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#archived-modding-development
cunning basalt
solemn rivet
wait
willow path
hmm
I was using 1.2.2.1, at least that's what the old zip file in my mod folder says
young walrus
1.2.2.1 is correct
but your version was way behind
1.2.2.1-23 <<<< 1.2.2.1-37
14 versions behind to be exact. 
willow path
they must have swapped it out sometime in the google doc at some point
young walrus
the drive is updated constantly
willow path
i know
young walrus
with the most recent version
young walrus
yeah, that's the point.
so people can't download old versions
cuz there's no reason to
willow path
so it's hard to tell when it does change
but the way it's currently done is good
it's just a little confusing either way
young walrus
well eventually, the "update available" will work as intended
willow path
yep
young walrus
but that won't happen until G+G is out
willow path
also just a suggestion, when you upload the next version just add a little v. 38 after the patch number
at least until the update available works
cunning basalt
nice
pearl sentinel
well, enemy rando will hopefully be able to no have a slow loading menu after new dlc is out
but for now, it is what it is
pearl sentinel
Might actually have all the softlocks fixed. This build needs testing, but if it's stable then the mod can move into alpha. If you hit a softlock, please let me know!
Also, items like the mask shard from brooding mawlek should now be obtainable. If there's nothing there after you kill the randomized/replaced enemy, leave the room and come back and the item reward should be there. (Works for brooding mawlek, needs testing for things like shrumal ogres)
This build doesn't remove gates so... fingers crossed
well, i got halfway though colloseum 2 before softlock
so... you can almost do a full enemy rando colloseum
trying colloseum 1 out now, it's almost like it's not randomized: https://puu.sh/zBk8n/9667cd5536.jpg
and now he's just gonna hang around for the rest of the waves i guess
yeah, so it seems like if the bug leaves a corpse, it's likely to softlock rn in colloseum
gonna try making a corpse cleanup script later
was fun for a few waves though
ironically, my last attempt i spawned god tamer on 2nd wave and that softlocked me
weary junco
Not familiar with modding, but would love to play your mod, do you have a guide for implementing it?
@pearl sentinel
pearl sentinel
Yeah, check out the pins. My mod isn't stable yet, so there's no tool to install it, so make sure you use debug mod with it in case you get stuck.
Also, at work rn so answering questions or providing help is going to be very limited
pearl sentinel
I didn't think royal waterways could get worse, but I just randomized my game and every flukeman is now a grub mimic.
I had 2 on me within 5 seconds og entering
fair rampart
What's the difference? They're all disgusting, loud creatures
pearl sentinel
Yep
fair rampart
Ah
Yeah okay that is worse
(I need to get a randomizer at some point it sounds like fun. After I actually get a 106% though...)
pearl sentinel
Lucky randomizer gave me descending dark early, so I've been ok so far
fair rampart
Gg? How'd you get that early lol
pearl sentinel
Randomizer mod
fair rampart
I mean does it spawn instead of a different spell?
fair rampart
Huh
fair rampart
Lmao
salubra is the seer
pearl sentinel
Good news so far is I've done like half a run without a softlock
fair rampart
I can see that possibly bricking the game though if say, you can't get the vengeful spirit or a mantis claw in the crossroads
young walrus
There's code to prevent that
pearl sentinel
randomizer does things to prevent softlock
pearl sentinel
Enemy rando still messes up in colloseum, but I figure that'll stay broken until after the dlc
fair rampart
(Code ain't my strength by a log shot)
pearl sentinel
But I think I might have a stable alpha this week with the way this build is going
Finally
fair rampart
Still, seems a fun way to play around with it all
Might give it a shot when it goes up
Or maybe not because I'm still getting whooped by Hornet 2
fair rampart
Oh gg
I like the kingsmoulds, they're a cool enemy
Too bad you only fight like, 6 of them I think
pearl sentinel
They're very scary when you mix them with other enemies
fair rampart
I can imagine
pearl sentinel
Drop a couple in city of tears and it's real city of tears
fair rampart
Good area coverage and a moveset, toss on double damage for fun™
pearl sentinel
Hah. Dung defender gave me ismas tear
fair rampart
Well that's fitting in a kind of sad way
Oh are things like mask shards randomized too?
pearl sentinel
Nope
fair rampart
Aww
Though I guess that one might be slightly harder to do since they kinda have their own way of uh, being around
pearl sentinel
Holy fuck, all the hoppers in kingdom's edge are lesser mawleks
And the primal aspids changed into armored colloseum mosquitoes
fair rampart
XD
Well that area became less terrifying...
So what, does it basically swap each enemy "species" with another enemy "species" that fits the type? (So flying things stay flying things and such)
Or does it swap each individual enemy independently-wait hat's a stupid question
That's*
pearl sentinel
Yeah just some simple rule swapping like with some more interesting rules coming later
fair rampart
Ooooo
Oh god I just imagined what might happen if the basic bugs of normal crossroads turned into kingsmoulds...
Rip the new game xD
pearl sentinel
Well, that's why I give options
fair rampart
True true
fair rampart
Is there a way to block/blacklist PlaymakerFSM.BroadcastEvent("...") From calling/activating those events? Looking for a way to prevent the player from healing via focus, and that is triggered by a BroadcastEvent of "FOCUS COMPLETE" or something similar, and there isn't any hooks for non-blue health.
leaden hedge
theres a pretty easy way to prevent that
by setting the flag in the healing fsm
to make it so the game thinks your absorbing a dreamer/hollow knight
theres also a life changed hook which im pretty sure you can use
fair rampart
Healing fsm? Unless API 1.2.2.1-37 is depreciated, I don't see a LifeChangeHook?
solemn rivet
I use one in bonfire... What's it called again?
In a more roundabout way, you can set the heal timer to be as long as you need, and also make it heal no masks to you
Not the most direct approach, but I think it would work
Or, the best way, you could override the heal function
fair rampart
I couldn't see anything relating to a heal timer or a heal amount - override which heal function? The HeroController.AddHealth() function?
waxen cobalt
Hey guys, I'm new here. Just downloaded boss rush mod by KDT, how do I install?
waxen cobalt
Thanks
waxen cobalt
Found a glitch in boss rush, when challenging the mantis lords you can move in the challenge pose and go outside the arena
hazy sentinel
you can do that in the base game
solemn rivet
Base rule for mod bug reporting: unless it's bonfire, that's a vanilla bug
hazy sentinel
game has bugs lol
young walrus
Every screen
exotic venture
is this a bug?
young walrus
new bug, who dis
exotic venture
idk man you tell me
frigid gale
Hmmm
Anyone know how to work the Debug mod?
Nowhere seems to mention it's menu toggle
frigid gale
hmm
Seem to got the modding api correct but not the contents of the actual mod folder
copper nacelle
what
frigid gale
Excatly
copper nacelle
exactly imo
young walrus
what does the top left of the main menu say
frigid gale
Modding API: 1.2.2.1-37
young walrus
and nothing else?
frigid gale
nooop
young walrus
then the mod isn't installed
copper nacelle
^
frigid gale
lel
copper nacelle
what
hazy sentinel
the hend eis righ
frigid gale
now the contents of the mod folder or the folder et self
copper nacelle
wot
frigid gale
yeeees
frigid gale
Gad This is like payday 2 modding
young walrus
or just use the installer
hazy sentinel
Gad This is like non-native English speaker
young walrus
it does everything for you
hazy sentinel
oof
frigid gale
Fuck My Ass et not showin' up.
copper nacelle
try
young walrus
show us a screen shot
copper nacelle
using the installer
hazy sentinel
wrong download
young walrus
oh that's why
frigid gale
yeet
hazy sentinel
boi
frigid gale
mai boi
hazy sentinel
🅱oogle 🅱rive
young walrus
Crossroads: Mod Loader for Hollow Knight (Alpha v.41, Windows 7/10 support)
This application allows for automatic installation and uninstallation of mods for Hollow Knight. Simply run this application and after it loads, select the mods you wish to install/uninstall and click "Apply Changes".
If it does not automatically detect your Hollow Knight game folder, use the button to navigate to the folder and select it manually.
Any mod dependencies will be downloaded automatically. If a mod conflicts with another mod, that mod will be uninstalled before installing the new mod.
Use the "Backup Saves" button to backup your hollow knight saves and the "Restore Saves" button to restore your hollow knight saves.
https://github.com/Kerr1291/Crossroads/releases/download/v00.41/Crossroads_v.41.zip
hazy sentinel
bibba 56 shilling installer harder than 753 shills lightbringer
copper nacelle
or any of the pins wtf
that's cause the installer is good
and then this doesn't happen
hazy sentinel
what if people knew how to follow instructions
young walrus
then I would be far more bored at work
hazy sentinel
oof
copper nacelle
lmao
young walrus
no matter how good your SOP or instructions are, people will not follow them
exotic venture
people will fuck up if they can't install it with the press of a button
and even then they find ways to fuck up
young walrus
^
frigid gale
lol
I wish to become modder but rn I'm lazy.
Eh just have other people do et for me XD
solar oyster
i'm so scared about ruining a game's code with mods that i read the instructions 10 times over just to make sure i dont destroy everything
pearl sentinel
If steam didn't have "verify integrity of game files"
river eagle
Remember that no matter what, you can't permanently destroy anything
As long as you have backups of your save files
young walrus
backs up save files
still permanently destroys his marriage
profit?
copper nacelle
should've backed up your marriage
tame panther
so i just got some mods and my saves were deleted (doesn't really matter to me, finished game anyway) but i have a question
how do i uninstall them, like would deleting the file mess up the code?
and if the game is weird like i just said should i just vertify the integrity of the files to fix it?
trim grove
the mods only affect the game when they are loaded, just remove the mod dlls and replace the old api dll with the main game one
or just nuke the whole install and reinstall. same effect ¯_(ツ)_/¯
tame panther
ok just making sure
trim grove
also the saves might still be there, some mods hide the saves
tame panther
k
after gods and glory comes out i was planning on playing through the game again.
if i could do it on my original save that would be good though
i think the save might just be hidden since steel soul mode is still unlocked
trim grove
they are saved outside of the hk install so you dont gotta worry about messing with that
tame panther
so the boss rush mod has random charms/spells/abilties to pick and i saw gameplay from previous versions with a point system
why did they switch from the point system? the random thing is really annoying since i didn't get any abilities until the second round of bosses
also i get a lot of charms, but i don't know how to equip them
dying only adds like one or two of your charms
hazy sentinel
they switched because the old boss rush mod was taken down
hollow pier
they switched because kdt is a bad modder
hazy sentinel
Kein DMCA'd it
hollow pier
its fun to stay at the dmca
solemn rivet
The maker of the old boss rush dmca'd so we had to take it down and redo it
hazy sentinel
wow thanks for the answer
young walrus
And all the charms you pick are auto equipped
solemn rivet
Poor veru
young walrus
And if you don't take damage, you can pick 2 of the 3
solemn rivet
I actually trust veru more than I trust myself tbf
Also, bossrush simply hides your saves, not doing anything to them, so don't worry, they're still there
pearl sentinel
what if i randomly replace the worms (ghoams?) with white palace buzz saws
neat? y/n
hollow pier
do they move
hollow pier
imo replace all the saws in wp with goams
hollow pier
yes would you do that
pearl sentinel
for science and/or fun
solemn rivet
Kek
pearl sentinel
who doesn't want to be walking around and hear the cheerful buzzing
solemn rivet
"fun"
hollow pier
replace grimmchild with a saw
solemn rivet
I like your idea of fun
pearl sentinel
...
hollow pier
make him shoot saws
pearl sentinel
could probably make a rotating buzzsaw shield
more effective than the defensive shield
solemn rivet
Instead of dream shield, you have a rotating buzzsaw around you
solemn rivet
Why not make the saw a payable character at this point?
pearl sentinel
saw dash
hollow pier
lightbringer but instead of lances its saws
pearl sentinel
pretty stable
colloseum doesn't work, but played half the game with it without a softlock
copper nacelle
"SuperAlpha"
trim grove
no trial of the fool? what good is it!
copper nacelle
"stable"
trim grove
heh. first area doesnt much like the laser guys
copper nacelle
laser guys sometimes go through walls
usually don't tho
they're really cool when they aren't in walls tho
the lasers work and everything
trim grove
yeah, they seem to be 'working', just cant actually hit me with the whole being inside walls
pearl sentinel
oh, the laser crawlers are kinda busted, they tend to spawn in the walls rn
i need to move em out
fair rampart
oh god common enemies replaced with myla is scarring
pearl sentinel
the actual mounted fixed lasers work great tho
trim grove
hm. what a room
trim grove
chaos mode?
pearl sentinel
go to Options > Enemy Randomizer in menu
can only have one of those options at a time on, if both are on then chaos mode will be used
trim grove
whats room mode do.. randomize room tranisitions? lol
pearl sentinel
no
copper nacelle
different enemies per room
trim grove
ahh
pearl sentinel
it's a happy medium between normal and chaos
trim grove
and chaos is
copper nacelle
chaos mode is that but it the room changes every time you go in it
pearl sentinel
basically, normal and room = your game is randomized but predictable
pearl sentinel
chaos = gg
copper nacelle
chaos = best mode
trim grove
ui didnt go away reee
copper nacelle
open menu
go to settings again
hit back with mouse
iirc
that's how I fixed it
trim grove
oof, double settings menu
but yeah
oh. zote
kek
and gruz mother
truely, the power of randomizer
copper nacelle
truly
trim grove
oof walls. greatest weakness
fair rampart
fighting two god tamers simultaneously in fungal :^)
pearl sentinel
did you hit any softlocks with the new version?
(anyone that has tried it)
i think i might move the next release to alpha
pearl sentinel
woo, i'm gonna continue my halfway game from last night and see how it goes. there's still stuff to fix but nothing (i think) major enough to keep it unstable
pearl sentinel
oh right.... in my game all the hoppers in kings edge got rando'd into lesser mawleks
rip me
last pre-alpha, most likely. slightly fixed the crawler enemies spawning in the ground
if anyone experiences mantises spontaneously exploding into geo
i would love a log file from you
pearl sentinel
Gruz mother just spawned all primal aspids. This is the worst timeline
Oh. If you see weird red lines sometimes in v13, I left a debug line turned on
ornate rivet
tame panther
just beat boss rush
young walrus
tame panther
i got lucky and got mothwing and monarch from false knight (no damage) and then i just kept getting nail upgrades and more abilites
i felt like i was cheating since I had almost all of the charms in the game for nightmare king grimm on the last round (he was the last boss i faced)
p fun though
rustic stag
Does anyone know a way to override vanilla assets (textures specifically) through the API rather than just replacing them?
leaden hedge
theres no way through the api persay
you can find a object and just replace the texture on it
rustic stag
Doesn't necessarily have to be through the API, just a way that doesn't involve changing the original game's files. I wanted to create an easy install/uninstall process.
young walrus
don't think one exists
rustic stag
Really? I mean you can build the dll with files inside (images, asset bundles, etc.)
I feel like Unity should have some way to override a texture at runtime.
leaden hedge
it doesn't
you'll have to replace it at runtime
the internal filesystem of unity is known to be obtuse
solemn rivet
Is there a way to change the game's texts (like item descriptions) instead of extracting, editing and attaching the edited file with the mod?
rain cedar
Actually there's no hook, randomizer just modifies the data in the resources at runtime
leaden hedge
pretty sure there is a hook
boss rush uses it
public override void Initialize(){
//stuff
ModHooks.Instance.LanguageGetHook += PromptOverride;
//stuff
}
public string PromptOverride(string key, string sheet)
{
if (key == "KDT_SUPER")
return "Thanks";
if (key == "KDT_MAIN")
return "for";
if (key == "KDT_SUB")
return "Playing!";
if (key == "INSPECT")
return "";
if (key == "item0")
return BossInfo.itemName(0);
if (key == "item1")
return BossInfo.itemName(1);
if (key == "item2")
return BossInfo.itemName(2);
return Language.Language.GetInternal(key, sheet);
}
Is joke
copper nacelle
lol
solemn rivet
I been bamboozled
copper nacelle
why not a switch case
leaden hedge
why not a hashtable
vagrant leaf
a dictionary has every word in a language and their definitions 
copper nacelle
also wouldn't you need a default thingy
would you just check if it's in the table and if it's not return the default?
copper nacelle
both
leaden hedge
well a dictionary is an associative array, hash table is an type of associative array
it depends on the language what a dictionary actually is
i think in c# dicts are hashtables
copper nacelle
neat
quiet heart
what thing should i be using for mods? i checked the pins and there's a bunch of things
copper nacelle
kerr's installer if you use a lot of non-api mods or want an installer w/ save backups
gradow's installer if you want a lightweight installer
manual if you want to I guess ¯_(ツ)_/¯
quiet heart
what do you mean by lightweight?
vagrant leaf
Manual > all
quiet heart
no u
quiet heart
ah
noble trout
where is the file mod for enemy randomizer?
pearl sentinel
Just search for files from me in this channel
pearl sentinel
Same as version 13, but removed the debug print line i had accidently left in
fair rampart
husk zombie arena in deepnest is a softlock
hollow pier
how will you ever save zote
pearl sentinel
Husk zombie arena in deepnest?
solemn rivet
husk zombie are the spiders that come from corpses, I assume?
pearl sentinel
I just don't remember any places in deepnest that lock
versed anvil
Make a mod that makes every enemy zote
young walrus
go for it
pearl sentinel
i'm going to have a full list of all the randomizable enemies
so you will be able to fully customize your experience
so if you want all zote... you can have all zote
never want to see a primal aspid? turn it off
i'm doing a big code refactor/cleanup right now for the first official alpha tho
pearl sentinel
but the option list will probably be in not long after
stoic pawn
I must get rid of Primal Aspid
hidden cedar
guy pls can some one say me where can i found boss rush mod with merchant and bench
i just looking for smth to boss practice
and boss rush mod what i found here is a bit not what i want
would be better if i can make amulet build with not just random rewards
young walrus
make one then
cuz what you're asking for doesn't exist
if you want to practice the same boss over and over, use debug mod
hidden cedar
dude i see it on youtube and the link under video send me here
but ty for debug mod
should look what is it
young walrus
that boss rush doesn't exist anymre
rain cedar
More importantly
hidden cedar
ty anyway
rain cedar
What the fuck is an amulet build?
hidden cedar
combination of amulets i mean
rain cedar
There's no amulets in this game
hearty willow
in all seriousness it's probably the best mod i've played for any game
that might be bias towards hollow knight itself though 
charred parrot
having trouble viewing FSMs with the FSM viewer
buoyant obsidian
Yeah Hollow Knight is a hell of a game, kinda hard to go wrong when what you're starting with is gold
hearty willow
absolutely fantastic work nonetheless
charred parrot
I've renamed the json file to data but it's not popping up in the viewer
ya hollow knight is a 10/10 game
only a few issues I have with it honestly
charred parrot
ah
that did it
thanks
knew I was forgetting something
trying to figure out how the hell they set up Enemy Knockback
look at this spaghetti
rain cedar
What fsm is this?
charred parrot
it's titled Hopper,Hopper (2),recoil,FGBJGA
was walking around Kingdoms Edge
assuming this is just an FSM tied to the second Hopper that was spawned in
charred parrot
like why is there a left and a right?
surely there is a way to check the relative positons of the enemy and the knight
actually no
I KNOW there is a way
copper nacelle
because bad
rain cedar
To be fair you can also hit the big dudes in peak from behind by just up attacking
Not like this game is well made
Just well designed
copper nacelle
that's not a feature?
charred parrot
ya I've been going through FSMs and code trying to figure out how things were pieced together
games good
wanna know how it's made
copper nacelle
🍝
charred parrot
even with my limited programming knowledge
which is VERY limited
I can see this is some spicy stuff
which is the spiciest FSM in the game?
I want to see the worst
rain cedar
The hollow knight boss fsm is the worst I've seen
charred parrot
jesus
can you send it to me
Id need to physically go there in-game to get the file
not down
copper nacelle
rain cedar
Oh this isn't that bad
copper nacelle
👀
fucking lagged emacs in json-mode
the trick is to not use json-mode or you die instantly
rain cedar
The trick is to not use emacs
copper nacelle
❌
rain cedar
✅
copper nacelle
it loads fine w/out 84105 lines of indent guides and highlighting
it loads fine w/ the stuff
I just tried to scroll down by scrolling down 99999999 lines at once
slightly bad idea
rain cedar
Nice
charred parrot
going to assume there are a bunch of global transitions on top of each as well
charred parrot
I feel like theres a better way of going about this
why not set up an Array?
and run through the indexs?
to whatever you need
rain cedar
I found it
copper nacelle
what the fuck
rain cedar
HK boss
charred parrot
plz send file
rain cedar
I don't have a file, I just found the picture from the last time I posted it here
copper nacelle
hk boss control?
charred parrot
couldnt they at least separate these sections into smaller fsms?
rain cedar
Oh god
charred parrot
so they could keep track of wtf is going on
rain cedar
Now I'm just imagining like 20 fsms sending global events to communicate
charred parrot
is that HK?
copper nacelle
is radiance's control better
copper nacelle
what's radiance called
rain cedar
Radiance
copper nacelle
tfw not a boss control
re
attack choices and commands in seperate files
rip spaghetti dreams
yeah it isn't spaghetti
charred parrot
honestly its just way easier in general to make flying enemy AI
dont need to bother with surrounding environment
charred parrot
Radiance itself doesnt need to interact with squat
charred parrot
dont need to make AI if the boss doesnt do anything
insert pic of guy pointing to forehead
copper nacelle
rain cedar
Dang, beat me to it
rain cedar
Probably basically nothing
charred parrot
literally just getting ~6 positions
and spawns in one of the enemies every couple of seconds
stoic pawn
That’s like 2 times more
copper nacelle
amazing
charred parrot
so I'm guessing like 2 branches
one branch to spawn in one
another to spawn in two
boss done
call it a day
stoic pawn
gg ez
charred parrot
award winning game complete
stoic pawn
How to make one of the best games I’ve ever played
charred parrot
dude I don't even know if he actually has sprites where he squishes himself
stoic pawn
And die
charred parrot
I think it's just a scale change
stoic pawn
“So what should we do when he spawns an enemy” “oh yeah just make em a wee bit smaller”
charred parrot
oh sorry he doesnt even do that
he has a 1 second-ish loop of animation
and when he dies it plays faster for a bit
10/10 BEST GAME BEST GAME 10/10
stoic pawn
I don’t know whether that’s lazy or genius
charred parrot
boss is a meme
copper nacelle
lmfao
charred parrot
imo probably one of the most poorly designed parts of the game is that boss
if you have the nail upgrade
copper nacelle
or dive cheese
stoic pawn
It’s like the path of pain but somehow worse
copper nacelle
PoP is fun tho
stoic pawn
All fun and games until the final part
copper nacelle
in PoP?
charred parrot
not pray but there is some dickish timing
honestly the worst part about this game IMO
copper nacelle
re
charred parrot
DISCLAIMER: this game is amazing, but there are some parts that are disappointing
is that it has the tendency to build up hype and tension
but then drop it like a sack of bricks
its good at setting up expectations but doesn't follow through with them
examples include
Dreamers not being actual Bosses
Weavers Den not having a spider boss
Queen's Garden not having a boss at all
copper nacelle
traitor lord doesn't count
charred parrot
Not fighting the giant bee in the background of the Hive
IT DOESNT COUNT
its a bigger mantis
thats it
copper nacelle
accurate
charred parrot
if you watched that ~1hour review of HK on youtube
the dude makes a ton of good points
copper nacelle
i did
charred parrot
most I agree with
copper nacelle
joseph anderson is the best reviewer
thorn comet
👀
rain cedar
So basically all your complaints sum to "There should be more bosses"
rain cedar
The hive and dreamers I expected to be bosses
charred parrot
but doesnt follow through on it
copper nacelle
didn't expect anything for hive/deepnest bc idk
but I thought the dreamers were going to be like super cool bosses
so I avoided them
charred parrot
I know one guy
who literally went through everything else in the game
except killing the dreamers
since he thought they'd be super tough fights
he literally got to their bodies and decided to come back later when more prepared
copper nacelle
oof
charred parrot
when I told them they're basically planks of wood he didnt believe me
rain cedar
Yeah, maybe it was planned but they ended up not having the time for it
charred parrot
it's likely thats the case, but it's a fault of the game nonetheless
thorn comet
Also we still have 'Remastered' and G&G don't forget
and yeah true
charred parrot
I'm really hoping G&G fixes some of these issues
rain cedar
It'll likely just be add-on side content like the last two expansions
charred parrot
probably
which is a bit of a shame IMO
but ya that's my major complaint about the game
some areas feel a bit underdeveloped compared to others
but it's not too bad
young walrus
lol
rain cedar
That's just a side effect of them making such a huge game world, I think
Too much to be all as high quality as it could be
charred parrot
I mean yes but again it's a fault regardless. The inability for TC to plan and time things properly to be able to give each area the same amount of quality is still something you can criticize.
Sonic 06 is the video game equivalent of a garbage fire because of poor planning.
rain cedar
Yeah man I'm saying this more as an explanation than an excuse
charred parrot
then ya I agree
idle fern
Oh yeah, its a fair complaint. Not arguing against it, but yeah not too bad for their first game hey, and a team of 2-3
charred parrot
you telling me they couldnt just divide by mitosis to make copies of themselves?
and make the game better?
copper nacelle
lmao
charred parrot
2-3 random no-name Australian game devs made a more complete experience than teams of 100+ game developers from well known gaming companies.
they did good
rain cedar
Well the thing with big game devs is they're all working for money, not because they want to make a good game
copper nacelle
some game devs still care tbf
charred parrot
the whole situation with AAA games is kind of odd
rain cedar
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charred parrot
Games are such big investments nowadays (for game companies to make) that deviating from focus-group tested systems and experiences is super risky
indie devs are shinning because they're able to innovate
copper nacelle
no risk no reward
rain cedar
That's not true, though
copper nacelle
sadly
otherwise games would be innovative all the time
no risk no significant improvement in reward usually
:/
charred parrot
I think hollow knight should add in loot boxes
instead of charms being picked up at their normal spots
you get a box
and you get a random charm
via a slot-machine UI
but if you want
you can give real money
to get the box for free
rain cedar
Pay money to get it free 🤔
charred parrot
exactly
marketing genius
they should also have a season pass
for their free dlc
copper nacelle
delet
charred parrot
and they should make the game 3D
copper nacelle
charred parrot
and add in a shooting component
and make it multiplayer
well call it
Bugwars Battlefront II
charred parrot
no but you will be able to pay
copper nacelle
you can buy geo for real money
charred parrot
to remove the lag
we'll call it
input delay
you buy a consumable that removes it for a period of time
obviously it goes away after a while
so they have to buy more 😃
copper nacelle
re
pearl sentinel
I had a dream sean/wyza got the release early to patch the api..... I think I've been doing too much modding
Or I'm just excited for the dlc
Probably both
buoyant obsidian
or there's a conspiracy here and you're on to something
rare flax
Hey is there any Hollow Knight mod that randomizes the enemies? (Swaps out enemies for others.) I've seen a few videos showing random enemy placements and I was curious and downloaded the randomizer mod. Turns out it only randomizes charms and abilities.
nvm I was able to go into some old chat things and find a link
I got it
buoyant obsidian
You may want to pair it with debug mod while it's still pre alpha
pearl sentinel
^
young walrus
allow you to escape softlocks
pearl sentinel
I might grab the noclip code from debug and include it into enemy rando, just to simply things a bit
pearl sentinel
hollow pier
welcome back gradow
solemn rivet
discord has been super shifty with me these past days
first refusing to tag someone, then opening up multiple instances with a single click, and now... I'm back in 1969
those were the good old days
solemn rivet
I mean... If there hadn't been more than 50 messages since 6⃣9⃣ , then this channel would be better off dead
hollow pier
a message a year
solemn rivet
this just goes to show that not only HK, but also modding in general, is timeless
solemn rivet
the good ol'days
young walrus
can confirm, am from future, HK is timeless
heavy trench
Oof
stiff bane
nice meme
light tree
pretty much every game of similar structure that goes through development has those areas that feel a lot more unfinished than the rest because of deadlines and stuff, it's no surprise that areas like the hive, the abyss and weaver's den feel barren because they are all end-game areas while the early areas and some mid areas are so amazing
rain cedar
So I noticed a while ago that every version check attempt in the API fails with this error
System.Net.WebException: Error getting response stream (Write: The authentication or decryption has failed.)
Trying to fix it now but none of the solutions on google are working
Anyone have experience with this?
leaden hedge
didnt github recently remove a part of their api for version checking
rain cedar
I have no idea
Seems like whatever got removed isn't relevant
Since going to the link the version check would use in browser works fine
As far as I can tell from just looking up the error it's a problem with Unity
Doesn't have any certificates to check against so it just says everything is invalid or something like that
rain cedar
If that's part of the build process in visual studio then that would explain it
Since that doesn't fully finish for me
It breaks at some point but the dll is still made so I figured no big deal
The error is some nonsense like this because for some reason it's evaluating what seems to be a full program as one line
Nobody got time to figure out where in there it's going wrong
buoyant wasp
I'm away at my parents this weekend but I will look into it when I get back
The github certs are in the VS project so they should be there unless the certs changed. Its annoying that Unity doesn't ship with the normal CAs
https://github.com/seanpr96/HollowKnight.Modding/blob/master/Assembly-CSharp/github.crt this is the cert it loads
And the other one with a 2 in it
buoyant wasp
Well the code that does the work is in the loader if memory serves
rain cedar
Nah it's in ModHooks
I put a try catch around that already and no errors
Could be the certificates just aren't valid anymore
buoyant wasp
Bleh
fiery sequoia
the boss health bar mod - is it up to date and where is it?
rain cedar
Pinned messages
fiery sequoia
cant seem to find it
rain cedar
Literally the first pin
fiery sequoia
what name does it go under then? just "boss health bars" and im blind or a different name
rain cedar
KDT - HPBar
fiery sequoia
ah, ty
pearl sentinel
I did hp bars last weekend and it bugged our after fighting hornet. The empty bar stayed on my screen
fair rampart
How does setting PlayerData.<member variable> work? Trying to change the players health, but calls to set the heath/maxHealth var don't work (ie they don't change) I know for changing the nailDamage var you need a BroadcastFSM or whatever call, is there a call for each car or a general UPDATE call that needs to be made?
rain cedar
It's likely that the health is changing but the UI needs to be updated
fair rampart
I have the debug mod on, I have it now that the UI is changing but the health var is still the same
rain cedar
It's PlayerData.health you're modifying, right?
fair rampart
Yeah
rain cedar
Dunno, then
Could be that there's an fsm var you have to change
Try csharp HeroController.instance.proxyFSM.SendEvent("HeroCtrl-HeroDamaged");
fair rampart
@rain cedar
That did the trick. God this game is something, lol.
rain cedar
A bit, yeah
rain cedar
What's the idea behind the mod you're making? @fair rampart
fair rampart
Not quite sure tbh, mostly just seeing what is possible to do. Suppose trying to implement something similar to the Devil May Cry series's version of Heaven or Hell mode ie player and everything dies in 1 hit, but the player gets x Lives in between checkpoints.
rain cedar
Cool
zinc turret
i tried to install hpbar mod with the tool thing
just downloaded the file selected it pressed install it said it was successful
but i dont see no hp bar
oh
maybe the file path that needs to exist doesnt exist or something
im just silly
regal steppe
Hello, just wondering, how does the Boss Rush mode work? I installed it on GOG version 1.2.2.1 but I don't see it under extras or anything, do I have to go somewhere in-game to see if it installed succesfully?
rain cedar
It should just start boss rush if you try to start a new game
regal steppe
It didn't, I start in King's Pass in both Classic and Steel Soul modes
Do I really need the Modding API as well?
I'll try 1.2.1.4 version since k0cc4 said it also works with 1.2.2.1 in his video
rain cedar
Yes you need the api
zinc turret
somebody tell me how to control the menus in debug mod i need just one charm notch
you just press pause and click
okay thanks
zinc turret
yes
solemn rivet
and then thank yourself for helping you?
zinc turret
im abscent minded today dont judge me
silver pendant
does the bonfire mod work with the current version of the game?
graceful smelt
?rank speedrunner
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@graceful smelt, you joined Speedrunner.
graceful smelt
ok
silver pendant
got it working thanks
fiery sequoia
does healthbar work for grim
copper nacelle
yeah
fiery sequoia
doesn’t seem to
copper nacelle
it's working on other bosses?
fiery sequoia
for NKG it just stays the same color
hazy sentinel
gives you the notches salubra would sell you right when you get the required number of charms
fiery sequoia
ah
copper nacelle
in the fsms
charred parrot
not really getting it
copper nacelle
o
pearl sentinel
Enemy randomizer strikes again
rollers got replaced with colloseum armored rollers
pearl sentinel
TIL vengefly king will die if he dives into acid
fair rampart
Guys gruzzers take 5 hits to kill in hellmod is that normal?
They were taking 4 hits not too long ago
I think hellmod is resetting nail damage to 0
solemn rivet
Nail damage 0 doesn't even hit enemies
hollow pier
squaring better imo
fair rampart
I mean, the little babies aspid mom shoots take 2 hits to kill
copper nacelle
it should alternate between 1 and 2
iirc
that was happening to me too
you also can't one shot mushroom babies
solemn rivet
Those have 2hp iirc
Most 1hit enemies don't have 1hp
Baby flies, mushrooms and bees have at least 2hp iirc
copper nacelle
☑
fair rampart
Also don't go too hard on me for my terrible gameplay, I haven't played in a while and I was streaming with my terrible pc
Which meant aton of input delay
willow plover
There should be a mod that makes it so randomly the spikes from nightmare King Grimm will appear
hollow pier
tfw
copper nacelle
like anywhere?
leaden hedge
they don't work good outside the arena
solemn rivet
if you'd be satisfied with that happening during the NKG fight, there's always the NGG mod...
fair rampart
How do you enemy randomizer?
hollow pier
install the mod called enemy randomizer
fair rampart
Wheer
(By the way, i might need some help, you see, the only reason i actually haven't played off is because i can't download it right)
copper nacelle
install the stuff as described in pinned
and search for has:file from:Kerr
to get the files
fair rampart
What frost
hollow pier
cold temperatures
fair rampart
What firts
hollow pier
whomst is frisky
fair rampart
?
copper nacelle
except instead of installing the api by hand you can use kerr's installer
which is pinned
fair rampart
Describe mods pls
copper nacelle
what
fair rampart
DESCRIBE THEE MODS