Shouldn't have touched it
#archived-modding-development
vagrant leaf
- replace thing
- put thing in thing
yeah too complex smh
fair rampart
and do I have to mention that I'm not english native ?
vagrant leaf
what does that have to do with this
fair rampart
I don't understand everything you say ._.
vagrant leaf
oh
fair rampart
fair rampart
copper nacelle
but he doesn't have the new api installed
exotic venture
then get the api and replace Assembly-CSharp.dll
fair rampart
that's what I was doing
fair rampart
Okay
I saw my error
I did everything well
I just deleted a folder of vanilla HK
Now I just need to put the DLL into this folder, right ?
DLL's*
copper nacelle
you put mod dlls into the Mods folder
copper nacelle
most api mods work w/ beta
fair rampart
how do I know if it's an API ?
fair rampart
What's the bonfire mod ?
exotic venture
basically, level up using geo
get more powerful that way
kinda RPG like elements
fair rampart
Oh
copper nacelle
should be good other than that
copper nacelle
tfw sonic actually gets used
copper nacelle
boss rush doesn't work in beta
fair rampart
that explain things
I'm leaving the beta ;-;
sonic is pretty good @copper nacelle
copper nacelle
fair rampart
I died 4 times because I'm so bad at dodging
hazy sentinel
nice you should make a terraria mod
exotic venture
i mean it isn't that hard since it's mostly just basic unity stuff and c#
visual escarp
Wonder if I could make you able to spawn bosses at any time lol
visual escarp
Nice maybe I'll mess with it
exotic venture
play the game before you break it tbh
visual escarp
True
copper nacelle
kerr got most bosses to play nice by reparenting scene objeects iirc
exotic venture
havent had the time to play enemy randomizer so i wouldnt know tbh
hollow pier
kitten pics when
hollow pier
take now
solemn rivet
tomorrow, maybe, if I have time
hollow pier
waiting for pics
tranquil glen
guys teach me calculus for my exam tomorrow
hazy sentinel
no
hollow pier
find x
tranquil glen
its the second letter in exam
hollow pier
wrong its the third last
solemn rivet
wrong, arrays start at 0
copper nacelle
^
copper nacelle
lua arrays start at 1
hazy sentinel
wrong, multivariable calculus isn't intro to programming
tranquil glen
lua isn't real and you know it
hollow pier
the entire moon is fake
copper nacelle
should i improve the sonic mod or do something else
hollow pier
whats the sonic mod
solemn rivet
how could you improve it?
copper nacelle
blue title screen
tranquil glen
you should give me a refresher course on limits Kappa
hazy sentinel
timescale 4
solemn rivet
kek
copper nacelle
as you walk your walk speed increases
dash lets you get to new max walk speed instantly
hazy sentinel
resprite all geo drops into rings
hazy sentinel
add an actually good game
hollow pier
make every nail hit be "you're too slow"
rain cedar
Don't forget geo explosion when you get hit
solemn rivet
^
rain cedar
Dang not up to date on the memes
copper nacelle
yes
solemn rivet
nice
copper nacelle
related: how are you supposed to get geo prefabs from a healthmanager
i gave up and just did Resources.LoadAll("")
solemn rivet
kek
hollow pier
imo wheres gathering swarm
solemn rivet
sean wrote code for that a while ago
rain cedar
Just find an enemy and grab the prefabs
tranquil glen
is it supposed to drop more geo than you have?
hollow pier
so i can drop 36k geo
copper nacelle
caps at 1k
hollow pier
bad mod
copper nacelle
hollow pier
thats kinda the point
copper nacelle
meirl
rain cedar
Lol dude just look for HealthManagers after scene load
The player is never gonna get hit before one exists
copper nacelle
o
rain cedar
Also var REEEEE
wide crown
o_o
thorny quiver
is it possible to use a modified Assembly-csharp.DLL with an existing save game? I understand there's a good chance it will cause corruption of some kind. but that's what backups are for.
copper nacelle
yes
shouldn't cause any corruption but
depending on the mod
it can make some changes to the save
thorny quiver
changed charm costs and starting notches
young walrus
use the save editor
copper nacelle
charm costs, notches, hp, nail damage, upgrades, skills
thorny quiver
i tried it with existing save game and their was no change. Wuld i need to trigger it by reaquring the charms or getting new notch
Save editor doesn't change charm costs does it?
copper nacelle
it does
thorny quiver
oh neet
copper nacelle
charm costs are stored in player data
thorny quiver
yeh
seems obvious now that i think about it
oh well i learnt how to mod simple unity games
copper nacelle
where did you change it
thorny quiver
player data class
thorny quiver
using dnSpy
copper nacelle
thorny quiver
does that make sense, not sure if im using the right terminology
opened Assembly-csharp.DLL using dnSpy. then navigated to player data and its around line 4123
copper nacelle
that's part of the SetupNewPlayerData function
so that would only affect new saves
thorny quiver
so is there a "currentPlayerData" function or something? Im not much of a coder as you can likely tell.
copper nacelle
PlayerData.instance is where the current player data but it isn't set to an instance of an object till you load a save
thorny quiver
so if i made the same edit to PayerData.Instance it would work as intended ?(atleast in theory)
copper nacelle
you would have to make the change trigger on the loading of save
but yeah
or on another hook
thorny quiver
so without additonal changes the cost change would not trigger on its own. Iwould have to add code for it?
copper nacelle
rn
you've changed the create new player data function
so new saves would have your change
copper nacelle
You would want your change to either be moved somewhere else
or
you could change the get int func
which is what the modding api does
thorny quiver
right i think i get it. You've been a huge help.
copper nacelle
thorny quiver
ok so ive got working the way i want with the save editor. I might have another fiddle with modding later. i have an ida for changing notch progression
thorny quiver
yeh im gonna learn that next if i do
lilac vault
So do I need the api or crossroads for the randomizer?
lilac vault
okay, since I turned it on, but fury of the fallen was still there
copper nacelle
did you enable it
hazy sentinel
yes that is possible
lilac vault
Yeah
was given desolate dive by the shaman and told I consumed dash master
think it works
how do I get out of here with no VS tho >_>
copper nacelle
baldur doesn't curl up
young walrus
plus dive can kill them
fair rampart
General question for the modders: what's the current plan for the API? Add helper stuffs while waiting for the next non-beta update?
copper nacelle
API has already been updated for beta tho
fair rampart
K k - not really sure where I was going with that question tbh, long day
solar heart
lol
sterile valley
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/309212812234719232/435432662933438464/unknown.png?width=375&height=300 https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/309212812234719232/435432604142010378/unknown.png?width=400&height=164
I'm using those mods. This is the room transition that it happens in the most, but sometimes, anywhere in deepnest when I have the 'fullbright' debug function open, my game just crashes in a room transition.
Any idea why?
I'm not using it anymore because of that of course.
solemn rivet
well, when it happens again you can post your output_log.txt here and we can take a look
sterile valley
@solemn rivet Where can I find this?
hollow pier
kitten pics when
solemn rivet
in the hollow_knight_data folder
but it has to be right after it crashes
the file is rewritten whenever you play the game
hollow pier
sounds like an obscure way to store kitten pics
solemn rivet
Old kitteh pic, from before adoption. I'm not at home rn so can't take more
Me plus kitteh, from when he arrived
@hollow pier satisfied?
hollow pier
very
copper nacelle
real cypress
fair rampart
Has there been any editing of vendor items or anything?
Like uh, has anybody managed to mod those?
young walrus
yes
copper nacelle
rando does it
young walrus
lightbringer completely changes charms too
fair rampart
I know charms can be edited just wanted to know if you could like, i.e make Leg Eater sell map markers
copper nacelle
that's basically what rando does
young walrus
yeah. the randomizer does that
fair rampart
I uh, don't really know what the randomizer mod is 😅
hollow pier
pretty self explanatory
fair rampart
I'm new to this lol
fair rampart
How so?
young walrus
by.... randomizing them....
young walrus
mixes them up, redistributes
copper nacelle
2meirl4meirl
hollow pier
guys how do I install api
young walrus
poke it with a stick
hollow pier
instructions unclear now have the cuphead all bosses wr
copper nacelle
gj
copper nacelle
out of memory
young walrus
download more RAM
hollow pier
download more sheep
exotic venture
kek you ran out of RAM
hollow pier
ram out of ram haha
exotic venture
that's p interesting, did your entire pc crash orrr
also this looks like there's a ton of FSM errors
but idk
young walrus
Tentativa de acessar endereço inválido
exotic venture
probably need an expert to confirm that
copper nacelle
FSM not Preprocessed is normal
exotic venture
oh ok
copper nacelle
idk about the could not find fsm tho
hazy sentinel
could not find a good game
sterile valley
...out of RAM?
copper nacelle
yes
young walrus
just..... why
sterile valley
I guess that makes sense
hollow pier
good meme
sterile valley
Maybe I should close a thing or two...
fresh furnace
so many tabs reeee
solemn rivet
Kek
fair rampart
Closing chrome tabs is like downloading more RAM
young walrus
scenic slate
does boss rush have grimm troupe and hidden dreams bosses?
granite bough
si
copper nacelle
yea
granite bough
fighting grimm without dash is surprisingly neat, along with other early to mid game bosses
fair rampart
I got an idea for a mod
With some custom weapons you can get
Examples would be cloths club (dropped when she dies), Quirells (not sure if that’s how it’s spelled) nail (collectible when he leaves it at the blue lake) and maybe reveks nail or something
Would u guys like that?
young walrus
go for it
fair rampart
Ok
I’ll see if I can, but I haven’t made any mods for hollow knight before
I was thinking of making Unbreakable charms available from the Leg Eater if you didn't get them and banished the troupe
rain cedar
Doesn't divine always stay until you have all of them?
fair rampart
I think she went away with the rest of the troupe when I went with the banishment ending
Unless she's somewhere different from where she initially was
granite bough
she stays around when you fight grimm properly. but from what i heard she just leaves when you go the lame route.
rain cedar
Odd
fair rampart
~< I guess I took the lame route
I just happened to go to the Deepnest flame first and when the guy talked about the whole banishing I just went along with it
And later realized I'm stupid
copper nacelle
missing nkg reeeeeee
granite bough
nkg is so fun. i'd be super bummed to miss out on it
vagrant leaf
sorry pre-buff traitor lord best boss
rain cedar
Modding inventory drops back in
hollow pier
mod every glitch back in
solemn rivet
just a sec
lemme take a look
C R A S H ! ! !
go to your saves location and send us modlog.txt
sterile valley
Got it.
Just a problem though, where is my save location?
The internet tells me it's C:\Users<nickname>\AppData\LocalLow\Team Cherry\Hollow Knight.
Let me see...
@solemn rivet
Worth noting. This game crash has NEVER happened to me.
Only in Deepnest now did it happen.
Nowhere else has given me this problem yet.
It's only happening now that I'm around deepnest.
sterile valley
Let me translate.
young walrus
File missing
sterile valley
"Attempt to access invalid address".
young walrus
Same error as earlier
sterile valley
@solemn rivet
hollow pier
vc br
young walrus
Validate your game files
hollow pier
o
sterile valley
But validating my game files is going to kill my mods, isn't it?
sterile valley
I don't use the api, sadly.
young walrus
....
sterile valley
I'm using Crossroads because literally no one helped me with installing anything anywhere.
Crossroads auto install the api.
Because I don't know how.
granite bough
I bought the game on humble, so i just downloaded the drm-free copy for modding purposes
sterile valley
auto installs*
young walrus
Crossroads is an installer
solemn rivet
yeah, so you are using the api
young walrus
Installs the api
solemn rivet
you simply didn't install it manually
sterile valley
Alright, I understand.
So I'll just validate my game files, launch crossroads and install the api again.
And it should be fixed?
young walrus
Maybe
solemn rivet
should, yeah
young walrus
Wouldn't hurt
sterile valley
Again, worth noting.
solemn rivet
I can try and help you manually install it if you want to
sterile valley
This never happened to me anywhere outside Deepfuckingnest.
solemn rivet
also, double check the version you're installing
sterile valley
Validating.
solemn rivet
so, from this
0x40D2750B (Mono JIT Code) UnityEngine.Sprite:Create (UnityEngine.Texture2D,UnityEngine.Rect,UnityEngine.Vector2)
0x676B0B19 (Mono JIT Code) DebugMod.CanvasImage:UpdateImage (UnityEngine.Texture2D,UnityEngine.Rect)
0x676B09B0 (Mono JIT Code) DebugMod.CanvasPanel:UpdateBackground (UnityEngine.Texture2D,UnityEngine.Rect)
0x40D81D3A (Mono JIT Code) DebugMod.EnemiesPanel:Update ()
0x40D7C61F (Mono JIT Code) DebugMod.GUIController:Update ()```I'm gonna go out on a limb and blame sean for this mess
hollow pier
always blame sean
sterile valley
@solemn rivet How so?
solemn rivet
seems like it's debugmod breaking things
sterile valley
Fuck.
Look.
I only want enemies to have health bars.
That's literally all I use debugmod for.
KDT Health Bars is an amazing mod but it only works for bosses.
Understandably so but still.
I just want the enemies to have health bars. I use literally nothing else from debugmod.
Also the Crossroads version of debugmod is outdated. That's why I didn't want to install it with Crossroads. @solemn rivet
It actually says in-game there's a newer version.
young walrus
That's broken
sterile valley
Oh, ok.
solemn rivet
but version checking is broken
sterile valley
But still all I ever use from debug is the health bars.
Ever.
That's all I want.
solemn rivet
also, I'll ask KDT later how how it would be to adapt HPBar mod to all enemies
sterile valley
Like.
Show little health bars over the enemy heads.
Like debugmod does.
And show the big health bar on the bottom of the screen.
For bosses.
You know what I mean?
solemn rivet
I know
sterile valley
Maybe the health bar for the enemies can be a little bit stylized, like KDT's done for the boss health bars on the bottom of the screen, so it doesn't look tacky/out of place compared to the rest of the HK art.
KDT did a great job with the boss health bars with what he did.
It looks just fine with HK's art.
I can help draw a health bar design if necessary, even.
Also, no need to show numbers for health on it, just the health bar itself is more than enough.
solemn rivet
artist found
having numbers is good tho
specially to debug nail/spell/etc. damage
sterile valley
Well yes, it's good, but they would probably have to be stylized too.
solemn rivet
^
sterile valley
My point with the health bars mod isn't to debug, but rather just to make a enemy health bar thing, yes. So it looks nice and part of it.
@rain cedar I know.
But the problem is that there is
literally
no other mod or anything that does that.
So that's why I'm using debug for it.
hollow pier
just know every enemies' hp and count your hits ezpz
young walrus
Your request is super niche tbh
sterile valley
That's not the same thing.
rain cedar
But yeah looks like it's crashing when I update the hp image
Is there an actual error or just the stack trace?
sterile valley
@young walrus 'Niche'?
It's a quality of life request that I can honestly see more than one person using on a lot of instances.
young walrus
You're the only person who has asked for this or been upset about it
hollow pier
remove spiders from deepnest
sterile valley
I'm upset over what you're saying about it.
It's a simple request. What I'm actually a bit upset over is that it crashed me in deepnest.
solemn rivet
sean - only a stack trace, from what I can gather
rain cedar
Dude you're the one who has asked for multiple niche mods with your fucking entitled attitude
Sorry someone is calling you out on it
sterile valley
Sean I'm just asking for one thing, nothing else. What other niche mod that I ask for here? Right now all that I wanted you to do is make the debug mod not crash in the deepnest area and if anyone wants to work on a health bars mod I'll help.
I'm not being entitled, I'm trying to be as polite as I can about it and explain why I think it would be a good thing.
rain cedar
Glass soul is the other
sterile valley
Glass Soul is the other, yes, but I actually only asked for that once as a convenience, nobody's really done it so I left it alone.
That one really has no need at the end of the day.
Especially after I saw the friendly api one.
young walrus
Asking to fix the crash is whatever. Saying that the hp bars must be stylized to fit in is where your request started to get super niche. The point of debug is to give data, not to be used through an entire playthrough
sterile valley
So please stop treating me like that if you could.
rain cedar
I treat stupid people meanly
solemn rivet
wait, what about glass souls?
sterile valley
@young walrus Let me explain. I'm not saying that the health bars HAVE to fit in or anything. I'm not telling Sean to rework his entire mod and add stylized health bars. What I'm talking about is that I'd just like the crash to be fixed, yes, but if someone wants to work on a mod that shows only health bars and nothing else then I'll actually help out and try to provide art for it, even.
rain cedar
He just dm'd firzen and pinged 56/wyza about it is all, gradow
sterile valley
I'm not asking Sean or anyone else to -actually- work on it.
@rain cedar Yes, I did that -one- time. Are you going to treat me that way forever over it?
rain cedar
Probably, yeah
sterile valley
Then you're the one who's being stupid, not me.
I already even apologized for it the other day.
rain cedar
I'll try to fix the crash but I'm not gonna take your requests seriously
sterile valley
If you could stop treating me like that and see what I'm actually trying to say, that would be great.
rain cedar
You keep saying your requests are simple when people say no
rain cedar
Whatever, this isn't worth the effort
sterile valley
And I commented on it, that if someone was to make an only health bars mod, I would help with it.
And second, the glass souls thing.
I wasn't
even going to mention it here in the first place.
But someone I talked to about it told me 'someone in #archived-modding-development could probably do one for you, ask there'.
And then I came here and asked and said it was simple just so it wouldn't discourage people.
young walrus
The stylized bars would have to be a separate mod. The stark ones as they exist now are that way on purpose so they stand out for informative reasons.
sterile valley
I didn't even persist on it too long and I pinged the modders on it because well, it's modders, so I thought they would actually like to work on one more mod.
@young walrus I know, Mick.
That's... actually the point of what I'm trying to say.
young walrus
No I know
sterile valley
Thank you for actually understanding me now, though...
Look, @rain cedar I'm sorry if my wording is crap but you understood all I tried to say and convey wrong, so please, try to read the things I said up there.
..Really.
young walrus
Your mindset though of "I thought they might want to do it." is a bit misinformed though imo. These guys are super busy and are already doing a lot of work on this stuff. So when. Someone comes in and says what you said, it comes off as super rude, even though I know you didn't mean it that way.
sterile valley
Okay. Again I'm sorry if it came off as rude, but it might just be because I really was trying to be as polite as I could, but that assumption was wrong of me, I understand. I just...
I thought one ping on the modders wouldn't bother them because they were online and didn't have anything saying don't ping me or anything.
I'm sorry for that, really.
rain cedar
A ping is fine, just don't ping to say "do x for me because I'm lazy"
sterile valley
O-Oh, no, it was more like "can you please do x for me whenever you have the time to? i don't know how to do it, but if you don't want to, it's okay" and then I explained it would just be an easy thing and I didn't want it to be a glass souls clone.
I think I...
over explained it and made it seem like I was insisting on it.
I really wasn't, it wasn't my intention to seem like it.
Again, I'm sorry. Really.
daring snow
As a non-modder who just read through all of that. Pretty shameful. Extremely, rude entitled and arrogant to the end.
That's not how you treat someone if you want something done.
sterile valley
Stay, I'm not even being arrogant, I'm just trying to defend my point, and I'm even apologizing for it.
Please don't treat me like that.
The only thing I'm doing is trying to explain that I came off wrong and it wasn't my intention to do it, and even then I'm apologizing for that because I did come off wrong.
So please don't... rub it in.
Okay?
rain cedar
It's not a real apology, though
sterile valley
Like.. please.
sterile valley
...No, I'm not.
rain cedar
It's kinda insulting, actually
sterile valley
I'm saying that I'm sorry that I said it in a wrong way that made you guys get that idea.
And basically that I'll try to word myself better and not cause all of this the next time.
young walrus
I think y'all are being a little harsh Now TBH. The Dude Fucked up, but can we move on?
Arguing is going nowhere
solemn rivet
that's done and done, already
rain cedar
I'm probably just gonna scrap the entire UI for debug when I get home and start over with CanvasUtil
Made the mod before that was a thing
Seems to work better, though
solemn rivet
I still have to understand that better tbh
it seems more counterintuitive for me than imGUI
rustic stag
Does anybody know how the scale mod worked? It's not an API mod so I'm not sure where to look for what it added/changed.
I was looking to create something similar.
solemn rivet
oh, thanks for the suggestion KDT
leaden hedge
If you can find a vanilla DLL for that version @rustic stag you can dump all the cs files from vanilla and mod and diff them
rustic stag
I guess I'll try that!
rain cedar
It probably just changes the scale of the hero transform
HeroController.instance.gameObject.transform
leaden hedge
I think it made you move faster and slower and changed damage with size too, although yeah for resizing stuff that's all you need
solemn rivet
KDT: how up-to-date is the github for hpbar mod?
leaden hedge
the only part of it thats out of date is the update to make it use the "new" on nail hit fsm hook
which would need to be rewritten anyway for beta
solemn rivet
based on how it's coded, do you think it's feasible to adapt it to make it also display hp bars for enemies?
I'm willing to tackle that, if so
leaden hedge
ermmm like over each enemy?
leaden hedge
you'll need to do some stuff to adjust it
but yeah should work
I'd convert it to a component and add it to each entity with a health_manager
solemn rivet
that's my plan
leaden hedge
then just add everything thats currently rendered in hpbars for bosses to a static canvas for the entire mod
make it smaller
move it to be next to the enemy
solemn rivet
I was actually thinking of adding it to the transform of a health_manager entity, instead of the entity itself
flat forum
Here?
copper nacelle
yea
flat forum
I also saw this video, is the mod yours as well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDk6qkVbf80
granite bough
that just doesnt look fun anymore 
flat forum
Are there any other "Boss God" mods?
copper nacelle
not afaik
flat forum
Also, another thing I was wondering
What are the chainsaws in the white palace?
Are they also considered an Entity like the enemies
or are they a different type of thing?
waxen lodge
Ive not seen a video of mantis gods :c
copper nacelle
they're probably a gameobject but idk
flat forum
What I'm trying to ask is this - can a mod editing the White Palace to make it more difficult be created
I've been wanting a Harder White Palace mod for a while, but wasn't sure if it would work
rain cedar
In theory yeah but it's a lot of work for little pay off
flat forum
Yeah ( .-.)
flat forum
Yes
MANY TIMES
I used Debug mod to see how quick I can do it
because it has this little thing showing for how long the game has been running in the corner
here
(kinda off topic but you can see what I mean)
copper nacelle
sub 5 when
young walrus
you could also use this wonderful thing called.... Livesplit
rain cedar
7 minutes? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QnLG-JEzzU
flat forum
I couldn't do it in less than 7 minutes
young walrus
well that's the right attitude to have
young walrus
copper nacelle
young walrus
do NGG or no balls
copper nacelle
do NGG so KDT has to update it
copper nacelle
@ππ#2154 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBXmqnOxd6g&feature=youtu.be here you go
@waxen lodge
waxen lodge
Danke 💚
waxen lodge
Ohh u just uploaded it 💚
flat forum
Somewhat nerfed, but all 3 at the same time
civic bough
I think someone suggested that once the second one dies, Traitor Lord joins in and the third is restored to full hp
Doesn't make any lore sense though
leaden hedge
beat ngg
solemn rivet
even tho I have the latest api as a reference. Ideas?
solemn rivet
nvm, fixed it
solemn rivet
@leaden hedge can you give me some help with that hpbar thing we talked about yesterday?
mellow oyster
The Thin Knight
rustic stag
Alright, I think I'm getting close to something useable
https://media.giphy.com/media/39vbBaMb3RSRdjpc4Y/giphy.mp4
This is no better!
hexed swan
that is obviously better what are you talking about
copper nacelle
tbh squished knight best knight
rustic stag
Anybody know where the value for the jump height would be?
flat forum
P E R F E C T I O N
Anyone know if version 1.2.2.1 mods (Dreamshield Co-op to be precise) are compatible with the latest beta?
solemn rivet
dreamshield co-op most certainly isn't
solemn rivet
so, question
I'm adding a component to a game object
can I simply have an Update() method on that component and it'll work, or do I have to hook it to heroupdatehook?
pearl sentinel
Correct, any enabled component on an active game object has its update method called each frame. Use FixedUpdate if doing physical things. LateUpdate for end of frame things.
solemn rivet
nice! Thank you
well, uh, something weird is happening
I'm getting to attach the component to each enemy, just fine
but, then, when I log this.gameObject.name it's different from fsm.GameObjectName where fsm is the parameter from GetEventSenderHook
wait, I think I got it
every enemy is hooked to GetEventSenderHook
so maybe what's happening is that every time I hit something, it checks, FOR EVERY ENEMY, if what I hit is the object with said fsm
which returns an NRE, because in most cases it isn't
yay, it works!
half sierra
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sterile valley
This is the version of basically a conversion on KDT's boss health bars mod.
It's meant to show the same kind of health bar on every enemy.
Eventually, going to have the health bar showing under the enemy with new art, but for now, just trying to make it work consistently.
But right now, me and the person that's coding it ( @solemn rivet ) ran into a little problem.
I'm going to provide screenshots to show what it is.
Some enemies don't have health bars.
The empty health bar on the bottom always persists, and it's supposed to fill up when the enemy is struck.
But...
As you can see on this screenshot, the health bar for a spider I hit up there is a much darker shade of red than it should be.
A few seconds later after that spider died, I hit another.
You can barely see this one's health bar.
And then I went to kill another spider a few seconds later.
The health bar is back to normal on it.
After that, I went to kill another.
And it's like this.
In some areas, this doesn't seem to happen at all.
But it's happening right now.
(raised exposure)
Anyone has any ideas?
exotic venture
i'm pretty sure you're using a boss health bar right here
that wasn't meant for multiple enemies, or so i recall
exotic venture
what mp4
exotic venture
that must be something inherent to the mod
may i ask why you're recycling kdt's mod tho
since i know that one was designed for bosses
sterile valley
KDT himself said that if his mod was used as a base, it could be easily done
Like he's the one that said that
Directly
exotic venture
but did he specify for enemies too
vagrant leaf
why did that vengefly have so much health
sterile valley
I'm not the coder here, Gradow is
solemn rivet
I talked about this with KDT yesterday, and he even gave me some pointers on how he'd do that
sterile valley
Also that's nail-1 I think
exotic venture
that's a nail with 1 dmg
solemn rivet
nail damage = 1 in that vid
sterile valley
I tried it without blackmoth, same issue, same thing, as seen by the screenshots.
solemn rivet
ironic
sterile valley
ACTUALLY if you check the exposure picture it looks like the health bars are overlayed.
exotic venture
seems like you gotta discuss this with kdt as it's his mod and he knows how it operates
sterile valley
Which happens in the mp4 that Gradow posted too but
eh.
Well, KDT's not here right now so... just asking the available modders.
exotic venture
the layering is probably a unity thing
i'm assuming he is using in unity available assets
sterile valley
I posted the mod .dll up there
exotic venture
yeah a .dll doesn't contain any images
sterile valley
It doesn't, but you can try to use it, right? Or open it?
solemn rivet
yeah, they are simply byte arrays
exotic venture
it's basically just a bunch of c#
wide crown
the api dll is not updated yet to the latest right?
exotic venture
nope
solemn rivet
you can search for from:kerr has:file
exotic venture
nah, i checked
hasn't been updated yet
you know, i can't actually code but i do know the logic behind it
sterile valley
...mm.
exotic venture
ahh i think i see
when the hp bar is created it goes up to three iterations
each with a different color
sterile valley
Mhm?
solemn rivet
yup
exotic venture
it just uses quite dark colors
solemn rivet
it first created the background, then foreground and then outlines
using CanvasUtil
sterile valley
But how does that make that problem?
solemn rivet
here's what those vectores are
the colour is actually in the fg image
try looking inside the resources folder, Mystery
the images should be there
in dnspy, I mean
sterile valley
@solemn rivet I just tested it alone without any other mods installed to make sure and yep the problem still happens.
Just to confirm it's not anything from kdt's health bar installed with this one.
exotic venture
can you tell me where to look since i'm lost as hell once again
because there's
3 different items
solemn rivet
lemme just open it rq
sterile valley
Maybe if the health bar was to have only 1 iteration of color, that would help with something?
exotic venture
nah the colors are probably in unity selected
solemn rivet
I don't see it having 3 iterations, tho
sterile valley
Check my exposure risen pictures
exotic venture
vot
exotic venture
there's 3 bars created
sterile valley
solemn rivet
those are the outlines, black background and redish foreground, Mys
each one is a separate resource
Here
solemn rivet
yeah
exotic venture
might be the bool
solemn rivet
did you manage to find the resources, Mystery?
exotic venture
yeah i found those
but they aren't the method for filling it up
AHA it might be using unity engine's way to fill it up
solemn rivet
oh, yeah
that's what you meant
yeah
health_bar = fg_go.GetComponent<Image>();
health_bar.type = Image.Type.Filled;
health_bar.fillMethod = Image.FillMethod.Horizontal;
health_bar.preserveAspect = false;```so unity picks out something
in this case it just picks red
and it just uses the default darker shades of it to deal with new instances of it
so what you are seeing is probably the same image being layered
sterile valley
It's exactly what I was afraid of but since I know nothing about coding I have no f.cking idea how to fix it
exotic venture
i'd help you out if i knew how, kek
but i'm only good at figuring out th elogic
so what kdt meant is that you edit the style of his hp bar and use unitys way to fill things up using its coloration etc
sure you can edit the style of it easily
would just be a matter of switching out some images
but to fill and make it go down
uhh that might be different
yep that's pretty standard unity stuff
<Image> refers to this bit of code
it just tell it to generate a sprite to fill up the bar
i think it uses GenerateFilledSprite
@solemn rivet what do you think?
solemn rivet
hm...
I think it's more an issue of residual canvases tho
you can see in the vid, that even when the enemy dies, the canvas remains
so it's overlaying it and thus making it darker
because
I don't think it's filling it up with red
actually, I think it's taking the foreground image fg and using that to fill the rect
exotic venture
that could also be the case
but then why is it using a darker color with every different column?
solemn rivet
because the background is black transparent
and you can see in the screenshots and vid, that part of the healthbar remains light red
also, I think I figured it out
if it works, I'm a dungo
(well, if it doesn't I'm a dungo anyways, but meh)
exotic venture
did you forget to destroy orrrr
exotic venture
yep that must be it
solemn rivet
nope, still breaks
exotic venture
nani
granite bough
there a way to quick restart a boss in the boss rush mod?
solemn rivet
nope
granite bough
rip
solemn rivet
to practice bosses, use debug
oh, I get it
this if isn't running at all
because HP is never <= 0
and once it is, the enemy is dead, so you don't hit it, so the if doesn't trigger
solemn rivet
won't work
young walrus
still won't
exotic venture
no wait
young walrus
you don't hit the enemy once it goes <1
solemn rivet
because if the enemy has 5 hp and you deal 5 dmg
young walrus
^
exotic venture
value < 1
solemn rivet
if (hm.FsmVariables.GetFsmInt("HP").Value - PlayerData.instance.GetInt("nailDamage") <= 0 || fsm == null)
dis should work
or not
ehhh
I have to figure out what is doing the damage
sigh
for nail it works tho
exotic venture
well when does it check/update
solemn rivet
yup, it works
copper nacelle
solemn rivet
now to make it recognize all types of damage
or, rather
it's easy
just check the enemy hp every frame
it's a simple int check, shouldn't be hard
it working
exotic venture
and for multiple enemies?
solemn rivet
what do you mean?
I don't think it's hard on performance, tho
Kerr's rando is checking every frame for hp == 0
so he can kill the originals
exotic venture
like, if you hit two enemies at the same time
solemn rivet
oh
exotic venture
but one hasnt died yet
solemn rivet
the idea is to have a bar for each one
young walrus
cool, now put them over their heads.
solemn rivet
kinda DS-like
exotic venture
that is gonna be fun kek
solemn rivet
first, I'm focusing on making it work
young walrus
how dare you
exotic venture
well it seems to work
solemn rivet
after it's working good enough, I'll make it look nice
I just need to check it works with spells, sharpshadow etc
so, now to load a non-blackmoth save
because that save has literally nothing
exotic venture
one damage nail is great though
i had to edit my 106% savefile just to get that damage back up to 21
blackmoth man
solemn rivet
kek
also, checking every frame doesn't work
because before I can check if hp == 0, the object is destroyed
if (hm.FsmVariables.GetFsmInt("HP").Value - FSMUtility.LocateFSM(go, "damages_enemy").FsmVariables.GetFsmInt("damageDealt").Value <= 0)
but this should work for all damage types
rustic stag
The adventures of Tiny Knight!
https://media.giphy.com/media/3htAOWOHmSVqeyIgmP/giphy.mp4
real cypress
wow
young walrus
lol
odd radish
i love him
daring snow
That's hilarious and I want to play it
daring snow
Sweet
Could probably simulate the zoom with debug mod
Can you change the hotkeys for the scaling?
I happen to use those keys in game lol
buoyant obsidian
I haven't touched ScaleMod in months and probably won't for a while, sorry
daring snow
No worries!
leaden hedge
there is sprites in hpbar @solemn rivet
the darker red is the combo'd hp
the issue is the canvas isn't being destroyed when the enemy is
and also the fact you aren't moving them to where the enemy is
solemn rivet
yeah
fixed those already
thanks!
actually, no
can I move them every frame to the enemy's position?
leaden hedge
yes
although
it'd actually be easier to drop canvas for this
i'll code it Kappa
solemn rivet
can't I use the transform component of the canvas?
leaden hedge
you can
but if it was just an ingame sprite, just doing transform = new Vector3(0,-something,-1) once would work
because transforms are relative to the parent
alternatively yes
you could change the rect data of every health_bar every frame
bonus points for the sprite, you wouldn't have to check for damage anymore
because when the parent was deleted, the sprite will be too
solemn rivet
can I show what I've done so far?
leaden hedge
go for it
solemn rivet
basically I add this to every enemy on hit
leaden hedge
tbqh instead of doing on hit
and checking if its dead
just add a hook to HealthManager.ctor()
and HealthManager.Die(float?, AttackTypes, bool)
solemn rivet
oh, but that's for pre-beta
leaden hedge
ok, add a hook to PlayMakerFsm via reflection and just add a new action for creating the hpbars, and a new action for deleting them and add those to all health_manager fsms 
solemn rivet
rain cedar
yes
solemn rivet
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