#archived-modding-development | Hollow Knight | Page 70

copper nacelle Mar 26, 2018, 3:21 PM

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wtf

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\r\n\t\r\n\t

solemn rivet Mar 26, 2018, 3:23 PM

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it's my fault

exotic venture Mar 26, 2018, 3:24 PM

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that's cuz of $@

solemn rivet Mar 26, 2018, 3:25 PM

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^

mellow oyster Mar 26, 2018, 3:25 PM

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Bonfire mod?

copper nacelle Mar 26, 2018, 3:25 PM

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what about it

mellow oyster Mar 26, 2018, 3:26 PM

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What is...?

vagrant leaf Mar 26, 2018, 3:26 PM

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levelling like ds

copper nacelle Mar 26, 2018, 3:26 PM

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^

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and appropriate enemy scaling and such

vagrant leaf Mar 26, 2018, 3:26 PM

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at bench

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"appropriate"

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even tho midgame you get insanely op

mellow oyster Mar 26, 2018, 3:27 PM

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How enemy scaling works?

vagrant leaf Mar 26, 2018, 3:27 PM

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more health on enemies

copper nacelle Mar 26, 2018, 3:27 PM

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more geo

solemn rivet Mar 26, 2018, 3:27 PM

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with levels and progression

vagrant leaf Mar 26, 2018, 3:27 PM

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it becomes ez game

mellow oyster Mar 26, 2018, 3:27 PM

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I think this mod would only completed after the release of Gods and Glory.

copper nacelle Mar 26, 2018, 3:28 PM

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what

solemn rivet Mar 26, 2018, 3:28 PM

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it's been released for a loooong time

vagrant leaf Mar 26, 2018, 3:28 PM

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can u grammar

copper nacelle Mar 26, 2018, 3:28 PM

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but the mod is released

mellow oyster Mar 26, 2018, 3:28 PM

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I didn't know. Sorry for my ignorance

solemn rivet Mar 26, 2018, 3:29 PM

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np

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you can play it in the public release of HK

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not in the beta tho

vagrant leaf Mar 26, 2018, 3:30 PM

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beta bonfire when

mellow oyster Mar 26, 2018, 3:30 PM

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If there is a bonfire, then who is firekeeper?

vagrant leaf Mar 26, 2018, 3:31 PM

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there aint a bonfire

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theres a bench

copper nacelle Mar 26, 2018, 3:31 PM

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firekeeper doesn't exist

solemn rivet Mar 26, 2018, 3:31 PM

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firekeeper is elderbug

copper nacelle Mar 26, 2018, 3:31 PM

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it's like ds1

mellow oyster Mar 26, 2018, 3:31 PM

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Just joking

copper nacelle Mar 26, 2018, 3:31 PM

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without a firekeeper

solemn rivet Mar 26, 2018, 3:31 PM

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elderbug

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touch the darkness within him

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doo eet

mellow oyster Mar 26, 2018, 3:31 PM

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DS 1 had a firekeeper, but she was a mute

copper nacelle Mar 26, 2018, 3:31 PM

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ik

vagrant leaf Mar 26, 2018, 3:32 PM

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elderbug

copper nacelle Mar 26, 2018, 3:32 PM

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it's like ds1 after laurtec struck

mellow oyster Mar 26, 2018, 3:32 PM

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There any mod to make Nosk a little more intersting?

solemn rivet Mar 26, 2018, 3:32 PM

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yeah

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enemy rando

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kek

vagrant leaf Mar 26, 2018, 3:33 PM

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because it replaces him with another enemy

young walrus Mar 26, 2018, 3:33 PM

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take a blindfold, and put it over your eyes during the fight

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boom, more interesting

solemn rivet Mar 26, 2018, 3:34 PM

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not only is he replaced by another enemy

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you might also never meet him

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AND

vagrant leaf Mar 26, 2018, 3:34 PM

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go out of bounds and skip him

solemn rivet Mar 26, 2018, 3:34 PM

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even better

vagrant leaf Mar 26, 2018, 3:34 PM

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more interesting

solemn rivet Mar 26, 2018, 3:34 PM

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he might appear randomly in crossroads to rek you

copper nacelle Mar 26, 2018, 3:34 PM

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wait no

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nosk causes memory leaks

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so he doesn't go out of his room

solemn rivet Mar 26, 2018, 3:35 PM

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I'm pretty sure it's the other way around

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memory leaks causes nosk

mellow oyster Mar 26, 2018, 3:35 PM

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Sounds interesting, but I don't like the idea of randomized enemies

vagrant leaf Mar 26, 2018, 3:36 PM

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it's really fun

solemn rivet Mar 26, 2018, 3:36 PM

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enemy rando is probably the most interesting mod in a while

vagrant leaf Mar 26, 2018, 3:36 PM

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^

solemn rivet Mar 26, 2018, 3:36 PM

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it really spices gameplay

vagrant leaf Mar 26, 2018, 3:36 PM

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that and mantis gods

solemn rivet Mar 26, 2018, 3:36 PM

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yeah

mellow oyster Mar 26, 2018, 3:38 PM

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Generally I'm no so a fan of randomized enemies

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A pet pevee of mine, oh well

copper nacelle Mar 26, 2018, 3:38 PM

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@vagrant leaf did you see the mantis gods update

vagrant leaf Mar 26, 2018, 3:38 PM

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what

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no

copper nacelle Mar 26, 2018, 3:39 PM

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Decreased boomerangs in the second phase a ton & buffed a few other moves a bit to compensate

Should make the fight not RNG

Attachment #1

📁 Mantis_Gods.dll

vagrant leaf Mar 26, 2018, 3:39 PM

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YES

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boomerang

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fix

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confirmed

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i'll fight them again once you add third phase

copper nacelle Mar 26, 2018, 3:39 PM

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ok

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time to add third phase

solemn rivet Mar 26, 2018, 3:39 PM

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third phase - traitor steps in

young walrus Mar 26, 2018, 3:39 PM

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oh baby

solemn rivet Mar 26, 2018, 3:39 PM

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and they all fight together like the old times

copper nacelle Mar 26, 2018, 3:40 PM

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that would actually be neat

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add a fourth lord

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who's getting infected

vagrant leaf Mar 26, 2018, 3:40 PM

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arena too smol

copper nacelle Mar 26, 2018, 3:40 PM

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orange boomerangs and stuff

solemn rivet Mar 26, 2018, 3:40 PM

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explody boomerangs

copper nacelle Mar 26, 2018, 3:40 PM

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like a normal mantis lord but orange shit

solemn rivet Mar 26, 2018, 3:40 PM

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so you can't pogo

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you pogo = you ded

vagrant leaf Mar 26, 2018, 3:40 PM

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pain

mellow oyster Mar 26, 2018, 3:40 PM

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Dream Mantis Lords, four againts one

vagrant leaf Mar 26, 2018, 3:41 PM

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have third phase be one mantis but boomerangs are the new traitor attack

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also ground pound when they dive into the ground

copper nacelle Mar 26, 2018, 3:43 PM

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what's neat

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is with the decrease in boomerangs

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they do synced up attacks more

vagrant leaf Mar 26, 2018, 3:43 PM

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n e a t

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:**: ![cg2](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/419426375737278474.webp?size=128 "cg2")

regal steppe Mar 26, 2018, 4:22 PM

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Is there a glitch during the collector fight in 1.2.2.1?

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I was using the boss rush mod and after I beat it, it stood there

copper nacelle Mar 26, 2018, 4:22 PM

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yes

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summon charms break it

regal steppe Mar 26, 2018, 4:23 PM

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Oh I selected Weaversong in one of the rewards

hollow pier Mar 26, 2018, 4:23 PM

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fluke breaks too

regal steppe Mar 26, 2018, 4:23 PM

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feelsbadman

hollow pier Mar 26, 2018, 4:23 PM

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wait but why did you select weaversong as a reward

regal steppe Mar 26, 2018, 4:24 PM

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the others were equally as bad

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does this also happen in the main game?

hollow pier Mar 26, 2018, 4:24 PM

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yes

regal steppe Mar 26, 2018, 4:24 PM

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Gotcha, thank you!

solemn rivet Mar 26, 2018, 4:24 PM

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that's a vanilla bug

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avoid damaging Collector with anything other than nail and spells

hollow pier Mar 26, 2018, 4:26 PM

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but fluke be a spell

solemn rivet Mar 26, 2018, 4:27 PM

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shhh

rustic stag Mar 26, 2018, 4:34 PM

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Man, I leave for a few days and everything changes!

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Will the new github repo compile with the public beta?

pearl sentinel Mar 26, 2018, 4:36 PM

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If you modify it

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Or scroll up and grab the mostly working one I pasted in here

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@rain cedar graig offered to give code to tc if you make a replacement for an fsm. He thinks it's likely they would replace the fsm with a component if we wrote one

rustic stag Mar 26, 2018, 4:44 PM

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Getting errors because "The Type MonoModOriginalName exists in both AssemblyCSharp and MonoMod"
Anyone know how to fix that?

buoyant wasp Mar 26, 2018, 4:44 PM

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Yup I posted a fixed monomod

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But Kerr has been doing a bunch to start fixing things

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Dunno if he has forked it on github yet or not

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But I know the save stuff he was working on redoing since it all changed

rustic stag Mar 26, 2018, 4:47 PM

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Ah okay. Do we know what else changed? I assume a lot of FSM stuff.

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Darn, still getting one error

📎 unknown.png

buoyant wasp Mar 26, 2018, 4:52 PM

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@pearl sentinel can probably tell you the most. Honestly outside of fixing the monomod thing, I haven't really been able to do much here lately. what little mental power i have after work has been devoted to another non game project :/

rustic stag Mar 26, 2018, 4:54 PM

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Ah, that's fine. I assume that the error is due to vanilla changes, and so LevelReady doesn't exist anymore.

pearl sentinel Mar 26, 2018, 4:56 PM

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yeah i think it's now

    //[MonoModIgnore] public event GameManager.EnterSceneEvent OnFinishedEnteringScene;

but it's not used there anymore. currently the LoadFirstScene function doesn't even get called anymore it seems. Seanpr found the one that gets called instead on starting a new game

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the new game hook needs to be moved there

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(wherever that is)

rustic stag Mar 26, 2018, 4:58 PM

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So then 'NextLevelReady' is probably 'NextScene'?

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Oh, nevermind. Doesn't work. Fudge.

pearl sentinel Mar 26, 2018, 5:00 PM

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📎 GameManager.cs

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there's my game manager monomod patch

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like i said, new game hook doesn't seem to be getting called so it's not really done yet

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gotta run to work for now tho

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feel free to remove the comments, that was just the old code

solemn rivet Mar 26, 2018, 5:01 PM

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I think I can manage blackmoth without new hooks

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still, hooking onto HealthManager.TakeDamage/Hit would be really nice

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also, Wyza, if I can make this work, we won't need that convoluted way of changing spells' damage we were using earlier

buoyant wasp Mar 26, 2018, 5:16 PM

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that'd be nice 😃

solemn rivet Mar 26, 2018, 5:31 PM

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yeah, I think I'll just add that hook

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will make things easier

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waaay easier

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can we hook into PlayMaker?

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specifically the HutongGames.PlayMaker.Actions namespace

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if not, that's fine too

leaden hedge Mar 26, 2018, 6:26 PM

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@rain cedar the check is on the other fsm, the one that spawns everything else, it just goes
if type = whatever, then if subtype = whatever, if not playerdata(bool for item) spawn all the shit
you can change that pretty easy to make it skip the entire code or skip directly to the spawn code

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the split is for charms/major items/misc
misc being journals and some other shit

obtuse sequoia Mar 26, 2018, 9:40 PM

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so did lifeblood make the game any more TASable?

young walrus Mar 26, 2018, 10:24 PM

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well there's still random AI, no way to seed it, and no solid way to do frame by frame inputs so.... no

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with the AI/enemy randomness being the biggest issue

rain cedar Mar 26, 2018, 10:25 PM

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If anything this patch is worse

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They added asynchronous loading to a lot of spots

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We'd need to undo that as well as the work there already was

solemn rivet Mar 26, 2018, 10:32 PM

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since no one complained, I'm gonna add the hook

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not gonna do a pull request tho

leaden hedge Mar 26, 2018, 10:36 PM

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yeah you can hook into stuff in there

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but because a lot of the stuff is reused you have to be sure the thing you're hooking only does what you think it does where you think it should

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or add checks in your mod

rain cedar Mar 26, 2018, 10:48 PM

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Having problems with tk2dSpriteAnimator not always sending animation complete events now

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I love all these third party libraries

leaden hedge Mar 26, 2018, 10:49 PM

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I just manually timed it when I did it

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although I pretty quickly dropped the custom inspect code for the ui version

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so I don't remember any of the values

rain cedar Mar 26, 2018, 10:50 PM

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I don't need to have timing values, I can just grab the data from the animator

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It properly updates the current frame and stores the end frame

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It just doesn't send the event when the frame > end frame sometimes

leaden hedge Mar 26, 2018, 10:52 PM

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I wasn't sure if stuff looped

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so didn't want to use current frame to check

rain cedar Mar 26, 2018, 10:52 PM

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Some stuff loops

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Like the walk animation obviously

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Turn doesn't loop

rain cedar Mar 26, 2018, 11:21 PM

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The item grab animation is supposed to pause until you close the popup, right?

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Gotta figure out how to pause an animation

leaden hedge Mar 26, 2018, 11:21 PM

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yeah it pauses on the knelt frame

rain cedar Mar 26, 2018, 11:22 PM

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Shouldn't be too bad, just gotta figure out which frame to pause it on

rain cedar Mar 27, 2018, 3:29 AM

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I keep running into more and more shit I have to grab from FSMs for this

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Every item state has its own FSM it can spawn to show the popup

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This is a nightmare

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They've actually got their own custom FSM action that spawns a new FSM which displays text on screen

leaden hedge Mar 27, 2018, 3:31 AM

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sounds super smart

solemn rivet Mar 27, 2018, 3:32 AM

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fsm actions are actually the stuff nightmares are made of

rain cedar Mar 27, 2018, 3:33 AM

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They're so tedious to do anything with at runtime

leaden hedge Mar 27, 2018, 3:33 AM

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fsms are the stuff nightmares are made of though 🤔

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fsm actions must be double nightmares

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 3:34 AM

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nightmare^2

rain cedar Mar 27, 2018, 3:35 AM

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Seriously though coding item pickups would take like 15 minutes if I just had all the objects I need already

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But now it's gonna take weeks because every 5 minutes I have to go do something else to not kill myself

solemn rivet Mar 27, 2018, 3:35 AM

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you're a hero

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I gave up doing my (simpler) thing waaaaay earlier

rain cedar Mar 27, 2018, 3:36 AM

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My end goal is to have a component I can stick on a shiny that will grab all the data that's relevant, destroy every fsm, make a new component to control the pickup with the relevant data, then destroy itself

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 3:37 AM

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neat

leaden hedge Mar 27, 2018, 3:38 AM

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I just made a new object and loaded the Inspect sprites, and rendered text via canvas. although I knew what the objects would be

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so it only took a day or so to implement

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I'd give you all the code but I scrapped the idea so fast I don't even think I uploaded it to github

rain cedar Mar 27, 2018, 3:38 AM

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I'm probably beyond the point where that would help, anyway

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I already have the pickup working, for the most part

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Problems right now:
Doesn't say "Inspect" in the marker
Doesn't check if it's picked up already on scene load
Doesn't show popup after picking up

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The player animation is fully working, though

leaden hedge Mar 27, 2018, 3:40 AM

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first problem is something I had, fixed by adding another component that renders to canvas on player enter / exit, second one is pretty easy

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third one I never bothered with

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as you'd instantly teleport on item pickup anyway

rain cedar Mar 27, 2018, 3:41 AM

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Problem 1 and 3 I need to dig deeper into the FSMs for

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2 should just be simple PlayerData/SceneData checks

solemn rivet Mar 27, 2018, 3:41 AM

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it's FSMs all the way down

leaden hedge Mar 27, 2018, 3:41 AM

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pretty sure theres a state in the "toplevel" fsm

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for both 3 and 2

rain cedar Mar 27, 2018, 3:41 AM

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The inspect region?

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Or shiny control?

leaden hedge Mar 27, 2018, 3:41 AM

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shiny control

rain cedar Mar 27, 2018, 3:42 AM

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Yeah

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 3:42 AM

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The fsms are like some evil dark maze

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You are likely to be eaten by a grue

rain cedar Mar 27, 2018, 3:42 AM

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Worst thing with the FSMs is figuring out where all the random global events come from

leaden hedge Mar 27, 2018, 3:42 AM

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I know the charm tutorial popup is in shiny control atleast

rain cedar Mar 27, 2018, 3:42 AM

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It is, yeah

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The other popups are kinda in there

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But not really

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It spawns a new FSM to control those

leaden hedge Mar 27, 2018, 3:43 AM

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I'd probably just recode it tbh

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it's just an image + text

rain cedar Mar 27, 2018, 3:43 AM

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That's not the hard part

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The hard part is finding the image + text in the FSM maze

leaden hedge Mar 27, 2018, 3:43 AM

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why bother

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don't you know what item it is from shiny control

rain cedar Mar 27, 2018, 3:44 AM

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Yeah but I don't have the assets for the popup

leaden hedge Mar 27, 2018, 3:44 AM

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just load text and images from your dll from that

rain cedar Mar 27, 2018, 3:44 AM

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So I either find the text + image in the FSM or I find it using Unity Studio and embed it

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Either way is work, I'll just get it from the FSM

leaden hedge Mar 27, 2018, 3:45 AM

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will all of them be in every fsm

rain cedar Mar 27, 2018, 3:45 AM

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Yes, should be

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The msg control is one fsm with all the crap in it

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📎 unknown.png

leaden hedge Mar 27, 2018, 3:46 AM

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well thats only the big popup

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not the small one bottom left

rain cedar Mar 27, 2018, 3:47 AM

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I haven't looked at that but it's its own FSM as well

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In any case, every pickup doesn't need to have every image

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Just the relevant ones

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 3:48 AM

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code that has a hard dependency on an fsm so it will never be removed ( 🔫 ) [jk, I know it's necessary but also sad/horrific]

leaden hedge Mar 27, 2018, 3:49 AM

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yeah it'd be nice if you're going to rework the item pickup system to make it actually work

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i.e. if you pick up a charm from a big pickup it'd actually spawn a small popup

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instead of

unrelated image

charm

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 3:49 AM

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Your rework inspires me to want to rework some of the broken fsms I've been dealing with

rain cedar Mar 27, 2018, 3:50 AM

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Well the idea here is that the second component which actually controls the item will get put into the game officially

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Since Graig said that's a possibility

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Then it would be trivial to change images

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 3:51 AM

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Makes sense

leaden hedge Mar 27, 2018, 3:51 AM

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I'd finish the inventory rewrite

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 3:51 AM

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A big thing I want to change are the fsms that have tons of logic to do raycats on enemies

leaden hedge Mar 27, 2018, 3:51 AM

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but implementing the map and journal into it sounds cancer

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 3:51 AM

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Like, 10 or more actions to do one function call

rain cedar Mar 27, 2018, 3:52 AM

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Yeah, FSM actions are not exactly efficient

leaden hedge Mar 27, 2018, 3:52 AM

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they could be efficient if they actually made bespoke actions

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 3:52 AM

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That's where most of my enemies softlock themselves

leaden hedge Mar 27, 2018, 3:52 AM

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instead of just sticking hundreds of one liners together

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also I wonder if you could make a semi automated way of converting fsms -> raw csharp

rain cedar Mar 27, 2018, 3:55 AM

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Yeah for sure you could

leaden hedge Mar 27, 2018, 3:55 AM

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considering each state is just an array of csharp code technically

rain cedar Mar 27, 2018, 3:55 AM

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I've already coded a few actions

leaden hedge Mar 27, 2018, 3:55 AM

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that gets iterated over

rain cedar Mar 27, 2018, 3:55 AM

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Maybe that's worth doing

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 3:56 AM

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Reflection + Cleverness = Fucking Magnets

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I mean, magic....

rain cedar Mar 27, 2018, 3:59 AM

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Any automatically generated code would probably be worse than the FSM, honestly

solemn rivet Mar 27, 2018, 3:59 AM

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but more manageable?

leaden hedge Mar 27, 2018, 3:59 AM

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nah

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simply doing the exact same thing as the fsm

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but without the hundreds of objects it uses

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should 100% be a speed improvement

rain cedar Mar 27, 2018, 4:00 AM

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Maybe we should do the reverse and try to turn things into FSMs

leaden hedge Mar 27, 2018, 4:00 AM

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maybe the clusterfuck states like inventory might not be

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 4:01 AM

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NotLikeThis

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I'm mostly commentating out of desire to participate because I can't program tonight

leaden hedge Mar 27, 2018, 4:02 AM

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I'm pretty unlikely to be working on anything HK related for a while

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still working on CelesteLevelEditor

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which might take a while to get up to a usable state hollowface

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 4:03 AM

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Doesn't celeste already have an editor in the source?

leaden hedge Mar 27, 2018, 4:04 AM

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its a "map" editor, it only lets you move the rooms around

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and the save function is removed in the release versions

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 4:04 AM

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Ahh

leaden hedge Mar 27, 2018, 4:05 AM

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https://gfycat.com/PoliticalRemarkableHoneybee

Gfycat

2018-03-23 21-30-32

▶ Play video

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this is mine

rain cedar Mar 27, 2018, 4:06 AM

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That's pretty neat

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 4:06 AM

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Cool!

vagrant leaf Mar 27, 2018, 4:08 AM

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Celeste maker

leaden hedge Mar 27, 2018, 4:08 AM

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get out of here nintendo lawyers

solemn rivet Mar 27, 2018, 5:16 AM

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Too bad celeste doesn't have many puzzling capabilities

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 5:18 AM

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Yeah, the boss fight part where she dash attacks her bad self was super cool, but I think about the limit of what they could do

solemn rivet Mar 27, 2018, 5:18 AM

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Yeah

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And the hearts thingies

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Those are environmental puzzles more than anything

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 5:19 AM

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Yep

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Have you seen the unity ML agents?

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https://blogs.unity3d.com/2017/09/19/introducing-unity-machine-learning-agents/

Unity Technologies Blog

Introducing: Unity Machine Learning Agents – Unity Blog

Our two previous blog entries implied that there is a role games can play in driving the development of Reinforcement Learning algorithms. As the world’s m...

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What if we took an enemy and hooked it up with this

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*boss enemy

leaden hedge Mar 27, 2018, 5:21 AM

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well you have much more control of celeste via mods

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hell we already have an online multiplayer mod

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 5:23 AM

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Not surprising, just sounds not as fun as hollow knight

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But I'm a sucker for combat and flashy action

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 6:20 AM

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Holy shitsnacks

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I found the missing enemies, and more I think. They are now actual fucking prefabs

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I don't have to preload them

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mylajoy

rain cedar Mar 27, 2018, 6:37 AM

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Wow that's amazing

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Where are they?

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Can you just get them from resources or what?

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 6:40 AM

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📎 enemy_prefabs.txt

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just dumped them

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 6:41 AM

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holy shit

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 6:41 AM

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idk if that's everything yet

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will have to compare to my other list in the morning

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but that's still huge

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 6:42 AM

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doesn't have everything

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but still most stuff

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no mantises

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 6:42 AM

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?

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 6:42 AM

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wait

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notepad find sucks

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 6:42 AM

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it does

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check index 467 onward

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 6:44 AM

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yea

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had to change notepad find to up

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and then swapped to vs because notepad bad

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 6:45 AM

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[INFO]:[EnemyRandomizer] - EnemyRandomizerLoader.CompleteEnemyRandomizerDataLoad() :::: EnemyResources[506] = Mega Zombie Beam Miner (HealthManager)
[INFO]:[EnemyRandomizer] - EnemyRandomizerLoader.CompleteEnemyRandomizerDataLoad() :::: EnemyResources[507] = Zombie Beam Miner Rematch (HealthManager)

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that explains why CG and CG2 work now

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they were made prefabs

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omg this is amazing

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 6:45 AM

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yea

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 6:45 AM

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it's like christmas and TC is santa

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and i need to get to bed so i can open presents in the morning

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 6:46 AM

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lol

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 6:46 AM

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aka prefabs

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ok i still need to load a few scenes

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the.. gorms? or w/e, the big worms that shoot outta the ground

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they don't have health managers since they can't die

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so they aren't in here i think

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and a few other things, like the laser turrets

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 6:47 AM

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inb4 loading time is now 5s

trim totem Mar 27, 2018, 6:48 AM

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what implications does the update have for modding in general?

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 6:48 AM

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health manager

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less fsms in general

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and prefab enemies

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 6:48 AM

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things are getting much easier to change/add/etc

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 6:48 AM

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are the biggest things

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 6:49 AM

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the game is faster, more stable, more flexible

trim totem Mar 27, 2018, 6:49 AM

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how about stuff like lightbringer and blackmoth?

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 6:49 AM

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last i heard blackmoth worked? i think. lightbringer needs an update since it's not an API mod so who knows

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 6:49 AM

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^

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blackmoth was like

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99% working

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i think

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yea

📎 unknown.png

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 6:50 AM

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what's more, with these changes, i'll be able to do stuff like randomize parts of enemies

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 6:51 AM

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how are you grabbing the prefabs?

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 6:52 AM

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these guys are all prefabs

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Real Bat (HealthManager)
Grimm Boss (HealthManager)
Nightmare Grimm Boss (HealthManager)
Head (HealthManager)
False Knight Dream (HealthManager)
Tinger (HealthManager)
Dream Mage Lord (HealthManager)
Dream Mage Lord Phase2 (HealthManager)
Dream Mage Lord Phase2 (HealthManager)
Lost Kin (HealthManager)
White Defender (HealthManager)
White Defender (HealthManager)
Zote Balloon (HealthManager)
Zoteling (1) (HealthManager)
Grey Prince (HealthManager)
Dream Mage Lord Phase2 (HealthManager)
Radiance (HealthManager)
Hollow Knight Boss (HealthManager)

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meaning, i think they'll all work spawned at the same time

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ultimate showdown

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anyway, this

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Dev.LogVarArray( "EnemyResources", Resources.FindObjectsOfTypeAll<HealthManager>() );

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something needs to be triggered to "preload" them into the resource manager

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but i can figure that out tomorrow

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basically, i did a "find" after opening all the scenes

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but opening a scene isn't the only way to get prefabs into the resource manager

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i think this will work

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https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Resources.Load.html

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now that we know they are there

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 6:54 AM

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yeah

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 6:56 AM

#

anyway

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back to bed for me

#

hype

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oh, you wanted effects right?

#

it looks like there's a lot in the resources too

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[INFO]:[EnemyRandomizer] - EnemyRandomizerLoader.CompleteEnemyRandomizerDataLoad() :::: Resources[23550] = Roar Antic (UnityEngine.Transform)
[INFO]:[EnemyRandomizer] - EnemyRandomizerLoader.CompleteEnemyRandomizerDataLoad() :::: Resources[23551] = Hornet Hold (UnityEngine.Transform)
[INFO]:[EnemyRandomizer] - EnemyRandomizerLoader.CompleteEnemyRandomizerDataLoad() :::: Resources[23552] = Slash (UnityEngine.Transform)
[INFO]:[EnemyRandomizer] - EnemyRandomizerLoader.CompleteEnemyRandomizerDataLoad() :::: Resources[23553] = PuppetSlam Effect (UnityEngine.Transform)
[INFO]:[EnemyRandomizer] - EnemyRandomizerLoader.CompleteEnemyRandomizerDataLoad() :::: Resources[23554] = Pt Mist Burst (UnityEngine.Transform)

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mfw i can make my custom boss roar now

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grimm

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 6:57 AM

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nice

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n i c e

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 7:13 AM

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@copper nacelle if you're not in bed yet, you should let me know if this works: https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Resources.LoadAll.html

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Should load everything if you pass it an empty string

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 7:14 AM

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i'll try it

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 7:15 AM

#

I wonder if there's enemies that weren't in my list because there was no scene to cause them to preload thinkgrub

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Or... other things, like charms or items or who knows

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 7:18 AM

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what type should I log

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 7:20 AM

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Imo do no type and just print everything, but.... maybe game objects?

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Or things with health managers

rain cedar Mar 27, 2018, 7:20 AM

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It'd be nice to know everything in there

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 7:21 AM

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^

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 7:22 AM

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probably being dumb but

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how do I iterate through everything

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Resources is a type

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 7:23 AM

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After load, do that find I did earlier

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For each on resources. Find all of type

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Phone ruins code formatting

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 7:24 AM

#

but for type

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how would I specify no type

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 7:24 AM

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Oh, on iteration?

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 7:24 AM

#

yeah

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 7:25 AM

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Probably do something like find all of type UnityEngine.Object

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If I had to guess

obtuse sequoia Mar 27, 2018, 7:25 AM

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how can there be rng without a seed?
and can we not edit all the code to use a more sensible random generator, as much work as that would be?

rain cedar Mar 27, 2018, 7:26 AM

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It makes much more sense to mod UnityEngine.Random

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 7:26 AM

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that's a lot of stuff

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tfw modlog over 8mb

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there's text and shit in it

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Geo Text

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 7:26 AM

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Yeah, my randomizer used an rng sequence generator which is juts a wrapper around the mersenne twister

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 7:26 AM

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Kings Brand

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etc

obtuse sequoia Mar 27, 2018, 7:27 AM

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so why do we not mod unityengine.tandom?

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 7:27 AM

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Oooo

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Nice

rain cedar Mar 27, 2018, 7:27 AM

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Why don't YOU mod it?

obtuse sequoia Mar 27, 2018, 7:27 AM

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for deterministic TASing

leaden hedge Mar 27, 2018, 7:27 AM

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doesn't really make a difference

obtuse sequoia Mar 27, 2018, 7:27 AM

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good question

leaden hedge Mar 27, 2018, 7:27 AM

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you dont even know if it'll get evaluated in the same order every time

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loading is async now afaik

rain cedar Mar 27, 2018, 7:28 AM

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You would need to do a lot of things to make TAS a reality:
Consistent randomness
Remove all threading
Consistent delta between frames
Input replay

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 7:28 AM

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wtf

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the journal entry

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xml

#

is in here

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 7:28 AM

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Oh hott

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 7:28 AM

#

📎 unknown.png

rain cedar Mar 27, 2018, 7:28 AM

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Post the stuff my dude

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 7:28 AM

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should I split the file in two?

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it's 9mb

rain cedar Mar 27, 2018, 7:28 AM

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Just zip it

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 7:28 AM

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discord is 8

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alright

#

📎 neat.zip

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 7:29 AM

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Thirsty for this bed time reading material

rain cedar Mar 27, 2018, 7:29 AM

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Wow 22 bytes that is some efficient compression

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It's not even in there lol

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Jebaited

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 7:29 AM

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wtf

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 7:29 AM

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noot

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 7:30 AM

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wasn't working because game was open

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📎 ModLog.zip

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 7:31 AM

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I would love a smaller sublist of things with health managers

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 7:32 AM

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tfw tried to grab health managers

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and all i got

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was hollow shade

rain cedar Mar 27, 2018, 7:32 AM

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I can't even extract this

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Winrar and explorer both fail

obtuse sequoia Mar 27, 2018, 7:32 AM

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why do frame deltas affect things?
doesn't bigger deltas mean the same things happen but slower?

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 7:32 AM

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oof

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I'll try a different compression

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 7:33 AM

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He uses 7zip

rain cedar Mar 27, 2018, 7:33 AM

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Oh I have that too

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I'll try

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 7:33 AM

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Which I also can't open on my phone

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 7:33 AM

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wtf

📎 unknown.png

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 7:33 AM

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After load all?

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 7:33 AM

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yeah

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 7:33 AM

#

noot

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 7:33 AM

#

📎 unknown.png

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 7:34 AM

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Hmmm.

rain cedar Mar 27, 2018, 7:34 AM

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Alright yeah 7zip can open it

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Dang there's 100k lines in here

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 7:36 AM

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Maybe there's more folders to open

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 7:36 AM

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this should open

📎 ModLog.zip

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with explorer and stuff

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do you think it'll take globs

rain cedar Mar 27, 2018, 7:37 AM

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Hm this has scene names marked as sprites

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 7:38 AM

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What about this? https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/AssetDatabase.FindAssets.html

rain cedar Mar 27, 2018, 7:38 AM

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AssetDatabase is editor

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 7:38 AM

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Dang

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Well un the resources dump is there any asset bundles

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(Opens file to look)

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 7:39 AM

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i can't find any

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but also notepad find

rain cedar Mar 27, 2018, 7:40 AM

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I don't see any bundles either

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 7:44 AM

#

Yo that xml has some GG_ entries for some VERY interesting names...

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 7:44 AM

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GG_S_MANTISLORD

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lobster lancer is the god tamer boss right?

#

nice leak

📎 unknown.png

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wait

#

that's a

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 7:47 AM

#

📎 Screenshot_2018-03-27-00-47-08.png

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 7:47 AM

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very interesting name

#

yeah

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just saw that

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 7:47 AM

#

Forgive the dark phone coloring

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 7:47 AM

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@boreal valve i think this meets the leak requirements

rain cedar Mar 27, 2018, 7:47 AM

#

Dark?

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 7:48 AM

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sly & nailmaster

rain cedar Mar 27, 2018, 7:48 AM

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Dude that's like straight up orange

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 7:48 AM

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Good on the eyes

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Looks less orange irl

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 7:48 AM

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i had that

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got annoyed w/ it and never turned it back on

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on mobile

rain cedar Mar 27, 2018, 7:49 AM

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That's me with f.lux

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I put it on my computer

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It turned everything orange

#

Uninstalled

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 7:49 AM

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on my pc w/ flux & redshift
made my ide look like garbage

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 7:49 AM

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Just gotta tweak the settings

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 7:49 AM

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uninstalled

#

so sly and nailmaster

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for G&G bosses

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 7:50 AM

#

There was also like GG_Mawlek

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And others

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 7:50 AM

#

yeah

#

like every boss

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 7:50 AM

#

Maybe boss rush?

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 7:50 AM

#

wow double leak

#

2 bosses

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and mode

#

leak 3

📎 unknown.png

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 7:51 AM

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mylajoy

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nailsmith

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 7:51 AM

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rip

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nailsmith

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 7:52 AM

#

I wonder if you save him and get a bonus boss out of it now

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 7:52 AM

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tfw my nap alarm from yesterday is ringing

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 7:52 AM

#

Sigh, need to sleep

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 7:52 AM

#

i probably should

#

because 4 am

#

but also

#

l e a k s

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 7:53 AM

#

It's exciting

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 7:53 AM

#

all the other GG_S stuff

#

seems to be boss names

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 7:53 AM

#

Man mush sleep so he can explore more

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 7:53 AM

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hornet, BIGBEE (hive knight?), fknight, lobsterlancer, broken vessel

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 7:53 AM

#

I wonder if their prefabs are hiding in the game somewhere

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 7:53 AM

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that'd actually be amazing

#

early peek at the bosses

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 7:54 AM

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I wouldn't post it if I found it, but it would be cool

#

Gotta save some surprises. I might try one out tho

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 7:55 AM

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yeah

#

GG is def gods & glory stuff

#

📎 unknown.png

#

and the gg stuff is all bosses

#

so i think the bosses are nailpaint, sly, nailmaster

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and mode might be bossrush

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 7:56 AM

#

It fits

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 7:56 AM

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they're all just said to be

#

terrifying beasts

#

I think verulean found the same thing

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 7:57 AM

#

hollowb

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 7:57 AM

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w/ some xml

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thing

#

yeah he did

#

he posted part of an xml thingy

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w/ GG_S_FLUKEMUM

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 7:57 AM

#

Mum

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 7:57 AM

#

idk if he just didn't see the 3 new boss things

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 7:57 AM

#

Hehe

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 7:57 AM

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or if he didn't want to leak

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 7:58 AM

#

Likely all this stuff is still in development and not final yet

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 7:58 AM

#

does this mean not march anymore

📎 unknown.png

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 7:59 AM

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I think that's the lifeblood thing

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 7:59 AM

#

alongside its console debut

#

s w i t c h

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 8:00 AM

#

Well the switch stuff is in this one

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 8:00 AM

#

yeah

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 8:00 AM

#

And looks pretty fleshed out

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 8:01 AM

#

yeah definitely

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 8:01 AM

#

Ok. Time to try to sleep for reals

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 8:01 AM

#

elderbug

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 8:01 AM

#

Then tomorrow I go digging through them thar assets fur buries treasures

#

Yarr

#

zote

#

Nite

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 8:02 AM

#

gn

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 8:02 AM

#

Ty for posting stuff

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 8:02 AM

#

yw

#

relevant gods and glory lines:

<entry name="GG_S_NAILMASTER">A terrifying beast.</entry>
<entry name="GG_S_SLY">A terrifying beast.</entry>
<entry name="GG_S_NAILPAINT">A terrifying beast.</entry>
<entry name="UI_MENU_STYLE_GG">Gods &amp; Glory</entry>

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and the other GG_S stuff being bosses

rain cedar Mar 27, 2018, 8:04 AM

#

Can't wait to see how paint is a terrifying beast

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 8:04 AM

#

lol

#

oh found something else

#

<entry name="UI_MENU_EXTRA_GG_DESC">FREE CONTENT PACK 03&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;ORIGINAL RELEASE DATE: Early 2018&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;DESCRIPTION: Take your place amongst the Gods in an epic celebration of Hallownest&#39;s Glory and the final chapter of the Knight&#39;s journey.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;New Character and Quest - The Godseeker arrives. Break her chains and aid her in an ancient duty.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;New Boss Fights - Hallownest&#39;s greatest warriors raise their blades.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;New Game Mode - Long requested and a classic for the genre. Complete the Godseeker&#39;s quest to unlock the new mode.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;New Music - All new soaring boss tracks and giant remixes of beloved classics.</entry>

#

i think verulean already posted this

#

tho

#

yeah he did

rain cedar Mar 27, 2018, 8:09 AM

#

Not really anything new there but still cool

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 8:09 AM

#

yeah

#

all the GG lines

📎 unknown.png

#

from one section

#

the other sections are just the same thing but in different languages

leaden hedge Mar 27, 2018, 8:59 AM

#

hmmmmm

#

thats a weird subset of enemies

exotic venture Mar 27, 2018, 9:02 AM

#

i am afraid

📎 unknown.png

hazy sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 11:26 AM

#

wow it's almost like I went through the xml and listed all GG_S bosses in #hk-discussion 2 days ago

jaunty mural Mar 27, 2018, 11:31 AM

#

im having problems
whenever i install the Blackmoth mod that game won't even open
it gives an error message

hollow pier Mar 27, 2018, 11:32 AM

#

install the opening game mod

jaunty mural Mar 27, 2018, 11:32 AM

#

?

#

what?

#

nvm, the crossroads thing helped me

fringe schooner Mar 27, 2018, 12:25 PM

#

um, which one of the modding api files is the one youre supposed to install?

young walrus Mar 27, 2018, 12:26 PM

#

Depends

#

What patch do you have, what OS, what game version

fringe schooner Mar 27, 2018, 12:26 PM

#

im using current patch

young walrus Mar 27, 2018, 12:26 PM

#

1.2.2.1

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That's current patch

#

Says so on title screen

fringe schooner Mar 27, 2018, 12:27 PM

#

but theres 4 that are named 1.2.2.1

young walrus Mar 27, 2018, 12:27 PM

#

Yeah

#

So what os

#

Windows, mac.....

#

And what version

fringe schooner Mar 27, 2018, 12:27 PM

#

windows 10

young walrus Mar 27, 2018, 12:28 PM

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Steam, gog

fringe schooner Mar 27, 2018, 12:28 PM

#

steam

young walrus Mar 27, 2018, 12:28 PM

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So get the one labeled as such

fringe schooner Mar 27, 2018, 12:28 PM

#

ok

#

thx 😄

solemn rivet Mar 27, 2018, 12:57 PM

#

noot

#

Ok then

dire charm Mar 27, 2018, 1:22 PM

#

may i ask how to change graphics in game ><

solemn rivet Mar 27, 2018, 2:26 PM

#

which graphics?

jaunty mural Mar 27, 2018, 2:29 PM

#

hey, you are the creator of Blackmoth right?
did you change text for abilities and charms or something?

solemn rivet Mar 27, 2018, 2:39 PM

#

I had, in previous versions

#

but I'm not entirely clear on how to do that with the API

#

so...

jaunty mural Mar 27, 2018, 2:40 PM

#

ah, since so far charms seem to be the same and i do not have the custom title screen

#

cuz i have longnail and i don't think that should be a part of the mod

solemn rivet Mar 27, 2018, 2:44 PM

#

it is, it just doesn't work as longnail, and, instead, works as longdash

jaunty mural Mar 27, 2018, 2:45 PM

#

ah

#

not knowing the specifis of what charms do sure can be tough

#

also, it seems that fury of the fallen makes you take 2 masks of damage while normal and 1 while overcharmed, is this on purpose?

#

but overall i like the idea for the mod, really interesting(and it makes false knight/failed champion a bitch to fight since they have large hitboxes so you can end up dashing inside them)

solemn rivet Mar 27, 2018, 2:49 PM

#

wait - which version are you playing on?

#

that FOTF thing was removed ages ago

jaunty mural Mar 27, 2018, 2:50 PM

#

i use the one that is installed through the Crossroads installer thing

#

i just saw a vid of someone playing the mod and that was in the comments

solemn rivet Mar 27, 2018, 2:51 PM

#

can you show me a screenshot of the title screen?

jaunty mural Mar 27, 2018, 2:51 PM

#

mine or in the vid?

solemn rivet Mar 27, 2018, 2:51 PM

#

yours

jaunty mural Mar 27, 2018, 2:51 PM

#

mine is just the normal HK title screen

solemn rivet Mar 27, 2018, 2:51 PM

#

nothing on top-left?

jaunty mural Mar 27, 2018, 2:52 PM

#

on top left it writes the version of the API and Blackmoth

#

i think it was something like 1.5.1?

solemn rivet Mar 27, 2018, 2:52 PM

#

oh

#

that's... Weird

#

are you positive about that fotf thing?

jaunty mural Mar 27, 2018, 2:52 PM

#

im checking now

#

i hacen't tested it

#

will do now

solemn rivet Mar 27, 2018, 2:52 PM

#

that was a feature on older versions

#

I added that because I was just trying out random stuff

jaunty mural Mar 27, 2018, 2:53 PM

#

yeah, Blackmoth: 1.5.1

solemn rivet Mar 27, 2018, 2:53 PM

#

yeah, crossroads is up-to-date

jaunty mural Mar 27, 2018, 2:54 PM

#

will Blackmoth work with Bonfire?

solemn rivet Mar 27, 2018, 2:54 PM

#

it won't break

hazy sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 2:54 PM

#

it will break

#

the game

solemn rivet Mar 27, 2018, 2:54 PM

#

but DEX and STR won't work

#

not necessarily, veru

#

specially using blackmoth

#

since you can't make 1milion dashes per second

jaunty mural Mar 27, 2018, 2:55 PM

#

alright, so FOTF does not reverse overcharm

solemn rivet Mar 27, 2018, 2:55 PM

#

and have 999k damage

#

oh, okay! Thanks for checking!

jaunty mural Mar 27, 2018, 2:56 PM

#

but the charms still look the same including text

solemn rivet Mar 27, 2018, 2:56 PM

#

yeah

#

like I said, I have no means of changing that rn

jaunty mural Mar 27, 2018, 2:56 PM

#

that blows,
is there a text file with all the charm changes?

#

as like, a reference sheet?

solemn rivet Mar 27, 2018, 2:56 PM

#

readme should have them all

jaunty mural Mar 27, 2018, 2:57 PM

#

kk cool, thanks

#

also the vid where i saw the FOTF is Verulean's vid of the mod :3

hazy sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 2:58 PM

#

wait what video

#

what

jaunty mural Mar 27, 2018, 2:58 PM

#

i think?

solemn rivet Mar 27, 2018, 2:58 PM

#

thanks for the free marketing veru

jaunty mural Mar 27, 2018, 2:58 PM

#

i may be mistaken in the creator

hazy sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 2:58 PM

#

I've never installed blackmoth tbh

jaunty mural Mar 27, 2018, 2:58 PM

#

oh wait

#

no

#

im dumb, yeah, it's not Verulean's

#

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NztSp1_ipjE

YouTube

Xenon

Hollow Knight: Blackmoth Part 1

Part one of the Hollow Knight Blackmoth mod streams! -- Watch live at https://www.twitch.tv/dark_xenon2

▶ Play video

#

this vid

solemn rivet Mar 27, 2018, 3:00 PM

#

oh, that guy

hazy sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 3:00 PM

#

dark xenon more like

#

dead

#

last message almost 2 months ago

jaunty mural Mar 27, 2018, 3:01 PM

#

look at that guy's hitbox, with base range you need to be just on the edge of his hitbox in order to not dash into him

hazy sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 3:01 PM

#

use nail ez

#

it's like hell mod but cooler

jaunty mural Mar 27, 2018, 3:02 PM

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what's hellmod?

hazy sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 3:02 PM

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very fun mod

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intenseface

jaunty mural Mar 27, 2018, 3:02 PM

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but in blackmoth nail deals 1 damage

solemn rivet Mar 27, 2018, 3:02 PM

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= hell mod

jaunty mural Mar 27, 2018, 3:02 PM

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what does hell mod do?

solemn rivet Mar 27, 2018, 3:02 PM

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and a few other things

hazy sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 3:02 PM

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nail damage divided by 2.4 or something

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double damage taken

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soul meter only goes up to 1 spell cast

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soul collection rate halved

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 3:03 PM

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20% enemy hp boost

hazy sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 3:03 PM

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healing set to deep focus speed by default

jaunty mural Mar 27, 2018, 3:03 PM

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omg no, hell mod is not for me

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i suck at the game

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 3:03 PM

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deep focus multiplier increased by 120%

solemn rivet Mar 27, 2018, 3:03 PM

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shhh that's a secret

hazy sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 3:03 PM

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hell mod is for 🅱oolin ass ni🅱🅱as

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like 56 lost kin stream

solemn rivet Mar 27, 2018, 3:04 PM

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didn't have to delete it, but ok

jaunty mural Mar 27, 2018, 3:04 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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alright

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the mothwing cloak ability

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is cool

solemn rivet Mar 27, 2018, 3:04 PM

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that's Seanpr's

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 3:04 PM

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Celeste

solemn rivet Mar 27, 2018, 3:05 PM

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yup

jaunty mural Mar 27, 2018, 3:06 PM

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also i seem to gain incredibly high amounts of soul when dashing through Gorms

solemn rivet Mar 27, 2018, 3:06 PM

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Gorm?

jaunty mural Mar 27, 2018, 3:06 PM

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couple that with Soul Catcher and i can get almost full soul meter in a single dash

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wait

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Goams*

hazy sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 3:07 PM

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Gorbs

solemn rivet Mar 27, 2018, 3:07 PM

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Blackmoth is better with enemy rando tbh

hazy sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 3:07 PM

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nice rectangle

solemn rivet Mar 27, 2018, 3:07 PM

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^

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one of the best

jaunty mural Mar 27, 2018, 3:07 PM

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dammit why won't it work

solemn rivet Mar 27, 2018, 3:07 PM

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no, dis better

jaunty mural Mar 27, 2018, 3:08 PM

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http://hollowknight.wikia.com/wiki/Goam

Hollow Knight Wiki

Goam

It emerges from its hole quickly and then immediately rushes back in. It cannot be damaged or killed. LOCATION IMAGES MISSING

hazy sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 3:08 PM

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📎 1200px-Rectangle_Geometry_Vector.png

jaunty mural Mar 27, 2018, 3:08 PM

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GIF no want to work, just click the link

solemn rivet Mar 27, 2018, 3:08 PM

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oh, those guys

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weird

hazy sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 3:08 PM

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📎 dead.gif

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wow it works

solemn rivet Mar 27, 2018, 3:08 PM

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so it seems they had health_managers in the past versions

jaunty mural Mar 27, 2018, 3:09 PM

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*also can gain soul by dashing into the big baldur when he is rolled up in his shell

solemn rivet Mar 27, 2018, 3:09 PM

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they don't have healthManager in the new public beta, so you won't get soul from them anymore

jaunty mural Mar 27, 2018, 3:09 PM

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but i do gain soul

solemn rivet Mar 27, 2018, 3:10 PM

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because you're not playing in the public beta

hazy sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 3:10 PM

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they don't hive healthManager in bee new public beeta, so you won't get soul from them anymore

jaunty mural Mar 27, 2018, 3:10 PM

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ah

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i don't have the game from steam

solemn rivet Mar 27, 2018, 3:10 PM

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gog?

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 3:10 PM

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humble?

jaunty mural Mar 27, 2018, 3:10 PM

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GOG?

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mine be pirated 😦

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 3:11 PM

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wtf

solemn rivet Mar 27, 2018, 3:11 PM

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you made a monster, Kerr

pearl sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 3:11 PM

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grimm

hazy sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 3:11 PM

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piracy is instant ban imho

jaunty mural Mar 27, 2018, 3:11 PM

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i no have money to buy the game

hazy sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 3:11 PM

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<@&328354344313421825> dust this fool

jaunty mural Mar 27, 2018, 3:11 PM

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;-;

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i deserve it honestly

solemn rivet Mar 27, 2018, 3:12 PM

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he accepted his fate

jaunty mural Mar 27, 2018, 3:12 PM

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if i could i would honestly buy it

hazy sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 3:12 PM

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yo just save 1 cent a day

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3-5 years and you're good

jaunty mural Mar 27, 2018, 3:13 PM

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my parents won't buy me games

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cuz im too much on the pc anyways so they don't want to give me more reason to do it

buoyant obsidian Mar 27, 2018, 3:14 PM

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Go outside

jaunty mural Mar 27, 2018, 3:14 PM

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but outside is boriiing

buoyant wasp Mar 27, 2018, 3:17 PM

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well, in any case

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we aren't going to help you

jaunty mural Mar 27, 2018, 3:18 PM

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ya ya, i understand

buoyant wasp Mar 27, 2018, 3:18 PM

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we take an exceptionally dim view of folks pirating this game

dire charm Mar 27, 2018, 3:18 PM

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@solemn rivet i want to change color of spore shroom and defender's crest (their effect ) , but i don't know how to do , just want to change their color to white

buoyant wasp Mar 27, 2018, 3:18 PM

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considering how cheap it is

jaunty mural Mar 27, 2018, 3:18 PM

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im gonna try to see if my parents will let me buy it later when they come home

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hopefully they'll agree this time

hazy sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 3:18 PM

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probably just edit sprites to white

jaunty mural Mar 27, 2018, 3:19 PM

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until then cy'all

buoyant wasp Mar 27, 2018, 3:19 PM

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@dire charm - It might sound easy, but you're talking about changing particle effects. It isn't like there is a line somewhere that says "it's orange". You'll have to change the sprite sheets probably and possibly other stuff

buoyant obsidian Mar 27, 2018, 3:19 PM

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https://www.humblebundle.com/store/hollow-knight?partner=eastsidelag

Humble Bundle

Buy Hollow Knight from the Humble Store

Brave the Depths of a Forgotten KingdomBeneath the fading town of Dirtmouth sleeps an ancient, ruined kingdom. Many are drawn below the surface, searching for riches, or glory, or answers to old secrets.Hollow Knight is a classically styled 2D ac...

solemn rivet Mar 27, 2018, 3:19 PM

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there's a nifty spriteflash class that deals with those things

buoyant obsidian Mar 27, 2018, 3:19 PM

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@Crys#3737 don't forget to use that link

solemn rivet Mar 27, 2018, 3:20 PM

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dunno if it's exactly what you want tho

buoyant obsidian Mar 27, 2018, 3:20 PM

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oh he's gone

hazy sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 3:20 PM

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oof

solemn rivet Mar 27, 2018, 3:20 PM

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also, @buoyant obsidian has experience with recoloring stuff in his mods

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he might be able to help you, alex

hazy sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 3:20 PM

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donate to his patreon to learn his secrets

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premium modding course for $5 a month

buoyant obsidian Mar 27, 2018, 3:21 PM

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Spore shroom might be hard since it probably uses Shuriken

vale zenith Mar 27, 2018, 3:22 PM

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Why the heck was I pinged here

hazy sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 3:22 PM

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meme

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sorry for bothering you

dire charm Mar 27, 2018, 3:23 PM

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then where can i get those sprite sheets? 0.0 , and what is "Shuriken"

vale zenith Mar 27, 2018, 3:23 PM

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I'll go back to sleep

buoyant obsidian Mar 27, 2018, 3:25 PM

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Shuriken is Unity's particle system maker

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basically means that spore shroom might not be texture dependent so much as it is shader dependent

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 3:26 PM

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wtf this is the first time I've seen firzen

hazy sentinel Mar 27, 2018, 3:26 PM

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e

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 3:26 PM

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shit

dire charm Mar 27, 2018, 3:27 PM

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then where can i find the texture of Defender's Crest effect? (or it is shader dependent too?

buoyant obsidian Mar 27, 2018, 3:28 PM

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I wouldn't know, you might have to do a bit of searching

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Just don't spend too long looking for a texture to change since it might not be possible that way

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I'd advise opening Unity Studio and searching for keywords like shroom or spore

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etc

dire charm Mar 27, 2018, 3:30 PM

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alright , thank for help , gonna tried to find out where it is ><

regal steppe Mar 27, 2018, 3:45 PM

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Are there no Dream Warriors in Boss Rush mode?

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 3:47 PM

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yes

solemn rivet Mar 27, 2018, 3:56 PM

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no

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and somehow, we're both right

buoyant wasp Mar 27, 2018, 4:04 PM

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The dream fights are in boss rush, the warriors are not.

jaunty mural Mar 27, 2018, 5:12 PM

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im back! with an official baught copy of HK

fair rampart Mar 27, 2018, 5:13 PM

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Nice

hollow pier Mar 27, 2018, 5:13 PM

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wow pirates

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 5:20 PM

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nice

vagrant leaf Mar 27, 2018, 5:56 PM

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good job ur a good boye now

jaunty mural Mar 27, 2018, 5:57 PM

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yee

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 6:42 PM

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📎 unknown.png

jaunty mural Mar 27, 2018, 6:49 PM

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kek

rain cedar Mar 27, 2018, 9:58 PM

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I've discovered a new layer of hell

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The overlay when grabbing an item consists of 8 game objects

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Which all have an FSM to be controlled by

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It's really quite amazing how deep this goes

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You could replace like 10 FSMs here with one coroutine

timber gale Mar 27, 2018, 10:00 PM

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That's just to pick up like, a charm?

rain cedar Mar 27, 2018, 10:00 PM

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The charm tutorial and bottom left thing probably work similarly

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I'm just talking about the overlay when you grab important items

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Like dash and claw

timber gale Mar 27, 2018, 10:01 PM

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Ah ok

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You're working on debug i assume?

rain cedar Mar 27, 2018, 10:01 PM

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Nah

timber gale Mar 27, 2018, 10:02 PM

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What made me super confused at one point was that if you set nail damage to zero you get no soul

rain cedar Mar 27, 2018, 10:02 PM

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They changed a lot about how enemies/damage works

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Might be different now

timber gale Mar 27, 2018, 10:02 PM

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I wanted to do a "summons only" run and have a 0 damage nail to get soul, but I couldn't

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That's good, I'll check it out at one point

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Maybe my meme run will be a success

leaden hedge Mar 27, 2018, 10:03 PM

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I mean you could have done that before

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there was a hook for whenever enemies would take damage

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with the amount of damage they'd take

timber gale Mar 27, 2018, 10:04 PM

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I was just using debug to set my nail damage

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I'm nowhere near skilled enough to actually mess around with the game code

copper nacelle Mar 27, 2018, 10:05 PM

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are you sure

leaden hedge Mar 27, 2018, 10:06 PM

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TC messed with the game code, so I'd give yourself more credit

solemn rivet Mar 27, 2018, 10:19 PM

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Brutal

weary oyster Mar 27, 2018, 11:24 PM

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yo, is it possible to implement into the debug mod a button to respawn enemies that dont respawn on screen transition?

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stuff like mantis warriors

fair rampart Mar 27, 2018, 11:25 PM

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Probably

weary oyster Mar 27, 2018, 11:25 PM

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it would be very useful for practicing certain sections

fair rampart Mar 27, 2018, 11:26 PM

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You could setup dream gate there

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And keep teleporting to respawn them

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They respawn upon dream gating iirc, if that doesnt work you can save-quit and dream gate back there

weary oyster Mar 27, 2018, 11:28 PM

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they dont respawn on dream gate, and yes s&q is what ive been doing but its very slow compared to pressing one button

solemn rivet Mar 28, 2018, 3:14 AM

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You could probably make your own mod for that

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Shouldn't be hard tbh

pearl sentinel Mar 28, 2018, 4:15 AM

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patch has a couple changes to the "BuildEquippedCharms" class

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small things but maybe they mean something (i haven't played with charms much yet)

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    private void Start()
    {
        this.nextDot = base.transform.Find("Next Dot").gameObject;
    }
<---
--->
    private void Start()
    {
    }

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        this.nextDot = base.transform.Find("Next Dot").gameObject;
        this.charmsFolder = base.transform.Find("Charms").gameObject;
        this.pd = PlayerData.instance;
<---
--->
        if (this.pd == null)
        {
            this.pd = PlayerData.instance;
        }

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(old is top part)

rain cedar Mar 28, 2018, 4:17 AM

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Charms folder sounds promising

copper nacelle Mar 28, 2018, 4:18 AM

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so like

pearl sentinel Mar 28, 2018, 4:18 AM

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looks like support for fire was added to to Corpse.cs

copper nacelle Mar 28, 2018, 4:18 AM

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    private void Start()
    {
        this.nextDot = base.transform.Find("Next Dot").gameObject;
+         this.charmsFolder = base.transform.Find("Charms").gameObject;
+         this.pd = PlayerData.instance;
    }
<---
--->
    private void Start()
    {
    }

pearl sentinel Mar 28, 2018, 4:18 AM

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    private IEnumerator DisableFlame()
    {
        yield return new WaitForSeconds(5f);
        if (this.corpseFlame)
        {
            this.corpseFlame.Stop();
        }
        yield break;
    }

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geo control updated slightly

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the "Getter()" coroutine

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i think float was fixed

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                this.cState.touchingWall = true;
and

                    this.touchingWallR = true; (and L)

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was added to hero controller

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along with this line

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    private bool CanDash()
    {
        return this.hero_state != ActorStates.no_input && this.hero_state != ActorStates.hard_landing && this.hero_state != ActorStates.dash_landing && this.dashCooldownTimer <= 0f && !this.cState.dashing && !this.cState.backDashing && (!this.cState.attacking || this.attack_time >= this.ATTACK_RECOVERY_TIME) && !this.cState.preventDash && (this.cState.onGround || !this.airDashed || this.cState.wallSliding) && !this.cState.hazardDeath && this.playerData.canDash;
    }

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(well, that line was updated)

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which i think had something to do with how you guys were saying you could still float

copper nacelle Mar 28, 2018, 4:22 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/283467985224466442/427166980718460948/badmeme.jpg

pearl sentinel Mar 28, 2018, 4:23 AM

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some fixes to map markers

rain cedar Mar 28, 2018, 4:23 AM

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I just loaded up the game and did float

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The map didn't actually show up which is different

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But the glitch worked

pearl sentinel Mar 28, 2018, 4:24 AM

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hah

rain cedar Mar 28, 2018, 4:24 AM

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I can't get it again

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Maybe it's just more precise

pearl sentinel Mar 28, 2018, 4:24 AM

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this was added to "AddMPCharge"


    public void AddMPCharge(int amount)
    {
        if (this.soulLimited && this.maxMP != 66)
        {
            this.maxMP = 66;
        }
        if (!this.soulLimited && this.maxMP != 99)
        {
            this.maxMP = 99;
        }

in PlayerData

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and this

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this.charmCost_36 = 5;

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i think that was kingsoul

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(it was 0 previously)

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some changes to RuinsLift.cs, maybe fixing a glitch?

rain cedar Mar 28, 2018, 4:26 AM

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Could be

pearl sentinel Mar 28, 2018, 4:26 AM

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several try/catches added around places

rain cedar Mar 28, 2018, 4:27 AM

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LUL

pearl sentinel Mar 28, 2018, 4:27 AM

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they took this out of the version creator

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            BuildMetadata embedded = BuildMetadata.Embedded;
            if (embedded != null)
            {
                string text2 = text;
                text = string.Concat(new string[]
                {
                    text2,
                    " r",
                    embedded.Revision,
                    " (",
                    embedded.BranchName,
                    ")"
                });
            }

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and a few other tiny changes

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alright, back to bed for me

copper nacelle Mar 28, 2018, 4:30 AM

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elderbug

pearl sentinel Mar 28, 2018, 4:33 AM

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elderbug

quiet heart Mar 28, 2018, 4:52 AM

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@pearl sentinel
what thing?

copper nacelle Mar 28, 2018, 5:58 AM

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the AddMPCharge thing

jaunty mural Mar 28, 2018, 7:04 AM

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anybody knows why Crossroads doesn't work for me?
im selecting my HK folder through my steam but it doesn't move on to the mods installing page, it's stuck on the "select HK directory" screen no matter how many times i select it

young walrus Mar 28, 2018, 7:07 AM

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did you extract it first?

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or are you trying to run the crossroads installer in the temp folder

jaunty mural Mar 28, 2018, 7:07 AM

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i extracted the Crossroads to my desktop

rain cedar Mar 28, 2018, 7:43 AM

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Think I'm gonna stop working on the item pickup thing

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After messing around on today's update for a while I'm pretty sure I'm never going to play on the new patch more than just to see the new bosses, anyway

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No point

jaunty mural Mar 28, 2018, 8:41 AM

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this is the screen that Crossroads is stuck on

📎 unknown.png

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nvm, reinstalled Crossroads, works again

pearl sentinel Mar 28, 2018, 1:45 PM

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Whenever you stop by again seanpr, if you're done with the item stuff, may I have it?

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(Don't wanna @ him at this hour)

solemn rivet Mar 28, 2018, 1:48 PM

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@jaunty mural if crossroad's not working for you, you can also try my modloader

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it's simpler, but should work

jaunty mural Mar 28, 2018, 1:49 PM

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it works now, i just reinstalled it

solemn rivet Mar 28, 2018, 1:50 PM

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hollowknice

pearl sentinel Mar 28, 2018, 1:55 PM

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So now that enemy randomizing is going to be much better, I want to finish refactoring into the new logic and then do a cleanup to a state where it should be easy for others to help with development. I have a project trello board for us to use as well, so keeping track of tasks should be easy. Would anyone be interested in helping with it?

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If you wanted to help in small ways, examples of small tasks would be like: "Crawler spawns inside the floor a bit every time, needs adjustment added" So you would go into the "PositionRandomizerEnemy" hook and add a condition for crawler to be outside the wall a bit (there's a few adjustments in there already as examples. messy right now, but that's what my cleanup will be for)

solemn rivet Mar 28, 2018, 2:23 PM

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how can I use the language hook to change charm descriptions?

pearl sentinel Mar 28, 2018, 2:23 PM

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haven't look into that

solemn rivet Mar 28, 2018, 2:24 PM

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I'm not entirely familiar how that works

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was there an update to the public beta? The modded assembly isn't working for me anymore

pearl sentinel Mar 28, 2018, 2:25 PM

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yeah

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going to remake it this morning

solemn rivet Mar 28, 2018, 2:25 PM

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oh

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when I was trying to make the api there were some issues with GameManager.Next scene - apparently it doesn't exist anymore

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should I just ignore that?

pearl sentinel Mar 28, 2018, 2:27 PM

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give me a bit to get setup

solemn rivet Mar 28, 2018, 2:27 PM

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oh, sorry

young walrus Mar 28, 2018, 2:28 PM

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sean was mentioning something like that

solemn rivet Mar 28, 2018, 2:28 PM

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I built a version simply removing those hooks, and it didn't seem to break

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gimme a sec to try it in this version

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k, it works

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it has a new hook, but it should work

📎 Managed.zip

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tried with blackmoth

copper nacelle Mar 28, 2018, 2:45 PM

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hollowknice

solemn rivet Mar 28, 2018, 2:46 PM

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I simply removed the nextscene stuffs that didn't work, so stuff might break

copper nacelle Mar 28, 2018, 2:49 PM

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i did that on the earlier version

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it mostly worked

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except I couldn't quit out of the game

solemn rivet Mar 28, 2018, 2:49 PM

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eh

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alt+f4

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ggez

pearl sentinel Mar 28, 2018, 2:53 PM

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📎 modded_assembly.zip

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there's my new modded assembly

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not perfect but it loads enemy rando

solemn rivet Mar 28, 2018, 2:59 PM

#

        internal bool OnDashPressed()
        {
            Logger.LogFine("[API] - OnDashPressed Invoked");

            if (_DashPressedHook == null) return false;

            bool ret = true;

            Delegate[] invocationList = _DashPressedHook.GetInvocationList();
            foreach (Delegate toInvoke in invocationList)
            {
                try
                {
                    ret = (bool)toInvoke.DynamicInvoke();
                }
                catch (Exception ex)
                {
                    Logger.LogError("[API] - " + ex);
                }
            }

            return ret;
        }```

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can anyone guess why I'm getting a nre everytime that hook is used?

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that's not blackmoth specific either, celeste mod did the same thing

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  at Modding.ModHooks.OnDashPressed () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 ```

pearl sentinel Mar 28, 2018, 3:08 PM

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is the Get returning null?

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seems like the only thing that it could possibly be in there

solemn rivet Mar 28, 2018, 3:09 PM

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I'll just run a quick check to see if it's the hook's fault

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because celeste and blackmoth do similar things when that hook is called, so maybe it's something in the code

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yeah, it's the hook that's misbehaving

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I hooked an empty method to OnDashPressedHook and still got nres whenever I press dash

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my guess is that the invoke list is somehow null

copper nacelle Mar 28, 2018, 3:21 PM

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for the language get hook and charm descriptions

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there are keys and sheet titles

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i think you'd just have a switch case w/ the keys

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for cases like CHARM_DESC_4

shell dew Mar 28, 2018, 3:29 PM

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wait so .dll files are supposed to go where again?

copper nacelle Mar 28, 2018, 3:29 PM

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you need the api

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easy to install using gradow or kerr's

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then you put the mod in the Mods folder

shell dew Mar 28, 2018, 3:30 PM

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Wait can i mod in public beta?

copper nacelle Mar 28, 2018, 3:30 PM

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yes

shell dew Mar 28, 2018, 3:30 PM

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cuz its all 1.2.2.1

copper nacelle Mar 28, 2018, 3:30 PM

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kerr and gradow just gave api copies

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just replace your assembly w/ one of their assemblies

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(the Assembly-Csharp.dll in managed folder)

shell dew Mar 28, 2018, 3:31 PM

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yeah i got that

copper nacelle Mar 28, 2018, 3:32 PM

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after you do that then make a mods folder in the managed folder

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and put the mod in there

shell dew Mar 28, 2018, 3:33 PM

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Wait sorry im terrible at this the Assembly should be in the HK data file right

copper nacelle Mar 28, 2018, 3:33 PM

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assembly replaces old assembly

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the old assembly is in hollow_knight_Data\Managed

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on windows

shell dew Mar 28, 2018, 3:34 PM

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ah

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And the UrMumGay as well or??

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Where that supposed to go

copper nacelle Mar 28, 2018, 3:35 PM

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make a folder called Mods in the Managed folder

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and put it there

shell dew Mar 28, 2018, 3:35 PM

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Lmao i already a mod folder

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Already installed Nightmare God Grimm

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thanks for the help elderbug

copper nacelle Mar 28, 2018, 3:36 PM

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yw

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elderbug

jaunty mural Mar 28, 2018, 3:40 PM

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so Blackmoth works with the public beta?

shell dew Mar 28, 2018, 3:41 PM

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I saw the mod, what is it exactly?

jaunty mural Mar 28, 2018, 3:42 PM

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the basics of the mod:
remember the nail? the trusty weapon that carried you through the entire game?
well, fuck it. welcome to the world of killing shit through dashes

shell dew Mar 28, 2018, 3:42 PM

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NOPE

copper nacelle Mar 28, 2018, 3:42 PM

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but it's cool

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you dash faster

shell dew Mar 28, 2018, 3:42 PM

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NOO

copper nacelle Mar 28, 2018, 3:42 PM

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8 directional dash

shell dew Mar 28, 2018, 3:42 PM

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Omg that sounds horrible

copper nacelle Mar 28, 2018, 3:42 PM

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a hidden feature I can't reveal

shell dew Mar 28, 2018, 3:42 PM

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not in a bad way

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sounds horrible like i cant imagine the pain u have to go through

jaunty mural Mar 28, 2018, 3:43 PM

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you start with dash

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by default your dash limit is almost non existant