archived-modding-development

[vagrant leaf]

like can you go around it

[young walrus]

no

[solemn rivet]

use debug and noclip

[young walrus]

there's a secret that goes to the spring entrance

but still need to go thru arena to get bottom right

[solemn rivet]

apparently everyone got that, 56

[copper nacelle]

neat

[solemn rivet]

in that same spot even

[copper nacelle]

my crossroads came pre-infected

[solemn rivet]

oh, btw

[pearl sentinel]

If you don't set a new seed, it's likely you're all using the default seed when you started

[young walrus]

wow, doesn't even seed randomize

[solemn rivet]

after I visited granpa grub all enemies in that area before him returned to vanilla

[pearl sentinel]

Lol. It's a very pre alpha :x

[vagrant leaf]

gonna have to get debug now and re-enable rando

re

[solemn rivet]

2 mod

[young walrus]

lol. it's not even alpha yet, it's before the alphabet

it's like... the breath you take in before speaking

[solemn rivet]

just disable the mod, go through that area, then re-enable it

[pearl sentinel]

Yeah debug with rando might save yiu some softlocks

[rose crown]

It randomizes every time you die?

[vagrant leaf]

can't wait till this is finished

it's so great already

[copper nacelle]

^

[solemn rivet]

^^

[rose crown]

^

[solemn rivet]

enabling debug then

[copper nacelle]

rip my game for 3 more minutes

[solemn rivet]

oh

do I have to do that every time?

[pearl sentinel]

All this info is great tho, gonna go back through and log all these issues

[copper nacelle]

atm you have to do it every time

[pearl sentinel]

You do, until I figure out a way to serialize fsms

[solemn rivet]

just write them down by hand

one-by-one

[pearl sentinel]

I have ideas, just haven't tried yet

Since I only need to save off enemy fsms, I feel like it might be possible

[copper nacelle]

are the new particle effects on the title screen intended

or just a "feature"

[pearl sentinel]

"Feature"

[copper nacelle]

also the new colorscheme

[solemn rivet]

can't you serialize them as a xml?

[pearl sentinel]

Possibly

[solemn rivet]

since they are basically arrays within arrays

[pearl sentinel]

Haven't got around to trying

[solemn rivet]

gotcha

[copper nacelle]

the husk respawned

the golden one

my geo is unlimited

neat

[solemn rivet]

lol

that's amazing

[vagrant leaf]

eternal agony imo

[copper nacelle]

they're all replaced

it's amazing

[solemn rivet]

mine's a mawlek

[copper nacelle]

lmao

wtf

the red dots are dripping down

[vagrant leaf]

what a strange mawlek we have here

[copper nacelle]

made it to royal waterways

[solemn rivet]

oh crap, they are actually hard to get past

[copper nacelle]

rip

everything is geo now

[solemn rivet]

cheese strats

[copper nacelle]

lmfao

I'm actually in CoT

[solemn rivet]

kek

[pearl sentinel]

I've literally only tested a few areas, so yeah

This is all great stuff, thanks guys, appreciate it :)

[vagrant leaf]

threatening goam here to make platforming difficult

[solemn rivet]

even tho they're sideways, they still spit upwards

[copper nacelle]

rip fk

1500 geo now

[solemn rivet]

gruz = gruz

[copper nacelle]

OH SHIT

I walked into the snail shaman room

and I heard 10 zotes

scream

[vagrant leaf]

yeah gruz is just gruz

wait what

[rose crown]

LOL

[vagrant leaf]

ZOTE INVASION

[rose crown]

Glorious

[copper nacelle]

lemme record it

[rose crown]

So the Furious Vengeflys have been changing on screen for me

[copper nacelle]

how do you watch a flv file

[solemn rivet]

also, stuck after zote

gates won't open

[copper nacelle]

rip

noclip life

ok have video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsSTklFS6GQ&feature=youtu.be

[rose crown]

That's amazing

[solemn rivet]

who are you? - I'm you, but stronger

[copper nacelle]

had to pogo past him

i saw 1 zote

[young walrus]

omfg

[vagrant leaf]

the two aspids in the broken wall were a bee and a primal aspid

[young walrus]

they're all colo zote?

hahahaha

[vagrant leaf]

i want die

[copper nacelle]

no they aren't

zote is just next to them

[pearl sentinel]

You streaming it 56?

[copper nacelle]

no

am now tho

[pearl sentinel]

Channel name?

[copper nacelle]

https://www.twitch.tv/5fiftysix6

[pearl sentinel]

Ty

[vagrant leaf]

so many colosseum enemies

[copper nacelle]

who did he replace

[rose crown]

I'm heading to the coliseum

Wish me luck lads

[pearl sentinel]

Colloseum does not randomize, I think

It causes softlocks

For now

[rose crown]

oh

well nvm then

[pearl sentinel]

It's on my list to tackle it, I don't yet know why it breaks

[solemn rivet]

hecking mawleks

[buoyant wasp]

I'd solve the speed issue first, might solve the colo issue at the same time

mawleks EVERYWHERE

also, does it seem to you like mawleks are spawning more frequently? cause i've seen alot of them

in these images

(haven't played it)

[pearl sentinel]

I'm guessing they're all using the default seed :×

And playing default settings

[copper nacelle]

help

my hpbar is gone

[pearl sentinel]

O.o

[solemn rivet]

where my brooding mawlek at

[copper nacelle]

I think it's because zote

[solemn rivet]

I miss him

[pearl sentinel]

Ohhh. Zote may have done it, Dave and load at a bench

[young walrus]

DAVE

[pearl sentinel]

Save*

[copper nacelle]

nice mawlek

also will do

[pearl sentinel]

Looks like it breaks the boss reward tho

I'll have to make it skip rando ing that scene

[copper nacelle]

help

[buoyant wasp]

lol

you should use -37

[buoyant wasp]

cause -34 had that bug

[copper nacelle]

ahh

thought I had updated

[vagrant leaf]

ironic

[solemn rivet]

heheh

[vagrant leaf]

rip

[copper nacelle]

@pearl sentinel 🤔

[solemn rivet]

waluigi moved from fungal to greenpath

[copper nacelle]

new look is really nice

aw shit it broke

[pearl sentinel]

Huh, odd

[copper nacelle]

🇫

[solemn rivet]

okay, I'm getting tired of you guys

[rose crown]

City of tears is a dangerous place

[pearl sentinel]

Oh, 56, was your game open?

[copper nacelle]

nope

[pearl sentinel]

That looks like an error of writing permissions or something

Weird

[copper nacelle]

uh

[pearl sentinel]

I'll debug it tonight, thanks for the report

[copper nacelle]

was installing api manually

and crossroads died

"Crossroads.exe has stopped working"

[pearl sentinel]

Lol

[pearl sentinel]

Oh fun

City of tears indeed

Oh, if anyone wants to be extra helpful, sending me a copy of your mod log after you're done playing would be amazing

[buoyant wasp]

i imagine deepnest with this mod is gonna be hilarious

[rose crown]

I can do that

ooo I should head there

[copper nacelle]

@vagrant leaf

[vagrant leaf]

good

i've only seen hive workers so far

[pearl sentinel]

I have it logging everything that is replaced and everything you hit with your nail. So I should be able to solve a lot of bugs with the data from a logged playthrough

[copper nacelle]

one guy randomized into thin air

[solemn rivet]

such a precarious standing...

[pearl sentinel]

Lol

Yeah I think you and 56 are playing the same seed

[solemn rivet]

finally found it!!!

my long lost friend

right after zote

kek

[vagrant leaf]

collector

how

[pearl sentinel]

Uh

[vagrant leaf]

someone should fight collector

[solemn rivet]

WTF

why 2 of them?

[vagrant leaf]

HA

kill them

[copper nacelle]

nice

[pearl sentinel]

Well

[solemn rivet]

me = double ded

maybe not

it can't jump

[vagrant leaf]

brooding mawleks more like

[rose crown]

I love this

[solemn rivet]

ok, now there are 3 of them

[copper nacelle]

nice ceiling

[pearl sentinel]

Yeah, wall types are special until I put the orientation fix in for them

[solemn rivet]

and now there are 0 of them

and no mask shards

ummm

it's a tarp

[pearl sentinel]

[solemn rivet]

oh, I've just realized

they're gonna respawn

also, where did the masks they used to carry go to?

[pearl sentinel]

They aren't triggered I guess. I'm going to not randomize the original one, just wrote a bug report up for it

[solemn rivet]

[copper nacelle]

H E L P

[solemn rivet]

Unn Lake

be glad it's not muzznik

[copper nacelle]

THEY'RE EVERYWHERE

8 of them

[solemn rivet]

maybe they replaced the small harmless mushrooms?

[copper nacelle]

i think they replaced the spitty things

the circle ones

[solemn rivet]

the small floaty ones?

[copper nacelle]

the big ones

like the ones which spit out the acid cloud thing

does anyone know where dreamgate.dat is?

[solemn rivet]

oh

yikes

[pearl sentinel]

If anyone else gets to fungal wastes, it crashed there for 56 so pls report if it does

[exotic venture]

what

enemy randomizer up?

hit me with that dll bruh

[pearl sentinel]

Scroll up, at work rn

It's super janky early alpha

Suggest using debug mod with it

O you can noclip out of soft locks

So *

[copper nacelle]

how do you change the debug mod keybindings

nvm

[pearl sentinel]

Gruz mother is also a softlock. Dang

[copper nacelle]

hello god tamer

[rose crown]

Okay so yes, fungal wastes is a crash point

Left from that initial narrow room as as far as I got

[pearl sentinel]

Well shit. Any output_log.txt from the crash would be appreciated

In the meantime since I'm at work, you can use debug mod to give yourself mantis claw and go to other zones

[copper nacelle]

god tamer tamer

hmm

[pearl sentinel]

Lol

Yep, there will be wall bats. Though once I fix the spacing they won't float

[copper nacelle]

hmmmm

didn't softlock

which is pretty neat

this room

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/283680756159741953/417775690188849182/unknown.png

spawns correctly

but then softlocks

this guy floats

mistakes didn't rando some mistakes don't rando, soul twisters don't exist

so far

and this

causes a softlock

these guys dive into the air

not a problem

just kinda funny

[buoyant obsidian]

Is that an enemy randomizer :o

[copper nacelle]

yeah

early alpha from kerr

it's really good

install debug and play it

it's very fun

soul twisters fixed themslves after dying

https://clips.twitch.tv/MoralHandsomeYogurtMrDestructoid

transformed

[rose crown]

I used seed 413 and now the wall jump is broken?

I can still cling to the wall just not jump from them

[copper nacelle]

that's a vanilla bug

just quit out and back

[rose crown]

oh

alright then

[vagrant leaf]

rip shrumal ogre charm notch

[pearl sentinel]

Yeah I added it to the bug list :×

Beware of fungal wastes

It ceashes

Crashes

[vagrant leaf]

should i just give myself claw and go to CoT

[pearl sentinel]

Yea

[vagrant leaf]

sounds good

[pearl sentinel]

That's the fix for bow

[copper nacelle]

also don't go through crystal peak

the normal way

[pearl sentinel]

Laser bug room to the left? Of crystal guardian crashes it looks like

[copper nacelle]

yea

@pearl sentinel

[woeful plaza]

I have no clue what's going on but I love it.

[copper nacelle]

enemy rando

early alpha

[pearl sentinel]

Crystal peaks is a crash zone. Skip it.

[copper nacelle]

except the first room

[woeful plaza]

ohhh

i see

still fantastic

[vagrant leaf]

dang

how do you get into CoT without fungal or CP

[copper nacelle]

debug mod u dungo

and through blue lake

[vagrant leaf]

ah

but

shade skip > debug

[hazy sentinel]

randomize shade imo

[copper nacelle]

you need debug tho

or you get soft locked

[vagrant leaf]

ik

i have it

i just prefer to use like

actual game

[copper nacelle]

i used shade skip

[vagrant leaf]

when i can

[exotic venture]

uh

[vagrant leaf]

apparently on chaos mode when you hit spikes enemies in the room randomize again

good

dont fix also

makes it better

[copper nacelle]

@exotic venture same thing happened to me

@pearl sentinel bug

that one enemy is always sideways

[hazy sentinel]

yeah because the mosscreep is sideways

[vagrant leaf]

oh my god

i just went into the goam maze to get the mask shard

why do i exist

[copper nacelle]

nice

[pearl sentinel]

Is he upside-down?

[copper nacelle]

rip

crash v3

https://github.com/Kerr1291/EnemyRandomizer/issues/22

[exotic venture]

room to mantis village, just past the shrumal ogres room

also crashes

[copper nacelle]

already reported imo

avoid going to mantis village, crystal peak, and ancient basin broken vessel room

[exotic venture]

so mantis claw, cdash and djump are unreachable ?

ok

[copper nacelle]

yes

debug mod life

[exotic venture]

zote the mighty has spawned over 5 times now

for me

fuckin A

[copper nacelle]

I got 5 zotes at once

in the area where you get fireball

[pearl sentinel]

Yeah and I think 56 just helped me figure out the crashes

So I'll fix that in a few hours when I'm home

[copper nacelle]

room mode toggle 🅱roke

file has 1 and game says true but it still doesn't toggle

[pearl sentinel]

I think your save file has its own json

Different from the global one

[copper nacelle]

oof

I have a save file json editor

time to check

[pearl sentinel]

I just used whatever the default SaveSettings method was that is in the Mod class

Global is used when making a new save

I didn't intend for that menu to be there during gameplay, so I'll fix that later

[copper nacelle]

w/ chaos mode

if you're unlucky

could you crash anywhere

[pearl sentinel]

No?

[copper nacelle]

oh wait
I'm dumb

[pearl sentinel]

Shouldn't

[copper nacelle]

found it

[pearl sentinel]

Nice

[copper nacelle]

hmm

x2

[ancient nebula]

@solemn rivet was invincibility ever a feature of 1.5.0 blackmoth or did i break it again

[solemn rivet]

I think I did add it to grubberfly

don't remember

[ancient nebula]

not using tjat

[solemn rivet]

eh

then no

[buoyant wasp]

The first settings are save specific, the second settings are global if memory serves

can look closer when i get home

[pearl sentinel]

Second is global yep

[ancient nebula]

dashmaster, sharp shadow, sprintmaster (prolly not those)
but stalwart shell and defenders crest maybe?

[solemn rivet]

none of those tbh

and I don't mess with sprint, stalwart and defender's

[vagrant leaf]

vengefly king's spawn are randomized

why

[pearl sentinel]

Oh nice

[vagrant leaf]

p r i m a l

a s p i d s

two of them are assaulting me in CoT

double pain

[hazy sentinel]

hot

[ancient nebula]

gonna see if i can fix it and reproduce again, will report back

[copper nacelle]

chaos mode is fun

[vagrant leaf]

chaos mode only mode

[copper nacelle]

oh fuck

it can jump up platforms

[exotic venture]

this city protected by GOD TAMER

[solemn rivet]

I only ever play in chaos mode

[vagrant leaf]

its not real randomizer if you're not on chaos mode

[copper nacelle]

@exotic venture i got that too

[exotic venture]

did you also have all those zotes

[copper nacelle]

had zotes

but in shaman area

help me

chaos mode is fun

[ancient nebula]

@solemn rivet i know whats going on now

grubberflys invincibility stays after you unequip charm

[solemn rivet]

eh

ofc it does

[hazy sentinel]

dow jones

industrial average

[solemn rivet]

you saw nothing

[exotic venture]

heuhehuheu

[ancient nebula]

this should be interesting

[copper nacelle]

it got stuck

[solemn rivet]

@ancient nebula shh i'll buy your silence

[ancient nebula]

💜

[solemn rivet]

see if that fixes it

[exotic venture]

poked his eye out

[solemn rivet]

okay, I'm gonna start a new enemy rando save

[exotic venture]

backup all your other saves

[solemn rivet]

had to leave that one to work on my paper

nah

has there been any releases since?

[pearl sentinel]

Reminder: crystal peak, fungal wastes, and the orange Balloon room crashes

Off work in 2 hrs then will fix crashes

[ancient nebula]

whats the orange baloon room

[solemn rivet]

*orange ballroom

[pearl sentinel]

The ghosts that appear near the fallen kin boss

[ancient nebula]

ok

[pearl sentinel]

It looks like I had a few enemies that were badly flagged, so once I correct that it won't crash

I'll also put a failsafe in so it never happens again

[vagrant leaf]

rip

just got the basin crash

[ancient nebula]

@solemn rivet stuck bug after being hit

with grubberflys

[solemn rivet]

but grubberfly should make you invincible

[ancient nebula]

i stopped the motion, got hit while stopping it

[solemn rivet]

also, where are you in that screenshot? xD

[ancient nebula]

top left corner

[solemn rivet]

oh

[ancient nebula]

invincibility fixed

but why do i take triple damage

[solemn rivet]

triple?

[ancient nebula]

oh no, issue

there no invincibility period after being hit, at all

[solemn rivet]

yeah

easy to fix

[ancient nebula]

the no invincibility thing stays after game reload..

[vagrant leaf]

oh god i just found myla in rando

like a myla enemy

[pearl sentinel]

Yep

It can happen

[vagrant leaf]

i killed it

[pearl sentinel]

She also yells loud on death

[vagrant leaf]

yeah

it just looked like a normal mining bug and then it died

[ancient nebula]

why would you do that

[vagrant leaf]

true agony

[pearl sentinel]

An there's still so much I want to add to this too

[graceful smelt]

I kill myla :)

[pearl sentinel]

Like the tentacle monsters from abyss

[vagrant leaf]

well uh

the theme when you're climbing up the abyss just started playing

[ancient nebula]

chuckle

[vagrant leaf]

tf is going on here

[copper nacelle]

that always happens on title screen load

[pearl sentinel]

Idk

I mean, yeah that happens on load up

[solemn rivet]

@ancient nebula

[pearl sentinel]

Aw crap, I just realized that room in greenpath with all the armored guys you need to pogo over is probably all scrambled

[copper nacelle]

pogo on a bunch of mosquitos

[pearl sentinel]

Though, someone will enter that room and find all of them ad primal aspids

[copper nacelle]

nice

[ancient nebula]

thanks

[pearl sentinel]

So 56, thoughts on it so far? I think you've played it the most

[copper nacelle]

fun af

[ancient nebula]

are bosses randomized too

[copper nacelle]

mawlek is

i don't think any others are

[pearl sentinel]

If they are it's a bug and I'll be fixing it. I will allow them to be placed in the world tho

[copper nacelle]

keep gruz tho

[pearl sentinel]

Ofc

[copper nacelle]

random gruz and mawlek are great

fungal wastes w/ 10 gruz mothers

[hazy sentinel]

random the radiance

kthx

[ancient nebula]

would maps be randomized
russian roulette you never know what youll get and whats in next room...
and you cant go back cause room youve just heen in turned into a different one

[copper nacelle]

chaos mode has random stuff on room load

so you can just leave and come back for different stuff

[pearl sentinel]

Maps is something I want to do after this mod

[young walrus]

have fun with mapping rooms

[ancient nebula]

exciting!

[pearl sentinel]

Yeah it won't be a true mapping

I did come up with a prototype tho

[rain cedar]

Stop talking there's like 5k new messages

[pearl sentinel]

[young walrus]

you're not my real dad

[vagrant leaf]

i've found him

finally

[copper nacelle]

i found one of those

when I enabled chaos

in the ancient basin long tunnel thingy

[vagrant leaf]

yeah i think they take the place of the sentries sometimes

[copper nacelle]

ofc

they're both flying

[hazy sentinel]

ur both flying

boom roasted

[solemn rivet]

https://puu.sh/zwmG8/b0dd89ac3d.gif I could literally do this all day

[vagrant leaf]

rest in peace poor bee

[copper nacelle]

rip

gradow's gif is actually showing up

nevermind

[hazy sentinel]

u shall bee missed

[copper nacelle]

too good to be true

[hazy sentinel]

haha

[young walrus]

....i hate you

[junior basalt]

hey i just tried to install blackmoth and it keeps crashing on startup

[young walrus]

you did it wrong

[ancient nebula]

hahah

[junior basalt]

i figured as much

[pearl sentinel]

Oh yeah, the random zote spawns are my favorite

[junior basalt]

but i did it the same way (basically) that I had done lightbringer in the past and that worked fine

[pearl sentinel]

I love it when he spawns in an area with spikes and jumps to his death

[copper nacelle]

5 at once or ban

@junior basalt use the installer

and install the api

[junior basalt]

is it pinned?

[copper nacelle]

yea

[junior basalt]

thanks

[solemn rivet]

yeah, blackmoth is an api mod

it works differently from lightbringer

also idk if I should give him the experimental version

kek

[young walrus]

lol

spinning SD's

[solemn rivet]

what's your veredict @ancient nebula ?

[ancient nebula]

chill 👌

[solemn rivet]

is that... Stuck?

[ancient nebula]

ye

purposefully let an exploding ushroom explode on me

send me flying off and chilling up there

still testing invincibility thing

[solemn rivet]

so

[ancient nebula]

it exploded while i was in the constant dash form

[solemn rivet]

I have no idea how to make un-stuckable

[pearl sentinel]

Add a way to cancel it?

[solemn rivet]

yeah

currently, I'm cancelling it every time you dash

[rain cedar]

You can probably just menu to get unstuck

[ancient nebula]

invincibility side effect gone

[solemn rivet]

since you dash infinitely fast, you only get a frame of "vincibility"

so I make you invincible at the start of the dash, and make you not-invincible at the end of the dash

(if you have grubber)

[ancient nebula]

yeqh menu gets it unstuck

[solemn rivet]

actual code:

if (PlayerData.instance.equippedCharm_35)
HeroController.instance.cState.invulnerable = true;
DoDash();
if (PlayerData.instance.equippedCharm_35)
HeroController.instance.cState.invulnerable = false;```

but aside from that, how stable is it?

can I "release" it?

[ancient nebula]

apart from grubberflys stuckness when hit during dash, i dont see other issues to not release it

[junior basalt]

it took a bit of screwing around, but I got it figured out. thanks guys

[pearl sentinel]

Hm. Whoops. So fungal wastes crash is because I had marked the mushroom turrets as bosses on accident

[ancient nebula]

hehehe

[pearl sentinel]

I think I was sorting that part of the list while drunk one night a few weeks ago

I wonder what happens if I switch brooding mawlek and nosk...

[exotic venture]

you mean a proper boss instead of a mistake?

[pearl sentinel]

I could make all mistakes into nosk

[young walrus]

all mistakes are NGG

[pearl sentinel]

Honestly, the main reason I took nosk out of the rando rotation was bc when you run into him his intro animation freezes you for like 30 seconds

[young walrus]

#fair

[copper nacelle]

lol

[young walrus]

are all bosses out of the rotation?

[copper nacelle]

no

[pearl sentinel]

And then if you get more than one in the same room you just sit there while they yell at you

[young walrus]

besides gruz?

[copper nacelle]

mawlek

god tamer

god tamer's beast thingy

[young walrus]

but you won't find like.... hornet

[copper nacelle]

zote

[pearl sentinel]

Not yet

[hazy sentinel]

add gpz 10 to rotation imo

[pearl sentinel]

So, do you guys want to try these disabled bosses in the next alpha: traitor lord and nosk (in addition to what's already there)

They work fine, but idk if you want them or not

[young walrus]

maybe just randomize bosses with each other

like how ALTTP does it

[pearl sentinel]

I'll eventually have options for them, so it won't matter in the long run

I'm avoiding replacing bosses for now

It causes softlocks

Until I have time to debug why

[ancient nebula]

would be funny to see the collector everywhere

[pearl sentinel]

It wasn't funny

Well, it was, but he likes to spawn in walls

Change your music

Then giggle a lot

[ancient nebula]

precisely why

[pearl sentinel]

Funnily enough

Zote is the most stable boss outside is normal encounter area

His *

And since he's harmless, I kind of want to put one in dirtmouth that's just always there when you visit

[ancient nebula]

oooo yeee

also make him invincible

[pearl sentinel]

One other thing I tried that was funny, a line of elderbugs

In a new game

They all collectively emote when you pass them by

[ancient nebula]

id like to see that xD

[copper nacelle]

make elderbug a randomized mob

[solemn rivet]

release candidate for blackmoth

[pearl sentinel]

It happens

[copper nacelle]

@solemn rivet that's exactly what I had

[solemn rivet]

there's another somewhere

[pearl sentinel]

Probably same seed

[solemn rivet]

can only hear its screams

[pearl sentinel]

I need to make it rando a fresh seed on startup

For people that don't go to options

[solemn rivet]

462528428

[copper nacelle]

that's not my seed

my seed has 69 at the end

[pearl sentinel]

Well I'm headed home aoon, so I'll check it out

But the seed is saved into your save file when you create a new game

So that's what you really need to check

[solemn rivet]

@junior basalt there's a new version of blackmoth above

[copper nacelle]

look at this

https://github.com/kbuzsaki/bingosync/blob/master/bingosync-app/generators/hollow_knight_generator.js

most descriptive variable names I've ever seen

[solemn rivet]

you're kidding me

there's no way that's a real thing

[copper nacelle]

no what imo

and apparently it is

my eyes are bleeding

[solemn rivet]

how does one even read that

[copper nacelle]

 for (d = 0; d < g; d++) e = a.S[d], h = h + e + b[d % c] & g - 1, f = a.S[h], a.S[d] = f, a.S[h] = e;

why

[solemn rivet]

I'm waiting for it to spell out something at the end

[hazy sentinel]

not all bad

[junior basalt]

@solemn rivet what's new in this version?

[solemn rivet]

eh

if you're using the gdrive version...

[junior basalt]

i got the one from the mod installer

[solemn rivet]

8 directional dash, grubberfly works and you can change directions mid superdash, and also superdash in mid-air

[junior basalt]

i see

sounds cool

[solemn rivet]

oh, and dashmaster works as well

I have to figure out how to change the in-game text for those tho

probably not worth the effort till next patch tho

[pearl sentinel]

The mod installer should point to the gdrive version, if not pleas elet me know so I can fix it

[solemn rivet]

mine does too

[copper nacelle]

if you delete something from gdrive does the gdrive link still work

[pearl sentinel]

Dunno. I assume not

[ornate rivet]

wait

how is zote there

wat

[young walrus]

mods? in the modding channel may b?

[ornate rivet]

is it a mod we can download?

[young walrus]

at your own risk

it's super pre-alpha

[ornate rivet]

I love that stuff

gimme

[young walrus]

scroll up

it's somewhere here

[ornate rivet]

blackmoth?

[young walrus]

no

[copper nacelle]

enemy randomizer

make sure to have debug

I'd wait till after kerr fixes the crashing tho

[solemn rivet]

Blackmoth 1.5.0 added to GDrive

[copper nacelle]

rn you can't go to crystal peak, part of ancient basin, and fungal wastes

still fun tho

[solemn rivet]

changes added to readme

[copper nacelle]

@ornate rivet https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/327461802311155714/417740012436848640/SuperAlphaEnemyRandomizer_v2.zip

[ornate rivet]

THANKS

AHH

this is amazing

[copper nacelle]

✅

make sure to have debug or ur bad

[ornate rivet]

I always wanted this

[solemn rivet]

☑

[ornate rivet]

but I never thought it would be possible

does it use the modding api?

[copper nacelle]

yea

so you could do rando + enemy rando + hell mod

and then die instantly

[ornate rivet]

lel

• debug mod*

ur bad for forgetting it

[exotic venture]

debug mod is standard

[ornate rivet]

does it randomize bosses?

[vagrant leaf]

uh

[solemn rivet]

some

[vagrant leaf]

mawlek, gruz, zote

[ornate rivet]

ok

[vagrant leaf]

can be in place of normal enemies

[solemn rivet]

gruz is still where she usually is

but mawlek is gone

and can be anywhere

[copper nacelle]

also god tamer

and god tamer's beast

[pearl sentinel]

Ok. Time to go home and fix some crashes

[solemn rivet]

yeah, those too

[ornate rivet]

ur mod is awesome me dude

[solemn rivet]

I can send you my modlog if you'd like

[pearl sentinel]

I figured out all the crashes from earlier, I'll fix em in a few minutes once home

[copper nacelle]

[solemn rivet]

[copper nacelle]

disgusting

a was in there

[junior basalt]

Lmao. Facing the false knight in blackmoth. He falls through the floor. I dash through his head to finish him off. He flies off screen. Now I have to re-do that battle

[copper nacelle]

oof

[hazy sentinel]

blackmoth very stable mod

[solemn rivet]

what

there's no way that's my fault

xD

I've fought him lots of times, never seen that happen

[junior basalt]

Yeah who knows. It was pretty hilarious though

[ancient nebula]

0.0

[ornate rivet]

is blackmoth compatible with enemy randomizer

[pearl sentinel]

In theory

[solemn rivet]

yeah

[pearl sentinel]

Haven't tried

[ornate rivet]

hmmm

[copper nacelle]

probably

[solemn rivet]

should be

there's no reason it wouldn't be

[pearl sentinel]

^

ok, i'm home with a bottle of whisky

i got like an hour before i gotta go prep dinner, let's fix some stuff

[solemn rivet]

you're an inspiration

runs to grab some booze

[hazy sentinel]

never fixes blackmoth

[solemn rivet]

it is fixed

[rustic stag]

There are no bugs, only features

[pearl sentinel]

ok, two questions

nosk in this build y/n?

[vagrant leaf]

y

[pearl sentinel]

traitor lord in this build y/n?

[vagrant leaf]

y

[solemn rivet]

eww

sure

also

[copper nacelle]

floating mantis lords too

[solemn rivet]

is there any way to make whatever replaces Mawlek drop the shard when you kill it?

[copper nacelle]

maybe the room's fsm?

[vagrant leaf]

also the shrumal ogre notch

[pearl sentinel]

maybe, but today i'm just going to change it so that it doesn't replace that particular scene

[solemn rivet]

nah

it's not like 1 shard matters

I'd rather find some random enemy there

[pearl sentinel]

i'll leave it that way for chaos mode only for now as a compromise 😛

[vagrant leaf]

chaos mode is the only mode

[solemn rivet]

^

it has been spoken

[vagrant leaf]

i don't think you should upgrade your nail in enemy randomizer

imo

[solemn rivet]

also, it should always be played in glass soul

[vagrant leaf]

i like having a bunch of overpowered enemies trying to kill you

[solemn rivet]

obvsly

[pearl sentinel]

just combo it with hell mod or something 😉

[copper nacelle]

simple solution

[vagrant leaf]

hell mod/ rando/ enemy rando when

[copper nacelle]

hell mod has no nail upgrades anyway

ez fix

[lusty lantern]

annoyance at mods not working for me

[solemn rivet]

wuddup

[exotic venture]

sorry we're hired to do bizz for the hk server instead

[lusty lantern]

I put the mod content things in the Hollow Knight folder thing, and then start the game, but don't see the mod thing that pops up and shows the mod works thing.

[solemn rivet]

okay

do you have API installed?

[lusty lantern]

I put that in the thing yes.

[solemn rivet]

is it inside Hollow Knight/hollow_knight_data/Managed/?

[lusty lantern]

Yes.

[vagrant leaf]

the dll or the entire folder

[lusty lantern]

Well, Data, since hollow_knight_data isn't a thing on my Hollow Knight for some reason.

Which might be causing the problem.

[solemn rivet]

eh

[lusty lantern]

Wait... maybe thats the problem.

[vagrant leaf]

is there a mods folder in your maged folder

[solemn rivet]

that's always there

[vagrant leaf]

managed**

[solemn rivet]

even without mods

[lusty lantern]

Why are there multiple data folders fuck

[solemn rivet]

hollow_knight_data, I mean

[lusty lantern]

Okay I think I found my problem.

put it in the wrong data folder

[vagrant leaf]

[hazy sentinel]

put it in the wrong

folder

[lusty lantern]

now very confused to find other data folder containing mod stuff in it

[exotic venture]

nice

[copper nacelle]

just use the installer imo

ez game

[solemn rivet]

there are two installers

just use either of them

kerr's is better tho

cus he actually knows what he's doing

[exotic venture]

there's also a step-by-step guide

success not guaranteed tho

[copper nacelle]

I use Kerr's for installing the ones in the gdrive and yours for managing

because the startup time for kerr's is longer

[vagrant leaf]

i just dont use installer because why

[pearl sentinel]

in theory, crashes should be fixed

and "some" softlocks

[solemn rivet]

I use mine for managing and for quick install of my dev builds

[vagrant leaf]

crossroads softlock fix?

[pearl sentinel]

brooding mawlek is NOT randomized in this version (he'll still appear other places tho)

[solemn rivet]

booooo

[copper nacelle]

tfw I got 50 emails from the github thing

[vagrant leaf]

there should be a super chaos mode where everything that doesn't crash the game is randomized

no matter how broken

[pearl sentinel]

that's what chaos mode will be

[copper nacelle]

but chaos mode is nice re

[pearl sentinel]

once i know what the crashes are i can take time to make work-arounds

for now, i'm just gonna do fixes, but i did add a todo for the mawlek replacement in chaos mode

[lusty lantern]

Okay now it works.

Just had to replace the ones that were in the place that it shouldve been in that I never put there.

Which is... confusing as all hell.

[pearl sentinel]

this version also has a new... "feature"

[vagrant leaf]

👀

[pearl sentinel]

enemy types that were floating should now be stuck to walls

but... untested, it could actually have weirder results

so... go find out and post results

[lusty lantern]

just ignores how the hell something can work just by having things replaced in them that should be the same things that were in them originally

[copper nacelle]

the files are different tho

🤔

[pearl sentinel]

also i think i fixed some of the enemies that weren't being randomized

[vagrant leaf]

like the area in CoT?

before soul sanctum bench

[pearl sentinel]

naw that's still off limits

er

oh soul sanctum

right

well yes hopefully those guys

but soul sanctum i did not fix any softlocks there yet

[copper nacelle]

rip

[pearl sentinel]

so... pls to be using debug mod there

but hopefully crossroads softlocks are gone for now

[solemn rivet]

what if I like to take risks?

[pearl sentinel]

in the meantime i had to disable randomization on the 2 screens in crossroads that would softlock

also, the siblings weren't in the rando replacement list, but were being cached...

so hopefully they show up now?

[copper nacelle]

time to start a new playthrough

tomorrow tho

[solemn rivet]

I'm tempted to start one now

[pearl sentinel]

having 56 stream-test earlier was incredibly helpful

i caught so many problems

[junior basalt]

@solemn rivet just wanted to say I am loving blackmoth so far

[solemn rivet]

great to hear!

How far are you?

[copper nacelle]

Fuck reacted with :happygrub:

[junior basalt]

Just got to Queen's Station

I like that longnail isn't useless haha. Seems like thorns of agony kind of is

[copper nacelle]

just get hit

simple trick

[junior basalt]

Clearly

But nah it just doesn't do enough damage to make it worthwhile

[solemn rivet]

ToA kek

so old

[junior basalt]

Not a charm I generally use just checking to see how it worked with the dash mechanic

[solemn rivet]

there's a full list with spoilers in the readme

[junior basalt]

But that's like cheating haha

[pearl sentinel]

hmm, my wall adjustment thing seems to have broken a bunch of enemies

trying one more fix then just gonna revert it for now or put the fixed version up

so "in theory" this should work "better"

with how long it takes to load.... it really helps having others test too

[copper nacelle]

i'll test when i can

homework vs my life

[pearl sentinel]

nah it's cool

you've already done a lot

i'm trying to get as much as i can done before wife gets home

:corniferFace

whelp, times up, but here's the rando with wall-change revereted

still has softlock and crash fixes

let me know how it goes

[solemn rivet]

can an fsm be rotated? And I do not mean the base game object attached to it

idk if that even makes sense tbh

just trying to figure out how to implement up/down superdash

[solemn rivet]

Meh whatever, I'll just wait for the next patch

[pearl sentinel]

that's how i feel about serialzing fsms

[rain cedar]

Can an abstract data structure be rotated? 🤔

It's just a state machine

That makes no sense

[pearl sentinel]

hey hey, a tree can be rotated

[rain cedar]

But rotating the state "positions" would have no effect

[rustic stag]

If you rotate the tree you rotate the game
ez maths

[pearl sentinel]

i mean, you're not wrong

just saying

[solemn rivet]

I know... I just thought that maybe the fsm was instanced as an object disjointed from the parent

[rain cedar]

Yeah but what did you mean by rotate?

[solemn rivet]

I was just grasping at straws... The superdash fsm only handles movement using a float, not a vector.... So I thought to rotate it

[pearl sentinel]

what happens if you just... rotated the character?

without using the superdash fsm

[solemn rivet]

What you see in the gif

Absolutely nothing

[pearl sentinel]

i mean, it's very possible that the superdash code only does something like

[exotic venture]

heh

rotating

[pearl sentinel]

"if > 0 then pos.x += value"

and doesn't use any actual direction

[solemn rivet]

I mean, it does rotate the sprite, but it still moves l/r

[pearl sentinel]

right, that's what i mean

superdash code might be hard coded to only move the .x coord

[solemn rivet]

Yup

Hence, rotating

Anyways, gotta go

[pearl sentinel]

you could probably make some code to like, see if you're superdashing, then un-do the x movement and translate the movement into an amount you apply manually using a dot product along the direction the player is pressing/holding

[rain cedar]

@buoyant wasp I just noticed on randomizer tracker credits section you have this:
MyEyes (Seanpr)

MyEyes is Firzen, not me

[buoyant wasp]

heh

that's probably back when i didn't know the difference

i was just a young pup

[pearl sentinel]

so, noob FSM question

will this kill an enemy?

FSMUtility.LocateFSM( enemy, "health_manager_enemy" ).SetState( "Decrement Health" );

[rain cedar]

Try it

[solemn rivet]

so

does it kill the enemy?

the tension is killing me

[pearl sentinel]

Actually going to be testing it soon. Posted from bed so haven't tried yet

Part of an idea I had to handle all the softlocks

Instead of removing rando ed enemies, I'm going to make a..... timeout box, if you will.... way off in space

Then, I'm going to "link" the original enemies to their replacements

Once the replacements die, I'll trigger the original to die as if it was killed

In theory, this should fix the softlocks

Got all the rest put together and tested, the links seem to work, now just need to get the "kill original" part working

[solemn rivet]

nice

in theory, this could also fix spawns from killed enemies

like Mawlek

[pearl sentinel]

Yep

[solemn rivet]

also, I'm trying to manually move the Knight up when I press up during superdash

it's going... Laughably

[pearl sentinel]

Oh?

What's happening?

[solemn rivet]

https://puu.sh/zwNL2/b9f83043c5.gif

[exotic venture]

hornet: wtf

[solemn rivet]

hornet is trippin

[pearl sentinel]

So he's only going left?

[solemn rivet]

no

he can go left or right

but when I press up, he breaks the dash and goes up juuuuuust a bit

[pearl sentinel]

Are you moving the transform or the rigid body?

[solemn rivet]

rigid body

I was moving the transform before

and got the spinning

which, I've gotta say, is neat

[pearl sentinel]

Yeah

Oh. Maybe the rigid body has one of "lock whatevers" turned on

[solemn rivet]

 HeroController.instance.AffectedByGravity(false);
                    ((Rigidbody2D)GetPrivateField("rb2d").GetValue(HeroController.instance)).rotation = -90f;                    
                    ((Rigidbody2D)GetPrivateField("rb2d").GetValue(HeroController.instance)).velocity = new Vector3(0, 30);```

it's even supposed to ignore gravity too

[pearl sentinel]

Oh, don't set velocity? What if you use the rigid body move function?

Uhhh it's called...

https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Rigidbody2D.MovePosition.html

[solemn rivet]

((Rigidbody2D)GetPrivateField("rb2d").GetValue(HeroController.instance)).MovePosition(Vector2.up);

let's try dis

[pearl sentinel]

Is that running on fixed update?

[solemn rivet]

yup

as long as you're superdashing and up is pressed

but if this works, I can fix it so it runs once up is pressed

so you don't have to hold it

wtf

xDDD

I have to record this

[pearl sentinel]

also, check this

https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Rigidbody2D-constraints.html

maybe it enables a y axis constraint

[solemn rivet]

oh THAT explains it

it doesn't move in the direction, it moves TO that position

so I was getting insta teleported to 0,1

nice

[pearl sentinel]

Oh, right

[solemn rivet]

                    HeroController.instance.AffectedByGravity(false);
                    ((Rigidbody2D)GetPrivateField("rb2d").GetValue(HeroController.instance)).rotation = -90f;                    
                    ((Rigidbody2D)GetPrivateField("rb2d").GetValue(HeroController.instance)).transform.Translate(Vector3.up);
                    ((Rigidbody2D)GetPrivateField("rb2d").GetValue(HeroController.instance)).constraints = RigidbodyConstraints2D.None;``` hope this works

well, it 'kinda' works

[pearl sentinel]

?

[solemn rivet]

lemme show you

https://youtu.be/h76W2oK5dgE