena so they can fight each other, it'd be fun to watch
young walrus
Go do it
digital citrus
Does anyone else have a problem where the EnemyHPBar mod causes certain areas to freeze your whole pc?
copper nacelle
no
digital citrus
Weird, maybe it's the mod api or something but the game freezes everything
river tiger
Why isn't EnemyHPBar mod working?
river tiger
I installed API
But then it said denied
when I tried to install the mod from the ModInstaller
For some reason when I install try to install the mod, it installed the zip file and not the .dll
Weird... I just had to go in the Hollow Knight data and extract it on my own
copper nacelle
oh yeah
i was going to ask about that
cause kerr's doesn't support rars either
iirc
solemn rivet
@river tiger
river tiger
REEEEEEEEE
solemn rivet
re-uploaded it to a zip and changed the reference in the installer
this should work
fiery sequoia
randomizer easy is on
its only randomized charms so far, does hard so charms and enemies
fiery sequoia
oh
solemn rivet
I'll update the dl link for the installer
fiery sequoia
where do i enable enemy randomizer
is it enabled just at installation or
when i make a save or
copper nacelle
you install it
you open hk
and there's a very large enable enemy randomizer button in the top left
solemn rivet
it's another mod
river tiger
@solemn rivet Are you working on any other mods at the moment?
copper nacelle
enemy hp bars
copper nacelle
try not getting an error
fiery sequoia
[INFO]:[API] - Adding GitHub SSL Cert to Allow for Checking of Mod Versions
[INFO]:[ModManager] - Initializing
[INFO]:[ModManager] - Initialized
[ERROR]:[API] - Couldn't check for new version.System.IndexOutOfRangeException: Array index is out of range.
at Modding.ModHooks..ctor () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
[INFO]:GameLoading
[INFO]:[API] - Trying to load mods
[ERROR]:[API] - Error: System.Reflection.ReflectionTypeLoadException: The classes in the module cannot be loaded.
at (wrapper managed-to-native) System.Reflection.Assembly:GetTypes (bool)
at System.Reflection.Assembly.GetExportedTypes () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Modding.ModLoader.LoadMods () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
[INFO]:[RandomizerMod] - Instantiating Mod
[INFO]:[HPBar] - Initializing HPBars
[INFO]:[HPBar] - Initialized HPBars
[INFO]:[RandomizerMod] - Randomizer Mod initializing!
[INFO]:[RandomizerMod] - Randomizer Mod initialized!
[INFO]:[RandomizerMod] - Github = 0.0
[INFO]:Saving Global Settings
is your API uptodate?
fiery sequoia
yea installed the one from pins
solemn rivet
idk about that enemyhpbar version
but my current compilation is using experimental stuffs from the latest api
river tiger
@solemn rivet Is it possible for you to make a mod which is base solely on cosmetic?
fiery sequoia
should i just reinstall enemy randomizer
river tiger
See, I have somewhat of a fantasy...
And I think playing as a shade would be pretty cool
If it's possible...
copper nacelle
just replace a shit load of assets
copper nacelle
yes but no one would want to do it
copper nacelle
2meirl4meirl
solemn rivet
oh
copper nacelle
solemn rivet
uhhh
copper nacelle
lastest patch, newest api?
solemn rivet
can you send me your hpbarmod plz
copper nacelle
isn't his hpbar working and enemy rando not
fiery sequoia
i just reinstalled it but will do, dont see what it has to do with enemy rando but might as well
latest patch, api in pins
solemn rivet
if you try running hpbars without the experimental API, that's what happens tbh
because it uses a new hook that's not in the previous api versions
fiery sequoia
its been working for me just fine, but what would it have to do with breaking enemy rando
solemn rivet
oh
if it's working, then it should be fine
about enemy rando, idk
maybe kerr also added new hooks?
fiery sequoia
where would i get the experimental ai
copper nacelle
doesn't the pinned one have all the new hooks
copper nacelle
what were they called
solemn rivet
I know wyza accepted the pull request, but did it get added to the drive?
solemn rivet
that's a crit
dusky lion
I could very well be an idiot but do you need the mod installer to install the HPBar.dll or can you install it manually?
solemn rivet
this is KDT's hpbar btw
copper nacelle
both work
pearl sentinel
Out and about today, but drive has newest api
river tiger
Hmmm?
solemn rivet
thanks Kerr
river tiger
You want me to replace my .dl with that?
solemn rivet
yeah
pearl sentinel
Crossroads is now pointing at that
solemn rivet
should fix crits happening too often
dusky lion
Thanks but where should the .dll go?
solemn rivet
or at least, more often than they should
solemn rivet
what's the crit% supposed to be on the stat screen?
dusky lion
I'm assuming plugins.
dusky lion
I'm asking where you put the .dll for the HPbar mod.
solemn rivet
re distribute them
dusky lion
The mod is in pins.
dusky lion
Thank you!
copper nacelle
no
copper nacelle
installers can update
river tiger
The mod and the api?
river tiger
Ah
copper nacelle
.
river tiger
So uninstalling an reinstalling updates it.
Cool.
Btw, Gradow, I think spells should crit, it would be pretty neat.
solemn rivet
but mods should be up-to-date, so there's no need for that rn
river tiger
Okay.
copper nacelle
spells should crit
solemn rivet
yeah, I was actually thinking about adding that
copper nacelle
wtf
solemn rivet
because now it's possible
river tiger
...
copper nacelle
160 damage shade soul
solemn rivet
56 is a bot
river tiger
Lol
copper nacelle
288 damage
copper nacelle
what is balance
solemn rivet
that's what I found with bonfire, 56
people don't like balance and order
they like chaos and disorder
copper nacelle
true
copper nacelle
fluke pre-nerf-pre-nerf crit imo
river tiger
lol
What stat should I start upgrading first in bonfire?
It's luck, huh?
It's always luck in almost every RPG game.
copper nacelle
ds3
river tiger
ds3?
copper nacelle
tbh need a hollow facepalm emote
river tiger
^
spare crag
With the Bonfire mod, is increasing Luck supposed to decrease the amount of damage the nail deals?
It seems to have undone my strength increases
sterile valley
"I will upgrade how much luck I have in combat by dealing less damage and giving the enemy more chances to hit me"
sterile valley
private
copper nacelle
die
hollow pier
privet
copper nacelle
Blah does not contain a definition for blah and no extension method blah accepting a first argument of type Blah could be found (are you missing a using directive or an assembly reference
x100
solemn rivet
Can't you find those with the hitinstance hook?
It gives you the fsm of who is hitting and its hit parameters
(so you won't need to waste time doing reflections)
copper nacelle
oof
solemn rivet
I mean, dunno what you need those for, but might be worth a shot
river tiger
@copper nacelle Private parts :^)
Btw, @solemn rivet Blackmoth needs a lot of work...
solemn rivet
says who
fiery sequoia
@solemn rivet so whenever i dash through a metal/shield thing, the shadow dash breaks
hollow pier
hey modder the mod feels sorta weird i think you should rework the entire thing
river tiger
That's a bug.
fiery sequoia
yes
river tiger
@fiery sequoia
river tiger
Kek
fiery sequoia
and what a necessary ping
solemn rivet
that's a vanilla bug
solemn rivet
also, what metal/shield thing?
fiery sequoia
the weaver hunter things facemask
river tiger
@fiery sequoia Just go to main menu and go back into the game
That's your only solution tbh.
fiery sequoia
yea but thats gay
solemn rivet
as soon as I'm more comfortable with the whole porting fsms to code thing, I might rewrite the whole sharpshadow behaviour and fix that
solemn rivet
I mean
I'm not the only one
sean, Kerr and others are also looking into rewriting fsms into code
river tiger
fsms?
solemn rivet
actually, Kerr has done major progress in that front
river tiger
Wtf is that?
solemn rivet
he completely rewrote Hornet1 to code
solemn rivet
flowcharts, 69
river tiger
Kerr, made Hornet 1 do what exactly?
copper nacelle
exist
solemn rivet
the game's ai basically works by following flowcharts
river tiger
So...
solemn rivet
which sucks for a variety of reasons
solemn rivet
so Kerr rewrote that into actual logic
river tiger
Ah.
solemn rivet
for Hornet1, at least
river tiger
Then what did he improve?
solemn rivet
but she's now easier to handle from a coding pov
copper nacelle
rewrote imo
scenic slate
what mods work right now?
fiery sequoia
made the code easier to code
copper nacelle
no flowcharts, yeah
sterile valley
@scenic slate Enemy hp bars, debug mod works to an extent.
copper nacelle
@scenic slate blackmoth, hell mod, mantis gods, enemy hp bars, charm notch, debug, enemy rando
river tiger
What does debug mod do?
sterile valley
Oh okay 56 replied.
copper nacelle
get dusted
sterile valley
Debug mod does a lot of shit.
solemn rivet
here's superdash fsm, 69:
sterile valley
Like uh.
river tiger
Very specific Niko..
hollow pier
it debugs the game so it removes every bug
sterile valley
Noclip, invincibility, spawn geo, spawn items, change charm properties...
river tiger
@solemn rivet So that's the flowchart you were talking about?
sterile valley
@hollow pier Stop trolling, he's asking a genuine question.
solemn rivet
each one of these blocks has a check for conditions and what to do once those conditions are triggered
copper nacelle
respawn bosses, noclip, invin, spawn items, geo, skills, etc
hollow pier
wow my apologies mr big serious
river tiger
Wow
sterile valley
No offense taken, mr I desperately need validation so I keep trying to troll everyone I can.
river tiger
I didn't laugh :}
fiery sequoia
thats great
solemn rivet
chill out people
also, 69, yeah
so kerr rewrote one of those into actual C# code
and that's great for us modders
and also great for performance and stuffs
like, the BIG change from TGT to Lifeblood was that every enemy had one of those flowcharts called "health_manager" or "health_manager_enemy" (it varies seemingly randomly)
river tiger
So code is easier than flowcharts for you guys?
solemn rivet
and now, they don't
river tiger
TGT?
solemn rivet
TC rewrote the health_manager fsm into an actual component and then added that component to every enemy
solemn rivet
so performance quite literally increase dramatically
that was needed, amongst other reasons, to make the Switch port viable
solemn rivet
as it were, game ran like shit on the Switch
river tiger
You saw?
solemn rivet
nah
river tiger
Lol
river tiger
So is that why they did Lifeblood
To work on performance and etc
Before Switch release.
solemn rivet
main reason was to make a functional Switch port, yeah
solemn rivet
/s?
solemn rivet
why build it from the ground up?
solemn rivet
it's way easier and more cost-efficient to simply port the game
young walrus
If they ported what they had already, it would have run at 2 fps
river tiger
Weren't we also promised a PS Vita version of the game as well??
solemn rivet
mick is one of the inside sources, or so I heard
river tiger
WTF HAPPENED TO THAT???
young walrus
young walrus
And was it reached?
river tiger
It was.
young walrus
Pretty sure it wasnt
solemn rivet
I have no idea about that
hollow pier
hey guys abyss dlc
young walrus
They might have updated the goal and changed it to switch
river tiger
Nope.
young walrus
Based on changing eqyipment
river tiger
Nope.
hasty hull
Team Cherry decided to switch the console they were going to port it to
young walrus
Equipment
hasty hull
Yeah
river tiger
I was meaning Mickely
young walrus
Cuz originally, the switch port was gonna be wiiU
river tiger
I'm sure if you go to their Kickstarter for the game you'd see it
Not to mention "Abyss dlc"
LOL
young walrus
That wasn't met tho
hollow pier
tri too slow
void tree
void tree
roughly never
solemn rivet
0 0 f
void tree
last phase is just too hard man
hollow pier
get horheristo to do it