#archived-modding-development | Hollow Knight | Page 79

solemn rivet Apr 18, 2018, 4:39 AM

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I'd guess so

flat forum Apr 18, 2018, 4:41 AM

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does KDT plan on updating it?

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on the other hand

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the Grimm fight spawns 2 Grimms still

scenic slate Apr 18, 2018, 4:56 AM

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was playing boss rush and I beat NKG and its not letting me select radiance

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also everything went pitch black after beating NKG

leaden lintel Apr 18, 2018, 5:23 AM

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Double grimm, double level of grimmchild (?)

granite bough Apr 18, 2018, 7:02 AM

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does the debug mod let you set your health?

rain cedar Apr 18, 2018, 7:04 AM

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Kinda

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The infinite hp cheat just locks your health where it is already

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Doesn't max it

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So you can use that to practice fury bosses

granite bough Apr 18, 2018, 7:05 AM

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but nothin to let you set it to say, 1?

rain cedar Apr 18, 2018, 7:05 AM

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Get hit a few times first

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I guess that's a bit inconvenient but eh fury is a meme anyway

rapid hamlet Apr 18, 2018, 10:36 AM

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How do you open the .java files in the save editor?

exotic venture Apr 18, 2018, 10:37 AM

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you just open up the base .jar

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just run it with java

rapid hamlet Apr 18, 2018, 10:38 AM

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I see no .jar?

exotic venture Apr 18, 2018, 10:39 AM

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what

📎 unknown.png

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you should have a jar

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did you download the source code instead

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whatever, here take mine

📎 HKSMv0.3.0.jar

rapid hamlet Apr 18, 2018, 10:40 AM

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https://github.com/KayDeeTee/Hollow-Knight-SaveManager

GitHub

KayDeeTee/Hollow-Knight-SaveManager

Hollow-Knight-SaveManager - Manage and edit Hollow Knight saves

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I dont see it in there either

exotic venture Apr 18, 2018, 10:40 AM

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you downloaded the source code

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not the package

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nice

rapid hamlet Apr 18, 2018, 10:40 AM

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Ah

exotic venture Apr 18, 2018, 10:40 AM

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https://github.com/KayDeeTee/Hollow-Knight-SaveManager/releases/tag/v0.3.0 this is where you should look

GitHub

KayDeeTee/Hollow-Knight-SaveManager

Hollow-Knight-SaveManager - Manage and edit Hollow Knight saves

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but i also sent it in discord so w/e

rapid hamlet Apr 18, 2018, 10:41 AM

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Thanks haha

rapid hamlet Apr 18, 2018, 11:08 AM

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I cant get my changes to save

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hm

exotic venture Apr 18, 2018, 11:16 AM

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file -> save

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dunq

solemn rivet Apr 18, 2018, 12:07 PM

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Yeah, idk what happened, but when I tried using the editor last night, all my saves became invalid. Like, they're still there, but the game and the save editor won't recognize them anymore

solemn rivet Apr 18, 2018, 1:46 PM

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  at (wrapper managed-to-native) UnityEngine.JsonUtility:FromJson (string,System.Type)
  at UnityEngine.JsonUtility.FromJson[SaveGameData] (System.String json) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 
  at GameManager.GetSaveStatsForSlot (Int32 saveSlot) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 
 
(Filename: C:/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/generated/common/runtime/UnityEngineDebugBindings.gen.cpp Line: 42)```

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noot

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I mean, if it works for everyone else, seems to be a problem on my end then

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but how can a parse error be a problem on my end?

exotic venture Apr 18, 2018, 1:55 PM

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could you send the savefile?

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might just be that messed up

solemn rivet Apr 18, 2018, 1:56 PM

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but, here's the thing, it did that to every save file

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and when I restored from backup and tried again, it did it again

exotic venture Apr 18, 2018, 1:56 PM

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uh

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have you tried the verify game integrity trick

solemn rivet Apr 18, 2018, 1:57 PM

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I tried running on earlier versions of the save editor too, but no deal

exotic venture Apr 18, 2018, 1:57 PM

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which magically solves all problems

solemn rivet Apr 18, 2018, 1:57 PM

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well, aside from that, game runs fine

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it's weird tho

exotic venture Apr 18, 2018, 1:57 PM

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oh wait this is the savefile editor giving you this?

solemn rivet Apr 18, 2018, 1:57 PM

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I open the editor, select the save folder and then, BAM, all saves corrupted

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yup

exotic venture Apr 18, 2018, 1:58 PM

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huh

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i have no clue

solemn rivet Apr 18, 2018, 2:02 PM

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yeah

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I'll just ask KDT when he's available

pearl sentinel Apr 18, 2018, 2:49 PM

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Iirc recent beta updates changed the format of the save files slightly. Idk if this is specifically relevant to what you're looking at tho

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Have a puppy pic tho

📎 JPEG_20180418_074947.jpg

exotic venture Apr 18, 2018, 2:50 PM

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awwww

pearl sentinel Apr 18, 2018, 2:51 PM

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📎 JPEG_20180418_075123.jpg

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One more bc that one was blurry

solemn rivet Apr 18, 2018, 2:52 PM

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puppy pics fyeah

exotic venture Apr 18, 2018, 2:52 PM

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this is what #archived-modding-development is made for tbh

mellow oyster Apr 18, 2018, 2:52 PM

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Confused pup

solemn rivet Apr 18, 2018, 2:53 PM

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Here be kitteh pics as well

📎 IMG_20180417_221201655_HDR.jpg 📎 IMG_20180417_221155726.jpg

pearl sentinel Apr 18, 2018, 2:54 PM

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Daww

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salubra

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mylajoy

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Thoughts on the names Kirby, Pixel, or Blaze?

solemn rivet Apr 18, 2018, 2:56 PM

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how much does he eat?

leaden hedge Apr 18, 2018, 2:57 PM

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dog one

solemn rivet Apr 18, 2018, 2:57 PM

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doggone

pearl sentinel Apr 18, 2018, 2:59 PM

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He's a corgi, they love food

solemn rivet Apr 18, 2018, 2:59 PM

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Kirby den

hollow pier Apr 18, 2018, 4:20 PM

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good cat

pearl sentinel Apr 18, 2018, 4:23 PM

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salubra

solemn rivet Apr 18, 2018, 4:29 PM

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sleepy cat is always good cat

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@leaden hedge did you see what I posted earlier about the save editor?

vagrant leaf Apr 18, 2018, 5:00 PM

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wow nice #archived-modding-development

exotic venture Apr 18, 2018, 5:03 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/411965524335919104/435196277635153920/IMG-20180414-WA00011.jpg #archived-modding-development more like #cute-animals

solemn rivet Apr 18, 2018, 5:04 PM

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best channel

vagrant leaf Apr 18, 2018, 5:05 PM

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mys can we delet modding and replace it with #cute-animals thx

exotic venture Apr 18, 2018, 5:06 PM

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dunno ask benji or simo tbh

vagrant leaf Apr 18, 2018, 5:08 PM

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@ admin please replace kthx

leaden hedge Apr 18, 2018, 5:19 PM

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yes i saw it @solemn rivet not looked into it

solemn rivet Apr 18, 2018, 5:19 PM

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oh, ok

exotic venture Apr 18, 2018, 5:27 PM

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oh btw is there an api for the latest patch available yet

solemn rivet Apr 18, 2018, 5:29 PM

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what patch we in

young walrus Apr 18, 2018, 5:29 PM

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1.3.1.2 iirc

exotic venture Apr 18, 2018, 5:32 PM

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yup

leaden hedge Apr 18, 2018, 5:33 PM

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i thought 1.3.1.1 was the release candidate 🤔

exotic venture Apr 18, 2018, 5:33 PM

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lemme check

leaden hedge Apr 18, 2018, 5:33 PM

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current patch is 1.3.1.2

exotic venture Apr 18, 2018, 5:35 PM

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yup

sterile valley Apr 18, 2018, 6:05 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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some modding mistakes can actually get kind of hilarious

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@solemn rivet

digital citrus Apr 18, 2018, 6:06 PM

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Are the Bonfire and HPBars mods getting updated anytime soon?

sterile valley Apr 18, 2018, 6:06 PM

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Gradow's working on an hpbar mod

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That works for all enemies, not only bosses

digital citrus Apr 18, 2018, 6:06 PM

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Oh sweet, would you mind helping me out for a second?

sterile valley Apr 18, 2018, 6:06 PM

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hmm?

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I'm the one who provided the art for the actual hpbar, hand drawn, btw

digital citrus Apr 18, 2018, 6:07 PM

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Oh alright, let me just ask you and see if you know anything lol

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The game keeps crashing on me for some reason, I only replaced the sharply file and added no mods

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Crashing on startup btw

sterile valley Apr 18, 2018, 6:07 PM

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validate game files

digital citrus Apr 18, 2018, 6:07 PM

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Nvm not sharply lol

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Assembly-CSharp.dll

sterile valley Apr 18, 2018, 6:08 PM

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Validate your game files

solemn rivet Apr 18, 2018, 6:08 PM

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which API are you using and which game version are you on?

digital citrus Apr 18, 2018, 6:08 PM

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I am suing the API that came with the Bonfire mod

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I am on the latest patch, can't check which one atm

young walrus Apr 18, 2018, 6:08 PM

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"latest patch"

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beta?

sterile valley Apr 18, 2018, 6:08 PM

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Validate your game files, install Crossroads and install the modding API through it, download the bonfire mod manually, go to your hollow knight directory and install the bonfire mod manually too, I think

young walrus Apr 18, 2018, 6:08 PM

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or non-beta

digital citrus Apr 18, 2018, 6:08 PM

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Non beta

young walrus Apr 18, 2018, 6:09 PM

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then you installed it wrong. cuz bonfire has worked on 1.2.2.1 for forever

digital citrus Apr 18, 2018, 6:10 PM

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Huh, the mod folder doens't show any .zip with 1.2.2.1

young walrus Apr 18, 2018, 6:10 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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📎 unknown.png

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use the API labeled one

digital citrus Apr 18, 2018, 6:11 PM

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📎 explorer_2018-04-18_20-11-12.png

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That's really weird

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I donwloaded the whole folder

young walrus Apr 18, 2018, 6:11 PM

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says API on it

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use that one

digital citrus Apr 18, 2018, 6:11 PM

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Yeah gotcha

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My apologies then

young walrus Apr 18, 2018, 6:11 PM

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the ones before that were standalone

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then was ported to API

digital citrus Apr 18, 2018, 6:14 PM

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Btw Mickely, what is new in the beta if I may ask?

young walrus Apr 18, 2018, 6:14 PM

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compared to....

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current release?

digital citrus Apr 18, 2018, 6:14 PM

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1.2.2.1

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Yeah

young walrus Apr 18, 2018, 6:15 PM

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one new boss, and a bunch of optimizations

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and removal of a ton of glitches

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but a bunch is bugged

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like.... achievements

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and cutscenes. though i think they've fixed the cutscenes now?

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and some balancing changes

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like nerfing basically everything

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and then buffing Traitor Lord

digital citrus Apr 18, 2018, 6:16 PM

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Oh alright, thank you ^^

pearl sentinel Apr 18, 2018, 6:29 PM

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I'll make a 1312 build tonight unless someone else wants to download my fork of the api from github and do it before then

exotic venture Apr 18, 2018, 6:29 PM

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i think you're our lord and savior at this point

pearl sentinel Apr 18, 2018, 6:30 PM

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elderbug

exotic venture Apr 18, 2018, 6:30 PM

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༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ SEND US MODDING API ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ

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that broke kek

pearl sentinel Apr 18, 2018, 6:31 PM

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I need to go home and check on pupper in a bit so maybe I can do that then

sterile valley Apr 18, 2018, 6:45 PM

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📎 ModLog.txt

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The second guy was killed using fury of the fallen.

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This game doesn't count fury of the fallen's extra damage as nail damage.

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It's probably a multiplier, but the multiplier is 0..?

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Gradow's scratching his head over this trying to fix it and I'm trying to be useful but I'm failing at it.

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Do you think you guys can be?

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As in... do you think you can help out a little with this?

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What kind of damage does fury of the fallen add ontop of the normal one?

exotic venture Apr 18, 2018, 6:49 PM

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it adds a multiplier

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of i think 1.75

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don't quote me on that

solemn rivet Apr 18, 2018, 6:51 PM

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it does, but I have no idea how

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the slash fsm still does default damage, even with fotf

exotic venture Apr 18, 2018, 6:52 PM

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isn't the slash fsm just nail dmg fsm

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you can check debug mod for that

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maybe you need to add the multiplier dmg to that slash dmg

solemn rivet Apr 18, 2018, 6:53 PM

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but when I print the multiplier, it's set to 0

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wait, that strange

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if that was the case, then damage would be 0

exotic venture Apr 18, 2018, 6:54 PM

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because it adds to the base dmg

solemn rivet Apr 18, 2018, 6:54 PM

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oh, ffs

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TC why

exotic venture Apr 18, 2018, 6:55 PM

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BECAUSE THEY CAN

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poor coding job remember

solemn rivet Apr 18, 2018, 6:55 PM

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so, here's sharpshadow's "damageDealt" value

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sharpShadowFSM.FsmVariables.GetFsmInt("damageDealt").Value

exotic venture Apr 18, 2018, 6:55 PM

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yes

solemn rivet Apr 18, 2018, 6:55 PM

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and here's super dash's

exotic venture Apr 18, 2018, 6:55 PM

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it is seperate form nail dmg

solemn rivet Apr 18, 2018, 6:55 PM

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superDash.FsmVariables.GetFsmInt("DamageDealt").Value

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spot the difference

exotic venture Apr 18, 2018, 6:55 PM

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LUL

copper nacelle Apr 18, 2018, 6:55 PM

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Capitalization

solemn rivet Apr 18, 2018, 6:55 PM

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smh

exotic venture Apr 18, 2018, 6:56 PM

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excellent

solemn rivet Apr 18, 2018, 6:56 PM

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how is this game even able to function properly?!?!?

copper nacelle Apr 18, 2018, 6:56 PM

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🍝

solemn rivet Apr 18, 2018, 6:56 PM

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btw, those fsms still exist in lifeblood

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they were not removed

flat forum Apr 18, 2018, 6:56 PM

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Hey

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How did you make NGG spawn 2 Grimms at once?

hollow pier Apr 18, 2018, 6:56 PM

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it is seperate form nail dmg

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pls fix

exotic venture Apr 18, 2018, 6:57 PM

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you dont want to look at nail arts dmg

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that is a mess

solemn rivet Apr 18, 2018, 6:57 PM

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okay, so

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new idea

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how can I check that an enemy is still alive after I hit it?

copper nacelle Apr 18, 2018, 6:58 PM

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check if the game object is not null

exotic venture Apr 18, 2018, 6:58 PM

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^

copper nacelle Apr 18, 2018, 6:58 PM

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and not destroyed

solemn rivet Apr 18, 2018, 6:58 PM

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does the game actually destroy the object?

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ok then...

copper nacelle Apr 18, 2018, 6:58 PM

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I'd assume so

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but this is hk

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so idk

solemn rivet Apr 18, 2018, 6:59 PM

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ok then

copper nacelle Apr 18, 2018, 6:59 PM

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@flat forum you can check kdt's GitHub

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@solemn rivet debug seems to check for obj == null | !obj.activeSelf

hollow pier Apr 18, 2018, 7:01 PM

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github more like gitgud haha

copper nacelle Apr 18, 2018, 7:01 PM

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if it's null it removes it

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otherwise if moves the hpbar I think

solemn rivet Apr 18, 2018, 7:02 PM

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            {
                ModHooks.Instance.OnGetEventSenderHook -= Instance_OnGetEventSenderHook;
                EnemyHPBar.enemies.Remove(gameObject.name);
                canvasGroup.alpha = 0;
                Destroy(this);
            }```

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I'll try this

copper nacelle Apr 18, 2018, 7:02 PM

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why do you have a weird equals

solemn rivet Apr 18, 2018, 7:02 PM

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ehh

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I read on the interwebs it's best to compare nulls like that

hollow pier Apr 18, 2018, 7:02 PM

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equal equality pls

copper nacelle Apr 18, 2018, 7:03 PM

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it overrides ==

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so that you can use it with game objects when they aren't null

solemn rivet Apr 18, 2018, 7:03 PM

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noot

copper nacelle Apr 18, 2018, 7:03 PM

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that's why ?? doesnt work

solemn rivet Apr 18, 2018, 7:03 PM

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wait what

copper nacelle Apr 18, 2018, 7:03 PM

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because they couldn't override it

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yeah

solemn rivet Apr 18, 2018, 7:03 PM

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wtf

copper nacelle Apr 18, 2018, 7:04 PM

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it's apparently for better error messages or some shit

solemn rivet Apr 18, 2018, 7:04 PM

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you can't ?? gameobjects?

copper nacelle Apr 18, 2018, 7:04 PM

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iirc someone was having problems with that

solemn rivet Apr 18, 2018, 7:04 PM

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ffs

copper nacelle Apr 18, 2018, 7:04 PM

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might have been sean

solemn rivet Apr 18, 2018, 7:04 PM

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well

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anyways, I guess that should work

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will also add that activeSelf check

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just to be safe

copper nacelle Apr 18, 2018, 7:05 PM

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idk what that's for

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it checks for null again right after

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and if it's not null has a vector -1000 -1000 thing

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for the hpbar

pearl sentinel Apr 18, 2018, 7:40 PM

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Check out enemy randomizer checks for dead or living enemies

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If you wanna see how I do that

flint zenith Apr 18, 2018, 8:41 PM

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is there any sort of multiplayer mod for hollow knight whatsoever

young walrus Apr 18, 2018, 8:42 PM

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dream shield co-op

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otherwise, no

flint zenith Apr 18, 2018, 8:50 PM

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ok thanks

pearl sentinel Apr 18, 2018, 8:54 PM

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📎 ModdingAPI_1.3.1.2_beta.zip

exotic venture Apr 18, 2018, 8:55 PM

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i'm actually about to go to bed so lemme just

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there we go

copper nacelle Apr 18, 2018, 9:00 PM

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modders can pin 🤔

hazy sentinel Apr 18, 2018, 9:00 PM

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modders can unpin intenseface

hollow pier Apr 18, 2018, 9:01 PM

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but mystery isnt a modder how can they pin

pearl sentinel Apr 18, 2018, 9:14 PM

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It was hard to squeeze that in during puppy lunch break

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No changes to any game logic code. Just some timer and cinematic video stuff

solemn rivet Apr 18, 2018, 9:58 PM

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https://puu.sh/A5Z1l/9b994dc07a.mp4

▶ Play video

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hypu

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thanks to @sterile valley for the hpbar graphics

hazy sentinel Apr 18, 2018, 9:58 PM

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wtf

odd radish Apr 18, 2018, 9:59 PM

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this i like

solemn rivet Apr 18, 2018, 10:01 PM

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this is for 1.2.2.1

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but easily updatable to 1.3.x

copper nacelle Apr 18, 2018, 10:10 PM

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nice

solemn rivet Apr 18, 2018, 10:12 PM

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code is fugly btw

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cause I had to keep bashing my head against a pile of bricks till it worked

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I have to do cleanup later

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but I'm too tired for it rn

odd radish Apr 18, 2018, 10:13 PM

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excited that this exists

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nice gradow!

solemn rivet Apr 18, 2018, 10:13 PM

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if anyone wants to give this a shot in 1.2.2.1

📎 EnemyHPBar.dll

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(it uses health_manager fsms, that's why it won't work on 1.3.x)

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if people want me to, I'll try porting it to lifeblood tomorrow

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but too tired rn

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 12:01 AM

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ok, so, question

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I'm iterating over a dictionary

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and I want to delete each entry after the iteration

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so I just put dict.Remove(entry.Key);and it works

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except it doesn't

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are the entries pooled before iteration?

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foreach (KeyValuePair<string, ComponentHPBar> hpbar in hpbars)
{
    if (GameObject.Find(hpbar.Key) == null || !GameObject.Find(hpbar.Key).activeSelf)
    {
        Log($@"Cleaning up after {hpbar.Key}");
        EventInfo ei = ModHooks.Instance.GetType().GetEvent("OnGetEventSenderHook", BindingFlags.Instance | BindingFlags.Public);
        if (ei != null)
        {
            Delegate handler = Delegate.CreateDelegate(ei.EventHandlerType, hpbar.Value, "Instance_OnGetEventSenderHook");
            ei.RemoveEventHandler(ModHooks.Instance, handler);
        }
        try
        {
            hpbar.Value.canvasGroup.alpha = 0;
        }
        catch
        {
            Log("Error while cleaning canvas");
        }
        UnityEngine.Object.Destroy(hpbar.Value);
        enemies.Remove(hpbar.Key);
        hpbars.Remove(hpbar.Key);
        Log($@"Finished cleaning up after {hpbar.Key}");
    }
}```

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and it logs just fine

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[INFO]:[EnemyHPBar] - Finished cleaning up after Climber 1```

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but then, right after that, I get an NRE

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 12:26 AM

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nvm got it

rain cedar Apr 19, 2018, 12:37 AM

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You never want to modify a structure while looping it with a foreach

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Always make a copy using ToList or something similar

copper nacelle Apr 19, 2018, 12:38 AM

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TIL

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 12:39 AM

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yup, that's what I did

slender spear Apr 19, 2018, 12:41 AM

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that HP bar mod is epic af

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gj

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 12:42 AM

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it's still got a ways to go

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rn some enemies' hpbars linger after dead

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dunno why

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only some enemies, no others

rain cedar Apr 19, 2018, 12:42 AM

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Internally a foreach works something like this

using (List<T>.Enumerator enumerator = someList.GetEnumerator())
{
    while (enumerator.MoveNext())
    {
        T thing = enumerator.Current;
         //Do stuff with thing
    }
}```

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 12:42 AM

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for some reason, the game doesn't treat them as dead

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oh

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yeah, I figured it was something like that

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but, yeah, I have a list of every enemy with an active hpbar, and I check that list for enemies that are dead (i.e. their objects are null or activeSelf is false) and, if they are, I delete the bar component, unsubscribe them and delete their canvas

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but...

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some enemies don't go through that loop, for some reason

copper nacelle Apr 19, 2018, 12:45 AM

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isn't there an isDead or something

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that might be on the new health manager

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 12:45 AM

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I'll show you an example rq

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https://puu.sh/A64eP/19194959ad.mp4

▶ Play video

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here's the log:

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[INFO]:Entry: Climber 1 - 8 - -1
[INFO]:Climber 1's HP = 8
[INFO]:Fill Amount - 1
[INFO]:[EnemyHPBar] - Enemies: Climber 1
[INFO]:Enemy Climber 1 HP = 8
[INFO]:[EnemyHPBar] - Cleaning up after Climber 1
[INFO]:[EnemyHPBar] - Finished cleaning up after Climber 1
[INFO]:Creating canvas for Buzzer
[INFO]:Entry: Buzzer - 8 - -1
[INFO]:Buzzer's HP = 8
[INFO]:Fill Amount - 1
[INFO]:[EnemyHPBar] - Enemies: Buzzer
[INFO]:Enemy Buzzer HP = 8```

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notice how it doesn't clean up after the Buzzer

copper nacelle Apr 19, 2018, 12:47 AM

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buzzer lives forever

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 12:47 AM

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I have no idea why

copper nacelle Apr 19, 2018, 12:47 AM

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isn't there a state for death

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 12:47 AM

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for the hero, yeah

copper nacelle Apr 19, 2018, 12:47 AM

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oof

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 12:47 AM

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dunno for enemies

copper nacelle Apr 19, 2018, 12:48 AM

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could've sworn there was one for enemies in health_manager

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might be remembering wrong

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 12:48 AM

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oh, you're talkin an fsm state

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hm... Dunno

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won't hurt to look tho

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brb

fiery sequoia Apr 19, 2018, 12:49 AM

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blackmoth machine broken

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it just stopped hitting things

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 12:50 AM

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uhhhh

📎 unknown.png

copper nacelle Apr 19, 2018, 12:50 AM

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good state name

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 12:51 AM

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so, there's a Send Death state

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📎 unknown.png

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PlayMakerFSM hm = FSMUtility.LocateFSM(fsm.GameObject, "health_manager") ?? FSMUtility.LocateFSM(fsm.GameObject, "health_manager_enemy");
if (!Equals(hm, null) && Equals(fsm.GameObject.GetComponent<ComponentHPBar>(), null))
{                
    enemies.Add(fsm.GameObject.name, new int[2] { hm.FsmVariables.GetFsmInt("HP").Value, -1 });
    ComponentHPBar hp = fsm.GameObject.AddComponent<ComponentHPBar>();
    hpbars.Add(fsm.GameObject.name, hp);
    hp.Instance_OnGetEventSenderHook(go, fsm);
    Log($@"Enemies: {String.Join(",\n", enemies.Keys.ToArray())}");
}```

#

but when I tell it to print enemies...

#

[INFO]:Entry: Climber 1 - 8 - -1

#

so you'd think that the enemy doesn't have a hm.FsmVariables.GetFsmInt("HP").Value

#

but no, all calculations are done using that, and, for Climber 1, it works fine

#

kek

#

[INFO]:Error while running OnGetEventSenderHook for enemy Crossroads Pole Fancy

#

when I kill the Buzzer

#

wtf

#

https://puu.sh/A64Dm/a838d036f5.mp4

copper nacelle Apr 19, 2018, 1:09 AM

#

tf

rain cedar Apr 19, 2018, 1:12 AM

#

If FSM has MonoBehaviour/GameObject in its inheritance that won't work

#

Idk if it does, though

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 1:13 AM

#

why won't that work?

copper nacelle Apr 19, 2018, 1:14 AM

#

unity == override

#

probably

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 1:15 AM

#

got it

#

wait, no

#

nvm

copper nacelle Apr 19, 2018, 1:16 AM

#

https://blogs.unity3d.com/2014/05/16/custom-operator-should-we-keep-it/

rain cedar Apr 19, 2018, 1:16 AM

#

Basic idea of that is null objects aren't null so things that aren't overridden break

copper nacelle Apr 19, 2018, 1:16 AM

#

like ??

rain cedar Apr 19, 2018, 1:16 AM

#

Like ?? and Equals

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 1:17 AM

#

hm... But that's not the issue here

hollow pier Apr 19, 2018, 1:17 AM

#

56 missed opportunity to say like ???

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 1:17 AM

#

because it is getting the buzzer enemy

copper nacelle Apr 19, 2018, 1:18 AM

#

does the check for dead use ?? or Equals tho

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 1:18 AM

#

I think the issue is that there's not "Buzzer object"

#

foreach (KeyValuePair<string, ComponentHPBar> hpbar in hpbars)
{
    if (GameObject.Find(hpbar.Key) == null || !GameObject.Find(hpbar.Key).activeSelf)
    {
        Log($@"Cleaning up after {hpbar.Key}");
        EventInfo ei = ModHooks.Instance.GetType().GetEvent("OnGetEventSenderHook", BindingFlags.Instance | BindingFlags.Public);
        if (ei != null)
        {
            Delegate handler = Delegate.CreateDelegate(ei.EventHandlerType, hpbar.Value, "Instance_OnGetEventSenderHook");
            ei.RemoveEventHandler(ModHooks.Instance, handler);
        }
        try
        {
            hpbar.Value.canvasGroup.alpha = 0;
        }
        catch
        {
            Log("Error while cleaning canvas");
        }
        UnityEngine.Object.Destroy(hpbar.Value);
        dedList.Add(hpbar.Key);
    }
}```

#

nope

#

it uses == tho

#

GameObject.Find(hpbar.Key) == null

copper nacelle Apr 19, 2018, 1:19 AM

#

dedList

#

10/10

rain cedar Apr 19, 2018, 1:19 AM

#

Just check the enemy hp as a failsafe

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 1:19 AM

#

but, can I check it if it's null?

rain cedar Apr 19, 2018, 1:19 AM

#

If it's null they're probably dead

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 1:20 AM

#

but Buzzer, for some reason, never triggers that check

#

and some other enemies

#

I can try checking hp...

rain cedar Apr 19, 2018, 1:22 AM

#

Do it when you update the hp image

#

If hp <= 0 instead of updating delete self

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 1:23 AM

#

I was doing that

#

but getting nre's

#

because the parent object was gone, since enemy dies before I can do that

copper nacelle Apr 19, 2018, 1:24 AM

#

if not null then check maybe?

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 1:25 AM

#

also, OnGetEventSenderHook returns HP right before the damage is dealt

#

so, technically, HP is never <= 0

copper nacelle Apr 19, 2018, 1:26 AM

#

oof

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 1:26 AM

#

so what I was doing was

#

if HP - damage <= 0 , kill hpbar

#

but I can't get damage reliably

#

I was trying FSMUtility.LocateFSM(go, "damages_enemy").FsmVariables.GetFsmInt("DamageDealt").Value

#

but, for instance, it always returned the same value for both nail and fotf nail

#

so some enemies broke

#

so, back on that override thin

#

is == more reliable than Equal?

copper nacelle Apr 19, 2018, 1:32 AM

#

for anything that derives from Unity.Object i think it is

#

because it returns true for destroyed stuff

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 1:33 AM

#

hmm

copper nacelle Apr 19, 2018, 1:35 AM

#

is using the free copy of unity editor good for anything

#

or is visual studio just better

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 1:36 AM

#

I don't know how to unity

#

neither do I know how to vs

#

so I vs

copper nacelle Apr 19, 2018, 1:37 AM

#

lol

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 2:13 AM

#

I think it might have something to do with the fact that there's another Buzzer in the scene

#

and it's also called buzzer

#

contrary to spitter, which are called Spitter and Spitter (1)

#

Climber 1, Climber 2

copper nacelle Apr 19, 2018, 2:14 AM

#

could test it by duping an enemy

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 2:14 AM

#

hm...

#

I think I'll pool all enemies on scene load

#

so then I'll get no duplicates

#

problem with that, is that I can't add bars to enemies that spawn after scene load

copper nacelle Apr 19, 2018, 2:15 AM

#

do both

#

~~and hope the ones after scene load aren't duplicates~~

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 2:16 AM

#

[INFO]:[EnemyHPBar] - Cleaning up after Buzzer
[INFO]:[EnemyHPBar] - Finished cleaning up after Buzzer

#

yup, when I kill the second buzzer, the bar disappears

#

smh

#

how to differentiate between the two - pray tell?

#

maybe they're tagged different?

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 3:04 AM

#

okay, i'll compary instanceId's

#

ugh

copper nacelle Apr 19, 2018, 3:05 AM

#

tfw new public beta

#

again

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 3:08 AM

#

yup

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 3:34 AM

#

ok

#

good news, I fixed it

#

bad news, I think I might actually be stupid

#

instead of finding gameObject by name

#

why not reference the object directly?

#

I can simply save it when I add the HPBar to it

#

objects.Add(fsm.GameObjectName, fsm.GameObject);

#

poof

#

it works

#

📎 EnemyHPBar.dll

#

[INFO]:[EnemyHPBar] - Finished cleaning up after Buzzer```best words to read in a log

vagrant leaf Apr 19, 2018, 3:50 AM

#

does it like

#

work

rain cedar Apr 19, 2018, 3:50 AM

#

No

#

He said "I fixed it" then posted a download because it's still broken

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 4:06 AM

#

so far, it seems it only breaks for some of the annoying flukes

#

and for some reason the puffybois in the sewer have their bars in the bottom of the screen, instead of following them

#

but that's... Good enough for now

leaden hedge Apr 19, 2018, 4:53 AM

#

have you tried

#

void OnDestroy(){
    Destroy(this.hpbar);
}

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 5:06 AM

#

I thought of that, but where would I put it? It would have to be on the enemy itself, but... How can I add stuff to a gameObject's OnDestroy/Disable?

pearl sentinel Apr 19, 2018, 5:18 AM

#

Is your hpbar a component?

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 5:19 AM

#

Yup

pearl sentinel Apr 19, 2018, 5:20 AM

#

Then just like update, your component can have on destroy triggered when it or the object it's on is destroyed

wide crown Apr 19, 2018, 5:21 AM

#

as soon as api update is released another update comes in cryla

#

hey kerr

pearl sentinel Apr 19, 2018, 5:22 AM

#

Hm. 1.3.1.3?

hazy sentinel Apr 19, 2018, 5:22 AM

#

1.3.1.5

pearl sentinel Apr 19, 2018, 5:22 AM

#

thinkgrub

copper nacelle Apr 19, 2018, 5:22 AM

#

hk versioning makes sense

hazy sentinel Apr 19, 2018, 5:22 AM

#

skipped a few numbers there

pearl sentinel Apr 19, 2018, 5:22 AM

#

Just means they caught a bunch of last minute bugs when making builds

#

Happens at work all the time

hazy sentinel Apr 19, 2018, 5:23 AM

#

1.3.1.35 when

pearl sentinel Apr 19, 2018, 5:23 AM

#

Make a build that seems fine, someone comes in and goes, "wait we missed a thing"... well, time to start another build

hazy sentinel Apr 19, 2018, 5:24 AM

#

tbh keep build number the same

wide crown Apr 19, 2018, 5:26 AM

#

1.3.1.3.5.6.7.beta.alpha.groudon when?

pearl sentinel Apr 19, 2018, 5:30 AM

#

Update added some new FSM Actions (yay...)

#

ScaleTo
ScaleToCurves
SendEventToGameObjectOptimized

#

fixed some bugs (i assume) with the new DamageEnemies component

rain cedar Apr 19, 2018, 5:31 AM

#

Lol

#

FSM that claims to be optimized

#

That's a new one

pearl sentinel Apr 19, 2018, 5:32 AM

#

added a check to the hero controller's FixedUpdate (this)

#


        if (this.cState.dead)
        {
            this.rb2d.velocity = new Vector2(0f, 0f);
        }

rain cedar Apr 19, 2018, 5:32 AM

#

That doesn't really change much

pearl sentinel Apr 19, 2018, 5:32 AM

#

yea

#

a bunch of FSMActions with Awake() methods had those methods removed and some had OnPreProcess() methods added

#

example old:



        public override void Awake()
        {
            base.Fsm.HandleFixedUpdate = true;
        }

#

new:


        public override void OnPreprocess()
        {
            base.OnPreprocess();
            base.Fsm.HandleFixedUpdate = true;
        }

#

a basically nothing else changed

rain cedar Apr 19, 2018, 5:34 AM

#

When is that called?

pearl sentinel Apr 19, 2018, 5:34 AM

#

and*

#

not actually sure

#

but nothing changed as far as the api is concerned, so i just rebuilt it against the new version

#

📎 ModdingAPI_1.3.1.5_beta.zip

rain cedar Apr 19, 2018, 5:36 AM

#

Neato

pearl sentinel Apr 19, 2018, 5:37 AM

#

i removed the 1.3.whatever string literal from the save file version so it uses the game's constant now, removing the need to update that every time the version changes...

#

and that's all i have time for today... puppies are fucking exhausting...

#

📎 20180418_135732.jpg

river eagle Apr 19, 2018, 5:46 AM

#

Aww happygrub

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 6:55 AM

#

I just came in tosee if there's a new version of the API

#

and it's posted

#

you're fast

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 7:25 AM

#

I can't seem to find The Health Bar mod

rain cedar Apr 19, 2018, 7:25 AM

#

Which one?

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 7:26 AM

#

There was one with a giant Health Bar at the bottom that was like marked at 75/50/25%

#

I don't know which one it was

#

I've only seen it in a few videos

rain cedar Apr 19, 2018, 7:27 AM

#

Pins

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 7:29 AM

#

The Google Drive?

#

I didn't find it there

rain cedar Apr 19, 2018, 7:30 AM

#

Well it's there

#

So

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 7:30 AM

#

What is it called?

rain cedar Apr 19, 2018, 7:30 AM

#

HPBar

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 7:32 AM

#

Found it...

#

And FSM is?

rain cedar Apr 19, 2018, 7:33 AM

#

It's for helping make mods

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 7:33 AM

#

Mhm

#

Also, is there a place I can find the code for different enemies outside of game files?

rain cedar Apr 19, 2018, 7:34 AM

#

Ha, funny you should ask that right after asking about FSM

#

There is no enemy code

#

They used something called PlaymakerFSM to create state machines for AI in a visual editor

#

Use the FSM mod to access it easily

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 7:36 AM

#

So, there is no easy direct way to edit enemy behavior and effects?

rain cedar Apr 19, 2018, 7:36 AM

#

God no, editing enemy AI is one of the hardest things you can do for modding in this game

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 7:38 AM

#

Hmmmmmmpf

#

and things outside AI?

#

say, speed

#

or time it takes between attacks

rain cedar Apr 19, 2018, 7:40 AM

#

That's still modifying enemy behaviour

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 7:41 AM

#

But This seems to be the thing that the Mantis Gods and NGG mods do

#

Mantis Gods makes the Lords significantly faster both in movement and time between attacks

#

and NGG makes... NGG use several attacks at once

rain cedar Apr 19, 2018, 7:42 AM

#

https://github.com/KayDeeTee/HK-NGG/blob/master/src/BossFinder.cs

#

Haven't looked at mantis gods but here you can see he's manually modifying the state machine at runtime

#

Which is pretty unrealistic without having looked at it

#

Never said you couldn't do it, just that it's hard

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 7:43 AM

#

( ._.)b

#

I had this wish of seeing what I can do with different things bosses do, but apparently the code has been made so that such things will be too hard

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 7:47 AM

#

blame TC all right

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 7:48 AM

#

I know it's not your fault, but why isn't there like a Time-between-Attacks or Apeed Tag, it's just unfair

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 7:49 AM

#

such is the state of the game

#

also you really shouldn't look at Hornet's AI

#

that's FSMs that spawn FSMs

#

it's a fun time all around

rain cedar Apr 19, 2018, 7:50 AM

#

That's how like half the things in the game work

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 7:50 AM

#

i don't know how it's possible that the game even works

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 7:51 AM

#

Also, What parts of the code did the Lifeblood update rework?

rain cedar Apr 19, 2018, 7:52 AM

#

Just small changes, really

#

Only somewhat big thing is they've got an actual component for enemy health

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 7:55 AM

#

But didn't someone mention that enemy health isn't a constant thing a few minutes back? I think in the help channel

#

I think it was @exotic venture

#

lemme just check

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 7:57 AM

#

uhh

#

i said it wasn't an fsm

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 7:58 AM

#

Yeah

#

my bad

#

Well

#

I have to go now

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 8:00 AM

#

seeya!

pearl sentinel Apr 19, 2018, 11:56 AM

#

Can also link my mostly done hornet rework to really freak em out

#

zote

#

https://github.com/Kerr1291/ModCommon/blob/master/ModCommon/Components/StateMachines/Rewrites/HornetBoss.cs

GitHub

Kerr1291/ModCommon

ModCommon - A hollow knight mod that provides an API of helpers and other utilities for modding hollow knight.

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 2:20 PM

#

Thanks KDT! I didn't realise that OnDestroy and OnDisable would trigger with the parent object

leaden hedge Apr 19, 2018, 2:42 PM

#

magic

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 3:08 PM

#

that fixes almost everything tbh

#

I don't have to check for scene changed anymore, for instance

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 3:11 PM

#

tbh wilbo needs to be online a lil more so you can show him your progress

#

cuz he's the programmer dood guy

sterile valley Apr 19, 2018, 3:12 PM

#

Guys

#

I'm going to say this both here and in #art-discussion

#

Because the topic concerns both

#

I took a different artistic approach, a slightly different one, as per recommended by KDT

#

This is what the hp bar looks like now

#

📎 outline.png

#

📎 complete.png

young walrus Apr 19, 2018, 3:20 PM

#

how does that look at the extremes? once it gets down to low HP, can you even see the bar behind the flourish on the side?

leaden hedge Apr 19, 2018, 3:21 PM

#

most enemies except bosses take damage in 25% or more chunks

#

and bosses will probably use the big bar

sterile valley Apr 19, 2018, 3:22 PM

#

@young walrus Actually there's no need because the flourish on the side is at the edge of the bar.

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 3:22 PM

#

i mean the details on the side are nice but idk about the glow on em, seems a bit too much

sterile valley Apr 19, 2018, 3:22 PM

#

The flourish doesn't cover the actual bar.

young walrus Apr 19, 2018, 3:23 PM

#

📎 unknown.png

#

so you're saying the bar stops at the red line?

leaden hedge Apr 19, 2018, 3:23 PM

#

i still don't think the colour matches btw

sterile valley Apr 19, 2018, 3:24 PM

#

@young walrus https://puu.sh/A6qfP/b8a3c30401.mp4

▶ Play video

leaden hedge Apr 19, 2018, 3:24 PM

#

this is sort of colour infection is

📎 unknown.png

young walrus Apr 19, 2018, 3:25 PM

#

so yeah, you can't see the last bit of the bar on that last, large dude

#

granted, you still see the bar and he's not dead

#

so you can kinda "assume" what's left

leaden hedge Apr 19, 2018, 3:26 PM

#

its never going to be perfectly accurate

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 3:26 PM

#

i'd rather think a functional bar is better than a decorated one

leaden hedge Apr 19, 2018, 3:26 PM

#

its only like 50 pixels wide

sterile valley Apr 19, 2018, 3:26 PM

#

@young walrus If the enemy is so low you can't see the bar then that means it's one hit from death don't you think

young walrus Apr 19, 2018, 3:26 PM

#

most of the time, yes

#

but not always

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 3:26 PM

#

weeeeelll sometimes there's enemies that have a ton of health

leaden hedge Apr 19, 2018, 3:26 PM

#

theres only a few

#

goldbug

sterile valley Apr 19, 2018, 3:27 PM

#

Well fuck my life

leaden hedge Apr 19, 2018, 3:27 PM

#

husk sentries

#

and devouts

sterile valley Apr 19, 2018, 3:27 PM

#

Time for me to go edit the bar for 10 minutes again to raise it like 5 pixels

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 3:27 PM

#

https://puu.sh/A6qqg/2b1ded4563.mp4

▶ Play video

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 3:27 PM

#

or just get a rectangular bar

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 3:27 PM

#

helthy bois

leaden hedge Apr 19, 2018, 3:27 PM

#

also

#

don't have pure black bg

#

make it like 75% transparent

young walrus Apr 19, 2018, 3:28 PM

#

^ that's a good point

sterile valley Apr 19, 2018, 3:28 PM

#

@solemn rivet The bar looks better the way you made it there

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 3:28 PM

#

if you say so

sterile valley Apr 19, 2018, 3:28 PM

#

I'll make the background 75% transparent though if I can

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 3:28 PM

#

I prefer it like this imo https://puu.sh/A6qfP/b8a3c30401.mp4

▶ Play video

leaden hedge Apr 19, 2018, 3:28 PM

#

it can be done in engine

sterile valley Apr 19, 2018, 3:28 PM

#

But for now let me suffer an insanely high amount of pain to fix the fucking corner fleurs

leaden hedge Apr 19, 2018, 3:28 PM

#

you don't even need a sprite

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 3:28 PM

#

that's what I'm doing, KDT

#

I'm resizing the base graphics

sterile valley Apr 19, 2018, 3:29 PM

#

This is where the fleurs are

#

📎 unknown.png

#

📎 unknown.png

young walrus Apr 19, 2018, 3:29 PM

#

make it square

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 3:29 PM

#

^

sterile valley Apr 19, 2018, 3:29 PM

#

I'm going to have to resize the alpha background on the sides and resize all of the god damn layers

#

Heeeeere we go

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 3:29 PM

#

just go with square tbh

young walrus Apr 19, 2018, 3:29 PM

#

and where the red line i put is, make that the boundaries of the bar

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 3:29 PM

#

functionality over form

young walrus Apr 19, 2018, 3:29 PM

#

instead of rounded

sterile valley Apr 19, 2018, 3:30 PM

#

What, make the bar smaller?

leaden hedge Apr 19, 2018, 3:30 PM

#

no

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 3:30 PM

#

no, just make it, well, a rectangle

leaden hedge Apr 19, 2018, 3:30 PM

#

instead of having a rounded edge

#

make it not rounded

young walrus Apr 19, 2018, 3:30 PM

#

📎 unknown.png

#

the triangles are the flourishes

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 3:31 PM

#

best art

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 3:31 PM

#

also the rounding still protrudes the flourishes

#

thinkgrub

leaden hedge Apr 19, 2018, 3:32 PM

#

use that at as is, as the health bar tbqh

young walrus Apr 19, 2018, 3:32 PM

#

📎 unknown.png

#

there

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 3:32 PM

#

i mean i'm a man who likes it basic as hell and thinks that a rectangular one is best

young walrus Apr 19, 2018, 3:32 PM

#

better?

hazy sentinel Apr 19, 2018, 3:33 PM

#

include the white BG kthx

young walrus Apr 19, 2018, 3:33 PM

#

lol

leaden hedge Apr 19, 2018, 3:33 PM

#

i mean i like rectangles too

#

but if you're adamant on having art for it

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 3:33 PM

#

I'm editing it

#

just a sec

young walrus Apr 19, 2018, 3:33 PM

#

fits the game better, imo

#

shrugs

leaden hedge Apr 19, 2018, 3:34 PM

#

i'd just have a rectangle with a black border tbh, going from dark to light orange left to right

young walrus Apr 19, 2018, 3:34 PM

#

lol

#

with notch marks at every 25%?

#

thinkgrub

leaden hedge Apr 19, 2018, 3:34 PM

#

woah

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 3:34 PM

#

lol i mean whatever

hazy sentinel Apr 19, 2018, 3:34 PM

#

🤔 🤔 🤔

leaden hedge Apr 19, 2018, 3:35 PM

#

that sounds pretty good and functional

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 3:35 PM

#

how's this?

📎 unknown.png

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 3:35 PM

#

if it was as big as the screen, on the bottom and the main color was red that'd be basically perfect

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 3:35 PM

#

zoom to see bar edges

sterile valley Apr 19, 2018, 3:35 PM

#

It's not the end version yet, I'm trying my best here guys, it's been days

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 3:36 PM

#

it ends juuuust before the fleur

sterile valley Apr 19, 2018, 3:36 PM

#

I'm gonna have little notch marks at every 25%

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 3:36 PM

#

yeah you see

sterile valley Apr 19, 2018, 3:36 PM

#

@solemn rivet Okay so I don't have to resize the bar?

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 3:36 PM

#

now you see the issues with the glow too

#

you see lighter squares at each side

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 3:36 PM

#

no, I can do that myself, Niko

sterile valley Apr 19, 2018, 3:36 PM

#

I'm aware of the little lighter squares and I would be very happy if someone could fix that because I'm trying

#

📎 Menu_Fleurs.png

young walrus Apr 19, 2018, 3:37 PM

#

📎 unknown.png

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 3:37 PM

#

sure i'll have a knack at it

young walrus Apr 19, 2018, 3:37 PM

#

blown up view

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 3:37 PM

#

how's that, mick?

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 3:37 PM

#

i can pixel decently so this should be a cinch

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 3:37 PM

#

I can make the ends of the bar coincide with the ends of the fleur

young walrus Apr 19, 2018, 3:38 PM

#

if the black in the parts of the fleur were gone too, that'd fit in nicer.

#

like make that black transparent

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 3:38 PM

#

make them transparent

young walrus Apr 19, 2018, 3:38 PM

#

i realize it's nitpicking

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 3:38 PM

#

yup

sterile valley Apr 19, 2018, 3:38 PM

#

audible groan

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sec

young walrus Apr 19, 2018, 3:38 PM

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gets feedback

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groans

sterile valley Apr 19, 2018, 3:38 PM

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not that

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 3:38 PM

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I mean, I've been bashing my head against this mod for 3 days straight

sterile valley Apr 19, 2018, 3:38 PM

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didn't groan because of the transparent thing

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 3:38 PM

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this is by far the easiest part

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I'm happy with criticism at this point

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happygrub

sterile valley Apr 19, 2018, 3:39 PM

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📎 Menu_Fleurs.png

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there we go

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i groaned because i'm trying to kill the lighter square around it

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 3:39 PM

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nice

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I'll kill that

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brb

sterile valley Apr 19, 2018, 3:40 PM

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if you guys don't mind

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i'm going to start listening to the russian national anthem

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while i edit this

half sierra Apr 19, 2018, 3:41 PM

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ive done it several times it helps

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the anthem really helps

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i also recomend the ussr anthem

leaden hedge Apr 19, 2018, 3:41 PM

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also you should make it load from files rather than resources like I did

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so people can just easily skin it

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 3:42 PM

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ehh

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wouldn't that be harder?

leaden hedge Apr 19, 2018, 3:42 PM

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not really

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 3:43 PM

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i'm busy as well

hazy sentinel Apr 19, 2018, 3:43 PM

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rainbow skin hpbar hollowwoke

leaden hedge Apr 19, 2018, 3:43 PM

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instead of doing resources.load you use
www.loadimageintotexture

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www is designed for urls but you can just put a filepath in there

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 3:44 PM

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let's see how this is

📎 ok.png

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okay i messed up at the top

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hold on

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 3:44 PM

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nice mystery!

leaden hedge Apr 19, 2018, 3:45 PM

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as much as I like fancy things that fit the aesthetic i'm much more of a this kinda style

📎 unknown.png

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 3:45 PM

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but then, wouldn't I need to package the files with the dll, KDT?

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yeah, I like the art for your HPBar mod

leaden hedge Apr 19, 2018, 3:45 PM

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not neccessarily

sterile valley Apr 19, 2018, 3:45 PM

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a lot of people complain about that style for some reason

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but i'm still going to add a few notches and such to indicate

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like four notches

leaden hedge Apr 19, 2018, 3:46 PM

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you could check if sprite exists at url else load from resources

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 3:46 PM

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I honestly like it better without the fleurs

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hm...

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also

hazy sentinel Apr 19, 2018, 3:47 PM

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nah having 900 fleurs on screen after gruz mother will look great

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 3:47 PM

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any idea why the puffybois in the sewer don't like their HPbars?

leaden hedge Apr 19, 2018, 3:47 PM

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yes 10x2 = 900

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goodest of maths

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 3:47 PM

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they're the only enemy type, so far, that has that behaviour

hazy sentinel Apr 19, 2018, 3:47 PM

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u bet

leaden hedge Apr 19, 2018, 3:47 PM

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they also die in 2 hits so they basically won't even show up

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 3:47 PM

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I set the bar to follow the enemy's transform.position

leaden hedge Apr 19, 2018, 3:47 PM

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probably weirdly coded

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because they are a double state 0 hp thing

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 3:48 PM

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but for the balloon guys, it's stuck to the bottom of the camera

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oh

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 3:48 PM

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yeah this is better

📎 ok.png

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 3:48 PM

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thanks Mystery!

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can I use that?

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 3:48 PM

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no wait there's still traces

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REE

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give me a moment

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 3:48 PM

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zote

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 3:48 PM

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i don't have an IPS panel which makes this a million times harder

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but sure you can use it

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 3:49 PM

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btw, did we decide to remove the top and bottom of the fleurs outlines?

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/435610417167859723/436550166791847946/unknown.png

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 3:52 PM

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📎 notreallysure.png

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oh yeah that's better

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 3:53 PM

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hollowknice

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@sterile valley can you use that?

sterile valley Apr 19, 2018, 3:53 PM

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give me

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a moment

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 3:53 PM

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k

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 3:54 PM

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glad i could contribute in some way
even though i am the one who complained about it in the first place zote

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 3:54 PM

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kek

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Mys is goodboi

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he complain but he also help fix

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 3:56 PM

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also @leaden hedge i prefer your version more than anything that's coming out of this, could you make a version of the enemy hp bars with the bar you just posted?

sterile valley Apr 19, 2018, 3:56 PM

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okay now for the love of god i think it's finally good

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let me just save it now

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and then i'm going to try to add the notches

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📎 background.png

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📎 filling.png

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📎 outlinenofleur.png

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📎 Menu_Fleurs.png

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📎 outline.png

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📎 complete.png

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does it finally look good now

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still need to add the notches

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@exotic venture ?

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 3:59 PM

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yeah, looks much better

leaden hedge Apr 19, 2018, 3:59 PM

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📎 fg.png

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📎 outline.png

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📎 bg.png

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if gradow wants to compile them together he can release a version with them

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or prebundle multiple i guess hollowface

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into the main version

sterile valley Apr 19, 2018, 4:00 PM

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now for the background and the notches

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 4:00 PM

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multiple variations with a select screen?

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hell yeah

sterile valley Apr 19, 2018, 4:00 PM

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also nice simple gradient effect

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do you think i should do that with my 'filling'

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 4:01 PM

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not at all

sterile valley Apr 19, 2018, 4:01 PM

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make it one solid color and add a gradient

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 4:01 PM

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simple shading is all you need with that

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a gradient really wouldn't fit with it imo

sterile valley Apr 19, 2018, 4:02 PM

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alright

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i'm adding the notches now

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 4:03 PM

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are you gonna do it 25/50/75 or just one at 50

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or, idk, 33/66 if you're a rebel

sterile valley Apr 19, 2018, 4:04 PM

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25%

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 4:04 PM

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ok, so 3 notces

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seems ok

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lemme see if my pixeling skills can get some random shit going too

leaden hedge Apr 19, 2018, 4:06 PM

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the one extra thing Id want for my version is a really subtle cloud animation but thats too much effort

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 4:07 PM

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cloud animation?

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you mean as it goes down?

leaden hedge Apr 19, 2018, 4:07 PM

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"cloud" is like a random render

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look at gg xrds health bars

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to see what I mean

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all the health bars should have combo hp

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I implemented it into mine

sterile valley Apr 19, 2018, 4:09 PM

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📎 outline.png

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📎 complete.png

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kaboom

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and it only took me forever

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@leaden hedge

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ok_grimm ?

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@exotic venture ok_grimm ?

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 4:11 PM

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Those are amazing

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 4:11 PM

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huh, that's pretty decent actually

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 4:11 PM

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What mod?

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I want it

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 4:11 PM

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new mod

sterile valley Apr 19, 2018, 4:12 PM

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One that me and Gradow are working on together

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 4:12 PM

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enemy hp bars

sterile valley Apr 19, 2018, 4:12 PM

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Gradow is doing the codeboi part

leaden hedge Apr 19, 2018, 4:12 PM

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its a mod of a mod

sterile valley Apr 19, 2018, 4:12 PM

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I'm doing the art

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 4:12 PM

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@exotic venture as in?

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It looks amazing

sterile valley Apr 19, 2018, 4:12 PM

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@leaden hedge actually considering adding the boss health bars to this too

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 4:12 PM

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You mean

sterile valley Apr 19, 2018, 4:12 PM

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but like, health bars for the boss, yes, maybe make them bigger

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and differently colored?

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i'm not sure

hollow pier Apr 19, 2018, 4:12 PM

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why have health bars when you oneshot everything

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 4:12 PM

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like that HPBars mod that put a big red one at the bottom?

leaden hedge Apr 19, 2018, 4:13 PM

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yes this is a mod of that mod

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 4:13 PM

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@hollow pier one shots everything

sterile valley Apr 19, 2018, 4:13 PM

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basically that's the mod that was modded to make this mod

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 4:13 PM

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Also, KDT

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I had a question about one of your mods

hollow pier Apr 19, 2018, 4:13 PM

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is it ngg

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 4:13 PM

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No

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But it's still broken on the beta

leaden hedge Apr 19, 2018, 4:14 PM

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correct it is

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 4:14 PM

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The Grimm fight spawns 2 grimms

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but the NKG fight doesn't

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I guess it's because of changes in the code

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I noticed they changed the bullet hell attack for one thing

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 4:14 PM

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might be a bit too retro now i think about it

📎 unknown.png

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 4:15 PM

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@exotic venture maybe flowing?

fringe schooner Apr 19, 2018, 4:15 PM

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does boss rush mod work with lifeblood beta or do i have to downgrade my game?

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 4:15 PM

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gradients?

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 4:15 PM

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and not red-orange-green, but something more like the game colors

sterile valley Apr 19, 2018, 4:15 PM

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gradients will work good

hollow pier Apr 19, 2018, 4:15 PM

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just make the bar completely white

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 4:15 PM

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say, yellowish to infection orange

hollow pier Apr 19, 2018, 4:15 PM

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it can go from white to off white

leaden hedge Apr 19, 2018, 4:15 PM

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tbh a white bar wouldn't even look out of place

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 4:15 PM

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sure, could do that

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a white bar is probably better for this kinda thing indeed

hollow pier Apr 19, 2018, 4:16 PM

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in this modern society white bars don't look out of place kdt

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 4:16 PM

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Well

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won't it be a bit bland

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just a white rectangle above the enemies

leaden hedge Apr 19, 2018, 4:16 PM

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look at your soul and hp

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your soul is just a white circle lol

hollow pier Apr 19, 2018, 4:16 PM

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I never look at those

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 4:16 PM

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I still think @sterile valley 's version is best

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Well, yeah but

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shouldn't enemies be more clearly visible?

hollow pier Apr 19, 2018, 4:17 PM

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just put text above it that says deadness: x%

vagrant leaf Apr 19, 2018, 4:18 PM

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boom perfect mod

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 4:18 PM

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Just replace all enemy sprites with Words. A Giant Red NKG, small white TikTiks

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Have squares called "GROUND"

solemn rivet Apr 19, 2018, 4:18 PM

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KDT if you can tell me how to make a layout selection screen, I'm sold

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 4:18 PM

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(Don't do it please)

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Is 56 online?

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 4:19 PM

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the "really fucking simple"

📎 unknown.png

leaden hedge Apr 19, 2018, 4:19 PM

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look at the modding api's mod menu code

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 4:19 PM

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@exotic venture GO EVEN FURTHER. REMOVE THE PERCENTAGE MARKS

leaden hedge Apr 19, 2018, 4:19 PM

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or rob kerrs code lol

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 4:20 PM

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nah i need my percentages man

leaden hedge Apr 19, 2018, 4:20 PM

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i wouldn't even have the black outline

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just 3 white blocks

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 4:20 PM

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Why not this?

📎 outline.png

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 4:20 PM

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that sounds cooler yeah

sterile valley Apr 19, 2018, 4:20 PM

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📎 completeempty.png

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 4:20 PM

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📎 complete.png

sterile valley Apr 19, 2018, 4:20 PM

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📎 background.png

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I've reduced the opacity to 50%.

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On the background.

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 4:20 PM

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The one Niko made

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I like it best

vagrant leaf Apr 19, 2018, 4:21 PM

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^

sterile valley Apr 19, 2018, 4:21 PM

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Thank you, I worked really hard on it taking you guys' suggestions.

leaden hedge Apr 19, 2018, 4:21 PM

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but yeah @solemn rivet i'd just ask @pearl sentinel for whatever code he borrowed from the api, it's probably closer to your goals than the mod api code

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its already designed for settings

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 4:21 PM

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By the way, how did you make the FPS appear?

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 4:21 PM

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so basically this

📎 unknown.png

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wait it uses black

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not the grey i picked

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re

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one sec

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📎 assembled.png

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 4:22 PM

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The process of modding does seem interesting

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ONLY IF I WAS ABLE TO EDIT ENEMIES

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Still Salty About it...

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 4:22 PM

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as i said, it's a really fucking simple bar

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 4:23 PM

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But...

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Ok

leaden hedge Apr 19, 2018, 4:23 PM

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you can

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you just need to believe

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 4:23 PM

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Said the one that made NGG

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Also

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I have the code in another tab

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And I noticed this "hme.FsmVariables.GetFsmInt("HP").Value = 3200;"

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 4:24 PM

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lul

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 4:24 PM

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so

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 4:24 PM

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seems like someone made an update

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 4:24 PM

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wait, someone edited this part?

leaden hedge Apr 19, 2018, 4:25 PM

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no its been like that for ages

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you can check revision history on github

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 4:25 PM

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Also, this

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A bit later

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" grimm_anim.GetClipByName("Tele In").fps = 24;"

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 4:25 PM

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maybe this is better?

📎 assembled.png

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 4:25 PM

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aren't such tags (or whatever they are) present in the base game for each enemy?

leaden hedge Apr 19, 2018, 4:25 PM

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you can use ` to make code "quotes"

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grimm_anim.GetClipByName("Tele In").fps = 24;

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 4:26 PM

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'test'

leaden hedge Apr 19, 2018, 4:26 PM

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no `

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not '

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 4:26 PM

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meme

leaden hedge Apr 19, 2018, 4:26 PM

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and 3 will do multiline

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 4:26 PM

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I don't think I have it on my Keyboard

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 4:26 PM

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``meme``

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 4:26 PM

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?

hollow pier Apr 19, 2018, 4:26 PM

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boi

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 4:26 PM

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Pl

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ok

leaden hedge Apr 19, 2018, 4:26 PM

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 grimm_anim.GetClipByName("Tele In").fps = 24;
 grimm_anim.GetClipByName("Tele In").fps = 24;
 grimm_anim.GetClipByName("Tele In").fps = 24;

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but yes every enemy has those

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although you'll have to dump the animation list

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 4:27 PM

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Hmmm

leaden hedge Apr 19, 2018, 4:27 PM

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and some may not work as expected

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if the trigger isn't the animation ending, it may loop instead of ending the state early

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 4:27 PM

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Becuase Mantis Gods seems to have edited those too and I was wondering if I can try and edit them as well

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lemme just check for something

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 4:28 PM

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bar

📎 bar.png

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background

📎 bg.png

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and assembled @solemn rivet

📎 assembled.png

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a really simple hp bar for your daily needs

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 4:29 PM

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does it work for 1.3.1.5?

hollow pier Apr 19, 2018, 4:29 PM

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why is it 33 50 and 66

leaden hedge Apr 19, 2018, 4:29 PM

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its not

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 4:29 PM

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rE that's just an example

leaden hedge Apr 19, 2018, 4:29 PM

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its just 33 / 66

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 4:29 PM

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33/66 aye

hollow pier Apr 19, 2018, 4:29 PM

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it acts like a 50

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 4:29 PM

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wait i noticed it's off

hollow pier Apr 19, 2018, 4:29 PM

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because the colour

young walrus Apr 19, 2018, 4:30 PM

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@flat forum just assume mods aren't working on the beta branch yet

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it's changing daily

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not worth updating things in real time yet until it releases

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 4:30 PM

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Also, KDT, any idea why the HP mod broke between 1.2.2.1 and 1.3.1.5

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 4:30 PM

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better foreground

📎 fg.png

sterile valley Apr 19, 2018, 4:30 PM

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@exotic venture what's off

hollow pier Apr 19, 2018, 4:30 PM

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the mods aren't working but the modders are

sterile valley Apr 19, 2018, 4:30 PM

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your thing?

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 4:30 PM

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it's at 51 and 101px not 50 and 100px

sterile valley Apr 19, 2018, 4:30 PM

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http://pollmaker.vote/p/TQ7DY7X8

Have your say: Do I let the hp bar's 'orange' part (the one that d...

Voice your opinion on the poll: Do I let the hp bar's 'orange' part (the one that drains when you hit an enemy) as is, or do I make it a solid orange color like the old HP bar used to be?

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 4:31 PM

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@young walrus maybe yes, maybe no. Look at how excited the nice people of the Discord are

hollow pier Apr 19, 2018, 4:31 PM

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nice where

young walrus Apr 19, 2018, 4:31 PM

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hpmod broke b/c health is tracked differently.

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and it's the beta, so there's compatibility issues

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 4:31 PM

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yeah my thing btw

hollow pier Apr 19, 2018, 4:31 PM

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just don't play beta

young walrus Apr 19, 2018, 4:31 PM

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^

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 4:32 PM

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But I got bored maggot

young walrus Apr 19, 2018, 4:33 PM

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so.... you played an unstable version of the game that only really adds 1 boss? it's still 99% the same game

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 4:33 PM

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No

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 4:33 PM

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@solemn rivet got it in a nice zip for you

📎 put_a_bar_on_it.zip

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 4:33 PM

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the problem is

hollow pier Apr 19, 2018, 4:33 PM

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it's actually 106% the same game

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 4:33 PM

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my computer is 32 bit

young walrus Apr 19, 2018, 4:33 PM

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zote

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 4:33 PM

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and the Lifeblood works far better

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many of the crashes and stuff seems to be relatively fixed

young walrus Apr 19, 2018, 4:34 PM

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well you can't have your cake and eat it too. mods aren't ready for beta as a general assumption. wait until it actually releases

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 4:34 PM

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props to the one who can get the reference for my folder name

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 4:34 PM

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Put a ring on it

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is the original

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I have no idea where it's from

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I heard it somewhere

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 4:35 PM

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nah it's put a donk on it

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 4:35 PM

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Wait, THIS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckMvj1piK58

YouTube

SteveAATW

Blackout Crew - Put A Donk On It (Official Video)

The Official Video for the new Blackout Crew single "Put A Donk On It" Follow AATW: http://twitter.com/aatwofficial

▶ Play video

exotic venture Apr 19, 2018, 4:35 PM

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yeh yeh yeah dat is sik

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can definitely drop to that one

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 4:37 PM

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Also, this

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https://imgur.com/gallery/9mRNHU7

Imgur

Hungry little fellas...

▶ Play video

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Make a hydra mod that spawns 2 of each normal enemy you kill at the place it died

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(shouldn't be way too hard, should it?)

pearl sentinel Apr 19, 2018, 4:46 PM

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2 cents on hp bar: don't have any hp bar. Have floating numbers that pop off things you hit showing damage. Make the numbers a darker color (more red or w/e) the closer to death the enemy is.

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 4:47 PM

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Make it make Morse code sounds about the percentage

half sierra Apr 19, 2018, 4:48 PM

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but in nkg the red numbers would be pretty hard to see

sterile valley Apr 19, 2018, 4:48 PM

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@pearl sentinel ...

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I like that idea tbh

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How about we mix both of these ideas?

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Floating numbers that pop off of things AND the hp bar

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I'm guessing you're saying floating numbers like castlevania : symphony of the night?

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the problem with that is that in hollow knight you don't usually swap weapons

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so you'd just see the same number floating off the enemy over and over again

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until you upgrade your nail

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the only things that would show different numbers are the spells

pearl sentinel Apr 19, 2018, 4:49 PM

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(Shrug) I just think bars don't fit the asthetic, but some well done numbers wouldn't be too clashing

flat forum Apr 19, 2018, 4:49 PM

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Аn HP bar with numbers?

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on it

pearl sentinel Apr 19, 2018, 4:49 PM

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Your mod tho so w/e :)

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The floating number could sum up for back to back hits

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That takes care of the repetition problem

sterile valley Apr 19, 2018, 4:51 PM

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that's actually a good idea