#archived-modding-development | Hollow Knight | Page 67

pearl sentinel Mar 16, 2018, 4:47 AM

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Oh and if it still softlocks you can noclip out and restart it or w/e

rustic stag Mar 16, 2018, 6:03 PM

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Does anybody know how to create your own hook?
Having some trouble here.

copper nacelle Mar 16, 2018, 6:31 PM

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add one, create a pull request

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iirc there's some event thing

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that you add

rustic stag Mar 16, 2018, 6:47 PM

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Yeah Gradow showed me what to do. Also, I don't use Github much. But I think I know what you mean.

rustic stag Mar 16, 2018, 7:02 PM

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On second thought, no idea what to do. I just want to get the hook I made added to the API. Do I need someone to give me permissions to the repository?

exotic venture Mar 16, 2018, 7:04 PM

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nah you make a fork and you merge changes

rain cedar Mar 16, 2018, 7:04 PM

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This button

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pearl sentinel Mar 16, 2018, 7:04 PM

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i love source control

solemn rivet Mar 16, 2018, 7:05 PM

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^

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https://github.com/seanpr96/HollowKnight.Modding/blob/master/Assembly-CSharp/ModHooks.cs

GitHub

seanpr96/HollowKnight.Modding

Contribute to HollowKnight.Modding development by creating an account on GitHub.

rustic stag Mar 16, 2018, 7:27 PM

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Okay, so if I did everything right, I just wait for my commit to be merged?

pearl sentinel Mar 16, 2018, 7:31 PM

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So watching graig's vod of the randomizer stream, he hit this weird bug that causes your jump to stall out. I thought it was caused by something in my mod, but apparently it's an issue with the base game that is fixed in the remaster happygrub

rain cedar Mar 16, 2018, 7:33 PM

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Yeah every speedrunner knows the frustration of that

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It's when other shit touches the ceiling

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Or the walls

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Or anything, really

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And sometimes just when the game feels like it

hollow pier Mar 16, 2018, 7:36 PM

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pretty much every glitch is when the game feels like it

rustic stag Mar 16, 2018, 8:42 PM

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I just tried out my health hook, and it works! It's first thing I've ever made that didn't cause 15 errors when I compile the first time!

solemn rivet Mar 16, 2018, 9:12 PM

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gj!

copper nacelle Mar 16, 2018, 9:16 PM

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lmao

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nice

solemn rivet Mar 16, 2018, 9:19 PM

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so, this new hook gets called whenever you heal?

pearl sentinel Mar 16, 2018, 9:25 PM

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OH

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i figured out why the first crawler of the game is never randomized

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it has a totally unique name

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from all other crawlers

copper nacelle Mar 16, 2018, 9:25 PM

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wtf

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why tho

pearl sentinel Mar 16, 2018, 9:26 PM

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idk

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"Crawler Fixed"

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well, now it'll be randoed

solemn rivet Mar 16, 2018, 9:28 PM

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"Crawler Broken" is its name now

pearl sentinel Mar 16, 2018, 9:29 PM

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gonna try adding the blue health bugs into the logic somehow

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maybe i could make them drop from certian enemies

solemn rivet Mar 16, 2018, 9:33 PM

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imagine you hit the first blue cocoon, and then, boom!

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ZOTE

pearl sentinel Mar 16, 2018, 9:33 PM

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what a disappointment

exotic venture Mar 16, 2018, 9:33 PM

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ah shit i didn't order this

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get that rivalry achievement out of my face

pearl sentinel Mar 16, 2018, 9:34 PM

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actually i was thinking of randomizing the geo chunks a bit (big maybe here)

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so some could be blue health

exotic venture Mar 16, 2018, 9:36 PM

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that would be cool actually

buoyant wasp Mar 16, 2018, 10:00 PM

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@rustic stag - Just reviewed your pull request. Won't be accepting it as is, see the comments 😃

pearl sentinel Mar 17, 2018, 3:08 AM

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for posterity: fuck playmaker FSMs

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that is all

copper nacelle Mar 17, 2018, 3:15 AM

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^

charred parrot Mar 17, 2018, 3:59 AM

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hey guys

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where do they initialize RECOIL_DURATION?

young walrus Mar 17, 2018, 4:02 AM

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in an FSM somewhere probably

pearl sentinel Mar 17, 2018, 4:04 AM

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probably the recoil fsm

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oh @young walrus graig said that he heard one of the playtesters tried to do float on the new version of the game and couldn't

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(see his vod from last night if curious)

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just an fyi

young walrus Mar 17, 2018, 4:08 AM

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not surprised

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rip all things fun

pearl sentinel Mar 17, 2018, 4:10 AM

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just means you'll need to find new bugs teamcherry

young walrus Mar 17, 2018, 4:10 AM

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or a new game

pearl sentinel Mar 17, 2018, 4:11 AM

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sadgrub

thorn comet Mar 17, 2018, 5:03 AM

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or just downpatch?

leaden hedge Mar 17, 2018, 5:04 AM

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its alright at this rate cp3 will never come out anyway :^)

thorn comet Mar 17, 2018, 5:04 AM

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hollowface

pearl sentinel Mar 17, 2018, 5:04 AM

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what happens when everything goes wrong:

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https://puu.sh/zJnkE/c2d7de2e55.png

leaden hedge Mar 17, 2018, 5:05 AM

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looks correct to me

young walrus Mar 17, 2018, 5:07 AM

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in a perfect world, the igt works first patch, and we never have fsms so they don't go away from them and completely change the speed game a year in,

copper nacelle Mar 17, 2018, 7:57 AM

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@pearl sentinel

📎 toobigagain.zip

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that's modlog

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output log

📎 evenbigger.zip

pearl sentinel Mar 17, 2018, 7:58 AM

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Ty!

copper nacelle Mar 17, 2018, 7:58 AM

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tfw output log is 162 mb

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yw

pearl sentinel Mar 17, 2018, 7:58 AM

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Don't need output log

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Well, mostly

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If it's that big tho nvm prob

obtuse sequoia Mar 17, 2018, 2:02 PM

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what's an FSM and why do you all hate them so much?

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I googled it but there's lots of them

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like fecal sludge management

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so idk which one to read up on

hollow pier Mar 17, 2018, 2:05 PM

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thats the one

solemn rivet Mar 17, 2018, 2:29 PM

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you got it

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fsms are finite state machines

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basically flowcharts that tell the game what to do

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and it sucks big time

slate owl Mar 17, 2018, 2:31 PM

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The problem is that its hard to mod something using FSM.

solemn rivet Mar 17, 2018, 2:34 PM

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they are... Somewhat inaccessible

pearl sentinel Mar 17, 2018, 3:47 PM

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i mean, a normal FSM probably wouldn't be too bad

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the problem is that PlaymakerFSM is something that is stored in data and meant to be edited/modified in unity/in a tool

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so from the modding side where we just have code, that makes it a nightmare to mess with

buoyant wasp Mar 17, 2018, 7:31 PM

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using FSMs the way that Playmaker does is like using a rusty spoon as a toothpick

fair rampart Mar 18, 2018, 1:47 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/318739392787251202/423592687673933844/unknown.png We need a mod where every enemy becomes the spear guard

shadow stump Mar 18, 2018, 2:32 AM

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genuinely terrifying

glossy pelican Mar 18, 2018, 4:12 AM

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nah

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Primal Aspid!

fair rampart Mar 18, 2018, 4:18 AM

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Combine the abilities of lance sentry along with soul twister, crystal hunter, mantis petra and primal aspid into one enemy and make that the only enemy

glossy pelican Mar 18, 2018, 4:20 AM

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📎 423231990632808460.png

fair rampart Mar 18, 2018, 4:22 AM

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Yeah, like that

vagrant leaf Mar 18, 2018, 4:24 AM

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kerr said he might add the option to control which enemies can be rando'd in enemy randomizer

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so you can choose all the worst enemies

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or have only crawlids and vengeflies

fair rampart Mar 18, 2018, 4:26 AM

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Please yes

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Make it only traitor lords, gruz mothers and brooding mawleks

pearl sentinel Mar 18, 2018, 4:41 AM

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Might? I will definitely do that. The only reason I haven't yet is that I'm trying to add more enemies into the rando rotation. Hopefully crystal guardian will be working by the end of the weekend (fingers crossed)

amber vigil Mar 18, 2018, 6:38 AM

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https://github.com/Ayugradow/ModInstaller/releases/download/v4.0.0/ModInstaller.exe

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does anybody have a link to Gradows mod that actually workds

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works*

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as in the mod installer

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the one that is pinned

rain cedar Mar 18, 2018, 6:39 AM

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Use kerr's

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I think it's better

amber vigil Mar 18, 2018, 6:39 AM

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Is that Crossroads?

rain cedar Mar 18, 2018, 6:39 AM

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Yes

amber vigil Mar 18, 2018, 6:39 AM

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It isnt working for me

rain cedar Mar 18, 2018, 6:39 AM

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What's your system and game version?

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Also define not working

amber vigil Mar 18, 2018, 6:40 AM

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Win10 1.2.2.1

rain cedar Mar 18, 2018, 6:40 AM

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Steam?

amber vigil Mar 18, 2018, 6:40 AM

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I click apply, it doesnt install the mods I have checked

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steam

rain cedar Mar 18, 2018, 6:40 AM

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So no changes in your game?

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Are you installing the API as well?

amber vigil Mar 18, 2018, 6:41 AM

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Yes.

rain cedar Mar 18, 2018, 6:41 AM

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Check if there is a file called ModLog.txt by your save files

amber vigil Mar 18, 2018, 6:41 AM

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I check the boxes on Modding Api and Boss Rush then click apply. Then it says "Installing files for Modding API and never changes

rain cedar Mar 18, 2018, 6:42 AM

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Is your internet connection just extremely slow? Could be taking a while to download

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It is quite small, though

amber vigil Mar 18, 2018, 6:42 AM

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100MBps

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Down

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it isnt that

rain cedar Mar 18, 2018, 6:42 AM

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Alright that's no issue

amber vigil Mar 18, 2018, 6:43 AM

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what is the location for my saves?

rain cedar Mar 18, 2018, 6:43 AM

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Press win+r to open run and put in
%appdata%\..\LocalLow\Team Cherry\Hollow Knight\

amber vigil Mar 18, 2018, 6:44 AM

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I do not have the ModLog file

rain cedar Mar 18, 2018, 6:44 AM

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Yeah, figured since the installer is the problem here

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I'm not sure if that has any debug output

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I've never actually used either installer

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I'd recommend just trying a manual installation

amber vigil Mar 18, 2018, 6:45 AM

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Do you mind walking me through real quick then?

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or referring me to a video?

rain cedar Mar 18, 2018, 6:45 AM

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Sure, there's a video in the pins

amber vigil Mar 18, 2018, 6:46 AM

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watching now

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Ok I got the mod to work

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I beat the first two bosses in it

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why do I not have dash after beating Hornet>?

rain cedar Mar 18, 2018, 7:01 AM

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It's random rewards

amber vigil Mar 18, 2018, 7:05 AM

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oh geez

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hard to do some of these guys without dash haha

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you wanna tell me how to do soul tyrant without dash? lmao

rain cedar Mar 18, 2018, 7:09 AM

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Just get better

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Or lucky

fair rampart Mar 18, 2018, 8:19 AM

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guys

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when i install the boss rush mod it says there is a new version and i can't toggle the mod at all

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i need help

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pls

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its also the same with debug

rain cedar Mar 18, 2018, 8:24 AM

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Version checking can't be trusted to be accurate right now

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The github certificate in it is out of date and I don't know how to generate a new one

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Wyza set that up

pearl sentinel Mar 18, 2018, 12:23 PM

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So far the only case I'm aware of that has the mod installer failing is when someone tries to run it from a windows Temp path or from inside the extraction window of a zip or similar program. According to my friend who worked at MS, there's some special rules with what actions you're allowed to perform from Temp. I have an issue in to add something that tells at the user about this on the next version...

solemn rivet Mar 18, 2018, 3:47 PM

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Mine should fail... Idk when

buoyant wasp Mar 18, 2018, 4:07 PM

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so, it's not a certificate issue, cause the certs are still valid and match

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gotta be something else

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question is, what

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i'll try and figure it out

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(btw, i just used openssl s_client -connect api.github.com:443 to get the cert for it. nice and simple, the cert itself should be valid till 2020. I'll add the command to the comments in the API though so that we don't forget 😉

buoyant wasp Mar 18, 2018, 4:25 PM

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also, @rain cedar - I saw that you said the post-build was failing for you, but you still got the dlls. If you can send me the log output from the build, i'll see if i can figure out what it is.

noble trout Mar 18, 2018, 5:25 PM

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im playing with enemy randomizer why cant i turn off v sync or turn on full screen

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my cursor is above the v sync option but i cant change it

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doesnt work with arrow keys either

hollow pier Mar 18, 2018, 5:26 PM

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no its above particle effects

leaden hedge Mar 18, 2018, 5:27 PM

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because the hack I used to extend the menus

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breaks the fullscreen button

noble trout Mar 18, 2018, 5:28 PM

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i cant off v sync

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my screen tears like hell

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what can i do

hollow pier Mar 18, 2018, 5:28 PM

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just play with vsync easy

leaden hedge Mar 18, 2018, 5:28 PM

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turn off vsync without mods installed 🤔

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and then reload your game 🤔

hollow pier Mar 18, 2018, 5:28 PM

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why isnt vsync already off

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🤔

noble trout Mar 18, 2018, 5:28 PM

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its on u dungo

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that is why its tearing

hollow pier Mar 18, 2018, 5:29 PM

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go to city of tears

solemn rivet Mar 18, 2018, 5:31 PM

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Umm isn't vsync supposed to fix tearing, and not cause it?

copper nacelle Mar 18, 2018, 5:31 PM

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yes

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that's literally its job

noble trout Mar 18, 2018, 5:31 PM

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hmmm

pearl sentinel Mar 18, 2018, 5:32 PM

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Remove my mod, toggle vsync. It is a bug and I will look into it

hollow pier Mar 18, 2018, 5:32 PM

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fuzzy fake news

noble trout Mar 18, 2018, 5:32 PM

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so enemy randomizer just makes the game run like shit

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got it ✅

hollow pier Mar 18, 2018, 5:32 PM

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its because the enemies need to rando

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almost like its the enemy rando mod

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thinkgrub

pearl sentinel Mar 18, 2018, 5:36 PM

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I mean, I just got the mod last update to a mostly stable place. Optimizations and bug fixes will be coming but I appreciate the bug reports so I know what to fix

buoyant wasp Mar 18, 2018, 5:37 PM

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so, i know why the version checking broke

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Gtihub disabled TLS1.0/1.1. i hope the version of mono that HK uses supports TLS1.2...

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and, that's a big fat nope

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not only does it not support it

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the most recent version of unity 2018.2, still doesn't work with 1.2 right

copper nacelle Mar 18, 2018, 5:41 PM

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wtf

buoyant wasp Mar 18, 2018, 5:41 PM

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https://forum.unity.com/threads/unity-2017-1-tls-1-2-still-not-working-with-net-4-6.487415/

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That one will be fixed in 2018.2, code for this is on the way to our main development line but sadly won't make it to 2018.1

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like

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wth

fair rampart Mar 18, 2018, 5:42 PM

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how do i close the menu on debug mod?

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keybind or smth

copper nacelle Mar 18, 2018, 5:42 PM

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f2

buoyant wasp Mar 18, 2018, 5:42 PM

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TLS 1.2 has been around for literally 10 years

fair rampart Mar 18, 2018, 5:42 PM

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it only closes it partially 😦

buoyant wasp Mar 18, 2018, 5:42 PM

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F1?

fair rampart Mar 18, 2018, 5:43 PM

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wow cant believe i didnt figure that out.. lmao

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thanks

buoyant wasp Mar 18, 2018, 5:43 PM

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sigh well, i guess for now, i'm gonna have to disable version checking 😦

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i'm sure there is some other option like bundling an SSL library with the modding API, but I really don't want to deal with that across linux, mac and windows right now

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K, i've pushed a new version of the api up and uploaded it to the drive. The GithubVersionHelper now always returns version 0.0 regardless of what name you pass it. This effectively disables version checking for the foreseeable future. Not much we can do about it for now.

copper nacelle Mar 18, 2018, 6:02 PM

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o o f

austere gust Mar 18, 2018, 6:35 PM

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which mod allows me to create a spawn point i can respawn to/tele to? i know the game isnt meant to be played this way but im not having fun running back to soul master lol

young walrus Mar 18, 2018, 6:37 PM

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Debug mod. And the run back to soul master only has 1 soul twister in the path if you take all shortcuts

austere gust Mar 18, 2018, 6:38 PM

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i see mightve missed some then

young walrus Mar 18, 2018, 6:38 PM

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Broken wall to the right of cornifer bench room

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Like, right next to him

solemn rivet Mar 18, 2018, 6:56 PM

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Literally right next to him

young walrus Mar 18, 2018, 7:07 PM

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Ya. Then take the elevator on the left of the next room, then the shortcut above the 3 soul twisters in the 2nd room after that

fair rampart Mar 18, 2018, 7:25 PM

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hmm been trying to figure out debug mode for like 30 min or so, you can only set a spawn point in your current "map", if you tp to the spawn from a different area it bugs out

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its intended?

young walrus Mar 18, 2018, 7:26 PM

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spawn point is hazard respawn

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which only works per room

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if you want to set teleports, put down a dream gate

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you can have infinite of those down and chose which to TP to

fair rampart Mar 18, 2018, 7:26 PM

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ohh ofc im retarded

young walrus Mar 18, 2018, 7:26 PM

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just select which one you want to go to on the top right

fair rampart Mar 18, 2018, 7:27 PM

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ye got it now ty alot

young walrus Mar 18, 2018, 7:27 PM

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😉

obtuse sequoia Mar 18, 2018, 7:27 PM

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is the infinite dream gates a debug mod thing?

young walrus Mar 18, 2018, 7:27 PM

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yes

fair rampart Mar 18, 2018, 10:47 PM

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I'm curious about this enemy randomiser
and these other mods
I don't want to mess up my 106% save, and I doubt there's any way to only get these mods to affect one save file
also I'd like to know a bit more before jumping into these mods

vagrant leaf Mar 18, 2018, 10:48 PM

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just don't go on your 106% save when the mod is installed

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just having it installed won't fuck up your save

fair rampart Mar 18, 2018, 10:49 PM

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hmm okay

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@fair rampart
You can back up your saves if you're paranoid

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what's the 110% mod?

vagrant leaf Mar 18, 2018, 10:49 PM

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i get mods all the time and my 106% is still vanilla

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adds some more %

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like all geo clusters

fair rampart Mar 18, 2018, 10:49 PM

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oh

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for the OCD people?

vagrant leaf Mar 18, 2018, 10:50 PM

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probably

fair rampart Mar 18, 2018, 10:50 PM

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I've seen bonfire

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you can grind till you can oneshot every boss

vagrant leaf Mar 18, 2018, 10:50 PM

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yeah

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it's pretty neat

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i kinda think enemies should drop more geo so you can balance normal geo usage and levelling

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instead of just grinding

fair rampart Mar 18, 2018, 10:52 PM

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what do these do, if you don't mind me asking
Blackmoth (Gradow)
Charm Notch Mod (Seanpr)
Dreamshied Co-Op (753)
Empress Muzznik (753)
Lightbringer (753)
Player Data Tracker (KDT)
ScaleMod (753)

vagrant leaf Mar 18, 2018, 10:52 PM

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oh wait

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oh

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blackmoth turns your main attack into your dash

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basically makes nail do one damage

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and shadow dash available from the start

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and it does damage

fair rampart Mar 18, 2018, 10:53 PM

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oh

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yikes

vagrant leaf Mar 18, 2018, 10:53 PM

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and nail charms affect dash

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uhh

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charm notch mod gives you salubra's charm as soon as you get them

hollow pier Mar 18, 2018, 10:54 PM

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dshield co-op is pretty wacky it just allows one player to control dshield and one controls knight

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its local only

vagrant leaf Mar 18, 2018, 10:54 PM

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yeah

fair rampart Mar 18, 2018, 10:54 PM

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whoa

vagrant leaf Mar 18, 2018, 10:54 PM

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empress muzznik buffs gruz

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a lot

hollow pier Mar 18, 2018, 10:54 PM

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you can apparently pick up the knight too with dshield idk

fair rampart Mar 18, 2018, 10:54 PM

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like super mario galaxy and that star thing

vagrant leaf Mar 18, 2018, 10:54 PM

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lightbringer makes your attacks ranged

hollow pier Mar 18, 2018, 10:54 PM

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adds a lot of other content too

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play lightbringer

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new charms and stuff

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pretty cool

vagrant leaf Mar 18, 2018, 10:54 PM

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yeah it's great

fair rampart Mar 18, 2018, 10:54 PM

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what are the "new bosses" in lightbringer?

hollow pier Mar 18, 2018, 10:54 PM

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empress muzznik

vagrant leaf Mar 18, 2018, 10:54 PM

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muzznik is in it

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not sure what player data tracker is tbh

hollow pier Mar 18, 2018, 10:55 PM

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i think it tracks player data

vagrant leaf Mar 18, 2018, 10:55 PM

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scalemod lets you control the knight's size

fair rampart Mar 18, 2018, 10:56 PM

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whoa

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that sounds fun for dickin' around

vagrant leaf Mar 18, 2018, 10:56 PM

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yup

fair rampart Mar 18, 2018, 10:57 PM

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does your damage change?

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for making yourself tiny?

vagrant leaf Mar 18, 2018, 10:58 PM

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yes

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damage scales with size

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iirc

fair rampart Mar 18, 2018, 10:59 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkG5QqvEYBg

YouTube

East Side Lag

Hollow Knight's True Final Boss

Just another day in the Hollow Knight modding community. http://www.moddb.com/mods/hollow-knight-lightbringer

▶ Play video

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gruz mother has never been so scary

solemn rivet Mar 18, 2018, 11:03 PM

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Bonfire does make enemies drop more geo and have more HP tho

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Also, blackmoth adds other dash functionalities

vagrant leaf Mar 18, 2018, 11:04 PM

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ik i just remembered about the luck stat

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and forgot about 8-way dash and all that

solemn rivet Mar 18, 2018, 11:04 PM

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Ye

vagrant leaf Mar 18, 2018, 11:04 PM

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i should do a full bonfire playthrough

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maybe after gng

solemn rivet Mar 18, 2018, 11:05 PM

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Spoilers: it's boring

vagrant leaf Mar 18, 2018, 11:05 PM

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oh do you get like really op

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halfway through the game

solemn rivet Mar 18, 2018, 11:05 PM

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I'm the mod creator and I'm willing to admit that

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Yup

vagrant leaf Mar 18, 2018, 11:05 PM

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yeah that makes sense

solemn rivet Mar 18, 2018, 11:06 PM

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I tried to make the stats as slow scaling as possible

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But it's so broken

fair rampart Mar 18, 2018, 11:06 PM

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Nightmare God Grimm (KDT)
FSM (kcghost)
?

vagrant leaf Mar 18, 2018, 11:06 PM

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maybe i'll just do hell mod with it

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that would probably fix it

hollow pier Mar 18, 2018, 11:06 PM

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is it possible to scale per boss

solemn rivet Mar 18, 2018, 11:06 PM

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Try a Str/Dex build with some Luck and Res points... It's gg

hollow pier Mar 18, 2018, 11:06 PM

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it might be really bad early game banana

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but easy lategame

vagrant leaf Mar 18, 2018, 11:07 PM

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nightmare god grimm is a mod that basicaly makes nkg actually unfair and stupidly hard

hollow pier Mar 18, 2018, 11:07 PM

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ngg makes him faster and the spikes attack always happens

solemn rivet Mar 18, 2018, 11:07 PM

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No, makes NKG actually a challenge

hollow pier Mar 18, 2018, 11:07 PM

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no ones ever done it

fair rampart Mar 18, 2018, 11:07 PM

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I found ngk hard enough

vagrant leaf Mar 18, 2018, 11:07 PM

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yeah literally no one has beat ngg

solemn rivet Mar 18, 2018, 11:07 PM

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Not in single segment at least

fair rampart Mar 18, 2018, 11:08 PM

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and the attacks overlapping would just make it... unfair

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rather than fair but hard

hollow pier Mar 18, 2018, 11:08 PM

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there are two nkgs at the final phase

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and they attack relentlessy

vagrant leaf Mar 18, 2018, 11:08 PM

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you should do original radiance

solemn rivet Mar 18, 2018, 11:08 PM

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But no one has beaten flukemilf nail0 single segment as well, so...

vagrant leaf Mar 18, 2018, 11:08 PM

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graig said they had to nerf it to what it is now

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constant overlapping

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and a random amount of homing balls

hollow pier Mar 18, 2018, 11:09 PM

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mick did collector nail0 only

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its almost as bad

solemn rivet Mar 18, 2018, 11:10 PM

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also, I don't think NGG is unfair

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I think it's theoretically possible to beat it no-hit

hollow pier Mar 18, 2018, 11:10 PM

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i mean its basically the nkg fight but you can stand in one spot

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how would you do the last phase no hit

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just ddark spam and get lucky by hitting both health pools

solemn rivet Mar 18, 2018, 11:12 PM

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I still think flukemilf n0 is the ultimate boss

fair rampart Mar 18, 2018, 11:12 PM

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fluke...milf?

solemn rivet Mar 19, 2018, 12:45 AM

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yup

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cornywoke

copper nacelle Mar 19, 2018, 12:45 AM

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📎 DeepinScreenshot_select-area_20180318204549.png

ornate rivet Mar 19, 2018, 1:07 AM

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how dare you block zote, our god

pearl sentinel Mar 19, 2018, 5:30 AM

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woo, fixed the slash spider enemy (devout)

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now they will viciously hack at you once again

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i made a component that tracks the current states of an enemy's FSMs and keeps track of what state it's in and when it transitions and what event triggers the transition. Used that to figure out that the slash spider was getting stuck in a "waiting" state. Added functionality to send a "WAKE" event for the slash spider (devout) when it gets in the stuck state and poof, be's back to being deadly.

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now to use this to fix a bunch of other enemies...

solemn rivet Mar 19, 2018, 12:23 PM

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That tool sounds neat (devout)

pearl sentinel Mar 19, 2018, 1:00 PM

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It's super handy

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I should've done this a long time ago

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Having a component that runs on an enemy makes it much easier to do things

solemn rivet Mar 19, 2018, 2:32 PM

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still waiting on GnG, but depending on how much is changed on the FSM scene, I might need to do something similar to make multidirectional superdash work

pearl sentinel Mar 19, 2018, 2:42 PM

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yeah, i was just thinking "this is gonna be handy and probably useless real soon"

copper nacelle Mar 19, 2018, 3:02 PM

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sad but true

solemn rivet Mar 19, 2018, 3:26 PM

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not sad! We're (probably) gonna be finally free from FSMs!

buoyant wasp Mar 19, 2018, 3:43 PM

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seriously, i pray that it becomes completely useless, because that means our lives are gonna be alot easier

leaden hedge Mar 19, 2018, 3:50 PM

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enemy controllers are staying fsm

buoyant wasp Mar 19, 2018, 3:54 PM

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not really a surprise there, but it'd be nice if alot of the other stuff wasn't 😃

rustic stag Mar 19, 2018, 4:32 PM

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Damn. So modifying enemies to any significant extent will still be a pain in the butt?

pearl sentinel Mar 19, 2018, 5:31 PM

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So good news for enemy randomizer: I got crystal guardian working

vagrant leaf Mar 19, 2018, 5:32 PM

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nice

pearl sentinel Mar 19, 2018, 5:32 PM

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He's really deadly in a tight space

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If there's more than one the beams are weird because by default they reference the same beam prefab, so I need to fix that

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Then you can fight a room full of them

vagrant leaf Mar 19, 2018, 5:34 PM

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do CG and CG2 rando separately?

pearl sentinel Mar 19, 2018, 5:34 PM

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I haven't tried to add cg2 into the rotation at all since it'll feel about the same

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But yes it would

vagrant leaf Mar 19, 2018, 5:35 PM

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ok

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nice

pearl sentinel Mar 19, 2018, 5:36 PM

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I'm hoping eventually that I can shuffle all the minibosses around, so you could fight crystal guardian in place of brooding mawlek, for example

vagrant leaf Mar 19, 2018, 5:36 PM

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oh that would be cool

pearl sentinel Mar 19, 2018, 5:36 PM

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Then maybe I can make a super brooding mawlek for part 2 if it does a swap like that

vagrant leaf Mar 19, 2018, 5:37 PM

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when rando choice gets added i might do a playthrough with only bosses and minibosses

pearl sentinel Mar 19, 2018, 5:38 PM

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Yeah, should be possible

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Will be more fun the more of then I can fix/add in

oblique fjord Mar 19, 2018, 5:39 PM

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does anyone know the button to hide ui in debug mod?

vagrant leaf Mar 19, 2018, 5:39 PM

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f1

oblique fjord Mar 19, 2018, 5:40 PM

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the health bar

vagrant leaf Mar 19, 2018, 5:40 PM

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what health bar

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enemy health bars?

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there should be a toggle if you look in the binds

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if not you can just manually disable it

oblique fjord Mar 19, 2018, 5:41 PM

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how? im new sorry

young walrus Mar 19, 2018, 5:41 PM

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you talking the MC's hp?

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just click through the menu

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there's like 10 pages of binds

oblique fjord Mar 19, 2018, 5:41 PM

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were can i find those?

young walrus Mar 19, 2018, 5:42 PM

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the main box

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in the middle

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click the pages button

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should say like 1/10

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or something

oblique fjord Mar 19, 2018, 5:42 PM

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oh thanks

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found it. its delete

fair rampart Mar 19, 2018, 5:59 PM

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what's the best mod?

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randomiser?

young walrus Mar 19, 2018, 6:00 PM

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depends on you

fair rampart Mar 19, 2018, 6:01 PM

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I kind of just want to dick around

pearl sentinel Mar 19, 2018, 6:02 PM

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Randomizer + EnemyRandomizer is probably what you want then, or debug mod

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Or all of the above

fair rampart Mar 19, 2018, 6:03 PM

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what's the difference between randomiser and enemy randomiser?

pearl sentinel Mar 19, 2018, 6:03 PM

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Items / Enemies

fair rampart Mar 19, 2018, 6:04 PM

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so like charms?

vagrant leaf Mar 19, 2018, 6:05 PM

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charms and abilities are rando'd

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in normal rando

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any charm can be any charm or any ability

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and any ability can be any ability or any charm

fair rampart Mar 19, 2018, 6:08 PM

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but what is you don#t get shade cloak

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you need that

young walrus Mar 19, 2018, 6:15 PM

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what do you need shade cloak for?

fair rampart Mar 19, 2018, 6:15 PM

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oh sorry I mean mothwing cloak

vagrant leaf Mar 19, 2018, 6:19 PM

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then you use dj

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there are precautions taken to avoid softlocks in rando

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on hard rando you'll have to do some difficult skips

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but usually you aren't just blocked off from progression

young walrus Mar 19, 2018, 6:25 PM

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^^

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definitely recommend playing on easy

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otherwise you're going to have a bad time

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hard is intended for speedrunner use

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or the very strong-willed

vagrant leaf Mar 19, 2018, 6:34 PM

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hard isn't that difficult imo

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especially if you're lucky

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the most i had to do is a couple shade skips and a fireball skip

pearl sentinel Mar 19, 2018, 6:37 PM

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The worst hard seed I had put double jump behind hornet 2

vagrant leaf Mar 19, 2018, 6:37 PM

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ez

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pogo on shade

pearl sentinel Mar 19, 2018, 6:37 PM

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And the tear T shade cloak

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At*

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I ended up doing like 80% completion trying to find everything

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It was my first randomizer tho, so I didn't know how to do the skip to get to hornet 2

young walrus Mar 19, 2018, 7:17 PM

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the best skip is going through the spike gauntlet in crystal peaks

pearl sentinel Mar 19, 2018, 7:19 PM

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See that one I could do bc it's just spikes

young walrus Mar 19, 2018, 7:19 PM

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do it with no dash

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ooh, and then getting to crystal heart with no claw is fun too

pearl sentinel Mar 19, 2018, 7:21 PM

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Can you?

young walrus Mar 19, 2018, 7:21 PM

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yup

pearl sentinel Mar 19, 2018, 7:21 PM

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O.o

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With double jump I assume?

young walrus Mar 19, 2018, 7:22 PM

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Randomizer CH with only wings/dash https://clips.twitch.tv/IntelligentNimbleGalagoBudStar

Twitch

Mickely Playing Hollow Knight - Twitch Clips

Randomizer CH with no claw - Clipped by Mickely

▶ Play video

pearl sentinel Mar 19, 2018, 7:22 PM

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Oh ok, I was thinking you meant without wings

young walrus Mar 19, 2018, 7:22 PM

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nah. you can't even get here without wings

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(if no claw)

pearl sentinel Mar 19, 2018, 7:23 PM

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zote

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I gotcha

young walrus Mar 19, 2018, 7:23 PM

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even if somehow you got to the top of the CP climb, there's that tall wall in the way

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need wings to get over that

copper nacelle Mar 19, 2018, 8:53 PM

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grimm

📎 DeepinScreenshot_select-area_20180319165311.png

pearl grove Mar 19, 2018, 10:14 PM

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nice try

sturdy jetty Mar 20, 2018, 1:35 AM

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Do the mods work on both Steam and GOG copies?

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Do the mods work on Microsoft Windows, Mac OS X, Linux?

vagrant leaf Mar 20, 2018, 1:36 AM

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which mods

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api mods should work on windows mac and linux

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non-api mods i dunno

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not sure what works on GOG

sturdy jetty Mar 20, 2018, 1:41 AM

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Will mods ever be on the Steam workshop?

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Why do some people put Steam mods on the Steam workshop and some people just link them on Discord?

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Is there a difference between the 2 practices?

vagrant leaf Mar 20, 2018, 1:42 AM

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there will most likely never be a steam workshop

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for hk

sturdy jetty Mar 20, 2018, 1:42 AM

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I see. What factors need to happen for a certain game (not just Hollow Knight specifically) for a Steam workshop to exist?

vagrant leaf Mar 20, 2018, 1:42 AM

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i have no idea

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if the devs feel like it probably

slate owl Mar 20, 2018, 1:50 AM

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Bingo code is obfuscated lol... https://github.com/kbuzsaki/bingosync/blob/master/bingosync-app/generators/hollow_knight_generator.js

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I dont understand how you can make a bingo generator that doesnt consider how long a goal takes. XD

solemn rivet Mar 20, 2018, 2:07 AM

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devs have to actually add Steam Workshop support

copper nacelle Mar 20, 2018, 2:32 AM

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the bingo code is wtf

frail copper Mar 20, 2018, 2:44 AM

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@vagrant leaf
@vagrant leaf
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@vagrant leaf @vagrant leaf
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@vagrant leaf@vagrant leaf
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@vagrant leaf
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@vagrant leaf @vagrant leaf
@vagrant leaf
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vagrant leaf Mar 20, 2018, 2:44 AM

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hornetping

young walrus Mar 20, 2018, 2:46 AM

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@slate owl so make your own

frail copper Mar 20, 2018, 2:46 AM

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i cant delete

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xd

young walrus Mar 20, 2018, 2:46 AM

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Or actually offer feedback

slate owl Mar 20, 2018, 2:48 AM

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@young walrus Is there a reason why the code obfuscated? (Aka intentionnally made illisible.)

young walrus Mar 20, 2018, 2:48 AM

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The list?

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I made the list, I didn't make the first part. That was added by the dude who made the site so it fits in his system

slate owl Mar 20, 2018, 2:49 AM

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The list is great.

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But it needs a logic to make it balanced.

young walrus Mar 20, 2018, 2:50 AM

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The list is intended to be balanced in and of itself.

slate owl Mar 20, 2018, 2:50 AM

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Like it's done on the OoT bingo for example. Which was also obfuscated by the site even though bingosync didnt even write the code for it XD

young walrus Mar 20, 2018, 2:50 AM

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Which is why there's a lot that isn't included

slate owl Mar 20, 2018, 2:51 AM

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The easiest way to balance things out is to add a difficulty to each goal.

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And you try to balance the sum of the difficulty for each row/col.

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To generate a short bingo, you make the difficulty sum lower than normal.

young walrus Mar 20, 2018, 2:52 AM

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We're not generating different lengths tho.

pearl sentinel Mar 20, 2018, 2:52 AM

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i don't think the bingo stuff had a programmer work on it?

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(might be remembering wrong)

young walrus Mar 20, 2018, 2:54 AM

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All it does is pick 25 from the list. That's it.

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And I'm by no means a programmer

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But I wanted that shit done

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So I did it

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With a lot of help

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On the actual coding

rain cedar Mar 20, 2018, 2:55 AM

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I could implement the system rainingchain is suggesting if you supply goal difficulties

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See how it works out

slate owl Mar 20, 2018, 2:55 AM

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Oot Bingo already has the code for it actually, that considers difficulty.

pearl sentinel Mar 20, 2018, 2:55 AM

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I hear ya mickely 👍

slate owl Mar 20, 2018, 2:56 AM

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But the code isnt the nicest to say the least...

young walrus Mar 20, 2018, 2:56 AM

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So just fucking fix it

pearl sentinel Mar 20, 2018, 2:57 AM

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dude just wanted to play some bingo, so he made himself a bingo

slate owl Mar 20, 2018, 2:59 AM

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https://github.com/giuocob/OoT-Bingo/blob/master/generator.js

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https://github.com/giuocob/OoT-Bingo/blob/master/goal-list.js

copper nacelle Mar 20, 2018, 3:00 AM

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why is the hk one obfuscated

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but not the OoT one

pearl sentinel Mar 20, 2018, 3:00 AM

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it's not

copper nacelle Mar 20, 2018, 3:00 AM

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📎 DeepinScreenshot_select-area_20180319230052.png

slate owl Mar 20, 2018, 3:00 AM

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I took the source code from the guy that coded the OoT bingo.

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The guy that made bingosync just took his OoT code and obfuscated it.

pearl sentinel Mar 20, 2018, 3:01 AM

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@copper nacelle yeah that's just how it was programmed

copper nacelle Mar 20, 2018, 3:01 AM

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wtf

slate owl Mar 20, 2018, 3:01 AM

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https://github.com/kbuzsaki/bingosync/blob/master/bingosync-app/generators/ocarina_of_time_generator.js

pearl sentinel Mar 20, 2018, 3:03 AM

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hm, looks like that was just the code that was used as a starting base then (shrug)

copper nacelle Mar 20, 2018, 3:03 AM

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what's the point of open sourcing if you're going to obfuscate your code

slate owl Mar 20, 2018, 3:03 AM

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Exactly XD

pearl sentinel Mar 20, 2018, 3:04 AM

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interesting thing: i disassembled like 20+ steam games the other day to poke around in their source

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and only axiom verge had used an obfuscator

rain cedar Mar 20, 2018, 3:05 AM

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You looked at the salt and sanctuary source?

pearl sentinel Mar 20, 2018, 3:05 AM

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i got it, haven't looked in it much yet

rain cedar Mar 20, 2018, 3:05 AM

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Might as well be obfuscated for all the sense it makes

copper nacelle Mar 20, 2018, 3:05 AM

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lol

pearl sentinel Mar 20, 2018, 3:05 AM

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but i was going to

rain cedar Mar 20, 2018, 3:05 AM

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Fuckers love magic numbers and switches

pearl sentinel Mar 20, 2018, 3:05 AM

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man, i can believe it

rain cedar Mar 20, 2018, 3:05 AM

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Motherfucking switches

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Everywhere

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And the player is the same class as monsters

pearl sentinel Mar 20, 2018, 3:06 AM

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i've seen switch statements like you wouldn't believe

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which reminds me, have you seen the article "how to get fired using switch statements"

slate owl Mar 20, 2018, 3:06 AM

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Player and monster sharing same class is normal.

rain cedar Mar 20, 2018, 3:06 AM

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I haven't

pearl sentinel Mar 20, 2018, 3:06 AM

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http://blog.robertelder.org/switch-statements-statement-expressions/

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great read

rain cedar Mar 20, 2018, 3:06 AM

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It's not the same base class

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It just IS the same

slate owl Mar 20, 2018, 3:07 AM

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Oh...

pearl sentinel Mar 20, 2018, 3:07 AM

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reminds me of the old monolythic architecture where the EVERYTHING was a base class

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i remember seeing a lot of old games that were like that

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base class bloated with every property, so doors had health and damage etc

rain cedar Mar 20, 2018, 3:08 AM

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Sounds awful

pearl sentinel Mar 20, 2018, 3:08 AM

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it was dark days

slate owl Mar 20, 2018, 3:09 AM

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I did a bit of coding for OoT.

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In MIPS.

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Kinda impressive what ppl could do 3D with assembly.

rain cedar Mar 20, 2018, 3:10 AM

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Yeah I couldn't do that

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Definitely not

pearl sentinel Mar 20, 2018, 3:10 AM

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from the reddit thread on that article last year, someone posted this

    switch (!0) {
        case (createAccountForm = forms.filter(createAccountForm), !!createAccountForm.length):
            createAccountFormFn(createAccountForm);
            processQueryString(createAccountForm);
            break;
        case (addNewProperty = forms.filter(addNewProperty), !!addNewProperty.length):
            addNewPropertyFn(addNewProperty);
            processQueryString(addNewProperty);
            break;
        case (!!templates.length && templates.is(contactUsFormTemplate)):
            contactUsFn(forms);
            break;
        case (!!templates.length && templates.is(loginFormTemplate)):
            loginFn(forms);
            break;

        case (!!templates.length && templates.is(forgotPassTemplate)):
            forgotPassFn(forms);
            break;

        case (!!templates.length && templates.is(GetSecurityQuestionTemplate)):
            resetPasswordFn(forms);
            break;
    };

copper nacelle Mar 20, 2018, 3:10 AM

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what the fuck

pearl sentinel Mar 20, 2018, 3:10 AM

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also has great comments: https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/59p689/how_to_get_fired_using_switch_statements/

How to Get Fired Using Switch Statements & Statement Expressions ...

731 points and 180 comments so far on reddit

rain cedar Mar 20, 2018, 3:10 AM

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Oh no

pearl sentinel Mar 20, 2018, 3:11 AM

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i learned about some atrocities reading that

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but i feel better knowing they exist now

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in case i run into them

rain cedar Mar 20, 2018, 3:11 AM

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I think my favorite part of that is it's switching on a constant

pearl sentinel Mar 20, 2018, 3:12 AM

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like

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#include <stdio.h>

int main() {
    int i = 0;
    switch (i) {
        i += 100;
        i += 5 + ({ case 0: 7; 5; });
    }
    printf("%i\n", i);
}

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it's just scary

copper nacelle Mar 20, 2018, 3:12 AM

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why

rain cedar Mar 20, 2018, 3:13 AM

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What is that even meant to do?

pearl sentinel Mar 20, 2018, 3:13 AM

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apparently, it prints 10

copper nacelle Mar 20, 2018, 3:14 AM

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wtf

slate owl Mar 20, 2018, 3:14 AM

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About the bingo.

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I think the first task would be to add approximative difficulty to each goal.

pearl sentinel Mar 20, 2018, 3:15 AM

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probably, someone just needs to do it

slate owl Mar 20, 2018, 3:16 AM

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I feel the bingo and the randomizer are closely connected.

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Randomizer is NMG only though.

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So probably doesnt work well actually...

pearl sentinel Mar 20, 2018, 3:17 AM

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a bunch of glitches will be gone/changed really soon anyway

slate owl Mar 20, 2018, 3:17 AM

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Because ideally, for each goal, we have the dependencies.

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Then for a row, we have the list of dependencies.

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And we can estimate how long each dependencies take.

pearl sentinel Mar 20, 2018, 3:18 AM

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doesn't sound complicated, my small amount of time is going into my enemy randomizer right now though

slate owl Mar 20, 2018, 3:19 AM

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Is the bingo meant to be played NMG mostly or any%?

young walrus Mar 20, 2018, 3:20 AM

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NMG

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The specific problem you're worried about isn't really an issue because we only really do double line bingo, lockouts, drafts, or blackouts, which normalizes the overall difficulty far more than single line does.

charred parrot Mar 20, 2018, 3:52 AM

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Question.

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For every scene, is there an instance of the Knight, or does one Knight move from scene to scene?

pearl sentinel Mar 20, 2018, 4:01 AM

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one

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example line from the code:


    public static HeroController instance { get; }

fair rampart Mar 20, 2018, 4:38 AM

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@pearl sentinel
Do you just use dnSpy to do the disassembling?

pearl sentinel Mar 20, 2018, 4:38 AM

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i did

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probably could have used any number of tools

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so i was just reading through this PlamakerFSM's states and found this

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\----PFSM StateName: Blow Chunks

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i found that way too funny... i should go to bed

copper nacelle Mar 20, 2018, 4:41 AM

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lol

pearl sentinel Mar 20, 2018, 4:41 AM

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especially since its actions are to fling objects

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ohh it's the corpse state machine

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i was confused because it also had stuff like


[INFO]:[EnemyRandomizer] - ComponentExtensions.PrintPlayMakerFSM(Component c, String componentHeader) ::::                    \----PFSM StateName: Corpse Gone Goop

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success!

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after fixing crystal guardian, also fixed these little guys

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https://puu.sh/zLtZO/7763b0db94.png

copper nacelle Mar 20, 2018, 4:53 AM

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nice

pearl sentinel Mar 20, 2018, 4:53 AM

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tomorrow i fix mages and electric mages

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man enemy randomizer is gonna be a lot harder

copper nacelle Mar 20, 2018, 4:54 AM

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is hk still invisible

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invisible thk is amazing

pearl sentinel Mar 20, 2018, 5:00 AM

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probably

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you're the only one who's gotten there

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else i feel i'd have more reports about that

copper nacelle Mar 20, 2018, 5:01 AM

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cool

rain cedar Mar 20, 2018, 5:01 AM

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Enemy randomizer doesn't really incentivize actually beating the game

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It's more fun to just go around everywhere looking at the crazy shit

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I mean why would I go fight bosses that are the same as without the mod?

copper nacelle Mar 20, 2018, 5:02 AM

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~~for invisible thk~~

pearl sentinel Mar 20, 2018, 5:03 AM

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well, once all the enemies are working, i intend to spice up the bosses

rain cedar Mar 20, 2018, 5:03 AM

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Collector random spawns would be really cool

pearl sentinel Mar 20, 2018, 5:03 AM

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that "should" happen right now

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(untested)

rain cedar Mar 20, 2018, 5:03 AM

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Ah ok haven't tried in a while

copper nacelle Mar 20, 2018, 5:03 AM

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do lost kin spawns work now

pearl sentinel Mar 20, 2018, 5:03 AM

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untested

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they should though

vagrant leaf Mar 20, 2018, 5:03 AM

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choose rando enemies when

pearl sentinel Mar 20, 2018, 5:03 AM

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i just don't have time to test

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once all the rando enemies work

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the toggle list is next after "make everything work"

copper nacelle Mar 20, 2018, 5:04 AM

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lol

solemn rivet Mar 20, 2018, 1:22 PM

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I've just seen lobosjr posting his DS2 SOTFS enemy randomizer run, now I'm even more excited for HK enemy rando

pearl sentinel Mar 20, 2018, 3:36 PM

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it's comin' along

solemn rivet Mar 20, 2018, 7:11 PM

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so, can someone explain to me why we don't have cheat tables for HK like we do in some other games? How is HK different from those games?

hollow pier Mar 20, 2018, 7:11 PM

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cheating is bad

solemn rivet Mar 20, 2018, 7:18 PM

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I don't mean tables for cheating, but some games use CE to actually implement mods

buoyant obsidian Mar 20, 2018, 7:23 PM

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I started making a cheat table but stopped because it was too hard compared to dnSpy

fair rampart Mar 20, 2018, 8:31 PM

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Mmmh... What is FSM mod?

copper nacelle Mar 20, 2018, 8:31 PM

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fsm dumper mod?

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dumps FSMs

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(finite state machines)

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useful for modding so you know what to change

solemn rivet Mar 20, 2018, 8:39 PM

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I'm planning on making a few videos showcasing the mods we have, showing some features, some gameplay etc.

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will be useful for all those people asking "what ze mods do"

copper nacelle Mar 20, 2018, 8:39 PM

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inb4 remaster kills everything

solemn rivet Mar 20, 2018, 8:39 PM

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not for long, I hope

copper nacelle Mar 20, 2018, 8:40 PM

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yeah

ornate rivet Mar 20, 2018, 8:40 PM

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inb4 remaster doesnt change anything

solemn rivet Mar 20, 2018, 8:40 PM

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it most surely will

open owl Mar 20, 2018, 8:43 PM

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can someone help me with crossroads

ornate rivet Mar 20, 2018, 8:44 PM

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with what mod?

open owl Mar 20, 2018, 8:44 PM

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enemy randomizer

ornate rivet Mar 20, 2018, 8:44 PM

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what's your problem?

open owl Mar 20, 2018, 8:44 PM

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the enemys are normal

exotic venture Mar 20, 2018, 8:44 PM

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have you enabled the mod

open owl Mar 20, 2018, 8:45 PM

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yeah

exotic venture Mar 20, 2018, 8:45 PM

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it's disabled by default

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have you pressed the big "Turn on Enemy Randomizer" button?

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in the top right corner?

open owl Mar 20, 2018, 8:46 PM

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i clicked randomizer

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is it two dif things

exotic venture Mar 20, 2018, 8:47 PM

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yeah

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one on the mods menu

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one on the start menu

open owl Mar 20, 2018, 8:47 PM

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wait it appeared after i exited the menu

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thanks

exotic venture Mar 20, 2018, 8:52 PM

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ayy no prob

copper nacelle Mar 20, 2018, 9:19 PM

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📎 5mchnurr6ym01.png

fair rampart Mar 20, 2018, 11:21 PM

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Is there a specific mod that allows you to put all the charms you want?

young walrus Mar 20, 2018, 11:21 PM

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debug mod

fair rampart Mar 20, 2018, 11:21 PM

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I have no idea of modding

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thanks

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good, I think I broke the game

vagrant leaf Mar 20, 2018, 11:31 PM

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what happened

fair rampart Mar 20, 2018, 11:32 PM

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I dont know

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I think something with: Assembly-CSharp.dll

young walrus Mar 20, 2018, 11:32 PM

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did you watch the video on installing?

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or use the crossroads installer?

fair rampart Mar 20, 2018, 11:33 PM

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I followed the instructions of "READ ME"

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but probably I did something wrong

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lets go to reinstall

young walrus Mar 20, 2018, 11:36 PM

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watch the video in pins

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or use the crossroads installer

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also in pins

solemn rivet Mar 20, 2018, 11:43 PM

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use installers

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should have no issues

young walrus Mar 20, 2018, 11:46 PM

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just make sure to actually extract the installer before using

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it won't work in the temp folder

fair rampart Mar 20, 2018, 11:47 PM

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one question: if I have my user.dat.bak files saved.
I'm sure my games are safe??

young walrus Mar 20, 2018, 11:47 PM

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the installer has an option to backup saves

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and the .dat.bak is not what you want

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they're usually terrible backups

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copy the user.dat files somewhere you want to keep them safe

fair rampart Mar 20, 2018, 11:51 PM

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thanks!!!

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I'm trying to fix this

solemn rivet Mar 20, 2018, 11:53 PM

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also, if you don't load a save while using a mod, nothing will happen to that save

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not telling you not to backup

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but at the same time, you don't need to worry too much

fair rampart Mar 20, 2018, 11:55 PM

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ok

fair rampart Mar 21, 2018, 12:14 AM

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my potato laptop is awesome

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not really

solemn rivet Mar 21, 2018, 12:14 AM

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I run HK on my potaters laptop

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60fps hype

maiden moss Mar 21, 2018, 12:52 AM

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Would be cool if the nail upgrades could be added to the randomizer pool (sequentially for each item picked up). Also so some trolly seeds could have progression at Nailsmith 😄

daring snow Mar 21, 2018, 12:55 AM

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Nail upgrades pose a problem on hard seeds due to a lot of the trickier skips relying on multiple pogos off enemies

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It could potentially halt progression

maiden moss Mar 21, 2018, 12:56 AM

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I guess they would be added to the logic of the seed if required for those hard skips

young walrus Mar 21, 2018, 12:58 AM

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That would almost be too OP. Cuz youd have to put non progression items behind the actual nail upgrades potentially too

daring snow Mar 21, 2018, 12:59 AM

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The only truly useful time to get a nail upgrade would be when you have the win condition movement abilities

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So at that point it would be pointless

maiden moss Mar 21, 2018, 12:59 AM

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True True, then maybe add Maps to dilute the item pool then too? Lots of Conifer places to check

young walrus Mar 21, 2018, 12:59 AM

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that would add too much value to shops again

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cuz you wouldnt even have to talk to him

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just go to the shop and buy them

maiden moss Mar 21, 2018, 1:01 AM

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ah yea... It's too bad shops are so OP in this particular randomizer

burnt laurel Mar 21, 2018, 1:01 AM

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i just tried out the resize mod, and when i rested at a bench i fell through the floor

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whenever i rest at a bench, it forces me to maximum size and i fall through the ground

fair rampart Mar 21, 2018, 1:07 AM

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omg, after 999h, I finally reintall the game. Why am I so bad doing this things?

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these*

solemn rivet Mar 21, 2018, 1:10 AM

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what's wrong deibe?

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let us help you troubleshoot this

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also, Graig, is this your final form?

fair rampart Mar 21, 2018, 1:15 AM

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Its ok now :)

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I think I will try mod in other time

pearl sentinel Mar 21, 2018, 1:30 AM

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he's not SSJ Graig yet

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def not final form

burnt laurel Mar 21, 2018, 1:43 AM

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is there a fix for the problem i stated earlier about the resize mod?

solemn rivet Mar 21, 2018, 1:45 AM

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I... don't think so

young walrus Mar 21, 2018, 1:47 AM

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don't play the mod

pearl sentinel Mar 21, 2018, 2:29 AM

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how much health does the highest health boss have?

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anyone know ish off the top of their head?

fair rampart Mar 21, 2018, 2:33 AM

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How do you look at the menus for the debug mod? i closed then and don't know how to open them back up

void tree Mar 21, 2018, 2:34 AM

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press f1

fair rampart Mar 21, 2018, 2:36 AM

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just turns sound off

young walrus Mar 21, 2018, 2:39 AM

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radiance has 3k

pearl sentinel Mar 21, 2018, 2:39 AM

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awesome, ty!

young walrus Mar 21, 2018, 2:39 AM

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though 1300 is when you're smacking her shit

pearl sentinel Mar 21, 2018, 2:39 AM

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so if i set something's hp to 10k that might be a bit high

fair rampart Mar 21, 2018, 2:39 AM

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Hoolp me

young walrus Mar 21, 2018, 2:39 AM

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restart the game

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but it's F1

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like the first 5 function buttons hide different menus

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F1 does all of them

solemn rivet Mar 21, 2018, 2:41 AM

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those are the default bindings

fair rampart Mar 21, 2018, 2:41 AM

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I did

solemn rivet Mar 21, 2018, 2:41 AM

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you did...?

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restart the game?

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are you sure debug is installed?

fair rampart Mar 21, 2018, 2:42 AM

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It is, i restarted once

rain cedar Mar 21, 2018, 3:05 AM

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Whenever I get around to working on mods again I'm gonna remove that hide menu button

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Because apparently it's not clear enough that "hide menu" hides the menu

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With that gone, it'll be impossible for anyone to close the menu without knowing the key to reopen it

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Unless they just button mash or some shit

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Also your problem is you're on a laptop

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@fair rampart

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Press fn+f1

young walrus Mar 21, 2018, 3:11 AM

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lol

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not actually pressing F1

rain cedar Mar 21, 2018, 3:22 AM

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Basically, yeah

narrow night Mar 21, 2018, 6:28 AM

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?help

rain cedar Mar 21, 2018, 6:36 AM

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Same

narrow night Mar 21, 2018, 6:38 AM

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will it going to be mods that add lots new charms to the game ? :c

rain cedar Mar 21, 2018, 6:43 AM

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Really depends on how much someone wants that to be a thing

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More effort than it's worth in my opinion

narrow night Mar 21, 2018, 6:46 AM

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oh

rain cedar Mar 21, 2018, 7:07 AM

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What you were meant to take away from that was "He's not going to do it but I can because I really want it to be a thing"

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But I think what you got was "He's not going to do it so it's never happening"

copper nacelle Mar 21, 2018, 10:22 AM

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what fsm is the mantis lord boss stuff

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i can't find any mantis lord fsms grimm

rain cedar Mar 21, 2018, 10:23 AM

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It's probably just called something like boss control

copper nacelle Mar 21, 2018, 10:55 AM

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I just didn't dump them apparently

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thanks for the help

solemn rivet Mar 21, 2018, 12:20 PM

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The more I think of it, the expression "dumping FSMs" makes more and more sense

copper nacelle Mar 21, 2018, 12:22 PM

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lol

fair rampart Mar 21, 2018, 3:33 PM

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why does it have low resolution?
I dont understand almost nothing

📎 IMG_20180321_163036.jpg

copper nacelle Mar 21, 2018, 3:33 PM

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you don't understand what

young walrus Mar 21, 2018, 3:35 PM

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"i don't understand almost nothing"

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so you understand everything?

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noot

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what resolution is your game at?

fair rampart Mar 21, 2018, 3:36 PM

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Mmmmh... Sorry, im spanish so its normal

young walrus Mar 21, 2018, 3:37 PM

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"all charms" "kingsoul: 4" "grimmchild: 2" "Heart Fix" "Greed Fix" "Strength Fix" "overcharm"

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numbers are levels

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fix are for fragile charms

fair rampart Mar 21, 2018, 3:37 PM

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Aaaa. Ok ok

young walrus Mar 21, 2018, 3:38 PM

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kingsoul 1 = 1 fragment, 2 = the other fragment, 3 = kingsoul, 4 = voidheart

fair rampart Mar 21, 2018, 3:39 PM

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Thanks guys!

solemn rivet Mar 21, 2018, 3:39 PM

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try playing fullscreen if that helps

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iirc you're playing on a laptop, right?

fair rampart Mar 21, 2018, 3:40 PM

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Actually im playing on it

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Yes laptop

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hahahaha

hazy sentinel Mar 21, 2018, 3:40 PM

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iirc you're playing celeste, right?

copper nacelle Mar 21, 2018, 3:42 PM

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thinkgrub

fair rampart Mar 21, 2018, 3:42 PM

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Yes, I am

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Mmmh... Is it possible to put all the charms at the same time with debug mod?

solemn rivet Mar 21, 2018, 4:01 PM

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never tried it...

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dunno tbh, maybe?

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if not, that's not hard to do yourself using the save editor

fair rampart Mar 21, 2018, 4:30 PM

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save editor?

solemn rivet Mar 21, 2018, 4:44 PM

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it's in pins

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https://github.com/KayDeeTee/Hollow-Knight-SaveManager/releases/latest

GitHub

KayDeeTee/Hollow-Knight-SaveManager

Hollow-Knight-SaveManager - Manage and edit Hollow Knight saves

fair rampart Mar 21, 2018, 8:36 PM

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Its easy to use, but how can I save the changes?

copper nacelle Mar 21, 2018, 8:36 PM

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save button?

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in the menu iirc

fair rampart Mar 21, 2018, 8:40 PM

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there are Backup, set save location, add folder and new savefile

copper nacelle Mar 21, 2018, 8:43 PM

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you have to open a file first?

fair rampart Mar 21, 2018, 8:45 PM

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?

copper nacelle Mar 21, 2018, 8:47 PM

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📎 unknown.png

fair rampart Mar 21, 2018, 8:49 PM

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I havent that button

📎 Captura_de_pantalla_15.png

copper nacelle Mar 21, 2018, 8:49 PM

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hit file

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(top left)

fair rampart Mar 21, 2018, 8:50 PM

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omg, reaaly? Im stupid

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hahaha, thank u so much

copper nacelle Mar 21, 2018, 8:50 PM

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yw

fair rampart Mar 21, 2018, 10:10 PM

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This is hilarious

📎 Captura_de_pantalla_16.png

ornate rivet Mar 21, 2018, 10:51 PM

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but you dont even need mods for this

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just use good old cheat engine

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thats how I beat the game

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intenseface

pearl sentinel Mar 22, 2018, 2:04 AM

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Reduced extra geo on enemies by about half.
Fixed mage knights from ambushing you at room entrance.
Added crystal guardian and laser beam miner.
Fixed slash spider (devout).
Optimized the randomization a bit.
Added toggle for custom enemies and added first custom enemy. (it's a surprise).
Added baulder and centipede hatcher. (Their spawns might be randomized)
Moved laser crawlers from under the ground, now they will rotate around in the air and at least be a threat.
Moved tiny spiders into the wall crawler category for randomization.
NOTE: This is a candidate build, it needs a bit of testing before I put it on the drive.
Added debug key to print the scene to modlogs for when testers/players encounter weird stuff (Press T)

📎 EnemyRandomizer_v0.1.4.zip

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ok... i think that's all

vagrant leaf Mar 22, 2018, 2:08 AM

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custom enemy

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re

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what enemy

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surprises are not tolerated here

pearl sentinel Mar 22, 2018, 2:09 AM

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it may or may not be related to the primal aspid

vagrant leaf Mar 22, 2018, 2:09 AM

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FUCK

pearl sentinel Mar 22, 2018, 2:09 AM

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also it might be a boss

vagrant leaf Mar 22, 2018, 2:09 AM

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F U C K

pearl sentinel Mar 22, 2018, 2:09 AM

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that's all i'll say for now

solemn rivet Mar 22, 2018, 2:09 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/327461802311155714/424784010602872844/423231990632808460.png

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dis

pearl sentinel Mar 22, 2018, 2:10 AM

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first iteration of this custom enemy

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we'll see how this goes

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Actually I wanna make that one day if possible

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This one is only slightly modified

ornate rivet Mar 22, 2018, 2:45 AM

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wait you added custom enemies to randomizer?

solemn rivet Mar 22, 2018, 2:47 AM

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singular

pearl sentinel Mar 22, 2018, 3:26 AM

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One right now, but creating it forced me to start the logic for custom enemies

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Also the foundation for randomizing parts of enemies

solemn rivet Mar 22, 2018, 3:27 AM

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parts

copper nacelle Mar 22, 2018, 3:27 AM

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how do you get an fsm from only its name

solemn rivet Mar 22, 2018, 3:27 AM

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what do you mean by "parts"?

rain cedar Mar 22, 2018, 3:28 AM

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You type the name into your search bar in explorer

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After dumping all the fsms

pearl sentinel Mar 22, 2018, 3:29 AM

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FSMUtility.LocateFSM (gameobject,"name")

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I think

solemn rivet Mar 22, 2018, 3:29 AM

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PlayMakerFSM fsm = FSMUtility.LocateFSM(gameobject,"fsmName");

copper nacelle Mar 22, 2018, 3:29 AM

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but what if I don't have a gameobject

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i think it's playmakerfsm.fsmlist.find

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which takes some weird predicate thing

pearl sentinel Mar 22, 2018, 3:30 AM

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Uh, the fsms are attached to a game object

solemn rivet Mar 22, 2018, 3:30 AM

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you need the game object

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you could iterate over objects in the scene until one has the desired fsm

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that's what most mods do (at least mine)

rain cedar Mar 22, 2018, 3:31 AM

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Use linq to find the gameobject with the right name

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Linq is cool

solemn rivet Mar 22, 2018, 3:31 AM

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Linq is powerful

pearl sentinel Mar 22, 2018, 3:32 AM

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Linq is cool

solemn rivet Mar 22, 2018, 3:32 AM

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I'm sadly not used to it yet

pearl sentinel Mar 22, 2018, 3:32 AM

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Pls don't abuse linq

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But it is cool

solemn rivet Mar 22, 2018, 3:32 AM

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I can use it to do some easy stuff, but nothing too complex

pearl sentinel Mar 22, 2018, 3:32 AM

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Oh, I made the first part of room randomizer today

solemn rivet Mar 22, 2018, 3:32 AM

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you mean, the logic for it, I assume?

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not the actual implementation

rain cedar Mar 22, 2018, 3:33 AM

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Probably the implementation

pearl sentinel Mar 22, 2018, 3:33 AM

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I made a script that turns a scene into a grid of open space/filled colliders

rain cedar Mar 22, 2018, 3:33 AM

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Nobody wants to do the logic

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It's shit

solemn rivet Mar 22, 2018, 3:33 AM

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huh

pearl sentinel Mar 22, 2018, 3:33 AM

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And exports that to a png

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A collision map

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Then added A* pathfinding to connect entrances using the grid

solemn rivet Mar 22, 2018, 3:34 AM

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that's an interesting approach

pearl sentinel Mar 22, 2018, 3:34 AM

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Idea being to import the collision maps and modify the A* to find paths

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Using a few rules for skills etc

rain cedar Mar 22, 2018, 3:34 AM

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That sounds like it would be hard to get right

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How about you do something easy instead? Like:
Run a player through the room 100000 times with random inputs and every combination of skills

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Would probably be done by 2025

pearl sentinel Mar 22, 2018, 3:36 AM

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The only thing I have to do is write the different cost functions for the A*

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Won't be perfect, but it'll probably be able to map the majority of rooms

solemn rivet Mar 22, 2018, 3:36 AM

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^

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should help mapping "straightforward" rooms

rain cedar Mar 22, 2018, 3:37 AM

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You would need to add a fuck load of special conditions to get it to map everything right

pearl sentinel Mar 22, 2018, 3:37 AM

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Probably

rain cedar Mar 22, 2018, 3:37 AM

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Even if you get it to where like 70% of the mapping is right it's just as much work to find the 30% that's wrong as it would be to just map everything

pearl sentinel Mar 22, 2018, 3:38 AM

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Maybe, but much more fun to play with pathfinding than manual mapping

solemn rivet Mar 22, 2018, 3:38 AM

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how would we even know the mapping is right tho?

rain cedar Mar 22, 2018, 3:38 AM

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Yeah can't argue with that

solemn rivet Mar 22, 2018, 3:38 AM

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we still have to manually check

copper nacelle Mar 22, 2018, 3:38 AM

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guess and check

rain cedar Mar 22, 2018, 3:38 AM

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Yes exactly

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That's why it's just as much work

pearl sentinel Mar 22, 2018, 3:38 AM

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The maps print the paths and collision maps to pngs

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You can see it visually for all paths and maps

solemn rivet Mar 22, 2018, 3:39 AM

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unless

rain cedar Mar 22, 2018, 3:39 AM

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I could see that being a lot less work, then

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Looking over images you can tell for the most part if something is right

solemn rivet Mar 22, 2018, 3:39 AM

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you could make the game actually test for you

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like if it finds a path, he actually spawns a knight and tries to do that path with it

rain cedar Mar 22, 2018, 3:40 AM

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That sounds hard

pearl sentinel Mar 22, 2018, 3:40 AM

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Maybe? Idk about having the cpu play it

young walrus Mar 22, 2018, 3:40 AM

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The only nice part about doing all rooms manually is that it's exhaustive for all possible scenarios, including skips

pearl sentinel Mar 22, 2018, 3:40 AM

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But that would be neat

solemn rivet Mar 22, 2018, 3:40 AM

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but it's kinda in the way kerr and mick were going with the record inputs thingy

pearl sentinel Mar 22, 2018, 3:41 AM

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Yeah, the A* won't get skips

rain cedar Mar 22, 2018, 3:41 AM

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Probably easier to just do stuff like steal the knight's jump arc from the game

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And dash distance

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Just use stuff like that in the pathfinding

pearl sentinel Mar 22, 2018, 3:41 AM

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That's kinda what I was thinking, something like that

rain cedar Mar 22, 2018, 3:42 AM

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It doesn't sound like you're getting stuff like breakable objects but you could also try to include those as jump modifiers

solemn rivet Mar 22, 2018, 3:42 AM

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it wouldn't account for pogoing off of enemies tho

rain cedar Mar 22, 2018, 3:42 AM

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Yeah fair point

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Too many special cases to think of

solemn rivet Mar 22, 2018, 3:43 AM

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yup

rain cedar Mar 22, 2018, 3:43 AM

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Just get the easy stuff

pearl sentinel Mar 22, 2018, 3:43 AM

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Yeah, I'm just going for basic paths, like, I don't think it would be possible for it to map path of pain

solemn rivet Mar 22, 2018, 3:43 AM

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at the very least, having a collision map with (some) paths drawn would be very neat

pearl sentinel Mar 22, 2018, 3:43 AM

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But all the normal areas should be possible

rain cedar Mar 22, 2018, 3:44 AM

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I wonder what the minimum for some of those path of pain rooms is

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It would be fun to get one right at the start if there's a way through any of them dashless

pearl sentinel Mar 22, 2018, 3:45 AM

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Now that would be mean

solemn rivet Mar 22, 2018, 3:45 AM

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I think I can remember a screen where you could possibly do it with claw and wings

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oh, no, there's a small gap you need to dash through at the end

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nvm

copper nacelle Mar 22, 2018, 3:47 AM

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so if I wanted to add a shockwave to stuff

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would I just have to load a scene with an enemy that has a shockwave?

rain cedar Mar 22, 2018, 3:48 AM

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The spell fsm is always there, try stealing the ddark side things

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That's shockwavey

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Probably pulls from some prefab idk

solemn rivet Mar 22, 2018, 3:48 AM

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do you mean the visual effect or the actual impact?

pearl sentinel Mar 22, 2018, 3:48 AM

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Some things are trickier I've found

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Like crystal guardian's laser beam

copper nacelle Mar 22, 2018, 3:49 AM

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like the actual impact

solemn rivet Mar 22, 2018, 3:49 AM

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if it's only the visual effect, should be easy

copper nacelle Mar 22, 2018, 3:49 AM

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trying to add it to the mantis slam thingy

solemn rivet Mar 22, 2018, 3:49 AM

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and which shockwave do you want to borrow from?

copper nacelle Mar 22, 2018, 3:49 AM

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any tbh

solemn rivet Mar 22, 2018, 3:50 AM

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you can try using the shadowRingsPrefab

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that's what I'd used for crit in earlier versions of bonfire

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it's the shockwave for when you're hit by a move that deals 2 damage

pearl sentinel Mar 22, 2018, 3:51 AM

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Oh thanks for the prefab reminder, I need to look through those again

solemn rivet Mar 22, 2018, 3:51 AM

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oh yeah

#

a prefab list would surely be handy

pearl sentinel Mar 22, 2018, 3:52 AM

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I did it when I started enemy randomizer looking for enemies and was sad to find none

#

I wonder if there's one for the boss Roar

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I was trying to steal crystal guardian's earlier

solemn rivet Mar 22, 2018, 3:54 AM

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no success, I assume?

pearl sentinel Mar 22, 2018, 3:55 AM

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The particle effect or animation is embedded in the Beam Miner state machine

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It'll take more fsms sleuthing to pull it out

copper nacelle Mar 22, 2018, 3:57 AM

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i just dropped 50 feet through an acid pool

solemn rivet Mar 22, 2018, 3:57 AM

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acid does that to you

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hollowwoke

pearl sentinel Mar 22, 2018, 3:58 AM

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Doing what?

copper nacelle Mar 22, 2018, 3:58 AM

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jumping into it

solemn rivet Mar 22, 2018, 3:58 AM

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did you accidentally remove the floor beneath it?

copper nacelle Mar 22, 2018, 3:59 AM

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i don't think so

rain cedar Mar 22, 2018, 4:00 AM

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Some acid/water doesn't have ground under it

pearl sentinel Mar 22, 2018, 4:09 AM

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Updated enemy randomizer link on google drive and github

copper nacelle Mar 22, 2018, 4:12 AM

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does it have that dump fsm thing now

pearl sentinel Mar 22, 2018, 4:13 AM

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oh, i mean, i have something, it's not great tho

#

what do you want specifically to do?

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i can paste the debug stuff for you

copper nacelle Mar 22, 2018, 4:13 AM

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list the fsms of an enemy

pearl sentinel Mar 22, 2018, 4:14 AM

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yeah, it can do that

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you'll want stuff from 2 files

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https://github.com/Kerr1291/EnemyRandomizer/blob/master/EnemyRandomizerDll/EnemyRandomizer/Extensions/GameObjectExtensions.cs

this function:
public static void PrintSceneHierarchyTree( this GameObject gameObject, bool printComponents = false )

GitHub

Kerr1291/EnemyRandomizer

EnemyRandomizer - Enemy Randomizer mod for Hollow Knight

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and most of these

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https://github.com/Kerr1291/EnemyRandomizer/blob/master/EnemyRandomizerDll/EnemyRandomizer/Extensions/ComponentExtensions.cs

GitHub

Kerr1291/EnemyRandomizer

EnemyRandomizer - Enemy Randomizer mod for Hollow Knight

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then call that Print with a true for print components

copper nacelle Mar 22, 2018, 4:15 AM

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ok

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thanks

pearl sentinel Mar 22, 2018, 4:16 AM

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example output will look something like this

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[INFO]:[EnemyRandomizer] - ComponentExtensions.PrintTransform(Component c, String componentHeader) ::::                                         \--Transform Position: (36.4, 14.6, 0.0)
[INFO]:[EnemyRandomizer] - ComponentExtensions.PrintTransform(Component c, String componentHeader) ::::                                         \--Transform Rotation: (0.0, 0.0, 0.0)
[INFO]:[EnemyRandomizer] - ComponentExtensions.PrintTransform(Component c, String componentHeader) ::::                                         \--Transform LocalScale: (1.0, 1.0, 1.0)
[INFO]:[EnemyRandomizer] - ComponentExtensions.PrintComponentType(Component c, String componentHeader) ::::                                         \--Component: MeshFilter
[INFO]:[EnemyRandomizer] - ComponentExtensions.PrintComponentType(Component c, String componentHeader) ::::

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er

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wrong part

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[INFO]:[EnemyRandomizer] - ComponentExtensions.PrintComponentType(Component c, String componentHeader) ::::                                         \--Component: PlayMakerFSM
[INFO]:[EnemyRandomizer] - ComponentExtensions.PrintPlayMakerFSM(Component c, String componentHeader) ::::                                         \--PFSM Name: FSM
[INFO]:[EnemyRandomizer] - ComponentExtensions.PrintPlayMakerFSM(Component c, String componentHeader) ::::                                         \--PFSM FsmDescription: 
[INFO]:[EnemyRandomizer] - ComponentExtensions.PrintPlayMakerFSM(Component c, String componentHeader) ::::                                         \--PFSM StateNames
[INFO]:[EnemyRandomizer] - ComponentExtensions.PrintPlayMakerFSM(Component c, String componentHeader) ::::                                         \----PFSM StateName: Initiate
[INFO]:[EnemyRandomizer] - ComponentExtensions.PrintPlayMakerFSM(Component c, String componentHeader) ::::                                         \----PFSM ---- Transitions for state: Transition on FINISHED to state Reset Rotation?
[INFO]:[EnemyRandomizer] - ComponentExtensions.PrintPlayMakerFSM(Component c, String componentHeader) ::::                                         \----PFSM ---- Actions for state: Actions on Initiate ::: GetOwner
[INFO]:[EnemyRandomizer] - ComponentExtensions.PrintPlayMakerFSM(Component c, String componentHeader) ::::                                         \----PFSM ---- Actions for state: Actions on Initiate ::: AudioPlayerOneShotSingle

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use

public static HutongGames.PlayMaker.FsmState GetFSMState( this GameObject gameObject, string stateName, string fsmName = "" )

to easily get and edit a state

or

public static T GetFSMActionOnState<T>( this GameObject gameObject, string actionName, string stateName, string fsmName = "" ) where T : HutongGames.PlayMaker.FsmStateAction

to get/edit an action (or the plural version if there's multiple)

copper nacelle Mar 22, 2018, 4:19 AM

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alright

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found the fsm happygrub

pearl sentinel Mar 22, 2018, 4:20 AM

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example of editing an action to change how far primal aspid flies from you:

            HutongGames.PlayMaker.Actions.DistanceFly df = newEnemy.GetFSMActionOnState<HutongGames.PlayMaker.Actions.DistanceFly>("Distance Fly","spitter");
df.distance.Value *= 1.5f;

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i've had very little time to clean anything up, so sorry for the mess

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i did make a coponent to print the states of something at runtime, including when it transitions and what events cause it to transition

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if you snag the DebugOnWake class from

https://github.com/Kerr1291/EnemyRandomizer/blob/master/EnemyRandomizerDll/EnemyRandomizer/EnemyRandomizerLoader.cs

and use the function in that file

public DebugOnWake AddDebugOnWake( GameObject enemy, string fsmName = "", List<string> wakeEvents = null, Vector2? customColliderSize = null )

and set


public bool monitorFSMStates = false;

to true, it will print all the live state info on an object

copper nacelle Mar 22, 2018, 4:24 AM

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woah

pearl sentinel Mar 22, 2018, 4:24 AM

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it's still a work in progress, but it's how i've fixed most of the broken fsms so far

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since you can see where the fsm gets stuck

lusty barn Mar 22, 2018, 1:50 PM

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Btw I’m in full support of an orbiting vessel mod

solemn rivet Mar 22, 2018, 2:05 PM

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how would that work?

copper nacelle Mar 22, 2018, 5:32 PM

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tfw the on-screen modlog is cut off

pearl sentinel Mar 22, 2018, 5:35 PM

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I switched to running tail -f | grep whatever on the modlogs

copper nacelle Mar 22, 2018, 5:35 PM

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wait no it isn't

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or is it

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it was cut off but now it's not i think

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setting a message to appear every frame was a mistake

pearl sentinel Mar 22, 2018, 5:38 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/410959305857171468/410959405413302272/13.jpg

vagrant leaf Mar 22, 2018, 5:38 PM

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that's a folly

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not a mistake

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smh

copper nacelle Mar 22, 2018, 5:38 PM

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📎 unknown.png

young walrus Mar 22, 2018, 5:38 PM

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smh my head

vagrant leaf Mar 22, 2018, 5:38 PM

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shaking my head my head

pearl sentinel Mar 22, 2018, 5:38 PM

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I just copy from the zote mistake channel, blame zote

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He should sanitize his mistakes zote

copper nacelle Mar 22, 2018, 5:39 PM

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lol

buoyant wasp Mar 22, 2018, 5:45 PM

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the problem with tail

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at least if you use WSL is that tail locks modlog