#archived-modding-development | Hollow Knight | Page 74

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 2:21 AM

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Can I see your full code?

rustic stag Apr 6, 2018, 2:21 AM

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void EnemyHealthRandomizer()
        {
            GameObject[] gameObject = GameObject.FindObjectsOfType<GameObject>();
            List<HealthManager> enemies = new List<HealthManager>();
            foreach (GameObject go in gameObject)
            {
                if (!Equals(go.GetComponent<HealthManager>(), null))
                    enemies.Add(go.GetComponent<HealthManager>());
            }
            enemies.Select(i => i.hp *= 2);
            Log($@"{List<HealthManager>}");
        }

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 2:21 AM

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Log($"{enemies.Length}");

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use sean's

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it's better

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mine was a hackjob

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 2:22 AM

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Wait is that a constructor?

rustic stag Apr 6, 2018, 2:24 AM

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rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 2:24 AM

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Length is a field, not a function

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But still, why are you doing any of this in your constructor?

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Actually no I think I'm being stupid

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You don't put void on a constructor, the name of the function was just messing with my head

rustic stag Apr 6, 2018, 2:26 AM

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That's all fine. I'm still very confused myself.

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 2:27 AM

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Did you get the log working?

rustic stag Apr 6, 2018, 2:27 AM

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No, it's giving me an error. No definition for 'Length'

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 2:28 AM

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Log($"{enemies.Length}");

rustic stag Apr 6, 2018, 2:28 AM

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Same problem

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 2:31 AM

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oh, you're using my code

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it's count then

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because it's a list rather than an array

rustic stag Apr 6, 2018, 2:31 AM

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Ooooh okay.
Testing now.

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Oh boy!

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copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 2:39 AM

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you're using the beta, right?

rustic stag Apr 6, 2018, 2:39 AM

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Correct

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 2:39 AM

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are you using the right .net

rustic stag Apr 6, 2018, 2:39 AM

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I would assume so

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 2:40 AM

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They actually changed their unity version in the beta

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So don't assume that

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 2:40 AM

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^

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 2:40 AM

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I don't know what .net it is exactly but probably 4.0

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 2:40 AM

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gradow was getting that because he was using a different .net iirc

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 2:40 AM

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Since I think it was 3.5 before

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 2:41 AM

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it's still 3.5

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I had to recompile blackmoth

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I was building it in 4.2 until the beta

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no idea how it didn't crash miserably

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 2:42 AM

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zote

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rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 2:42 AM

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I guess you were just coincidentally not using any features from beyond 3.5

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 2:42 AM

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all of my stuff is .net 4.6 and 4.5

rustic stag Apr 6, 2018, 2:42 AM

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So I should just update .NET then?

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 2:42 AM

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no

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turn it down

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to 3.5

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 2:42 AM

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^

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 2:42 AM

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In visual studio settings

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 2:42 AM

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also, try sean's code ffs

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 2:43 AM

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Project --> (Solution name) Properties --> Target Framework

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 2:43 AM

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copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 2:43 AM

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how do you all live with compact wtf

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 2:43 AM

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even in the right .net my code is way more likely to give an exception

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 2:43 AM

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How do you live without compact?

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 2:44 AM

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compact = life

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 2:44 AM

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You can only see like 2 messages at a time

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So much wasted space

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 2:44 AM

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true

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but discord's compact is ugly

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 2:44 AM

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It looks fine

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 2:44 AM

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reminds me of irc

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specially with the roles in the right-hand side

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 2:45 AM

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figured it out

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compact doesn't have messages all starting from the same point

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unlike most irc clients

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 2:45 AM

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true

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 2:45 AM

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I'll probably change that via betterdiscord then switch

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 2:49 AM

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did it work, esipode?

rustic stag Apr 6, 2018, 2:50 AM

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Haven't tested yet. Still changing things.

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Alright, well it logs just fine

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rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 2:58 AM

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But changing the hp doesn't do anything?

rustic stag Apr 6, 2018, 2:59 AM

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Nope

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Though I haven't tried your code yet

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I should do that now

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 2:59 AM

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No, that's not the issue

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I'm willing to bet the issue is select

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 3:00 AM

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isn't he using gradow's code tho

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with the foreach and the list

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wait nope

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 3:00 AM

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Try:

enemies.All(x => { x.hp *= 3; return x; })

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Or just do a loop because that looks like shit

rustic stag Apr 6, 2018, 3:03 AM

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Well it works

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Health changes

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 3:03 AM

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Cool

rustic stag Apr 6, 2018, 3:05 AM

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Thanks for the help, guys!
Now I just have to do the same for enemy movement/attack speed and the geo drops!

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 3:05 AM

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Geo drops is easy at least

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It's just variables on the HealthManager

rustic stag Apr 6, 2018, 3:06 AM

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I was looking through HealthManager and couldn't figure out how to get the values.

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 3:06 AM

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iirc they're private

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 3:06 AM

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Reflection

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 3:07 AM

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idk about attack speed, but you can change attack damage with the HitInstanceHook

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 3:07 AM

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Have variables like:

private static FieldInfo smallGeoDrops = typeof(HealthManager).GetField("smallGeoDrops", BindingFlags.Instance | BindingFlags.NonPublic);```

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Then just use GetValue/SetValue

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 3:08 AM

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and cache the fieldinfo

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 3:08 AM

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Yeah that's why I put it as static

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Just put that at the top of your class, no reason to do it more than once

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 3:08 AM

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tfw blind

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 3:09 AM

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Anyway attack speed/move speed are not worth the effort

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You'd have to change the FSM that controls their AI at runtime

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 3:10 AM

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can't you just change the tk2danimator animation stuff

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 3:10 AM

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For attack speed yeah

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Didn't think of that, but it should work

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Not for move speed

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 3:11 AM

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random attack/move speed

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irk

rustic stag Apr 6, 2018, 3:11 AM

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I'm actually getting a little ahead of myself, now that I look at it. I need a way to get the health randomization to change as a percentage.

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 3:12 AM

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Multiply by a random float instead of 3

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Done

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 3:12 AM

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*= a fraction?

rustic stag Apr 6, 2018, 3:12 AM

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What I'm trying to do is like this

enemies.All(x => { x.hp *= UnityEngine.Random.Range(0.5f, 1.5f); ; return true; });

But float no work

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 3:12 AM

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isn't hp an int

rustic stag Apr 6, 2018, 3:12 AM

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Exactly

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 3:12 AM

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round it

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u dungo

rustic stag Apr 6, 2018, 3:12 AM

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How do

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just math.round?

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 3:13 AM

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Integers round automatically

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 3:13 AM

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^

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 3:13 AM

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So what's not working about it now?

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Like it gives an error or nothing changes?

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If it's the latter that's a fairly likely outcome on enemies with low hp

rustic stag Apr 6, 2018, 3:13 AM

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I just can't compile a float

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 3:14 AM

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What's the error?

rustic stag Apr 6, 2018, 3:14 AM

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Would this work?

enemies.All(x => { x.hp *= UnityEngine.Random.Range(1/4, 3/2); ; return true; });

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And it just can't convert float to int

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 3:14 AM

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That's going to do random between 0 and 1

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Because of integer division

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Random.Range should be able to take floats

rustic stag Apr 6, 2018, 3:15 AM

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Which it can. But I think the health wont take floats because it's an int

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 3:15 AM

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There's an implicit conversion from float to int

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That's no issue

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 3:15 AM

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do it like this

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rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 3:15 AM

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What is the exact error?

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 3:16 AM

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🤔

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rustic stag Apr 6, 2018, 3:16 AM

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rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 3:16 AM

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Huh

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Then yeah do what 56 said

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Really weird error, though

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Should be able to implicitly convert between all the number types

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 3:17 AM

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56 is a number, he gets numbers better than anyone tbf

rustic stag Apr 6, 2018, 3:19 AM

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Not sure how to do that in a range between 2 floats

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 3:19 AM

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Just put (int) right before the function

rustic stag Apr 6, 2018, 3:19 AM

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OOH I'M SO DUMB

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 3:20 AM

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Also I'm testing and I can't find any situation where an implicit cast between float/int works, but I swear I've done that before

rustic stag Apr 6, 2018, 3:20 AM

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I'm gonna delete this tangled mess I just made

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 3:21 AM

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Probably just thinking of functions that take float arguments as an overload then internally convert to int

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Actually no that's a terrible way to do it

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You'll be multiplying their hp by either 0 or 1 always

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 3:23 AM

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~~wouldn't that just multiply by an integer of 1~~

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 3:23 AM

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x.hp = (int)(x.hp * UnityEngine.Random.Range(0.5f, 1.5f));```

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 3:27 AM

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^

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also, it implicitly converts int to float when multiplying them

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 3:36 AM

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I guess that makes sense

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Implicit float to int would result in a lot of accidental rounding

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Int to float has no accuracy loss, though

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 3:38 AM

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for some reason SceneChanged isn't getting called

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is it an issue with the beta?

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 3:38 AM

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i think they changed something w/ game manager

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iirc it was working for me w/ kerr's api tho

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 3:38 AM

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Yeah it could very well be how they've changed the loading

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 3:38 AM

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I'm using kerr's api tho

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 3:38 AM

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wtf

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 3:38 AM

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not the one with enemy rando

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 3:38 AM

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use that one

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imo

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 3:38 AM

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maybe he fixed it?

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ok

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 3:39 AM

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probably

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i was getting hell mod on scene change logs

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~~and regretting putting those in~~

pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 3:39 AM

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which hook?

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i'll double check

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 3:39 AM

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SceneChanged

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 3:39 AM

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wait no my scene load is unity scene load

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mantis gods was working tho and it uses scene load

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 3:40 AM

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ModHooks.Instance.SceneChanged += ResetPosition;

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 3:40 AM

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I always use Unity's sceneLoaded

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 3:40 AM

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k, will try that

pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 3:40 AM

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yeah i use unity's

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 3:40 AM

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More reliable from what I've seen

pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 3:40 AM

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so idk about the modhooks one

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 3:40 AM

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UnityEngine.SceneManagement.SceneManager.sceneLoaded += OnSceneLoad;

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 3:41 AM

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Worst thing about that hook is how long the name is

pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 3:41 AM

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it's true

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 3:41 AM

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Need to always use the full name to prevent it from looking at some other SceneManager

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 3:42 AM

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hm...

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can't find the parameters

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 3:43 AM

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w h y

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rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 3:44 AM

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Just stop using 7z lmao

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 3:44 AM

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nvm got it

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 3:44 AM

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my send to compressed doesn't work

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 3:44 AM

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Nothing can handle your archives

pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 3:44 AM

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ah, yeah, it looks like scene manager now calls a different kind of scene load than before so that hook isn't being called

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 3:45 AM

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i actually would

pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 3:45 AM

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i mean, it is, just not on every transition

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 3:45 AM

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but the send to compressed button does nothing

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 3:45 AM

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Fix your shit

pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 3:45 AM

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the old function still gets called when you die in steel soul

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so there's that i guess

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        else if (this.playerData.permadeathMode == 2)
        {
            this.LoadScene("PermaDeath");
        }

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hehe

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 3:46 AM

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Useful

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 3:46 AM

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right-click -> 7zip -> add to "whatever.zip"

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it works for me

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 3:47 AM

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i swear i tested this with system.io.compression tho

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had to reset my 7zip settings

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installer has wrong zip

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 3:48 AM

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wut

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 3:48 AM

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yea

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 3:48 AM

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hollowwoke

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I thought you updated the link on gdrive?

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 3:49 AM

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uhh

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what link

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 3:49 AM

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that's y

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dis one u dungo

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copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 3:49 AM

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no that one's updated

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 3:50 AM

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wut

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 3:50 AM

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if you download it

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and check the installer's zip

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they have different stuff

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 3:50 AM

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but did you add it as a new file and delete the older one, or did you update it?

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 3:50 AM

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delete + add

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 3:50 AM

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that's why

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I'm using the older one's link

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ok

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 3:50 AM

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o

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 3:50 AM

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I'll fix it

pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 3:50 AM

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ffs

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 3:50 AM

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i can just untrash

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i think

pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 3:50 AM

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i been wondering why spawning this prefab keeps ending up null next frame

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so i print the components and find this

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PlayAudioAndRecycle

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 3:51 AM

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I always update the gdrive's links so mine and kerr's installers won't have issues

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 3:51 AM

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updated old one now

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works happygrub

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 3:52 AM

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was just about to change the link in the installer

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kek

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 3:52 AM

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Wait you hard coded download links in your installer?

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 3:53 AM

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yeah

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but, listen to me

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 3:53 AM

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uhh

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it installs a good ol

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nothing

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 3:53 AM

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me and kerr tried very hard to programmatically get it from the drive with no success

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because to get drive links you need acc permission

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so the installer would have to ask whoever is using it to logon into their google acc

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this was the best way we could find

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also, lemme check 56

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 3:54 AM

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i think untrashing changes the link because nothing happens

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 3:54 AM

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Ah right

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A slightly better solution is a text file in the drive with links

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Easier to update

pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 3:55 AM

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that's what mine does

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 3:55 AM

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https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B_b9PFqx_PR9Um9MeFZMV21oWGs

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🤔

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 3:55 AM

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yup

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but I'm too lazy for that

pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 3:55 AM

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anyone can update the links on the drive

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has optional alternate links for gog version & you can specify mod dependencies

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 3:55 AM

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Cool

pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 3:56 AM

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actually, any mods posted in discord could be added to it if someone wanted to add links to the file

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like darkmod or w/e

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 3:57 AM

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huh

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 3:57 AM

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Lazy

pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 3:57 AM

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basically

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 3:57 AM

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I'll check why it isn't working first thing tomorrow morning

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for, now, sleep

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 3:57 AM

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elderbug

pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 3:59 AM

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psst

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 3:59 AM

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neat

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pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 3:59 AM

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@copper nacelle wanna see what i'm workin' on?

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 4:00 AM

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yes

pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 4:00 AM

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https://github.com/Kerr1291/EnemyRandomizer/blob/master/EnemyRandomizerDll/EnemyRandomizer/Components/HornetBoss1.cs

GitHub

Kerr1291/EnemyRandomizer

EnemyRandomizer - Enemy Randomizer mod for Hollow Knight

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 4:01 AM

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But why?

pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 4:01 AM

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converting hornet from fsm into code

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sounded like fun, mostly

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 4:02 AM

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What's the point of this? https://github.com/Kerr1291/EnemyRandomizer/blob/master/EnemyRandomizerDll/EnemyRandomizer/Components/HornetBoss1.cs#L1681

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You're never gonna be working in editor

pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 4:02 AM

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oh, that's for when i'm working on another machine i have

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it's in the unity editor, and no hollow knight on the machine

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 4:03 AM

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Cool

pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 4:03 AM

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in unity tho i'm using unity's UnityTest framework for unit/integration tests

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half tdd as i build it there

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since it's faster to run tests on the state machines with mocks than boot up hollow knight

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basically, i'm devving on two different machines

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one in unity, one not, so that's why

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 4:05 AM

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That makes sense

pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 4:09 AM

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data that i'm converting from: https://github.com/Kerr1291/EnemyRandomizer/blob/master/EnemyRandomizerDll/EnemyRandomizer/MiscHelperData/Fungus1_04_boss#L1108

GitHub

Kerr1291/EnemyRandomizer

EnemyRandomizer - Enemy Randomizer mod for Hollow Knight

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 4:11 AM

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Looks pretty overly complicated for what hornet is

pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 4:11 AM

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yeah, i've been trying to keep the conversion in code as close to the original, but i think a lot will be simplified once i'm done

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i've already found a few things that were just hard coded values that i've changed into things like raycasts, which will make it more flexible

pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 4:30 AM

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pfft, when i load up the game and my test throws a nullref, hornet just falls past the screen and goes "oof" off the bottom and dies with a camera shake

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very fitting

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 4:30 AM

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Haha nice

sturdy jetty Apr 6, 2018, 5:33 AM

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@pearl sentinel Your 1.3.0.6 API + Boss Rush mod does not work on 1.3.0.6.

When I start the Boss Rush, it clips me beneath the surface.

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 5:33 AM

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why are you mentioning him tho

pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 5:33 AM

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that's a problem with boss rush, nothing to do with me

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most mods are broken in the beta

sturdy jetty Apr 6, 2018, 5:34 AM

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To let him know, so he can fix it?

pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 5:34 AM

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*broken in some way

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my mod is enemy randomizer, which is sorta ok now in the beta

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 5:35 AM

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@leaden hedge Some guy doesn't know how to @ you

sturdy jetty Apr 6, 2018, 5:36 AM

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This is for Microsoft Windows port by the way.

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 5:37 AM

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That's pretty irrelevant

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All the mods use a single cross platform file

pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 5:42 AM

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heh, finally getting my title display working

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https://puu.sh/zXicx/9bcc9bd53d.png

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(this was auto generated by the game)

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after fighting with the fsms on the title for 3 hours i just deleted them all and poof i got it working

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 5:45 AM

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lol

pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 5:46 AM

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i love these lines so much

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 foreach(PlayMakerFSM p in areaTitle.GetComponentsInChildren<PlayMakerFSM>())
            {
                GameObject.DestroyImmediate( p );
            }

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it's like typing freedom

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 5:47 AM

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Now do that for every object in every scene and make the game still work

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I'd be happy

sturdy jetty Apr 6, 2018, 5:50 AM

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What are the best mods to try out?

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 5:51 AM

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all of them

pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 5:51 AM

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^

sturdy jetty Apr 6, 2018, 5:54 AM

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I see.

pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 6:05 AM

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hey it works

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https://puu.sh/zXiNN/0af29c7ff5.jpg

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and now it's just:

ShowBossTitle("#MODDING STRIKES BACK", "GET READY FOR", "PART 2: ELECTRIC BOOGALOO", "HORNET");

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 6:10 AM

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This has great meme potential

pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 6:12 AM

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inb4 consumed the something something

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 6:20 AM

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pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 6:24 AM

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holy shit it works, well, so far as i have it implemented anyway

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animations, sound effects, title, music starts, she whips her weapon out, and nopes out of the room (because that's where the implemented logic ended)

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but, that's all the hard stuff, getting the functions working to extract the parts from the fsms

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time for bed, but soon i'll have a hard mode hornet happygrub

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The best part, is that if each part of her is controllable by a method, i could bind the movements and attacks to keys and mark them as able to damage enemies.....

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 6:28 AM

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now get that guy to pay you

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ez

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 6:28 AM

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I feel like Hornet as is in the game wouldn't make a very good playable character

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She's designed as a boss so everything she does is kinda slow

pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 6:29 AM

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yeah, but you're assuming i'd keep the slow wind-ups and stuff

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all that is gonna be easy to configure with the new design

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some of it is already

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 6:30 AM

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Neat

pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 6:32 AM

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omggrub i'm stupidly excited by how this is going

sturdy jetty Apr 6, 2018, 6:54 AM

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Wait, is Kerr making a new mod?

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What is Kerr's new mod about?

exotic venture Apr 6, 2018, 6:56 AM

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a hard mode hornet

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probably faster attacks and such

sturdy jetty Apr 6, 2018, 6:57 AM

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You mean the player is controlling The Knight to fight a more difficult Hornet boss?

exotic venture Apr 6, 2018, 6:59 AM

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yes

sturdy jetty Apr 6, 2018, 7:00 AM

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I see. I am excited to play this.

exotic venture Apr 6, 2018, 7:03 AM

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unless it's like

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a playable hornet

pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 7:07 AM

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why not both thinkgrub

exotic venture Apr 6, 2018, 7:07 AM

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hollowwoke

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beating hornet as hornet

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ok

pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 7:08 AM

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I'd replace the hornet boss with something else

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 7:08 AM

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Just replace it with a swarm of primal aspids tbh

pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 7:09 AM

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primalaspid

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 7:09 AM

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replace it with the aspid boss

pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 7:09 AM

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Apparently it scares the shit out of someone that streamed enemy rando last time

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I feel successful in my endeavors

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 7:10 AM

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who streamed it

pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 7:10 AM

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Ushisomething

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 7:10 AM

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~~ushbeti~~Ushebti?

pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 7:10 AM

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Yeah

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Check the vods

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 7:10 AM

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neat

pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 7:11 AM

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Managed to beat it

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Took him like 6 hours

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 7:11 AM

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w/ projectiles working?

exotic venture Apr 6, 2018, 7:11 AM

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"it scared the shit out of him"

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well of course he would be scared shitless

pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 7:11 AM

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Oh I meant best the game

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 7:11 AM

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o

pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 7:11 AM

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No he couldn't kill it

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His is the nerfed version too

exotic venture Apr 6, 2018, 7:12 AM

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the fear struck him hard

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 7:12 AM

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tfw only part of vod i can find is the loading screen

pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 7:12 AM

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Rip

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Check clips? I heard ppl clipped it

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 7:13 AM

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lmao

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found it

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https://clips.twitch.tv/SplendidPrettyTrollTheTarFu

exotic venture Apr 6, 2018, 7:15 AM

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look at him

📎 unknown.png

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he's terrified

pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 7:16 AM

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That's awesome

exotic venture Apr 6, 2018, 7:16 AM

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also i thought this game didn't have jumpscares

pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 7:16 AM

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That went just how I hoped it would for someone going in blind

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The first version of it was also bugged and could chase you down into crossroads

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Now that was sacry

fair rampart Apr 6, 2018, 12:36 PM

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Just curious but
What's the programming language for Hollow Knight mods :0
Is it like C#?

pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 1:00 PM

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Yep

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 1:03 PM

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Precisely

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Also, that giant aspid is glorious

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primalaspid

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mylajoy

fair rampart Apr 6, 2018, 1:13 PM

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Figures since it was made in Unity,,
Ty for answer!

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 1:34 PM

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np! There was someone offering money for a multiplayer mod yesterday, so you should go for that

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zote

pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 1:34 PM

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anyone know off the top of their head how much hp hornet has?

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 1:35 PM

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225

pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 1:35 PM

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awesome, ty

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 1:35 PM

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📎 unknown.png

pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 1:35 PM

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i want to tweak a few of her variables so they're dynamic with her hp instead of hard coded

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she apparently goes into "escalation" at 90 hp

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 1:36 PM

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now that I think of it, that's why people seem to have trouble with hornet. Hornet1 is 45 nail hits to kill

pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 1:36 PM

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so that'll be 40%

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well, hopefully some people realize they can use spells

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when i first fought her i died a few times too, but i remember going "oh i have another attack"

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 1:37 PM

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my first playthrough I did all bosses nail only

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dunno why

pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 1:37 PM

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i was the same for the most part

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 1:37 PM

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it was not even a self-imposed challenge

pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 1:37 PM

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after i got some nail charms i figured spells weren't worth it

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 1:37 PM

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I simply didn't think of using spells

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yeah

pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 1:38 PM

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actually, my radiance fight is pretty nuts watching it now

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 1:38 PM

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ugh, radiance

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I hate it so much

pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 1:39 PM

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https://youtu.be/_qH9E_nC-Sc?t=15s

YouTube

Kerr

Hollow Knight - Radiance Boss Fight - Success!

Highlight of my 2nd attempt against Radiance. This was a blind run and my previous attempt was not so good. She was a tough one. -- Watch live at https://www...

▶ Play video

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2nd try

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at 3am

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 1:45 PM

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idk if I have it recorded, prolly not

pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 1:53 PM

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you ever do a game jam?

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http://ldjam.com/ is comin' up in 14 days, i highly recommend it

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 1:56 PM

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ehhhh

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I have literally 0 experience coding

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specially games

pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 1:56 PM

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so?

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and, you've actually done a good amount

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 1:56 PM

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and I'm working on a paper for my phd at the moment...

pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 1:57 PM

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i did my first jam during a crunch, but stuff with deadlines comes first ofc

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but, watch the jam imo

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maybe do it next time

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 1:57 PM

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yeah, I'll be sure to watch

pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 1:57 PM

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they get around 3000 entries

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 1:57 PM

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tbf I plan on investing more time to coding games in the future, after I'm done with all this academic nonsense

pearl sentinel Apr 6, 2018, 1:58 PM

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so it's not like people are gonna crap on you for participating and sucking or something

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 1:58 PM

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yeah...

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 3:08 PM

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@copper nacelle this should work

📎 ModInstaller.exe

leaden hedge Apr 6, 2018, 3:35 PM

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If anyone complains about boss rush just tell them I have no intent on fixing a mod that's probably becoming vanilla, just so it works on a beta patch

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 3:35 PM

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that's actually a very good point

leaden hedge Apr 6, 2018, 3:35 PM

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If gng gamemode isn't bossrush I'll fix it then

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 3:35 PM

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inb4 gng new gamemode is blackmoth

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since that's the case, I won't work on blackmoth or bonfire either

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because, maybe, they are the new gamemode

leaden hedge Apr 6, 2018, 3:38 PM

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The classic metroidvania gamemode, dash only hollowface

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 3:40 PM

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yup

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have you ever seen SOTN Richter all bosses

rustic stag Apr 6, 2018, 4:55 PM

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Such fond memories moonwalking through SOTN
that's why I dash/roll everywhere in games now

exotic venture Apr 6, 2018, 6:02 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TybEg71YtUY this is pretty hilarious not gonna lie

YouTube

Mystery

Basically, Glowing Womb (and minion summons)

think they got a new damage type that allows for that stagger count to be viable

▶ Play video

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 6:09 PM

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kek

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I didn't know they don't explode on that dummy

exotic venture Apr 6, 2018, 6:13 PM

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it's great cause it also showcases how they managed to get that stagger count going up

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they just changed the type of damage to nail dmg with a modifier

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but they forgot to remove the recoil

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so you end up with this

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it's great

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 6:15 PM

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kek

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if those guys didn't explode, they'd be so fun to use on bosses

exotic venture Apr 6, 2018, 6:18 PM

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except it'd be like, a constant wind blowing

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also i want to see if steady body negates this stuff

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 6:18 PM

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I can try and make something real quick to see if it works

exotic venture Apr 6, 2018, 6:19 PM

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you mean, that they don't explode?

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 6:19 PM

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yeah

exotic venture Apr 6, 2018, 6:19 PM

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pft

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 6:19 PM

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and try to remove recoil

exotic venture Apr 6, 2018, 6:19 PM

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i thought that was the fun part!

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in the end of the video you can see me standing still and slowly sliding out of the room

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 6:20 PM

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it's like that Celeste level

exotic venture Apr 6, 2018, 6:20 PM

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yeah!

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 10:57 PM

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Wut

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https://youtu.be/DOt-CLCuJUY

YouTube

Team Cherry

Hollow Knight New Game Mode Trailer: Multiplayer & New Game Plus [...

▶ Play video

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Multiplayer

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noot

wide crown Apr 6, 2018, 10:58 PM

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its as fake as fake

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 11:00 PM

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No this is legit

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I read about it on the internet

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 11:01 PM

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Kek

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Giant knight confirmed

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GnG hidden gamemode is scalemod

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 11:02 PM

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The real reveal here is that the colosseum has a round with like a hundred primal aspids

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 11:44 PM

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Like we were saying earlier

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Multiplayer makes zero sense in hk

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 11:45 PM

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I think it could be fun if it was cooperative, just making it work well is not worth it even slightly

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Even if you managed to fix the huge problem that all the player classes are singletons, how do you deal with load zones?

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What happens if the players are too far apart to be on the same camera screen?

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Do you pool upgrades/geo or instance them?

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Just not worth it

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The best you could realistically do is a second player that can't really interact with the world at all, only fight enemies

fair rampart Apr 6, 2018, 11:58 PM

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if its possible can someone make a boss healthbar mod?

young walrus Apr 7, 2018, 12:00 AM

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check pins

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already exists

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 12:00 AM

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Reminds me of the guy asking for a randomizer mod yesterday

fair rampart Apr 7, 2018, 12:00 AM

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o

young walrus Apr 7, 2018, 12:00 AM

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lol

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 12:00 AM

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The actual worst kind of people

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Not only are they trying to use this channel as their slaves, they can't even be bothered to check what already exists

fair rampart Apr 7, 2018, 12:01 AM

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i didnt find anything in the pins

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 12:01 AM

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It's the first fucking pin jesus

fair rampart Apr 7, 2018, 12:01 AM

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it dosnt say anything about a healthbar

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 12:01 AM

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Yeah I guess that is a bit out of date, but the link is still there

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Alright it looks like the last time Some Dargons posted anything in this channel was february, so I guess I'll take over maintaining that pin

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Here's a folder of all the Mods posted in this channel:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B_b9PFqx_PR9Um9MeFZMV21oWGs?usp=sharing
Message me if you'd like to have a mod added or editing privileges to handle your own mod in the folder.
When looking to see which version a mod is for, check the zip names, if there is no version and it's an API mod, check the Modder's API for version compatability

Current Mods:
Hell Mod (56)
Mantis Gods (56)
Dreamshield Co-Op (753) - Not compatible with other mods
Empress Muzznik (753) - Not compatible with other mods
Glass Soul (753) - Not compatible with other mods
Lightbringer (753) - Not compatible with other mods
ScaleMod (753) - Not compatible with other mods
Blackmoth (Gradow)
Bonfire (Gradow & KDT)
110% (kcghost) - Not compatible with current patch
Cut Content (kcghost) - Not compatible with current patch
FSM (kcghost)
Boss Rush (KDT)
HPBar (KDT)
More Saves (KDT)
Nightmare God Grimm (KDT)
Player Data Tracker (KDT)
Sprite Dumper (KDT)
Enemy Randomizer (Kerr)
Unending Dreams (MaxTCC) - Not compatible with current patch
Charm Notch Mod (Seanpr)
Debug Mod (Seanpr)
Randomizer (Seanpr & Firzen)

Additionally, there is a modding api being maintained by Wyza that is required for most mods to work.

753 is tracking # of downloads for his mod and it's encouraged that you download from the moddb links over from the drive folder. links can be found lower in pinned messages or in the drive readme.

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sturdy jetty Apr 7, 2018, 7:39 AM

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https://www.nexusmods.com/search/

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How do we make a mod page for Hollow Knight on Nexus Mods?

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 7:39 AM

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In order to mod the game we need to distribute basically the entire codebase of the game

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I can't remember where/when but Team Cherry has stated they don't want us doing that super openly, but here is fine

sturdy jetty Apr 7, 2018, 7:41 AM

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I see.

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Did Team Cherry say why they do not want mods to be "too public"?

exotic venture Apr 7, 2018, 7:42 AM

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the codebase of the game = basically everything in the game

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 7:42 AM

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For most games, yes

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Not really this game

sturdy jetty Apr 7, 2018, 7:42 AM

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So Team Cherry does not want people to copy their assets?

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 7:42 AM

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It's very data driven

sturdy jetty Apr 7, 2018, 7:45 AM

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But technically the modders on Discord have access to the entire code base of Hollow Knight?

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 7:45 AM

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That's going to be the case for any game written in .net

sturdy jetty Apr 7, 2018, 7:46 AM

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I see. Nice, so Team Cherry only distributes their code base to trusted modders on Discord?

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 7:46 AM

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No, it's very easy to decompile the game code

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Anyone could do it

sturdy jetty Apr 7, 2018, 7:46 AM

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I see.

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Would you need Unity 3D to mod the code?

exotic venture Apr 7, 2018, 7:47 AM

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dnSpy works

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 7:47 AM

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It's just c#

sturdy jetty Apr 7, 2018, 7:47 AM

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I see.

exotic venture Apr 7, 2018, 7:49 AM

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but yeah the only public mod that isn't contained in a small area is basically just lightbringer

sturdy jetty Apr 7, 2018, 7:49 AM

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I see. So should we tell that person to not upload mods in public next time?

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 7:51 AM

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Team Cherry has mentioned lightbringer specifically in blog posts so they're aware of it

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Even linked the moddb page

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So there's no problem there

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It's hard to get a response from them on anything, so it's hard to know what they're ok with but that is at least clear

sturdy jetty Apr 7, 2018, 7:52 AM

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I see. So what is better modDB or Nexus Mods?

exotic venture Apr 7, 2018, 7:52 AM

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can confirm

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but when you do get a response you get to experience they're sweet lads so it's fine

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except when they decide to kinkshame you on heavy blow.

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just

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don't ever start on that

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also i prefer moddb

sturdy jetty Apr 7, 2018, 7:56 AM

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I see.

pearl sentinel Apr 7, 2018, 8:45 AM

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I can't wait to mod heavy blow so it's good

exotic venture Apr 7, 2018, 8:45 AM

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do you want to see my notes on it

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i sent the same file to will

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/408400116735541249/408403507679592448/heavy_blow.txt actually here fuck it

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 8:48 AM

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So your idea to make heavy blow good is to make it do less of what it's meant to do and more of what good charms do?

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xd

exotic venture Apr 7, 2018, 8:50 AM

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basically, yes

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because knockback is useless in this game and the usecases are so limited it's dumb

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-only regular enemies are affected by it, with exceptions
-a handful of bosses are affected by it, sometimes not in a good way
-there's literally any other 2 notch charm that is better than heavy blow
-if you want knockback why aren't you using spells u dungo

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 8:52 AM

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I wouldn't say knockback is useless

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It's actively harmful

exotic venture Apr 7, 2018, 8:52 AM

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agreed

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it even counters some charms, like longnail and mark of pride with their increased range

pearl sentinel Apr 7, 2018, 8:59 AM

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So @exotic venture my idea for heavy blow I've been excited about was to make it so things get knocked back harder, but anything affected by heavy blow that impacts a surface takes damage based on the force applied. In short, hit things into other things and do tons of damage from the chain reactions.

exotic venture Apr 7, 2018, 9:00 AM

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wouldn't that still fit in with the counterproductivity argument though?

pearl sentinel Apr 7, 2018, 9:01 AM

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Depends of the scaling of the damage, I'd think

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Or amount and behavior of the knockback

exotic venture Apr 7, 2018, 9:02 AM

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yeah, that's another

pearl sentinel Apr 7, 2018, 9:02 AM

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Like, it's bad, but if the kickback was enough to rebound enemies back to you...

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Knock back **

exotic venture Apr 7, 2018, 9:02 AM

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the idea sounds really cool, but how does it affect the different types of enemies

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like the flying ones

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etc

pearl sentinel Apr 7, 2018, 9:03 AM

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Then you could use your damage idea for things immune to knockback

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Flying? Temporarily apply gravity to them

exotic venture Apr 7, 2018, 9:04 AM

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so if no knockback is allowed, it adds damage instead at the cost of swing speed?

pearl sentinel Apr 7, 2018, 9:04 AM

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Basically

exotic venture Apr 7, 2018, 9:04 AM

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interesting

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i'd love to see your knockback mechanism in action

pearl sentinel Apr 7, 2018, 9:04 AM

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Bop em away or bop em hard

exotic venture Apr 7, 2018, 9:04 AM

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see how that pans out

pearl sentinel Apr 7, 2018, 9:05 AM

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Well, I finished my first pass of hornet today. So hopefully I can bug fix her and get to playing with charms soon

exotic venture Apr 7, 2018, 9:06 AM

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viable summoner charms

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a man can dream

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 9:06 AM

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Beta has some okish weaversong buffs

exotic venture Apr 7, 2018, 9:06 AM

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but, not like the minions now "stagger" solution

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because basically they just do nail type dmg

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...with all of its odds and ends

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coughknockbackcough

pearl sentinel Apr 7, 2018, 9:07 AM

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Seanpr, if I converted the Shiney item fsms like hornet, would you use them?

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 9:08 AM

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Yeah probably but it's a fucking mess

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There's like 15 fsm objects on one shiny

pearl sentinel Apr 7, 2018, 9:09 AM

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Yeah, I mean, you've seen the gist of what hornet is

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 9:15 AM

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Worst part about it is they're all hiding

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It's FSMs that spawn more FSMSs

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Not just all there from the start

pearl sentinel Apr 7, 2018, 9:16 AM

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Yeah, prefab references with fsms are frustrating. I've lost a bunch of time dealing with that

solemn rivet Apr 7, 2018, 9:18 AM

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Mystery, I've done a bit of experimenting with knocking back enemies a few days ago

exotic venture Apr 7, 2018, 9:21 AM

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with chain reactions too?

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i'm not as attentive as to what happens everywhere so ya might need to direct me a lil

pearl sentinel Apr 7, 2018, 9:23 AM

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I'll just repost this, because I'm already I'm bed. But I should make one with hornet and "Mystery" on screen tomorrow

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https://puu.sh/zXiNN/0af29c7ff5.jpg

exotic venture Apr 7, 2018, 9:27 AM

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p f t

pearl sentinel Apr 7, 2018, 9:29 AM

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With great power comes great memes

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Or something like that

boreal valve Apr 7, 2018, 9:29 AM

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Make one with "Loremaster Jonny Arrives"
Part 1: The Misspelling

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:^)

solemn rivet Apr 7, 2018, 9:30 AM

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I can't find it, but when I get home I'll post the video again

pearl sentinel Apr 7, 2018, 9:30 AM

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I'll make a title for anyone that wants one tomorrow. Takes me literally seconds now

solemn rivet Apr 7, 2018, 9:30 AM

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Nice

sturdy jetty Apr 7, 2018, 11:27 AM

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When will Mystery's mod be finished?

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Also why is his or her name Mystery2me on Steam and Mystery5me on Reddit?

exotic venture Apr 7, 2018, 11:46 AM

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mystery2me was taken

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:^)

sturdy jetty Apr 7, 2018, 11:46 AM

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I see.

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 1:34 PM

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hmm uh

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why is it that, despite randomizer being installed perfectly well, i can't make my saves, well, random

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(yes, i've turned off beta)

pearl sentinel Apr 7, 2018, 3:33 PM

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randomizer alters the item placements on a new save only

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 4:15 PM

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yeah, i'm making new saves but the randomizer menu just doesn't come up

vagrant leaf Apr 7, 2018, 4:15 PM

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do you have both files

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 4:15 PM

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you mean API and Randomizer?

vagrant leaf Apr 7, 2018, 4:15 PM

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no i mean randomizer and the folder called randomizer you put next to Hollow_Knight_data

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the dll and the folder are different things

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and you need them both

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 4:16 PM

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yeah i have both

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the mod is loading fine

vagrant leaf Apr 7, 2018, 4:16 PM

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idk then

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it works fine for me normally

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 4:16 PM

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it even has the randomizer logo in the lower right

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it just doesn't actually let me randomize anything

vagrant leaf Apr 7, 2018, 4:17 PM

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did you test it out on fotf

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 4:17 PM

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yeah

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i did once

vagrant leaf Apr 7, 2018, 4:17 PM

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and it was just fotf?

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 4:17 PM

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could have just been a coincidence but yeah

vagrant leaf Apr 7, 2018, 4:17 PM

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weird

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 4:17 PM

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didn't pop up the menu when i made a new save tho

vagrant leaf Apr 7, 2018, 4:17 PM

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maybe try again to see if it was a coincidence

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oh thats it

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do you have ss unlocked?

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you have to have it unlocked for rando to show up

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 4:18 PM

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hm?

vagrant leaf Apr 7, 2018, 4:18 PM

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you have to unlock steel soul

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before you can select rando

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 4:18 PM

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ah i may want to re-beat the game then

vagrant leaf Apr 7, 2018, 4:19 PM

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i mean if it shows up as an option there shouldn't be a problem

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 4:19 PM

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it doesn't i think

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when i press new save it just

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goes straight into cutscenes

vagrant leaf Apr 7, 2018, 4:19 PM

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ah

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that's it

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you have to unlock steel soul

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so maybe beat thk again

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 4:19 PM

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i just formatted my pc and reinstalled the game, that why?

vagrant leaf Apr 7, 2018, 4:20 PM

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most likely but i'm not sure

copper nacelle Apr 7, 2018, 4:20 PM

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just grab the save in #hk-discussion

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and then kill thk

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ez

vagrant leaf Apr 7, 2018, 4:20 PM

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^

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 4:20 PM

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i already have an endgame save

vagrant leaf Apr 7, 2018, 4:20 PM

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in pins

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 4:20 PM

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cloud sync baby

vagrant leaf Apr 7, 2018, 4:20 PM

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oh then just beat thk

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that'll unlock ss

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 4:20 PM

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~~implying i wont go for radiance like an idiot~~

vagrant leaf Apr 7, 2018, 4:20 PM

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radiance only way tbh

copper nacelle Apr 7, 2018, 4:21 PM

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fluke radiance ez

vagrant leaf Apr 7, 2018, 4:21 PM

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shriek radiance ez

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 4:22 PM

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shriek only way to play hk tbh

vagrant leaf Apr 7, 2018, 4:22 PM

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shriek only run when

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 4:22 PM

#

when randomizer places shriek at FotF

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actually

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someone should make a blackmoth like thing but instead of dash it's shriek

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also i should learn to mod instead of soliciting shitty meme mods from other people

copper nacelle Apr 7, 2018, 4:24 PM

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do it

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 4:32 PM

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gonna try the seed 9112001

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let's see if it puts something fun at FotF

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lmao dream nail is at FotF

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 9:06 PM

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ladies and gents, only in randomizer

📎 20180407230555_1.jpg

exotic venture Apr 7, 2018, 9:07 PM

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ah yes, taken the longnail

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 9:07 PM

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um

exotic venture Apr 7, 2018, 9:07 PM

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not as funny as Consumed the Hiveblood though

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 9:07 PM

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how tf do i get out of the hornet boss room

exotic venture Apr 7, 2018, 9:07 PM

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save and quit

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 9:07 PM

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No

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The cutscene triggers after you walk right then back left

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It's like that in base game, not a randomizer thing

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 9:08 PM

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no i mean

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i dont have dash

exotic venture Apr 7, 2018, 9:08 PM

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save and quit

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 9:08 PM

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Ah right yeah if you've got no movement abilities quit

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 9:08 PM

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yeah

exotic venture Apr 7, 2018, 9:08 PM

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i know what i'm about son

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 9:08 PM

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i'm doing that

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i have claw but that doesn't help me much

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 9:08 PM

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You can get out with just claw

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 9:09 PM

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the first jump is insane

exotic venture Apr 7, 2018, 9:09 PM

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but save and quit is standard practice

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 9:09 PM

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unless you want me to do some crazy level storage flying shit

exotic venture Apr 7, 2018, 9:10 PM

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why bother with anything else

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 9:10 PM

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which i'm determined not to do

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anyway yes now to go to somewhere

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 9:10 PM

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For good jumps with just claw you need to drop off your current platform and wall jump off the edge of it

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Good to know for randomizer

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 9:10 PM

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i see

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anyway uh

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next is fungal, then

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 9:11 PM

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What stuff do you have to get into fungal?

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Right, claw

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 9:11 PM

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claw

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rn i have

exotic venture Apr 7, 2018, 9:12 PM

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you can get into fungal with just vengeful

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or wraiths

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 9:13 PM

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joni's memes
memeshield
vengeful memes
longmeme
meme claw

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 9:13 PM

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You on hard?

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If you're on hard vengeful spirit is a terrible item to get early

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Might end up fucking you

exotic venture Apr 7, 2018, 9:14 PM

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because that means insane skips yo

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 9:14 PM

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nah i'm on easy

exotic venture Apr 7, 2018, 9:14 PM

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oh then dash is somewhere nearby

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 9:14 PM

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likw

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in greenpath?

exotic venture Apr 7, 2018, 9:14 PM

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try getting to resting grounds

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 9:14 PM

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Just go wherever

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Claw lets you do stuff

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 9:15 PM

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i mean

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technically i could go just about anywhere with vengeful spirit

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but i'm not about that thug life

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except item duplication

exotic venture Apr 7, 2018, 9:16 PM

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the mod is coded so that you can finish the game any% nmg

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no need to float

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 9:17 PM

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yea ik

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just saying that even if i did have to float, i'd rather try to avoid it

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i'm not about that life yo

#

is this jump doable with only mantis claw?

📎 20180407232127_1.jpg

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i say, and then immediately make the jump

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ahahaha baldur shell was heavy blow

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i came all this way for heavy blow

exotic venture Apr 7, 2018, 9:24 PM

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yep.

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that sounds like a randomizer run

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 9:27 PM

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but hey

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i can dupe king idols

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so it's all worth it

#

wait hol up

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relics are shuffled?

exotic venture Apr 7, 2018, 9:30 PM

#

yes

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 9:30 PM

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Yeah rip

exotic venture Apr 7, 2018, 9:30 PM

#

you just got pranked

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 9:30 PM

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because i coulda sworn the one at ground level in this place was a king idol

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i thought i was duping king idols

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reeeeeee

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 9:30 PM

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What is it instead?

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 9:30 PM

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it was a wanderer's journal

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 9:30 PM

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Haha nice

exotic venture Apr 7, 2018, 9:30 PM

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pft

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actually perfect

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 9:31 PM

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welp at least i have a grand total of 15 wanderer journals now

exotic venture Apr 7, 2018, 9:31 PM

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nice

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 9:31 PM

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That's gonna take a bit to sell

exotic venture Apr 7, 2018, 9:31 PM

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hey at least in the end you got a

#

moderate

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amount of geo

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it's still not "lemm eat ten egg" amount

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but it is something

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 9:32 PM

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3000 geo

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 9:32 PM

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I bet I could make a mod so that interacting with lemm just sells all instantly without him even talking

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It's amazing nobody has done that yet

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 9:33 PM

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oh thank god yes please god do that

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actually

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if possible

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make that an option

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it's fun to listen to his rambles sometimes

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 9:33 PM

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Options in randomizer is something I want to do, yeah

exotic venture Apr 7, 2018, 9:33 PM

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add a unique dialogue maybe too?

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 9:34 PM

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I'm probably gonna end up just remaking the entire mod for 1.3.0.6 since kerr is doing a thing

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Rather than updating it to work

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 9:43 PM

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nail arts aren't viable item spots reeeee

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 9:46 PM

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I'll get around to it

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 9:46 PM

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ok_grimm

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 10:13 PM

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is it possible to reach city of tears via fungal wastes without dash?

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 10:14 PM

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With crystal heart or isma's tear

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 10:15 PM

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don't have em

copper nacelle Apr 7, 2018, 10:18 PM

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go back to crossroads and shade skip imo

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 10:36 PM

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i don't do that skip life

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i'm gonna go for peak station unlocking

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hidden station first

#

hey is it possible for dash to be at thorns in an easy seed

#

nevermind, found it at salubras

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 11:14 PM

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It's possible

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Mantis claw + crystal heart have to be available without dash

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 11:20 PM

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you have to have dash to get to thorns tho?

young walrus Apr 7, 2018, 11:21 PM

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no

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claw + Crystal heart also works

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 11:22 PM

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I made a quick thing to sell all to Lemm

📎 TenEgg.dll

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Do it by talking to him on the right side

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Actually did it by adding a new action into an FSM, first time I've wanted to do that

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 11:23 PM

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o nice

#

wait where tf did the giant city of tears gate go

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 11:26 PM

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If you've got city crest in randomizer the gate doesn't show up

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It's so you can go both directions through it

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Otherwise there's soft locks

#

Like if you get into city with only crystal heart you'd be fucked

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 11:27 PM

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ah

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i mean

#

you could farm, unlock the city storehouse stag station

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 11:27 PM

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How do you get to storerooms, though?

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 11:27 PM

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riiiight

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if you have a simple key you could get out through sewers if you're badass

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or go through the pleasure house

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question: will the TenEgg thing work on an existing save?

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 11:30 PM

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Yes it will work

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 11:30 PM

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noice

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 11:30 PM

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And I don't see how you could get through waterways with only crystal heart

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 11:30 PM

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lemm consume 16 wanderer journal

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 11:30 PM

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That's a lot of geo

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 11:31 PM

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3200 i believe

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 11:31 PM

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Yeah

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 11:31 PM

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all thanks to the power of item duping

#

hmm

#

tenegg isn't showing up in the upper left corner mod list

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 11:33 PM

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Send your modlog

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 11:33 PM

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on it

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[INFO]:[API] - Adding GitHub SSL Cert to Allow for Checking of Mod Versions
[INFO]:[ModManager] - Initializing
[INFO]:[ModManager] - Initialized
[ERROR]:[API] - Couldn't check for new version.System.IndexOutOfRangeException: Array index is out of range.
  at Modding.ModHooks..ctor () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 
[INFO]:GameLoading
[INFO]:[API] - Trying to load mods
[INFO]:[RandomizerMod] - Instantiating Mod
[INFO]:[RandomizerMod] - Randomizer Mod initializing!
[INFO]:[RandomizerMod] - Randomizer Mod initialized!
[INFO]:[RandomizerMod] - Github = 0.0
[INFO]:Saving Global Settings

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obviously leaving out mod setting loading

#

which would probably go over character limit

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 11:35 PM

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That error is normal, nothing to do with the lemm mod

#

Don't think you put the dll in the right spot

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 11:36 PM

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it's in Mods, in Managed

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 11:36 PM

#

Can you show me a screenshot of that?

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The game isn't even trying to load it

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 11:37 PM

#

📎 unknown.png

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 11:38 PM

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That's pretty odd

#

Are you certain your game isn't running from some other folder?

#

Maybe you have multiple installations or something

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 11:40 PM

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nope

#

just that one

#

just formatted the whole thing

#

and reinstalled

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 11:41 PM

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Oh you just reinstalled the game?

#

Or do you mean your computer?

#

Randomizer is showing up in game still, right?

solemn rivet Apr 7, 2018, 11:41 PM

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I think he means he is playing on a fresh install

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 11:42 PM

#

yeah that

solemn rivet Apr 7, 2018, 11:42 PM

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Weird

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 11:42 PM

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Alright then all I can think of is you haven't reinstalled the API

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And that log is old, from last time you had it

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 11:42 PM

#

randomizer is working

solemn rivet Apr 7, 2018, 11:42 PM

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Send outputlog? Idk

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 11:42 PM

#

again, i just formatted the entire pc

#

like today

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 11:42 PM

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Gradow could you check if the mod works for you?

solemn rivet Apr 7, 2018, 11:43 PM

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Not on pc

#

Mobile imo

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 11:43 PM

#

wait hold on

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 11:43 PM

#

Dang

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 11:43 PM

#

i may be a complete idiot

#

yup

#

somehow

solemn rivet Apr 7, 2018, 11:44 PM

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Forgot to reset the game?

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 11:45 PM

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my tired 1:45 am brain went to main menu, reloaded the save and decided that counted as restarting

solemn rivet Apr 7, 2018, 11:45 PM

#

Yup

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 11:45 PM

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so uh

#

that explains a lot

solemn rivet Apr 7, 2018, 11:45 PM

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Would be great if we could load/unload dlls during runtime

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 11:46 PM

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Oh god no

solemn rivet Apr 7, 2018, 11:46 PM

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Not only enable/disable them

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 11:46 PM

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Not going to be the one to make that work

solemn rivet Apr 7, 2018, 11:46 PM

#

Heh

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 11:46 PM

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You'd have to load all of them in a separate AppDomain and pass things between using some kind of MarshalByRefObject proxy

#

It would be awful

solemn rivet Apr 7, 2018, 11:46 PM

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Eww

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 11:46 PM

#

load/unload dlls while actually playing the game

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nasa get on it

solemn rivet Apr 7, 2018, 11:48 PM

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Theoretically, what would happen if I loaded a mod, disabled it via the in-game menu, then replaced the dll with a different dll but with the same name?

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 11:48 PM

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Nothing

solemn rivet Apr 7, 2018, 11:48 PM

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And then enable the mod

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 11:48 PM

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Disable/enable doesn't reload the mod

pearl sentinel Apr 7, 2018, 11:48 PM

#

https://puu.sh/zYs8M/4a776498e7.png

#

tragic

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 11:48 PM

#

lmao

solemn rivet Apr 7, 2018, 11:48 PM

#

She ded

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 11:49 PM

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cave story flashbacks

pearl sentinel Apr 7, 2018, 11:49 PM

#

but, hornet basically works now. i have some minor bugs left to fix

#

and no fsms on her at all

solemn rivet Apr 7, 2018, 11:49 PM

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Minor bugs

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 11:49 PM

#

She basically works except for when she falls through the floor into the acid

solemn rivet Apr 7, 2018, 11:49 PM

#

hollowlenny

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 11:49 PM

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"""""Minor"""""

pearl sentinel Apr 7, 2018, 11:49 PM

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oh, no she went around the corner

#

then i backed her into it

#

with her little evade jump

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 11:49 PM

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I guess that's a bit better

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 11:49 PM

#

sean pls

#

P L S

#

talking to Lemm does indeed take away all my 16 journals

pearl sentinel Apr 7, 2018, 11:50 PM

#

none of her values are hard coded now tho

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 11:50 PM

#

just doesn't pay me anything for them

pearl sentinel Apr 7, 2018, 11:50 PM

#

so she will function anywhere

solemn rivet Apr 7, 2018, 11:50 PM

#

Best mod

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 11:50 PM

#

You sure you didn't get anything?

solemn rivet Apr 7, 2018, 11:50 PM

#

Lemm is now the government

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 11:50 PM

#

The geo counter ticks up during his dialog

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So you don't see it

solemn rivet Apr 7, 2018, 11:51 PM

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Try changing scenes

#

Updating the geo counter in tgt was a pain

#

Dunno how it is in lifeblood

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 11:51 PM

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I just do this when you talk to him

int money = PlayerData.instance.trinket1 * 200;
money += PlayerData.instance.trinket2 * 450;
money += PlayerData.instance.trinket3 * 800;
money += PlayerData.instance.trinket4 * 1200;

if (money > 0)
{
    HeroController.instance.AddGeo(money);
}

PlayerData.instance.soldTrinket1 += PlayerData.instance.trinket1;
PlayerData.instance.soldTrinket2 += PlayerData.instance.trinket2;
PlayerData.instance.soldTrinket3 += PlayerData.instance.trinket3;
PlayerData.instance.soldTrinket4 += PlayerData.instance.trinket4;

PlayerData.instance.trinket1 = 0;
PlayerData.instance.trinket2 = 0;
PlayerData.instance.trinket3 = 0;
PlayerData.instance.trinket4 = 0;

#

Really simple

solemn rivet Apr 7, 2018, 11:52 PM

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Yeah, in tgt you had to broadcast some fsm event

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 11:52 PM

#

But this is grimm troupe

#

I don't have the beta on my computer

solemn rivet Apr 7, 2018, 11:52 PM

#

Otherwise the geo increase would be silent

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 11:52 PM

#

i'm playing tgt

solemn rivet Apr 7, 2018, 11:52 PM

#

And you only see it in the next scene

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 11:52 PM

#

ah that explains a lot

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 11:52 PM

#

Wait no

#

I see the problem

#

Haha man I'm sorry but you deserve it for duping

#

I had a line when you enter the scene to set your journals to 1 for testing

#

Didn't get rid of it

solemn rivet Apr 7, 2018, 11:53 PM

#

Kek

young walrus Apr 7, 2018, 11:53 PM

#

lol

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 11:53 PM

#

kek

young walrus Apr 7, 2018, 11:53 PM

#

rip journals

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 11:53 PM

#

📎 TenEgg.dll

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 11:53 PM

#

that the updated version?

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 11:54 PM

#

Yeah I removed the testing thing

solemn rivet Apr 7, 2018, 11:54 PM

#

k, am at pc

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 11:54 PM

#

Me too

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 11:55 PM

#

i suppose it's a good thing i alt-f4'd when i realized my journals were gone

rain cedar Apr 7, 2018, 11:55 PM

#

Probably

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 11:55 PM

#

hollowface

solemn rivet Apr 7, 2018, 11:55 PM

#

eww cheater

gusty sparrow Apr 7, 2018, 11:55 PM

#

~~i mean i still do deserve that for duping~~

#

me: i don't do skips, it's cheating
also me: dupes 15 journals

#

tbf tho i did beat the game once, completely legit no-cheating

solemn rivet Apr 7, 2018, 11:59 PM

#

            PlayerData.instance.AddGeo(amount);
            HeroController.instance.AddGeoToCounter(amount);```this is how I add geo in bonfire

gusty sparrow Apr 8, 2018, 12:00 AM

#

aylmao i done do got my money

rain cedar Apr 8, 2018, 12:00 AM

#

You're a dungo gradow

📎 unknown.png

#

📎 unknown.png

#

You've literally just reimplemented the AddGeo function

solemn rivet Apr 8, 2018, 12:01 AM

#

sadgrub

gusty sparrow Apr 8, 2018, 12:01 AM

#

thinkgrub

solemn rivet Apr 8, 2018, 12:01 AM

#

that means I'm a dev right

gusty sparrow Apr 8, 2018, 12:14 AM

#

idea: would it be possible to make the station fee for stag stations really cheap, like, say, 5 or 10 geo, but make you have to pay every time you leave and reenter a station

leaden hedge Apr 8, 2018, 12:14 AM

#

yes

rain cedar Apr 8, 2018, 12:16 AM

#

But why?

paper gazelle Apr 8, 2018, 12:18 AM

#

Is randomizer compatible with Linux?

rain cedar Apr 8, 2018, 12:18 AM

#

Should be, yeah

paper gazelle Apr 8, 2018, 12:22 AM

#

...Do I just drop the folder into the API's mod folder?

#

*mods

rain cedar Apr 8, 2018, 12:23 AM

#

I really have no idea

#

The mod checks for the required images at Randomizer/

#

No other qualifiers

#

So put the folder wherever the linux version's base data directory is

gusty sparrow Apr 8, 2018, 12:25 AM

#

ok so

paper gazelle Apr 8, 2018, 12:25 AM

#

kk, thx

gusty sparrow Apr 8, 2018, 12:25 AM

#

how tf i get out of soul sanctum

#

save and exit?

leaden hedge Apr 8, 2018, 12:26 AM

#

no

rain cedar Apr 8, 2018, 12:26 AM

#

Picking up desolate dive saves you there

#

What items do you have?

#

Should be easy to get out no matter what

gusty sparrow Apr 8, 2018, 12:26 AM

#

📎 20180408022620_1.jpg

#

📎 20180408022624_1.jpg

leaden hedge Apr 8, 2018, 12:26 AM

#

all the glass is prebroken

rain cedar Apr 8, 2018, 12:26 AM

#

Yeah you've got claw

#

Easy

gusty sparrow Apr 8, 2018, 12:26 AM

#

plus vengeful spirit

#

ohhhhh

#

i was mostly worried about the glass

leaden hedge Apr 8, 2018, 12:27 AM

#

and you don't even need to do awkward pogos to get out

gusty sparrow Apr 8, 2018, 12:28 AM

#

um

#

why is the DD pickup still in the boss room?

#

📎 20180408022908_1.jpg

rain cedar Apr 8, 2018, 12:29 AM

#

Because I don't care enough to fix that

#

It's a bug with literally no bad effects

gusty sparrow Apr 8, 2018, 12:29 AM

#

thats uh

#

fair

leaden hedge Apr 8, 2018, 12:30 AM

#

its because the game is looking for the has dive 1 variable to be set

#

which is permanently false

#

because hacky solutions to problems

paper gazelle Apr 8, 2018, 12:30 AM

#

All the UI disappeared.

📎 Screenshot_2018-04-07_17-29-43.png

gusty sparrow Apr 8, 2018, 12:30 AM

#

~~hey look an easily dupeable hallownest seal lemme just set aside 30 minutes~~

leaden hedge Apr 8, 2018, 12:30 AM

#

dunno why you'd dupe in rando

#

its not like unbreaks are rando items

rain cedar Apr 8, 2018, 12:31 AM

#

Could you post the modlog file in your save folder? @paper gazelle

gusty sparrow Apr 8, 2018, 12:31 AM

#

hey look i already fucked up the dupe

leaden hedge Apr 8, 2018, 12:32 AM

#

fixing that desolate dive visual bug should only be like 5 minutes if that

rain cedar Apr 8, 2018, 12:32 AM

#

Yeah but I don't care

#

Kerr might end up doing shiny control after hornet, which would have a side effect of "fixing" the bug

paper gazelle Apr 8, 2018, 12:33 AM

#

Just a minute, trying to get the window closed.

rain cedar Apr 8, 2018, 12:33 AM

#

Since I'd stop using the bad solution

gusty sparrow Apr 8, 2018, 12:33 AM

#

um

#

sean yall fucked it up

rain cedar Apr 8, 2018, 12:33 AM

#

Yeah?

gusty sparrow Apr 8, 2018, 12:33 AM

#

i'm stuck, can't move

📎 20180408023315_1.jpg

#

it was prebroken, i jumped in, it went black

rain cedar Apr 8, 2018, 12:33 AM

#

Oh wow that

#

That happened to ciplax once

gusty sparrow Apr 8, 2018, 12:33 AM

#

i can't do anything now

rain cedar Apr 8, 2018, 12:33 AM

#

Never to anyone else

gusty sparrow Apr 8, 2018, 12:34 AM

#

not even escape

rain cedar Apr 8, 2018, 12:34 AM

#

I know exactly why that would happen just didn't care because it never happens

gusty sparrow Apr 8, 2018, 12:34 AM

#

imagine a face of dissapointment here

rain cedar Apr 8, 2018, 12:34 AM

#

Alright fine I'll fix it

#

I just need to get the scene name for the room below that and add it into a check that's already being done

gusty sparrow Apr 8, 2018, 12:35 AM

#

so uh

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right now i suppose i'll have to alt+f4 and refight soul master

rain cedar Apr 8, 2018, 12:36 AM

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Nah it'll put you after him

gusty sparrow Apr 8, 2018, 12:36 AM

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oh thank the assorted dieties of choice

paper gazelle Apr 8, 2018, 12:37 AM

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@rain cedar Wait--I don't have any saves.

rain cedar Apr 8, 2018, 12:38 AM

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You don't need to have saves, the log is just in your save folder

paper gazelle Apr 8, 2018, 12:38 AM

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Ah.