#archived-modding-development | Hollow Knight | Page 55

buoyant wasp Jan 30, 2018, 2:20 AM

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later

turbid blaze Jan 30, 2018, 9:17 AM

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😦 in BossRUsh the Collector is standing there in his dying pose and it just goes on forever. I cannot hit him, but the weaversong baby spiders look like they hit him. I also have a useless grimmchild laughing at me. This is pretty annoying 😉

fair rampart Jan 30, 2018, 9:17 AM

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Known glitch

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Dunno the fix tho

turbid blaze Jan 30, 2018, 9:18 AM

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glitch for bossrush or does this also happen in the normal game?

fair rampart Jan 30, 2018, 9:18 AM

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I think it also happens normal game

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Not sure since I never encountered the glitch

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But alot of people reported it

turbid blaze Jan 30, 2018, 9:19 AM

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well time to start over it seems 😃

fair rampart Jan 30, 2018, 9:20 AM

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yep

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rip

young walrus Jan 30, 2018, 9:36 AM

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That's a vanilla game bug

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Not caused by boss rush

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Dream shield, Grimm child, and I believe defenders crest, all can cause the same bug.

turbid blaze Jan 30, 2018, 9:44 AM

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haha just beat grimm again. but next time ill do him after collector then. thanks

fair rampart Jan 30, 2018, 10:13 AM

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Guys how do I open the .dat files that you extract from the game?

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AudioClip ones

solemn rivet Jan 30, 2018, 12:52 PM

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Can't you export them as something else?

fair rampart Jan 30, 2018, 12:53 PM

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nop

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wdym

turbid blaze Jan 30, 2018, 1:09 PM

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yay i beat the boss rush. That was a lot of fun. Thanks KDT.

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I like how it can get pretty different from the normal game. On one hand I was OP with all the charms stacked, but on the other hand i had to tank radiance's attacks because I didnt have shadow cloack.

copper nacelle Jan 30, 2018, 1:16 PM

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@fair rampart there's a unity thing for it

fair rampart Jan 30, 2018, 1:16 PM

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Oh

copper nacelle Jan 30, 2018, 1:16 PM

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I don't remember what it's called and not at computer rn

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can tell you the exact name when I get home

fair rampart Jan 30, 2018, 1:17 PM

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Alright

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Plz do

solemn rivet Jan 30, 2018, 1:44 PM

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mine exported to .wav, @fair rampart

fair rampart Jan 30, 2018, 1:44 PM

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hmm

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Can you plz send over the sounds for siblings and tendrils?

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I cant get it right for some reason

solemn rivet Jan 30, 2018, 1:47 PM

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https://github.com/Perfare/UnityStudio/releases

GitHub

Perfare/UnityStudio

UnityStudio - Unity Studio is a tool for exploring, extracting and exporting assets from Unity games and apps.

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use this

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they aren't named correctly, so it's hard to tell

fair rampart Jan 30, 2018, 1:50 PM

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ah

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Thanks

solemn rivet Jan 30, 2018, 1:50 PM

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*fixed

📎 shade_sibling_idle_loop.wav

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📎 abyss_tendrils_emerge.wav

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📎 abyss_tendrils_loop.wav

fair rampart Jan 30, 2018, 1:52 PM

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Thank you

hollow tree Jan 30, 2018, 6:10 PM

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Does anyone have the sound for Hollow Knight jumping above creatures like the glimback? I tried to get it by capturing the sound with OBS but I couldn't extract it from the sound of the mine. And I'm on Linux so I can't use the Tool Gardow posted.
I'm working on a little animation with Hollow Knight and would like to use that sound there.

fair rampart Jan 30, 2018, 6:19 PM

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hmm

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Why couldnt you extract the sound?

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from obs

hollow tree Jan 30, 2018, 6:32 PM

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Because of the background sound of the mine.

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I can't mute it because it's part of the ambinet sound

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I can't separate the sound of the nail hitting the glimback from the sounds of the mine.

young walrus Jan 30, 2018, 6:37 PM

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Have you tried the one in the dark room?

hollow tree Jan 30, 2018, 6:38 PM

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Where exactly? I can't remember a dark room with a glimback 🤔

young walrus Jan 30, 2018, 6:38 PM

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On the way to descending dark

leaden hedge Jan 30, 2018, 6:39 PM

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You'd usually have lamp to get in cp

young walrus Jan 30, 2018, 6:39 PM

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And no mine sounds in that room

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Oh that room too

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There's 2 of em

leaden hedge Jan 30, 2018, 6:39 PM

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But that room is common in rando

hollow tree Jan 30, 2018, 6:41 PM

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Okay, I'll look up where decending dark was exactly and try to find that room. Thx for the hint.

young walrus Jan 30, 2018, 6:41 PM

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The toll booth room too

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Much easier

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And right at the entrance

hollow tree Jan 30, 2018, 6:51 PM

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Did you mean this room?

📎 unknown.png

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If so it still has this hissing background sounds. But maybe I'm able to sepaparte the nail sound from this, its not as dominant as the sounds of the mine.

buoyant obsidian Jan 31, 2018, 12:37 AM

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I don't think the Lightbringer in the drive folder is the current one

copper nacelle Jan 31, 2018, 1:01 AM

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re

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are you looking forward to (probably) no fsms

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or no because redoing stuff is redoing stuff

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or no redoing stuff just downpatch

ornate rivet Jan 31, 2018, 1:40 AM

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I thought FSM wasnt getting removed

copper nacelle Jan 31, 2018, 1:42 AM

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unknown iirc

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but graig said something about the past

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when fsms were mentioned

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iirc

glass socket Jan 31, 2018, 1:45 AM

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hw come the boss rush mod at is downloadable right now is diffrent from the one i see in videos with the dream gate?

royal ridge Jan 31, 2018, 1:46 AM

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Made by different people

rain cedar Jan 31, 2018, 1:46 AM

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I really need to just take my boss rush videos down already

glass socket Jan 31, 2018, 1:46 AM

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oh :0 is there a link to the dreamgate version?

copper nacelle Jan 31, 2018, 1:46 AM

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no

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it's dead now

royal ridge Jan 31, 2018, 1:46 AM

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I still have the files

copper nacelle Jan 31, 2018, 1:46 AM

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ohokay

royal ridge Jan 31, 2018, 1:47 AM

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But you'd have to down patch

copper nacelle Jan 31, 2018, 1:47 AM

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and new boss rush is better

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no dream gate

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= better

rain cedar Jan 31, 2018, 1:47 AM

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Eh that's debatable

copper nacelle Jan 31, 2018, 1:47 AM

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also you have 9 bosses to pick from

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instead of one route

rain cedar Jan 31, 2018, 1:47 AM

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It's better in some ways, worse in others

glass socket Jan 31, 2018, 1:47 AM

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it has 9 bosses and no option to purchase charms and other abilities

copper nacelle Jan 31, 2018, 1:48 AM

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that would be op

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tho

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wouldn't it?

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just buy fluke and shaman and shade soul

rain cedar Jan 31, 2018, 1:48 AM

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It was

glass socket Jan 31, 2018, 1:48 AM

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sadgrub

rain cedar Jan 31, 2018, 1:48 AM

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And it's not just 9

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Beat those 9 for more

copper nacelle Jan 31, 2018, 1:48 AM

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^

rain cedar Jan 31, 2018, 2:11 AM

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@young walrus This has all the proper gate names for every scene and which scene/gate they transition to

📎 ModLog.txt

young walrus Jan 31, 2018, 2:14 AM

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why are so many blank?

rain cedar Jan 31, 2018, 2:15 AM

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Dream return gates are weird

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No other ones should be blank

young walrus Jan 31, 2018, 2:17 AM

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anything thats not a normal transition looks weird

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like.... - Gate 'door_stagExit' goes to gate '' in scene ''

rain cedar Jan 31, 2018, 2:17 AM

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You can probably just ignore that

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I don't think those scenes even have stags

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Actually maybe those are just all the stag rooms idk

young walrus Jan 31, 2018, 2:18 AM

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seems like all buildings are

rain cedar Jan 31, 2018, 2:18 AM

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Either way you can ignore them

young walrus Jan 31, 2018, 2:18 AM

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like.... even in the first few lines

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you have

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Gate 'door_bretta' goes to gate '' in scene ''

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Gate 'door_sly' goes to gate '' in scene ''

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Gate 'door_station' goes to gate '' in scene ''

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there's so much that's blank in Town

rain cedar Jan 31, 2018, 2:19 AM

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Oh well

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There's not a ton of doors elsewhere

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Shouldn't be too hard to figure out the names

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I'll have to look into how doors actually work at some point, I guess

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It is a bit weird that the normal variables are just empty on them

young walrus Jan 31, 2018, 2:21 AM

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lol. Jiji's room nam

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name*

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"Room_Ouiji"

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🤔 i wonder why they changed her name

hollow pier Jan 31, 2018, 2:24 AM

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louiji

hazy sentinel Jan 31, 2018, 2:24 AM

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Ouiji Board

rain cedar Jan 31, 2018, 2:24 AM

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That would be the joke, yes

young walrus Jan 31, 2018, 2:24 AM

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^

hollow pier Jan 31, 2018, 2:24 AM

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weegee

young walrus Jan 31, 2018, 2:24 AM

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Squeegee

solemn rivet Jan 31, 2018, 2:30 AM

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Speaking of the old BR, I recently started playing Iconoclasts and saw KZ in the discord channel, so he's still alive

buoyant wasp Jan 31, 2018, 2:30 AM

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oh, we know he's alive

rain cedar Jan 31, 2018, 2:30 AM

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I wonder if he did a DMCA for his Cuphead debug mod too

solemn rivet Jan 31, 2018, 2:31 AM

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thinkgrub

buoyant wasp Jan 31, 2018, 2:31 AM

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wouldn't surprise me in the least

royal ridge Jan 31, 2018, 2:33 AM

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Whoa Kein in the Iconoclasts discord wtf; jumping from one game to the next

hollow pier Jan 31, 2018, 2:33 AM

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sounds like every hk speedrunner haha

solemn rivet Jan 31, 2018, 2:35 AM

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So far I very much prefer hk over iconoclasts, but let's not start this discussion

ornate rivet Jan 31, 2018, 4:18 AM

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life is life

deep pilot Jan 31, 2018, 6:55 AM

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A major part of our Nintendo Switch development has been a lot of under-the-hood work on HK, and many of those efficiency upgrades and improvements will be flowing through to Windows, Mac & Linux players. Over the next month or so, those updates will start to be made available through our Steam and GOG beta branches for testing on those platforms.

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So who's ready for all the mods to break?

trim grove Jan 31, 2018, 6:55 AM

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thats why im finishing lightbringer now :^}

rain cedar Jan 31, 2018, 6:57 AM

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This will be better in the long run

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Making mods that do anything significant is way harder than it needs to be with the current game

trim totem Jan 31, 2018, 7:01 AM

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what if it becomes harder tho

trim grove Jan 31, 2018, 7:02 AM

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then modders git gud ofc

soft rain Jan 31, 2018, 7:02 AM

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what if new dating options includes the FSM

rain cedar Jan 31, 2018, 7:02 AM

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There's nothing they could reasonably do to make it harder

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They'd have to try to make it harder

trim grove Jan 31, 2018, 7:02 AM

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which would only make it harder on them as well

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which wouldnt be a smart move

rain cedar Jan 31, 2018, 7:03 AM

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Actually using Playmaker is probably easier for them

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Seeing as they're not programmers

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Makes it a huge pain to mod, though

noble trout Jan 31, 2018, 7:04 AM

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New gamemode is lightbringer

coral fable Jan 31, 2018, 7:08 AM

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Playmaker NotLikeThis

buoyant wasp Jan 31, 2018, 8:11 AM

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would surprise me at all if the 3rd game mode was either a boss rush or a NG+ mode

stiff notch Jan 31, 2018, 8:38 AM

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what else?

copper nacelle Jan 31, 2018, 11:24 AM

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tfw I asked graig if fsms were dead

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and it was yes + instantly deleted message

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except

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Enemy ai still use them

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re

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📎 Screen_Shot_2018-01-31_at_6.25.22_AM.png

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but fsm ded

leaden hedge Jan 31, 2018, 12:05 PM

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He said that ages ago

copper nacelle Jan 31, 2018, 12:05 PM

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re

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fuck

leaden hedge Jan 31, 2018, 12:05 PM

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I said something like fsms are dumb for anything except boss ai

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And he said, that's the only thing still using them

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About a week ago

copper nacelle Jan 31, 2018, 12:06 PM

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oh

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still happy

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die playmaker fsms die

leaden hedge Jan 31, 2018, 12:06 PM

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Meh, that's the main thing we would want to edit anyway

copper nacelle Jan 31, 2018, 12:06 PM

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re

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grimmchild machine gun

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without fsms

leaden hedge Jan 31, 2018, 12:07 PM

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That's not even a pain though

copper nacelle Jan 31, 2018, 12:07 PM

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but it is

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it wouldn't find grimmchild

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and then grimmchild started dying

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maybe I was doing something wrong ¯_(ツ)_/¯

stiff notch Jan 31, 2018, 12:38 PM

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Question: is it easy to alter sprites and sounds in the game for a mod, without wanting to make changes to the core game? Currently no experience with modding.

leaden hedge Jan 31, 2018, 12:38 PM

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no

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from api theres no support for changing spirtes or audio

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you could do it pretty easily though with a bit of unity + this game specific knowledge

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assuming you don't want to resize any sprite boundaries

stiff notch Jan 31, 2018, 12:45 PM

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no changes to hitboxes or anything, just purely graphics and animation wise.

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so it's not actually hard for someone savvy enough, but currently no support so i'd best not bother?

solemn rivet Jan 31, 2018, 12:51 PM

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This game's spritesheet is very hard to edit

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Every small change has to respect the original sheet's boundaries

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Just ask @buoyant obsidian

stiff notch Jan 31, 2018, 12:55 PM

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'boundaries', as in, the outer non-transparent pixels? Or as in, the original canvas?

turbid blaze Jan 31, 2018, 1:03 PM

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Can I ask for help here if I think I got myself stuck in randomizer easy mode?

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or is this modding channel more for developement

leaden hedge Jan 31, 2018, 1:03 PM

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as in each sprite occupies a rectangle in the sheet

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you can't really change thoses easily

stiff notch Jan 31, 2018, 1:05 PM

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i'm not planning to make some sprites 'bigger', so that shouldn't be a problem?

copper nacelle Jan 31, 2018, 1:05 PM

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just make all the sprite sheets black

solemn rivet Jan 31, 2018, 1:05 PM

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Ask away @turbid blaze

copper nacelle Jan 31, 2018, 1:05 PM

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ba bam

solemn rivet Jan 31, 2018, 1:06 PM

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As long as you respect the boundaries, there shouldn't be any problems editing sprites

stiff notch Jan 31, 2018, 1:07 PM

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then the only problem is support? or can i just go in certain game files and start changing?

solemn rivet Jan 31, 2018, 1:07 PM

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What do you mean? From what I know, you can just extract the files, edit them and reinsert them into the resources

leaden hedge Jan 31, 2018, 1:08 PM

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Yeah you can just extract and put them back in

normal oriole Jan 31, 2018, 1:08 PM

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How easy is this game to mod

turbid blaze Jan 31, 2018, 1:09 PM

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Thanks. So for movement abilities I only have mantis claw. I dont have lumify lantern. In my search I ended up in deepnest. I cannot go back up through the hole. I got the tram pass. But from the ancient basin station I cannot go up through the spiky tunnel up to the ciry. and from the kingdoms edge tram stop I cannot jump over a big spike patch.

stiff notch Jan 31, 2018, 1:09 PM

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i'm entirely new to this, so excuse my ignorance 😦

solemn rivet Jan 31, 2018, 1:09 PM

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Installing mods is easy, making mods is hard

stiff notch Jan 31, 2018, 1:09 PM

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any decent tutorials out there?

solemn rivet Jan 31, 2018, 1:10 PM

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Can you pogo on those spikes, kurb?

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Reiny: it's not really hard. Look for UABE and Unity Studio in the pins

turbid blaze Jan 31, 2018, 1:10 PM

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o yeah of course!

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thanks

normal oriole Jan 31, 2018, 1:11 PM

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no they're the one patch of unhoppable spikes

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watch out

stiff notch Jan 31, 2018, 1:11 PM

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thx. will do.

solemn rivet Jan 31, 2018, 1:12 PM

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UABE and Unity Studio can be used to extract resources from the game's files

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You can then edit them using whatever

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And use UABE to reinsert them into the game

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@normal oriole are you looking to mod this game?

normal oriole Jan 31, 2018, 1:14 PM

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no lol I can't do shit with code

stiff notch Jan 31, 2018, 1:15 PM

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@solemn rivet and if it should turn out okay, can it be posted here as a mod? or is it only client side? or will it not be accepted?

solemn rivet Jan 31, 2018, 1:17 PM

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I mean, sure. It's just client side (you're basically changing one of your files) but you can just post that file here

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It's basically how all mods of this game work

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We mod an existing game file, adding and removing stuff, and then just post it here

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Earlier versions of blackmoth had its own title screen

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Maybe I should re-add that

normal oriole Jan 31, 2018, 1:19 PM

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boy howdy

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I wish there was some sort of organizational webpage to list all of the mods and what they do in one neat section

stiff notch Jan 31, 2018, 1:19 PM

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uhm, check the pins?

solemn rivet Jan 31, 2018, 1:20 PM

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There's a list of all the mods in the pins

hazy sentinel Jan 31, 2018, 1:20 PM

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sarcasm imo

stiff notch Jan 31, 2018, 1:20 PM

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that's what i feared. don't we have emotes for that?

solemn rivet Jan 31, 2018, 1:20 PM

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About what they do... Most are self explanatory, and all have a readme

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But sarcasm doesn't even fit the context

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No one asked what a mod does or which mods are there

hazy sentinel Jan 31, 2018, 1:22 PM

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name one person who uses "boy howdy" unsarcastically intenseface

solemn rivet Jan 31, 2018, 1:22 PM

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Point taken

normal oriole Jan 31, 2018, 1:22 PM

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http://www.raindb.net

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You could do something like this

stiff notch Jan 31, 2018, 1:23 PM

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https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B_b9PFqx_PR9Um9MeFZMV21oWGs?usp=sharing

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@hazy sentinel he got me doubting again lol

normal oriole Jan 31, 2018, 1:26 PM

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ew google drive is unorganized and you don't know what each mod is

stiff notch Jan 31, 2018, 1:33 PM

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if the title isn't clear enough, more info is in the readme of each mod. it doesn't look as crisp as raindb, but it fulfills its purpose more than satisfactory.

solemn rivet Jan 31, 2018, 1:34 PM

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But he does have a point

copper nacelle Jan 31, 2018, 1:34 PM

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yeah

solemn rivet Jan 31, 2018, 1:35 PM

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If the community was more fleshed out, we'd benefit from a more organised mod repository

copper nacelle Jan 31, 2018, 1:35 PM

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I could probably make a quick GitHub website thing

leaden hedge Jan 31, 2018, 1:40 PM

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just make a website for every single mod

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that details every single edit in excruciating detail

stiff notch Jan 31, 2018, 1:58 PM

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please, use sarcasm emotes hollowface

leaden hedge Jan 31, 2018, 1:59 PM

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make me hollowface

buoyant wasp Jan 31, 2018, 4:32 PM

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if there were more than a dozen mods, maybe something more formal would make sense

young walrus Jan 31, 2018, 4:35 PM

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a picture book

buoyant wasp Jan 31, 2018, 4:35 PM

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wish we had a more accurate timeline than "soon" on the beta branch

hollow pier Jan 31, 2018, 5:35 PM

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within the foreseeable future

topaz zephyr Jan 31, 2018, 8:03 PM

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boss rush

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How do i equip charms?

young walrus Jan 31, 2018, 8:08 PM

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they're auto equipped

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when you pick them up

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pick them up/choose them

topaz zephyr Jan 31, 2018, 8:09 PM

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oh ok thanks

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 1:23 PM

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so

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all mods are officially on standby untill new content is released, I assume?

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development, at least

buoyant wasp Feb 1, 2018, 3:08 PM

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more or less

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 3:09 PM

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nice

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I really do hope they do something about FSMs tho

buoyant wasp Feb 1, 2018, 3:30 PM

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hard telling what's gonna happen exactly until the beta comes out

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 3:30 PM

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yeah...

buoyant wasp Feb 1, 2018, 3:31 PM

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i mean, i know what kdt has gotten from greig, but until it's in our hands ¯_(ツ)_/¯

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 3:31 PM

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unless someone lets a beta assembly leak specially for the modding community

buoyant wasp Feb 1, 2018, 3:32 PM

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if it were to leak, it'd be an alpha

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beta is when we get it 😉

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 3:32 PM

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but it could be leaked just hours before release

buoyant wasp Feb 1, 2018, 3:33 PM

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honestly, i'm ok with taking a break on it. have other stuff i need to work on anyway hollowface

charred brook Feb 1, 2018, 4:20 PM

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short question what are FMSs? im just curious thinkgrub

young walrus Feb 1, 2018, 4:21 PM

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FSM = Fucking Stupid Module

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 4:23 PM

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kek

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Finite State Machines

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it's basically a graph which describes behaviour

young walrus Feb 1, 2018, 4:24 PM

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FSM's aren't inherently bad. they're just all code "boxes" that do a thing, then can move to another box to do another thing

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they're really great for manufacturing processes

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but for games, things can get a bit.... weird/complicated

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 4:27 PM

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they're a great way to simplify things from a dev pov

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but from our perspective, in which we don't have direct access to the states...

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it sucks, to say the least

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in short, FSMs can be thought of as a flowchart of sorts

young walrus Feb 1, 2018, 4:29 PM

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^

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flowchart is a good way to describe it

charred brook Feb 1, 2018, 4:37 PM

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ah okay is it like a tool for the devs okay thank you omggrub

young walrus Feb 1, 2018, 4:40 PM

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it's more like... a method of coding

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i guess you could call that a tool

simple patio Feb 1, 2018, 4:49 PM

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flowcharts are annoying to make

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god

buoyant wasp Feb 1, 2018, 4:50 PM

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the other problem is that they allow folks to make really buggy implementations of stuff. if you were to look at say, NKG's logic, it's....a disaster

young walrus Feb 1, 2018, 4:54 PM

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yeah. it's a web

cunning basalt Feb 1, 2018, 5:57 PM

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hey guys i know i can visit the drive thing to check but idk how long that would take so imma just ask here, is there already any mods that add any extra areas/story type stuff or maybe even new items ?

young walrus Feb 1, 2018, 5:58 PM

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new areas, no. new items, kinda

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some mods modify what the charms do

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 5:59 PM

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blackmoth and lightbringer

cunning basalt Feb 1, 2018, 5:59 PM

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also another quick question am i save if i use mods on my most used save file and will i be able to continue on it normaly once the new update is here ?

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 5:59 PM

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blackmoth's changes are more straightforward, but lightbringer's are more in-depth

cunning basalt Feb 1, 2018, 5:59 PM

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oh shit sounds cool

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 6:00 PM

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well

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most mods shouldn't hurt your save definitively

buoyant wasp Feb 1, 2018, 6:01 PM

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mods won't break eisting saves

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 6:01 PM

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but best practice is to backup your saves just in case

buoyant wasp Feb 1, 2018, 6:01 PM

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but any save loaded with a mod active is at risk for irreversible changes

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so, yes, in general backup your saves

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 6:02 PM

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also, about updates

buoyant wasp Feb 1, 2018, 6:02 PM

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there is a "more saves" mod that adds more slots to the save screen

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 6:02 PM

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any future update will almost surely break all existing mods

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so, yeah, backup your saves

cunning basalt Feb 1, 2018, 6:02 PM

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oh damn then im gonna try and enjoy them before the new updaye

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will back them up

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thanks guys

buoyant wasp Feb 1, 2018, 6:03 PM

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eh, most mods will likely be updated when the update comes out, there will just likely be a delay of days or weeks before it happens

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depends on how much they break 😃

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 6:03 PM

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if you need help installing mods, just ask here

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^what Wyza said

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the update breaks them, but they can be fixed fairly shortly, depending on how much the update has changed the code

daring snow Feb 1, 2018, 6:05 PM

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Is Blackmore up to date?

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Black moth

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Phone please

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 6:06 PM

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it is

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I still haven't changed the charm descriptions tho

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because I'm a lazy piece of shit and can't code for my life

daring snow Feb 1, 2018, 6:06 PM

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That's fine as long as it's functional 😃

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 6:06 PM

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it is

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iirc, trat0r played it to completion with no issues

daring snow Feb 1, 2018, 6:07 PM

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Sweet

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Might mess with speedrunning it at some point

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 6:07 PM

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schweet

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just get quickdash

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ezpz

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oh

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this is the working ver

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/327461802311155714/407286912135593994/Blackmoth.dll

daring snow Feb 1, 2018, 6:08 PM

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Thanks I'll check it when I'm home!

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 6:08 PM

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I was having issues with shade soul recovering MP, so I had to change some stuff and forgot to re-upload it to gdrive

charred brook Feb 1, 2018, 6:10 PM

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yes blackmoth is working and its pretty amazing hklove

daring snow Feb 1, 2018, 6:11 PM

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Nice! What kind of damage of options does it offer?

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I guess I'll just mess with it when I'm home lol

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 6:11 PM

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dash

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dash

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dash

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spells still work tho

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but, DASH

charred brook Feb 1, 2018, 6:12 PM

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dash the shit out of those enemies dabright

daring snow Feb 1, 2018, 6:12 PM

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squilLUL

warped hollow Feb 1, 2018, 6:22 PM

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yo people

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does anyone have the boss rush mod from this video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDCwyu0b8dE&t=2s

YouTube

Sean Riley

Hollow Knight boss rush mod speedrun 35:46

12:08 actual boss fighting time from adding up the times in the credits. Credit to KeinZantezuken for making this awesome mod. No public download link for it...

▶ Play video

buoyant wasp Feb 1, 2018, 6:25 PM

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some people still have it, but you have to downpatch to a much older version of the game to use it

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the author DMCA'd it, so it only exists in private collections now

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 6:29 PM

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so it doesn't have any new content

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basically, it only works up to cp01

daring snow Feb 1, 2018, 6:30 PM

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But we have a modern boss rush mod lol

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Should probably point him to that

warped hollow Feb 1, 2018, 6:30 PM

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yea but ne modern one is too random and sometimes you dont have any good items

daring snow Feb 1, 2018, 6:31 PM

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Ah I see

warped hollow Feb 1, 2018, 6:31 PM

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btw what does the blackmoth mod add?

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 6:31 PM

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"add" nothing

daring snow Feb 1, 2018, 6:32 PM

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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AtNW0hHHmey9qVrdq1G6f2jzTwpGvlICfssjq7PfK5Y/mobilebasic

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 6:32 PM

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but it does "change" some stuff

daring snow Feb 1, 2018, 6:32 PM

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This is the readme

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I'm reading it now

buoyant wasp Feb 1, 2018, 6:33 PM

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@warped hollow the old one is never going to be updated. it's dead, it's author is gone. You can downpatch to it and find someone to give to you privately, but that's it. any bugs, issues, improvements, etc for it will never be fixed

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 6:33 PM

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^

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while the new one will be kept up-to-date, always

warped hollow Feb 1, 2018, 6:34 PM

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i see...

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wich mod is better: Lightbringer ? Blackmoth ?

buoyant wasp Feb 1, 2018, 6:35 PM

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lol

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that's a totally subjective question

daring snow Feb 1, 2018, 6:35 PM

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I've played an old version of Lightbringer and it was fun

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I haven't tried the new one

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And I'll probably try blackmoth after I finish true ending stuff

vagrant leaf Feb 1, 2018, 6:36 PM

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i would go with lightbringer because imo it's more polished and less glitchy

cunning basalt Feb 1, 2018, 6:38 PM

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guys so i downloaded the zip for lightbringer

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but how do i install it

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i have no idea

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do i unzip it ?

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(also im on mac maybe thats usefull info)

vagrant leaf Feb 1, 2018, 6:38 PM

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uh

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put the Hollow_knight_data file in the lightbringer zip next to the Hollow_knight_data in the hollow knight folder

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not inside of,

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next to

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and replace files when it asks to

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 6:41 PM

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idk if there's a version of lightbringer for mac tho

buoyant wasp Feb 1, 2018, 6:43 PM

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yeah, pretty sure there isn't a lightbringer for mac

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since it doesn't use the API

cunning basalt Feb 1, 2018, 6:44 PM

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so i wont be able to play ?

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damn any other mods that are for mac tho ?

buoyant wasp Feb 1, 2018, 6:44 PM

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any mod that says [API] can be played on mac

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 6:45 PM

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^

hollow pier Feb 1, 2018, 6:45 PM

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lightbringer confirmed bad mod cant play on mac

buoyant wasp Feb 1, 2018, 6:45 PM

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so, pretty much all of them except lightbringer and glass soul

leaden hedge Feb 1, 2018, 6:45 PM

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boss rush isnt that random

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with a great seed you beat it in 20m

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and with a bad one like 35m at most

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 6:47 PM

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if you want to practice bosses, there's debug

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and in bossrush, just aim for MW/MC in order to not get stuck

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aside from that (and any damage upgrade to be able to beat Fluke) it's all nice and easy

cunning basalt Feb 1, 2018, 6:59 PM

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alright this time i downloaded the bonfire mod what do i do to install it ?

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 7:02 PM

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did you install the API?

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also, this:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lX2A8Tegys

YouTube

k0cc4

[Hollow Knight] How to install Boss Rush mod

All the credit for making the modding API and the Boss Rush mod itself goes to Seanpr, Firzen, Wyza and KDT. If you have any further questions, feel free to ...

▶ Play video

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same thing, but with bonfire

cunning basalt Feb 1, 2018, 7:04 PM

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i have the file with API in front of it

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is that enough

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or do i need a installer

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or something like that

young walrus Feb 1, 2018, 7:05 PM

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mickWiggle
watch the video

warped hollow Feb 1, 2018, 7:10 PM

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i dont understand, in the boss rush mod the charms stack?

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 7:11 PM

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what?

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what do you mean?

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everything you pick up is yours for the duration of the run

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and it's all auto equipped

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and can't be removed (since there are no benches)

warped hollow Feb 1, 2018, 7:12 PM

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so i have multiple charms equipped?

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 7:12 PM

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well, every charm you pick up

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so if you pick up multiple charms...

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yeah

warped hollow Feb 1, 2018, 7:12 PM

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oh

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i didnt know

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 7:12 PM

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if you happen to pick up every charm, you'll have all of them equipped

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but that would be stupid

warped hollow Feb 1, 2018, 7:12 PM

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i tought that i can have only one

buoyant wasp Feb 1, 2018, 7:13 PM

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nope, usually be the end of BR, you are broken OP

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like, Fury+Fstrength+pure nail+quickslash+elegy

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 7:14 PM

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unless you make bad choices and get stuck somewhere

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like in Failed Champion without being able to even get to the fight

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or Radiance without any climbing abilities

buoyant wasp Feb 1, 2018, 7:20 PM

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failed champion works now cause you spawn to the left of him

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but radiance is just a learning experience 😉

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 7:20 PM

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oh, didn't know about FC

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that's nice

cunning basalt Feb 1, 2018, 7:21 PM

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uuh guys i think something is wrong

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because even tho i followed the instructions

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i opened the game right now and it just gives me the loading sign forever

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 7:21 PM

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ok

cunning basalt Feb 1, 2018, 7:22 PM

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or the one so you know the game has saved when u sit on a bench

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 7:22 PM

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send us a screenshot of the folder containing hollow_knight.exe

cunning basalt Feb 1, 2018, 7:22 PM

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(i dont have a .exe bc im on mac)

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 7:22 PM

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and also a screenshot of the hollow_knight_data/managed/ folder

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oh

young walrus Feb 1, 2018, 7:22 PM

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that's kinda critical info

cunning basalt Feb 1, 2018, 7:23 PM

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but i did tell you that earlier

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 7:23 PM

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what's the installation path for mac again?

young walrus Feb 1, 2018, 7:23 PM

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3rd pin

cunning basalt Feb 1, 2018, 7:23 PM

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installation path ?

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3rd pin ?

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 7:23 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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did you get the mac version of the API?

cunning basalt Feb 1, 2018, 7:24 PM

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yes

young walrus Feb 1, 2018, 7:24 PM

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and put it NEXT to your HK .app?

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don't put it in the HK .app

cunning basalt Feb 1, 2018, 7:24 PM

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oh damn

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thats my bad then

young walrus Feb 1, 2018, 7:24 PM

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then i believe you have to select both of them and merge

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somehow

cunning basalt Feb 1, 2018, 7:24 PM

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lemme fix that

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oh

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wait

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i did merge them tho

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 7:25 PM

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show us the hk.app containing folder

cunning basalt Feb 1, 2018, 7:26 PM

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📎 Screen_Shot_2018-02-01_at_20.26.12.png

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 7:27 PM

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what about the folder where the app is at?

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also, check if there's a Mods folder inside content/resources/managed/

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if there is, then you probably installed everything correctly

cunning basalt Feb 1, 2018, 7:28 PM

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like this you mean ?

📎 Screen_Shot_2018-02-01_at_20.28.11.png

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i dont have managed insde the recources file

noble trout Feb 1, 2018, 7:30 PM

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If the boss rush mod is going to die because of an official one then we will have 2 dead boss rush mods

buoyant wasp Feb 1, 2018, 7:30 PM

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we don't know what the new 3rd mode is

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(at least not that i'm aware of)

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 7:30 PM

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content/resources/data/managed/

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sorry

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we don't

noble trout Feb 1, 2018, 7:30 PM

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I said "IF the boss rush..."

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 7:30 PM

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rumour is that it's either boss rush or new game+

noble trout Feb 1, 2018, 7:31 PM

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Yeah

cunning basalt Feb 1, 2018, 7:31 PM

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oh yes i found a mods folder inside the managed inside data

noble trout Feb 1, 2018, 7:31 PM

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Or speedrun mode which is also possible but i doubt

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 7:31 PM

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is there anything inside it?

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inb4 zote mode

cunning basalt Feb 1, 2018, 7:32 PM

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empty

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 7:32 PM

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another thing

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is there an Assembly_Csharp.xml file in the /managed/ folder?

cunning basalt Feb 1, 2018, 7:33 PM

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yes

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 7:33 PM

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hm...

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at least the API should be working

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delete that [API] Bonfire-whatever folder you have in that screenshot earlier and then try running the game

cunning basalt Feb 1, 2018, 7:35 PM

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deleted it but it just went back to the spinning loading sign

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 7:36 PM

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That's weird...

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Try verifying game files on steam

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That'll remove the api

cunning basalt Feb 1, 2018, 7:46 PM

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so i did that what now lol

young walrus Feb 1, 2018, 7:48 PM

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Try just loading the game up now

leaden hedge Feb 1, 2018, 7:48 PM

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Boss rush is shit mod anyway intenseface

young walrus Feb 1, 2018, 7:49 PM

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"not my problem"

leaden hedge Feb 1, 2018, 7:49 PM

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I only say not my problem to stuff that isn't my problem

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Like collector being buggy

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 7:50 PM

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@@cunning basalt see if the game runs

cunning basalt Feb 1, 2018, 7:52 PM

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yes it does start now yay

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but i mean normally not with any mods or so

young walrus Feb 1, 2018, 7:54 PM

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Well yeah, but it's a stable place to start

turbid blaze Feb 1, 2018, 7:54 PM

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Well I liked the boss rush KDT. So thanks!

hollow pier Feb 1, 2018, 8:02 PM

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if i have the api installed and no mods does that effect anything

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 8:03 PM

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nope

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now @cunning basalt try installing the API only

hollow pier Feb 1, 2018, 8:03 PM

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will cp3 be good

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too lazy to uninstall even though its easy

young walrus Feb 1, 2018, 8:03 PM

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It affects some things

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But nothing that really matters

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 8:04 PM

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https://drive.google.com/open?id=1E9GFZEWJwYg_Uk7euXXZf91Cv7qOxyEn

Google Docs

[1.2.2.1] Modding API [Mac OS].zip

buoyant wasp Feb 1, 2018, 8:11 PM

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the only "real" change is the mouse cursor works like pre 1.2.2.1. (you can't do speedruns with it though, those have to be vanilla)

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 8:11 PM

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that and you have a MODS option

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and a modlog.txt

hollow pier Feb 1, 2018, 8:11 PM

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oh thats why my mouse wasnt fixed

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was wondering why

daring snow Feb 1, 2018, 8:37 PM

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the dmg tanking in blackmoth farW

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I guess i'm going to try and hit FK's head?

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 8:38 PM

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wut?

daring snow Feb 1, 2018, 8:38 PM

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dashing into false knight just damages you

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so you can't keep that up lol

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 8:38 PM

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you can dash through him

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it's precise, but doable

daring snow Feb 1, 2018, 8:38 PM

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the only part of him i've found I can do it is on his head

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 8:38 PM

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and easier when he's landing from a jump

daring snow Feb 1, 2018, 8:38 PM

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ah I see

leaden hedge Feb 1, 2018, 8:41 PM

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Speed running black moth thinkgrub

daring snow Feb 1, 2018, 8:41 PM

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yeah I don't think it's going to be very fast lol

leaden hedge Feb 1, 2018, 8:42 PM

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Think of the skips though

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Updash into black egg

daring snow Feb 1, 2018, 8:42 PM

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lol in terms of movement it's great

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but boss fights are going to be awful

leaden hedge Feb 1, 2018, 8:42 PM

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You can probably get dreamnail without getting claw or fireball

young walrus Feb 1, 2018, 8:43 PM

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i still need to try bonfire mod

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that'd be a fun one to optimize for runs

daring snow Feb 1, 2018, 8:44 PM

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the balance felt really off to me when I tried it

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since every level you gain increases enemy health / dmg (or something along those lines)

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I guess blackmoth will be a lot easier when you get spells

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 8:44 PM

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it increases health, but very slowly

daring snow Feb 1, 2018, 8:45 PM

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it got pretty noticeable fast

leaden hedge Feb 1, 2018, 8:45 PM

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How do you get soul in blackmoth

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 8:45 PM

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and, tbh, after 20+ levels in bonfire you're pretty much as OP as it gets

daring snow Feb 1, 2018, 8:45 PM

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nail so far - i'm sure there are other methods

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 8:45 PM

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at first, by hitting stuff

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but shade cloak gives you 3 MP per dash

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that's actually a coding limitation

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idk how to make it so that damaging enemies with the dash gives mp

leaden hedge Feb 1, 2018, 8:46 PM

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There's an on damage hook

daring snow Feb 1, 2018, 8:47 PM

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i'll mess with this more later

#

I figured out FK

#

it's not so bad

leaden hedge Feb 1, 2018, 8:47 PM

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That returns damaging FSM and damaged FSM afaik

daring snow Feb 1, 2018, 8:47 PM

#

it will get a lot easier with spells

leaden hedge Feb 1, 2018, 8:47 PM

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So you can just check that damaged is an enemy and damaging type is a dash

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 8:47 PM

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hm... Could work

leaden hedge Feb 1, 2018, 8:47 PM

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That's new in api

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Got it added for HP bars

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 8:48 PM

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I see

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well, I probably won't add that for now

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but that's good to know! Thanks KDT

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what is damaging type under?

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 9:06 PM

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wait, is that the geteventsenderhook you're talking about, @leaden hedge ?

leaden hedge Feb 1, 2018, 9:17 PM

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Yes

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The damage type is just an FSM int on either object

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 9:20 PM

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got it

charred brook Feb 1, 2018, 9:20 PM

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@leaden hedge u can get dreamnail if u have dashmaster in blackmoth

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i think im gonna speedrun blackmoth soon after i finished lightbringer. god muzznik is so hard xD

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 9:46 PM

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well, that was easy enough

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done

#

love that hook

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now you get soul from dashing! Yay!

📎 Blackmoth.dll

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and updated on gdrive too

copper nacelle Feb 1, 2018, 9:54 PM

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nice

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does shade cloak give +3 mp in addition?

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or is it just useless now

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 9:55 PM

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yup

copper nacelle Feb 1, 2018, 9:55 PM

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oh neat

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 9:55 PM

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I figure it's a nice bonus since you have to go waaaay out of the way to get it

copper nacelle Feb 1, 2018, 9:55 PM

#

yeah

charred brook Feb 1, 2018, 9:55 PM

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only from dashing through enemies? thats great

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 9:55 PM

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yup

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tested it and seems to work fine

charred brook Feb 1, 2018, 10:08 PM

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but u still get soul from non dashing through enemies if u have the shade cloak?

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 10:08 PM

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ye

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but only 3

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I couldn't figure a better use for it

charred brook Feb 1, 2018, 10:09 PM

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ah okay seems legit thanks for that happygrub

copper nacelle Feb 1, 2018, 10:29 PM

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@solemn rivet like 3 mp

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as in 11 dashes per spell

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or no

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 10:29 PM

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yeah

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but now it's normal

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11MP per dash

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like vanilla nail

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without shade cloak, that is

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with shade cloak it's 14MP per dash

copper nacelle Feb 1, 2018, 10:31 PM

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neat

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 10:32 PM

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love that method

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took me a while to figure out how it works tho

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*hook

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it takes as input a gameObject and an fsm. From what I could tell, the go is "who" is doing the damaging and the fsm is "who" is getting damaged

copper nacelle Feb 1, 2018, 10:35 PM

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oh that's neat

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you have to specify?

buoyant wasp Feb 1, 2018, 10:36 PM

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no, the function specifies, you just get passed that information to do with what you please

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 10:36 PM

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is what I said more or less correct, Wyza?

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about what the method does

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/hook

buoyant wasp Feb 1, 2018, 10:37 PM

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heck if i know 😛 @leaden hedge just asked that I add it, I didn't really look at exactly how it works 😛

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 10:37 PM

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heheh it's fine

buoyant wasp Feb 1, 2018, 10:37 PM

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FSM is the devil

copper nacelle Feb 1, 2018, 10:38 PM

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correct

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 10:38 PM

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I took a look at how he used it in the HPBars mod and extrapolated from that

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ModHooks.Instance.OnGetEventSenderHook += DashSoul;

private GameObject DashSoul(GameObject go, HutongGames.PlayMaker.Fsm fsm)
{
    if (go == sharpShadow && (FSMUtility.LocateFSM(fsm.GameObject, "health_manager") || FSMUtility.LocateFSM(fsm.GameObject, "health_manager_enemy")))
    {
        HeroController.instance.AddMPChargeSpa(11);
    }
    return go;
}```

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since that worked, I assume it's pretty much what I think it is

leaden hedge Feb 1, 2018, 10:39 PM

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It is

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 10:40 PM

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oh, good

#

thank you once again, KDT. That soul thing has been bothering me ever since I first compiled Blackmoth ages ago

leaden hedge Feb 1, 2018, 10:41 PM

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Well next patch it'll be redundant hollowface

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 10:41 PM

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cryla

buoyant wasp Feb 1, 2018, 10:43 PM

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gonna laugh so hard when we get the next patch and the changes to move away from the FSMs are so bad, that we want the FSMs back

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 10:43 PM

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wait - what do you mean redundant? Is the next patch going to make sharp shadow recover soul as well?

buoyant wasp Feb 1, 2018, 10:43 PM

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no, i think he means that the FSM stuff will go away for this area

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 10:43 PM

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please don't jinx it, Wyza

#

yeah, that's what I thought at first

#

but just to be safe...

buoyant wasp Feb 1, 2018, 10:45 PM

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I'm definitely a "someone stole half the glass" rather than a "glass half full" person. See Title.

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 10:45 PM

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because he said "redundant" and not "useless" or similar stuff

#

heh

leaden hedge Feb 1, 2018, 10:45 PM

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Health will probably be csharp next patch

solemn rivet Feb 1, 2018, 10:45 PM

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gotcha

solemn rivet Feb 2, 2018, 9:30 PM

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wait

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if most of the code is going to the assembly next patch... Do we know if it will be obfuscated or not?

copper nacelle Feb 2, 2018, 9:38 PM

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uh

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I haven't heard anything on it

solemn rivet Feb 2, 2018, 9:39 PM

#

I mean

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it'd make sense, right?

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since now most of their code would be exposed

copper nacelle Feb 2, 2018, 9:40 PM

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I mean everything else isn't obfuscated so far

#

and I don't think fsms were obfuscated but I might be totally wrong

#

probably totally wrong just because I said it

solemn rivet Feb 2, 2018, 9:41 PM

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FSMs have to be dumped during runtime

#

not really obfuscation, but at least they aren't exposed

copper nacelle Feb 2, 2018, 9:41 PM

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that's true

leaden hedge Feb 2, 2018, 10:06 PM

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I mean they could obfuscate it if they really wanted too

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It's not like their code is anything special any one would want to steal

buoyant wasp Feb 2, 2018, 10:18 PM

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even if they did obfuscate it, it wouldn't matter a ton. there are several good de-obfuscators and tools for us to figure out the parts we need to again

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it might take some effort, but i'm not terribly concerned atm

rain cedar Feb 2, 2018, 10:18 PM

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They're not going to, though

buoyant wasp Feb 2, 2018, 10:18 PM

#

yeah, i really doubt they would

ornate rivet Feb 2, 2018, 10:19 PM

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it would make no sense since they support the mods on their blogs

solemn rivet Feb 2, 2018, 10:19 PM

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true

buoyant wasp Feb 2, 2018, 10:19 PM

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honestly, the only reason i could see is if they accidentally checked a checkbox in unity to do it and didn't realize it 😉

ornate rivet Feb 2, 2018, 10:20 PM

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that would seem like something they would do

copper nacelle Feb 2, 2018, 10:20 PM

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lol

solemn rivet Feb 2, 2018, 10:22 PM

#

that's somehow more worrying

copper nacelle Feb 2, 2018, 10:25 PM

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unity has a built in obfuscation thing?

buoyant wasp Feb 2, 2018, 10:32 PM

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dunno, but it wouldn't surprise me

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😛

buoyant obsidian Feb 2, 2018, 11:02 PM

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I don't think so

leaden hedge Feb 2, 2018, 11:57 PM

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it doesn't

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theres like $70 plugins for it

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but who would play $70 for a pointless plugin hollowface

copper nacelle Feb 2, 2018, 11:58 PM

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lmao

trim grove Feb 3, 2018, 12:03 AM

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enough that they exist lul

leaden hedge Feb 3, 2018, 12:10 AM

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it was joke because TC bought PlayMakerFSM

copper nacelle Feb 3, 2018, 12:11 AM

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oof

trim grove Feb 3, 2018, 12:12 AM

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they got thier moneys worth? thinkgrub

leaden hedge Feb 3, 2018, 12:12 AM

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no

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they got negative money most likely

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as they've had to uncode everything they made with fsm

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to get it to run on switch

trim grove Feb 3, 2018, 12:12 AM

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dang game sold less that 70$ of copies? rip

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also yeah

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rip porting

leaden hedge Feb 3, 2018, 12:13 AM

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and a few hours of their time to look up how to implement an fsm wasn't worth $65 hollowface

trim grove Feb 3, 2018, 12:13 AM

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probably

copper nacelle Feb 3, 2018, 12:14 AM

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and it would be way less shit

solemn rivet Feb 3, 2018, 12:50 AM

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I was just trying to figure out what else could go wrong, now that we have a promise that the FSM nightmare is over

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I mean, it's "too good to be true"

copper nacelle Feb 3, 2018, 1:09 AM

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accurate

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tbf it's still there for enemy AIs

solemn rivet Feb 3, 2018, 1:13 AM

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that makes me think that maybe the new mode isn't a Boss Rush

copper nacelle Feb 3, 2018, 1:14 AM

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wait

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I thought it was ng+

leaden hedge Feb 3, 2018, 1:14 AM

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I thought it was tba

copper nacelle Feb 3, 2018, 1:15 AM

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I thought it was tba but everyone has basically assumed it's ng+

leaden hedge Feb 3, 2018, 1:16 AM

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it was gonna be boss rush

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but I hit TC up with my lawyers

copper nacelle Feb 3, 2018, 1:17 AM

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lmao

solemn rivet Feb 3, 2018, 1:19 AM

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you hit them with a dmca

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yes, I'm going there

copper nacelle Feb 3, 2018, 1:29 AM

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oof

buoyant obsidian Feb 3, 2018, 5:31 AM

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The dreaded Boss Rush DMCA

ornate rivet Feb 3, 2018, 4:49 PM

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Turns out the new mode is actually Lightbringer

warped hollow Feb 3, 2018, 6:04 PM

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oh n

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no

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SMASH DAT LIKE BUTTON hollowomg

dapper folio Feb 3, 2018, 6:10 PM

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Ugh, don't remind me about the dmca thing.

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New mode could be glass soul

copper nacelle Feb 3, 2018, 6:11 PM

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new mode could be hell mod intenseface

warped hollow Feb 3, 2018, 6:26 PM

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boss rush or ng+ only

sharp flame Feb 3, 2018, 7:03 PM

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let's not kid ourselves

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new mode is 90% gonna be boss rush

vagrant leaf Feb 3, 2018, 7:11 PM

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kdt suing tc

warped hollow Feb 3, 2018, 7:33 PM

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boss rush or bomb

trim grove Feb 3, 2018, 8:32 PM

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hm. am i missing something here? install the latest api, latest playerdatatracker, get an error and it cant load
[ERROR]:[API] - Error: System.Reflection.ReflectionTypeLoadException: The classes in the module cannot be loaded.
verfied install beforehand, only added those 2

rain cedar Feb 3, 2018, 8:34 PM

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KDT is probably using features from a newer api that Wyza hasn't put in the google drive yet

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Just search for files from wyza in this channel and get the most recent one

trim grove Feb 3, 2018, 8:35 PM

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for the... api yeah?

solemn rivet Feb 3, 2018, 8:35 PM

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Yup

leaden hedge Feb 3, 2018, 8:37 PM

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Wyza updated the api on gdrive recently

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And PDT hasn't been updated for a while

trim grove Feb 3, 2018, 8:37 PM

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still crashes with the same error as well.

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so it might be a PDT issue then?

leaden hedge Feb 3, 2018, 8:38 PM

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I think someone else might have noticed it if it was an actual error

trim grove Feb 3, 2018, 8:39 PM

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hm. ill try another fresh install

leaden hedge Feb 3, 2018, 8:40 PM

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I'd ask wyza about it though, he maintains pdt

trim grove Feb 3, 2018, 8:44 PM

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the install process is still merge api into folder, overwriting
then drag mod into mods folder
yeah?

leaden hedge Feb 3, 2018, 8:46 PM

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Ye

trim grove Feb 3, 2018, 8:47 PM

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same error after a verify files. unless there is some other unlisted dependency

leaden hedge Feb 3, 2018, 8:48 PM

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There is

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It requires a websocket csharp dll

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Should be packaged with it

trim grove Feb 3, 2018, 8:49 PM

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with the api or the pdt

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pdt zip on the drive only has the dll

leaden hedge Feb 3, 2018, 8:49 PM

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PDT

trim grove Feb 3, 2018, 8:49 PM

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er, the PlayerDataDump.dll

leaden hedge Feb 3, 2018, 8:50 PM

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@buoyant wasp

buoyant wasp Feb 3, 2018, 8:54 PM

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mmm

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lemme look

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PlayerDataDumper.dll version 2.4.2.1. See if this works.

📎 PlayerDataDump.dll

trim grove Feb 3, 2018, 8:58 PM

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same error, does that version of the dll still need the websocketdll?

buoyant wasp Feb 3, 2018, 8:59 PM

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yeah

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gimme a few, and i'll load it up locally, see if i can figure out what i broke

trim grove Feb 3, 2018, 8:59 PM

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where would i get that, as its not in the drive zip, unless the oldest version works

buoyant wasp Feb 3, 2018, 8:59 PM

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it's not? boo

trim grove Feb 3, 2018, 8:59 PM

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only thing in that zip is the PDD dll

buoyant wasp Feb 3, 2018, 8:59 PM

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sigh

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Here

📎 1.2.2.1API_Player_Data_Tracker_By_KDT__Wyza_2.4.2.1.zip

trim grove Feb 3, 2018, 9:02 PM

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no more errors 👍

buoyant wasp Feb 3, 2018, 9:03 PM

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cool

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i'll fix the drive

trim grove Feb 3, 2018, 9:32 PM

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hm. after uninstalling lightbringer, my saves nail dmg is still reduced, any way to return that to normal?

copper nacelle Feb 3, 2018, 9:34 PM

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yes

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save editor

trim grove Feb 3, 2018, 9:34 PM

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figured itd be that haha. fair enough. thanks

copper nacelle Feb 3, 2018, 9:35 PM

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yw

trim grove Feb 3, 2018, 9:35 PM

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oh also thanks wyza and kdt for the help with PDT

charred parrot Feb 4, 2018, 12:47 AM

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anyone in here have experience with Playmaker in general?

copper nacelle Feb 4, 2018, 12:48 AM

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everyone who's made a mod has

charred parrot Feb 4, 2018, 12:48 AM

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fair enough

copper nacelle Feb 4, 2018, 12:48 AM

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because playmaker fsms

charred parrot Feb 4, 2018, 12:48 AM

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its just im having an issue with it

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outside of a hollow knight context

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so

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was wondering if it was fair to share my issue considering that

copper nacelle Feb 4, 2018, 12:50 AM

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probably fair

charred parrot Feb 4, 2018, 12:52 AM

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k so basically

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Playmaker seems to be shitting bricks

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I currently only have 4 objects in my scene

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all the same object

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with a sprite renderer, box collider 2d and rigidbody2d

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they also all have an FSM

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with the start state setting a velocity for them

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📎 unknown.png

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ignore the arrow coming from the left

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ive disabled those in an attempt to figure out these issues

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so basically I just have 4 objects moving across the scene wth a set velocity

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and im only getting 15 frames

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📎 unknown.png

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here's what the profiler is giving me

solemn rivet Feb 4, 2018, 1:10 AM

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Do you have any kind of log or info dump?

charred parrot Feb 4, 2018, 1:10 AM

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how would I get such a thing? Sorry, a bit of a n00blet at this stuff.

solemn rivet Feb 4, 2018, 1:11 AM

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I've never worked with unity

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Just thought that might help someone who actually knows how that stuff works

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Since what you described doesn't exactly give us enough info to figure out what's wrong

sharp flame Feb 4, 2018, 1:15 AM

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quick n00b question

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how do i unhide the debug mod UI

hazy sentinel Feb 4, 2018, 1:15 AM

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F1

sharp flame Feb 4, 2018, 1:15 AM

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thanks

topaz herald Feb 4, 2018, 3:21 AM

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n00b question going to install HK and want to install debug mod too but it is telling me 9GB required just for HK and then I need to copy it b4 modding it right, will it work properly if I don't install it in program file cos I only have 20GB left

rain cedar Feb 4, 2018, 3:22 AM

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You don't have to copy the full game installation, just one assembly file

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And yeah as long as you've got steam set up to look in other places it could be on another drive

topaz herald Feb 4, 2018, 3:23 AM

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which file do I want to copy when the installation is done?

rain cedar Feb 4, 2018, 3:28 AM

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assembly-csharp.dll

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It's in the managed folder

topaz herald Feb 4, 2018, 3:31 AM

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ok thanks 😃

topaz herald Feb 4, 2018, 3:50 AM

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sorry I am really bad at this kind ofthing where am I putting the contents of the debug mod zip file?

copper nacelle Feb 4, 2018, 3:50 AM

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the debug mod zip has some stuff in a folder called Mods

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just copy the Mods folder in the debug mod zip

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into your Managed folder

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if it askes to merge, do so - if it doesn't that's fine as well

topaz herald Feb 4, 2018, 3:52 AM

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the managed folder of the original or of the stuff I copied?

copper nacelle Feb 4, 2018, 3:52 AM

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after you copy the assembly-csharp of the mod api into the managed folder of hk

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you copy the Mods folder into that same folder

topaz herald Feb 4, 2018, 4:06 AM

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can't find this assembly-csharp of mod API there is one in original game but not in mod api folder

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the only thing there is debugmod.dll

copper nacelle Feb 4, 2018, 4:13 AM

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that's the debug mod thing

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to use debug mode you need the modding api

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you can get that in the google drive

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make sure to get the correct version

#

@topaz herald

topaz herald Feb 4, 2018, 5:04 AM

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i'm so confused i can't get this to work at all

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I d/l ed the stuff from google drive but game appears no different when I start it on top of this controller is refusing to work

young walrus Feb 4, 2018, 5:13 AM

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did you watch the pinned video?

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it's step by step how to install API mods

topaz herald Feb 4, 2018, 5:24 AM

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going through it now think I must have d/l ed the wrong thing someone last time

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ok cool working 😃

copper nacelle Feb 4, 2018, 6:10 AM

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nice

warped hollow Feb 4, 2018, 10:56 AM

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guys when you pause the game in options you can find a "mods" option, does that even work?

ornate rivet Feb 4, 2018, 2:40 PM

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it should as far as I remember

#

is there a way to get the sprites for hungry knight?

solemn rivet Feb 4, 2018, 4:26 PM

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It works wit any mods whose name begins with a B, @warped hollow

copper nacelle Feb 4, 2018, 4:33 PM

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@warped hollow it works with mods which have implemented the required stuff for it

buoyant wasp Feb 4, 2018, 5:31 PM

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really, that option shouldn't show in the pause screen, I just haven't gotten around to taking it away

spring kestrel Feb 4, 2018, 6:08 PM

#

Hi all, wondering if anyone from modding can help me with the following issue: https://www.reddit.com/r/HollowKnight/comments/7uflqr/bugspoiler_cant_100_the_game_because_of_this/ . Had someone comment to try and see if I can get some help here 😃

[Bug][Spoiler] - Can't 100% the game because of this issue. Doesn't seem there's any way to fix it. • r/HollowKnight

I have a very strange issue in my game that I did not notice until later [Spoiler:](/s "When I got my dream nail to 1800 essence, I got the...

dapper folio Feb 4, 2018, 6:10 PM

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try the debug mod?

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pretty sure it lets you manually get upgrades

spring kestrel Feb 4, 2018, 6:19 PM

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Will I have to always have the mod enabled to fix the upgrade not being there?

dapper folio Feb 4, 2018, 6:21 PM

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i wouldn't think so

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stuff like the upgrades basically just need switches flipped

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your game accidentally flipped yours back and the mod will flip it to where it's supposed to be

hazy sentinel Feb 4, 2018, 6:21 PM

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🅱ool

spring kestrel Feb 4, 2018, 6:55 PM

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Thank you! The debug mod worked 👌

buoyant wasp Feb 4, 2018, 6:57 PM

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yeah, most things that mods do to saves are permanent, both good and bad

#

the save editor probably would work just as well too

spring kestrel Feb 4, 2018, 7:11 PM

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If I hide the modding menu, how do I bring it back? Don't see it mentioned in the readmes

vagrant leaf Feb 4, 2018, 7:13 PM

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for debug?

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for debug it's f1

spring kestrel Feb 4, 2018, 7:16 PM

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Yup; that worked

buoyant wasp Feb 5, 2018, 12:09 AM

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modders can, yes

hollow pier Feb 5, 2018, 12:09 AM

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wowee

leaden hedge Feb 5, 2018, 12:09 AM

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Deleted

hollow pier Feb 5, 2018, 12:09 AM

#

how do i know it was you

leaden hedge Feb 5, 2018, 12:09 AM

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Get out of my Christian modding server you satanist

buoyant wasp Feb 5, 2018, 12:09 AM

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pretty sure you don't

#

there is an audit log

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for the site admin

solemn rivet Feb 5, 2018, 12:29 AM

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I missed something

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noot

leaden hedge Feb 5, 2018, 12:35 AM

#

Memes

leaden hedge Feb 5, 2018, 1:35 AM

#

📎 unknown.png

hollow pier Feb 5, 2018, 1:35 AM

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report it too

exotic venture Feb 5, 2018, 1:35 AM

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hold shift

vagrant leaf Feb 5, 2018, 1:35 AM

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no pls

exotic venture Feb 5, 2018, 1:35 AM

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to delete faster

#

nice

copper nacelle Feb 5, 2018, 1:35 AM

#

📎 Screen_Shot_2018-02-04_at_8.35.34_PM.png

vagrant leaf Feb 5, 2018, 1:35 AM

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oh shit he done it

leaden hedge Feb 5, 2018, 1:35 AM

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quick delet boys

marble scarab Feb 5, 2018, 1:35 AM

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kdt ur mods have BAD

leaden hedge Feb 5, 2018, 1:36 AM

#

ur mum has bad

copper nacelle Feb 5, 2018, 1:36 AM

#

no u

exotic venture Feb 5, 2018, 1:36 AM

#

ouch

leaden hedge Feb 5, 2018, 1:36 AM

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get out of my christian modding channel with ur memes

copper nacelle Feb 5, 2018, 1:36 AM

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no u

hollow pier Feb 5, 2018, 1:36 AM

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kdt ur memes r bad

leaden hedge Feb 5, 2018, 1:36 AM

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no

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my memes are top tier

mortal horizon Feb 5, 2018, 1:37 AM

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kdt ur mods r good 😃

leaden hedge Feb 5, 2018, 1:37 AM

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wow thanks

fast geyser Feb 5, 2018, 1:37 AM

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kdt ur good

leaden hedge Feb 5, 2018, 1:37 AM

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lets not get ahead of ourselves

fast geyser Feb 5, 2018, 1:37 AM

#

outselves

hollow pier Feb 5, 2018, 1:37 AM

#

outselves

mortal horizon Feb 5, 2018, 1:37 AM

#

outshelves

leaden hedge Feb 5, 2018, 1:38 AM

#

outshelves

#

I can only type number fast

mortal horizon Feb 5, 2018, 1:38 AM

#

outshelved

exotic venture Feb 5, 2018, 1:38 AM

#

hey kdt hpbar mod is my favorite mod

leaden hedge Feb 5, 2018, 1:38 AM

#

all mods are my favourite mods

hollow pier Feb 5, 2018, 1:38 AM

#

key kdt lightbringer is my favourite mod

leaden hedge Feb 5, 2018, 1:38 AM

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except lightbringer intenseface

ornate rivet Feb 5, 2018, 1:38 AM

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I cant say KDT's mods are bad because he made NGG

hollow pier Feb 5, 2018, 1:39 AM

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kdt cant even beat ngg smh bad modder

leaden hedge Feb 5, 2018, 1:39 AM

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prove it

#

you can't prove I can't beat it

hollow pier Feb 5, 2018, 1:40 AM

#

thinkgrub

#

prove that you can

exotic venture Feb 5, 2018, 1:41 AM

#

debug mod dot dll

solemn rivet Feb 5, 2018, 1:41 AM

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the fact that he can't prove that he can, doesn't prove that he can't

stray mirage Feb 5, 2018, 3:19 AM

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here's an idea

#

make hollow knight educational

#

good for the children

copper nacelle Feb 5, 2018, 3:20 AM

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no thanks

stray mirage Feb 5, 2018, 3:20 AM

#

think about it

#

pale king teaches typing

copper nacelle Feb 5, 2018, 3:20 AM

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lmao

fair rampart Feb 5, 2018, 3:21 AM

#

mantis lords calculus adventure

vagrant leaf Feb 5, 2018, 3:24 AM

#

learn to count with watcher knights

hollow pier Feb 5, 2018, 3:24 AM

#

geography with cornifer

vagrant leaf Feb 5, 2018, 3:24 AM

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ancient history w/ lemm

#

geometry with nailmasters

hazy sentinel Feb 5, 2018, 3:26 AM

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how to scam gullible customers with sly

vagrant leaf Feb 5, 2018, 3:26 AM

#

basics of pi with dung defender

hazy sentinel Feb 5, 2018, 3:27 AM

#

memes in #archived-modding-development with verulean

vagrant leaf Feb 5, 2018, 3:29 AM

#

verulean puts memes everywhere

#

he has no restrictions

#

wait

#

oh

#

you are verulean

#

fuck

limpid sand Feb 5, 2018, 9:53 AM

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hi whats the hud button for debug mod?

rain cedar Feb 5, 2018, 9:55 AM

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Default is f1

limpid sand Feb 5, 2018, 9:55 AM

#

ok

#

does nothing

rain cedar Feb 5, 2018, 9:57 AM

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Then you rebound it or installed it wrong

limpid sand Feb 5, 2018, 9:57 AM

#

prob the second one

#

new to this

rain cedar Feb 5, 2018, 9:57 AM

#

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lX2A8Tegys

YouTube

k0cc4

[Hollow Knight] How to install Boss Rush mod

All the credit for making the modding API and the Boss Rush mod itself goes to Seanpr, Firzen, Wyza and KDT. If you have any further questions, feel free to ...

▶ Play video

limpid sand Feb 5, 2018, 10:01 AM

#

thank you

#

computers a bit old so cant handle mods zote

#

hollowlenny

#

thanks for the help tho

humble sinew Feb 5, 2018, 10:51 AM

#

I finally have switched to a windows computer
I CAN FINALLY USE MODS

regal raft Feb 5, 2018, 11:28 AM

#

hollowknice

buoyant wasp Feb 5, 2018, 4:20 PM

#

@limpid sand - If your PC can handle HK, then it can handle Mods. The mods (as a general rule) do not increase the technical requirements of the game.

#

@humble sinew - most mods work on PC and Mac btw. Only the 753 ones don't. 😛

hollow pier Feb 5, 2018, 4:47 PM

#

play lightbringer

exotic venture Feb 5, 2018, 4:52 PM

#

play it before it's obsolete due to fsm dropping

hollow pier Feb 5, 2018, 4:54 PM

#

play boss rush before its obsolete due to the new official game mode hollowomg

buoyant obsidian Feb 5, 2018, 5:28 PM

#

what if I die in a freak accident and Lightbringer disappears forever? Go play it now before that

exotic venture Feb 5, 2018, 5:30 PM

#

it'll still be up on indiedb

#

checkm8

hollow pier Feb 5, 2018, 5:31 PM

#

inDIEdb

#

haha get it

dim shard Feb 5, 2018, 8:08 PM

#

guys, in what folder am I supposed to unzip the mod files? API seems to work on my end - I see "Mods" under Options inside the game although it's empty (plus an indication in top left corner of the screen), but the debug mod doesn't seem to work for me

#

(I'm on Windows 10)

young walrus Feb 5, 2018, 8:11 PM

#

mickWiggle
watch the video in pins

dim shard Feb 5, 2018, 8:17 PM

#

I just did before joining the channel here on Discord, the Debug mod file I got doesn't have the "hollow_knight_Data" folder like the Boss Rush mod in the video

#

this is where I got it from, I believe it's the original source, no? -> https://github.com/seanpr96/DebugMod

GitHub

seanpr96/DebugMod

DebugMod - Debug Mod for Hollow Knight

young walrus Feb 5, 2018, 8:22 PM

#

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B_b9PFqx_PR9Um9MeFZMV21oWGs

#

take it from here

dim shard Feb 5, 2018, 8:24 PM

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thanks! I'll test it now

#

oh, now it worked, thanks a lot for the amazing help @young walrus :)!

solemn rivet Feb 5, 2018, 8:36 PM

#

Also, if you, for some reason, only have a .dll for a mod, you can just put in inside /hollow_knight_data/managed/mods and it should work

fresh furnace Feb 6, 2018, 3:12 AM

#

how do i remove the UI

hollow pier Feb 6, 2018, 3:12 AM

#

f1

fresh furnace Feb 6, 2018, 3:12 AM

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it dioesnt remove the base UI

#

i mean like the health bars

hollow pier Feb 6, 2018, 3:12 AM

#

f13

fresh furnace Feb 6, 2018, 3:13 AM

#

thinkgrub

#

im guessing you can't then

hollow pier Feb 6, 2018, 3:13 AM

#

try every f

leaden hedge Feb 6, 2018, 3:17 AM

#

whic hhealth bars

#

mine?

hollow pier Feb 6, 2018, 3:17 AM

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no 56's

hazy sentinel Feb 6, 2018, 3:20 AM

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there's a kinda wonky way to remove UI in vanilla game

grim plover Feb 6, 2018, 4:46 PM

#

Hey is there a list of changed/added charms in lightbringer ?

dapper folio Feb 6, 2018, 5:00 PM

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nope, that's all part of the fun

grim plover Feb 6, 2018, 5:09 PM

#

Yeah i was just wondering if Longnail is gone 😄

leaden hedge Feb 6, 2018, 5:09 PM

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it'll probably do something else

#

just make a copy of a 106% save and load the copy

#

and see what everything does if you really want to know

grim plover Feb 6, 2018, 5:11 PM

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Ooooh thats one way to do it thanks !

dapper folio Feb 6, 2018, 5:48 PM

#

a lot fo the charms got replaced

#

stuff that doesn't make sense with a ranged weapon have been changed

digital axle Feb 6, 2018, 8:22 PM

#

i want to install bonfire mod but i couldn't do that anyone can help me?

rain cedar Feb 6, 2018, 8:29 PM

#

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lX2A8Tegys

YouTube

k0cc4

[Hollow Knight] How to install Boss Rush mod

All the credit for making the modding API and the Boss Rush mod itself goes to Seanpr, Firzen, Wyza and KDT. If you have any further questions, feel free to ...

▶ Play video

dapper shell Feb 6, 2018, 9:35 PM

#

Deos debug mod not work? cant seem to get it open in game

young walrus Feb 6, 2018, 9:35 PM

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^watch the above video

exotic venture Feb 6, 2018, 9:35 PM

#

it should, did ya place it in the mods folder?

#

it's a separate download

young walrus Feb 6, 2018, 9:35 PM

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make sure you installed both the API and the mod itself

#

title screen should show loaded mods in top left corner

#

if they're not there, you didn't install it right

dapper shell Feb 6, 2018, 9:36 PM

#

Ah okay ty

digital axle Feb 6, 2018, 9:45 PM

#

it crashes

📎 2018-02-07.png

young walrus Feb 6, 2018, 9:45 PM

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what's in the API folder there?

exotic venture Feb 6, 2018, 9:46 PM

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says bonfire right on it

#

pls

young walrus Feb 6, 2018, 9:46 PM

#

mickRly

#

yeah, but did he remove contents, or is that the full folder

#

also, your modding API says 1.2.1.4

#

that's not going to work with current patch

exotic venture Feb 6, 2018, 9:47 PM

#

^

young walrus Feb 6, 2018, 9:47 PM

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make sure you downloaded 1.2.2.1

exotic venture Feb 6, 2018, 9:47 PM

#

wanted to ask if you had the current api

#

and not an old one

young walrus Feb 6, 2018, 9:47 PM

#

you can see it in the background

digital axle Feb 6, 2018, 9:47 PM

#

i ll try

#

i tried with 1.2.2.1 modding api but it didn't work

📎 2018-02-07_2.png

exotic venture Feb 6, 2018, 9:53 PM

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try verifying game cache

#

delete the mods folder

#

then reinstall the api

#

this will give you a clean slate to work with

#

then you first try launching with API

#

then you launch with a mod

#

one at a time

#

so you can determine where it goes wrong

young walrus Feb 6, 2018, 9:54 PM

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windows?

#

steam?

exotic venture Feb 6, 2018, 9:54 PM

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uh, steam

young walrus Feb 6, 2018, 9:54 PM

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....why am i asking