#archived-modding-development | Hollow Knight | Page 42

buoyant wasp Dec 5, 2017, 7:57 AM

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yeah, game supports 7, that thing has like 50?

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idk, it's alot

rain cedar Dec 5, 2017, 7:58 AM

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Probably just however many the SystemLanguage enum has

buoyant wasp Dec 5, 2017, 7:58 AM

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probably

warped sinew Dec 5, 2017, 9:41 AM

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do i need to use the mod installer now days?

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i want to install KDT boss rush

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or do i just overwrite the files?

rain cedar Dec 5, 2017, 9:43 AM

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Mod installer is pretty obsolete

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You just copy the stuff in

warped sinew Dec 5, 2017, 9:43 AM

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oh ok

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so i put the files in the dir and nothing has changed

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im on 1.2.2.1

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is there a trick to getting the api to work?

rain cedar Dec 5, 2017, 9:54 AM

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No, you just paste the stuff in

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Is there anything in the top left of your main menu?

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Oh, I see, Wyza messed up when making the zip for it

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You want to get the hollow_knight_Data folder from inside OutputFinal and paste that in

warped sinew Dec 5, 2017, 10:02 AM

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ok it worked thank you 😃

warped sinew Dec 5, 2017, 10:32 AM

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is there a way to switch between multiple mods?

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i have NGG and bossrush installed but it just loads the boss rush

rain cedar Dec 5, 2017, 10:34 AM

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Not currently, no

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But if you make it to NK Grimm in the boss rush NGG should still work

warped sinew Dec 5, 2017, 10:34 AM

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oh right i see

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anyone got a 105% file? i dont have one currently. I want to try out NGG

void tree Dec 5, 2017, 10:36 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/283467985224466442/373470181671829504/user1.dat

warped sinew Dec 5, 2017, 10:36 AM

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thx!

noble trout Dec 5, 2017, 10:36 AM

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hey graig

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i just finished the achievement

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about to be done with millibelle

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ok imagine this everyone

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a coding language but instead of a " ; " at the end there is " & knuckles "

copper nacelle Dec 5, 2017, 1:02 PM

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better yet try brainfuck, it's a wonderful language

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or emoji code

late sphinx Dec 5, 2017, 1:09 PM

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brainfukc

empty stratus Dec 5, 2017, 1:30 PM

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The most difficult part in translation is the poems. Wtf, I can't wrote things like that in other languages.

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📎 Screenshot_2017-12-04-22-39-03_com.google.android.youtube.png

leaden hedge Dec 5, 2017, 1:30 PM

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roses are red, violets are blue お前はもう死んでいる

empty stratus Dec 5, 2017, 1:30 PM

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Damt, I'm a weeb and I don't know Japanese.

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はとやさ

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The second I know its like "to" and the 4th sounds like umm "chi"?

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Am I right?

leaden hedge Dec 5, 2017, 1:32 PM

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no

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thats hatoyasa

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ち is chi

empty stratus Dec 5, 2017, 1:33 PM

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Oh wait!

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I understood what you wrote.

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Use I'm a weeb it looked familiar

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But omae was mou shinde iru

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..

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@leaden hedge at least I was close.

exotic venture Dec 5, 2017, 1:34 PM

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i think i can manage to translate that poem in Dutch

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but the meaning would be altered

empty stratus Dec 5, 2017, 1:34 PM

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With beads?

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Wow.

exotic venture Dec 5, 2017, 1:35 PM

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beads?

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o.o

empty stratus Dec 5, 2017, 1:36 PM

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Holle ridder lol.

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But at least Dutch and English are European languages unlike Hebrew. Dutch and English are pretty new compare to the 4000 years of Hebrew.

exotic venture Dec 5, 2017, 1:38 PM

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"Ohhh, begraaf mijn moeder, wit en licht,
begraaf mijn vader, met zijn ogen dicht.
Begraaf mijn zussen, zij aan zij,
en wanneer je klaar bent, doe hetzelfde met mij!"

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it's slightly altered, translating is hard.

empty stratus Dec 5, 2017, 1:40 PM

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📎 Screenshot_2017-12-05-15-39-49_com.android.chrome.png

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Wow. Almost the same. Well done buddy

exotic venture Dec 5, 2017, 1:40 PM

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the rhyme is hard to get

empty stratus Dec 5, 2017, 1:41 PM

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Yes it's 3:40 PM here lol. And the Google translate is in Hebrew.

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And Idk why I have 23 open windows.

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But who cares anyway

exotic venture Dec 5, 2017, 1:41 PM

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the question isn't "why", it's "why not"

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if you can have 23 open tabs, why not have them open

empty stratus Dec 5, 2017, 1:42 PM

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Umm. Because it will take some RAM? And I have OCD

exotic venture Dec 5, 2017, 1:42 PM

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i'd love to attempt to translate HK in Dutch, but doing it solo?

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nehhhh

empty stratus Dec 5, 2017, 1:43 PM

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Don't worry, translating is fun + if you will ask a friend I'm sure he will gladly accept the offer.

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And you can always stop if you don't have fun, just take the time with it.

exotic venture Dec 5, 2017, 1:44 PM

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depends if there's Dutchies here, heh

empty stratus Dec 5, 2017, 1:44 PM

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Also an option, find someone here.

exotic venture Dec 5, 2017, 1:45 PM

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there was one Dutch guy here, dunno if he's up for it though

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maybe i'll just start sometime and continue from there

empty stratus Dec 5, 2017, 1:45 PM

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This is a pretty big server so im sure there is one more.

leaden hedge Dec 5, 2017, 1:45 PM

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dunno if there would be a lot of interest in dutch

exotic venture Dec 5, 2017, 1:46 PM

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that too

leaden hedge Dec 5, 2017, 1:46 PM

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its like swedish / danish, pretty much everyone already speaks english

exotic venture Dec 5, 2017, 1:46 PM

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well, it would mean my sister would play it

leaden hedge Dec 5, 2017, 1:46 PM

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atleast anyone intending to play english games hollowface

empty stratus Dec 5, 2017, 1:46 PM

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@noble trout translated the menu first so it will fun to watch and easy to test, you can do this too.

exotic venture Dec 5, 2017, 1:47 PM

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oh, main menu?

empty stratus Dec 5, 2017, 1:47 PM

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Yep.

exotic venture Dec 5, 2017, 1:47 PM

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that's not that hard...

empty stratus Dec 5, 2017, 1:47 PM

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Also translating the little things execpt the test is fine for doing solo.

exotic venture Dec 5, 2017, 1:47 PM

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might just do that

empty stratus Dec 5, 2017, 1:48 PM

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I know it's not. We translated more of course 3/4 of the achievements, some bosses...

leaden hedge Dec 5, 2017, 1:49 PM

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how does RtL work with stuff thats already aligned in a certain way

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like for instance the options

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its like

Language          English

would it be

Hebrew           Language

noble trout Dec 5, 2017, 1:50 PM

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@empty stratus dude i forgot to tell you i finished 100% of achievements

empty stratus Dec 5, 2017, 1:50 PM

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@leaden hedge it's still fun to see a game in your language, In Israel there are 9 million people, it's nothing but we still translating for them. Even if one or two kids will read our translation we will be happy.

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@noble trout Sweet! Let's finish with the bosses and get into the real shit.

noble trout Dec 5, 2017, 1:51 PM

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Which we already have the font

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Only thing left is some cosing and changing the font

📎 unknown-1.png

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I also finished translating the banker

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Are you working atm?

empty stratus Dec 5, 2017, 1:53 PM

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Yeah, I will find a font ( I can create one but it will take a week or two)

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I've don't it in the past but I don't quite remember how to do it.

leaden hedge Dec 5, 2017, 1:54 PM

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there will probably already be a font that looks good

empty stratus Dec 5, 2017, 1:55 PM

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We searched for two minutes, I'm sure there is but I don't know where to find it. Like, we don't have a lot of fonts in Hebrew.

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Im using Dafont for pretty much everything but they don't have Hebrew fonts.

surreal helm Dec 5, 2017, 1:56 PM

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Hey are there no ghost bosses in the boss rush?

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I miss no eyes

leaden hedge Dec 5, 2017, 1:56 PM

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no

surreal helm Dec 5, 2017, 1:57 PM

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It's because I completed it yesterday and I expected them

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But w/e it was really fun

leaden hedge Dec 5, 2017, 1:57 PM

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I saw that @royal ridge

royal ridge Dec 5, 2017, 1:57 PM

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I thought it said him

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not them

surreal helm Dec 5, 2017, 1:58 PM

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...

noble trout Dec 5, 2017, 2:00 PM

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Guys that is the font i chose tell me if it fits i think you could judge this as it is just a font

📎 hadasimclm.zip

empty stratus Dec 5, 2017, 2:04 PM

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Ho so we went on הדסים

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?

noble trout Dec 5, 2017, 2:09 PM

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Yup

rain cedar Dec 5, 2017, 3:52 PM

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I can't find any way at all to create a TMP_FontAsset programmatically

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Which is a problem since that's what the dialog boxes use

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So I guess it's not just Unity that's fucking garbage, it's any library that's meant for use in Unity as well

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I mean seriously how hard is it to just make your shitty proprietary Font class work at runtime and not just in editor?

leaden hedge Dec 5, 2017, 4:03 PM

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TMP is free now

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you can probably just run it in editor and export an asset

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then import that

rain cedar Dec 5, 2017, 4:04 PM

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Wow I just assume anything with "Pro" in the name costs at least $100

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Still a pain in the ass

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I mean I have a perfectly good ttf file

leaden hedge Dec 5, 2017, 4:07 PM

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playmaker is like $75

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despite being like 7 lines of actual code

rain cedar Dec 5, 2017, 4:07 PM

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Haha wow Team Cherry paid money for that garbage

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They're even worse at decision making than I thought

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I guess next step is figuring out how the editor even works

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Probably poorly given how the code side of Unity works

noble trout Dec 5, 2017, 4:58 PM

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Oh sorry i didnt see anything

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Did you solve the problem?

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Can you send me a gif of how the banker talks?

rain cedar Dec 5, 2017, 5:02 PM

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I've built an asset bundle but I'm still trying to get it to actually load the font

empty stratus Dec 5, 2017, 5:10 PM

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@rain cedar thanks for everything.

rain cedar Dec 5, 2017, 5:12 PM

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Yeah no problem

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Although I will say this is more work than I thought I was getting into

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Mainly because Unity is built to be used within the editor mainly

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It's terrible trying to do anything at runtime

empty stratus Dec 5, 2017, 5:18 PM

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Really? I thought unity is really good and advanced..

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Is VST good?

rain cedar Dec 5, 2017, 5:23 PM

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By that you mean visual studio?

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They're not really comparable but yeah visual studio is pretty good

empty stratus Dec 5, 2017, 5:25 PM

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Yes visual studio.. and why I need it to be comparable. I'm only coding in c#

rain cedar Dec 5, 2017, 5:26 PM

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It just seems like a random leap from unity to vs

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The font has Texture2D and Material components and I can load those fine but not the actual font for some reason

exotic venture Dec 5, 2017, 6:17 PM

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@empty stratus @noble trout I haven't found anyone yet, but I'll commence translating on Thursday

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or, at least the title screen, just so I can get an idea of the amount of work

empty stratus Dec 5, 2017, 6:26 PM

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@exotic venture good luck dude, msg me if you need help with something i will gladly help you if i can

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@rain cedar You think other font will work better?

rain cedar Dec 5, 2017, 6:28 PM

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Nah the problem is Unity and TextMesh Pro

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Font is fine

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There's bound to be some way to make it work

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The biggest problem with Unity is honestly the userbase, not the actual software

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They're all idiots who have no desire to think for themselves

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So if you want to do something in script rather than in editor chances are you're the first who's ever tried to do that and there will be literally no resources online

leaden hedge Dec 5, 2017, 6:31 PM

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me no code

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me only use prefabs

buoyant wasp Dec 5, 2017, 6:32 PM

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Unity is a double edged sword

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it allows for historically non-programmers to build games which gives us things like Hollow Knight (which while amusingly broken at times, is why we're all in this discord)

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sadly that means that you get alot of folks that have no business building stuff doing things in really poor ways

empty stratus Dec 5, 2017, 6:33 PM

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also the sword of Maul. and he looks badass

buoyant wasp Dec 5, 2017, 6:35 PM

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I'm sure that should mean something to me, but it doesn't

rain cedar Dec 5, 2017, 6:36 PM

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Best thing I can think of is darth maul and his twinblade lightsaber

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But that's not what double edged sword means

empty stratus Dec 5, 2017, 6:42 PM

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wait. so can i do something with your problem @rain cedar ?

rain cedar Dec 5, 2017, 6:42 PM

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Not unless you have experience with creating asset bundles and loading TMP_FontAsset resources from them

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It's a very specific problem

empty stratus Dec 5, 2017, 6:43 PM

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oh then sorry. told here before i dont know a lot about progrmming

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only some basics like int, string, double, floating point and print

rain cedar Dec 5, 2017, 6:45 PM

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No worries

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It's fine to be a beginner

empty stratus Dec 5, 2017, 6:47 PM

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gui will work on unity?

rain cedar Dec 5, 2017, 6:47 PM

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What do you mean?

empty stratus Dec 5, 2017, 6:48 PM

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphical_user_interface

Graphical user interface

The graphical user interface (GUI ), is a type of user interface that allows users to interact with electronic devices through graphical icons and visual indicators such as secondary notation, instead of text-based user interfaces, typed command ...

rain cedar Dec 5, 2017, 6:48 PM

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Well yeah I know what it stands for

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What do you mean by it in this context?

empty stratus Dec 5, 2017, 6:49 PM

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like true type/ open type file

exotic venture Dec 5, 2017, 6:50 PM

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you wanna look how the menu looks with your font

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that fair to say?

rain cedar Dec 5, 2017, 6:50 PM

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Ah ok

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No, ttf does not work

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You're not meant to be able to load fonts at runtime so you have to jump through a lot of hoops to do it

empty stratus Dec 5, 2017, 6:51 PM

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oh, well.

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THANKS A LOT UNITY

exotic venture Dec 5, 2017, 6:51 PM

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unity uses otf btw

rain cedar Dec 5, 2017, 6:51 PM

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Either way

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The way the game is set up there is a very specific single thing that will work

empty stratus Dec 5, 2017, 6:52 PM

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thats whay i said @exotic venture

exotic venture Dec 5, 2017, 6:52 PM

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oh ok

empty stratus Dec 5, 2017, 6:52 PM

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otf = open type file

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https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/class-Font.html can this help? there is a lot of information there.

rain cedar Dec 5, 2017, 6:56 PM

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That's actually completely unrelated

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http://digitalnativestudios.com/textmeshpro/docs/ScriptReference/TextMeshProFont.html

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That's the relevant docs

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Pretty bare

exotic venture Dec 5, 2017, 6:58 PM

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TMPro seems to also roll alignment etc

rain cedar Dec 5, 2017, 6:58 PM

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I've already got alignment figured out

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That was pretty easy

empty stratus Dec 5, 2017, 9:14 PM

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Did you found a solution? @rain cedar

rain cedar Dec 5, 2017, 9:15 PM

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Nah I haven't been working on it for the last couple hours

empty stratus Dec 5, 2017, 9:21 PM

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Oh ok. We are still translating more stuff.

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Good luck!

rain cedar Dec 5, 2017, 9:26 PM

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Worst case scenario I can write my own class for the dialog boxes that doesn't use tmpro

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Then I could pretty easily change the font to whatever

buoyant wasp Dec 5, 2017, 9:31 PM

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hopefully it won't come to that

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if you want a 2nd set of eyes on it later this evening, let me know, maybe spot something that can help

tranquil glen Dec 5, 2017, 10:28 PM

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how do i open debugger menu?

young walrus Dec 5, 2017, 10:29 PM

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F1

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should also be open by default

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if it's not open, you didn't install the mod correctly

tranquil glen Dec 5, 2017, 10:30 PM

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yeah i have confirmed my suspicion that i messed up the install

young walrus Dec 5, 2017, 10:30 PM

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the title menu should show what mods are installed in the top left corner.

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you also have to install the modding API for it to work

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the debug mod relies on that base to work

tranquil glen Dec 5, 2017, 10:31 PM

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yeah ive got modding api, randomizer, charm notch, and player dump, debug isn't showing up though :/

rose osprey Dec 5, 2017, 10:31 PM

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Where can I install this mod? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDCwyu0b8dE

YouTube

Sean Riley

Hollow Knight boss rush mod speedrun 35:46

12:08 actual boss fighting time from adding up the times in the credits. Credit to KeinZantezuken for making this awesome mod. No public download link for it...

▶ Play video

young walrus Dec 5, 2017, 10:31 PM

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pinned messages

rose osprey Dec 5, 2017, 10:31 PM

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the other boss rush doesn't work for me

young walrus Dec 5, 2017, 10:31 PM

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there's also an install video

leaden hedge Dec 5, 2017, 10:31 PM

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it works fine

hazy sentinel Dec 5, 2017, 10:31 PM

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what other boss rush intenseface

rose osprey Dec 5, 2017, 10:32 PM

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I cant pick up items/upgrade after a fight since it forces me into the selection menu

full fern Dec 5, 2017, 10:54 PM

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etto...

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hi

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i have a question

hazy sentinel Dec 5, 2017, 10:55 PM

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is etto the new hip vernacular these days

full fern Dec 5, 2017, 10:55 PM

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when you are installing the bonfire

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where is

hazy sentinel Dec 5, 2017, 10:55 PM

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what

full fern Dec 5, 2017, 10:55 PM

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Assembly-CSharp(steam).dll

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tha thing

hazy sentinel Dec 5, 2017, 10:56 PM

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Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\hollow_knight_Data\Managed\

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it replaces Assembly-CSharp.dll

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so you'll have to rename the modded file

full fern Dec 5, 2017, 10:57 PM

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but

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right now

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it says

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Assembly-CSharp.dll

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this

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so

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i don't know what i have to change ;_;

young walrus Dec 5, 2017, 10:59 PM

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you exchange one csharp dll for the other

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the one you download is modded, so you put that there instead

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if you want to keep the vanilla one, you have to take the original and put it somewhere safe

full fern Dec 5, 2017, 11:00 PM

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I downloaded here https://github.com/Ayugradow/bonfire-mod and it isn't the file

GitHub

Ayugradow/bonfire-mod

Contribute to bonfire-mod development by creating an account on GitHub.

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:c

young walrus Dec 5, 2017, 11:01 PM

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....that is the file. lol

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did you open up the zip file?

full fern Dec 5, 2017, 11:02 PM

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can i send a screenshot?

young walrus Dec 5, 2017, 11:06 PM

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https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B_b9PFqx_PR9UzMxeHdva2hFT1U

full fern Dec 5, 2017, 11:08 PM

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thanks

buoyant wasp Dec 5, 2017, 11:34 PM

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that's the repository for the mod, like, the source code for it

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not the mod itself 😃

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the one mickely posted is the mod

buoyant wasp Dec 6, 2017, 12:25 AM

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is there really a good reason to keep the pin with the mod installer even around anymore? the installer generally causes more problems than it fixes, and the 3 mods listed are all either outdated or owned by other people

buoyant obsidian Dec 6, 2017, 12:27 AM

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Yeah that should probably be removed

buoyant wasp Dec 6, 2017, 12:28 AM

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done

slate owl Dec 6, 2017, 3:22 AM

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Will the Randomizer continue to be updated via the Google folder?

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And when will the xml 1.3.0 be released? I tried using the .dll Wyza posted some days ago without success.

buoyant wasp Dec 6, 2017, 3:38 AM

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1, yes

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2, the one i posted a couple days ago works. ran it last night

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2a, going to run again tonight with a few changes to fix the overlay hopefully

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1a, guessing sean will post it once he's happy satisfied my updates to work for the tracker didn't break his updates.

slate owl Dec 6, 2017, 3:53 AM

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Can you post it again?

buoyant wasp Dec 6, 2017, 3:54 AM

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gimme like 5 minutes just to make sure this build starts, then yeah

slate owl Dec 6, 2017, 3:54 AM

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And does it requires modifying the randomizer.xml file too?

buoyant wasp Dec 6, 2017, 3:54 AM

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the one i'll post here has the fix from the quote thing

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if that's what you're asking

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you using the overlay too ?

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@slate owl

slate owl Dec 6, 2017, 4:04 AM

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Planning to

buoyant wasp Dec 6, 2017, 4:04 AM

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k

slate owl Dec 6, 2017, 4:06 AM

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Its not in the mod folder list.

buoyant wasp Dec 6, 2017, 4:07 AM

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API: 1.2.2.1-24, Rando 1.5.0/xml 1.3.1, player data dump 2.4.0.0, overlay to match. for the overlay, use the same directions as the pin, but instead of the github.io URL use file:///c:/whereever/you/put/the/folder/called/overlay/Index.html

📎 rando.zip

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no, it's not

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the released version lives on github.io

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there is a pin with a link to a page describing the setup

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because the overlay itself isn't a mod

slate owl Dec 6, 2017, 4:19 AM

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Not quite sure I get it..

buoyant wasp Dec 6, 2017, 4:19 AM

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the overlay is for OBS, for streamers

slate owl Dec 6, 2017, 4:20 AM

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Nvm, didnt read the github instructions.

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The Index.html should refer back to the github page.

buoyant wasp Dec 6, 2017, 4:21 AM

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since Index.html is in OBS, we really don't want that

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then that'd be on the stream all the time

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the only reason you're having to reference it locally

slate owl Dec 6, 2017, 4:21 AM

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Index.html has a window with instructions

buoyant wasp Dec 6, 2017, 4:22 AM

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is because if I push this version up to github

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then everyone automatically gets it

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and since the updated randomizer and playerdatadump hasn't been put on the drive, that'd break everyone's overlay

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normally, the only way you'd get to index.html is via the github page

slate owl Dec 6, 2017, 4:23 AM

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Yes.

copper nacelle Dec 6, 2017, 4:23 AM

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push a version to github saying

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PLEASE UPDATE

buoyant wasp Dec 6, 2017, 4:23 AM

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well, yeah, when we get there, it will say as much 😃

copper nacelle Dec 6, 2017, 4:23 AM

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lol

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nice

slate owl Dec 6, 2017, 4:23 AM

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The confusion is that the instructions are split between the Index.html and github page.

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The Initial Setup.

buoyant wasp Dec 6, 2017, 4:24 AM

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hmm, i guess so, doesn't hurt to put it on there.

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just seems like a self-referencing circle, you only get the initial setup by (normally) going to the github page, but then the initial setup would have a link back to the github page. but if you think it's necessary, then, adding it will take less time than it's taken me to type out this message.

slate owl Dec 6, 2017, 4:26 AM

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https://puu.sh/yAms4.png

buoyant wasp Dec 6, 2017, 4:27 AM

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happy?

📎 unknown.png

slate owl Dec 6, 2017, 4:27 AM

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Perfect.

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Still not getting it lol..

buoyant wasp Dec 6, 2017, 4:34 AM

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does your overlay say "connected" ?

slate owl Dec 6, 2017, 4:35 AM

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No

buoyant wasp Dec 6, 2017, 4:35 AM

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guessing the game isn't running then

slate owl Dec 6, 2017, 4:35 AM

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It is

buoyant wasp Dec 6, 2017, 4:35 AM

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same PC?

slate owl Dec 6, 2017, 4:35 AM

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Yes.

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Restarting the game.

buoyant wasp Dec 6, 2017, 4:36 AM

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📎 unknown.png

slate owl Dec 6, 2017, 4:37 AM

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PlayerDataDump is not there

buoyant wasp Dec 6, 2017, 4:37 AM

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it was in the zip file i posted

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i think

slate owl Dec 6, 2017, 4:37 AM

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I do have the PlayerDataDump.dll file in Mods though.

buoyant wasp Dec 6, 2017, 4:37 AM

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api version match?

slate owl Dec 6, 2017, 4:38 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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https://puu.sh/yAmYS.png

buoyant wasp Dec 6, 2017, 4:40 AM

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hmm, can you post modlog.txt?

slate owl Dec 6, 2017, 4:41 AM

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Theres no modlog.txt

buoyant wasp Dec 6, 2017, 4:41 AM

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in your saves folder

slate owl Dec 6, 2017, 4:41 AM

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Oh lol

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📎 ModLog.txt

buoyant wasp Dec 6, 2017, 4:42 AM

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hmmm, oh

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derp

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i'm a moron

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stick this in hollow_knight_Data/Managed/ (same directory as Assembly-Csharp.dll)

📎 websocket-sharp.dll

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forgot that is normally in the zip

slate owl Dec 6, 2017, 4:45 AM

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Ok, PlayerDataDump is there now.

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And Index.html is connected.

buoyant wasp Dec 6, 2017, 4:46 AM

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cool, so, now you can layout your stuff how you like, you can copy the url in your browser, and paste it over in OBS as a browser source, just remove "editing=true" from it

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when you move stuff in the browser, it'll move it in OBS

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so you can lay it out like you want

slate owl Dec 6, 2017, 4:46 AM

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How does the profile=1 works?

buoyant wasp Dec 6, 2017, 4:46 AM

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basically if you wanted, you can have different layouts

slate owl Dec 6, 2017, 4:47 AM

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Btw, changing to a smaller page size should move the icons within the new frame size.

buoyant wasp Dec 6, 2017, 4:47 AM

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it just stores them in your save folder

slate owl Dec 6, 2017, 4:47 AM

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Youre able to alter a file from the Index.html?

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Or Index.html tells C# to modifiy it?

buoyant wasp Dec 6, 2017, 4:47 AM

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playerdatadump handles it

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so index.html opens up a websocket to the game

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that's how all the communication works

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and then the game sends data back to index.html when you pick stuff up, save the game, load the game, or start a new game. and it handles storing your configuration and loading it

slate owl Dec 6, 2017, 4:49 AM

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Ah

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Also realized that I needed to unchecked "local file" in OBS.

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Because I guess "local file" for OBS is static local file.

buoyant wasp Dec 6, 2017, 4:50 AM

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local file expects a windows path rather than file://

slate owl Dec 6, 2017, 4:50 AM

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All working now https://puu.sh/yAnt2.png

buoyant wasp Dec 6, 2017, 4:50 AM

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nice!

slate owl Dec 6, 2017, 4:51 AM

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Id flip the instructions flow on github.

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The first instructions should be about setting up OBS and get things to work.

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Then talk about how to make it look nice.

buoyant wasp Dec 6, 2017, 4:52 AM

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makes sense

slate owl Dec 6, 2017, 4:52 AM

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Well, I g2g now. Cya

buoyant wasp Dec 6, 2017, 4:53 AM

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later

swift python Dec 6, 2017, 5:44 AM

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What's the difference between easy and hard modes on the randomizer mod?

buoyant obsidian Dec 6, 2017, 5:50 AM

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Hard mode is designed for people who know a lot of the speedrunning skips, meaning there's a chance that you might be forced to use them to continue

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Easy makes it so you never need to use super complicated skips

swift python Dec 6, 2017, 6:06 AM

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Skips meaning the glitches, or just the more difficult strats?

royal ridge Dec 6, 2017, 6:07 AM

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More difficult strats; Most people run randomiser with NMG rules

buoyant obsidian Dec 6, 2017, 6:09 AM

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Stuff like killing Elder Baldur with mark of pride

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I think at least

buoyant wasp Dec 6, 2017, 6:09 AM

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shade skipps

swift python Dec 6, 2017, 6:09 AM

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Gotcha. Loving the randomizer mod, btw. Got a run where I got Mothwing Cloak, Mantis Claw, and Monarch Wings in Forgotten Crossroads. So much fun!

buoyant wasp Dec 6, 2017, 6:09 AM

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fireball/wraith skips

swift python Dec 6, 2017, 12:58 PM

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My game took away the randomization from the mod after I quit and went back into the game. Is that normal?

knotty grove Dec 6, 2017, 1:30 PM

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Probably got updated on steam in the meantime due to version mismatch

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Normally it doesn't happen

empty stratus Dec 6, 2017, 3:17 PM

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<entry sheet="Minor NPC" key="MINER_DREAM_2">... how much longer... KILL IT... how much longer... DANGEROUS... how much longer... KILL IT... how much longer... KILL THE EMPTY ONE...<page>...how much longer... must I dig...?</entry>

rain cedar Dec 6, 2017, 3:18 PM

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What about it?

empty stratus Dec 6, 2017, 3:18 PM

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myla = minor NPC

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lol

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it broke my heart to kill her and they call her minor

buoyant wasp Dec 6, 2017, 3:19 PM

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or steam overwrote your saves

rain cedar Dec 6, 2017, 3:20 PM

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I mean she definitely is minor

empty stratus Dec 6, 2017, 3:20 PM

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yeah sure but i think she is underated

noble trout Dec 6, 2017, 3:36 PM

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Myla deserved the good ol' slice and dice falseknice

buoyant wasp Dec 6, 2017, 3:36 PM

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so the overlay/rando updates are almost good to go. Only thing that doesn't work now is that picking up what should be a spell but that gives you a boolean doesn't work. Know what needs to be fixed just need to go do so after work, but spells on the overlay are working again, i think.

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i ignored myla

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also found more code i didn't need anymore pertaining to relics

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so that was nice to remove

ruby hawk Dec 6, 2017, 3:52 PM

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i can't find any mod that show enemy's hp?

buoyant wasp Dec 6, 2017, 4:02 PM

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debug mod does that

rain cedar Dec 6, 2017, 4:22 PM

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@leaden hedge You know things about Unity, right? Any idea why I'm only able to load the sub assets (Material/Texture2D) of a TMP Font Asset after putting it in an asset bundle?

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if (bundle == null)
{
    LogError("Failed to load AssetBundle!");
    return;
}

try
{
    foreach (UnityEngine.Object obj in bundle.LoadAllAssets())
    {
        Log(obj.name + " (" + obj.GetType() + ")");
    }
}
catch (Exception e)
{
    LogError(e);
}```
Loading it that way and it only prints out the material/texture

leaden hedge Dec 6, 2017, 4:23 PM

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what other objects are in the font

rain cedar Dec 6, 2017, 4:24 PM

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📎 d0a9171f144b1d8c9a34ceab933eb1c1.png

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By that you mean the sub-assets section?

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A lot of people online have problems with the font loading but showing as pink squares

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I'm not even getting that far

leaden hedge Dec 6, 2017, 4:35 PM

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not sure, I've never messed with TMP so I don't know what other assets you're missing

rain cedar Dec 6, 2017, 4:35 PM

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I shouldn't be missing anything

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It makes the thing for you from a ttf file

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Even if I'm missing some piece I would expect the asset bundle to still contain the font and not just its pieces

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Given that that's what I'm putting in the bundle

leaden hedge Dec 6, 2017, 4:41 PM

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unity probably can't even make complicated bundles

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just what it understands

rain cedar Dec 6, 2017, 4:42 PM

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I didn't want to do this but maybe I'll have to edit the resources for this

buoyant wasp Dec 6, 2017, 5:41 PM

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eww

rain cedar Dec 6, 2017, 5:42 PM

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Nah I think I can get around that actually

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The texture and material are the only things I can't really generate programatically anyway

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I'll just have to do a bunch of gross reflection to change all the private fields to be proper

buoyant wasp Dec 6, 2017, 5:55 PM

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is the class you're reflecting/needing to change in Assembly-Csharp or in another assembly?

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cause we could get around the need to reflect all the private fields if it's in assembly-csharp

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adding methods to classes in assembly-csharp is trivial. so we could add a method that lets you pass in all the values to change and do the changing as if it were inside the class (meaning it could access private fields without reflection)

rain cedar Dec 6, 2017, 5:58 PM

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TMP_FontAsset is in assembly-csharp but it actually looks like all the private variables have functions to set them already

buoyant wasp Dec 6, 2017, 5:58 PM

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oh, nice

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well, if you run into one that doesn't, let me know, i can show you how to do it. I think all the examples in the current api are replacing/prefixing/appending methods, but adding them is very similar. no sense in doing yucky reflection if we can avoid it easily

rain cedar Dec 6, 2017, 6:01 PM

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That's like all blackmoth does

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Shitty reflection

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Maybe we should fix that at some point

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Probably as simple as just putting something like this in one of the patch files, right?

public bool thing
{
    get => privateThing;
    set => privateThing = value;
}

buoyant wasp Dec 6, 2017, 6:05 PM

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pretty much

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you'd need to do something like this too in it

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[MonoModIgnore] private int privateThing;

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basically that makes it compile-time valid

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then when it goes to merge the patched classes, it will simply ignore that private field and use the real private field

rain cedar Dec 6, 2017, 6:06 PM

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Yeah I'd already figured that part out https://github.com/seanpr96/HollowKnight.Modding/blob/master/Assembly-CSharp/Patches/DialogueBox.cs

buoyant wasp Dec 6, 2017, 6:07 PM

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yup, you got it

rain cedar Dec 6, 2017, 6:07 PM

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This MonoMod thing works pretty intuitively from looking at what you'd already done

buoyant wasp Dec 6, 2017, 6:07 PM

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yeah, the author of it really made it pretty easy to do most everything we need

rain cedar Dec 6, 2017, 6:08 PM

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Everything except changing the middle of stuff

buoyant wasp Dec 6, 2017, 6:09 PM

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yeah, if you look at https://github.com/seanpr96/HollowKnight.Modding/blob/master/Assembly-CSharp/Patches/HeroController.cs#L164 you can see where i was doing it with IL modification instead of the Patches.DRM.HeroController approach. that was a mess

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i mean, it was feasible, but so complicated as to make it unmaintainable by pretty much anyone else

rain cedar Dec 6, 2017, 6:10 PM

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That's pretty gross

buoyant wasp Dec 6, 2017, 6:11 PM

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hopefully the author can someday sort out the ability to do something where you can tell it to decompile the method, then manipulate it as a string and recompile (basically what dnspy does, but programatically)

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but for now, replacing the few methods where we have to is good enough

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those few methods aren't enough to do anything with the game anyway (IE someone couldn't use them to play hollow knight in a vacuum)

rain cedar Dec 6, 2017, 6:12 PM

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The entire game code isn't enough to play it

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So much of it is data driven

buoyant wasp Dec 6, 2017, 6:12 PM

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true, you'd need all the assets

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and resources

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so, were you able to then build the api locally with the current approach ? (having been the only one doing it, wasn't sure if anyone else had tried yet)

rain cedar Dec 6, 2017, 6:13 PM

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Yeah

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Super easy

buoyant wasp Dec 6, 2017, 6:13 PM

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sweet

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sometimes it's easy to miss some environmental thing where you're like...oh yeah, you have to have XYZ set for the whole thing to work, but you set it like once 2 months ago

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and forgot

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i need to write the directions for building the documentation, it's fairly trivial, but it should still be added

rain cedar Dec 6, 2017, 6:16 PM

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Probably a good idea, yeah

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Oh yeah I also changed this here https://github.com/seanpr96/HollowKnight.Modding/blob/master/Assembly-CSharp/ModHooks.cs#L75

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So you don't have to do that manually

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Should always work assuming TC keeps the same version string format

buoyant wasp Dec 6, 2017, 6:18 PM

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"Should always work assuming TC keeps the same <insertanything>" - No One, Ever.

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but cool 😃

daring snow Dec 6, 2017, 6:39 PM

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Just tried messing with randomizer mod - When I quit out and try to load my save it doesn't do anything (it acknowledges the click onto the save with the audio but it doesn't let me load the save)

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1.1.1.8 latest randomizer mod from mod folder

buoyant wasp Dec 6, 2017, 6:40 PM

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1.1.1.8 probably won't work with the latest randomizer because it probably depends on the most recent version of the API which is 1.2.2.1

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you can look in ModLog.txt in your saves folder

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to see if there is an error there

daring snow Dec 6, 2017, 6:41 PM

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in the randomizer readme it says 1.1.1.8

buoyant wasp Dec 6, 2017, 6:41 PM

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the readme is probably wrong

daring snow Dec 6, 2017, 6:41 PM

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I guess that's not up to date

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fair enough

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thanks

rain cedar Dec 6, 2017, 6:41 PM

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Oh, yeah the randomizer assumes the Grimm Troupe charms exist

daring snow Dec 6, 2017, 6:41 PM

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gotcha

rain cedar Dec 6, 2017, 6:41 PM

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I didn't think anyone would actually try playing on 1.1.1.8

daring snow Dec 6, 2017, 6:42 PM

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i've been pretty hesitant to run on 1.2.2.1 for the most part - not a huge fan of the new watchers

rain cedar Dec 6, 2017, 6:42 PM

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You read the readme too

buoyant wasp Dec 6, 2017, 6:42 PM

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that's novel

rain cedar Dec 6, 2017, 6:42 PM

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Another thing I don't expect from people

daring snow Dec 6, 2017, 6:42 PM

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kdubShrug

buoyant wasp Dec 6, 2017, 6:42 PM

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no one reads the readme

daring snow Dec 6, 2017, 6:42 PM

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lmao

buoyant wasp Dec 6, 2017, 6:42 PM

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we're sadly not joking

daring snow Dec 6, 2017, 6:42 PM

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oh no I can totally understand that

rain cedar Dec 6, 2017, 6:43 PM

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Randomizer readme is kinda garbage, right?

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Don't remember if I ever made a good one

daring snow Dec 6, 2017, 6:43 PM

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I mean other than the 1.1.1.8 it does the job

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but it's pretty self explanatory

buoyant wasp Dec 6, 2017, 6:45 PM

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I think I'm going to add a method to the mod class that lets you indicate the minimum level of the game+API required for it so that it shows up in the upper left hand corner.

buoyant obsidian Dec 6, 2017, 6:45 PM

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I get Discord messages about people who didn't read the installation instructions in the readme.txt

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despite the fact that the only way they got my Discord tag was through the readme.txt

buoyant wasp Dec 6, 2017, 6:45 PM

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so you can do something like

public override RequiresApiAtLeast() => "1.2.2.1-20";

rain cedar Dec 6, 2017, 6:45 PM

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That's advanced stupid

buoyant obsidian Dec 6, 2017, 6:46 PM

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It's mostly little kids for the other game I mod but still

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reading comprehension pls

rain cedar Dec 6, 2017, 6:46 PM

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What other game do you mod?

buoyant obsidian Dec 6, 2017, 6:46 PM

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Stick Fight: The Game

rain cedar Dec 6, 2017, 6:46 PM

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Little kids makes me think minecraft

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Oh ok whatever that is

buoyant obsidian Dec 6, 2017, 6:47 PM

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kinda like a Super Smash Bros style game

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with stick figures

buoyant wasp Dec 7, 2017, 1:09 AM

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@rain cedar - So I'm having trouble with getting the randomizer to tell me when i get charms from the spell locations. For some reason picking up a spell doesn't seem to call Randomizer.SetPlayerDataBool for gotCharm_#. Am I missing something special about how you're handling spells?

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or at least, I would assume it would call SetPlayerDataInt, but neither seem to happen the way I'm expecting

rain cedar Dec 7, 2017, 1:12 AM

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This is where it would be getting set https://github.com/MyEyes/RandomizerMod/blob/master/RandomizerMod/Randomizer.cs#L208

buoyant wasp Dec 7, 2017, 1:13 AM

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that's what i thought, k

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oh, derp, apparently, copying the dll from the wrong build folder makes your changes not show up....

rain cedar Dec 7, 2017, 1:13 AM

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Oops

buoyant wasp Dec 7, 2017, 1:19 AM

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gee, when you copy the right dll, things magically work

surreal helm Dec 7, 2017, 1:28 AM

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what's the current record on the boss rush?

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because i just completed it in 29:56

buoyant wasp Dec 7, 2017, 1:29 AM

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since it's random

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no one is tracking it that i know of

surreal helm Dec 7, 2017, 1:29 AM

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oh

buoyant wasp Dec 7, 2017, 1:29 AM

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my best is like 22

surreal helm Dec 7, 2017, 1:29 AM

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will have to rush more then

buoyant wasp Dec 7, 2017, 1:33 AM

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eh, it's all based on how early you get high damage stuff

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if you get early nail or early spells it's fast

slate owl Dec 7, 2017, 1:34 AM

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How to enter City of Tears with only double jump?

rain cedar Dec 7, 2017, 1:35 AM

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Shade skip or tram pass

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Although tram pass would also need a shade skip

slate owl Dec 7, 2017, 1:35 AM

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Shade skip where?

rain cedar Dec 7, 2017, 1:35 AM

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Wait no you can go into deepnest from mantis lords

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Shade skip at salubra

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The most useful shade skip in the game

slate owl Dec 7, 2017, 1:36 AM

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You can shade skip with only double jump?

buoyant wasp Dec 7, 2017, 1:36 AM

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or just do dark room CP

rain cedar Dec 7, 2017, 1:36 AM

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You can do it with only fireball

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No Wyza that doesn't work

slate owl Dec 7, 2017, 1:36 AM

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CP doesnt give you access to City

buoyant wasp Dec 7, 2017, 1:36 AM

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oh, right, no dive

rain cedar Dec 7, 2017, 1:37 AM

#

But yeah shade skip with double jump is free

buoyant wasp Dec 7, 2017, 1:37 AM

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super free

young walrus Dec 7, 2017, 1:37 AM

#

Shade skip at slubra is SO easy with wings

slate owl Dec 7, 2017, 1:38 AM

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Oh, and its super fast too

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Because I can use bench there.

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Ok its really easy with double jump..

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I think Ill always go there once getting dboule jump.

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Gets dream nail + dreamshield + city (aka geo trader)

buoyant wasp Dec 7, 2017, 2:00 AM

#

it's a good route to go, but i wouldn't always say it's a slam dunk

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if i have dash too, then i still feel CP is a better choice because you still end up with nail/shield, but also get key which opens 3 more items

slate owl Dec 7, 2017, 2:26 AM

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How do you get to the key with only dash?

#

https://puu.sh/yAYK6.png

hazy sentinel Dec 7, 2017, 2:26 AM

#

key?

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you mean the lever or what

slate owl Dec 7, 2017, 2:27 AM

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Shopkeeper key

hazy sentinel Dec 7, 2017, 2:27 AM

#

you can do that spike parkour room w/ wings and dash

slate owl Dec 7, 2017, 2:27 AM

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lol

#

Do that with only wings?

📎 unknown.png

hazy sentinel Dec 7, 2017, 2:28 AM

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yes

#

pogo is god

slate owl Dec 7, 2017, 2:31 AM

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Theres no way im doing that in a race.

hazy sentinel Dec 7, 2017, 2:31 AM

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at least it's not the skip to isma's tear

slate owl Dec 7, 2017, 2:31 AM

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Ok, actually easier than I thought.

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I just need to not use wings.

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You got a clip of that?

hazy sentinel Dec 7, 2017, 2:33 AM

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isma's?

slate owl Dec 7, 2017, 2:33 AM

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CP pogo

hazy sentinel Dec 7, 2017, 2:33 AM

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i can record one i guess

slate owl Dec 7, 2017, 2:35 AM

#

The part to the right seems impossible without dash.

📎 unknown.png

hazy sentinel Dec 7, 2017, 2:35 AM

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oh you don't have dash?

slate owl Dec 7, 2017, 2:35 AM

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Oh wait, it is impossible.

#

Monarch Wings + (Vengeful Spirit | Mothwing Cloak )

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Im supposed to do it with VS...

hazy sentinel Dec 7, 2017, 2:36 AM

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why are you doing it without dash though

slate owl Dec 7, 2017, 2:36 AM

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I dont have dash yet.

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In Randomizer.

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Ok got it.

#

with cheats...

hazy sentinel Dec 7, 2017, 2:39 AM

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rip

slate owl Dec 7, 2017, 2:39 AM

#

and then instant rip

#

https://puu.sh/yAZ8Z.png

#

If you kill the dude there, youre stuck.

hazy sentinel Dec 7, 2017, 2:40 AM

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wow this pogo is actually pretty bad

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i made it to the third spike column thing once

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mmk so the middle part of that is the hardest

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can do it with 2 fireball casts

young walrus Dec 7, 2017, 2:44 AM

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That Pogo is possible here. ^

slate owl Dec 7, 2017, 2:44 AM

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You can with only 1.

young walrus Dec 7, 2017, 2:44 AM

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It's just very hard

slate owl Dec 7, 2017, 2:44 AM

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In xml file, Flukenest only requires Desolated Dive.

hazy sentinel Dec 7, 2017, 2:45 AM

#

ok how do you propose doing this with one fireball

📎 ok.png

young walrus Dec 7, 2017, 2:45 AM

#

That's correct

slate owl Dec 7, 2017, 2:45 AM

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Oh, I mean 1 fireball for each, so 2 in total.

hazy sentinel Dec 7, 2017, 2:45 AM

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yeah

slate owl Dec 7, 2017, 2:45 AM

#

Do you reach city of tears with only dive?

young walrus Dec 7, 2017, 2:45 AM

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Yes

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CP dark room, resting grounds, grave

slate owl Dec 7, 2017, 2:46 AM

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Oh ya.

young walrus Dec 7, 2017, 2:46 AM

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Then the elevator. And buy the key from sly

slate owl Dec 7, 2017, 2:47 AM

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Kinda crazy lol

#

Ive been working on a randomizer tool: https://rainingchain.com/hollowknight/randomizer

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Would probably need to add video about the unknown skips.

hazy sentinel Dec 7, 2017, 2:53 AM

#

holy fuck I actually did the spike room

#

https://youtu.be/yWYCmv8etuQ

YouTube

Verulean Mod

actual hell

crystal peak more like path of pain

▶ Play video

buoyant wasp Dec 7, 2017, 3:18 AM

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that's why i said dash+wings

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cause dashless is ew

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but dash+wings makes it easy

hazy sentinel Dec 7, 2017, 3:18 AM

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what are you talking about i totally did that first try and did not spend 10 minutes losing my will to live

buoyant wasp Dec 7, 2017, 3:18 AM

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LOL

rain cedar Dec 7, 2017, 3:27 AM

#

So I've given up on trying to use anything to do with Unity or TMP to load the font and I'm trying to write my own parser for it

#

But I'm having problems because it's the absolute worst file format I've ever seen

#

It's plain text with a single line about 8 million characters long for texture data

#

And no matter what I do StreamReader dies at that

buoyant wasp Dec 7, 2017, 3:43 AM

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tried buffering it?

#

or something like File.ReadAllText or something

rain cedar Dec 7, 2017, 3:46 AM

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Yeah, turns out the problem was somehow that I was trying to read it one character at a time for memory efficiency

buoyant wasp Dec 7, 2017, 3:46 AM

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lol

rain cedar Dec 7, 2017, 3:46 AM

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Works up to that line then dies

#

StreamReader.ReadLine works fine

buoyant wasp Dec 7, 2017, 3:47 AM

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just not 1 char at a time 😉

rain cedar Dec 7, 2017, 3:48 AM

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I'm gonna log GC.GetTotalMemory before and after reading this line and see the difference

#

It's a 25 MB string

#

Sick

buoyant wasp Dec 7, 2017, 3:50 AM

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the font is a 25MB string? wth.

rain cedar Dec 7, 2017, 3:51 AM

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Well it's not really a string I just have to read it that way because either TMP or Unity is dumb

#

The font is a texture

buoyant wasp Dec 7, 2017, 3:51 AM

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yeesh

rain cedar Dec 7, 2017, 3:51 AM

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But instead of storing the byte array as, you know, bytes

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It's a plain text file

buoyant wasp Dec 7, 2017, 3:52 AM

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still, huge for a font, someone missed the efficiency train

rain cedar Dec 7, 2017, 3:52 AM

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Yeah for sure it's 4194304 bytes

leaden hedge Dec 7, 2017, 3:52 AM

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ye but it does cool stuff like have outlines

buoyant wasp Dec 7, 2017, 4:01 AM

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you going to have to write the dialog class from scratch?

rain cedar Dec 7, 2017, 4:02 AM

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Hopefully not

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That's only if I can't ever get this font to load

#

Literally the only problem

noble trout Dec 7, 2017, 7:35 AM

#

just finished main menu

#

now doing prompts

manic wing Dec 7, 2017, 8:37 AM

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verulean you mad man

#

that popped up in my inbox

empty stratus Dec 7, 2017, 11:42 AM

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@noble trout so prompts now?

noble trout Dec 7, 2017, 12:01 PM

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Yeah

#

Then elderbug

#

Then cornifer

#

Then sly

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Then snail shaman

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Then quirrel

#

;-;

ruby hawk Dec 7, 2017, 12:41 PM

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@buoyant wasp thanks for pointing out the Debug mod for enemy's hp. But as I remember, these is some images that the game only shows the hp bar on the enemy only

surreal helm Dec 7, 2017, 3:31 PM

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what happened, why did it freeze

📎 367520_20171207163023_1.png

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now i can't do anything this is the first time having this issue

fair rampart Dec 7, 2017, 3:32 PM

#

speedrun?

surreal helm Dec 7, 2017, 3:32 PM

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Boss rush

fair rampart Dec 7, 2017, 3:32 PM

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ah ok

surreal helm Dec 7, 2017, 3:33 PM

#

23 min to get to the hollow knight in a regular run

#

now that would be a nice speedrun

fair rampart Dec 7, 2017, 3:34 PM

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lol

#

ye

rain cedar Dec 7, 2017, 3:38 PM

#

📎 unknown.png

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23 minutes at hollow knight

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Just saying

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Wow I chose a bad frame to screenshot that

buoyant wasp Dec 7, 2017, 3:55 PM

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@surreal helm - that happens sometimes, don't know why. but you can hit tab/left trigger to just skip pickups and move on usually.

buoyant wasp Dec 7, 2017, 11:59 PM

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i swear, the current rando logic means that flukemarm is probably the best thing to do the majority of the time

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no specific evidence other than it feels that way anecdotally

slate owl Dec 8, 2017, 2:07 AM

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How do you get Shade Cloak with only Mothwing Cloak + Monarch Wings?

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https://puu.sh/yBHor.png

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@rain cedar

buoyant wasp Dec 8, 2017, 2:17 AM

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if you hate yourself

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it's a shade skip

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but it's not in the logic

slate owl Dec 8, 2017, 2:17 AM

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-.-

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Shade Cloak : (Mantis Claw + (Monarch Wings | ((Mothwing Cloak | Crystal Heart) + HARD))) | (Mothwing Cloak + Monarch Wings + HARD)

buoyant wasp Dec 8, 2017, 2:18 AM

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mantis claw

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hmm

slate owl Dec 8, 2017, 2:18 AM

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| (Mothwing Cloak + Monarch Wings + HARD)

buoyant wasp Dec 8, 2017, 2:18 AM

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yeah, i don't know that was intentional

slate owl Dec 8, 2017, 2:18 AM

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And it doesnt have CLASSIC so it can't be a shade skip.

buoyant wasp Dec 8, 2017, 2:18 AM

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cause i was thinking he said he didn't put that in

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as far as i know, it is only possible with those 2 as a shade skip

slate owl Dec 8, 2017, 2:19 AM

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But please dont put shade skip there...

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So basically, put it to Mantis Claw + (Monarch Wings | ((Mothwing Cloak | Crystal Heart) + HARD))

hazy sentinel Dec 8, 2017, 2:21 AM

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wait how does crystal heart help

buoyant wasp Dec 8, 2017, 2:21 AM

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no idea

hazy sentinel Dec 8, 2017, 2:21 AM

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i guess the abyss lake?

buoyant wasp Dec 8, 2017, 2:22 AM

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you don't need it for the lake

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once the lamp is turned on

hazy sentinel Dec 8, 2017, 2:22 AM

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yeah but it's boring hollowface

buoyant wasp Dec 8, 2017, 2:22 AM

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the lake is just water

slate owl Dec 8, 2017, 2:22 AM

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Crystal is to reach city of tears.

buoyant wasp Dec 8, 2017, 2:23 AM

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Shade Cloak : ((Mantis Claw | Shade Cloak) + (Monarch Wings | ((Mothwing Cloak | Crystal Heart) + HARD))) | (Mothwing Cloak + Monarch Wings + HARD)

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is probably what it should be

slate owl Dec 8, 2017, 2:25 AM

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No.

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Mantis Claw should be mandatory if EASY.

buoyant wasp Dec 8, 2017, 2:26 AM

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why?

slate owl Dec 8, 2017, 2:26 AM

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To get kings brand.

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Or have isma tears.

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You gotta pogo there https://puu.sh/yBI2P.png

buoyant wasp Dec 8, 2017, 2:27 AM

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hmm, i know

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i'll submit that probably should be hard only

slate owl Dec 8, 2017, 2:30 AM

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That feeling when https://puu.sh/yBIah.png

buoyant wasp Dec 8, 2017, 2:30 AM

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lul

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claw is actually a pretty terrible early item

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at least in a race

slate owl Dec 8, 2017, 2:30 AM

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Im late game now.

buoyant wasp Dec 8, 2017, 2:30 AM

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ah

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Shade Cloak : ((Mantis Claw | (Shade Cloak + HARD)) + (Monarch Wings | ((Mothwing Cloak | Crystal Heart) + HARD))) | (Mothwing Cloak + Monarch Wings + HARD) ?

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i think that fixes the difficulty problem

slate owl Dec 8, 2017, 2:35 AM

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If you have Shade Cloak + Crystal + HARD

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It returns true but it shouldnt.

buoyant wasp Dec 8, 2017, 2:38 AM

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sorry, split attention is bad for logic 😉

slate owl Dec 8, 2017, 2:42 AM

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To go to Joni Blessing, its faster from Dirtmoth or Green Paths?

buoyant wasp Dec 8, 2017, 2:53 AM

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hmm

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that's tough

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i have no idea

buoyant wasp Dec 8, 2017, 6:25 AM

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@rain cedar - done a couple runs with the pull request version of rando, seems to work, so I think you can merge at your leasure. The only thing to note is that this version of the randomizer needs the updated overlay/playerdatatracker, which I don't think we should push tomorrow right before this saturday's race, probably could release it after though, give folks a week to run on it.

rain cedar Dec 8, 2017, 2:36 PM

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@slate owl For shade cloak it's mothwing AND shade cloak, not or

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As in you need shade cloak, not mothwing cloak

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Just go under the thing past the arcane egg the way you're meant to leave after getting it

buoyant wasp Dec 8, 2017, 3:31 PM

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But shouldn't it say shade cloak then?

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cause if I understand it right, the original logic says mothwing cloak, not shade cloak

rain cedar Dec 8, 2017, 3:32 PM

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No, RainingChain has been modifying the logic strings to make them more readable

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("Mantis Claw" + ("Monarch Wings" | (("Mothwing Cloak" | "Shade Cloak" | "Crystal Heart") + HARD))) | ("Mothwing Cloak" + "Shade Cloak" + "Monarch Wings" + HARD)

buoyant wasp Dec 8, 2017, 3:34 PM

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oooh

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well if i had known that, i wouldn't have even bothered trying to "fix" it

slate owl Dec 8, 2017, 11:34 PM

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Ah my bad XD

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That explains a few things lol

hollow pier Dec 8, 2017, 11:34 PM

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i thought this message was from ahmy because there was an ah and a my and an xd

buoyant wasp Dec 9, 2017, 1:11 AM

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Slightly less early prototype of the FSM viewer based on the original from @leaden hedge that allows for you to simply point it at a folder instead of having to manually edit each FSM's json file and load it manually. If you use the FSM viewer alot for lots of different files, this probably will be worth your time. If you rarely use it for a single FSM, KDT's original is faster probably.

Note that this is a UWP app which means the following:

Windows 10 only. With At least the spring 2017 creators update.
It's signed with a self-signed certificate. Trust it, or don't. (if not, can't use it, sorry)
You have to turn on sideloading of apps. https://www.windowscentral.com/how-enable-windows-10-sideload-apps-outside-store

to use, unzip and run Add-AppDevPackage.ps1. That will prompt you to trust the cert, and then install the app. Should then show up in your start menu as Hollow Knight FSM Viewer.

Version .0.2.1 - the diagram can now be dragged around for when the size of the FSM exceeds the visible window. cleaned up several UI oddities.

📎 Hollow_Knight_FSM_Viewer_2_0.2.1.0_Test.zip

daring snow Dec 9, 2017, 1:38 AM

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my last randomizer seed ended at 49% game completion and took 7hrs squilLUL

Mantis Claw was in the location of Hiveblood. Crazy fun / challenging seed.

turbid stirrup Dec 9, 2017, 1:39 AM

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WAIT. There's a randomizer mod?

copper nacelle Dec 9, 2017, 1:39 AM

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yes

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it's really great

turbid stirrup Dec 9, 2017, 1:39 AM

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hollowknice

buoyant wasp Dec 9, 2017, 1:58 AM

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mantis in hive is so trolly

daring snow Dec 9, 2017, 1:58 AM

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yeah it was the last possible thing I could have gotten if i'm not mistaken

buoyant wasp Dec 9, 2017, 1:59 AM

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i had mantis in shriek last night

daring snow Dec 9, 2017, 1:59 AM

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I was hoping it was in shriek squilLUL

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but itwasn't farCry

young walrus Dec 9, 2017, 2:02 AM

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You could have gotten shade cloak there

daring snow Dec 9, 2017, 2:02 AM

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that's true

young walrus Dec 9, 2017, 2:02 AM

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But it was either cloak or claw

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And that's it

daring snow Dec 9, 2017, 2:02 AM

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what a crazy seed squilLUL

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it was fun though - I learned a hell of a lot

buoyant obsidian Dec 9, 2017, 2:12 AM

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Did we ever figure out an easy way to load enemies in scenes that don't normally contain that enemy?

buoyant wasp Dec 9, 2017, 2:16 AM

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i don't think it's difficult, just costly in terms of performance

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i think sean said that you have to load the scene, get it, and then unload it

buoyant obsidian Dec 9, 2017, 2:30 AM

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I wanna create Gruz Mothers but I can't find any way to keep her outside of her scene

hollow pier Dec 9, 2017, 2:31 AM

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http://prntscr.com/hl24kh thinkgrub

Lightshot

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daring snow Dec 9, 2017, 2:31 AM

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Gruz parents farW

buoyant wasp Dec 9, 2017, 2:31 AM

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@rain cedar

young walrus Dec 9, 2017, 2:38 AM

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gruz dads

buoyant obsidian Dec 9, 2017, 2:39 AM

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Also where can I save a variable permanently

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after assigning it once

hollow pier Dec 9, 2017, 2:39 AM

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in the code

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in a google doc

buoyant wasp Dec 9, 2017, 2:40 AM

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how permanant?

buoyant obsidian Dec 9, 2017, 2:41 AM

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Like I meet the very first tiktik and I want to spawn it in the Radiance fight several weeks later

hazy sentinel Dec 9, 2017, 2:41 AM

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as permanent as the second e in 'permanent'

buoyant wasp Dec 9, 2017, 2:43 AM

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you'll have to save it to disk

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and load it on game load

buoyant obsidian Dec 9, 2017, 2:44 AM

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How would I go about doing that?

buoyant wasp Dec 9, 2017, 2:46 AM

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easy way? use the modding api which handles it all 😛

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but

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if you need something exceptionally simple

buoyant obsidian Dec 9, 2017, 2:49 AM

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Here's what I'm working with btw

📎 unknown.png

buoyant wasp Dec 9, 2017, 2:53 AM

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so, are you trying to store the pet

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or just that you did the fly

buoyant obsidian Dec 9, 2017, 2:53 AM

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Yep

buoyant wasp Dec 9, 2017, 2:53 AM

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storing the entire pet, is going to be really hard

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because the pet is not serializable

buoyant obsidian Dec 9, 2017, 2:53 AM

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Yeah I thought so

buoyant wasp Dec 9, 2017, 2:53 AM

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storing information about the pet and reconstructing it when the save file loads, might be easier

buoyant obsidian Dec 9, 2017, 2:54 AM

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Whatever I can just paste in as a block of code :P

slate owl Dec 9, 2017, 3:23 AM

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Ive been thinking about how mods are managed right now.

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Wouldn't be better if the version of the mod be included in the dll file name?

buoyant wasp Dec 9, 2017, 3:24 AM

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no

slate owl Dec 9, 2017, 3:24 AM

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How so?

buoyant wasp Dec 9, 2017, 3:24 AM

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it should be in the details

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because if you did it as part of the name

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then upgrades mean you have to dig down, delete the old, bring in the new

slate owl Dec 9, 2017, 3:25 AM

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Right now, upgrades are messy.

buoyant wasp Dec 9, 2017, 3:25 AM

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right now they are drop dead easy

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drag drop done

slate owl Dec 9, 2017, 3:25 AM

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Ya, but you can keep old stuff around.

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Those that are in folders.

buoyant wasp Dec 9, 2017, 3:25 AM

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except, randomizer is the only mod that has that

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and that's going away

slate owl Dec 9, 2017, 3:25 AM

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If you remove a file from Randomizer, old files will stay there.

buoyant wasp Dec 9, 2017, 3:26 AM

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debug mod already is going to DLL only setup

slate owl Dec 9, 2017, 3:26 AM

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And DebugMod, and overlay you sent me.

buoyant wasp Dec 9, 2017, 3:26 AM

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overlay is never used locally except in these edge beta scenarios

slate owl Dec 9, 2017, 3:26 AM

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Can you embed image files in a dll?

buoyant wasp Dec 9, 2017, 3:26 AM

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yes

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debug mod's newest version already does that

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so does boss rush

slate owl Dec 9, 2017, 3:26 AM

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Then why did it use a folder XD

buoyant wasp Dec 9, 2017, 3:27 AM

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because before boss rush we didn't know we could

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then KDT showed the light

slate owl Dec 9, 2017, 3:27 AM

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!!

buoyant wasp Dec 9, 2017, 3:29 AM

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so, yeah, basically, all of the issues you listed are basically going away 😃

slate owl Dec 9, 2017, 3:31 AM

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Well, I still need to manage two version of the randomizer

buoyant wasp Dec 9, 2017, 3:32 AM

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that's true, but it's also abnormal

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normally we'd just have released it and been done with it

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only reason haven't really is because of the race next weekend

slate owl Dec 9, 2017, 3:33 AM

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Next weekend race will still run on old version?

buoyant wasp Dec 9, 2017, 3:34 AM

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yes

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because it's time tested stable

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and it's being streamed on a relatively high profile channel

slate owl Dec 9, 2017, 3:34 AM

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Gameplay-wise, what are the changes?

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Shade cloak hard save?

buoyant wasp Dec 9, 2017, 3:35 AM

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basically

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i think he fixed a few other things maybe

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but it's a pretty big rewrite of the xml handling, save handling, performance handling, etc

slate owl Dec 9, 2017, 5:34 AM

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Hive Blood requires Tram?

deep pilot Dec 9, 2017, 5:44 AM

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I believe so, since the bottom left part of Kingdom's Edge which has the Hive is only first accessible via the Tram

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The other two entrances to that part are shored-up walls which have to be opened from inside that sub-region

buoyant wasp Dec 9, 2017, 6:03 AM

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yes

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hive blood can only be gotten to by tram

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also, screw seeds with 0 movement abilities

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literally had mantis+isma's, vengful1, nail1, and shamman. though i'm sure a better any% runner would have just done mantis+ismas

solemn rivet Dec 9, 2017, 4:45 PM

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hey guys

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long time no see

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what did I miss?

noble trout Dec 9, 2017, 5:05 PM

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trying to get a font into the game

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that is pretty much it i dont know how long you have been gone

solemn rivet Dec 9, 2017, 5:06 PM

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neither do I

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eh...

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nothing remarkable when I left

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I guess... KDT was figuring out UI stuff?

buoyant wasp Dec 9, 2017, 5:17 PM

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yeah. He's still doing that I think, though he seems to be making some good progress in different areas of that. The randomizer had a big back end overhaul. 753 is apparently trying to summon bosses out of their scenes into other scenes for reasons yet unknown to us.

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oh, the modding API now has support to do version update checking where it can go ask github what the last release was and show a "New Version Available" next to the name in the upper left hand corner

buoyant obsidian Dec 9, 2017, 6:58 PM

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Is there an FSM for enemy damage dealt on contact?

indigo vector Dec 9, 2017, 7:21 PM

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Hello there modders sincejust going to post this here since some of you might be able to help maybe

http://prntscr.com/hlaf5w

Pretty much all of my unity games are now either opening to black screens or giving me this error for no explainable reason SOS

Lightshot

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Have tried to verify and stuff btw

fair rampart Dec 9, 2017, 7:22 PM

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@rain cedar

rain cedar Dec 9, 2017, 7:22 PM

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Why me specifically?

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I don't know how to fix this

fair rampart Dec 9, 2017, 7:23 PM

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oh

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ok lol

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@buoyant obsidian

buoyant obsidian Dec 9, 2017, 7:23 PM

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No clue vOv

fair rampart Dec 9, 2017, 7:23 PM

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oke

rain cedar Dec 9, 2017, 7:23 PM

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Don't just @ random people, man

fair rampart Dec 9, 2017, 7:24 PM

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well it isnt random

buoyant obsidian Dec 9, 2017, 7:24 PM

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Update drivers and pray

vale zenith Dec 9, 2017, 7:24 PM

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is glad for once to be forgotten

fair rampart Dec 9, 2017, 7:24 PM

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xd

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@vale zenith

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there

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not forgotten anymore

vale zenith Dec 9, 2017, 7:24 PM

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I thought this was #archived-modding-development not #techsupport

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entitled shits

fair rampart Dec 9, 2017, 7:24 PM

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lol rood

indigo vector Dec 9, 2017, 7:24 PM

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Yeah well you mod a unity game

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So I thought I would atleast ask

buoyant obsidian Dec 9, 2017, 7:25 PM

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We speak computer

vale zenith Dec 9, 2017, 7:25 PM

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yeah almost as rude pinging random people and expecting them to fix someone elses problem

rain cedar Dec 9, 2017, 7:25 PM

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Well it says it's trying to switch to 0hz

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Which isn't a thing

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Make it not do that

buoyant obsidian Dec 9, 2017, 7:25 PM

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Where's KDT when you need a "Not my problem"

fair rampart Dec 9, 2017, 7:25 PM

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lol

rain cedar Dec 9, 2017, 7:25 PM

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Apparently not on the tech support list

vale zenith Dec 9, 2017, 7:26 PM

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Good for him

fair rampart Dec 9, 2017, 7:26 PM

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📎 Capture.PNG

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awww

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so he only said it on stream

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not here

vale zenith Dec 9, 2017, 7:26 PM

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The best way to say not my problem is to say nothing at all

fair rampart Dec 9, 2017, 7:27 PM

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but that way there is a possiblity u get pinged 50 times over

vale zenith Dec 9, 2017, 7:27 PM

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Only because of people like you

fair rampart Dec 9, 2017, 7:27 PM

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i dont do that lol

rain cedar Dec 9, 2017, 7:27 PM

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You literally just did

fair rampart Dec 9, 2017, 7:27 PM

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not 50 times

rain cedar Dec 9, 2017, 7:28 PM

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It takes 50 people pinging once for no reason

vale zenith Dec 9, 2017, 7:28 PM

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Oh, sorry for taking that as hyperbole rather than literally

fair rampart Dec 9, 2017, 7:28 PM

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lol

vale zenith Dec 9, 2017, 7:29 PM

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But you wanna know what gets people to stop working on projects like the mods for HK? Getting dragged into other stuff that has nothing to do with what they actually want to work on.

fair rampart Dec 9, 2017, 7:30 PM

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ya sorry

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i didnt tag wyza cuz i saw he was playing

vale zenith Dec 9, 2017, 7:35 PM

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So do I constantly have to have this running now?

fair rampart Dec 9, 2017, 7:35 PM

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which thing?

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pings u

vale zenith Dec 9, 2017, 7:37 PM

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I'll take that as a yes

fair rampart Dec 9, 2017, 7:37 PM

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lol

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nop

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u just have to set discord to "busy" or whatever it was called

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"do not disturb" works

rain cedar Dec 9, 2017, 7:38 PM

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I shouldn't have to set it to busy to avoid pointless pings

vale zenith Dec 9, 2017, 7:38 PM

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Or you could just not ping people for bad reasons, how about that?

fair rampart Dec 9, 2017, 7:38 PM

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ya i already said sorry

rain cedar Dec 9, 2017, 7:38 PM

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And I'll still want notifications for some pings

fair rampart Dec 9, 2017, 7:38 PM

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i wont do it again

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i just did 1 ping and learned my lesson ,chill

surreal helm Dec 9, 2017, 7:56 PM

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i uninstalled the boss rush to play normal hollow knight and when i tried to install it again it keeps crashing, what should i do <@&328354344313421825>

📎 Sin_titulo.png

buoyant obsidian Dec 9, 2017, 7:56 PM

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lol

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Verify your game files on Steam and reinstall it from scratch should work

surreal helm Dec 9, 2017, 7:57 PM

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i've done that three times, that's why i came here to ask for help

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maybe uninstall and install the entire game again

buoyant wasp Dec 9, 2017, 8:37 PM

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when you reinstalled bossrush, did you reinstall the API?

buoyant obsidian Dec 10, 2017, 4:49 AM

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https://youtu.be/0SktnJuocqM

YouTube

East Side Lag

[MOD] Hollow Knight - Lightbringer Trailer

My Hollow Knight mod Lightbringer is finally finished! Check it out here: http://www.moddb.com/mods/hollow-knight-lightbringer You can also check out my Glas...

▶ Play video

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There's a trailer now

rain cedar Dec 10, 2017, 5:01 AM

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So dramatic

noble trout Dec 10, 2017, 7:40 AM

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trailers are just a cheap way of say "play lightbringer"

fair rampart Dec 10, 2017, 8:00 AM

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Ifuzzy caught up to u

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Also OMG IS THAT GRUZ MOM FINAL BOSS????

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Is this version of lightbringer out yet?

trim totem Dec 10, 2017, 8:06 AM

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hol up

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wtf is that gruz mother

fair rampart Dec 10, 2017, 8:10 AM

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Lol

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It's a boss 753 made i think

late sphinx Dec 10, 2017, 8:14 AM

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who even gets up to that spike part in trial of fools with 2 hp

fair rampart Dec 10, 2017, 8:19 AM

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me

late sphinx Dec 10, 2017, 8:20 AM

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intenseface

covert shale Dec 10, 2017, 12:19 PM

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im new... there are mods to this game?!

fair rampart Dec 10, 2017, 12:20 PM

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yes

humble sinew Dec 10, 2017, 12:21 PM

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play lightbringer

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intenseface

fair rampart Dec 10, 2017, 12:21 PM

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^

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P L A Y L I G H T B R I N G E R

covert shale Dec 10, 2017, 12:21 PM

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i think its a better idea to finish the game first

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xd

fair rampart Dec 10, 2017, 12:22 PM

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tru

humble sinew Dec 10, 2017, 12:22 PM

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it really is.

fair rampart Dec 10, 2017, 12:22 PM

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~~"play lightbringer" is a meme btw~~

swift python Dec 10, 2017, 1:15 PM

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Is it actually good, or is it just a meme because internet?

exotic venture Dec 10, 2017, 1:19 PM

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it's actually dope

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changes gameplay a lot

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glass soul is relentless af

fair rampart Dec 10, 2017, 1:27 PM

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its a meme cuz 753 advertises his mod

humble sinew Dec 10, 2017, 2:03 PM

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not just because of that

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its how he did it in shitmodst

fair rampart Dec 10, 2017, 2:05 PM

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^

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i gave him that idea

mortal kelp Dec 10, 2017, 4:22 PM

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Wheres the most recent randomizer tools?

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And randomizer

rain cedar Dec 10, 2017, 4:23 PM

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The most recent isn't really anywhere

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But I guess since wyza posted a pack of the guaranteed stable stuff in #races-announcements it'll be fine to update the drive

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So hang on

mortal kelp Dec 10, 2017, 4:24 PM

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Thanks

rain cedar Dec 10, 2017, 4:26 PM

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Internet just went down so give me a bit to sort that out first

mortal kelp Dec 10, 2017, 4:26 PM

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Hey no worries Sean

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Just toss me a PM in case I'm not paying attention

rain cedar Dec 10, 2017, 4:27 PM

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I'll just ping you here

rain cedar Dec 10, 2017, 4:46 PM

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@mortal kelp It's up on google drive, let me know if it doesn't work

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Not sure what API version is up there or what API version this randomizer requires

mortal kelp Dec 10, 2017, 4:48 PM

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Not sure if I have access to it

rain cedar Dec 10, 2017, 4:48 PM

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Really? It shouldn't be private

mortal kelp Dec 10, 2017, 4:48 PM

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Well mostly idk where to access it

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Ive never went to the drive

rain cedar Dec 10, 2017, 4:49 PM

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Ah ok

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It's at the top of the pinned messages here

mortal kelp Dec 10, 2017, 4:50 PM

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I dont see anything related to rando

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Ah. nvm

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im blind

rain cedar Dec 10, 2017, 4:51 PM

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Yeah just be sure you're looking at it in list view or it's a bit hard to find things

mortal kelp Dec 10, 2017, 5:03 PM

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Ok its installed, the game is telling me there's a new version of the rando?

rain cedar Dec 10, 2017, 5:04 PM

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Guess I fucked up the version checking

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Didn't actually test it

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It's the most recent, just ignore that

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I'll fix it in a bit

fair rampart Dec 10, 2017, 5:31 PM

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@buoyant obsidian will u ever make shitmodst 2?

exotic venture Dec 10, 2017, 5:32 PM

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he's working on it

candid cloak Dec 10, 2017, 6:08 PM

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OH HAI

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i want to try lightbranger

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how do I install, and can I still use default game files after installation

buoyant wasp Dec 10, 2017, 6:09 PM

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this is a preview of next saturday isn't it

candid cloak Dec 10, 2017, 6:09 PM

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what happens then

buoyant wasp Dec 10, 2017, 6:10 PM

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we all turn into elves.

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but really, look at the pins for lightbringer

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as far as default game files, if you mean your saves, i wouldn't load a vanilla save into a modded game

candid cloak Dec 10, 2017, 6:12 PM

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so

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I would have to uninstall it to play a vanilla save or?

buoyant wasp Dec 10, 2017, 6:12 PM

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yes, though "uninstall" is fairly trivial, it's just telling steam to validate your game files

candid cloak Dec 10, 2017, 6:13 PM

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ah

ashen warren Dec 10, 2017, 9:42 PM

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Does anyone else have a problem with the Hollow Knight in the boss rush mod?

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Whenever I fight him it's either a white screen or when I kill him I can't focus to finish the fight

buoyant wasp Dec 11, 2017, 12:30 AM

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you're never supposed to focus to finish the fight, but I have had it happen on multiple occasions where the item menu doesn't come up or you got a white screen from the previous dream boss

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both are known, but I don't think @leaden hedge has fixes for either

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the item thing usually can be gotten around using the LB or Tab key to skip picking up items

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the white screen is just a softlock, and unless you can kill him and radiance with just sound, your screwed 😃

slate owl Dec 11, 2017, 1:45 AM

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In the Randomizer, having Desolative Dive allows you to get dash.

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Same problem with old version.

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@rain cedar

rain cedar Dec 11, 2017, 1:55 AM

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Yeah you're right that should be on there

buoyant wasp Dec 11, 2017, 2:30 AM

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huh, weird

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always thought it was on the list

rain cedar Dec 11, 2017, 2:33 AM

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Yeah, I thought so too

slate owl Dec 11, 2017, 2:51 AM

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Is dash mandatory to beat the game?

hollow pier Dec 11, 2017, 2:51 AM

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probably

slate owl Dec 11, 2017, 2:51 AM

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In the randomizer

hollow pier Dec 11, 2017, 2:52 AM

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probably not

buoyant wasp Dec 11, 2017, 2:53 AM

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nope

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only thing that is mandetory is claw + (CH || Ismas)

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and dream nail of course

slate owl Dec 11, 2017, 2:54 AM

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Ok.

rain cedar Dec 11, 2017, 2:55 AM

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Shade cloak, spell twister, vengeful spirit, sharp shadow, mantis claw, dream nail is also a winning combo

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Can't forget the meme builds

slate owl Dec 11, 2017, 2:56 AM

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You can reach uumuu with that?

rain cedar Dec 11, 2017, 2:57 AM

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Yes

slate owl Dec 11, 2017, 2:57 AM

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From where?

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Oh, shade cloak just skips it lol

rain cedar Dec 11, 2017, 2:58 AM

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There's a video, give me a sec

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Thanks for the spam

slate owl Dec 11, 2017, 2:58 AM

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I do remember the jump inside the library.

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But not how to get there.

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But theres another path with shade cloak.

rain cedar Dec 11, 2017, 2:58 AM

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Oh it's just the last thing posted in resources

slate owl Dec 11, 2017, 2:58 AM

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Pretty much Ive never used it lol

rain cedar Dec 11, 2017, 2:58 AM

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You can do it with 2 fireballs in each direction

slate owl Dec 11, 2017, 3:45 AM

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https://puu.sh/yDQAF.txt

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Anyone wanna let me know if what I wrote make any sense XD

hazy sentinel Dec 11, 2017, 3:47 AM

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"just completed the game"

buoyant obsidian Dec 11, 2017, 3:48 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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"there is"

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= "there are"

hazy sentinel Dec 11, 2017, 3:48 AM

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"Green Path"

buoyant obsidian Dec 11, 2017, 3:48 AM

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📎 unknown.png