#archived-modding-development | Hollow Knight | Page 73

pearl sentinel Apr 2, 2018, 9:54 PM

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Honestly sounds like fun to me. If it was my day job I'd get right on it

rain cedar Apr 2, 2018, 10:14 PM

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Fun? You're forgetting the part where you have to fix every fsm that calls a method in HeroController

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Maybe PlayerData too

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I guess you could probably just mod the CallMethodProper action

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Maybe it wouldn't be too bad

pearl sentinel Apr 2, 2018, 10:21 PM

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Fix? I wouldn't fix any fsms, I'd write code to take their place

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And that does sound fun to me

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I think I like refactoring thinkgrub

buoyant obsidian Apr 2, 2018, 10:29 PM

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Go get a job porting games

pearl sentinel Apr 2, 2018, 10:30 PM

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I like my job making games tho

buoyant obsidian Apr 2, 2018, 10:30 PM

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You're a game dev?

pearl sentinel Apr 2, 2018, 10:30 PM

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Yeah

buoyant obsidian Apr 2, 2018, 10:30 PM

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Oh neat, link me some of your stuff some time

hollow pier Apr 2, 2018, 10:31 PM

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753 is a dev too

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some say shitmodst is a whole new game

pearl sentinel Apr 2, 2018, 10:31 PM

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Probably easiest to post linkedin

pearl sentinel Apr 2, 2018, 11:09 PM

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(Just pm me yours if you want)

buoyant obsidian Apr 2, 2018, 11:12 PM

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I should probably make a linkedin

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 12:16 AM

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so I have two candidates to what should enable the dash-through-walls update in blackmoth

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1 - Shade cloak. The reasoning behind that is kinda lore-related. Just like in vanilla, shade cloak lets you dash through enemies when you couldn't before, in blackmoth it would let you dash through walls when you couldn't before

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2 - Grubberfly's Elegy. The reasoning behind that is to make Grubber's the ultimate movement ability - you can do whatever you want. That would also fix the getting stuck thingy and would be toggable, while shade cloak isn't.

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any ideas?

hollow pier Apr 3, 2018, 12:18 AM

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make elegy useful

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 12:18 AM

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well, in blackmoth it is

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I want to make it even more so

young walrus Apr 3, 2018, 12:21 AM

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wouldn't that super break the game?

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 12:22 AM

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well

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not like it's not broken already

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specially with grubberfly as it is

young walrus Apr 3, 2018, 12:22 AM

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lol. tru

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 12:22 AM

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also

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it's kinda neat

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you can sneak up on enemies

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https://puu.sh/zV2zB/94ad675a0f.mp4

▶ Play video

hollow pier Apr 3, 2018, 12:28 AM

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lol

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 12:28 AM

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see? It's neato!

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so... Any input on what to do with that?

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 1:20 AM

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for now I'm setting it to be triggered on collection of shadow dash

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so it does something else other than just giving you 3 MP

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because, tbh, going all the way to the abyss just for 3mp/dash is not worth it imo

young walrus Apr 3, 2018, 1:21 AM

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does someone new to the mod know that?

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or would they go get it anyways because.... reasons?

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i dunno

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 1:21 AM

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not really, unless they read the readme or watch someone else play

sturdy jetty Apr 3, 2018, 1:25 AM

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What are the best mods to play in HK?

hazy sentinel Apr 3, 2018, 1:26 AM

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original boss rush

stray mirage Apr 3, 2018, 1:26 AM

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check pins

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randomizer hollowknice

hollow pier Apr 3, 2018, 1:26 AM

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play lightbringer

stray mirage Apr 3, 2018, 1:27 AM

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actually my contract is up so i can't recommend lightbringer

sturdy jetty Apr 3, 2018, 1:27 AM

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Does anyone have a description of what each mod does?

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Do the mods work with 1.3.0.4 Beta?

stray mirage Apr 3, 2018, 1:28 AM

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most of them are self explanatory

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all of them should come with a readme though

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there are guides in pinned messages

copper nacelle Apr 3, 2018, 1:30 AM

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^

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READMEs are in the zips

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 1:30 AM

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also, mods work fine up to 1.2.2.1

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some work on 1.3.0.6

young walrus Apr 3, 2018, 1:34 AM

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in general i wouldn't use them on the beta yet

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they may work, but there's just so many unknowns and bugs, and stuff to use them reliably

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 2:13 AM

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blackmoth works fine

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just sayin

young walrus Apr 3, 2018, 2:13 AM

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i'm super saiyan

odd vigil Apr 3, 2018, 2:15 AM

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Hey im a bit confused with a mod I got

copper nacelle Apr 3, 2018, 2:16 AM

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which mod

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what part

odd vigil Apr 3, 2018, 2:16 AM

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I got the HPBar mod

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and it isnt working at all

copper nacelle Apr 3, 2018, 2:17 AM

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are you on beta?

young walrus Apr 3, 2018, 2:17 AM

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well did you install the API?

copper nacelle Apr 3, 2018, 2:17 AM

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beta changes how HP works so it doesn't work there

young walrus Apr 3, 2018, 2:17 AM

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^

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that too

odd vigil Apr 3, 2018, 2:18 AM

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ah

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thanks

young walrus Apr 3, 2018, 2:18 AM

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the hp bar also only shows up on bosses

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not on normal enemies

odd vigil Apr 3, 2018, 2:22 AM

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I know

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I keep testing it on NKG and I don't see it at all

young walrus Apr 3, 2018, 2:23 AM

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and it's showing up as loaded on the main menu?>

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?

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should be top left

odd vigil Apr 3, 2018, 2:23 AM

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nope

young walrus Apr 3, 2018, 2:23 AM

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then you probably didn't install the API

odd vigil Apr 3, 2018, 2:24 AM

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What

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How does one do that?

young walrus Apr 3, 2018, 2:24 AM

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watch the video in pins

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goes over the modding process for any API mod

odd vigil Apr 3, 2018, 2:25 AM

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who uploaded it?

young walrus Apr 3, 2018, 2:26 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lX2A8Tegys

YouTube

k0cc4

[Hollow Knight] How to install Boss Rush mod

All the credit for making the modding API and the Boss Rush mod itself goes to Seanpr, Firzen, Wyza and KDT. If you have any further questions, feel free to ...

▶ Play video

rain cedar Apr 3, 2018, 2:26 AM

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There's only 1 pinned video

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Not hard to find

young walrus Apr 3, 2018, 2:27 AM

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or alternatively, use the crossroads installer

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also, in pins

odd vigil Apr 3, 2018, 2:28 AM

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ill try crossroads first

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wait do I have to put crossroads in my hollow knight folder or something?

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 2:30 AM

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no, just unzip it anywhere (not temp)

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whip it out

pearl sentinel Apr 3, 2018, 2:31 AM

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it yells at the user now if you try to use it in temp

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 2:31 AM

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just whip it

pearl sentinel Apr 3, 2018, 2:31 AM

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😃

odd vigil Apr 3, 2018, 2:31 AM

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Hmm doesnt have the mod im looking for

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 2:31 AM

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wut

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should have all mods tho

odd vigil Apr 3, 2018, 2:31 AM

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Its the Hp bar mod

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 2:31 AM

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(api mods that is)

odd vigil Apr 3, 2018, 2:31 AM

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Or what is it called?

pearl sentinel Apr 3, 2018, 2:31 AM

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it's on there

odd vigil Apr 3, 2018, 2:32 AM

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what is it called Kerr?

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 2:32 AM

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HpBars?

odd vigil Apr 3, 2018, 2:32 AM

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Dont see that

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 2:32 AM

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never used crossroads, so

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dunno

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but if it's not working for you, you can try my installer

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it's worse than Kerr's, but I'm positive it has HpBars there

odd vigil Apr 3, 2018, 2:33 AM

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hmm

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 2:33 AM

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📎 unknown.png

odd vigil Apr 3, 2018, 2:33 AM

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where may I find it?

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 2:33 AM

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like everything else, pins

odd vigil Apr 3, 2018, 2:33 AM

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(I was guessing that)

pearl sentinel Apr 3, 2018, 2:34 AM

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yours isn't worse zote

young walrus Apr 3, 2018, 2:36 AM

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it's just.... different

pearl sentinel Apr 3, 2018, 2:37 AM

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well, gradows handles mods that aren't on the google drive

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mine doesn't

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i'd say his is more a QoL tool while mine is aimed at those fresh to trying out mods

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 2:38 AM

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handles badly, I might say

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it simply renames the assembly that's already there with .vanilla

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that's why there's a "restore backups" button, which removes everything that has a version with .vanilla at the end

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resources, the assembly etc.

odd vigil Apr 3, 2018, 2:40 AM

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awwww sheeet

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I cant get mods 😛

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 2:40 AM

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y not

odd vigil Apr 3, 2018, 2:40 AM

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THe modding api is not the same edition I have my game as

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 2:40 AM

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don't tell me...

odd vigil Apr 3, 2018, 2:40 AM

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what

young walrus Apr 3, 2018, 2:40 AM

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what version do you have

odd vigil Apr 3, 2018, 2:40 AM

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Lifeblood

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Im guessing thats why

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 2:40 AM

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oh

odd vigil Apr 3, 2018, 2:40 AM

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If it is

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thats fine

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 2:40 AM

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phew, that's a relief

copper nacelle Apr 3, 2018, 2:41 AM

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install it manually

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ez

young walrus Apr 3, 2018, 2:41 AM

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we have a beta build for the beta

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 2:41 AM

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I thought you were gonna say you pirated the game

copper nacelle Apr 3, 2018, 2:41 AM

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kerr and gradow both released lifeblood versions

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 2:41 AM

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kerr's is better

odd vigil Apr 3, 2018, 2:41 AM

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fuck no

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 2:41 AM

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and his is more up-to-date

odd vigil Apr 3, 2018, 2:41 AM

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I only pirate games that I want to try

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then I buy them if I know they're good

young walrus Apr 3, 2018, 2:41 AM

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well we've had people come in and say "help install mods on pirate game plz"

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 2:41 AM

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yup

odd vigil Apr 3, 2018, 2:41 AM

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I bought hollow knight asap after I played it like 10 mins

young walrus Apr 3, 2018, 2:41 AM

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"i have version 1.0.0.5

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"y no work"

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 2:41 AM

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and mostly it goes liek this:

pearl sentinel Apr 3, 2018, 2:42 AM

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all these updates to test now: https://puu.sh/zV738/9f70e74bb1.png

odd vigil Apr 3, 2018, 2:42 AM

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0-0

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 2:42 AM

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"help, can't mod."
"oh, I have a wrong version"
"can't update"
"cause it's pirated"
"Y U GOTTA H8 M8"

odd vigil Apr 3, 2018, 2:42 AM

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lol

young walrus Apr 3, 2018, 2:42 AM

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cohhLUL

odd vigil Apr 3, 2018, 2:42 AM

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well I boned for now

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But thanks anyways!

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 2:42 AM

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uhhh

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some mods work on lifeblood

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blackmoth, for one

odd vigil Apr 3, 2018, 2:43 AM

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the fuck is that

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 2:43 AM

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Debug partially works

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also mantis GODS

odd vigil Apr 3, 2018, 2:43 AM

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Oh no no

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 2:43 AM

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bonfire (should) partially work

odd vigil Apr 3, 2018, 2:43 AM

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what does that do

sturdy jetty Apr 3, 2018, 2:43 AM

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Do all mods work with all 3 OS?

odd vigil Apr 3, 2018, 2:43 AM

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Is it like a Dark Souls mod or something

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 2:43 AM

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yup

sturdy jetty Apr 3, 2018, 2:43 AM

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Mac OS X, Linux, Microsoft Windows?

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Okay.

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 2:44 AM

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wait

odd vigil Apr 3, 2018, 2:44 AM

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Im guessing it replaces benches with fires?

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 2:44 AM

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I was answering vulen

sturdy jetty Apr 3, 2018, 2:44 AM

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I see.

pearl sentinel Apr 3, 2018, 2:44 AM

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very few mods have been built cross platform

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 2:44 AM

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??: api mods do work across OSs

copper nacelle Apr 3, 2018, 2:44 AM

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all api mods work cross platform

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 2:44 AM

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vulen: no, but it adds a levelling system

sturdy jetty Apr 3, 2018, 2:44 AM

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What constitutes as an API mod vs. a non-API mod?

odd vigil Apr 3, 2018, 2:45 AM

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Oh

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 2:45 AM

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which, ofc, breaks the game

odd vigil Apr 3, 2018, 2:45 AM

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Thats cool I guess

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Yeah

copper nacelle Apr 3, 2018, 2:45 AM

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API: mods which use a certain shared assembly

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 2:45 AM

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because it's hard to balance a game that was not built around that

odd vigil Apr 3, 2018, 2:45 AM

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Thats why I dont get mods like that in games that dont need levels

copper nacelle Apr 3, 2018, 2:45 AM

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and you put into a Mods folder

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 2:45 AM

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but it's a fun change of pace anyways

copper nacelle Apr 3, 2018, 2:45 AM

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Non-API: Have their own Assembly-CSharp.dll, aren't put into a Mods folder

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 2:45 AM

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swinging your nail at the speed of light

copper nacelle Apr 3, 2018, 2:45 AM

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non api stuff is like Lightbringer, Shitmodst, Dreamshield Co-op

odd vigil Apr 3, 2018, 2:45 AM

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then what do I do with dll?

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 2:45 AM

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first, you install the api

odd vigil Apr 3, 2018, 2:46 AM

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wElP

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 2:46 AM

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search for from: kerr has: file in: modding

sturdy jetty Apr 3, 2018, 2:46 AM

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Does the KDT Boss Rush mod 1.2.2.1 work on 1.3.0.4?

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 2:46 AM

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ehhh

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maybe?

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you'll need the updated API, either way

copper nacelle Apr 3, 2018, 2:47 AM

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probably

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 2:47 AM

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here's the API for 1.3.0.6

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/327461802311155714/429512162365669386/Assembly-CSharp_1.3.0.6.zip

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I'm not sure KDT's boss rush uses fsm health managers, so it might work

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well, can't hurt to try

copper nacelle Apr 3, 2018, 2:49 AM

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it doesn't look like it uses health manager

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so it'll probably work

📎 unknown.png

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 2:50 AM

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seems like it

sturdy jetty Apr 3, 2018, 2:50 AM

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So how do I install the mod?

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I just copy the .dll file into the directroy?

young walrus Apr 3, 2018, 2:51 AM

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video in pins

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 2:51 AM

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put API in Hollow Knight/hollow_knight_data/Managed/

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put mods in Hollow Knight/hollow_knight_data/Managed/Mods

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done

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5hard98me

sturdy jetty Apr 3, 2018, 2:55 AM

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It prompts me to overwrite the files that are already there.

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Do I overwrite it?

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 2:55 AM

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yup, but you can back them up if you want to

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or simply verify on steam if you grow tired of mods

sturdy jetty Apr 3, 2018, 2:59 AM

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So once I install the mods, how do I start the boss rush?

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 2:59 AM

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just start a new game

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you can see if it's installed by looking top-left in the title screen

sturdy jetty Apr 3, 2018, 2:59 AM

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Does the Boss Rush have Lifeblood, The Grimm Troupe, Hidden Dreams, etc.?

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 2:59 AM

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it has TGT

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and everything before it

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but doesn't have Lifeblood

sturdy jetty Apr 3, 2018, 3:00 AM

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Where do you find the

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1.3.0.6 API?

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 3:01 AM

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I just linked it above

sturdy jetty Apr 3, 2018, 3:01 AM

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I know, but where do you find it if in case I need it again?

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In the future I mean.

hazy sentinel Apr 3, 2018, 3:01 AM

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where do you find 1.0.3.7 API thx

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 3:01 AM

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search for from: kerr has: file in: modding

hazy sentinel Apr 3, 2018, 3:02 AM

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what if Kerr posts 800 new files

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 3:02 AM

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after lifeblood gets its own release, the API should be up on the gdrive

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for now, it's only here

young walrus Apr 3, 2018, 3:03 AM

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^

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the game version and the api itself aren't stable yet

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so it's not been officially released

sturdy jetty Apr 3, 2018, 3:03 AM

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So the boss rush, you start with nothing and slowly upgrade as you progress?

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You cannot start with everything?

young walrus Apr 3, 2018, 3:04 AM

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you can if you use debug mod

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though you can't equip all charms i don't think

sturdy jetty Apr 3, 2018, 3:04 AM

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So I need to download both debug mod and boss rush mod?

young walrus Apr 3, 2018, 3:04 AM

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just use boss rush

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you become OP very quick anyways

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 3:04 AM

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yeah

young walrus Apr 3, 2018, 3:04 AM

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if you beat a boss with no dmg taken you get to pick up 2 items

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and all are equipped

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so you can end up with like.... 15 charms on

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pretty OP

sturdy jetty Apr 3, 2018, 3:05 AM

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I was hoping the boss rush would be you have 11 charm notches from the start and you equip whatever for each boss based on how you feel like it.

rain cedar Apr 3, 2018, 3:06 AM

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That would be piss easy

young walrus Apr 3, 2018, 3:06 AM

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that would be too stronk for early game bosses

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 3:06 AM

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^

sturdy jetty Apr 3, 2018, 3:06 AM

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I was hoping it lets you program how much HP you want each boss to have.

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 3:06 AM

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wut

rain cedar Apr 3, 2018, 3:07 AM

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The problem with that is all the best charms just give you better numbers

sturdy jetty Apr 3, 2018, 3:07 AM

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To counteract the low HP bosses at the beginning.

rain cedar Apr 3, 2018, 3:07 AM

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So the boss has better numbers and you have better numbers

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 3:07 AM

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why... Would you do that tho

rain cedar Apr 3, 2018, 3:07 AM

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But nothing has actually changed

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It's just the same

sturdy jetty Apr 3, 2018, 3:09 AM

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But you can program each boss to have as much health as you want to make it get killed the same number of hits vs, their old HP vs. their new HP. So if a boss has 100 HP, you need 20 hits to kill it with the 5 nail.

pearl sentinel Apr 3, 2018, 3:09 AM

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@young walrus randomizer+enemy randomizer race when? elderbug

sturdy jetty Apr 3, 2018, 3:09 AM

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But if you have the 21 nail,

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then you need to program it to have 21x20 HP.

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So 420 HP in this case.

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 3:09 AM

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then it's meaningless to have 21 nail and 420 HP in the first place

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since the fight will go exactly as it would if you had 5 nail and it had 100 HP

sturdy jetty Apr 3, 2018, 3:10 AM

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But in my case you get to use Charms that you did not had earlier. So you get to use Quick Slash in Crystal Guardian 1 for example.

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Wait is Crystal Guardian 1 optional?

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 3:12 AM

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no boss is optional

copper nacelle Apr 3, 2018, 3:14 AM

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but

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you can just get quick slash

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w/ luck

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ez

young walrus Apr 3, 2018, 3:17 AM

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lol. that could be a fun race

pearl sentinel Apr 3, 2018, 3:20 AM

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just avoid the shrumal ogre boss room and it'll be basically bug free for race purposes

young walrus Apr 3, 2018, 3:27 AM

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it'd be almost a fucking meme race anyways

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so.... nbd

pearl sentinel Apr 3, 2018, 3:27 AM

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hehe

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serious Q tho, how could enemy randomizer work that you'd consider it for a normal rando race?

young walrus Apr 3, 2018, 3:28 AM

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uh..... it'd have to be like.... the room rando version

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so the spawns are static

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plus... bosses randoing with each other

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but not anywhere on the map

pearl sentinel Apr 3, 2018, 3:29 AM

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gotcha, room rando is the default setting, and i'm trying to make it balanced

odd vigil Apr 3, 2018, 3:29 AM

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enemy randomizer sounds like ass

young walrus Apr 3, 2018, 3:29 AM

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it's.... something

odd vigil Apr 3, 2018, 3:29 AM

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you could get those white palace guys instead of a gruzz

young walrus Apr 3, 2018, 3:29 AM

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flying randos with flying

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ground with ground

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static with static

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stuff like that

pearl sentinel Apr 3, 2018, 3:30 AM

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i have a boss list to shuffle only bosses, but i haven't used it yet. i'm having to rewrite a bunch of stuff for the beta so this is a good time to change things up

young walrus Apr 3, 2018, 3:30 AM

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but yeah. boss with bosses would be interesting

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and would be awful for a race to have them show up anywhere

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are these seeded?

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the same randomization would be necessary imo

pearl sentinel Apr 3, 2018, 3:32 AM

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yep, safe files go into the enemy rando menu to set a seed

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save*

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before you make a new file

young walrus Apr 3, 2018, 3:32 AM

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kk

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"fairness" is THE most important thing

pearl sentinel Apr 3, 2018, 3:33 AM

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yeah i based some of the inspiration for this off of watching the various zelda rando races

young walrus Apr 3, 2018, 3:34 AM

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yeah. it's a good precedent to base it on

floral iris Apr 3, 2018, 5:05 AM

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Hey I have the Steam version of the game on Mac 😖 and I was wondering if anyone had any help on accessing sprite-sheets. I've done this with other steam games, and been able to find a bunch of .png sprite-sheets somewhere in the package contents, but I can't find them for HK. Any tips?

buoyant obsidian Apr 3, 2018, 5:18 AM

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Check the pins, you should be able to find a link to Unity Studio

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then you select all the .assets packages with Unity Studio and open them up. Your sprites will be in there as "Texture2D" files

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floral iris Apr 3, 2018, 5:46 AM

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well, still can't figure out how to open them with Unity (which i have). not to mention i'm not sure how to only select the .assets with selecting all the files in between lol. it wasn't super important anyway, but thanks for your help 😃

sturdy jetty Apr 3, 2018, 10:58 AM

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Can someone pin the API for 1.3.0.6?

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 4:48 PM

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after playing lifeblood, TGT feels so sluggish

leaden lintel Apr 3, 2018, 8:18 PM

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Hey, how i put mods in HK, and anyone knows if the boss rush mod is for lifeblood?

exotic venture Apr 3, 2018, 8:19 PM

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check the pins

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i made this

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nice step by step guide

leaden lintel Apr 3, 2018, 8:22 PM

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i cant understand it at all, i dont speak english very well

rain cedar Apr 3, 2018, 8:25 PM

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What parts don't make sense to you?

leaden lintel Apr 3, 2018, 8:31 PM

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almost everything

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i mean i understans

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but i get confused

rain cedar Apr 3, 2018, 8:35 PM

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If you can't do the manual install, maybe it would be better to try one of the installers

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I think Gradow's will work with lifeblood

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 8:45 PM

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mine works if you use the manual install

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because the auto-install grabs mods/api directly from the gdrive

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@leaden lintel boss rush should work for lifeblood

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you'll need to install the modding API first

exotic venture Apr 3, 2018, 8:49 PM

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is that up to the newest version though on the drive

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 8:52 PM

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the API? No, he'd have to use kerr's version

leaden lintel Apr 3, 2018, 9:06 PM

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tell me what i have to do

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 9:10 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/327461802311155714/429512162365669386/Assembly-CSharp_1.3.0.6.zip

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download this

leaden lintel Apr 3, 2018, 9:13 PM

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okay

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then?

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 9:14 PM

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unzip it

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there should be a file name "Assembly-CSharp.dll" inside

young walrus Apr 3, 2018, 9:14 PM

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drag it drop it zip, unzip it

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partyPorg Technologic

leaden lintel Apr 3, 2018, 9:17 PM

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okay

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i already unzip it

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 9:23 PM

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now open your Hollow Knight install folder

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should be something like C:\Program Files x86\steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\hollow_knight_data\Managed\

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 9:39 PM

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alternatively, go to steam, right-click on Hollow Knight, select Properties, go to Local Files, select "Browse Local Files"

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📎 unknown.png

leaden lintel Apr 3, 2018, 10:06 PM

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Okey

solemn rivet Apr 3, 2018, 10:12 PM

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now, download Boss Rush from the google drive link that's in the pins

charred parrot Apr 4, 2018, 12:06 AM

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Are you able to use dnspy for any unity game?

rain cedar Apr 4, 2018, 12:07 AM

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Any game with a managed assembly

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So probably

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Idk for sure about ones written with js

copper nacelle Apr 4, 2018, 12:14 AM

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unityscript zote

buoyant obsidian Apr 4, 2018, 12:14 AM

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I haven't really ran into one that you can't use it on, although the amount of stuff you can access varies

solemn rivet Apr 4, 2018, 2:06 AM

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https://drive.google.com/open?id=11u4QTDUeq_09t8DjXrMY0qIyKaWGz7Gz
Blackmoth has been updated on the drive!

Compatible with 1.2.2.1 and 1.3.0.6
Added descriptions to charms and abilities
Changed the effects of the Heavy Blow charm
Added an extra effect to the Shade Cloak upgrade
Added small invul timer after dashes to prevent getting stuck

Google Docs

[API] Blackmoth (by Gradow).zip

safe basin Apr 4, 2018, 3:01 AM

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so i downloaded the glass soul mod but i dont know how to get it to work can anyone help me

copper nacelle Apr 4, 2018, 3:04 AM

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did you try

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the installer

safe basin Apr 4, 2018, 3:04 AM

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?

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i downloaded it and got a zip file and dont know what to do with it

copper nacelle Apr 4, 2018, 3:06 AM

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imo download installer

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extract it

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run it

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check the boxes

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ez

safe basin Apr 4, 2018, 3:11 AM

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ok i got it thanks

copper nacelle Apr 4, 2018, 3:12 AM

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hollowknice

pearl sentinel Apr 4, 2018, 3:29 AM

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well, i had to add a hook to get a scene's boundries when they're created, but the enemy randomization is instant now when you enter an area

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and no lag or hitches

solemn rivet Apr 4, 2018, 4:13 AM

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What does that hook do?

pearl sentinel Apr 4, 2018, 4:14 AM

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        //add modhook to send the newly created borders to any mods that want them
        [MonoModReplace]
        private void DrawBlackBorders()
        {
            List<GameObject> borders = new List<GameObject>();
            GameObject gameObject = UnityEngine.Object.Instantiate<GameObject>(this.borderPrefab);
            gameObject.transform.SetPosition2D( this.gm.sceneWidth + 10f, this.gm.sceneHeight / 2f );
            gameObject.transform.localScale = new Vector2( 20f, this.gm.sceneHeight + 40f );
            borders.Add( gameObject );

            gameObject = UnityEngine.Object.Instantiate<GameObject>( this.borderPrefab );
            gameObject.transform.SetPosition2D( -10f, this.gm.sceneHeight / 2f );
            gameObject.transform.localScale = new Vector2( 20f, this.gm.sceneHeight + 40f );
            borders.Add( gameObject );

            gameObject = UnityEngine.Object.Instantiate<GameObject>( this.borderPrefab );
            gameObject.transform.SetPosition2D( this.gm.sceneWidth / 2f, this.gm.sceneHeight + 10f );
            gameObject.transform.localScale = new Vector2( 40f + this.gm.sceneWidth, 20f );
            borders.Add( gameObject );

            gameObject = UnityEngine.Object.Instantiate<GameObject>( this.borderPrefab );
            gameObject.transform.SetPosition2D( this.gm.sceneWidth / 2f, -10f );
            gameObject.transform.localScale = new Vector2( 40f + this.gm.sceneWidth, 20f );
            borders.Add( gameObject );

            ModHooks.Instance.OnDrawBlackBorders( borders );
        }

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(this is the original code, i just added the .Add()'s

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each scene does this to make the boundries of the scene

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which are these objects with box colliders

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you can use the colliders to detect when enemies get outside the scene or if you wanted to resize the scene

rain cedar Apr 4, 2018, 4:17 AM

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Nice I was just adding an option to debug to destroy those

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Because they're fucking annoying

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Always fun to have mods that break other mods

pearl sentinel Apr 4, 2018, 4:18 AM

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lol

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i mean, you could use the hook to do that

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just destroy the game objects that returns

rain cedar Apr 4, 2018, 4:19 AM

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So much nicer oob without them

📎 unknown.png

copper nacelle Apr 4, 2018, 4:19 AM

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w o a h

pearl sentinel Apr 4, 2018, 4:19 AM

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instead of destroy

hollow lantern Apr 4, 2018, 4:19 AM

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nice

pearl sentinel Apr 4, 2018, 4:19 AM

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just destroy the sprite renderer components on them

rain cedar Apr 4, 2018, 4:19 AM

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But that's like another 30 seconds of work

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I dunno

pearl sentinel Apr 4, 2018, 4:20 AM

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zote

rain cedar Apr 4, 2018, 4:20 AM

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Alright I'll do that instead

pearl sentinel Apr 4, 2018, 4:21 AM

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woo, ty

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i just use the colliders for enemy rando

rain cedar Apr 4, 2018, 4:21 AM

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I think I need to slightly delay removing these on scene load

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Or find a better hook

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sceneLoaded doesn't work

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Using a keybind does

pearl sentinel Apr 4, 2018, 4:21 AM

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the modhook i added should work

#

want the api?

rain cedar Apr 4, 2018, 4:22 AM

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I'm working on an old patch right now anyway

pearl sentinel Apr 4, 2018, 4:22 AM

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ah

rain cedar Apr 4, 2018, 4:22 AM

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They seem to consistently be named SceneBorder(Clone)

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So that's nice

pearl sentinel Apr 4, 2018, 4:23 AM

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yeah. the function is posted is how they're made

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they're just spawned from a resource prefab

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in SceneManager.cs

rain cedar Apr 4, 2018, 4:23 AM

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Cool

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I guess the easiest thing to do is hook a coroutine that waits for a short time

pearl sentinel Apr 4, 2018, 4:24 AM

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so, SceneManager calls the function in Start()

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so probably just one frame after the scene is loaded

rain cedar Apr 4, 2018, 4:25 AM

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Alright

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yield return null waits a frame, right?

pearl sentinel Apr 4, 2018, 4:25 AM

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yeah, or new WaitForEndOfFrame()

rain cedar Apr 4, 2018, 4:26 AM

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That's more clear on the purpose of it

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I like that better

pearl sentinel Apr 4, 2018, 4:26 AM

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i think it also stalls if the timescale is paused (which you would want)

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well, this is a surprise. grimm works fine in the trial of fool

rain cedar Apr 4, 2018, 4:28 AM

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Even the pufferfish?

solemn rivet Apr 4, 2018, 4:28 AM

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Well, the arena is kinda similar

rain cedar Apr 4, 2018, 4:29 AM

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Alright yeah waiting a frame does it

pearl sentinel Apr 4, 2018, 4:29 AM

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only attack the doesn't (yet) work is spikes

copper nacelle Apr 4, 2018, 4:29 AM

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kdt was saying spikes are broken outside of his arena

solemn rivet Apr 4, 2018, 4:29 AM

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I like the optimism

pearl sentinel Apr 4, 2018, 4:29 AM

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so far, most enemies with broken stuff is just because they reference an obejct somewhere else in the scene

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i've solved that almost every time so far by just reparenting it to my rando root object

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so it doesn't get destroyed

copper nacelle Apr 4, 2018, 4:30 AM

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nice

pearl sentinel Apr 4, 2018, 4:30 AM

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then when i make a copy they keep the reference and it works

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ima go check grimm's scene rq

hazy sentinel Apr 4, 2018, 4:32 AM

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totf in Grimm's tent hollowwoke

rain cedar Apr 4, 2018, 4:33 AM

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I can make super nice gifs of oob movement now https://gfycat.com/AssuredGrossFurseal

Gfycat

2018-04-03 21-30-10

▶ Play video

pearl sentinel Apr 4, 2018, 4:33 AM

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yep, his room has "Grimm Spike Holder"

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neat

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time to make a better raining chain map

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zote

rain cedar Apr 4, 2018, 4:34 AM

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His map is already pretty good, though

pearl sentinel Apr 4, 2018, 4:34 AM

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yeah

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or a better in game map

rain cedar Apr 4, 2018, 4:35 AM

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In game map would be cool

pearl sentinel Apr 4, 2018, 4:35 AM

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ooo

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i bet you could make a sweet minimap with that

rain cedar Apr 4, 2018, 4:35 AM

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Yeah, but it'd lag balls

pearl sentinel Apr 4, 2018, 4:35 AM

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naw

rain cedar Apr 4, 2018, 4:35 AM

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Because you would have to essentially render it twice

copper nacelle Apr 4, 2018, 4:35 AM

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how to kill laptops

pearl sentinel Apr 4, 2018, 4:36 AM

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i mean, so don't use the minimap on a laptop? lol

hazy sentinel Apr 4, 2018, 4:37 AM

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don't use a laptop? lol

rain cedar Apr 4, 2018, 4:37 AM

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A minimap does actually sound pretty cool, though

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And it wouldn't be too bad to make

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Just have to zoom out, center the map, take a screenshot, fix the camera, draw the screenshot in some corner

pearl sentinel Apr 4, 2018, 4:37 AM

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someone in discussion just a bit ago was complaining about how frustrated they get bc they keep getting lost

hazy sentinel Apr 4, 2018, 4:37 AM

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imo discussion

pearl sentinel Apr 4, 2018, 4:37 AM

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i bet a lot of people would use it

copper nacelle Apr 4, 2018, 4:38 AM

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yeah definitely

pearl sentinel Apr 4, 2018, 4:38 AM

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er, discussion yes

hazy sentinel Apr 4, 2018, 4:38 AM

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easy solution play 500 hours

pearl sentinel Apr 4, 2018, 4:38 AM

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could change the compass charm to do a minimap instead of what it does

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i mean, yes and no

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some people just don't have a good sense of direction

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in games

hazy sentinel Apr 4, 2018, 4:39 AM

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tbh my in-game sense of direction is better than IRL

pearl sentinel Apr 4, 2018, 4:41 AM

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same

pearl sentinel Apr 4, 2018, 5:21 AM

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well, that's funny

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when the collector spawns, he yells, bounces around, jumps into the roof, then dies bc he jumped out of scene

rain cedar Apr 4, 2018, 5:22 AM

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hollowknice

pearl sentinel Apr 4, 2018, 5:23 AM

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and i see why now

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----PFSM ---- FloatCompare (float2) = 109

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he jumps up until he's above that fixed Y height

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time to modify that

#

hive knight works pretty well

warped sinew Apr 4, 2018, 5:37 AM

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Collector was a really early design might be why his code kinda sucks compared to hive knight

pearl sentinel Apr 4, 2018, 5:38 AM

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makes sense

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a lot of enemies have been performing better since the update

pearl sentinel Apr 4, 2018, 6:05 AM

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shit

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mender bug spawned in colosseum and flew away and it softlocked me

warped sinew Apr 4, 2018, 6:28 AM

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Haha

pearl sentinel Apr 4, 2018, 6:38 AM

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wait, hive zombies can be friendly?

rain cedar Apr 4, 2018, 6:39 AM

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Hiveblood

pearl sentinel Apr 4, 2018, 6:39 AM

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these

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https://puu.sh/zVVDb/eaaa72328e.jpg

rain cedar Apr 4, 2018, 6:39 AM

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Yeah

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Everything in the hive

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Right?

pearl sentinel Apr 4, 2018, 6:39 AM

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huh, TIL

pearl sentinel Apr 4, 2018, 7:43 AM

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EnemyRandomizer TEST build + ModdingAPI that it requires.

📎 EnemyRandoTestBuildForBeta.zip

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was able to complete colosseum 1

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still needs work, but has a lot more enemies than the 1.2.2.1 version

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as usual, all tests and feedback appreciated

earnest tapir Apr 4, 2018, 8:45 AM

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OwO

fair rampart Apr 4, 2018, 10:35 AM

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I’ve never modded hollow knight and don’t really want to get too deep. Is there a mod that adds a boss rush mode or something?

copper nacelle Apr 4, 2018, 10:35 AM

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yes

fair rampart Apr 4, 2018, 11:23 AM

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Anyone know how to install it? Please dm or @ me

copper nacelle Apr 4, 2018, 11:23 AM

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download the installer

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check the box

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p i n s

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@fair rampart

solemn rivet Apr 4, 2018, 2:36 PM

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wtf

#

System.IO.Compression can't unzip Mantis Gods

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wth did you do 56?

solemn rivet Apr 4, 2018, 2:55 PM

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hell, even SharpZipLib can't unzip it

#

and DotNetZip can't either

#

I give up

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no Mantis Gods in my mod manager

#

mantiswhy

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weird thing is, Windows' native zip manager can handle it

#

what the actual...

half laurel Apr 4, 2018, 3:27 PM

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maybe try checking it out with 7zip? 7z t filename

pearl sentinel Apr 4, 2018, 3:30 PM

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Yeah 56 uses 7zip, most of my programs disagree with the way that stuff is compressed

solemn rivet Apr 4, 2018, 3:55 PM

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well, so do I, but bonfire unzips with no issues

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yeah, I literally just used 7zip to zip blackmoth and it handled it fine

copper nacelle Apr 4, 2018, 4:21 PM

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lmao

#

I'll try compressing it using something else

buoyant obsidian Apr 4, 2018, 4:43 PM

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Doesn't windows have a zipper these days?

hazy sentinel Apr 4, 2018, 4:44 PM

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no, but jackets do

solemn rivet Apr 4, 2018, 4:47 PM

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some jackets do, mind you

tranquil glen Apr 4, 2018, 6:28 PM

#

does darkroom work on 1.1.1.8?

leaden hedge Apr 4, 2018, 6:28 PM

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yes

tranquil glen Apr 4, 2018, 6:29 PM

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is it in mods folder?

leaden hedge Apr 4, 2018, 6:29 PM

#

no

tranquil glen Apr 4, 2018, 6:29 PM

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where can i access it

leaden hedge Apr 4, 2018, 6:29 PM

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do from: KDT has: file

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in: modding

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should be second file

tranquil glen Apr 4, 2018, 6:31 PM

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got it

#

thanks

#

wait do i put it straight in managed or mods?

leaden hedge Apr 4, 2018, 6:36 PM

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into mods

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you need api installed

tranquil glen Apr 4, 2018, 6:36 PM

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it hasn't worked, i installed api

#

i just needed to drag the api hollow_knight_data on top of my normal one and say replace files right

leaden hedge Apr 4, 2018, 6:37 PM

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yeah

solemn rivet Apr 4, 2018, 6:37 PM

#

does the game launch, or...?

tranquil glen Apr 4, 2018, 6:37 PM

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yeah game launches

#

no indication that either modding api or darkness mod are installed

#

i think i had this problem with 1.1.1.8 api before and just gave up

leaden hedge Apr 4, 2018, 6:39 PM

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sounds like an issue with the api

tranquil glen Apr 4, 2018, 6:40 PM

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i just downloaded the 1.1.1.8 folder from the dropbox

rain cedar Apr 4, 2018, 6:41 PM

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Folder? Dropbox?

#

What the hell did you download?

tranquil glen Apr 4, 2018, 6:45 PM

#

this

📎 unknown.png

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google drive

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not dropbox

#

whatever

solemn rivet Apr 4, 2018, 6:47 PM

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did you try loading a save file/creating a new one?

tranquil glen Apr 4, 2018, 6:47 PM

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yeah i created a new one

solemn rivet Apr 4, 2018, 6:47 PM

#

hm...

tranquil glen Apr 4, 2018, 6:47 PM

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but shouldn't it tell me what mods are installed in the top left

solemn rivet Apr 4, 2018, 6:47 PM

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I'm not sure it always did that tbh

#

can you send us the modlog.txt in your saves folder?

tranquil glen Apr 4, 2018, 6:48 PM

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📎 ModLog.txt

#

there ya go

solemn rivet Apr 4, 2018, 6:49 PM

#

heh

leaden hedge Apr 4, 2018, 6:49 PM

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unrelated

📎 unknown.png

solemn rivet Apr 4, 2018, 6:49 PM

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not compatible

#

wut dat KDT?

tranquil glen Apr 4, 2018, 6:49 PM

#

not compatible with what?

leaden hedge Apr 4, 2018, 6:49 PM

#

oh

solemn rivet Apr 4, 2018, 6:49 PM

#

darkness mod is using some features from recent API compilations

leaden hedge Apr 4, 2018, 6:49 PM

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the logger changes weren't backported

solemn rivet Apr 4, 2018, 6:50 PM

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shouldn't be hard to fix tho

leaden hedge Apr 4, 2018, 6:50 PM

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so its printing stuff to the log using the new method lol

tranquil glen Apr 4, 2018, 6:50 PM

#

so what do i do

solemn rivet Apr 4, 2018, 6:52 PM

#

KDT has to change a few small things in the mod

leaden hedge Apr 4, 2018, 6:52 PM

#

📎 Darkness.dll

solemn rivet Apr 4, 2018, 6:52 PM

#

btw KDT, was that progress on changing the inventory screen, or something unrelated?

leaden hedge Apr 4, 2018, 6:53 PM

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thats me adding charms to the charm menu

solemn rivet Apr 4, 2018, 6:53 PM

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nice

tranquil glen Apr 4, 2018, 6:55 PM

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thanks

solemn rivet Apr 4, 2018, 6:55 PM

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was about to tag you 😛

leaden hedge Apr 4, 2018, 6:57 PM

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charm fsm is still a clusterfuck though

vagrant leaf Apr 4, 2018, 7:22 PM

#

hollowwoke

tranquil glen Apr 4, 2018, 7:54 PM

#

i'm getting a weird thing where in hollow knight after installing darkrooom mod when i press right trigger sometimes it cancels my movement

#

i've done extensive testing and it only happens in hollow knight and only on this install

solemn rivet Apr 4, 2018, 7:55 PM

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just to be sure it's not the mods fault, can you send the modlog again?

tranquil glen Apr 4, 2018, 7:55 PM

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yeah sure

#

📎 ModLog.txt

rain cedar Apr 4, 2018, 7:56 PM

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It doesn't even look like you installed the dark room mod correctly

#

It's not getting loaded

tranquil glen Apr 4, 2018, 7:56 PM

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oh whoops yeah i removed it since

#

gimme a sec i'll put it back and try it out

#

seems to have fixed itself after i removed and put it back, i'll send log if it starts happening again

solemn rivet Apr 4, 2018, 7:59 PM

#

ok!

tranquil glen Apr 4, 2018, 8:10 PM

#

new problem, random spell casting when i'm not pressing buttons. here's the file in case

📎 ModLog.txt

rain cedar Apr 4, 2018, 8:14 PM

#

Is your game still open?

#

This doesn't look complete

#

Close the game if it's open to make sure all the logging gets flushed to the file

solemn rivet Apr 4, 2018, 8:28 PM

#

were there logging levels at this point?

tranquil glen Apr 4, 2018, 8:41 PM

#

📎 ModLog.txt

#

That's what i got

#

game is closed

rain cedar Apr 4, 2018, 8:42 PM

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Same file size, it'll be the same thing

#

Weird

tranquil glen Apr 4, 2018, 8:42 PM

#

yeah it is same

solemn rivet Apr 4, 2018, 8:43 PM

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send outputlog which is in hollow_knight_data

#

it's a txt file as well

tranquil glen Apr 4, 2018, 8:44 PM

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📎 output_log.txt

solemn rivet Apr 4, 2018, 8:45 PM

#

big NRE caused by darkness mod

#

  at HeroController.get_instance () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 
  at Darkness.Darkness.SceneManager_sceneLoaded (Scene arg0, LoadSceneMode arg1) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 
  at (wrapper delegate-invoke) UnityEngine.Events.UnityAction`2<UnityEngine.SceneManagement.Scene, UnityEngine.SceneManagement.LoadSceneMode>:invoke_void__this___Scene_LoadSceneMode (UnityEngine.SceneManagement.Scene,UnityEngine.SceneManagement.LoadSceneMode)

...

  at (wrapper delegate-invoke) UnityEngine.Events.UnityAction`2<UnityEngine.SceneManagement.Scene, UnityEngine.SceneManagement.LoadSceneMode>:invoke_void__this___Scene_LoadSceneMode (UnityEngine.SceneManagement.Scene,UnityEngine.SceneManagement.LoadSceneMode)
  at UnityEngine.SceneManagement.SceneManager.Internal_SceneLoaded (Scene scene, LoadSceneMode mode) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 
 
(Filename:  Line: -1)```

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it happens 3 times

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and it spans like 40 lines

#

there's also this small NRE at the end

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  at UIManager.get_instance () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 
  at Modding.ModVersionDraw.OnGUI () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 
 
(Filename:  Line: -1)```

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don't think that could cause spells to be cast spontaneously tho

rare flax Apr 4, 2018, 11:38 PM

#

Hey will Hollow Knight mods work with new beta?

#

because my mods arn't

#

or is it because the game updated itself deleting the modding process

#

in the beta

#

if anyone has an answer ping me

copper nacelle Apr 4, 2018, 11:41 PM

#

@rare flax did you install the beta api

rare flax Apr 4, 2018, 11:41 PM

#

oh they have that now?

#

I modded my game before the update so I wouldn't know

#

I'll check that out now

#

I'm assuming it's in the drive folder with the rest of them?

copper nacelle Apr 4, 2018, 11:42 PM

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no

#

from:kerr has:file

rare flax Apr 4, 2018, 11:43 PM

#

?

copper nacelle Apr 4, 2018, 11:44 PM

#

search

rare flax Apr 4, 2018, 11:44 PM

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ok

#

Ah yes

#

it is now working

#

thank you

#

do I need to update the mods too or will they just cooperate with the new api?

#

because the mods are acting finicy

#

I think I may of missed a step

#

Nah they seem to be working for the most part

solemn rivet Apr 5, 2018, 12:14 AM

#

some mods work, some don't

#

blackmoth in the gdrive is updated

#

I haven't bothered with bonfire yet, but should partially work

#

bossrush should theoretically work (I don't think anyone has tested it yet) as should rando

#

enemy rando is being developed on lifeblood, so it works

#

hell mod... Idk

rare flax Apr 5, 2018, 12:27 AM

#

hell mod is what I was trying

#

More saves is broken btw

#

Crawlids and Vengeflys take 3 hits to kill so idk if it truely is working or not

#

because I could have sworn from videos that enemies would take more hits

copper nacelle Apr 5, 2018, 12:29 AM

#

shit

#

i could've sworn it was working

solemn rivet Apr 5, 2018, 12:32 AM

#

zote

copper nacelle Apr 5, 2018, 12:33 AM

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i tested it too

#

ree

hazy sentinel Apr 5, 2018, 12:33 AM

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might be working idk

#

definitely nerfed nail damage

copper nacelle Apr 5, 2018, 12:33 AM

#

yeah checked it again

#

nail is definitely working as intended

hazy sentinel Apr 5, 2018, 12:34 AM

#

probably just 3-2-3

solemn rivet Apr 5, 2018, 12:34 AM

#

did you mess with enemy health?

copper nacelle Apr 5, 2018, 12:34 AM

#

i did

#

but it doesn't fail

#

it just skips past

#

because it checks for the fsm and if it doesn't exist just skips the collider

#

which is reasonable for beta because spells died

#

yeah crawlids and vengeflys are supposed to take 3 hits

#

souls is working

#

pretty sure it's all good

#

now to make the mantis gods zip not weird

sturdy jetty Apr 5, 2018, 12:40 AM

#

Can someone give me the API for 1.3.0.6?

copper nacelle Apr 5, 2018, 12:40 AM

#

from: Kerr#6073 has:file

sturdy jetty Apr 5, 2018, 12:40 AM

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So how do I navigate to that file?

#

@pearl sentinel has:file?

hazy sentinel Apr 5, 2018, 12:40 AM

#

big oof

copper nacelle Apr 5, 2018, 12:40 AM

#

wtfno

sturdy jetty Apr 5, 2018, 12:40 AM

#

So I enter a command on Discord and it directs me to it?

hazy sentinel Apr 5, 2018, 12:40 AM

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ctrl+F

copper nacelle Apr 5, 2018, 12:41 AM

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s e a r c h

hazy sentinel Apr 5, 2018, 12:41 AM

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press ctrl+f to pay search

solemn rivet Apr 5, 2018, 12:42 AM

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there's a search bar hidden somewhere... Can you find it?

hazy sentinel Apr 5, 2018, 12:42 AM

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no still searching

solemn rivet Apr 5, 2018, 12:42 AM

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thinkgrub

sturdy jetty Apr 5, 2018, 12:42 AM

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📎 modpic23.PNG

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This one?

solemn rivet Apr 5, 2018, 12:42 AM

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yup

copper nacelle Apr 5, 2018, 12:43 AM

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delet

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delet

hazy sentinel Apr 5, 2018, 12:43 AM

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light theme wtf

copper nacelle Apr 5, 2018, 12:43 AM

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light theme

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is unacceptable

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but yes

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you can also just grab the enemy rando download

solemn rivet Apr 5, 2018, 12:43 AM

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oh, yeah

copper nacelle Apr 5, 2018, 12:43 AM

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which I think also has the new scene hook

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so it's better

solemn rivet Apr 5, 2018, 12:43 AM

#

it's a new scene hook?

copper nacelle Apr 5, 2018, 12:43 AM

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new scene (border) hook thingy

solemn rivet Apr 5, 2018, 12:44 AM

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I thought it was a scene border hook

copper nacelle Apr 5, 2018, 12:44 AM

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gives dimensions

solemn rivet Apr 5, 2018, 12:44 AM

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oh

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gotcha

copper nacelle Apr 5, 2018, 12:44 AM

#

ModHooks.Instance.OnDrawBlackBorders

solemn rivet Apr 5, 2018, 12:44 AM

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kek

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that name tho

copper nacelle Apr 5, 2018, 12:45 AM

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yeah

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time to test System.IO.Compression

sturdy jetty Apr 5, 2018, 12:45 AM

#

So I got that file.

copper nacelle Apr 5, 2018, 12:45 AM

#

~~watch it not work~~

sturdy jetty Apr 5, 2018, 12:45 AM

#

Where do I put it in?

copper nacelle Apr 5, 2018, 12:45 AM

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click the pins button

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and scroll down to mystery's tutorial

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imo

#

o

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found out why the thing wasn't working

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i was using lzma iirc

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over deflate

hazy sentinel Apr 5, 2018, 12:47 AM

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Yzma

solemn rivet Apr 5, 2018, 12:47 AM

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lzma = eww

rare flax Apr 5, 2018, 12:47 AM

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darn it

#

keeps crashing whenever I use the enemy randomizer

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er load it

copper nacelle Apr 5, 2018, 12:48 AM

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are you using the new enemy rando

rare flax Apr 5, 2018, 12:48 AM

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yes

copper nacelle Apr 5, 2018, 12:48 AM

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w/ its api

rare flax Apr 5, 2018, 12:48 AM

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yes

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I used the api it came with

copper nacelle Apr 5, 2018, 12:48 AM

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modlog + output log imo

rare flax Apr 5, 2018, 12:49 AM

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how do I access those again?

copper nacelle Apr 5, 2018, 12:49 AM

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in saves folder, in hollow_knight_data folder

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both paths are in pins

rare flax Apr 5, 2018, 12:50 AM

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ah ok

hazy sentinel Apr 5, 2018, 12:50 AM

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hi guys is there a way to get like

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2000 nail damage

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on my first playthrough and im struggling a little

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@hazy sentinel hi struggling a little

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im scenic

rare flax Apr 5, 2018, 12:51 AM

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@cobalt spade doesn't work properly anymore

copper nacelle Apr 5, 2018, 12:52 AM

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he's mentioning himself

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because meme

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happygrub new zip works

rare flax Apr 5, 2018, 12:52 AM

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oh nvm

#

I am the dumb

solemn rivet Apr 5, 2018, 12:55 AM

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great 56! Thanks and sorry for the trouble

rare flax Apr 5, 2018, 12:57 AM

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Found the output log

📎 output_log.txt

sturdy jetty Apr 5, 2018, 12:57 AM

#

📎 Capture.PNG

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Do I put BossRush.dll in here or in the Managed Folder?

hazy sentinel Apr 5, 2018, 12:58 AM

#

mods

solemn rivet Apr 5, 2018, 12:58 AM

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neither

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in Mods inside Managed

copper nacelle Apr 5, 2018, 12:59 AM

#

^

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if that folder doesn't exist, make it

sturdy jetty Apr 5, 2018, 12:59 AM

#

Just to clarify, I need to manually create a folder called "Mods" right?

solemn rivet Apr 5, 2018, 12:59 AM

#

yeah

sturdy jetty Apr 5, 2018, 12:59 AM

#

I do not see a default "Mods" folder in Managed.

rare flax Apr 5, 2018, 12:59 AM

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nvm I'll sort this out some other time

hazy sentinel Apr 5, 2018, 12:59 AM

#

i want to ~~die~~ seek out a career in tech support

rare flax Apr 5, 2018, 12:59 AM

#

thanks for helping though

solemn rivet Apr 5, 2018, 12:59 AM

#

you know what, grab an installer from the pins

#

Crossroads should work

#

actually, Idk if crossroads can install mods from zip files

copper nacelle Apr 5, 2018, 1:00 AM

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i don't think it can

solemn rivet Apr 5, 2018, 1:02 AM

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https://github.com/Ayugradow/ModInstaller/releases/download/3.0/ModInstaller.exe

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try this

sturdy jetty Apr 5, 2018, 1:02 AM

#

It does not let me upload screenshot.

#

Did someone mute me?

solemn rivet Apr 5, 2018, 1:02 AM

#

select "manually install mods"

#

and select the bossrush.dll/zip

sturdy jetty Apr 5, 2018, 1:03 AM

#

Anyways, I got the Boss Rush mod to start.

solemn rivet Apr 5, 2018, 1:03 AM

#

oh

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ok then

sturdy jetty Apr 5, 2018, 1:03 AM

#

But I am trapped underneath the surface.

solemn rivet Apr 5, 2018, 1:03 AM

#

eh

copper nacelle Apr 5, 2018, 1:03 AM

#

beta?

sturdy jetty Apr 5, 2018, 1:04 AM

#

Yes, I am playing on 1.3.0.6 Beta.

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📎 Capture9.PNG

#

Can you check the title screen if I installed the mods corrrectly?

copper nacelle Apr 5, 2018, 1:10 AM

#

boss rush puts you in the ground

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in beta

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apparently

sturdy jetty Apr 5, 2018, 1:12 AM

#

📎 Capture.PNG

#

So this is what I get.

copper nacelle Apr 5, 2018, 1:13 AM

#

i think you have to use the earlier patch

#

or

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get debug and noclip out of the floor

#

also have to respawn false knight for some reason

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

sturdy jetty Apr 5, 2018, 1:14 AM

#

I see.

#

So I need to verify integrity of Steam files back to 1.2.2.1?

#

Well, at least I got the mods to start. So that is a start.

rain cedar Apr 5, 2018, 1:17 AM

#

Just opt out of the beta

#

If you want to get 1.2.2.1

sturdy jetty Apr 5, 2018, 1:18 AM

#

I started my 106% file to fight The Radiance again and now I am stuck in the "room" where the bench is before the The Hollow Knight fight.

rain cedar Apr 5, 2018, 1:20 AM

#

Sounds bad

sturdy jetty Apr 5, 2018, 1:35 AM

#

Also, I reverted back, but now Salubra is invisible even though I can still hear her hum and she still recovers my lost Soul.

#

So there is that.

#

I am using the save from the 1.3.0.6 to play 1.2.2.1 by the way.

rain cedar Apr 5, 2018, 1:37 AM

#

Verify game files

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Sounds fucked somehow

sturdy jetty Apr 5, 2018, 1:40 AM

#

I did verify the integrity of the game files.

#

It is just that I am using the 1.3.0.6 save to play on the 1.2.2.1 game.

#

So the game is reading "foreign" data.

#

This is something that verifying the integrity of the game files will not fix.

copper nacelle Apr 5, 2018, 1:42 AM

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it ignore new data u dungo

rain cedar Apr 5, 2018, 1:42 AM

#

That wouldn't break Salubra's blessing like that

#

That makes no sense

sturdy jetty Apr 5, 2018, 1:44 AM

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Well, it did for me.

#

It is not a big deal.

copper nacelle Apr 5, 2018, 1:45 AM

#

V e r i f y

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dungo

sturdy jetty Apr 5, 2018, 1:45 AM

#

So verify a 2nd time?

copper nacelle Apr 5, 2018, 1:50 AM

#

verify and if that doesn't work you could try uninstalling/reinstalling

solemn rivet Apr 5, 2018, 2:54 AM

#

and if that doesn't work try getting a new pc

reef flame Apr 5, 2018, 8:50 AM

#

Which API should i install for the lifeblood update?

rain cedar Apr 5, 2018, 8:51 AM

#

The most recent one kerr has posted

reef flame Apr 5, 2018, 8:52 AM

#

ok, thanks

slate igloo Apr 5, 2018, 3:16 PM

#

i will pay for som1 to make a multiplayer mod

solemn rivet Apr 5, 2018, 3:23 PM

#

How would that even work tho

young walrus Apr 5, 2018, 3:24 PM

#

cohhLUL

#

pay a school to learn coding, then make it yourself

#

it'll be done about the same time that way

solemn rivet Apr 5, 2018, 3:26 PM

#

I mean, how would a HK multiplayer mode work?

young walrus Apr 5, 2018, 3:27 PM

#

based on the discussion had a few days ago.... not easily

#

it would break everything

#

but hey.... I'll pay you to make it.

#

😉

solemn rivet Apr 5, 2018, 3:30 PM

#

I can think of a few ways to build a multiplayer metroidvania... But none of them would work as a mod of an already existing game, specially of HK

#

realistically speaking, it's as Mick said

#

you're better off learning to code yourself and making your own MP metroidvania

#

would be cheaper, less stressful and more likely to make you pleased with the end result

leaden hedge Apr 5, 2018, 4:10 PM

#

how much are you paying and what standard of quality am i required to achieve

solemn rivet Apr 5, 2018, 4:23 PM

#

hey, noob question

#

how can I hook a method to when a button is released?

#

GameManager.instance.inputHandler.inputActions.right.WasReleased

#

would this trigger only in the same/following frame?

buoyant obsidian Apr 5, 2018, 4:29 PM

#

I'll sell you Dreamshield Co-Op for $1.50

daring snow Apr 5, 2018, 4:31 PM

#

Hornet & Knight go to White Palace ™

solemn rivet Apr 5, 2018, 4:43 PM

#

ok, got it

leaden hedge Apr 5, 2018, 5:05 PM

#

should trigger the same frame

#

although you'd just do an update and check against that bool

solemn rivet Apr 5, 2018, 5:10 PM

#

Yeah, I figured it was faster to just check it myself

#

just BSOD'd

#

thankfully I'd just saved

solemn rivet Apr 5, 2018, 6:45 PM

#

I just realized

#

sigh

#

I was trying to improve grubberfly to make it less buggy in blackmoth

#

I ended up making it a blackmoth version of debug's noclip

#

smh

exotic venture Apr 5, 2018, 6:46 PM

#

that's pretty cool though

#

equip a charm, noclip

#

on another note, does someone have a bit of code when menderbug appears?

#

what odds etc

#

asking for a friend

solemn rivet Apr 5, 2018, 7:01 PM

#

https://puu.sh/zWWCr/15cec2bbf2.mp4

▶ Play video

rustic stag Apr 5, 2018, 7:14 PM

#

He looks like he's being propelled forward through a stream of jet-black diarrhea.

#

Or is that just me?

solemn rivet Apr 5, 2018, 7:14 PM

#

nope, that's intended

#

diarrHea Knight

rustic stag Apr 5, 2018, 7:15 PM

#

Great mod idea. Replace all the health icons with little poops.

#

So does the API still not compile with the beta atm?

pearl sentinel Apr 5, 2018, 7:25 PM

#

@exotic venture if you remind me in 5 hours I can tell you.

solemn rivet Apr 5, 2018, 7:26 PM

#

there are api versions for the beta, yes

#

kerr has some

#

and I've gotta go

rustic stag Apr 5, 2018, 7:32 PM

#

So I placed Kerr's assembly into the 'Vanilla' folder (I assume that's what I was supposed to do)
And I still get these errors

📎 unknown.png

pearl sentinel Apr 5, 2018, 7:33 PM

#

? My assembly is already modded

rustic stag Apr 5, 2018, 7:33 PM

#

So I must be missing something here?

#

Is there something I should have changed?

#

Oh wait. I think I realized what you mean. I'm a big dumb.

#

Is geo drop rate/amount not controlled by FSM anymore?

pearl sentinel Apr 5, 2018, 7:51 PM

#

Nope

#

Well, might be fsms that mess with it somewhere still

#

But values live in health manager class now

rustic stag Apr 5, 2018, 7:53 PM

#

Ah okay. Thanks!

wary drift Apr 5, 2018, 9:42 PM

#

can i get a link to the multiplayer mod download page?

#

i want it

young walrus Apr 5, 2018, 9:43 PM

#

cohhFail

wary drift Apr 5, 2018, 9:43 PM

#

i heard it's a thing

young walrus Apr 5, 2018, 9:43 PM

#

not sure what part of "go make it yourself." or... "how would that even work" would lead you to think that a multiplayer mod exists

copper nacelle Apr 5, 2018, 9:44 PM

#

dshield co-op

wary drift Apr 5, 2018, 9:44 PM

#

i heard there's a co-op mod in general

young walrus Apr 5, 2018, 9:44 PM

#

barely

wary drift Apr 5, 2018, 9:44 PM

#

oh...

#

but it does work?

young walrus Apr 5, 2018, 9:44 PM

#

one person controls where the dream shield is positioned

#

the other person plays normally

wary drift Apr 5, 2018, 9:44 PM

#

oh...

#

oh wow...

#

well then

copper nacelle Apr 5, 2018, 9:44 PM

#

you also get to teleport to the dream shield

wary drift Apr 5, 2018, 9:44 PM

#

i should just start thinking about that hollow knight coliseum fan game then

#

is it really that hard to make player v player as a mod to the coliseum?

copper nacelle Apr 5, 2018, 9:47 PM

#

yes

wary drift Apr 5, 2018, 9:47 PM

#

-_-

#

i am only rn learning how to make a discord bot with python

#

and that itself is breaking my mind

copper nacelle Apr 5, 2018, 9:48 PM

#

discord bots are neat

wary drift Apr 5, 2018, 9:48 PM

#

wait i can make a bot work with my account correct?

#

like make the bot control my account

rain cedar Apr 5, 2018, 9:48 PM

#

Why would you even want pvp in this?

wary drift Apr 5, 2018, 9:49 PM

#

i dunno

rain cedar Apr 5, 2018, 9:49 PM

#

The player is not balanced at all as an enemy

#

It would suck

wary drift Apr 5, 2018, 9:49 PM

#

oh yea...

copper nacelle Apr 5, 2018, 9:52 PM

#

you "can" make the bot control your account but that's against the TOS

#

so don't

wary drift Apr 5, 2018, 9:53 PM

#

oh kk

vagrant leaf Apr 5, 2018, 10:03 PM

#

yes 56 would never break tos intenseface

copper nacelle Apr 5, 2018, 10:03 PM

#

yes prehistoricbanana would never break tos

vagrant leaf Apr 5, 2018, 10:04 PM

#

i would never do such a thing

#

intenseface

half sierra Apr 5, 2018, 11:13 PM

#

Yep

compact sorrel Apr 5, 2018, 11:25 PM

#

Good day.

#

I could use some help from you again, guys. I need resources (sprites, atlases e.t.c) from the Radiance bossfight room. With Unity Studio i was able only to find sprite atlases of Radiance herself, but not the room background, props, e.t.c. (i checked EVERY asset in the game files) If any of you has ran across them, i'd greatly appreciate if you could share them.

civic bough Apr 5, 2018, 11:35 PM

#

I don't know if it has exactly what you're looking for, but this Imgur album has a lot of large environmental props in it

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https://imgur.com/a/5ex2Y

Imgur

sturdy jetty Apr 6, 2018, 12:12 AM

#

What does the enemy randomizer mod do?

Does it make random enemies appear out of nowhere?

#

So I can fight 3 copies Kingsmould in Dirtmouth even?

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 12:13 AM

#

It replaces enemies with other enemies

sturdy jetty Apr 6, 2018, 12:14 AM

#

Is it fun?

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 12:14 AM

#

That's completely subjective

sturdy jetty Apr 6, 2018, 12:15 AM

#

What mods should I play?

Boss Rush makes me clip underground with 1.3.0.6 beta.

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 12:15 AM

#

Why do you keep posting messages with weird formatting like that?

sturdy jetty Apr 6, 2018, 12:16 AM

#

Weird formatting = ?

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 12:17 AM

#

You're going down two lines and indenting on new sentences

#

📎 unknown.png

sturdy jetty Apr 6, 2018, 12:18 AM

#

So people can know when the sentence starts and ends in case I forget to capitalize a letter or put a punctuation mark at the end.

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 12:18 AM

#

If you say so

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 12:29 AM

#

play all the mods at once

#

ez

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 1:17 AM

#

best mod is Mystery imo

rustic stag Apr 6, 2018, 1:43 AM

#

Is there a way to alter enemy health values uniformly?

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 1:44 AM

#

what do you mean?

rustic stag Apr 6, 2018, 1:44 AM

#

As in blanketly. All of them at once. Say I want everthing to have double health.

#

Or rather, whenever the scene loads.

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 1:45 AM

#

yeah, sure

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 1:45 AM

#

HealthManager[] enemies = GameObject.FindObjectsOfType<HealthManager>();

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 1:52 AM

#

^

#

and then do something like

#

foreach (HealthManager enemy in enemies)
    enemy.hp *= 2;```

#

eh

#

that won't work, because that'll also double the hero's hp iirc

#

or not, because the hero is controller by HeroController

#

so it might work

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 1:54 AM

#

would enemies.select(i => i.hp *= 2) work

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 1:57 AM

#

Yeah probably

#

Linq is cool

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 1:57 AM

#

i need to look at linq

#

it seems very cool

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 1:58 AM

#

I need to understand linq better

#

I can only use any and all

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 1:59 AM

#

Select just applies a transform function to all the elements in the iterable you pass it

wide crown Apr 6, 2018, 1:59 AM

#

i wonder why not rando items

#

ala metroid

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 1:59 AM

#

That's already a mod my dude

wide crown Apr 6, 2018, 1:59 AM

#

nice are there videos or runs of it?

#

i'd love to see streams of it

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 2:00 AM

#

There's a race planned for saturday

wide crown Apr 6, 2018, 2:00 AM

#

neat

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 2:00 AM

#

imo play it

wide crown Apr 6, 2018, 2:00 AM

#

is HK on SGDQ?

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 2:00 AM

#

It was at the last two GDQs, but not the upcoming one

rustic stag Apr 6, 2018, 2:00 AM

#

Darn, health didn't change.
I'm trying to create randomized health 😂

wide crown Apr 6, 2018, 2:01 AM

#

https://www.twitch.tv/silviyah

#

omg this description of the run

#

hollow knight first playthrough but i can't stop gushing about how cute the caterpillars are

#

Lol

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 2:01 AM

#

Select might be creating deep copies of the iterable elements @rustic stag

#

So you're not modifying the actual enemies

rustic stag Apr 6, 2018, 2:01 AM

#

I was actually using Gradow's method. Hadn't tried 56's.

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 2:01 AM

#

Ah alright

#

I'll look into health manager a bit

wide crown Apr 6, 2018, 2:02 AM

#

if you check twitch, there're a LOT of blind streams atm

#

that's nice

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 2:02 AM

#

Right I don't even have the beta on this computer

wide crown Apr 6, 2018, 2:03 AM

#

7 blinds streams

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 2:03 AM

#

oh

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 2:03 AM

#

I'll just download kerr's api build and look at the class in there

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 2:03 AM

#

enemy.hp *= 3 is what i was using on a mod

#

and it was working

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

rustic stag Apr 6, 2018, 2:04 AM

#

Hmm. How was it being called? I have mine in a function getting called on scene change.

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 2:04 AM

#

MonoBehaviour checking for an enemy

rustic stag Apr 6, 2018, 2:05 AM

#

I'll have to try that then

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 2:05 AM

#

Try using the scene hook to start a coroutine that waits a frame then changes hp

copper nacelle Apr 6, 2018, 2:05 AM

#

^

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 2:05 AM

#

Enemies might not exist immediately on scene load

rustic stag Apr 6, 2018, 2:06 AM

#

How do I wait a frame?

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 2:06 AM

#

yield return new WaitForEndOfFrame();```

#

And for your hook adding thing you can just write something like:

UnityEngine.SceneManagement.SceneManager.sceneLoaded += (Scene scene, LoadSceneMode mode) => { StartCoroutine(ChangeHP()); };

#

Inline functions are cool for when you have a case like this where the "function" in question is basically nothing

rustic stag Apr 6, 2018, 2:12 AM

#

Just to test if it was working, I had it run on HeroUpdate. Doesn't seem to be working.

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 2:13 AM

#

Check that the function for finding HealthManagers isn't just returning an empty array

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 2:13 AM

#

would this work?

#

GameObject[] gameObject = GameObject.FindObjectsOfType<GameObject>();
List<HealthManager> enemies = new List<HealthManager>();
foreach (GameObject go in gameObject)
{
    if (!Equals(go.GetComponent<HealthManager>(), null))
        enemies.Add(go.GetComponent<HealthManager>());                    
}
enemies.Select(i => i.hp *= 2);```

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 2:15 AM

#

That's super nasty, though

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 2:16 AM

#

yeah

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 2:16 AM

#

FindObjectsOfType should work for finding components

solemn rivet Apr 6, 2018, 2:16 AM

#

I hacked that up just in case it didn't

#

but it seems it's not working still

#

esipode, do what sean suggested and log the enemies list

rustic stag Apr 6, 2018, 2:17 AM

#

Right...
How I do that?

#

Just log Healthmanager?

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 2:18 AM

#

Log the count of your HealthManager list

#

Or length if it's an array

#

Should be an array

rustic stag Apr 6, 2018, 2:21 AM

#

Log($@"{List<HealthManager>}");

Giving me red squigglies. Why wrong?

rain cedar Apr 6, 2018, 2:21 AM

#

Uhhh